The First i3 Vs The First Core 2 Quad | $15 CPU Showdown

[@MattDuck17]

On this channel cpu stands for cheap processing unit

[@BudgetBuildsOfficial]

That Hyper Threading sure works wonders, But I wonder how it would perform if you removed the HT from the i3,

[@abcdefg9613]

Budget-Builds Official like a Pentium G

[@BudgetBuildsOfficial]

It'd be nice to see if there was a difference at all, like in certain games that benefit from Hyper Threading, but yes I would imagine performance to be similar

[@gasparspeed]

Probably just the Cache and Clockspeed difference. Pentium Gs are just i3s with HT disabled, there was even a Pentium G model that you could buy that was able to unlock hyperthreading and "extra" cache if you bought a special code for the BIOS.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

I guess without HT the i3 would perform pretty similar to a non-overclocked E6700/7600/8500 After all the biggest change on the LGA1156 platform was the integration of stuff like the memory controller and a better power efficiency. The internals of the execution units intself were pretty close to Penryn. (45nm Core 2) IPC improvements similar to what we have now.

[@davidjohnson8122]

gasparspeed Which model was that? Also, BIOS is better than UEFI because manufacturers now lock the shit out of hardware, which wasn't as easy for them to do back in the days of the BIOS!

[@cybercat1531]

Suggestion for a future video: Compare something like a Last Gen Core 2 Quad QX9650/QX9770 vs a first Gen i7 like the Core i7-940 etc to see how things improved from Core 2 Quad.

[@Kakadutuber]

almost 0. Unless ist a first gen I7 six core, the QX9770 actually beat the quad I7 in almost every task

[@nikolakarovic5964]

@@Kakadutuber I can confirm this , my q9650 on 4ghz has allmost same results like i7 920 on 3.8ghz (sometimes its better and sometimes worse) . Keeping C2q on factory clocks is sin.

[@variantedm]

Cries in pentium 4 3.0 Ghz

[@kerekes01]

*Cries in pentium 1.8 ghz...*

[@remii1078]

Mr. Spagheddy i feel ya buddy #Pentium4MR

[@whydohandlesexistAAA]

*Cries in K6-2 450mhz*

[@simio4760]

*Cries in celeron e3400*

[@griffin8062]

Cries in 486

[@f.a.i9638]

I challenge you to build a trade pc. Where you sell items buy and sell until you have the good components.

[@FeZerret]

nice idea for a new series ^^

[@neoqueto]

He'd win scrapyard wars by a huge margin if he were to participate. He's the god of budget PCs and aftermarket components.

[@tk_4777]

Tech yes City is insane too, these guys would dominate something like scrapyard wars $$ to perf.

[@noahross1931]

my god you just made me laugh so hard

[@f.a.i9638]

Yes,my friend you were challenged. :-)

[@woychek]

proud owner from a Q6600 at 3,6GHz here

[@zhi258]

I still have my q6600 in a box. Not selling. But not in use. Just because it's a respectable cpu.

[@akshitgupta6969]

@@zhi258 dude wtf xD

[@MaeseThorMenta]

Videos with Q6600 = I hit like instantly

[@billj5645]

You younger guys forget that nobody bought a Q6600 to run at stock speed, they were always heavily overclocked. You can't overclock that i3.

[@Cyrussss]

Core 2 quads are fucking immortals created by intel

[@davidjohnson8122]

Jonathan Cyrus Francisco The LGA 771 Xeons extend that immortality 😁😁😁

[@miragept]

Quite interesting than the superior(IPC, clock, price) phenom 2s are not as popular, probably because they are AMD. Would certainly love to see something like a phenom 965 here.

[@davidjohnson8122]

Mirage pt phenom ii 965 vs xeon x5470 would be no contest, the x5470, with less MHz would demolish the 965!

[@Cyrussss]

Mirage pt AMD sucks at single core performance

[@davidjohnson8122]

cpubenchmark.net the 965's single-threaded IPC is shit, as seen here on passmark

[@168ajk]

Just found an i3 2120 w/ a mobo for $37, thanks for the video :)

[@nickerson8310]

nice, you can upgrade to a i7-3770 later on

[@contents_of_the_subconscious]

or celeron

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

If you find one for an affordable price.

