The First Descendant | My Thoughts on Season 2 So Far

[@BasedBrave]

I can’t help but feel like that the majority of the players just feel so entitled and impatient when it comes to the grind. They forget what type of game they are playing which in turn makes them feel discouraged to grind. I believe some players just need to change their attitude

[@ThomasStanUnidentified]

I agree..I love the grind, when I first started and saw someone with an Enduring Legacy or Secret Garden maxed out I knew they earned it and I was stoked when I finally did mine.

[@K0ntaminatedS00Sh3]

A lot of players do not realize how much easier it is to farm in TFD now compared to day one. It wasn't too long ago where outposts had a 5 minute cooldown, needed an AFK bunny in a cave to farm levels/weapon proficiency, and do a void fragment 2 or 3 times only to run a void reactor once to open an amorphous material. By any means, the grind isn't perfect and there is still so much to improve on, but these complaints I am hearing about the grind being cumbersome leads me to believe they are not being efficient or like you said, they feel entitled which is evident when players leave a special OP when there isn't a Freyna or Bunny do all the work

[@BasedBrave]

@ I have 2 jobs and still have everything single thing in the game all weapons rank 4. All characters. I even farm titles now. I only hope the game can become more difficult, with the new elevator type mission and leaderboards coming soon it should shake things up

[@ForeignFabric]

It took me three days to farm both the dog and key . I didn’t expect that, but for over four hours, I only managed to get gold from every run. That’s so discouraging that I had to take a break.

[@BasedBrave]

@ I can say the same thing happened to me the only difference is I don’t expect to get everything in a manner of hours or a day or two. I have enough materials to build the dog and keelan 5 times over. I actually play the game regardless of having everything. Now I’m prepping for future content…I’m building more fellow materials so I don’t have to grind later on and even more things. That’s what looter shooters consist of. A massive determination to grind and get the things you want. Players have their issues with the game confused with FOMO. It’s not if you can can get something it’s when…you are in fact guaranteed to get anything you want in the game…you just have to…play…the game….and in todays gaming space…no one wants to play games anymore. They want everything handed to them

[@GoriborthGaming]

Void vessel is great platform to build on, just gives a taste of whats to come. And the devs do listen, i love the fact we can dye even default skins and also on weapons now. Dye system itself needs improvement, though i dont mind supporting product that has this much potential and has improved so much in what 5-6 months.

[@blacksage81]

I like the theme of the season, I like void vessel, but I think that there should have been two dungeons with the rotating tileset, or one dungeon and a sort of quest hub in a Void Vessel secured by hound.

[@ucminhpham5886]

so far in my opinion season2 is a massive improvement compare to season 1 mess up...lots of quality of life changes

[@Comeback180]

The issue is them balancing how quickly or slow players receive the content. If they don't get that balance right 1 side is gonna feel it takes too long to get it, if its too fast players are gonna get bored and leave. I agree there needs to be a variety of ways to get new content. If they were to make it where u get the materials halfway through the dungeon, the complaints of people quitting would skyrocket. Some people would go into public, get the materials, quit the match and ruin other people's experiences.

[@teqnninja5463]

for realll the content is so slow

[@kaiju4240]

All we need is more content: -Endless dungeon -More randomized tile dungeon -Warframe relic reward system: it would improve colossi co-op. Would give a reason for ppl to help each other. -Player trade (hopefully soon) with this they need to start vaulting ultimate too. Other than that RNG has already been solved thru pity system.

[@lsconfire8955]

The boring thing about the first descendant is the fact that the only thing you can do is grind. The process to grinding is the most uninteresting thing ever if they were to make more interesting enemies designs and gameplay loops seen from other games I think most definitely it would be fun. They have cut down the time it takes to farm by a ton and i think its no longer special to have an ultimate descendant/weapon it takes longer to research an ultimate than it takes to farm them In short the first descendant should take many things seen in other games and implement it into their game. Lastly we need a new region one preferably lively and not an empty ai generated landscape.

[@Phillipmurr]

That’s one thing that turns me off and the game. The world feels is generic, like is made an Unreal 5 assets.

[@m00nyoze]

Just started playing TFD and I'm glad to hear about the QOL fixes since last season. I'm enjoying the game atm and love this Christmas event log in stuff. As a new player I have so much kuiper and gold that I can easily upgrade a few mods here and there. This is the time to start playing! I have five descendants in my roster and will be trying Sharen tonight and Valby tomorrow. I don't know what the battle pass looked like last season, but season 2 seems pretty worth it considering the reward track gives you 300 caliber. It's a no brainer for me. I don't mind giving ten dollars to a free game but my god those skins and monthly packs are outrageously overpriced!

