The First Viking Kingdom in Frisia? | History of the Netherlands 826 - 852 AD

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History With Hilbert

3 жыл бұрын

The Vikings are famous for their colonies in Britain and Ireland, like the Danelaw around York and of course the now capital of Ireland Dublin, not to mention Normandy in Northern France that still bears their name after its foundation by Rollo or Hrolf De Gange. But somewhere that doesn't get a lot of attention in the Viking Age is the Netherlands, known as Frisia during this time, even though they have a fascinating Viking Age History of their own from Holland to Friesland. In this video I'll be talking about the start of a Viking kingdom in Frisia with the very first benefice of the Danish King Harald Klak around Rüstringen in East Frisia, and the implications of this for how we view the identity of those living in the Netherlands of over a thousand years ago.
This video is being made in connection with the Leeuwarden Cultural Capital 2028 Project and is part of a series on the Viking Age in the Netherlands that will be hosted here on my channel History With Hilbert.
Music Kindly Provided By:
Baldrs Draumar:
www.baldrsdraumar.com/
Danheim:
danheimmusic.com/
Mentioned Videos:
The Start of the Viking Age in the Netherlands:
• How Did the Viking Age...
Were the Normans Viking or French?
• How did the Vikings Be...
Related Videos of Mine:
Why Did the Viking Age Begin?
• Why Did The Viking Age...
Why Didn't The Vikings Colonise North America?
• Why Didn't the Vikings...
The Netherlands, Holland & The Low Countries:
• The Netherlands, Holla...
How to Tell Apart Dutch, Afrikaans & Frisian:
• How to tell apart Dutc...
What is the Frisian Heart Sumbol?
• What is this Symbol? -...
The History of the Vikings in England:
• The History of the Vik...
The Frisians in Beowulf:
• The Frisians in Beowul...
Why Did the Frisians Conquer Rome?
• Why Did the Frisians C...
Viking Age Helmets:
• Why Do We Know So Litt...
Further Reading:
Online:
Central Because Liminal: Frisia in a Viking Age North Sea World - Nelleke IJssennagger:
www.rug.nl/research/portal/en...
Books:
Luit van der Tuuk - De Friezen
Luit van der Tuuk - Noormannen in de Lage Landen
Nelleke IJssennagger & John Hines - Frisians and their North Sea Neighbours
Articles:
Simon Coupland - Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea: Hoards in Ninth Century Frisia
Simon Coupland - From Poachers To Gamekeepers: Scandinavian Warlords and Carolingian Kings
Primary Sources:
Annals of St Bertin
Annals of Xanten
Annals of Fulda
Frankish Annals
Beowulf
Life of St Boniface
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Music Used:
Baldrs Draumar - Ferbline, Ferballe
Baldrs Draumar - Fan Fryslans Ferline
Baldrs Draumar - Slag By Warns
Danheim - Heljarfor
Danheim - War of the North
Danheim - Folkvangr
Other music by Mozart, Kevin MacLeod and myself.
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@Weda01
@Weda01 3 жыл бұрын
For the ones who are interested, here are the translations of the Dutch texts (with time stamps): 2:12 "Many plundered riches were transported to Scandinavia, but eventually returned to the south through trade. This mainly benefited the "afflicted" Dorestad, because most of the trade between the Frankish Empire and the North ran ironically through this trading center. Northern trading places, such as Hedeby and Birka, also benefited greatly from overseas Viking activities. Even in times of great tension between Denmark and the Frankish Empire, the Frisian trade with Scandinavia continued as usual. This was not only in the interest of the Frisian merchants, but also of both the Frankish and the Danish rulers. Dorestad went down because of political decisions and not because of Viking attacks." 10:26 "The Frisians besieged the building and discussed what should be done to them. Different people had already said different things, when a Norman who had become a Christian and lived a long time among these Frisians and was the leader of their attack, spoke to the others as follows..."