[@cassardavid94]

+Shadilayyy kek

[@168ajk]

I have a 6870 lying around currently, but I can always upgrade

[@RetroAdventure]

It is important to note that the i3 can support ECC memory making it a great NAS CPU option :)

[@sillyszili2593]

compare them to an FX-4100 or phenom/II X4 :D

[@bloody_pinata]

I had a q9400 running at 3.6Ghz for well over a year and it was a great chip.

[@punkbutler88]

dude, i love your videos on how old tech runs in the current world. Keep it up please.

[@enoll218]

I love how this guy tries to be as nice as possible to budget components and dosen’t just say “oBsOlEtE bUy A 12th gEn”

[@derek8564]

love your videos..being someone who was into computers when these CPU's were around its a nice trip down memory lane

[@orangt_official]

Fun fact: the last Core 2 cpu was a C2 Quad Q9500 launched at the same time as the first i3 cpu

[@prongs0611]

So it turns out that I've got a core 2 quad Q9650 @3Ghz (without overclocking) in an old Dell Optiplex. Now all I need to do is upgrade to 8GB of RAM, Windows 7 and add a GTX 1050TI low profile. I'm assuming that that would beat a 1st gen I3 ayy?

[@prongs0611]

A Random Idiot Play's Holy shit :D

[@High.Vibe.Living]

AngelProductions that cpu performs the same as I5 2300 in games

[@prongs0611]

aman00777 Oh my...

[@High.Vibe.Living]

AngelProductions actually q9650 is better than I5 2300 in games see futuremark scores for both cpus

[@prongs0611]

Yeah I can't do that with a Dell stock cooler xD, let alone the MOBO

[@rsmith14x]

Your voice is the most relaxing thing I have ever heard lol. I often rewind the video because I have zoned out lol

[@DanielCardei]

i thought it was an April fools joke :(

[@ArtisChronicles]

DanielC nope, it was dead serious

[@vividthespis]

Interesting. On my old Q6600 system I hit 3.8ghz on the cpu. 24/7 stable with prime 95 and folding at home was 3.6ghz. This was paired with a Maximus Formula motherboard. Your Q6600 under performed during your OC test.

[@Σινάπειος]

nice video dude, you are my best youtuber about pc's subjects.I'm still having a q6600 overclocked to 3.2ghz, msi gtx 650 also overclocked and 4gb ddr2 of ram and I can play gta v in normal settings at 900p with 60-80fps in the town and 100-120 in the country side.

[@rikou4214]

Wow, you're a verified channel now. Congrats

[@Choralone422]

The Q6600 can sometimes stutter in places the i3 doesn't due to 2 of the CPU cores in the Q6600 having to use the FSB to talk to the other 2 CPU cores. The Core 2 Quad CPUs were really just 2 Core 2 Duos strapped together with the FSB used as the link. The i3 doesn't have that limitation although HT can impose different performance penalties in certain situations. The Q82xx series quads were even a bit worse with respect to the FSB because they had half the L2 cache that the Q66xx series. I should know I still have a Q8200 based machine that I use often.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Yeah, C2Q's really benefit from raising the FSB. running the Q6600 on 6x 400 should already give quite a boost over the default 9x 266. But the higher the better. Ofcourse it depends on the amount of communication between the cores. So it will rise and fall depending on the code running on them. Havong 8 MB cache (4 MB per die) on the Q6xxx and 4 MB (2 MB per die) on the lower end Q8xxx. The upper Q8xxx and lower Q9xxx had 6 MB (3 MB per die). And then there were the Q9xxx series with 12 MB L2 (6MB per die) A hugs cache even by todays standards. Some application had quite the scaling over the cache with up to 30% difference between 2 MB and 6 MB on the same clock speed.

[@davidjohnson8122]

Choralone422 Then the x5470 is the perfected quad core and blows the q6600 away, while still using the same lga 775 socket, sweet!!!

[@matissaldis7923]

Choralone422 i have a question i does setting balanced to high proformenc relly chang things up?

[@jamesgarrett3000]

I was actually pondering this comparison. you read my mind!