[@varsinzo4844]

The game definitely needs more content and theres plenty of room for improvement but I think it's going in the right direction. The devs are listening and improving the game, personally I don't care for the male descendant but while I was farming dood for my dog I was able to unlock him, I got 2 pieces of Ultimate Sharen and I might get her, however the thing im starting to really hate, and the thing that I consider its the worst part of the game is reactor farming, I have over 700 hours in the game and I still haven't got a single golden reactor with 2 good golden stats that is useful. Even with the recent changes wich didn't fix anything since Im getting dimensional and non atribute on singular reactors. Anyway I really like the First Descendant and I think it needs a little longer to be in great shape.

[@ripvision]

The major thing S2 did was help reduce the grind with the shape stabilizers that switch the order of the drop rates. And they added in the new pity system which also works in void vessel. Also amorphous materials that drop from outposts now drop from dungeons too. AND the new support system for public non 400 percent dungeons are great, you get placed in random dungeons with other players but you keep all the rewards from the original dungeon you picked.

[@shrevident91]

It took me over 50 runs of Void Vessel to get all of the Fellow stuff. I only know it was more than 50 because I completed the battle pass challenge for doing it 50 times. I had Keelan fully done way before I finished the Fellow. FULLY DONE. All the pieces and all of the research done. The part that made it the most miserable was that I had all 3 out of 4 of the Fellow pieces 25 runs in. so it took me 25 more runs to get the last piece. And it just kept forcing me to pick Keelan boxes when I already had him done. I almost just bought the damned dog.

[@Papa-Peeps]

Cheers Garren another thought provoking vid. Looking forward to the next. Hope you and your family have a Wonderful Chritmas. 👍👍❤️

[@dazzler6123]

Season 2 is great if you're not getting the game crashing have put in countless tickets for errors codes no reply if they are trying to edge out PS4 users then just come out and say so I would have up 8 crashes only at Albion not in game play it runs fine but that's just me great video thumbs up from Australia

[@gamermike24]

Season 2 isn't fully out yet, I think next month they'll drop a mega dungeon of sorts. One thing I partly agree with are those heavy ion collectors for ult Sharen. I'd probably have her already if they increased them from 7 to 10+

[@passionsv.2]

For new players, they’ve been doing good so far. For players since the beginning of launch, it’s kinda small content but still appreciate how many people like it and how devs react. I mainly just help void but recently noticed too many people leave cause I zoom too quickly with Keel so I drastically slowed the gameplay down and let people catch up

[@Theheartslove]

Am I annoyed that it feels like they are repeating the same mistakes only to make adjustments later? Absolutely. Am I happy that they are willing to make changes when the community complains? Yes, because at least I can say that they listen to the community and makes adjustments reasonably quickly.

[@Chianengmuas]

Void vessel has a little focus farm if you want the dog use keys in 1 box instead of open every boxes same as other operations change that you can enter random dungeons instead of one dungeon

[@falatalane]

I totaly agree. Vessel is long, borring and anoying. When S2 hit, I played 6 Vessel missions and only got gold at the end (I have over 260 milion, so at this point so 100k is totaly useless for me). And its like 17 minutes on average to finish it. I wanted fellow so I bought him with €, to skip vessel completly and I dont cared about Keelan at all. Only to find out that I have to grind vessel over and over to get materials to make fellow any useful. I doubt they will change much, so my dog will never hit max level. Also worst thing about ult Sharen farming for me was not running same dungeon 27 times, but spending 4 days and 55 amorphs opened before I got her code. And I used 11 advanced shape stabilizers and 15 normal stabilizers. I got totaly trolled by nexon terrible rng on that one, as 90% of people got her code after 2 amorphs.

[@herbertcoxe3601]

I wanted to play 1999 but when I got on they said to go play the duviri paradox… yeah no. That quest is trash and boring as hell I’d rather sleep on burning hot glass than play it lol but I have to now. It’s like when you find the perfect girl but her annoying friends and family are part of the deal 🙄

[@Phillipmurr]

Duviri was where I quit. Nothing will convince me the only reason its was made. Was to create assets for soul fame. Which will 100% flop cause the fantasy mmo is over bloated..

[@S1NT0VA]

As someone that slaved getting Sharen pieces I now realized the reason it felt so easy getting her pieces day one was due to the fact the real grind was the heavy ion, probably the most annoying thing about that grind but I was able to unlock her despite the pain of the heavy ion

[@blastie89]

On 12th December hotfix they added the random infiltration matchmaking option which made grinding those heavy ions more bearable as you're not forced to play the same boring dungeon for all the 27 runs needed for Ult Sharen.

