THE FIRST MODERN WAR And The Origin Of GUERRILLA WARFARE | The Joe Rogan Experience

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THE FIRST MODERN WAR And The Origin Of GUERRILLA WARFARE | The Joe Rogan Experience #1957
Shane Gillis is a stand-up comedian and co-host of “Matt and Shane’s Secret Podcast”, also look for “Gilly and Keeves” sketches on KZbin, a new show created alongside John McKeever.
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Host: Joe Rogan @joerogan
Guest: Shane Gillis
Producer: Jamie Vernon @jamievernon
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LIKE, SHARE & SUBSCRIBE for new videos everyday 👉kzbin.info/door/WkLJgGBIqY9wsuEayeCkZwjoin THE FIRST MODERN WAR And The Origin Of GUERRILLA WARFARE | The Joe Rogan Experience #1957 Shane Gillis is a stand-up comedian and co-host of “Matt and Shane’s Secret Podcast”, also look for “Gilly and Keeves” sketches on KZbin, a new show created alongside John McKeever. Source: The Joe Rogan Experience @ www.spotify.com Host: Joe Rogan @joerogan Guest: Shane Gillis Producer: Jamie Vernon @jamievernon #jre #joerogan #thejoeroganexperience

[@shumwab]

One of my favorite things in the world is history story time with Shane. Hopefully one day he'll have a regular podcast solely dedicated to history.

[@yvngchance2343]

He does history episodes on his podcast , matt and shanes secret podcast , they have a vietnam episode , ww1 an i think American revolution

[@turtsable]

Drunk history needs him asap lol

[@seasonedbeefs]

Yeah he's knowledgeable for sure

[@raymondjack]

Or at least be a guest on christory history podcast

[@paintawaytheday420]

America needs this.

[@fishrenfroeboyd7954]

As a history guy myself only a couple years older than Shane I can say he surprised me when I first heard him talking some history on his podcast about a year ago. I could tell he knew more than regular people with small details or side facts or dates and names on different historical things and can describe them well. I started to listen to all his funny historical related segments after that

[@ComedyHub-dz7sm]

He got his bachelors degree in history

[@mattnoyzemusic]

he's a really good historian. I hope one day he gets a Netflix miniseries where he explains different wars, that would be great

[@justinbergeron5997]

Line formations was the best way to fight during musket warfare because muskets were so innacurate that concentrated volley fire was the only way to hit targets effictivily.

[@EliW95]

that's why the indigenous people were able to hold their own until repeating pistols and rifles were invented

[@rileypelzer5808]

@@EliW95plains Indians yes, coastal Indians no

[@eduardosuarez2414]

Also one of the reasons the civil war was so bloody, because rifled muskets started to become more common, but the tactics stayed the same. So you've got lines of guys just mowing each other down with accurate fire. Another interesting thing was repeating rifles like the Spencer were available at the time, but weren't widely adopted because they were relatively expensive to make, but also because supplies wouldn't have been able to keep up with the ability to blow all their rounds in a few minutes. Even when bolt action rifles became the thing, as late as the turn of the 20th century, the British doctrine was still to load and fire one round at a time, unless specifically ordered. It was only when motorized transport and supply became common that it was feasible to let soldiers start blasting at will, even though the technology had been around for decades.

[@Shootreadyaim141]

It's hilarious when people criticize musket lines because they never even think to consider, hey maybe if I line everyone up, it's a lot easier to keep them organized and communicate orders. Except those people probably have 0 idea of the chaos of war and can't understand why organization and communication were so important

[@wpjohn91]

Bit off a myth regarding muskets. There is quite a few vids of people with old smooth bore muskets hitting targets to a 100 yards

[@Tunda2]

History with Shane could be its own TV network

[@leftnutlarry24]

Military genius joe knows better than the world conquering empire. Line combat was what worked with the technology

[@TrollNova]

I think the guerrilla soldiers would disagree with you. As would 90% of people with a fully formed brain

[@carwyngriffiths]

@@TrollNovaI don’t think you know much about 18th century warfare at all mate. Biggest threat of the time was cavalry, if you’re spread out against cavalry you were cut down. The only way to stop them was forming square and using the bayonets to form walls horses refuse to run into a wall of bayonets. Also doesn’t mention the fact that due to the gunpowder of the time, it would have been impossible to organise any movements and distribute orders to individual formations. The colours and close formations provided that order. Again there’s a reason every power on earth adopted it. There were many major battles in Europe where one side used square and the other did not (the latter got annihilated). You’re not as intelligent as those who used these tactics to create major empires.