[@yournemesis192]

Man I love your videos I don't know why they're so addicting but I watched every single video in the last 3 months

[@asdw1983]

Dude ! I love your channel, Relative "bang 4 buck" gaming hardware is my passion also...I believe in recycling/re-upgrading old hardware also

[@pategustavo4392]

I shouldn't even care about old hardware but hell I'll watch each and every video of yours.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Pate Gustavo thanks :)

[@brandonochs1372]

I got a really abused q9550 that was my daily driver since 2007 until 2 months ago lol, id love to see him test it

[@TripleMoonPanda]

I had an i3 530 all the way up until 2016. It was a beast of a dual core when it first came out.

[@DaxtonAnderson]

DO THE BSEL PAD MOD TO THE Q6600 AND COMPARE THE STOCK TO IT WITH THE PAD COVERED ! It boots at 3.0Ghz with a faster FSB if you cover a single pad on the CPU.

[@aurimasknieza7320]

*Cries in Core 2 Duo E4400 @2.6GHz and its iGPU*

[@jan334]

Aurimas Knieža the chipset has the gpu not the cpu

[@PeterGriffin-be5nc]

good CPUs to compare. i have a q6600 & gtx760 and was thinking of getting a used 2nd gen i3 mb bundle. now i think i go a bit higher like 3rd gen i5 as i see the gains wont be as large a i first thought. thanx random.

[@prerunnerwannabe]

I have bought and used a couple of i3-550 cpus, and they're not too bad! I would personally go for a 550 over a 530. It has a decent bump in clock speed and I have gotten both of my 550s for about 13 usd a piece.

[@amasteroftime6536]

It would be nice those benchmarks with the integrated graphics xD

[@enoll218]

I too like PowerPoint presentations

[@somratdutta]

I have i3 540, and overcloked to 3.5Ghz on stock mobo. please compare again after overcoming.

[@ghostal1873]

Watching this video with first Intel Core i3 CPU 530 on 1080p , nice nice. Keep up bro.

[@CurveOBP]

YES,I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE THE I3 530 VIDEO :D

[@metalrat2]

Thank you, cos you're answered a lot of my questions. Great job!!

[@nickelson66]

Core 2 Quads still have quite adequate performance. Even for mid-range gaming. I have a PC with Q8200/2x2GB DDR2-800/HD7850 1GB/21.5" FullHD specs and don't have a need to upgrade - still can play pretty much everything at medium-high settings.

[@cartsplayz932]

The best place for technology on budget. My favourite youtuber, keep it up!

[@Havok0159]

The issue is however that finding a reasonably priced 1156 board for that i3 is a lot harder than finding a 775 one for a C2Q.

[@MrVicky409]

Why u put q6600 at stock clocks when we already know q6600 is beast of its era when it comes to overclocking. I used Q9400 @3.6 ghz with gtx 960 and performance was outclass.

[@SatyajitGhana7]

another i3 530. awesome . a channel which tests processors that I use.

[@Cyberwolfman]

Bought my Core 2 Quad Q6600 in summer '06 and it's still running great. Only paid about $200 for it then (@ PC Club R.I.P.). Not bad for a build that's lasted a bit over 10 years.

[@icedawggg]

Great video as always.

[@robertkubrick3738]

I have seen brand new Q6600 on Gearbest for about $20, IF you are willing to wait 3 weeks for it to arrive from China where evidently they are still in production or they have a warehouse full of old stock.

[@BenTiredson]

Still use an i3 530 in my Toshiba satellite laptop for internet browsing and office works performs like a champ. I just upgrade it with an SSD after so many years using it.

[@12me91]

Not gonna lie, im surprised how well these two hold up at stock speed. A nearly 10 year old chip and an old dual core 4 thread chip

[@devindykstra]

1:53 "GTX 1060 with 8gb of VRAM" minor slip up, I still like the video

[@AkumaLP]

u deaf m8? He said GTX 1060 and 8gb of DDR3

[@fenchud2721]

I'm still running a Q6600! It came inside an old DELL XPS420 and thus, came on a motherboard that doesn't allow overclocking :( Over the last 10 years I burnt up the 8800GT it came with so that was replaced with a GTX750 Ti and I doubled the original 4GB RAM to 8GB. 10 years later, it's now a Q6600, 8GB RAM and a GTX750 Ti. I can't afford an upgrade so this is my daily machine and if your expectations are reasonable (given it's age), It's not a bad rig... ;)

[@lilchapstickakayungdimenti5319]

The i3 550 is single handedly the best budget CPU. It can be purchased for a mere $12 on ebay, and when compared on CPU boss to the i7 6700k, a $300 dollar CPU, it scored just 0.3 points lower.

