The First Steps to Find Love with Matthew Hussey | A Bit of Optimism Podcast

[@thematthewhussey]

Loved this conversation Simon, thank you for having me on. And thanks to everyone for watching!

[@katarzynalindner594]

Great talk. Two sensitive and wise guys❤

[@IntuiviteWellnessRituals]

Thank you for being you and continuing to be vulnerable. This was so helpful to me today as I am understanding something more deeply about myself through something that was said that was hurtful to me and yet some how it’s becoming the greatest gift and creating more freedom for me to love and be loved more authentically. So many things you said I appreciated and made me curious about. The one that stands out the most is how you said and suggested the question in being curious about just for today how do I take care of Sonia? (my understanding and interpretation 😉) Thank you so much ❤ Hugs 🤗 to you and Audrey 😊

[@asah5825]

What a brilliant conversation to listen to! I loved every minute of it. ❤

[@unknownanonymous4735]

two gurus , two GOD 😍😍

[@MrsGadi]

49:41 : I loved the point you made about self-love. It’s also an idea that feels a bit illogical. You hear about it everywhere, but does anyone really know what it means? When I tell myself, “I love myself,” it feels so weird, lol. But when I say, “I take care of myself,” that sounds much more coherent to me and I like that feeling :) S.

[@BetterBelief]

The day when Matthew Hussey and Simon Sinek get together is a day when history is made ❤ I owe my career to Simon Sinek and my happy relationship to Matthew

[@jylbek71]

We need a story please!

[@BetterBelief]

@@jylbek71how long have you got 😂 it may have to be another interview…

[@tiffanyolson4565]

AMEN!!!❤

[@jylbek71]

@@BetterBeliefas long as you need, dear! I’m all ears!! Seriously, love to hear people’s stories - life is amazing and so are the stories of people! ❤

[@BetterBelief]

@ I might make it the topic of my next KZbin video! Stay tuned!

[@MicheleComeau]

Simon's genuine discomfort and open vulnerability about his past was by far what made this a new favourite episode. Authenticity is where it's at!

[@177DNAtlanta]

I love how Mathew has matured over the years. It's really nice to watch how much calmer he has become and how much slower his reactions have become to the things he picks up. I wish you all the best in your married life. She must be an awesome person for you❤

[@elisefaris7595]

The opening story regarding the woman in her 60's triggered instant tears. This is so relatable. I appreciate the work you are doing.

[@slangoftheregions]

Same

[@saliexplore3094]

The primary job you're given is to take care of yourself (context here is self-love). The section 45:04 Romance vs. self-love was on point!

[@nuranur4093]

Matthew is very deep as usual: “We gravitate towards people who satisfy our Ego; not those who actually make us happy”.

[@DignifiedKnight]

Great podcast Simon. I believe the huge problem with society rn is that there is an institutionalized impatience, that we are living in a world of instant gratification where people believe they can get whatever they want instantly like for Amazon, binge watching tv shows and Instagram. Relationships, friendships and human connections are a slow, meandering and uncomfortable process and it takes time to develop and learn the fundamental skills

[@jpfigue]

100%

[@carls-95]

Facts 💯

[@jessicahitchens6926]

Infantilsation!!

[@Rnatividad121]

💯💯

[@hrj2655]

So true@DignifiedKnight! Any ways to improve the impatience? Any books/podcasts/exercise?

[@hahpark]

There's so much sensitivity and kindness here. I think this should be marketed to uplifting sensitive guys. How sensitive guys can be friends with other sensitive, nice guys. ❤❤❤ Not everyone is your enemy. Just my opinion 😊

[@christopherperrella5090]

Beautifully said. It felt like exactly that, from a sensitive guy.

[@kumudinicabandugama7038]

The best way to start any sort of relationship that will last starts from just a friendship. Just be friends and see if you can be with them as just a friend from there you will automatically know whether it will lead to anything more. Always works. You have to like someone before you love someone. 🙏

[@heroickyle7572]

Unfortunately, for someone like me who always tend to grow fond of someone after having a well established friendship, it always ends up with unrequited love.

[@lindsaymorrison7519]

The most intense crush of my life stemmed from that... And it led to unrequited love for me too. Such an intense one that it took me years to process and relatively move on from. By the time I finally did, I reached an age in life and work where it's incredibly rare to form new friendships at all, much less hang out with those friends regularly enough to evaluate character, consistency, and deep friendship. I know so many beautiful marriages that began because of amazing friendships, but you cannot guarantee that every friendship is going to lead to that.

