The First Descendant: Ultimate AJAX, not a HUGE difference!!! (STATS)

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[@joshtrumbly5266]

Spending $100 on 1 character is not smart spending. Its just a video game.

[@moonrivervayonetta]

Big bruh moment that the ultimate pack either the 3 or heck the 5k doesn't come installed "orokin catalyst" to the descendant but separated (I thought you get 2, installed and not installed but nope)

[@GaireDuine]

Thanks for this video

[@robdonegan6749]

If you had them both built out then what do the stats look like then. That would be a better comparison.

[@seriouscomedy936]

1:22 that helmet looks like a warframe volt helmet

[@WideChronos]

The main appeal besides the minor stat boost are the red skill modules that the ultimates have access to. Main problem with that is some of them seems bad and not worthwhile making the ult version less worthwhile

[@michaelschueler6990]

Base models get access to the red mods too. I've got the one that modifies his expulsion ability on my base Ajax

[@WideChronos]

@@michaelschueler6990 there is red modules for base yes. Though there are exclusive reds to ults (ex. ult ajax gets access to red mods life barrier and void barrier, and ult bunny gets electric charge and voltage.) Unfortunately some of the exclusives red just suck like electric charge powering up the bunny double jump slam sounds terrible to me.

[@michaelschueler6990]

@@WideChronos I see, thanks for the info!

[@Escape_society]

@@WideChronosit’s actually good with the right build

[@PeaceDeliverer]

I'm using red mod on my non ultimate AJAX

[@MikeyBoi-1738]

Just farm for the ultimate Ajax it be a bit of a grind but your eventually get it I’m a Ajax main but he looks good default 🤣👌🏽

[@pixelhobo]

There are 2 Transcendent mods that are only for Ultimate Ajax, base Ajax cannot use these.

[@Torch327]

You said in the video you have the same external components on due to not being able to remove them. You actually can unequip them to see what the base stats are. The ONLY thing you can't unequip is the reactor

[@teamhebi13]

i might just farm for him i don't mind spending but damn

[@mirrorlegend2482]

Oh. So on Basic view the Ultimates are like Primed Warframes. Like Rhino = Prime Rhino Excalibur = Prime Excalibur. Neat. Nice Motivation to look Forward. Stopped after a few years of warframe. To much Stuff to get and unattainable due to Vaulting of Primes and other Frames etc.

[@jacksonmcload4157]

Ok so the same as primes in warfrframe. Thanks for this man i was wondering what the difference betwen the 2 was. And just like rhino and frost prime ajax might be the only decedent whos ultimate version is worth it.

[@gloggare]

think ill get a 3-4 pack or chars ........but at the same time every ''standard'' is a sub par ulti.. and if you plan on swapping to ulti from farming it you Lose all the time and resources you put in to the normal one.

[@MoRaXSCV]

The whole purpose of ultimate characters is that they can equipe trancended modules which can only be equiped by the ultimate version....

[@Zer0xLegendZ]

Ehmm no, u can use every module on normal chars, the only thing the ultimate version give is litte bit of starts and 2 half mod places

[@MajeedBelle]

​@@Zer0xLegendZ go to the access info section and educate yourself. There are in fact mods only equipable by ultimate versions. Bunny has one

[@Zer0xLegendZ]

@@MajeedBelle u mean the red ultimate mods?

[@WideChronos]

​@Zer0xLegendZ yep there are red skill modules dedicated to the ultimate versions. Problem is some of them like the 2 from ult bunny doesn't seem any good to use

[@Zer0xLegendZ]

@@WideChronos strange i got all beside one bunny ulti module and can use them all on normal🫣

[@melvinfeenstra7037]

is the ultimate already maxed cap on modules? like the energy activated?

[@lordsofgaming2930]

@@melvinfeenstra7037 no you still need to upgrade mod sub type, and energy activator

[@davidhujik3422]

@@lordsofgaming2930 the ultimate version does he still need to use skills 3 times to get powered skill. Or?

[@hoseaesp6309]

the ultimate ajax hard to farm?

[@nanozyla]

On hard more, the amorf farm for ultimate is easier

[@jayc9502]

Very hard to farm

[@BhatiHmmFishGuy]

Depends if your get blessed by rngesus or not

[@shiestyshyne2224]

Absolutely not worth it, you’re paying to basically have immensely more defense with 2 extra mod sockets and a beefed up skin? Hellll to the naw naw

[@victorb62]

So I'm basically better off purchasing Kyle then?

[@Rexizam]

Main Kyle here. As I have both of them, Kyle deffinetly excels in more "into the fray" type of play, but there are many options where solo you will be overwhelmed and Ajax excels there. From personal experience with both - Ajax is kyle, but does everything better type of hero.

[@victorb62]

@@Rexizam ahhhh gotcha

[@mattantXD]

@@Rexizam Who does everything better?

[@Rexizam]

@@mattantXD Ajax, simply better performing in all scenarios, Kyle lacklusts. However I still have two bosses left on hard mode, but from my experience with both for almost 100h I preferred Ajax, even when Kyle seems to be more fun to be played, in some scenarios I get overwhelmed, especially defending, both have barriers but with one you can keep shooting(Ajax) and he is better team wise.

[@mattantXD]

@@Rexizam Thanks, I needed to read this :) But Kyle can use his ult to hit bosses for a mil no?