[@TrollNova]

@@carwyngriffiths alright. I admit defeat. Idk what you even said but your grammar and conviction inspired me to do actual research. I’ll come back soon with my findings

[@EliW95]

tell that to the indigenous people who held their own with bows and arrows and tomahawks for the longest time

[@leftnutlarry24]

@@EliW95 They literally didn’t hold their own. They hid in the woods and collapsed when civilisation expanded over them

[@williamharris7849]

Firepower, Joe. The shoulder to shoulder stuff had as much to do with countering a cavalry charge as anything else. They were cool with taking on infantry that way because they knew they could reload faster and their troops were tough. That toughness had a lot to do with how poor they were. To win the field of battle meant they could loot the dead.

[@joemungus6063]

and intimidation for sure

[@Mandatory-Fun]

To add: they chose bright uniforms that stuck out because after a few volleys the entire battlefield would be filled with smoke and you needed to be able to tell friend and foe in a moments notice since you wouldn’t see anyone till they were right up on you

[@LlamaXCrazer187]

😊

[@LlamaXCrazer187]

😊😊😊

[@jameswells554]

The Sun rose high on a barren land Where the thin Red line made a Military stand. There was sling-shot, chain-shot, grape-shot too; swords and bayonets thrusting through. Poor Johnny fell, but the day was won And the King is grateful to you But your Soldiering's done and they're sending you home Oh, poor Johnny what'll happen to you?

[@fellowtraveler852]

Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World is an excellent movie!

[@philb9521]

Most definitely, there are good KZbin vids about the movie, story, acting, cinematography etc

[@raffitorres1714]

Line formations were there for a reason; to protect infantry from cavalry. People weren’t dumb back then, it was the best way to fight with the technology.

[@xnadegod1053]

No that was square formation. Line formation did have a reason, not that though

[@orfeo793]

@@xnadegod1053 I mean it still helped immensely in dissuading an old timey cavalry charge though, as it would take a hell of a horse to charge straight into a wall of bayonets, let alone a square. Ofc cav could always flank, but usually a proper army would have their own reactionary cavalry and infantry ready to counter that

[@xnadegod1053]

@@orfeo793 First thing that comes up when you type cavalry vs line formation In addition, the line formation was extremely vulnerable to cavalry charges, from the flanks and rear, and these attacks usually resulted in the complete breakdown of cohesion and even destruction of the unit unless it was able to "form square". End quote. The line formation was used in order to maximize rate of fire and increase a soldiers chances of actually hitting something with such an inaccurate weapon. It wasn’t mobile enough to respond to cavalry charges and therefore cavalry could simply harass and isolate the line until it broke, leading to a route. If a line formation tried to turn to face cavalry they were rendering the line formation useless, because they were no longer matching an enemy line’s rate of fire or firepower. As far as reactionary infantry goes that’s simply not the case. Unless you were able to trap the cavalry in a pincer movement they were just too mobile to be caught by infantry. Opposing cavalry is definitely a factor but with the speed that cavalry operates at, repeated hit and run maneuvers would just result in the line infantry being whittled down, while the enemy cavalry chases a group that has already inflicted the damage they intended.

[@orfeo793]

@@xnadegod1053 For reactionary infantry I meant like units behind the main line (not always the case ofc) or units on the far sides of the line that could go on the defense in response to a cavalry flanking maneuver is all, but yes I agree with both of your points

[@makeminealargecognac]

You do NOT bolt cannons down on a boat. They would've capsized.

[@Nutterbutter123]

Dam. What did they do then? I don’t think I paid enough attention to the canons on pirates of the Caribbean

[@makeminealargecognac]

@@Nutterbutter123 lol. They were attached with ropes that allowed the cannons to move back to disperse the majority of the force.