[@jessicahitchens6926]

No it doesn't. Men can not be your friend. They see everything transactionally.

[@jessicahitchens6926]

Very few marriages come from authentic friendships. A degree of attraction was always present on the mans side.

[@elinorvargas9473]

3 comments I wanted to add to a great conversation. 1. When you talked about counting the hug vs. feeling it. Like any other skill, you first start by thinking about it, until it becomes part of your nature and you feel it. When you feel it that’s when it becomes real. I had a singing coach tell me he never performs a song on stage until he sings it at least 100 times. Any performance of a song starts with an analysis then as you repeat it 100x, your body remembers the technical part and you don’t think about it anymore. Then the magic happens and you start to feel it. That’s when it becomes real and affects the audience. They feel it when you feel it. And the best part of that is that it doesn’t have to be technically perfect, the imperfections become part of your originality and character. 2. Lessons-our spirit and maturity grows by learning lessons, some big some very nuanced. If you’ve mastered that lesson, whatever it is, it will no longer bother you - like if someone points out an insecurity. So when we meet people you are instinctively drawn to, and then something is off… ask yourself what lesson is this person teaching me and don’t take it so personally. Understand that this person is mirroring something for you to learn. Analyze it and understand it. This is one very tough lesson I had to learn, to not take things so personally, still gets me sometimes, but the universe will keep testing you. 3. Investing- I’m a giver without judgement or expectation, but that was also a tough lesson to not over give. There is a nuance though…to my close family and friends I will give without expectation of anything in return as long as it’s helping them (not enabling a bad habit) and they must also be in a mindset to help themselves. It makes me feel good to give that unconditional love and support. With the rest of the world… I will give and be generous of heart without judgement in places I choose to give (work, general friend groups etc…) but at some point I pull back to assess if the effort is worth my time and resources and if they are giving back as well not only taking. If there is no reciprocity, I strongly consider not investing anymore or doing something different. A great line someone told me is - you have to have boundaries about how much you give, because the taker has no limits or boundaries. Thanks Simon for all the great conversation you’ve posted on leadership and other topics, I always learn a lot by listening!

[@尹千]

❤thank you for your sharing ❤

[@youvelookedbetter]

Do you have a timestamp for the hug part? I can relate to what you mentioned here in your comment but would like to watch the segment :)

[@stephguess7114]

I love the face Simon makes at 16:05 🤣 When you grew up in a toxic family, you know exactly what Matthew is talking about. I loved to see that there are people who don´t understand how toxicity can subconsciously be the familiarity some people are gravitating to

[@aja363]

What an insightful talk! Esp the following aspects: 1. Power of Gratitude - Changing the perception from FOMO to truly cherishing what you have!!👏 2. Concept of 'We'- investing in each other, valuing the home over the land/house. 3. Loving oneself unconditionally. To this, I would also like to add - being willing to work on one's insecurity in the relationship, considering it as a potential area for improvement.

[@Mary-Mar]

Two men who are great feelers and thinkers. What an awesome duo! Wonderful conversation with so many useful take-aways!

[@manimer111]

I just made my husband listen to the “What’re you thinking” part because he gave me a “nothing” answer yet again. I’m sensing we’re gonna have a seismic shift in our conversational quality from now on. Thanks gentlemen 😄

[@ESyta-ti7hs]

I’m so happy Simon has this podcast, I’ve been a fan of his since he had courage admitting to feeling sad/lonely and emphasising that we’re social creatures in someone else’s podcast. Thank you for sticking to the reality

[@napatlertthanaphol557]

I've just discovered that the feelings when you feel at ease or at home is when you truly act like yourself the most. The more you are honest with your feelings and thoughts and promises, the more true you are. If that person doesn't allow you to be who you are, how come you can feel at home. Even with yourself, if you are not true to yourself, lying about how you feel even to yourself, do you feel at home?