@abcjuniormilton
@abcjuniormilton 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks alot man, there were no subtitles to translate the Dutch
@NYorksElcapitan
@NYorksElcapitan 3 жыл бұрын
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@jita6866
@jita6866 3 жыл бұрын
Ey du hast ja die interfriesische Flagge als Profilbild :D
@Weda01
@Weda01 3 жыл бұрын
@@jita6866 Wenn es nur die offizielle interfriesische Flagge wäre. Dies ist zehnmal besser als die Flagge, die der Interfriesische Rat jetzt hat. (entschuldigen Sie mein schlechtes Deutsch). :)
@Weda01
@Weda01 3 жыл бұрын
@@abcjuniormilton No problem :)
@HistoryTime
@HistoryTime 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the definitive book on early medieval Frisia you will inevitably write one day
@larson0014
@larson0014 3 жыл бұрын
Always flexing his language skills
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 3 жыл бұрын
You know me 😜
@aidanb9671
@aidanb9671 3 жыл бұрын
@@historywithhilbert146 are you from Friesland
@monakeulen5622
@monakeulen5622 Жыл бұрын
I envie him so much for it! It all sounds so beautiful! I wish I was that connected to my Frisian roots as he is.
@Seven71987
@Seven71987 Жыл бұрын
@@historywithhilbert146 DÁ DÜTCH NÖRSEMEN CAMETH FRÖM FRIESLAND!
@ludouvandermeulen7033
@ludouvandermeulen7033 4 ай бұрын
@@monakeulen5622i speak frisian since its my mother language and im firisna and live here but to me it sounds so weirddr
@bapo224
@bapo224 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Hilbert, I was wondering if you'd ever consider making a video about the decline of the Frisian language. I find that descriptions of this phenomenon are generally pretty vague. The first counts of Holland/Kennemerland were Frisian, but when did this change? Did the Frisians living here start speaking Low-Franconian (when?) or were they fully replaced by ethnic Franks? What about the people of Gelre and Oversticht? Sorry for the long message, but thanks for reading :)
@theobolt250
@theobolt250 3 жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 3 жыл бұрын
I'll look into this at some point - the answer is rather complex and not uniform in all places but it's very interesting!
@hansfaber8959
@hansfaber8959 3 жыл бұрын
In this post I made an effort to explain why the counts of (west) Frisia 'rebranded' themselves as Counts of Hol(d)land: www.frisiacoasttrail.com/post/2019/05/12/the-united-frisian-emirates-and-black-peat
@draphotube4315
@draphotube4315 2 жыл бұрын
@@hansfaber8959 Nice, read it through, wished the Netherlands (Frisia) still held on to Ostfriesland and Nordfriesland
@mrFriisman
@mrFriisman 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a Norwegian and my last name is Friis. I’ve read that it means "a person from Frisia". Got to check out my family tree!
@Weda01
@Weda01 3 жыл бұрын
I have searched a little bit for you and used your last name and narrowed it down to the Netherlands, it just happens to be that your last name isn't that common in the Netherlands so it was pretty easy to filter out. If you narrow it down to Friesland (Frisia) you will end up with 12 results from around the 15th and 16th century, and most of those 12 results are about the same family. And it happens to be that 3 of those 12 results show that they (at least these 3 people) moved to Bergen and Holmegard in Norway, so i would advice you to begin your search there and see if your ancestral lineage matches. Here are the links to the 3 persons i talked about: gw.geneanet.org/moemunthe?n=didrichsen+friis&oc=1&p=ulfart gw.geneanet.org/moemunthe?n=giertse+friis+14&oc=&p=didrich+ulfartson gw.geneanet.org/moemunthe?n=friis&oc=&p=nn+ulfartsdatter P.S: If you want to research more on this site i would advice you to make an account because this site will only show you limited data without an account, to make an account is completely free so that wouldn't be much of an issue.
