The First Disney Plot Twist Villain

[@kieranstark7213]

*1st* one (to comment, which is me, and have a) twist villain is Stinky Pete (and boy howdy, because as the main antagonist rather than the overarching antagonist like Al McWhiggin, did he live up to his name) if you count Pixar (he was Lotso before Lotso, except Lotso is somehow even worse, way worse).

[@moviemadness2536]

Well, the villain I talk about in the video predates Stinky Pete by a large margin. But not a bad guess.

[@salemnightlark8161]

I can see how some people would argue that he doesn't count because of how soon the twist comes after his introduction but the when you consider the length of the short there's not a lot of time to add filler without messing up the pace

[@moviemadness2536]

Yeah, I see what you're saying. Still, by the standards of the short, the twist isn't revealed until at least half way through, so by most standards that is long enough to be considered a plot twist.

[@salemnightlark8161]

@moviemadness2536 I'm not disagreeing with you I'm trying to support your argument

[@moviemadness2536]

@@salemnightlark8161 Thank you. And I was trying to reinforce your argument. So all around, it's a pretty solid one.

[@Yellowguy0619]

Actually, the actual first plot twist villain was Stromboli!

[@moviemadness2536]

He doesn't qualify for two reasons: 1). He's not in the movie for long enough. 2). He's not the main villain of Pinocchio.

[@Yellowguy0619]

@@moviemadness2536 So you're talking about a MAIN plot twist villain.. got it... and Stromboli is a secondary antagonist so makes sense.

[@moviemadness2536]

@@Yellowguy0619 Exactly. That perfectly sums it up.

[@1992disney]

Why is Rourke on the thumbnail when the video's actually about Mr. Winky?

[@moviemadness2536]

So that it'll be a surprise. Besides, people are more familiar with Rourke anyway.

[@1992disney]

@@moviemadness2536 I don't know. That seems pretty misleading.