The First God of Destruction was the creator of the Saiyan Race! Whis lied to everyone

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[@HakaiEnglish]

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[@v1ncesdrugdealer]

ok..... what about the Saiyan Race in other universes they can also go super Saiyan and have the same basic powers so he couldn't have been a destroyer god because of the Saiyan race being in other universes if I'm wrong I would like to know why

[@P7z1n]

First

[@LokiWyrm]

Separate proposal: this hypothetical ancient god monkey thing simply was a god with no place in the hierarchy. Because Sun Wukong had no place in his divine hierarchy in the book, he just kinda was randomly semi divine

[@truekurayami]

Expanding on that idea, Wukong was born from stone, so the Ancient Monkey God could have been a planetary God like Kami was though naturally formed for his world like the Kai, instead of taking up a mantle like the Gods of Destruction, and the gods of earth. as his decendents evolved over the years into the Sayians their "godly" nature became less and less tied to their world manifesting in the different transformation states until they could regain and control their innate God Ki through transformations like SSJG.

[@ainsown666]

Why no one talked about Mr. Popo? He's a supreme being and all we have is that he's a "Genie" and he was born thousands of years ago in the Other World and sent to Earth in order to assist Kamisama, Popo's like one of a kind character 'cause we haven't seen other planets' Guardian Gods (like Kamisama) let alone their assistant(s)

[@MasterCrowshi]

The "forbidden kingdom." 🤌🤌🤌 Yeah that is nice theory based off of what heard from tales. Dragon ball forbidden kingdom would go hard.

[@neji_rip4302]

I actually like this theory more. And my theory was ozaru was beerus predecessor which could explain why he wanted to have them all wiped out using freeza

[@FrogThatVibes]

Keep in mind Sun Wukong was UBER immortal

[@alanfarias6285]

Ozarru was the God of destruction before berrus, berrus killed him and claimed the title but when berrus seen that there could be the potential for another super saying god to emerge that could possibly be as strong as ozarru he told friza to destroy planet vegeta, because he knew a descendant of ozarru would be the only one capable of challenging his place as the god of destruction if planet vegeta and the sayians weren't destroyed. that's why whis told vegeta the only way he would train him is if he would become a future God of destruction, thus reclaiming his rightful place of his great ancestor ozarru

[@joshlyon9518]

Wow, chill out. Take an english class.

[@xxargonautxx9790]

Dude is that actually lore facts? If not, fucking be a writer for DBS. That would be SICK!

[@chaoshonako9780]

@@xxargonautxx9790 it’s not lore facts but it is interesting. But beerus did have frieza destroy planet vegeta. But if this were to be true, I don’t think it matches beerus. He isn’t cowardly unlike frieza. Beerus was also searching for the super sayain god, he was searching for a challenge, not run away from one

[@officialytfate]

People forgot about SUPER SAIYAN GOD Yamoshi ..... A Saiyan god during civil war in Saiyan planet Sadala....

[@adamplentl5588]

An Ozaru is just any Saiyan in giant monkey form this makes no sense at all.

[@hahsjskdvehsghsjdbdvshsh]

i think the first saiyan was son wukong

[@kevinkeeling1990]

I was coming here to say that too. You beat me to it.

[@hahsjskdvehsghsjdbdvshsh]

@@kevinkeeling1990 sorry man! i just like the fact that goku is based off of son wukong, didnt mean to "steal the show" lol

[@kevinkeeling1990]

Hey man, you ain't stealing nothing. The monkey king is one of my favorite tales. In the tale, he would actually rival the Omni King and so the saiyan race would be able to do so also. In theory...

[@xeo7064]

tbh goku is wukong in chinese, try translating it lol

[@kevinkeeling1990]

@@xeo7064 yeah, I remember watching something about the story of Dragonball and all the cultural references to different stories and myths. Thats why I think it would be awesome to have a god who created the saiyan race that is "the Monkey King". Maybe Goku holds more of his genetics than others and thats why he's ascending to god form sooner than others. Dont know. Just like the theory of it. 😁

[@shadowbane01]

Namekians are descended from a multiversal being that created the super dragonballs, and are commonly elevated to god of a planet. Chances are they're god descended too, and i'm betting Orange Piccolo now possesses God Ki in that state, he was briefly able to sense god goku in Broly by locking onto broly first then focusing on goku from there so he likely has a path to god ki through his link to Kami at least.

[@Naramyx]

You mean Zamala

[@rontii1011]

@@Naramyx You mean Zalama?

[@carso1500]

Yeah, saiyans and namekians seem to be able to access god ki even by accident as it was the case with future Trunks and even Gohan beast, namekians also seem to have a connection to the divine

[@phenex5190]

@@carso1500Yeah, they also just drink water most of the time and don't need to eat food very often if at all, sounds like a blessed race

[@letsrock12345]

A manga page in the granola arc mentioned that namekians come from a "completely different realm altogether"

[@MaGSteelX]

It makes a lot of sense because even Beerus mentioned a super Saiyan God which led them to do ritual in the 1st place! Which the seer fish told him existed.