@TheBarser
@TheBarser 3 жыл бұрын
Friis is very common in Denmark aswel. Dont know if it has anything to do with frisia
@TheBarser
@TheBarser 3 жыл бұрын
Now I had to google it: *Friis is a name of Danish origin, meaning Frisian person*. So yeah that is what it means
@BernardBakker
@BernardBakker 3 жыл бұрын
Weda Aesir Friis is indeed a very uncommon last name in the Netherlands. However, the Dutch surname ‘de Vries’ meaning, ‘Frisian’ is the third most common surname in the country.... BTW Friis and Vries are pronounced the same...
@moodyboobsjanna
@moodyboobsjanna 3 жыл бұрын
@@Weda01 that is amazing! You seem very versed in this type of research. I have just started my ancestry journey as well and I have been able to trace my grandmother's family back to the 1500s on many branches and they're all from Friesland. My grandfather is very dutch but they are from the Rotterdam area, also very far back. The genes are strong on my mothers side!
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 3 жыл бұрын
I keep learning more about Dutch history, you’re such a great educator
@Veriox22
@Veriox22 3 жыл бұрын
Yes lord kim he is a good teacher and you are an even better ruler
@nvwest
@nvwest 3 жыл бұрын
Better mic than Joost van Oort
@szlonkobusjbusj3819
@szlonkobusjbusj3819 3 жыл бұрын
Rüstringen and East Frisia are in Germany
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Glad you've been enjoying it!
@MindfulMilitant
@MindfulMilitant 3 жыл бұрын
How's your sister ?
@RaimoKangasniemi
@RaimoKangasniemi 3 жыл бұрын
Could we get a look at the very obscure period of Viking rule over Brittany for a few decades, until around 935, at some point in the future?
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 3 жыл бұрын
Once I do a series on France in the Viking Age then definitely!
@TdeSaint
@TdeSaint 3 жыл бұрын
I have to say, as a long time follower of your channel I cannot stress enough the amount of joy I feel for you finally discussing this topic at length in your videos. The announcement at the end, for a separate video about Rorik almost made me "HOERA!" out loud. Hartelijk dank!
@BellumCarroll
@BellumCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
We always mispronounce that viking guys name in Australia. He gets referred to every other sentence.
@bapo224
@bapo224 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty strange how Knut is so popular down there.
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing 😂😂
@johan8969
@johan8969 3 жыл бұрын
Your hypothesis surrounding the Frisian element in the Danish invasion of England is very interesting and has only cropped up a very few times, but is one I am almost certain occurred. Not only would it help explain the size of the force mustered, but given how close the danish benefices still were to the danish kings, it is very unlikely that they wouldnt be invited to take part in such an invasion. And as other people have mentioned, the seaways were much quicker back then so for a danish king operating in Ribe or Lejre, communication with Frisia would have been easier than say, communication with the Svea in Uppland who were more often than not their rivals. Maybe it wasnt more than 20 longships, but it help to show that by the time of the English invasion, the scandinavian kingdoms had already begun their expansion (same with Norway who had established themselves on Orkney). PS you forgot to add subtitles. The auto generated subs talk about car watermelons.
@hansfaber8959
@hansfaber8959 3 жыл бұрын
Joahn, here a bit more on as to why 'the Frisian element' ended up in England: www.frisiacoasttrail.com/post/2018/12/25/untitled
@-RXB-
@-RXB- Жыл бұрын
Car watermelons lol
@Kyasurin
@Kyasurin Жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading these videos as I never new much about this history before. When I did my 23andMe I found out that I largely have Dutch background which isn’t surprising especially as my dad was born there but I have about 14% Scandinavian. My surname is Jagt which is found more in The Netherlands but it’s the Danish spelling for the word “hunt”.
@Luukupuuk
@Luukupuuk Жыл бұрын
in dutch, the verb "jagen" means "to hunt" wheras the english "the hunt" translates into dutch as "de jacht". (jagt & jacht are pronounced the same).