[@bigrednolaccount6767]

@@makeminealargecognac I actually had no clue, this makes tons of sense. Thanks for sharing.

[@makeminealargecognac]

@@bigrednolaccount6767 you're welcome bud

[@marooner-martin2351]

Shoulder to shoulder makes a lot of sense once you hear Brandon F. Explain it. Basically the only focus was how much firepower they can put out in a single shot. Bright red was for commanders to be able to physically see the troops hundreds of yards away

[@rickwilliams967]

It never made sense at all. Spread out, it's a lot harder to hit you. It's always dumb, that's just how they did it then. Not art at all though.

[@carwyngriffiths]

@@rickwilliams967spreading out was the opposite of what you want. There’s a reason everyone adopted it. Cavalry was a the primary worry of the time, the only way to ensure everyone wasn’t cut down was to create large concentrated formations, and forming square from there. Horses refuse to run into a wall of bayonets, they will throw their rider off before they do. If commanders are unable to distinguish between their own forces and the enemy, it would result in a butchering. Primarily due to the smoke the gunpowder produced (this only really changed when smokeless gunpowder was introduced)

[@toastedt140]

​@carwyngriffiths People vastly underestimate how demoralizing and battle changing a well timed cavalry charge is. Winning armies have been routed in moments because of cavalry.

[@raffitorres1714]

@@rickwilliams967it’s also a lot harder to hit the enemy. Muskets weren’t accurate, so it was much more effective to concentrate firepower.

[@sharmoutha]

The fuck you on about the red coats? Red was because that dye was the cheapest

[@TurntBucket]

With melee weapons it makes more sense to fight in blocks. You try hiding in the trees and you'll get surrounded and picked off one by one as their block of soldiers sweep the forrest. Guns change that dynamic. Now you are fighting at range and can prevent yourself from being surrounded if you choose to engage. I suppose you could use similar guerilla tactics with bows but I am guessing since bows never outright replaced melee weapons it was more natural for militaries to use archers as support and have them use the same tactics of fighting in blocks. Since guns outright made melee weapons largerly obsolete it makes sense for the old tactics to remain but for more optimal tactics to be waiting to be discovered. It's not shocking at all. It's the natural process of society changing due to new techological advancements.

[@sylvester_stalin1194]

They stayed shoulder to shoulder chest high for many practical reasons. Organization, volley fire, and cavalry.

[@MattH-wg7ou]

The Swamp Fox, Francis Marion, was the man. From my neck of the woods. The 169th Fighter Wing at Shaw AFB in SC is known as "Swamp Fox" and we have the Francis Marion forest/preserve. Dude started western guerilla warfare.

[@damonday3451]

You mean he saw how natives fought and adapted?

[@koalasandwich4876]

Those uniforms HAD to be an attempt to curtail friendly fire.

[@MAGICCOFFEY]

I wish shane and joe had a history podcast with maybe Dan Carlin 😂

[@wilcox2146]

Joe adds nothing to these conversations, you can see Shane excited to talk about history and half the time Joe turns to "did you ever hear the WWII story about wolves..." No Joe on the history pod lmao

[@hdhdiditiggifolfifkf9604]

Shane has better sense of humor than Joe lmao

[@HittlahThaDolph]

Thank you captain obvious

[@JoeBlowtheLoverman]

So your racist...cool #meriKKKa

[@KenobiStark1]

Being a better comedian helps also haha Shane rules

[@zehsackett6132]

Joe tried to read an entire wikipedia article on sextons

[@Stereomonitor]

I've got a feeling that they both took mushrooms but Shane is a foot taller so they were on wavelengths

[@98Timothy]

Im named after francis marian and supposedly our linage goes back to him. He was a crazy man that wasnt the founder but used hit and run tactics thats really pissed off the red coats as it was seen as barbaric. The reason we used those tactics is because the natives were so affective with alot less firepower and people.

[@dmurphy1578]

Maritime captains still have to learn how to cel nav while is college. It’s hard. Lot of math. I don’t know how to do it but I’ve seen it done. GPS goes down if you lose power.