[@justthings4044]

he mentioned it because he dreamed abiut it. he didnt even know what it is when he woke up. not even whis knew what it is

[@Nannuq]

Kami also had divine ki as the guardian of earth and was also able to sense it Dendi is the same now, Picalo can also sense divine ki, he just didn't think of trying to sense it since there wasn't many gods around till they showed up

[@Shrekboi]

You do know Divine ki and God ki are 2 very different ki type in the DBS universe right? Divine ki = Demi God God ki = full God Dendi, goku, vegeta, boroly, gohan, trunks, goten, pan, and even bula is like Pursius or Hercules from Greek mythology. They can become God if they are worthy but they are not God! Hope that helps you understand.

[@polkhigh_33]

​@@Shrekboi Youre right with divine ki and god ki not being the same thing, but theyre similar. And well, youre blatantly wrong with your ancient greek metaphor. The Sayans, Namekians and Frost Demons (Frieza's race) are expected to be demigods, just like the Hakaishins. They're all likely mortal beings with a godly ancestry, therefore being able to access divine ki (regular ki infused with god ki) through intense physical and mental discipline. However, they can not turn into a full god. Pure god beings in DBS are only the Angels, the Grand Priest and Zeno himself, besides up to 4 other beings that seem to match Grand Priest in power (Likely the two sentries guarding Zeno and the Buu brothers, though theres not really any info on what type of ki theyre channeling. Maybe corrupted god ki.) The main difference between a full god and a demigod in Dragonball is indeed the ki control. Full gods were built to have permanent and unrestrained access to god ki. Thats their natural state. Thats why Whis can stay in MUI 24/7 without even breaking a sweat, his body directly channels god ki to do so. Pretty much like a permanent spirit bomb channel without having to stand still. Demigods however cant endure the raw power and complexity of god ki, thats why they have to dillute it with their mortal ki to harness its power.

[@brandonyang2203]

That's nothing, Mr. Satan will kill them all

[@joezar33]

Honestly Humans should be the most powerful beings in DB , based on a human being created DB lol wait are there Humans in DB or they just Earthlings a wannabe sub Human Class ?

[@Kmmlc]

@@brandonyang2203 Incorrect. Lord Shaggy in his Mr. Satan avatar form will destroy them all.

[@jackpenhorwood]

I love how much content there is on KZbin for dbz literally amazing can watch these videos all day

[@DerToasti]

They distract me from my depression.

[@Azriel261]

The Kaio Ken technique is a divine transformation, one that Yamcha learns when he was training under King Kai or North Kai, but Yamcha never used it after learning it. When he realized that Goku and Vegeta would be gone from Earth however, he began training in Kaio Ken to the point that he can take on a powerful being much stronger than himself and win. And I do believe that Krillin also learned it and would not use it unless he had to

[@williammckenzie3445]

They cannot as it would more then likely kill them without the proper training. The form nearly kills goku any time he uses it.

[@mohamedelamrani6378]

they can't use it while they are alive. they may have used it when they were in king kai's planet, because they were already dead, and their bodies wouldn't suffer the consequences of the kaioken.

[@smokingsoilder]

Doesn't Kaio-ken kill the user over time? King Kai didn't even master it until he died

[@yungsafarifamilyent.3885]

they can use kaiokenx0.10 or kaioken x0.001

[@Azriel261]

Yamcha and Krillin didn't take training seriously after Dragon Ball but they started to around the middle of Dragon Ball Super. It's true that Yamcha took over the Turtle School after Roshi decided to "retire ". Krillin used Kaio Ken at his maximum to fight in the Tournament of Power which was his last actual time of being a fighter. After the Tournament he and 18 retired

[@stumpytheviolator3118]

Considering Akira Toriyama also stated that Goku and Vegeta are distantly related, we know the saiyans had a split in their culture. Nothing states a god of destruction can't create stuff. We could look at it to different ways, he was dying and created an race in his image to be steadfast protectors, or he bred with the Saiyan race. This is taking into consideration most of the Saiyan history and culture was lost way before Frieza came along.