@markncl100
@markncl100 3 жыл бұрын
History with the hottie! I so enjoy your videos Hilbert. They are always so well researched and professionally presented.
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you that's very kind of you!
@brendtarons5796
@brendtarons5796 3 жыл бұрын
Heel interessant! Ik ben Nederlands maar woon in Zweden en me grootvader is fries, ik ben ook in en Viking reenactment groep dus ik vind het heel interessant dat mijn interesse en geschiedenis zo samen komen! (Mijn Nederlands is niet de beste, ik heb het nooit in school gehad...)
@marcobreur.
@marcobreur. 3 жыл бұрын
Heel goed ( maar "op" school, nooit op school gehad)
@brendtarons5796
@brendtarons5796 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcobreur. bedankt voor je hulp, ik twijfelde al en beetje daar over.
@giulianomeyer3119
@giulianomeyer3119 10 ай бұрын
Zelf beheersen nederlanders hun eigen taal slecht en leren ze het buitenlanders verkeerd aan. 😂 Over heel de wereld is het grammaticaal " in school" en "op de schoolbanken". Omdat het voorzetsel anders zou verwijzen dat de kinderen letterlijk op het dak van een schoolgebouw zitten en leerlingen vastgenageld zouden zijn tussen de houtplanken van een schoolbank. Dus ergens op een gegeven moment zou in(niet op) een onderwijs instelling een rancuneuze docent(e) hebben besloten dat iemand vandaag geen 10 zou krijgen voor zijn examen bijvoorbeeld. Zo typisch nederlands , kan nederlands zijn 😂. Beter een Fries dan een Hollander .... ik kan het weten, ben zelf Hollander.
@lyninthelowlands
@lyninthelowlands 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always!
@maximilianolimamoreira5002
@maximilianolimamoreira5002 3 жыл бұрын
did someone say:the Netherlands?hit the Willhelmus player🇳🇱
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this would be a long series if I did each time
@maximilianolimamoreira5002
@maximilianolimamoreira5002 3 жыл бұрын
@@historywithhilbert146 yeah,right,keep your good work,Hilbert,I'm happy to see such a youtuber worth his salt,like you,you honor the community.
@GundamReviver
@GundamReviver 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, our national anthem is shit, we need a new one.
@ladyliberty417
@ladyliberty417 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Hilbert, love learning new things about Viking age history always! Look forward to more✌🏼🥰
@redgrassgirl
@redgrassgirl 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh I remember that viking kingdom, oh the good old days
@71kimg
@71kimg 3 жыл бұрын
Nordern Frisia is just next to denmark - i don’t think there was a time without interactions and mutual immigrantions. The amount and size of Viking-fleets going past Frisia - would de-facto demand frisians towns/leaders to have a lot in common with the Vikings (or else to be enslaved/submitted)
@theobolt250
@theobolt250 3 жыл бұрын
The second wife of Heinrich der Finkler, more or less the first German king who broke off of the Frankish empire, was of Frysian-Danish nobility! The marriage was also a political move to gain local support.
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 3 жыл бұрын
I did not know that but I'll look into it!
@theobolt250
@theobolt250 3 жыл бұрын
@@historywithhilbert146 The church annex monastery in Quedlinburgh was build by Henry for her. She is from mother's side of danish-fridian decend. You csn look it up on wikipedia no less! Mabey worth delving into. Msrriages were always (at least for a greater part) political. A wife with such roots was someone who was locally important. He chose her over some or other rich princess from Francia, Wessex or "Italy". That says a thing or two over Henry's political playing field. Anyway, he appeased the danish nobility? Like, that Henry guy doesn't get in our hair? I'm very curious if this can be a worthwhile venue of historical interest.