[@S1NT0VA]

@@blastie89yea I’m glad they did that cause people definitely would’ve been telling them to do it if it never got a hotfix

[@RIZZDEE-TEE-S]

they should have made 2 or 3 different void vessel missions so it don't get boring

[@lanelesic]

I like the dog, the performance fixes, new stuff, reactor improvements, new colossus and the skin. But man is the void vessel a huge miss for me. The 3 things I despise the most 1. lasers 2. grapple hook parkour 3. being forced to slowdown and break the flow of the dungeon to look for the things and pressing E on them on PC is not smooth, like the interaction proximity is not sharp Like after playing almost every day since August and 840 hours I am more than burned out. Dog kinda also showed me, with the merchant, that this game needed those from the very beginning.

[@dontbejay]

All infiltration missions need to give the same XP in Hard mode. Then I won't have to run Fortress's every time to quickly lvl stuff up

[@mocuishle6116]

36* pieces for each Haillee part ;)

[@jackzanetti6235]

Thank you, I thought I was the only one. Also don't forget you have to go back in there for the dog food as well and that's probably an even longer and more tedious grind. And as you said the grind is not the issue as much as having to be forced into that void vessel continuously

[@Jett125]

Agree. The fellow grind is the dumbest thing ever. Why grind the fellow? Cause you want the automatic reactor and external component filtering. What you gunna get when you grind? Tons of that shit. Locking a QOL feature behind a grind is a great way to put off a new player. I nearly quit. It's so dumb. And worse, the stupid dog doesn't work properly! It filters fine but sometimes it's just like nah, I'm good. I don't feel like filtering right now. What!?

[@varsinzo4844]

The dog works fine, the "problem" is that the dog dismantle feature has a "cooldown" thats related to your fellow level, same with the range. At low level your fellow wont go far to get the loot and it will take more time to dismantle the loot. And also fellow doesn't "work" when hes on Albion, he rests there and wont dismantle anything.

[@Jett125]

@varsinzo4844 yeah exactly. It's so badly designed. Just make it work all the time. The features this dog has should just be a standard part of the game.

[@blastie89]

@@varsinzo4844 Dismantling happens every time you start a dungeon, i think they made this change in the last hotfix.

[@thesorrow7499]

You hit the nail on the head. There is a clear pattern of developers messing up and fixing the issue the next day. Instead of creating more cool skins to sell to us, they use shady tactics like that. Highly disrespectful.

[@y_strikes2770]

L take. Grinding in a free game for loot? Complaining all new parts are in the same location rather han in 10 different locations? Be grateful you can farm these things at all. Don't like it? Buy it, no grind in this FREE game

[@da_001]

Koreans love farmin, which means going 1 task on repeat which is boring to everyone else but then. Very shortsighted devs.

[@kingcurmudgeon8685]

Warframe works exactly the same. Some farming is actually worse in warframe. Is it a Canadian thing too?

[@coolman123646]

You hit the nail right on the head, I'm about 200 hours in on TFD and all the repeat content is sooooo boring, I don't really want to keep running the same 3 missions to get whatever I am farming for guess ill come back in season 3.

[@nanna1102nanna]

they patched it already. it is wayyy easier now to get both fellow and Keelan. on this note before the patch it took me around 10-15 hours total play to get both... thats roughly 2 hours pr day... just make up your mind what you want to grind for pr day and it is really easy to get them. Devs are very fast to make changes when we ask for it... so i have to disagree with you sir. I like how the game is atm as i am also a believer in that we should not just get everything handed to us without any work put into to it.

[@kingcurmudgeon8685]

I only have two real gripes. The battle Pass is still pretty bad and I find the game is still poorly optimized. They are improving greatly for 6 months in. The Descendants are becoming more and more fun. Probably the best looter shooter out there nown

[@bobmalarkey4621]

TFD is a game where you can play for 3-8 hours a day and never accomplish or progress towards anything. What makes it even worse is that co-op play has been basically eradicated from the game because of the characters being reworked into all being AOE nukers, and the fact that nothing in the game takes more than 45 seconds to complete. I think people misunderstand why some of us are complaining about the grind. Yes, we know we're playing a looter shooter, but there has to be some rhyme and rhythm to the grind. There needs to be a balance between materials, time spent, and variety of options for places to grind. There are many upon many players just complaining about grinding for the sake of it because they don't understand the genre, but you can spot those people a mile away. As I started this comment with, there's no feeling of reward vs time invested in TFD because everything is so wrapped up in this triple tier RNG system that they've incorporated into every aspect of the game. Second is the fact that there are only a few viable options in characters to use and places to grind. I personally find myself switching between Bunny and Freyna, running the same 4 activities until I'm so bored that I question my life choices by the time that I've ran a mission or fought a Colossus for the 17th time in a row within an hour or less, and still needing to play another 36 total hours just to get enough materials for the new reactor upgrade system. Sure, season 2 has been way better than 1 in a few regards, but my god has it been the most boring, tedious and monotonous thing from a videogame that I've ever played, and I'm a 10k hours played Warframe vet! TFD is still too tied to the typical Korean game design systems for it to ever be a good solid game. This includes the predatory monetization from Nexon. $75 for a skin?! Gimme a break. $20 for an energy reactor?! F* off with that. TFD is the new generation of gaming, where Asian developers and publishers rip off existing IPs, provide little to no playable content, and fill the empty spaces with boobs, microtransactions, and mind numbingly excessive repetitive grind. It's typical mobile gaming from the CoC era 10-15 years ago.