[@thalmoragent9344]

So all the Saiyans are related to one another, due to this Saiyan Destroyer God

[@tituscarnes1395]

Ipoonbt . HH I pkbhuhgu

[@willabates88]

However Goku like all saiyans possessed a violent primal nature focused on obtaining power. This exists in different forms and obsessions with different aspects power, control, fear of loss, or just dominance. This was effectively dumbed down when Goku landed on earth and the impact hit his head. We observe this when vegeta recognizes kakorot and states what happened to him when they first arrive to earth and Goku says idk who you guys are. Vegeta says you must have hit your head and forgot. You get the gist all saiyans have a capacity for merciless violence and greedily pursuit of power. So this race was not a benevolent creation that is why their actions have always doomed them to destruction. Goku is an example of influence of human nature. In general Goku is special Ed

[@liamlarson7644]

Are we forgetting the most important fact? Toriyama is flying by the seat of his pants and is making it up as he goes along. The amount of times he forgot he did something in the past to retcon in the moment? Speculate all you like but the man is just going “fuck it” left and right, and I love it!

[@SasukesChild]

Also something that makes this theory make so much sense is how wis told vegeta he would train him if he became the next god of destruction… so yeah this theory is spot on and will probably get explained in the series later on. Great video bro!!

[@eddiecruz8088]

I really wish vegeta becomes a god of destruction and he has to watch his family grow old and die but still look after his ansestors and remind them of there heritage and lineage

[@eli2210]

God of destruction isn’t limited to saiyans though

[@OoO-rf2gt]

"spot on" = peak anime brain 🚮

[@DawudIhsan-mt9vn]

Vegeta is the King of all Saiyans

[@josipmarasovic2436]

frieza is perfect god of destruction

[@kern5092]

Makes sense considering Berus told Freiza to wipe out the Sayian race. He probably feared his replacement would come from one of them

[@johnmorrisbectonwhite6410]

Thatz a lie heard tha freiza ask n beerus could he destroy planet vegeta and he just gave him tha ok look

[@OsvaldoGomez-d9d]

@@johnmorrisbectonwhite6410what

[@joshua7426]

Also worth mentioning , beerus telling frieza to do anything is not canon

[@TenchixRyoko]

Berus probably told Freiza do that because they saw the Saiyans as a continual problem and so he's just got a rid of them to avoid later nuisance. But still that could be because of their ability to use divine ki.

[@leonardtreman6457]

Unlikely, Beerus taught goku how to become a super sayin God so he could fight him. That's not the action of someone scared of sayins.

[@JoeXTheXJuggalo1]

Well Sun Wukong/The Monkey King (also known as Son Goku in Japanese) is the god of fighting. Sun Wukong also traveled on a Nimbus Cloud (Jindouyun/Somersault Cloud) and had a staff Ruyi Jingu Bang (Nyoi Bo in Japanese). Goku from the DB franchise was heavily inspired by the Sun Wukong. So if you mix what you say about DB and Sun Wukong there's a possibility that Saiyan could be descendants of Sun Wukong. Also I shall add that if they are descendants of Sun Wukong and how strong Goku is and how he gets stronger all the time fast throughout the DB franchise is that Goku may not only be descendants but a direct bloodline descendant to Sun Wukong. Well that's just my theory but it is something to think about.

[@wallaceluna6241]

Doesn’t explain Vegeta being able to go SSG tho or his evolved form of it. Since Goku n Vegeta aren’t related at all.

[@abrahambalham9094]

Nice theory

[@kingrapaye7390]

It's in everyone's bloodline so by intense training one can unlock his potential and go through many transformations that's for Vegeta. But if you really watch the series you would know that it's like Goku is just handed these transformations without training hard.That only explains the fact that his bloodline to the god is strong

[@JoeXTheXJuggalo1]

@@wallaceluna6241 Well it was due to Vegeta training with Goku in Whis's staff/That Place. His staff is basically a stronger an better version of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber that had god ki inside it. So because of the training with Goku inside he was able to unlock his SSG form.

[@JoeXTheXJuggalo1]

@@kingrapaye7390 I do watch the series and have watched it since it the original DB first aired in the US in the early 90s. It's due to Goku's S-Cells being high. The S-Cells being connected to the spirit and emotions of the Saiyan. A kind, caring, and gentle spirited Saiyan has higher S-Cells. That on top of Goku's training what made it easier for Goku to turn Super Saiyan. The catalyst that made him first turn SS was when Freeza killed Krillin. His emotions of sadness and anger of seeing his childhood friend being killed unlocked the first form of SS. Than he was able to know and understand how to do it. Thus making it easier for him to unlock each level and form of a SS. Due to Vegeta always being how he is and always competing and in a way being jealous of Goku it was harder and slower for him to unlock each form. It took lots more harder training with emotional and spirit control for him to unlock. Pretty much every Saiyan has the ability and potential to unlock SS and each form but because how they are and how Freeza used them they couldn't get their S-Cells up high enough to do it. So because Goku was raised on earth the way he was to become caring and good spirited. My initial comment about was just a random theory I threw out connecting Sun Waking to the DB universe and connections/bloodlines.