@TheEve1968
@TheEve1968 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Heel interessant. Ik woon in Utrecht vlakbij wijk bij duurstede. Mijn man is niet fries maar het is grappig te zien dat hij is bijna half scandinavian in zijn DNA. Hij is geboren in Rotterdam. En bij MyTrueAncestry, wij hebben gezien dat hij heeft veel roots in Denmark. Ik ook trouwens onder andere.
@AbsSolut
@AbsSolut 3 жыл бұрын
Hi from Denmark,, love this stuff you make, keep'm up
@Dallascowboy666
@Dallascowboy666 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic as ever 👍🏼
@ManiacMVK
@ManiacMVK 3 жыл бұрын
Realy interesting Channel!
@banaan123ful
@banaan123ful 3 жыл бұрын
More of this please !!!
@florisdebont3867
@florisdebont3867 3 жыл бұрын
Just a fan of viking stuff and dutch so this video is perfect
@stefke5862
@stefke5862 Жыл бұрын
I like to hear about this part of history! I’m Dutch but Never heard about the Frisian and Viking history here in school only of Charlemagne and what ‘good’ he did. I wonder when the larger part of Frisia became the Netherlands or holland?
@patrickaalfs9584
@patrickaalfs9584 3 жыл бұрын
@HistoryWithHilbert. Just wondering. During one of your videos, I thought I detected a Dialect other than the Queen's English. To the ear of a UK resident, do you speak with a detectable European dialect? My philistine midwestern US ear doesn't provide me with the most reliable metric for distinguishing the difference.
@TheEudaemonicPlague
@TheEudaemonicPlague 3 жыл бұрын
As I understand it, many East Frisians came to Illinois in the nineteenth century, including part of my family. I didn't learn that my grandmother was actually of East Frisian descent until after she'd died, so I never got a chance to ask her about it. I need to dig in, so I can learn a few things about it before I die.
@Weda01
@Weda01 3 жыл бұрын
It isn't much, but i thought maybe the following battle would be an interesting read for you that takes place in East Frisia. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Norditi
@jessebosch6732
@jessebosch6732 3 жыл бұрын
Oh ja, ik ben eigenlijk wel geïnteresseerd wat de data van jouw kanaal is. Ik denk dat er vrij veel Nederlanders kijken, maar dat weet ik niet zeker. Misschien is het een video idee om die info te laten zien? Mij lijkt het me best interessant.
@jessebosch6732
@jessebosch6732 3 жыл бұрын
Dit is wat ik nodig had
@MIGFSF
@MIGFSF 3 жыл бұрын
Hello. Would it be possible for you to provide a link to your dissertation? I would like very much to read it as bibliography for the writing of my own dissertation.
@pauld9542
@pauld9542 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a third generation American with a Friesian surname and great grandparents from Friesland. Ancestry DNA came back as 9% Norwegian 48% Germanic & 43% British. I have no known paternal or maternal relatives other than Dutch so I found the DNA analysis very surprising and interesting. Love your history lessons Hibert. Keep up the good work you do for us in the USA who have very little knowledge of European history before WW1!
@1RikAtiC1
@1RikAtiC1 Жыл бұрын
Maybe in the future they will be able to pin down dutch DNA better , but for now , there is no such thing as dutch DNA . Its just to mixed for to long . Im dutch , dutch parents , dutch grand parents etc, , but if you look at my dna , you can find the whole of europe in it. Irish Italianen spanish , french, scandinavian , polish etc
@pauld9542
@pauld9542 6 ай бұрын
DNA Update: 94% Northern Netherlands, 6% Norwegian
@fard6703
@fard6703 4 ай бұрын
As a direct descendant of the Frisian dux Ubba, I love these videos!
@Weda01
@Weda01 4 ай бұрын
As far as i know there isn't any historical documentation that Ubba had any children. Which sources did you use to find out that he did?
@fard6703
@fard6703 4 ай бұрын
@@Weda01 He had two, they were known for their cruelty and were born in Ireland since he got frisky with an Irish woman while raising his navy to invade York. This was during the 4-year period when he disappeared so only Irish sources corroborate as nobody knew he survived.