[@MattH-wg7ou]

We got an intro to CelNav in UCT/Nav School in the USAF. (UCT: Undergraduate CSO (Combat Systems Officer) Training) acronyms within acronyms... But yea it wasnt easy! Automatic systems for the win. But the projected loss of GPS satellites or the jamming of GPS signals (very low power and easy to jam) is a big problem in military ops and is a contingency that is definitely planned for.

[@troywehr4029]

That style of warfare is a hold over from the days of infantry like blocks vs calvary and what not from the medieval to the industrial Era. Best way to stop calvary was a pike block, they eventually added pike and shot with the advent of decent muskets. Young gotta think only a century before this armor would stop most musket balls.

[@thehappywerewolf]

Nelson,s surgen with Rodger Daltrey is about the best docudrama about sea warfare.

[@Mgalacticable]

Jesus, Joe. We're talking about pitched battles that are won or lost based on the ability of formations to maneuver quickly and for commanders to direct those maneuvers with precision. Tight formations put a lot of lead in a specific place at a specific time. Where the leads goes, the bad guys should be. What if the bad guys move? You maneuver to an advantageous position. If the bad guys disperse, then you march right up and grab their artillery. Who decides where the formations go? The commanders. So bright colored uniforms, distinguishable by accessory and pattern, made that job a lot easier. The costs outweigh the benefits when you're facing a Vickers machine gun with an effective range of 2,000 yards. That would be a "stupid way to fight," and the Italians demonstrated their stupidity in a field somewhere in 1917. After that, gray uniforms. The stupid stuff happens in transitionary periods. And even then, it's not stupidity as much as it is a lack of imagination. That's my take. I'm incorrect on several points, guaranteed. So, all said and done, I think what Joe Rogan is doing is valuable and fun to watch. If I talked on air for thousands of hours-that would be bad.

[@hnnsy]

95% of the time shane gillis mentions something bout history I google it and he is almost always correct. I take everything else any other podcaster says about history with a hefty bucket of salt.

[@joecha9746]

Back then, that was the gentlemanly way of fighting.

[@willbauman8967]

“But now we use gps which is way better” 😂😂😂

[@EPICFAILKING1]

Man, I keep seeing comments like "this guy needs a history show" his history is as good as what a 13 year old learns at middle school.

[@brookhouse3041]

This exchange 😭 Shane: You ever seen Master & Commander; you gotta dude, it’s so good Joe: I think I read an article about that movie…about why so many men are into that movie Shane: what did you read; did they say it’s gay Joe: No 😂 (starts laughing) Shane: Good 👍

[@evanboyd4359]

“I don’t know why that’s funny”😂😂😂😂

[@Cainb420]

The Scottish were using guerrilla warfare on the English over a thousand years ago. Scotlands army were all farmers with converted farm weapons so git and run was the only option.

[@mikecarroll3538]

Joe always talks about how dumb line formations were but it’s important to understand that line formations and volley fire were incredibly effective for hundreds of years, guns were super inaccurate so disciplined tight formations with high volumes of fire could hit targets much more consistently.

[@joshthrelfall2385]

The British didn't have the man power of France and Russia in Europe in the late 18th and early 19th century due to managing the empire. Wellington didn't even really lose a pitched battle in the peninsular (iberia) he beat napoleon's marshals and only retreated due to overextension and the end of the campaigning period (winter).

[@cheeks7050]

Shane should legit make a history podcast

[@williamparker2922]

cannon weren't bolted to the floor of a ship. they purposely had wheels so they could recoil upon being fired.

[@rockytoptom]

Joe's question, "How did you get from the Mongols to this?" Linear warfare has existed in one form or another for thousands of years, massing your muscle or massing your firepower. Alexander and then Rome perfected it in it's ancient form, the Mongols mastered the tactics of mass hit and run or massively overwhelming an opponent with mixed unit tactics before guns became the predominant infantry or cavalry weapon and Frederick the Great and then Napoleon perfected it in the ensuing age of the musket and artillery. The Civil War proved the rifle barreled musket, and of course modern artillery, to be too devestating a combination to continue modern linear warfare tactics but it still took the Franco Prussian War and then the truly mechanized Great War for the world to realize that the truest form of modern linear warfare was over, moving on to area or objective - focused combat but with smaller units deployed against one another over greater distances of separation. I love this stuff.