[@rizalarifin2742]

😢 true… butt i cant move on…

[@napatlertthanaphol557]

@@rizalarifin2742 I couldn't either until my ex moved on and got a new bf. At the moment I found out, I realized that her life is hers now, and my life is mine. There is no point to keep thinking about what could have been done differently anymore. So, I started to dig deep into my emotions about how I felt and why I felt it (what's the trigger). I have been honest with myself and identified what I really need. With that behavior, things were not easier, but I felt like I got my real me back and was capable of handling any life crisis. I love myself more by not putting myself at risk and trying my best not to miss any promise I made to myself. I still feel lonely sometimes though, but I was lucky to have honest friends who believe in me. I hope it inspires you one way or another.

[@IntuiviteWellnessRituals]

Thank you Simon for your questions, curiosity, vulnerability and courage to have this conversation. It was immensely helpful to me at this time as I could see myself doing these things too and it opened up space in my heart to have more compassion and confidence to relax and not take myself too seriously 😊 This is my first time hearing either of you speak and what a delight it was to my day to be a part of this conversation. Thank you again 🙏🤸‍♂️🛼💃 Sonia

[@RanP1974]

45:06 - absolutely LOVE the whole section about taking care of your human as an alternative model for loving yourself! Thank you Matthew and Simon 😊

[@hrj2655]

So good to see both men vulnerable, honest and wise together.

[@TitiR-j3g]

Yes please make a 9 series simon-matthew episode. Loving this!

[@alaaaboud5445]

Both are incredible mentors with brilliant minds-having them sit together is like putting Einstein and Tesla in a room

[@Claudia-xq4rm]

Matthew as always he is so sweet and in every event of him that I have been he is always so uplifting. I am sure made Simon’s day and left him with a smile of his face. 😊

[@fidelmaclifton1723]

Loved this conversation.I am happily married for 43 years, and despite what life threw our way, we were all in for each other and it felt natural. Looking back, I agree with what Matthew said about compatibility, it is important, as it allows you the room to respect and support each other through phases in life.. Life is messy, so when you do it with your best pal where you find comfort, laugh and have each others back there is a lot to be grateful for, that is the feeling of home/safe place.

[@charli4815]

i am 30 and i feel the woman he talks about in the beginning. i know i have some time, but you never know when your last day is. and i dont want to life a single life when i am the best version of myself now

[@Callitout-kl1uq]

As someone who is in her 50s, just don’t settle. Date as much as you can to find the right man now; they just aren’t around at my age. All my female friends are single in their 50s. Far too few good men left.

[@jessicahitchens6926]

Your 30.. so young and gullible. Your 30s are the most important decade. You fully mature depending on the work you do... not everyone does.

[@jessicahitchens6926]

There are very few in your 30s. Once you get past 35 forget it 🤣

[@danielwenkel4410]

i just learned that i myself am projecting "a level of safety that i dont have" - Thank you so much about that. I just love your work and views and it helps me in my current situation so much. Just Thank you!

[@JoVelvet]

My relationship now started very chaotic as I have deep fundamental issues on unhappiness. My partner has gone through all the chaos with me but remained understanding while constantly helping me with these issues even when I hurt him sometimes. All people have issues and it's precious to find people who care enough to see you beyond the brokenness you feel you are now, the work in progress in you. This conversation was very insightful. Thanks for this!! 🙏♥️

[@Chrismontt]

To get to listen to these 2 amazing people on the same podcast is so refreshing and being a fan of both of them is just what I expected from them... thank you

[@solomiiabutkovska]

Great one. Especially “this human is yours, take care of it” 🙏🏻

[@carsonau]

I have followed Simon for a long time, read all his books, it's absolutely amazing to hear him share his vulnerabilities which i also have. Around 20:00

[@EFLDebate]

Was thrilled to see this as a podcast! Simon and Matthew are two of my favourites. I like that Simon challenges people on certain concepts, and broadcasts the question marks as well as the endorsements. It almost feels like a sign of how much he respects the other person when he does that

[@globalana8951]

Simon is adorable. For sure the “kind” type

[@pinkskies8083]

The very first question Matthew addressed (the pain of wanting love)... is very present for me and has been for... a few years now. Thank you for this interview.

[@Claudia-xq4rm]

My two favourite people. I have followed both of you for many years. What a combo. Love it!!!❤❤

[@mschinab.6300]

This is the most vulnerable Simon Sinek I have ever seen him. He is genuinely listening to Matthew as a “consumer” than a host. Amazing Im in love 😅

[@lynnmillard1666]

I’ve learned it takes time to really get to know somebody. We all naturally put the best foot forward until we feel safe enough to let somebody see everything, to let somebody know everything. For me, I wanted to learn to be the same person all the time so that somebody would get to know all of me quicker, the authentic me. I’ve also learned it’s not who you can live with, it’s who you can’t live without and honestly, I haven’t met that person yet. I plan to stay single until I do.