[@dawidkiller]

Its not surprising that the 4 lesser cores experience more stutter because most load is on Core0 usually hyperthreading will really give the 2 cores a few more years of life

Hey when ryzen 3 is released you need to get your hands on it. It's the definition of your channel

[@maxmoko3577]

i dont comment much but this vid was very interesting,good job m8

[@Felixkeeg]

I think that Q6600 might be able to even clock higher (depends on the mb ofc)

[@farmerted487]

Yup, I've still got mine up and running at 3.2GHz. DFI LanParty P35, 8800GTX. It runs all the games my gf plays just fine. Ten years strong!

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

That is a sexy rig. Good old DFI, I miss them.

[@vovaproger]

I had q6700 and run it easy 3.33 ghz in default voltage.

[@yotoprules9361]

I have an issue with my old 775 pc which now has a q8400 in it, even if I overclock just 100mhz, it will boot and work perfectly fine, I reboot and it doesn't boot, it locks up, I turn the power supply off for a few minutes and then the pc works again. I disable the overclock and the issue goes away.

[@bitelaserkhalif]

@@yotoprules9361 sorry for old bump, but specify the motherboard here. If it's g41, you're unlucky because g41 has well known fsb wall

[@Aplifiedproductions]

i actually just salvaged this duo core and man its still amazing

[@Oddlot0930]

Why did you use Cinebence R10 instead of the new standard R15?

[@DaxtonAnderson]

I'm surprised that you only overclocked the Q6600 to 3.0Ghz, it was made to run at that speed when it was in development, but they noticed it got pretty hot in some low air-flow environments so they locked the FSB to 1066 and dropped the clock down to 2.4Ghz unless you overclocked. Covering the single pad brings the CPU back to it's original development speed of 3.0Ghz and 1333 FSB, I've seen some people push it further than 4.0Ghz on shitty stock coolers so you should have no problem pushing it. I'm sorry for so many comments haha

[@Mini-z1994]

Yep, planning during the autumn later this year to either do the socket 771 mod on a decent socket 775 motherboard i got for free here. The asus p5q pro currently housing a core 2 duo e6600 4 gb 800 mhz ram planning to get a 80w E5450 xeon & combine it with the 9800gtx + i got laying around atm for a cheap & somewhat period correct gaming pc. gonna be windows xp & windows 7 dualbooting ofc. On locked down or oem motherboards that supports the bsel overclocking mod its really useful to do that mod for some extra performance. Also got 4 gb ddr3 stick, am3+ matx motherboard (from a friends pc build a few years ago & got the 4 gb ram stick free.) & my old athlon II x3 445 which without any effort unlocks too a quadcore on this motherboard. (In 2010 the athlon II x3 cpus was ridiculously good money for the performance if you had a good set of ram as some people pushed those athlon II x3 cpus after they unlocked the 4th core closer too 4 ghz & some even hit that. I did on a gigabyte 870a ud3 rev 2.1 motherboard with 1333 mhz ram hit a 3.6 ghz overclock on a arctic cooling freezer 13 pro with voltage & fsb too spare sticking with the 1333 mhz speedlimit of my ram. (I could probably have pushed it further but as a student i didn't dare too as i was afraid of breaking a ram stick & ending up not being able to spend any money on my rc hobby as well.)

[@-eMpTy-]

Daxton Anderson yea I had the Q6600 with G0 stepping and I could easily overclock it to 3.24GHz with a $15 arctic alpine cpu cooler

[@JonnieAlpha]

I wouldn't even bother modding. YOu can get pre modded cpus on aliexpress. X5470 for instance.