[@gromit0237]

The term loose canon came from when a canon was not secured on the early war ships ,...

[@EPICFAILKING1]

To answer Joe's question about why the Brits fought like this, the whole civilized world did at this point and had done for almost two hundred years. It's due to the limitation in technology, e.g. you cant fight the enemy unless you close distance, since smoothbore muskets are only so accurate after 20m or so, anything beyond that is a pure gamble. This is why volume of fire is important, if they skirmished all day they battles would last weeks or years even depending on the scale. The uniforms are loud and brash, so that chain of command may first of all identify there men, and second of all represent what country/ regiment/ unit type they are. Like a scarlet red tunic, with green shoulder tabs and collar/ cuff indicates light infantry, since the British army pioneered this avenue of warfare also, contrary to popular (American) belief.

[@smokingfast]

"I hate studies" 😂

[@alexandergosch8711]

It has nothing to do with your physical location. It is about reacting where you are in relation to where you started. Like if you are headed the right general direction, not pinpointing your location on the globe

[@user-sw8zi9op3q]

It is interesting how the British went from Celts and vikings to the Redcoats.

[@edgarmontelongo5981]

The Portuguese built their empire by firing canons until coastal nations submitted to them also guerilla warfare has always been a thing that was one of the strategies the German tribes used against the Roman’s

[@MrMicahBell]

The British Empire is the single greatest Force to Walk the earth. We are lucky they didn't want to genocide our rebel ass`s.

[@MatthewSparkman-bc9gq]

They were pretty damn close to joining the Confederates , century later..80 percent of the cotton from the deep south went to English textile mills.

[@martinsanchez4827]

Yeah I don't if it was the greatest single force, but it sure was one of the most influential forces. They clearly don't get the credit they deserve at this current moment.

[@MatthewSparkman-bc9gq]

@@martinsanchez4827 because we're the bad mean colonist.

[@gibranvanderhoven7456]

The South Africans fucked them up pretty bad in the Boer war right up until the British started burning their farms and throwing children and wives into concentration camps.

[@intoHeck1964]

My understanding is a sextant basically uses triangulation with the stars to find your location on a map. Doing it repeatedly allows you to figure out your heading

[@chrisforrend]

They didn't know any other way to fight. Blk powder weapons were new, and army's still only knew to assemble in groups the way they did with swords/shields.

[@gilbertoupton662]

Master and commander is actually based off books 🧐 Shane Gillis one Point 1

[@jackcawley8470]

Guerilla warfare was in the Art of War a book from the 6th century

[@jameswells554]

Mathematics pure and simple. You have to be able to do advanced Maths on the fly to do Celestial Navigation; the real boon to Britain's Naval Dominance was the accurate mechanical clock along with the Admiralty adopting Greenwich as the Prime Meridian.

[@user-qz1sj1ru3d]

They began the Civil War in the old style but by the end it was becoming trench warfare. Protecting the troopers became a priority as they operated.

[@davidtownsend6092]

They didn't bolt cannons to the boat. 15 20 30 40 cannons all shooting and bolted down would tear ship apart. They had wheels so they could roll back and be pushed forward after firing

[@mikeofthewoods]

Its about concentrating fire power

[@rd22.rd22]

The tool is used at any time to find your bearing.

[@joewilliams4153]

The British did actually have tactics 😂😂 and fighting in a line was done by everyone, mainly because muskets took so long to reload it was more effective to have someone behind that person with a loaded one so it was more of a chain fire effect

[@chaseboddicker3834]

Hasn’t guerrilla warfare been around for thousands of years just different time periods with unique tactics?

[@maxcopeland1740]

Somebody on the fleet needs to know how to navigate using a sextant what happens if gps somehow ceases to work

[@sethley2335]

It is crazy how historically inaccurate but hilarious this skit is XD

[@thearm-chaircornerman4101]

Wellington started using to lines against France’s columns 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@thearm-chaircornerman4101]

Two

[@ifearnothing0]

It’s amazing how much these guys had to threw with the cardio practices the must have had

[@karlchristie1856]

Pretty sure the first serious use of cannons on ships was employed by the British against the Spanish armada. Before that you had dudes in heavy armor trying to board each other!!! The thing with line warfare and muskets was that it made sense to them. They were used to it because it was a natural evolution of warfare, and their mindset acclimated to it. They started in like formations to counter cavalry. From there they added early muskets to the formation to break up other pike formations, and over time the musket took over the pike and everyone just carried those. That’s how line warfare came to be. Decades from now when it’s all drones they’re going to look at our current boots on the ground tactics and think that is reckless.