[@jaydubz5348]

dam, seeing the stats comparison with that huge amount of grind and how expensive it is with how little of a difference the characters have is a real big turn off. im well into hard bosses and now seeing this. i think im already done with the game. almost 100 canadian for this? just makes me want to go back to warframe even more. much more value there. thanks for the video

[@noden1739]

So because the game isn't perfect at launch you are done with it? Lol have you played warframe from launch cuz thay took a long time before it became popular 🤣

[@Rafalga84]

@@noden1739 "warframe at launch" is not an excuse. Also First decendant is not made by some indie studio with 5 people. Nexon is by no means a small company. They obviously took things from warframe but left out all the consumer friendly things behind. Also a kindly reminder that Nexon got fined 9 MILLION dollars 5 months ago because they lied about their lootbox drop chances. Some items literally had ZERO chance to drop for like a year and they got caught. So think twice before defending a corpo like a fucking drone.

[@XerXxezs]

@@noden1739 warframe is popular lol ?

[@noden1739]

@@XerXxezs way more than it was in the first couple years ya lol

[@jaydubz5348]

@noden1739 I did play at launch, that's how I got half my frames, the community was much better, we all helped eachother grind, everyone was friendly I thought it was great. If TFD devs lower their prices and actually boost the stat differences that would help. But apparently they have a horrible track record with such things. Also like I said I'm, pretty much done anyway until further content at least

[@afrosenpai7478]

I pay cause i dont have the time to play so much. I bought ajax ultimate 3k, basically you get a finished Descendant when it comes to the mod slots. So hopefully that curbs some of the grinding time so i can play with the bois more often. Tbh tho i spend like 70 here and i got one ultimate with 950 primo currency left over and i put about 70 on warframe and ive already traded for a ton of maxed mods and quite a few frames and prime(ultimate equivalent) frames and gun blueprints. And a year later i still have over 2k premium currency from that same purchase. The value i have off Warframe was insane compared to TFD. I hope they get a free market.

[@lordsofgaming2930]

i can understand that matter of convenience

[@thirtysilver33]

But the difference is, warframe sucks, that's why we're playing this. ;)

[@afrosenpai7478]

@@thirtysilver33 Were all playing it cause it's the new looter shooter game.

[@Atychiphobe]

A finished descendant? Lol it has like 2 free completed module slots… out of 12.

[@luthedamar3043]

Only thing I would still want to check here is their skill damage and range to see if there were any differences. Good video though!

[@lordsofgaming2930]

no change on skill damage or range. im doing a final vid on Ajax now that I have completed his build soon.

[@luthedamar3043]

@@lordsofgaming2930 Thank you! I'm halfway to grinding out Ultimate Ajax now.

[@luthedamar3043]

@lordsofgaming2930 Heys, finally got Ultimate Ajax! Going back to my question, I just checked the differences with skills between basic Ajax and Ultimate Ajax. There is a difference with their skills duration and damage numbers! Just thought you would want to know for your video! Still loved this video, keep up the great content! ^.^

[@eliezerrosado1577]

​@@luthedamar3043hey man, what would you say is the best way to farm ultimate ajax? It's taking way too long for me and wanna see if you have any tips

[@luthedamar3043]

@eliezerrosado1577 I don't know if it's best or faster, it took me 4 days to grind out Ultimate Ajax, but what I did: There's 4 pieces, track all 4 in your access menu. Then you have 4 ways to get each piece. I just chose the way that I found the least tedious or others were there grinding the same pattern. Once I got 5 patterns, I would open them. Once I got one of the 4 pieces, I would take it off of my Access Tracking Menu. That's what I did at least. The grind is real no? :p

[@anonymouswv101]

Yeah dont buy the ultimate bundles if anything figure its up yo you if 50 bucks is worth the skin they get. I plan on getting ult ajax skin but its not for everyone just a preference 😊

[@gmdoni3000]

Ty

[@PeaceDeliverer]

Makes no sense getting ultimate, specially that I equipped two extra polarized slots and used energy activator.. wow that 👎

[@ProdigaliNKGaming]

Sorry man but there is a huge difference in stats in the end game. The module and equipment % modifiers amplify the base stats drastically. Bigger base stats = bigger multiplicative gains

[@lordsofgaming2930]

@ProdigaliNKGaming I think that's understood. We aren't talking about your equipment and mod effects. We are talking about what you are base paying for; 2 polarization slots, 1200-1500 DEF modifier and a skin. You can add polarity to Base Ajax so you are only getting an acceleration on those, so the only difference at max 40 without mods and equip effects to stats is the 1200-1500 DEF. Endgame everyones will look different. You do not have bigger base stats on skills or your descendant other than the DEF stat.

[@syfodiaz4936]

Sounds like someone paid for Ultimate Ajax!

[@unlimitedbeno6276]

This game a scam

[@GoblinVonStickerButt]

Why? In Warframe it’s the exact same

[@KC-rn3bd]

It may seem that way,, but if you play it...its still an experience . don't have to pay for noffin

[@lordsofgaming2930]

It IS NOT the exact same. I don't believe the game is a scam, but the value of the monetization are ENTIRELY different

[@Rafalga84]

Well the studio (Nexon) fined to pay 9 million dollars just recently for lying and fixing drop rates of lootboxes in MapleStory. They were doing it since the start and Korean fucking goverment had to step in. They literally hold several patents for actively fucking around with drop rates (like longer you play, smaller the drop chances). No idea how anyone can trust these scum.

[@taoday118]

Not a scam because nobody puts a gun on your head that you have to buy anything to play

[@rabb1tdotcom-ie3vk]

Except the shop and prices are in the Asian market which is WAY more used to paying for free to play things. The US impact by not buying the ultimate things likely will be a tiny portion of the purchases. Sure, I personally won't be paying for 'power items', maybe just some cosmetics if I play the game enough, but really, I'd be surprised if the entire US market made up for more than 20% of their total sales.