[@DaxtonAnderson]

***** yes, let's order a whole new cpu instead of taking the ones we have out, covering a single pad with tape, and puting it back in. Totally cost effective.

[@cardboardsnail]

4ghz was not a common overclock for the 65nm Core 2 processors lol The 45nm ones were better known for that. 65nm usually topped out around 3.2-3.5ghz on air.

[@PeterGriffin-be5nc]

i enjoy these vids on older hardware rather than new. i suppose its because i can afford the stuff u show :-). all the best random.

[@v3xman]

I noticed you're running the games at high settings. Won't that cause a GPU bottleneck? That might also explain why the results of the CPUs are similar.

[@monev]

Do a video on if the Core i7 920 is still a decent CPU

[@EdgyShooter]

I'd like to see a comparison between the last duo/quad and the first i series CPUs

[@josephlopez1063]

I would love to see these game while streaming/recording!

[@ArtisChronicles]

Joseph Lopez I can't imagine it going very well. could be wrong though

[@Numnutism]

hey when you were showing off the processors at the beginning, you could have just taken pictures cause you weren't moving them around anyways, could have cut down on the size of your video file and made things a little easier for you

[@hassaanahmed3228]

Which card did you use 1060? Zotac?

[@centurybug]

I'd recommend the i3 just for the upgrade path, but my irrational love of the q6600 would lead me to a different decision for a personal rig..

[@edderjemanden]

Can you start testing Kerbal Space Program?

[@adampoper1475]

The quad is probably the better value considering here in the US you can buy oem socket 775 boards for like $15 whereas decent socket 1156 boards go for like $50

[@hassaanahmed3228]

Plz do dell optiplex 780 Q9400 with gtx 1060 3gb...plz

[@hassaanahmed3228]

Can it run everything at 1080p ultra..... Also What are effects of old 1024x768p monitors on new games....

[@JonathanDeane]

QX9650 would be best, but they still command a high price... 12MB of Cache and 3Ghz on a 1333Mhz bus. Probably still decent lol

[@ketchup1785]

Hassaan Ahmed If you're sticking to your native resolution of 1024x768, the bottleneck is put on the CPU and at some point would find the maximum framerate the processor is capable of putting out before it can't keep up with the graphivs card anymore. I wouldn't pair a GTX 1060 with such an old processor as you're paying for wasted headroom and potential of the card when paired with a low resolution/older parts that can't keep up.

[@hassaanahmed3228]

Jonathan Velazquez give me some suggestion of budget gaming.....of 200$ Thanx

[@Video247]

Hassaan Ahmed Kider rehte ho?

[@zunairkhan7537]

nice that you put two icons together, the first of both series could you do a video on the Q9550 next i'd like to see how it holds up in this new era of tech thanks

[@imtheonlyleft3292]

I still have that i3 530 with radeon HD 6670. Never knew its this capable

[@metroidfannumber1234]

I got the quad core because having faster rendering of models and is less stressful since it never seems to heat up in my workloads

[@RuruFIN]

Had a i3-530 & HD 3870 back in the day as my ex's Sims 3 machine, ran it nicely.

[@DaxtonAnderson]

I'm STILL running the Q6600 in my gaming rig. You can cover one of the CPU pads and it'll fool it to run a higher FSB at 3.0Ghz instead of 2.4Ghz (huge difference, google the BSel pad mod) I have it paired with 8GB of 800Mhz DDR2, a 240GB SSD, 3x700GB harddrives in Raid0 and a GTX1050ti OC edition from Zotac running at about 25% over stock clocks. It's a solid system and can be built (minus the raid) for about $400. Smashes a XBone out of the water!

[@DaxtonAnderson]

***** Easier said than done. I totally just have about 1000$ to drop on a new cpu + GPU, and a new motherboard for the socket plus new ram since I use DDR2 800mhz. Did I mention my rig costs less than 400$ and can smash an XBOne out of the water?