[@Hei_Darkfire]

This is a great theory. I'd love to see this get expanded some more. The thought of a previous Saiyan being a previous God of Destruction seems pretty cool. Of course, there are plenty of fan mangas with fanmade previous and future gods of destruction, so it wouldn't be that far out there to have another with this one.

[@stephaniepage4334]

I agreed

[@Gnarwolf]

Fan made manga/anime stories is absolutely cringe

[@Robin-pj9qd]

if we're being honest all anime is cringe, even being a fan of it you can admit that.@@Gnarwolf

[@kepaloha]

This "Fan Made" kind of explains it,, remember when Whis said that there was once 18 universes, but Grand Zeno erased 6 of them,, then in the tournament of power, 17 wished for all the universes to be brought back, he didn't say only the ones that were erased today,,,, he just said that he wanted to bring them all back. What if in one of those erased universes was the father of all Sayajins,,, kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYOkh2SkrbRkfLc

[@kskrocksolid1948]

This is probably the best theory on saiyans ive ever seen. It actually sounds like something that would fit perfectly. Great job on the video bro.

[@rodrigocarmona9827]

0:22 Where did you read that "only saiyans" have a God transformation, or godly ki? For Goku and the other saiyans to turn into the god form they need a ritual.. but is wrong to assume the others races doesn't have anything similar

[@maryboyd8126]

Although I do generally like this theory, there is one thing wrong with it, Divine ki, can be used by anyone of any race, it's just some races find it easier or harder to use it, hell when Goku was going to recruit frieza, we see Frieza actually contain a god of destruction's energy, meaning he could very well have God ki, which wouldn't really be all that surprising because Frieza before Goku came and became super Saiyan never trained a day in his life, and in a few months when he did train after the events of his defeat by Goku, he unlocked a form equal to super Saiyan blue, which we all know is deprived from super Saiyan God and therefore uses Divine ki, the same may also be said for ultra instinct but that's only a maybe, if anything it's deprived from the same key that angels and the grand priest use, and I'm pretty sure angelic ki and divine ki are different in the dragon Ball multiverse, but we do also know that there are at least two or more types of divine ki, the one that the kai uses and the one that the destroyer gods use, but it seems like angelic Ki may only have one form or type, and plus you also have to take into consideration that beerus himself was a mortal, trained by Whis, an Angel, to unlock Divine or God ki, so that he may become a God of destruction, that alone kind of makes your theory obsolete, though it would still be very fun to think about what could happen if this theory was correct.

[@beaubellamy2999]

This actually makes a ton of sense. I’ve often wondered about the Saiyan legends being about a “Super Saiyan”. Goten, Trunks, and Gohan reached SS as little kids and Gohan SS2 barely a teenager and Gotenks could go SS3. It makes sense that the legend wasn’t a “Super Saiyan” but a supreme saiyan, a SS god.

[@mckinzie354]

Yes, this theory fits! It's also interesting that all of the other races of Destroyers are various animals and the Simeon is missing. I also remember talk that Zeno erased a few Destroyers in the past. I think the theory is quite sound.

[@bigsaactriggah]

What’s a Simeon ?

[@NiazDokrat]

@@bigsaactriggah a monkey

[@immafatazn]

@@bigsaactriggahmonkey, ape

[@Chadmeleon]

@@bigsaactriggah monkey

[@axamesvc]

Incorrect. Kais role is to create and maintain, and destroyers role is to destroy and assist kais to keep everything in order.

[@Dbz_Super-clips]

I love the monkey look for the first sayian. Well done.. id like to see animation with him.

[@dabookie09]

It makes sense. Whis is adamant on Vegeta becoming a God of Destruction. Vegetas bloodline could be a direct line, which is why he could achieve the form by himself. It could be a way of bringing prestige back to his royal bloodline by becoming a God of Destruction and becoming the king of all Saiyans.

[@carso1500]

No not the king of all saiyans The god

[@Ignirium]

I hope not, Vegeta beat Top because a man who fights for his values beats (should always beat) someone who does not fight with any values and does not care about protecting life. Vegeta would be weaker in character and worth; Vegeta would lose so much humanity if he threw away everything that made him who he is. It's the whole reason he cancelled out top's energy of destruction, he proved everything he made of himself is greater than that. He tried allowing Bobidi to enslave his mind to become stronger but Goku called him a liar, accused him of not even believing he threw everything away just for more power. He also immediately beat Goku and sacrificed himself for humanity while he was Majin Vegeta. Vegeta embodies so many things, respect, honor, pride; self worth, discipline, determination, stoicism - all of that would need to be thrown away to become a God of Destruction. More like a God of Nothing.

