The Final Five Reveal Themselves to Each Other | Battlestar Galactica

[@mkang8782]

I appreciate that it was Chief Tyrol, arguably the most grounded of them, that accepts it first.

[@Onigirli]

Out of all of them I like the little expressions he makes the most, puzzling it out, like at 4:07 onwards

[@Tayvin4042]

In a way, it makes sense. Back in the end of Season 2 he had deep-seated fears that he was an unknowing Cylon hence the nightmares he was having. It could've been his subconscious telling him what he was from the beginning. So, having to grapple with this for longer then the others, it makes sense he'd be the first to accept, or at least come closer to accepting it then the others.

[@ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo]

​@@Tayvin4042and Cavil, the one who put the 5 in the colonies, telling him he wasn't because he goes to the meetings and he never sees him there.

[@ebcbr1791]

They drop the most hints about Chief.

[@metalzonemt-2]

@@ebcbr1791I think the woman whatever her name is, was the most obvious. She all of a sudden appeared out of nowhere, and I said to myself, she's a Cylon.

[@molluskweddin]

You cut it before Tigh's speech! One of my favorite lines in the whole series: "My name is Saul Tigh. I'm an officer in the Colonial Fleet. Whatever else I am, whatever else it means, that's the man I want to be. And if I die today, that's the man I'll be."

[@WMMASceneNow]

One of the best lines of the series, for sure

[@brandonwallace1725]

So Say We All

[@hondansx1000]

hands down one of the best scenes in this entire show. Bear McCreary's music was absolutely fantastic.

[@bobbwc7011]

Don't be ridiculous. This entire plotline and the story were utter trash. Complete low quality writing, nonsense, plotholes as big as the Titantic's iceberg.

[@veebee3927]

@@bobbwc7011 lol it has a 94% audience score on rotten tomatoes. It's one of the highest rated series of all time.

[@ryans413]

@@bobbwc7011what are you talking about you may not like the show but the writing was excellent.

[@bobbwc7011]

@@ryans413 lol the writing and dialogue was mostly trash

[@ryans413]

@@bobbwc7011 your opinion I guess

[@Numtalegau]

_Deadbolt that FRAKKING DOOR!_ Saul Tigh is such an amazing character and Michael Hogan does an outstanding job portaying him.

[@lalaithan]

Apparently the frustration was real, Hogan was pissed to learn his character was a Cylon. lol

[@rebuildingrob3375]

I liked his WO-OH when he walked in the room.

[@vandergod]

I still listen to Bear’s version of “All Along the Watchtower”. It brings back the power and awe from the first time I saw this show and particularly this part. Truly a masterpiece!

[@odiedodieuk]

I appreciate wander my friends much more

[@LabradorIndependent]

Incorporating All Along The Watchtower not only into the soundtrack but the _story_ shouldn't have worked, but it worked *so well*

[@SierraSierraFoxtrot]

"What about Ellen?" Great writing and a great delivery.

[@charlesdavis545]

"Ellen; you're the 5th" after discovering Earth.

[@chadmorehart7511]

This is the best show of any genre I have ever seen!!! And this scene in particular is one of the best if not the best I have ever seen in any show!!! 20+ years later and no other show comes close to this work of art!

[@jamesmaybrick2001]

Meh. It was ok. I can think of plenty better. /laughs in Sopranos.

[@ryans413]

@@jamesmaybrick2001 probably best sci fi show of its time from 2003 to 2009

[@trossk]

Would be if they actually had any robots instead of cyborgs

[@cameroncunningham204]

"Along the Watchtower" was an absolutely masterful choice o a song for this scene!

[@ianh2950]

love Tigh's reaction at 3:25

[@multitudeofidols]

I remember watching this live when it first originally broadcast. I had the closed captions on (couldn't turn it off) and at the 2:33 point it read "♪ [All Along the Watchtower] ♪". I didn't know what was going on, but it felt so monumental.

[@andrewhillier3356]

My gods the absolute goosebumps this just gave me after all these years is unreal!

[@mourad505]

It just struck me that a major hint to the identity of two of the final five was dropped in the very first episode, "33". While everyone in the fleet was suffering fatigue from lack of sleep, Starbuck made a joke about Sharon not showing any signs of fatigue "because she's a Cylon." I revisited the first episode recently and noticed two other members of Galactica's crew who showed no signs of fatigue: Tigh and Tyrol.

[@lizzies4964]

I noticed that too on my rewatch! Adama is exhausted and Tigh takes his shifts for him. It's subtle but it seems like Tigh just isn't as tired. Even though the cylons weren't planned from day one, it's cool how things like that end up landing so well.

[@gbrown932]

Tigh was tired though. I just watched it.