[@harrisonhamilton7653]

First guy who fired a cannon on a boat: fired, boat goes 900 meters in the other direction.

[@sofakingonmynuts1438]

Or the cannon blows up

[@benfranklin5335]

it's honestly annoying how much Joe likes the sound of his own voice

[@thehappywerewolf]

We still do March in a line 6 feet apart instead of single file like the Native Americans.

[@mattdaniel598]

The north star is always visible..

[@hookedentertainment9089]

Almost every comment is trashing Joe's war history knowledge and I love it

[@anonymouspsycho6972]

This isnt too suprising to me. A life before smart phones i swear directions were take a left at that building that looks shoeish then about 15 minutes down when the smell reaches a peak take a right, im 4 down on the right. Seeing the change from that to people complaining about siri saying a turn too late stars dont seem too wild.

[@joeydepriest]

Had a rough time with Zulu....

[@karlchristie1856]

Warfare is a constant cycle of technology taking a devastating toll until the tactics adapt. We see that in Ukraine. Right now there are hunter killer drones that the average ground pounder has no way to counter…

[@ChefJayAre]

this is absolutely just what dudes talk about, almost always

[@AliceInPantera]

It was a silly way to fight, but it was the only way to fight. A highly inaccurate wall of lead has to hit something, right?

[@City-Hunter]

During the 100 Years War in the Middle Ages, before he became the Marshall of France, Bertrand DuGuesclin applied guerilla warfare tactics throughout Broceliande forest in Brittany and Aquitania.

[@City-Hunter]

Once DuGuesclin and his men disguised as English soldiers, entered a fortress, then captured it without any casualties, took officers hostage for ransoms

[@breckenridgelong7692]

Whatever happens,we have got the Maxim gun, and they have not.

[@bryanduhart7218]

guerilla warfare has been in the world at least since thr roman period

[@l1m0b0at3]

didn't it get its name from when Hannibal was trying to hold whats Spain now from the Roman forces trying to take Hannibal's home while he was tearing up all of Italy. His brothers hired civilian forces from the Guerilla part of Spain and used hit and run tactics against the Romans

[@Taxskipper]

Joe never read Jared diamond. Go read some guns germs n steel

[@chillbeats4296]

The first 5 times Joe said "Sextant" I thought he said "Sex Den" 😅

[@HandleMyDee]

Don’t tell anyone mate

[@josephpotter7776]

We stopped doing that after the civil war. Russians were still doing it in WW2. The reason we stopped doing it is because its really bad when entire towns would have zero men after wars

[@arak5502]

There was always that kind of warfare. It didn't originate during the revolutionary war.

[@1rwjwith]

Wait a minute now! The BRITISH were not stupid , that mode of infantry tactic of MASSED FIREPOWER was exactly the same as every other EUROPEAN army. The Muskets were smooth bore high calibre weapons that were highly inaccurate beyond maybe 60 yards, the idea was to fire VOLLEYS at their opponent then charge with bayonets and the BRITISH actually stressed individual marksmanship more than other armies like the French. Also in the late 1700’s, 1775 to 1781 The BRITISH were nowhere near fighting the ZULUS..IT HAD NOT HAPPENED YET! That was in the late 1800’s , 1875-1890 . The Americans in many battles used the exact same massed fire…line up and fire tactics as the British..most battles especially early on were won by the British…The American Revolution succeeded largely because of FRENCH INTERVENTION in the War…including their navy…a sizable French army was at the last major battle YORKTOWN in 1781, with 😊GEORGE WASHINGTON’S army of American Regulars and they weren’t fighting “Guerilla” style. It occurred of course but usually with troops like those at KINGS MOUNTAIN the South Carolina battle where American irregulars riflemen decimated British regulars….Anyway just chiming in!