@Weda01
@Weda01 4 ай бұрын
@@fard6703 Do you know any good Irish sources so i can read about it? I descent from the house of Munso (the house Björn Jarnsida supposedly started) so i have a particular interest in the documented history of the brothers outside of the Sagas.
@xaviervisa571
@xaviervisa571 3 ай бұрын
​@@Weda01 Bjorn and Ubba? Are you talking about Ragnar Lodbrok's sons? Sorry, l am from Barcelona, l have interest about the Vikings since youth but without a real kwoledge about them. A few of them were riding in the catalan coast, and there is one name from that period wich comes from those scandinavian riders: Rahola. l know 3 brothers with that name, and two of them they look absolutly scandinavian. So rare. After more than a thousand years It is really strange. Maybe a few Vikings settled down at the north coast of that area.
@stepheng9607
@stepheng9607 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks. By the way there is a Frisian flag flying proudly on Aberystwyth promenade
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't know that - it's pretty cool!
@daviddickey9182
@daviddickey9182 3 жыл бұрын
Hilbert could you please make an episode or two on the Continental/Old Saxons and their war with Charlemagne and their position afterward during the Viking age?
@eddys.3524
@eddys.3524 3 жыл бұрын
I love the parts in Frisian.... great!
@BMDHB
@BMDHB 3 жыл бұрын
Vikings made new ships from the Oaktrees from the place that is now named: Ekeren, first name-notation was in 1155: Hecerna
@vonhummie
@vonhummie 3 жыл бұрын
Cudos on your Dutch! I'm Dutch myself and I've never heard a non Dutchie speak it so well :)
@perfectpixels6531
@perfectpixels6531 3 жыл бұрын
He is Dutch lol
@RuiFeio90
@RuiFeio90 2 жыл бұрын
When is the episode on Rorik coming? :)
@Utgardaloki76
@Utgardaloki76 3 жыл бұрын
From runestone U 379, Sigtuna - Sweden Frísa gildaʀ létu ræisa stæin þennsa æftiʀ Þōr[kel, gild]a sinn. Guð hialpi ǫnd hans. Þōrbiorn risti. "The guild-brothers of (the) Frisians had this stone raised in memory of Thorkell, their guild-brother. God help his spirit. Thorbjorn carved (the runes)."
@Utgardaloki76
@Utgardaloki76 3 жыл бұрын
@Joakim von Anka Exact year is unknown. The language points to years ca. 950-1050 AD. The stone is from Sigtuna which became an important merchant site during this period. Guilds were all about craftsmen and merchants and organised trade.
@dasauge8446
@dasauge8446 3 жыл бұрын
Geweldich ûnderwerp! Mear Fryske skiednis. Myn Ingelsk is net sa goed, mar ik bin der wis fan dat jo dit sille begripe! Ik soe bliid wêze oer in fideo oer de Friezen yn Seelân. ;-)
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 3 жыл бұрын
Tige dank!
@jimvandeven9732
@jimvandeven9732 3 жыл бұрын
Leren jullie normaal Nederlands
@vnixned2
@vnixned2 10 ай бұрын
​@@jimvandeven9732Fries is geen Nederlands dialect, het is een eigen taal met wettelijk beschermde status in Nederland. Ik spreek ook geen Fries, maar dat betekend niet dat ik direct ga miepen over mensen die Fries spreken.
@simontenkate9601
@simontenkate9601 5 ай бұрын
@@vnixned2 dank je wel. Dankewol!
@elgranlugus7267
@elgranlugus7267 3 жыл бұрын
Frisian boys getting more love!
@strontboer2695
@strontboer2695 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Hilbert heb je ook informatie over andere Germaanse stammen dan de Friesen. Misschien de Franken Saksen of een andere stam waar ik nooit van gehoord heb. dit is alleen leuk als je een Fries bent.