[@gabrielaalat113]

I would love an interview of Simon with Esther Perel

[@CloMcMack]

YES! Finally, someone who feels like I feel about bucket lists. I never expressed it in that same way, but I like how you laid that out Simon. For me, that whole idea was ridiculous.

[@susanmatenga9792]

FYI Simon - Pointing the remote control the other way still works because the mechanism/beam bounces back to the TV. Great conversation by the way. Love you both.

[@annallfrey7289]

Loved this and really really needed to hear this conversation right now. The reverse bucket list and the one job I have is to look after this human inspired me today. I’m going through a divorce, my finances after a lifetime of working hard are in the toilet and I’m lonely as hell though I won’t let anyone near me but this helped me today. Thank you.

[@NS-xt5wv]

21:51 people need to just CHILL and stop overthinking, take someone who you like and who likes you back and JUST make it work, that’s the right person to you. Not the calming, not the adventurous or whatever characteristic they bring in, they just must be able to make it WORK.

[@ilariapoddine]

32:30 some people has it right by instinct (an instinct generated by education and imitation of what we saw until now). But old instincts can be trained and substituted with new ones, before you interiorize them and make them yours. And it's during this sort of training when you are "tecnical", when you count the seconds of the hug. But once you interiorized it, when you master it, is when you can stop counting and you can start enjoying it and expressing it in total authenticity. So happy to see the both of you together!!! ❤

[@anakacarova9646]

My two favorite people/minds/hearts together ❤️ Thank you for sharing yourself with the world!

[@naushinhusain5488]

Loved this convo, so needed in this day and age! laughed out loud with Simon paused and said he regrets having Matthew on the show as its causing him stress! The ah ha moment when you realise that your former thinking around love and relationships is being challenged! beautiful convo between two very progressive forward thinking men, bravo

[@SedonaVonGeczy-Hamberlin]

Literally while watching this podcast an un-healthy person who I kind of talked to but then realized was not fit for more than friends texted. The sincronicicty is crazy. Now I value myself way too much to engage in a deep way. I'm waiting for the right person who meets my standards. And by waiting I mean going out and flirting with guys.😂 Thanks guys for the amazing advice!

[@fateom]

i find both of your ways of being vulnerable so inspiring...Thank you from my heart...to see so much compassion towards one s healing proces is so loving...

[@missk7126]

Love the concept of the reverse bucket list... Thank you for the idea, Simon! 👌🏾

[@MrsGadi]

I believe that the right person is someone whose energy complements yours. Someone with whom you feel at peace..Someone with whom you can be truly and authentically yourself. Someone who stands besides you and encourages you to nurture and flourish into the best version of yourself 🌿🌸 S.

[@Psych-ewiz]

I love how Matthew unsettled Simon into thinking about himself . 😊 this is a lovely conversation. I can take lots from here... 'opportunities, kind, character, consistency, empathy, and Simon's 'I want to feel that way too.' I always end up making ppl feel good but wonder if they like being with me too. Thanks for the video.

[@geoffvalero3516]

Simon and Matthew...thankyou.. your work has changed the trajectory of my life..

[@ArtArcanus]

Simon, i may never meet you but i love you. You are so very good at being a person. Keep being you.

[@pameladeniselong]

Excellent conversation❣️This is the Bromance I didn’t know I needed. Appreciate the insight about your one job…

[@cathywoo44]

One of the best, candid talks. Thank you

[@marilynoverton8142]

I love the wisdom and vulnerability of this interview, Thank you so much!

[@FrankieTurner-n2k]

Matthew has a kind heart

[@AnEagle1900]

I cant stop listening to this. It resonates so well with my own experience. Simon your podcast is such an inspiration

[@serenangel]

I know I am married, and I love my husband. But I can't shake the feeling it would be amazing to know and connect with you, Simon! Just to have that complementary grow part of my life...