[@brucewaite3733]

Tigh definitely had the "I'm too ornery to die" vine

[@OldTexasRonin]

It's just a great coincidence that Tigh and Tyrol had those behaviors in "33". Executive Produer/Showrunner for BSG, Ronald D. Moore, said in his podcast for this episode that the writing team actually didn't have a plan for who the Final Five were going to be until they were preparing to write this episode. They had an extended debate about whether Tigh should be a Cylon. They actually didn't even have a concept of the Final Five when this show started. Ronald D. Moore didn't have a plan laid out for the entire series, he admits that they made stuff up as they went along and sometimes found that they had written themselves into a corner that they had to be creative to get out of. Moore likes the impromptu nature of writing on the fly. It is very much worth listening to Moore's podcasts for BSG episodes. He talks about a lot of ideas that never materialized... like an idea for Dirk Benedict to appear to Baltar and say "Hello. I'm God."

[@EmiliusReturns]

One of the best episodes of one of the best shows ever made. Hands down.

[@flyingthebuttress]

Every time I watch this series I still feel shocked at this moment, even though I obviously know its coming and who they are.

[@matthiasfejes3885]

One of the best moments in TV history for sure.

[@gbrown932]

I would argue Rita's death in dexter is more prominent.

[@SheldonAdama17]

Anders bears an uncanny resemblance to Sheppard from Stargate Atlantis

[@starmaster191]

This. Always thought this.

[@tammymartinez7488]

I don’t see any resemblance to Joe Flanagan but he played a dark lighter in an episode of charmed. He was good villain in that episode.

[@johnsondadj]

Still terrific with the four, even though the fifth is revealed later.

[@briangriffiths114]

My favourite sci-fi series of all time.

[@TonyBurgess1969]

This is a totally badass moment.

[@PraetorPaktu]

This ending was insane the first time i saw it.

[@ryans413]

Starbuck returns that blew my mind as well

[@SuperLuminalElf]

BEST Dramatic Science Fiction Series *ever* MADE. BAAM!!

[@bobbwc7011]

Bullshit. This was a ridiculous, badly written soap opera. This final five nonsense broke the entire plot, made 0 sense whatsoever. Moore was a liar and he was incompetent; he promised a show he was not able to deliver due to his limited Star Trek writing skills. BSG was not well received during his airing, at least not after season 5. It was just a giant turd. Only dull and dumb fanboys liked it, the majority hated it for being so low quality and retarded.

[@kaiv3rse_edits]

Saul going “WOAAAHH” when he walked in was so funny to me

[@Beef1188]

This probably goes down as one of the most demented mindfucks in movie history!

[@somebuddyX]

Listening to RDM's old podcast of Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down today it was funny hearing him go into extreme detail on Tigh's combat history in the Cylon War when you compare it to what we find out later.

[@danaeworms]

First, sorry for my english ^^" I've begun the show "Lucifer", in the first episode, second saison, Lucifer was playing "all along the Watchtower", guess who arrived just after ? Tricia Helfer's character, aka Caprica 6. ^^

[@ManyvanhKeovongsa]

I like how Ander was like we all fraking colons

[@charlesdavis545]

Cylons. Tor i in disbelief; "this is not happening"

[@tammymartinez7488]

I wonder if the actor who played Billy didn’t leave the show if he was going to be a cylon in the girls place.

[@darthnowlan]

Possibly.

[@charlesray9674]

Then Bob Dylan comes in....

[@michaelnolan6054]

You know that there's an outtake of someone saying, "I prefer the Dylan version."

[@chrispalmer3330]

I loved the show, I just thought the choices they made for the final 5 were odd.

[@charlesdavis545]

I'm intrigued; why, and who would your choices have been?

[@jonathanreynolds1797]

@@charlesdavis545why did they have to be known at all?

[@charlesdavis545]

@@jonathanreynolds1797good question

[@daywalker6321]

Too much confusion

[@Onigirli]

This isn't happening

[@KRAU5555]

It was amazing

[@troy8613]

This is where to show started have issues imo. Making all regulars cylons was a bit stupid. They should have had flashback episodes with president Adar and had him be one along with some other politicians and perhaps have 1 or 2 regulars as cyclone. Making Saul Tigh a cylon was ridiculous along with his wife.

[@KNS1996DFS]

I wonder how they chose these four in particular. Did they draw their names out of a hat? Making Saul and Ellen Cylons stripped away the tragedy of her death. The writers took so many wrong turns in the third and fourth seasons, none worse than this.

[@mucknstrunz]

so who was number 5?

[@odiedodieuk]

It never felt as though this was the plan from the start. So did they age like human when they were left in the colonies?

[@jackdavinci]

Yes, when Tigh tells Adama he doesn't believe him at first because he watched him age. But it's implied because they are the original five they work slightly differently

[@qontoh2s872]

I see four Cylons... Not five.