[@kaiju4240]

I just wanna say...Even the best relic farm take less than a min in WF. Most mission take less than 5 min in WF. Everyone brings a nuke frame in WF. Warframe has the same issue as TFD just the same mode u play on repeat. I've already max the hex bout little less than 2 weeks? And as a vet in WF I only do 5 things: -Level cap omni void cascade -EDA -Archon hunt -SP circuit -three same missions to farm relics

[@myfam1208]

Wow people still talking about the grind after they toned it down a lot I used to have an issue with the grinding after they made it the way it is now I've gotten so many things I've even finally gotten certain mods that I've given up on trying to get I got them after they made the changes

[@ThomasStanUnidentified]

Im having fun with the new season and Ive played a little bit slower than most. The void vessels are a blast when you get a good group but damn they need to gate some of this content..The Spec Ops are littered with Noobs and I hate saying that. I also believe the loot should be better after killing a Calluses..The Reactors suck and the components are trash lol

[@push101]

😂😂😂 maybe if one would focus on tfd instead of playing other stuff you would have the dog the keylan and the ult Sharen plus the shotgun 😂😂😂 maxed out

[@nunya2400]

QQ

[@eltreum1]

Season 2 has brought a lot of improvements, and their plans sounds interesting. No, they are not sabotaging their game to play hero. The big issue with TFD stems from a language and cultural one involving style norms. Asian f2p grindy games and gatcha games with extreme RNG or gambling loot boxes is common because gambling addiction is a huge issue with plenty of willing suppliers of the fix. The boss ball gimmick is a trope as overplayed as yellow paint and telegraphed boss fights. Western markets look down on gambling more as well as p2w but still want instant gratification or at least a consistent payout per unit of effort invested and quickly tire of gimmicks. The devs interactions with the bulk of their users has to rely on translations that are at times iffy but the devs seem to be starting to understand and admitted they misjudged the situation and have acted on promises so far to address it. A cool as Warframe is now when it started it was worse than TFD and people wondered if it would last and managed to turn things around. They were going to go out of business if they didn't, so they had a strong motivation to do so. Farming Enduring Legacy 5 times to max build it out burned me out for a couple weeks and the stuff requiring Enzo and Sharon to farm was silly. They have added and changed those things quite a bit and shower you in catalyst materials in Void Vessel. I was able to build out the 40 catalyst BPs I was sitting on because I didn't want to farm them on accident playing Void Vessel. I got Keelan, the dog almost at max level and 2 upgraded reactors without 'farming' hard for them. I still don't have the run void vessel 100 times achievement yet. I think it was only 6-8 hours on a weekend I got the dog and Keelan solo but used the target reward system to guarantee the parts dropped. Enduring Legacy said and done was around 200 dungeon runs and 90-ish Colossus fights that also built 3 descendants and other weapons on accident in the process. My buddy started a week or so before S2 and has hard mode open and his third EL in the cooker in a fraction of time using 250%-400% dungeon rewards and those new stabilizers. He only has to build 4 since they gave everyone a free one and free Gregs Reversed Fate for the holiday event as well as Ultimate Bunny. The game is starting to be viable if you want to do the f2p loop and not spend money sans the flashy skins. I'm going to let things ride through season 3 to see if they can keep up the momentum and keep improving things. It's the only looter shooter I like atm when I feel like playing them. HD2 and Sony are dead to me. Warhammer looks cool but my hardcore WH friends ruined that game for me long ago. PoE2 looks cool but it's just a better Diablo which I was over with years ago and prefer more immersive FPS games. I have toyed with WF again, but the community has an element that quickly reminds me why I left. In fairness TFD world chat is a toxic mess and unmoderated sans an auto rate limiter and word filter and hurts the new player experience because getting help is laughable. Luckily, I don't need their help to do anything but feel for those that do.

[@zeroxepntance]

Still trash copycat of warframe lmao

[@Strawbunnio]

already maxed out the battlepass, ult sharen and the dog, got keelan but not my playstyle, so I'm just login to do invasion for gold while waiting ines comes out next month.