[@JasWinnin-gi2jb]

@@Ignirium💀 bro hasn’t seen ultra ego a form that uses destruction ki

[@Jeezes718]

Fun fact: in the original script for battle of gods beerus' name was written differently so itnwould be a reference to the word virus nor beer. He would have been an anthropomorphic lizard that went around the universe infecting races with what was essentially evil itself, causing them to be violent and destructive. He would reveal the last race he did this to was the saiyans and that while they were always warriors they werent murderers, and thats why half saiyans are generally more peaceful, their hybrid biology cancels out his infection. But then toriyama decided to model beerus after his cat and make him the god of desteuction after the vet said he legitimately believed it was a demon.

[@RazoJ20]

Toriyama (rip) honestly is the George Lucas of DBZ...so much potential but honestly he had the dumbest instincts. Veerus sounds a lot more interesting than Beerus the sleepy Egyptian cat.

[@medoissa4413]

Keep the work going 👍

[@Adragos17]

This is actually a really cool fan theory! And it's lore friendly!

[@Jekkzur01]

Very nicely done!!

[@maddogshamus4735]

When you said there was no transformation in the namek race, you forget about the supernamic which piccolo became when he fused with Tommy which was previously mentioned by guru on namek that if he had stayed in his original form and retained his supernamic powers Frieza would be no match for him

[@darkrevenger04]

Except that isnt a transformation as it is a merger of bodies sort of like fusion except a transformation would be like the Super Saiyan variants

[@beastfromthemiddleeast6369]

You mean Super Kami Guru, no?

[@Osiris1K]

@@beastfromthemiddleeast6369 NAAIIIIILLLLLLLL

[@mxtw7910]

Tbh this is really the only thing that makes sense. Great work 🙌🏽

[@joeyjay793]

Maybe it was suppose to be for balance between deities. In order for a SSJ god they have to have righteous hearts. So their purpose may have been to help a balance between all life from mortals to deities.

[@mattwimprine6878]

Sounds like the original God of destructions to me

[@RyanFozzyFoster]

Which other race trained with the gods to develop god ki?.. I don’t remember any of them doing so

[@bowiemtl]

My headcannon is that the saiyans are the only race that has hair adapt to their transformations, not the only race that has them. Beerus may be a god but just like Goku and Vegeta he was trained by Whis before becoming a god. That means he was once a mortal with destruction powers just like Toppo who was shown to have a god transformation. As for why 5 saiyans can spawn another ssjg? Just plot convenience, there was no thought beyond that to make it all make sense.

[@williambreeze2659]

Thanks for the video!

[@AzraelIgnis]

It would be amazing to find out that Goku, Vegeta, and Broly are direct descendants of Son Goku the monkey god. That's why goku, vegeta, and Broly are just insanely op and are always able to break their limits so easily. With this theory you could really unravel a back story like no other. If Son Goku millions of years ago became a god to stop Majin buu after being created by the demons. one could conclude that Son Goku had his way with many ladies after that crazy battle. By that means creating what we know as the Saiyan race. Son goku dies peacefully but then is reincarnated as Son goku present time.

[@7626728]

Goku.... is Son Goku. He is named after Son Wukong the Monkey King from "the journey to the west"

[@AzraelIgnis]

@ clearly your comprehensive skills need improvement.

[@Mr_Unstable.]

Makes a lot of sense, great video mate

[@thomdrew18]

Well they clearly tell you that Toppo was a God Of Destruction in training and he even cemented that decision in the tournament of power when he took on a god of destruction form and used the energy as well(even though he ended up catching Vegetas hands in the end). So honestly this theory has quite a bit of backing if you really think about it because we already know that gods of destruction are chosen and trained.

[@Kmmlc]

Not to mention that they can retire. This means that once Toppo took up the mantle, technically Belmond was retired, yet clearly he would still have access to divine ki. It could well be that the Saiyan's progenitor is a retired destroyer.

[@jeffreyashley6753]

I thought that this really thought out great video!

[@tlhologelomabelane9863]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the fundamental difference between mortal Ki and God Ki is the user's ability to not let their Ki leak out. Trivial as it may sound but that aspect was the whole extend of Goku and Vegeta's training with Whis

[@Engomeni]

So no one will talk about how the scoring beat is layed so perfectly, I love it. Oh, I'm not a rapper, guys.

[@thizzmonkey7846]

Now imagine a super sayian for staying in that form then activating god ki I think they’ve been going about it all wrong. Combine the forms to there truest potential

[@mattwimprine6878]

I think you missed the part where super Saiyan is draining on your chi and god chi is not nearly as draining as on your chi. Which evolves into the blue form. When kaio Ken is applied the chi drains faster. And the preservation of stamina while improving is what leads to ultra instinct. They took a very intentional path when writing. But that doesn't mean it's the only path.