[@zoyasuslova3144]

It was such a treat this convo! Such a treat ❤🙏

[@payeldutta4014]

Please have more of these conversations!! This has been so insightful!! Thank you!!🎉❤

[@aweartswellnessexperience4387]

I so appreciate this conversation that you have shared with all of us. It is tremendously helpful and gives me permission and validation to continue to be me- Vulnerable, filled with love, and able to continue on my true path in love and life. Grateful for your help and reminders ❤

[@One.Chantz]

Great, great conversation. Thank you for sharing guys

[@anzelleduplessis1718]

Simon so empowering as always Matthew treasure yr amazing input . All true, each have their own style .I'm 68 single woman , unconventional since a child..never married no children. No regrets ,had enough opportunities. And at 68 yrs I still believe one day Ill meet and get married, being on the same page. How does this resonate,, what do you guys think ? Time decide Who we meet.! Heart decide who you Want ! Your mind decide who Stay in your life. And then to close : chemistry, intellect, transparent communication , honesty Love and Light to you two.❤❤

[@ld7553]

Really appreciate every second of this interview! Most of all, countless people have told me I need to love myself before I find love. I’ve put off a love life to work on myself, and progress is slow! 😂 I think this is an isolating concept that could have no end. Second, taking care of my human! I’ve never heard it put this way and honestly it is the best piece of advice and framing I’ve ever heard. Really what I needed to hear. Thank you both ❤

[@VeroniquePierre]

So glad you two reunited. And what you mentioned about him being true, humble, etc. is all the same for you 🙏🏽

[@RubySlippers720]

I didn't expect to Resonate so strongly with this conversation in the background as I put up my Christmas Tree.... I had to Stop and Watch. Intellectualizing the Emotional component of Human interactions 🎯 Soooo true

[@robpatterson8515]

I adore both of these dudes. What a combo. GREAT episode. Thank you :)

[@MyFriendlyUniverse-x5h]

0:23 I did that 41 years ago. I fully invested in someone who was fully invested in me and still is. And being a woman in my 60s and having someone next to me for all these years, I still feel like this woman 2:51 asking how to kill the desire to find love.

[@wearmywit5606]

Wow. I have heard that from someone else.

[@louisetanner3232]

One of the best podcasts I’ve seen. Thank you both.

[@Maya_Unplugged]

What birthday present to me! 😍 Today was supposed to be my best birthday since ever: new job, new village, new apartment. A long overdued reset in my life. But… Life is a bitch. This morning I learned, that Blacky - my cat - has gone forever… I packed my belonging moved in with tears in my new home. Only Queeny (Blacky’s mother cat) and me. I did spend my birthday greaving on the sofa between unpacked boxes and a huge amount of potato crisps and chocolate croissants… Feeling miserable, mentally not fit at al. Because of new area no friends around to spend my birthday with today… And no one to sit in the mud with me. And then… The youtube algo gave me a birthday present! Two of my most important inspirers together! 🤩 As a sigma female I always struggled to talk to men and I never knew how to find my place, because I never fit in. You two had a huge impact on my personal development and inner growth. THANK YOU TWO SOOO MUCH! 😊 And gues what: I paused the video, got my *ss up and prepared the meal I had planned for today, to celebrate my new live on the first evening in my new home: Melted camembert in the oven, baguette with herbal butter and greek style joghurt with mango for dessert and glas of white wine. Chears to you two and me. Happy birthday, Maya and all the best for our new life. Blacky RIP Dinner is ready, now I start the video and will sit in the mud with you two remote and my beloved queeny on my lap… 🥂 With lots of love from Vienna, Maya

[@cristinawu6572]

Happy birthday, Maya. All the best to a new chapter in your life.

[@sujatasadanand2375]

Happy birthday 🎉

[@C.Oakley]

Thank you for having this conversation, it gives me hope and a new perspective on the future.

[@deeandleaann]

Great interview. Great insights. Many times we know the answer to whether or not to text or chase someone, but truthfully we don't want to accept the answer because it isn't the answer we want. The ultimate question is, "Why is that?"

[@jrubidoobidoo]

I absolutely love the two of you together… Talk about great chemistry!🥰

[@flawedfabulouswithbobbie9662]

✨OMG, what an incredible privilege listening to two of my favorite speakers in one place 🙌 You both have been such an integral part in my healing journey! 🎉 THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR AUTHENTICITY 💖

[@Brian-rs4ug]

If we are looking for a partner to complete us in this life, we are headed down a slippery slope. If we are at peace with our singleness and looking for someone to complement us, success in relationship is a viable goal. Certainly easier said than done.