[@ericmims]

4 poor guys 😂😂😂 operating it

[@tribuneoftheplebes7345]

If ur spread out with horses your toast that’s why they marched together

[@turdle2767]

Crazy. The answer to all their dumbass questions is literally discipline.

[@thecheshirecat299]

They would just throw numbers and guns at other armies

[@muglypunt968]

This isn't remotely true

[@maddg7471]

The colonists learned guerrilla warfare from the Native Americans.

[@williamcabell142]

Two teams I hate…the Eagles, and ND🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@matth7448]

Well they obviously fought that way because it worked....

[@jackcawley8470]

French were the first to use trench warfare in the 17th century

[@inyourgranmaass3605]

Joe rogans so boring when he talks but when shane talks is interesting

[@Cheekychappy36]

Joe is a very smart guy, except when it comes to warfare.

[@justinhill2378]

In defense of Joe, he's right. GPS is way better.

[@DLites151]

If Shivaji is not mentioned in a guerilla warfare clip, then it is bogus.

[@justinbergeron5997]

Lmao chill there are many more examples of guerillas in the western world that would come to mind to an american mind before indian history which is barely tought in Northern America.

[@DLites151]

@@justinbergeron5997 Right, and therefore it is bogus. Ignorance does not save you.

[@Sludgedump]

​@@DLites151 nobody cares about the history of india. You guys shit in piles on your streets lol

[@HellsYeah8]

@@DLites151 Unlike you, we were never conquered by tea swilling limeys. Your country was arbitrarily created when the British gave you independence. We created ours.

[@jonathanstafford3383]

Wkuk … had a hilarious sketch on this why Britain lost America

[@onequickthing8950]

It's so awesome. We invented viet nam.

[@andrewpavone5429]

A good video but lots of swings and misses.

[@speedball5066]

Idk ask a brit why the Whitehouse is white

[@bennyc409]

Joe really talks so much nonsense. He knows so a little about topics but just proselytises.

[@AUSTINHARDY-bi4rh]

joe knows just a little bit about everything

[@tonybryant2905]

You try to sound intelligent but im the end your stupidity shows

[@vagabond57097]

@@AUSTINHARDY-bi4rh That's why he's so good at his job

[@clipsdaily101]

i bet you he has a far broader knowledge than you lol

[@CB-dl1vg]

He’s a podcaster not a professor, that’s what a podcast is, just a convo about shit you find interesting

[@molsonmuscle613]

didnt natives practiced gorilla warfare long before the revolutionary war? so more like they copied their tactics? asking for a friend

[@manfrombritain6816]

the British won this style of warfare because British infantry basically had bigger balls. other armies would shoot first, from further away, missing more. they would also stand their ground in 2 ranks whereas other armies like the french had to have more ranks (even march in column) to avoid men routing. this allowed the British to bring more rifles to bear Also shane, typically American, is talking pure shite. the British did very well in land battles, fought other colonial powers a ton, and many of the people they colonised had plenty of guns and advanced tactics. the zulus had more guns than the British... Americans just seem permanently upset about Britain being awesome...? they never even know their history when it comes to how they only exist because of france

[@brandoniwabo2558]

how the fuck is joe rogan a "comic"?

[@Lufcpudding]

What total BS we didn’t always lose land battles we beat the french multiple times on land and we never even had a conflict with Prussia… this guy doesn’t know his history

[@kHeller181]

Joe is so high and fucked up here lol

[@EPICFAILKING1]

Americans are so frustrating, if they did it, it's the first time ever that anyone has done it. Bro, the British and French were utilising guerilla warfare back in 1756, before American independence was even an idea, and using trenches pre-dates the US Civil War by far. Plus, not to mention the trenches used BY THE WORLD FOR MILLENIUM AT THAT POINT were completely different to the ones used in WW1. The Brits and Germans pioneered this during WWI, going from simple lines of defense to intricate networks of trench systems that each served a different purpose but were combined by interconnected paths, designed in a way to minimize death/ injury from shell fire/ shrapnel.

[@ryanhanna1375]

Does Joe pretend to be stupid? Wtf is he doing? Lol

[@tommcfadden5232]

It’s the dope he smokes