[@thegodhoward8037]

I just got a q6600 since im on a pretty tight budget I paid 12.50$ for it on AliExpress with free shipping and thermal paste I also paid 21$ for 8g of ddr2 ram a free gt 1030 a friend ordered for me and 25$ for the 2007 m9000t hp pavilion system im putting it all in

[@KeyToTime]

I'd like to see the difference after overclocking. I've got a i3 550 amongst my spare parts that I've had running at 4.5GHz before in a PC I built for a friend. Never owned a Q6600 but I have had a Q9650 at 4GHz since 2008. I used it as my main gaming PC right up until I finally upgraded in 2014. Would be interesting to see how they perform in modern games at those clocks. A project for me to do in the future perhaps...

[@darchandarchan7036]

it’s ryzen 3000 launch, lots of videos, but i’m here, watching 15$ cpu battle

[@peterpan408]

With older CPU, what is most relevant is will it do smooth (with subjectively acceptable 1% lows) 60fps at 1080P? For these CPU, the answer is no way!

[@Henchman1977]

Neat.. I'm actually building a budget pc (with a lot of info learned here) based on an i3-540 I found in my basement (I know right) that has a fairly modern and featured mobo.

[@eden1925]

I personally own the Q6600and use it daily, and I think it's still great. I can play all of my games on decent settings (exept Watch_Dogs 1...) and It's still a great CPU.

[@sush2142]

It's amazing to see that such an old and cheap PC can outperform a console.

[@MrMilli]

You can get a Q9300 (or Q9400) also for $15 and that one has a 1333Mhz FSB and is 45nm. A much more sensible purchase and will beat the first gen i3 consistently.

[@tom_9682]

I just got a q9400 and a gt 9800 for an upgrade of my e5300 and gt 8600

[@mo_venegas]

You should get Paladins, I prefer it due to the extra strategy aspect with the card system, and it's a lot less taxing on the PC, so you can get a better looking game with a really budget system

[@blackknight9710]

please benchmark them both overclocked! That quad core with a bsel/tap mod is fairly good considering it age and a free boost!

[@jxun4l3ht10]

I suggest that you should use MSI afterburner & RivaTuner to show fps and cpu/gpu load on screen rather than Fraps. It's more customizable, prettier and uses less memory than Fraps! Other than that, great content!

[@mikek92]

Why not try a Q9550 ? I still have one in my old gaming rig @3.6 ghz . 8gb ddr2 & a evga 780i sli mobo w/a gtx 760 2gb card . I also have a Q6600 in a Lenovo pc that my wife swiped from me . I still have another Q6600 loose in the closet waiting for a home... Love these low-budget builds too , keep up the good work !

[@kristiyanmilanov768]

What if i told you that I am still using a 8 years old core 2 quad? Roch solid cpu. Running on 2,7ghz with stock cooler. Still capable to run most games at low, butfor such an old machine is something.

[@siddhantrakshit6531]

I think the ram speed in the older core 2 quad processors might create a bottleneck in powering the full potential of a modern day card , that's where the i3's are advantageous even tho the c2q's can achieve a lot of power if they're oc'ed

[@nihadasadli2642]

You read my mind mate, i was looking for this.

[@populartiktokcompilations8495]

love ur videos man.... also you should do a video on the hd6870

[@averyalexander2303]

If I had to choose between these two CPU's I'd take the Q6600 any day. Although overall performance seems similar in this testing, owning one of Intel's first quad cores is still way more badass than owning one of the first of a series of boring low end office CPUs.

[@Michael500ca]

I just realized that I have a spare Q9400, a G41 Gigabyte 775 mb and at least 2gb ddr2-6400 memory. I should do something with that.

[@cmdrgarbage1895]

2:00 game?

[@AssassinModerPL]

You are getting stutters on Q6600 because of Motherboards PCI-E gen 1.1 which limit the card. Also 1156 system can be upgraded to i5 and i7, 775 only tu QX which is not good idea.

[@commodore128d6]

Ehm... The QX6700 was earlier than the Q6600!

[@dabombinablemi6188]

One problem with 775 motherboards: More difficult to get 8GB of RAM running at any speed above 667MHz (at least, it was with my P5K VM, P5Q Turbo and P5Q Deluxe-the older P5K had greater success).

[@ronsevert2139]

What game was that in the beginning? Before Overwatch. . .

[@adolfazusa1138]

after 2 months of saving still only got around $30 and wishing that one day i could get a q6600+7970 rig...