@egbertmodderman
@egbertmodderman 3 жыл бұрын
Briljant filmpje, thanks ! ( je accent is wel moeilijk te plaatsen, alsof je een Nederlandse Fries bent die de laatste 20 jaar in de uk heeft gewoond )
@mariepindstruplinde1671
@mariepindstruplinde1671 3 жыл бұрын
As a Scandinavian I got the gist of the Frisian (?) texts. I have always wondered about why it is possible for Scandinavians and the Dutch to understand each other's languages, especially when you are reading.
@Weda01
@Weda01 3 жыл бұрын
The texts he read were modern Dutch, not Frisian. I don't think it was to difficult to communicate back in the day because we used more or less a similair runic script at the time, Futhorc for the Frisians and English and Younger Futhark in Scandinavia. Futhorc was pretty much the Elder Futhark with some extra runes while the Younger Futhark was just a shortened version of the Elder Futhark.
@syntaxerror8955
@syntaxerror8955 3 жыл бұрын
All Germanic languages stem from the language of Germanic (having once spread from southern Scandinavia), so I'm personally not sure what there is to wonder about. The kind of local coastal German that I encountered at a place in northern Germany is amazingly close to Swedish (althought the standard "high" German is less so). It's either simply our common Germanic heritage, but perhaps more likely also mixed with people visiting and settling back and forth as well.
@HYDROCARBON_XD
@HYDROCARBON_XD Жыл бұрын
@@syntaxerror8955also northern Germany,the original urheimat was also present in northern Germany and Jutland peninsula
@joshb5742
@joshb5742 Жыл бұрын
Goeie dag Hilbert, I was wandering if you know anything about the people of Drenthe? Because I was born in Hoogeveen and grew up in Meppel but we never got taught much about our early history. And online resources seem to have failed me. Would you be able to send me in the right direction? All the best from New Zealand, Cheers, Joshua
@Weda01
@Weda01 Жыл бұрын
There isn't much known about the early history of Drenthe because the area has throughout history almost always been very sparsely populated. Supposedly the name comes from the Germanic Thrihanti tribe. The Thrihanti as far as i know is never mentioned in any Roman scripture, but historians believe it existed because the area of Drenthe is first called in literature by the name of Pago Threant in the Charter of Theodgrim that dates back to the year 820.
@chrisbovington9607
@chrisbovington9607 3 жыл бұрын
Your reliance on KZbin's auto-generated captions is hilariously optimistic.
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 3 жыл бұрын
I'll edit these when I get home haha
@chrisnewbury3793
@chrisnewbury3793 Жыл бұрын
Well I haven't seen it mentioned in the comments yet, which is amazing, but you need to study "The Oera Linda".
@0MVR_0
@0MVR_0 3 жыл бұрын
1:54 A few details concerning the image would be appreciated. The repeated sacking could be an indication of the subsistent wealth of the low countries well before the ubiquity of the mill. The doomsday book records that England had six thousand watermills in ten eighty six. Before the invention of the fix [and later post that swung against the wind] structure, the watermills were the only way to automate an industrial [flour/stone grinding] or domestic [clothes cleaning] process.
@caseyjones6677
@caseyjones6677 3 жыл бұрын
Yessss finally, redbad would be proud!
@marka7759
@marka7759 Жыл бұрын
do we have any evidence for how the armor/weapons of the fisians looked like - especially in the viking & early normanic times? In what did they differ?
@landrecce
@landrecce 2 ай бұрын
I know this sounds crazy, but I am Rodulf Haraldsson reincarnated. I didn't even know that the Vikings were in the Netherlands but I did know more about the Vikings than most just from my interest in History. I saw my clothes, my hands, my chest, my face, and I saw the people in my life. I can fill in the blanks in the story, and there is a strong indication that Ubba was me (Rodulf) and not a son of Ragnar as told in the TV series.