[@thizzmonkey7846]

@@mattwimprine6878 okay I think you missed my point dude they are going to be getting there tails back and if they can go super sayian 4 while activating god ki that potential skyrockets past what they currently can access as of mixing forms

[@thizzmonkey7846]

@@mattwimprine6878 also I said nothing about Kaioken bro

[@thizzmonkey7846]

And I promise I’m not trying to be a jackass and come at you stupid I’m just trying to clear up what I meant because I’ve been keeping up with the manga and Goku and Vegeta are gonna wish for there tails back

[@padraig-bobotia-maria5176]

ssb is doing that back to front

[@Christos_Tso]

The Gods of Destructions looks like the ancient Egyptian Gods.

[@ragnarphillips1957]

The namakians do have a Divine transformation they mention it in super

[@richardsmall8940]

Supernamakiens......like piccolo being able to beat first form cell....hold his own against 2nd form cell and overpower android 17.....when 18 or 17 could toss ss vegeta around like rag doll

[@ragnarphillips1957]

@@richardsmall8940 the nemakian book of legends and piccolo has 2 forms now

[@slawton17]

@@richardsmall8940 piccolo never fought 2nd form cell

[@richardsmall8940]

@slawton17 ... Dam your right it was tien

[@Ken777zz]

What should I watch after DBZ super?I have no idea...

[@cypherblaze7478]

The two movies after tht

[@johnsimms44]

Yajirobe was the first god of destruction actually 🗡️🗡️🐒

[@தலஅஜித்-ள6ட]

I agree

[@mattwimprine6878]

Really? Please tell me how this happens. I am in the dark here.

[@domagojjalsovec5631]

Cut off vegetas tail in ozaru form

[@johnsimms44]

Domagoj gave one example. He's always been there in the darkness watching. Lol

[@aimiliosp]

Congratulations! The most explanatory scenario i have ever seen since 1994 I'm watching Goku;)

[@BTHDreamer]

Toryima had a hard time keeping all of his arcs together story wise as he forgot things this is way to deep for what he had going on lol

[@mahmoudkhodr166]

unrelated opinion, super saiyans are the only ones who can tranform into "gods" because theyre the main protagonists of the show.

[@narrativeless404]

That makes no sense from the lore perspective

[@justinthornton7035]

They created things they create things

[@JeeDaRula]

The look on Vegeta face when Shenron was breaking down SSJG was so Vegeta 😂 it’s giving “It better be me”

[@MichaelDavis-sd6vu]

Toppo was able to tap into God of destruction energy.

[@Statuslock]

THANK YOU you lmao. DBZ isn't about humans xD. They can only dive into so much in a cartoon without convoluting it.

[@SpazoDomingo]

trueeee

[@jamiewilson406]

Yeh but that was destruction energy and he was being trained in it as a replacement, but the sayians have their own actual form not the hakia form

[@Statuslock]

@@jamiewilson406 Remember EVERY God of destruction has the power to access "Divine Ki". And some (If not all) were mortals at one point. It is within all beings. Matter of fact...The title of the video IS "The first God of Destruction was the creator of the Saiyan Race!" So why wouldn't destruction energy be part of the conversation? Ok let's leave it out for your sake of grasping the convo, and move on to transformations, because not many races have transformations, which honestly shouldn't mean anything. But don't be surprised to find out if, let's say, hypothetically speaking, a being that's of Freeza's race had a good heart. Don't be surprised if he could turn into "Super God Ki Refrigerator", Or in their way of naming their forms, "God Refrigerator" lmao

[@grownreserected7935]

"So the Divine Ki is already within the Sayians" is why they were destroyed. Imagine what would happen if all the Sayians reached that level, and suddenly, you have billions of God like warriors to contend with, who have no certainty of their moral alignment.

[@edwardmaunye1649]

Its very possible but also remember saiyans are grown in pods of some sort meaning it could also be a genetic mutation or saiyans are actually the real Gods the first creatures to move from monkey forms to Godly hood and are able to revert to the same form at will once they have fully mastered the power but thats just a thought your theory makes more sense and i love it could make a great story line

[@MikaeruDaiTenshi]

I think the reason they are in the pods for the first years, is to stop them from growing too attached to their parents/children, which helps in growing them into the ruthless killing machines, the saiyans are described as.

[@YungFlirtZ10]

ooof this is interestinggggggg bro have they got any films

[@honorpatience1301]

You earned your "like" 😁👏

[@phillipsherbrook5179]

Would be great if it was true. Also they could do so much with it if the progenitor of the saiyans was allso beerus's mentor. Would play in nice with his intrest in the saiyans plus how he did not destroy the saiyans himself but made freeza do. They could really do alot with this theory.

[@mattwimprine6878]

Dude! The monkey is the original sayian god. Then the other sayian god that people love (I can't remember his name) is the offspring of the monkey guy. But his parents die while he is young and he loses his way. He creates the position of god of destruction, and takes Beerus under his wing. Only to be challenged by his kin many generations after . I should get paid to write. 😂 Maybe not but maybe. 😂

[@Osiris1K]

But I think is a stretch he’s overthinking how the ssg forms work it’s regular ssj with god ki

[@Lenoh]

"So...you're Sun Wukong. (DANGIT!)" "I am Son Goku, yes." "(...roll with it.)"