[@SaraSpruth]

What a fun and genuine discussion! Thank you both❤❤ The kind of dialogue you want to continue all day while walking the streets and sharing a meal. I really appreciate you both sharing your gifts with the world. 🙏🏼

[@harmonylifewithjess1593]

Being oneself with yourself is naturally best for everyone. Overthinking derails us

[@ayamavii1]

You have no idea how much i love you both and read ur books guys, that's amazing 🤍

[@ancientwisdom108]

Two beautiful men, having a profound and meaningful conversation. Yes, please do it again. Love and many thanks from Florida... 🙏🌍🕊💜

[@benhounslow9980]

We make a good team together - compatibility ❤

[@AkeSatia1]

Thrilling episode! If love is a game, it is the ultimate infinite game - Your jam :) Partner selection, teaming, growth, conflict resolution, communication, and fun, all matter. You know, Eva Gabor said, "Love is a game that two can play, and both can win." Or dare we say, for the game to continue, two must win. Very dynamic conversation! Thank you for sharing.

[@monikapfingstl1387]

Awesome and honest chat between two successful, good hearted men - thanks for this. I just want to say that not everyone finds love in this life. I think it's just a reality. For some reason I did not find a long-term partner and which I feel will make me sad for the rest of my life just like this woman. I gave up hope because keeping up hope and not getting it is just too painful over the time. it's real to feel that way. And everyone tries to comfort you by saying it's better to be alone than in a bad relationship. Well not helpful - as I don't compare to bad relationships. I don't know how to think about this other than to just accept that's what my life is.

[@nadjavranken4965]

50 minutes+....soooow frofound and helpful ❤

[@Judith369]

Love this talk, I really appreciate both your authenticity. If I saw you both in a context "nice bar with a fireplace", I would be drawn to join the conversation because I don't feel distance to us as listeners. That in itself is a social skill. Thanks guys, good talk.

[@snowdrops-and-ivy]

So many gems in this episode! Heartfelt and comforting to listen to you both speak from your hearts 🙏

[@passerby5735]

The first 3 seconds were exactly what I needed to hear.

[@margaritapasko1517]

Guys you should make the series. I can listen for this conversation forever♾️

[@GuidetteExpert]

I can so relate to the more attracted I am to the person the more I avoid the person :'D. Practicing on looking at the person like a friend, doing activities we both enjoy and try to know the person. Not always assume they dont like you because they dont even know you to beggin with and love takes time.

[@DianeO-369]

I wish I could have been in the middle of these two, lol !!! I can relate on so many issues !!❤!! Love this!! Tickled to pieces!! Simon completely there!! Matthew you're awesome and blessed you found your partner♡ ❤ everything is still possible ... I agree, I have a contentment and happiness, because of what I have weathered and the relationships I have enjoyed ... and yes, a partner can show you what can be different! ❤

[@tetmartin3366]

Absolutely a delightful conversation btwn these 2 amazing men. I would have loved a longer conversation between you two 🎉

[@asalane20]

These two men are such a beautiful, intelligent contrast to the manosphere.

[@gabrielabutzer6353]

Enjoyed every minute of this conversation!

[@mohsinkazi1531]

I absolutely love your work Simon Sinek, and the energy and authenticity with which you present yourself to the world

[@marie-andreehueglin9051]

So many moments that resonnate with me. Thank you and shine on!!!

[@simranmadan5827]

Two of the most amazing people in one frame!

[@malinatorres981]

Thank you for talking about self love in a way that actually makes sense.

[@Productivity_videos]

omg, this is just amazing final for this episode about how to find the best person for yourself with this discussion about „the most important job - to take responsibility and care of my human with great love ❤ „

[@ikhlasabdulmoula6640]

I just finished the episode and I'm smiling and thinking, what a spectacular episode,I really hope to see guys again😌❤️🔥🔥

[@scopeunlimited17]

So much fun, thank you both! Absolutely agree that you can love someone and be a team without having done aaalllll the work and loving yourself unconditionally. Gawd, we’d never find our person! I still haven’t 🤣

[@shanesemathis5568]

Lots of wisdom in this short podcast! I would love for you two to collaborate again!

[@pada5992]

I loved every minute of this. Both of you never fail to restore my hope for humanity. Thank you so much. Could you have Alison A. Armstrong on for this topic? Oh and Dr John Gray and his daughter. I would love to see how they build on this wonderful talk.