[@charlesdavis545]

They didn't know Ellen was the fifth yet. Tye realizes it after they visit the original Earth, and they begin to remember what happened there. Tigh and Ellen, in their earlier life, were caught in a war that broke out between the 13th tribe cylons and their robotic Cylon creations. As she lay dying in the rubble, much like when we were first introduced to her, Ellen said to Tigh "Don't worry, we'll be reborn"

[@mickk8519]

Final five? There was only four of them here!

[@eze417]

I counted only four.

[@harrisonchr]

Isn't there only four there? How is that the final five?

[@sanitizerwilson1599]

The Person wake up later??.

[@miguelmolinasalta]

@@sanitizerwilson1599positive

[@expatinthailand9824]

Final five? Only saw four.

[@MySamurai77]

Why is Jimi Hendrix in the Universe of this show? It makes no sense. Do they ever explain how someone 1000's of lights years away heard Hendrix? ( or Bob Dylan)

[@da_funkknight]

IIRC the idea being that there are somethings in the universe that are just timeless. Just like humanity creating robots who destroyed them over and over this song is continuously recreated over time.

[@MySamurai77]

@@da_funkknight That seems about right. It's a lame idea for the show if you ask me but at least it makes some stupid sense now.

[@formdissolve]

Talk about frakkin' spoilers!

[@mkv2718]

For a 15 year old show?? get over it 🙄

[@sanitizerwilson1599]

I wish that Billy was around I like him and Black female officer together.

[@ChaoticBattleCamel]

Sadly Paul Campbell let fame get to his head and left for other projects that turned out to be duds.

[@charlesdavis545]

The guy who played Billy wanted more money to come back, so they said no.

[@sanitizerwilson1599]

@@charlesdavis545 Oh really thanks! for infor

[@bennyhill5938]

there's only 4 there why has nobody else noticed that?

[@Zreen001]

Because the fifth is being held hostage by Cavil at this point. She likely would have joined them if she were there. And the conversation might've been... interesting. Unless, of course, the activation for the four to arrive in that room only accounted for unawakened cylons and since the fifth was already awakened after New Caprica she may not have joined them in the room at all.

[@sallysue8176]

I loved BSG but I couldn’t take or understand these 5 being cylons

[@JC57515]

I dont get it, i never got it, but its still amazing

[@ducksoup2007]

BSG a time less classic

[@Limited_Light]

Ummm, 4 of the 5.

[@mph8er]

"What about Ellen." It was hiding in plain sight.

[@mjsolomon5427]

@@mph8er Ellen is the fifth cylon, but she's dead?

[@leilaniz5909]

​@mjsolomon5427 plus, in like season 2 or so, gaius gave her the Cylon test and she tested human.

[@QuicksilverSG]

@@leilaniz5909 - Baltar's Cylon detector never had a chance of working, and he knew it was BS all along.

[@sanitizerwilson1599]

@@leilaniz5909 They were more advance!!! so they pass as humans

[@kursk_kuku141]

Among Us…

[@michaelkenny7314]

And when Tigh walks into the room. It was at this moment you can tell free cocanie was given out in the writers room. Too this day Tigh of all people day It still makes as much sense As Adama cyclon. The man faught in the frist war what the hell? Now if it was Gaeta I'd buy that.

[@hazeleyees]

I hated Tori

[@charlesdavis545]

She wa fine until Cali deiscovered she was a Cylon. She got hers in the end; Tyrol strangle her when they linked and he found out.

[@hazeleyees]

@@charlesdavis545 yeah that was fantastic!

[@highdough2712]

To me, this is when the series went completely off the rails. Both in story and tone. I mean, they were singing a Jimmy Hendrix song. That was just dumb.

[@charlesdavis545]

Actually, it was brilliant if you were a true fan.

[@zyzzyz7035]

Final Five. Total dud.

[@Leadbetter500]

I think this story arc is what killed the show for me.

[@nerdock4747]

"There was a song that played from a nebula that went in my head and told me I'm a robot." A phenomenally stupid idea performed *so* excellently that it appeared good.

[@davidg.9561]

This and the whole Starbuck returning as an angel thing. BSG goes down for me as one of those shows, like Lost and Westworld, that had an absolutely incredible start but devolved into an incoherent mess.

[@Leadbetter500]

@@nerdock4747 I completely agree. I am really shocked that the many years that have gone by, there are still fans who don't see this as a problem. Despite all new, popular productions avoiding such terrible plot twists

[@usul573]

@@Leadbetter500 Science fiction lets you tell stories about identity, loyalty, decisions, life and death in different ways. Yes the final five and Starbuck storylines are a little silly, but I never had a problem with it. It's divisive, some people might never accept it and if it's true then Starbuck exploding is the point of no return for you but I'd still say a lot of the show is quite good if you can roll with it. Millions of people believe in fate, angels, reincarnation, etc etc.

[@Tim_Climie]

45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour. 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My Son; my Scion;- why hast thou forsaken me? 47 Some of them that stood there, when they heard that, said, This man calleth for Elias. *BOLLOCKS*

[@miguelmolinasalta]

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