[@evrettej]

The title alone is complete cap. Just stop

[@watchnofacee]

It actually does make a lot of sense seeing it’s a theory

[@bartosz2227]

Unfortunately, the series won't ever explain it. With Master gone, whatever they'll do with DB it won't be the same, nor even real cannon.. 😢 R.I.P A.T. (*)

[@tonybrawner6385]

Guys, the saiyans are not the only ones who can become gods. Toppo managed to unlock divine power as well. Even though he already had a God of destruction in his universe he was able to become one

[@zackspangler99]

or was he granted Divine power? do we really know toppo that well? maybe the angels have the ability to grant divine ki only to those in G.o.D training just a theory a DBS theory

[@jones7299]

This is fabulous. I have the same story in my head. Perfect thank you for your work.

[@Cluob9Music]

I think long ago the saiyans did play a part in the hierarchy of gods and were the army or protectors of the universe. But overtime as gods became more powerful they were no longer needed so the angels erased their memories of their past and gave them their own planet.

[@patrioticbot1325]

Great idea! I'd love to see it picked and inserted into the story

[@joeyflvkko]

Am I the only one who cannot stand when people say BRAWLY?! It’s BROLY. (Bro-lee) Jesus 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂

[@MAW51187]

BROLEY

[@JohnnyTaxonomy]

Story of my life with the entire English language

[@joeyflvkko]

@@MAW51187 BROLY

[@MAW51187]

@@joeyflvkko brahli 😏

[@joeyflvkko]

@@MAW51187 BRO LEE

[@BrandonDunagan-m2o]

I think you really went hard this one. I just wish the creator would give us the whole back story on the main race of fighters the story has been following for 30 plus years now. Long over due !

[@andregalloway8701]

You may definitely be right about everything and there great ancestors Ozuru/ monkey king god was probably a god of destruction especially when you see most of the god of destruction are animals and the sayians great ape transformation is similar like wolf wolves 🐺 man transforming during the moon light but can also bring back super sayian 4 form as the original species looked like before their bloodline was diluted to which is why they look more human than the fan art you made in this video

[@bannerapollo3158]

Is the a continuation of dragonball super? I've seen videos like this but don't where to watch or if it's canon

[@wallaceluna6241]

So also a point towards your theory. In the battle of the gods. Berus was looking for the “Original” Super saiyain god. He settled for Goku cuz he said he could replicate it and keep him entertained. If this is the case. It coulda been there was a “God” like you said that found humanoid species he mated with. N made the Legacy in the first place.

[@boofis8953]

Cranky Kong really moved up.

[@thetrue7sparks]

Or, ya know, they just won't explain it.

[@thenumber1bean282]

PERIOD

[@KingDarius803]

I agree and also it was Lord B that wanted Vegeta to become the next God of Destruction if I'm not mistaken so I see your point there. No other fighters can raise their power levels the way Goku and Vegeta could so that in itself should show that they have a divine power in their bloodline and also the reason why powerful villains like Freezer was afraid of them and tried to extinct them.

[@Kmmlc]

Whis was the one that made that stipulation not Beerus.

[@DispelBreaker]

I like this theory. However, myself personally would, (piggybacking off of your theory) say the original Saiyajin god could have been a god of war. Making them different that the other deities and also NOT having his power granted by anyone else. This would in fact fit better with the Saiyajin's being a warrior race who enjoy fighting! What do y'all think?

[@EpochUnlocked]

Take a closer look. The Gods of Destruction have races based on animals from the Chinese Zodiac.

[@burn2406]

This is probably the best theory I've ever heard for dragon ball. Excellent. It makes too much damn sense.

[@NoBody-fu4ob]

Whats the name of the song? :D

[@runeblades083]

This theory makes a lot of sense... I swear at some point Beer's had mentioned he wasn't the first God of destruction choosen for this universe. And as we have seen through the end of the tournament of Power that the gods do pick then next one to be a God of destruction.

[@albertocastilloaguilar233]

Loved your theory bro

[@JuniorOvalles-qg3sm]

Jesus christ bro. That theory bro. THAT theory bro. Was fusking nicely well thought and well explained. Thank u sir😢

[@nelsonwoodard7459]

I still want to believe in the concept of the gods of combat. In Goku's universe they would take on the Chinese zodiac with a sayan as the monkey making the god of distraction the hairless cat the 13th member of the zodiac

[@n8dawg727]

Little do you all know...... chichi was secretly a sayain this whole time. Why everyone always afraid of her when she gets mad 😂

[@PetuniaTundra]

Frieza calling saiyans monkeys has a whole new meaning 😂

[@SamReeceCollections]

I think you're spot on, your theory makes a lot of sense actually.

[@mikeroylance289]

Interesting little bit of world building. It wouldn't really be a huge departure, since the writer's favor already makes Saiyans the most special race in the universe. Mind you, it's equally plausible that the other races we've seen COULD potentially pull off some sort of divine transformation, but we'll never see the necessary conditions because they're not important enough. After all, as you point out, many races can be elevated to divinity with divine assistance. But this certainly works, and it's an interesting idea. Well done.

[@obitouchiha6439]

Another theory. Divine Ki is not limited to specific races. It's actually a feat that only a few become powerful and skilled enough to earn. We've seen non-Saiayns in Dragonball super who are so powerful, that Goku and Vegeta MUST be in their god forms just to hurt them. There were even some non-saiyan characters, namely Toppo and Jiren who have demonstrated being able to harness ki that appears to be god ki, namely, the shape of their ki aura. It also wouldn't be too much of a stretch to take in the possibility that Piccolo's Orange form is a god state for Namekians and Frieza's golden form is a god state for Arcosians. And quite frankly, i personally would not object to idea of a human (who is NOT an Android or a majin Reincarnation, lol) being able to achieve the same milestone. Imagine Krillin and Tien learning how to tap into divine ki and then proceed to learning Ultra Instinct and having better mastery over it than Goku, while Yamcha learns Ultra Ego. Having the Earthing Z fighters train under the gods and angels would be a real game changer.

[@Sanatani7727]

Lord Hanuman ji. A Hindu God also worshipped in all earth ones china was also hindu , japan and other asian countries we share the same history so ozaru is same Lord Hanumanji

[@brians9016]

Wasn't it established that only after coming to Earth they became able to sense ki? I believe Vegeta even mentions it when he goes to Namek, that after visiting Earth he no longer needs a scouter. Could Sayans also have the ability to "learn" divine Ki by being in its presence or some other method? Vegeta said that he trained to obtain god-mode after seeing it was possible for Goku, and succeeded. Reaching super-sayan was tough but then later, reaching it could be explained through a simple technique of concentrating on a certain part of your back (or somthing like that) and Cabba and a another Sayan reach that level quickly as well. What if Sayans are still simply just a warrior-breed, designed with infinite potential to surpass challenges. Vegeta also said things like: sayans gain a power boost after healing from something that nearly kills them; keep more youthful bodies for longer in order to keep fighting, etc.

[@Wild-Goober]

I heard from a who’s quote somewhere that divine ki can be trained

[@christopherchilton-smith6482]

This is truly dope theory craft, my new head cannon for sure.

[@RizzoTheLegend]

very good video

[@harrymsn473]

The story of the Seven Dragon Ball is endless, with 29569 episodes being developed and two episodes per day

[@wocgoblin]

I love this show there's so many holes in the stories an characters.

[@collinmathys8261]

This is an anime show, it doesnt matter when the person who came up with this saga has died. It can only get worse, it is and always be a cartoon show. Why dive so deep in to this? Dont you people got a live next to this bullshit, dont get me wrong i love it. This thing wont be the same without the founder just saying.........😢

[@michaelbigam3253]

Solid theory, it would be great to see more info from canon

[@renaldoedwards1750]

This a reupload?

[@sumanyujoshi7693]

This means that even krillin can attain divine ki. Before Kami there was another guardian of earth and by watching the background scenes it is clear that he was a human. Thus all humans also have divine ki. They just need to train hard enough

[@chronosorion6911]

Well, the line about it being explained some day aged poorly. Rest well Akira Toriyama.

[@MrEkor69]

That's a really great explanation.

[@mattmccullough1093]

Its Sad thatTheir planet was destroyed and it's even sadder that they couldn't save any of their history we only know what we have learned from Vegeta and beerus.

[@SrtZollie]

Where can I watch this stuff at

[@ProfWollhoven]

This would also mean that every other mortal, who has some kind of GoD ancestry, would also be able to achieve god ki. I think we can all just agree that someone thought "Saiyan God would be cool" but never thought about what God Ki actually is or why only specific races should be able to sense it. In fact, they even forgot that Piccolo is able to sense deities because of Kami. I think Divine Ki is some primeval energy in the multiverse that has to be "experienced" to actually achieve it. It might be easier for races like Saiyans, because of their genetical ability of Zenkai but most other races should be able to get it, IF an individual has enough time. For humans, with their trash tier strength, it wouldn't be possible but Namekians should be able.

[@colersutton]

This is so great that the Dragon Ball team should pull a Scott Cawthan and steal this wonderful explanation from a theory video.

[@Kagebushin01]

Why is there so much fan art of God of Destruction Goku when his very values would prevent him from taking such a job?