@Gaston4760
@Gaston4760 3 жыл бұрын
love to hear about my country's vikings 🇩🇰 😅
@natekirk18
@natekirk18 3 жыл бұрын
My mothers side were definitley originally Norman as the name Kirkja, is an old translation of the name as well as geneaological records. My fathers side is anglo saxon had a norman but the first record of Popham (My direct male descendents) was in the town in hampshire. while my maternal grandfathers maternal side Marcum (Originally Markham) Came over from normandy to england in the 1000's. I'm american. All my ancestors came to the U.S. and canada from mainly the british isles. before 1800.
@digitalbrentable
@digitalbrentable 3 жыл бұрын
ah ha ha, finally learning Dutch has paid off for something
@axisboss1654
@axisboss1654 3 жыл бұрын
Knowing German helps a lot as I can understand some of it however not all of it
@TroyDowVanZandt
@TroyDowVanZandt 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm. I came across a paper recently that maintains that medieval Rustringen Frisian was a very "pure" form of the language in that it had few loan words. This contention militates against outside linguistic influence.
@Hispandinavian
@Hispandinavian 3 жыл бұрын
Friesland is a beautiful area, especially Leeuwarden.
@williamfluit6198
@williamfluit6198 3 жыл бұрын
LEGOS: the reason Dorestad was rebuilt so quickly, in time for next Viking raid.
@vanefreja86
@vanefreja86 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! ;) :) :P
@digitalbrentable
@digitalbrentable 3 жыл бұрын
The first passage in Dutch seemed to argue that when Vikings did raid Dorestad, the plundered wealth simply made its way back through Dorestad anyway, as it was the central trade hub between Scandinavia and the Franks. So they very well could have been rebounding from these sackings pretty quickly as wealth continued to flow between raids.
@npgibson69
@npgibson69 3 жыл бұрын
Viking raid humbug. They were IKEA delivery raiders.
@olaf6987
@olaf6987 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think about Thorgrim Titlestads perspective on the Viking Age? (Likely the foremost Viking Age historian in Norway). That it was a reaction in the form of defensive assymetrical warfare against Frankish and Christian aggression and expansion.
@blauth
@blauth 3 жыл бұрын
subtitles weren't working :(
@PrinceOfOrange1
@PrinceOfOrange1 10 ай бұрын
Goede video
@veronicaevans8134
@veronicaevans8134 3 жыл бұрын
Has anyone had the chance to watch "The Warlord". 1964 Charlton Heston medeval epic featuring Freisian raiders on Northern France cica 10 century.Fairly Historicaly accurate.
@otsoko66
@otsoko66 3 жыл бұрын
except for the central plot point of droit du seigneur / jus primae noctis , which wasn't a real thing.
@michaelchen8643
@michaelchen8643 3 жыл бұрын
At 11:30 I see a historical comment document it looks like to be modern Dutch no I don’t have a command of modern touch language nor modern Freesian but I can tell the difference and I’ve actually seen old Frisian Has this historical statement been translated into Dodge for the purpose of this is of dramatic presentation on this video
@hudsonhornet6558
@hudsonhornet6558 10 күн бұрын
My grandfather who immigration record wise he’s roughly 3/4 Dutch and 1/4 Swiss but after taking a dna test he was 30 percent Scandinavian mostly Danish
@ErikMols
@ErikMols 3 жыл бұрын
Leuk stuk. Maak zelf ook geschiedenis filmpjes en podcasts.
@ericvandijk6515
@ericvandijk6515 Жыл бұрын
How does Radbod fits in in this period?
@karpi470
@karpi470 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to speaking German (and using google translate for some words), I was more or less able to get the dutch part.
@Fenniks-
@Fenniks- 3 жыл бұрын
The viking age truly was the golden age of Denmark
@Fenniks-
@Fenniks- 3 жыл бұрын
@Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicolvocanoconiosis by that logic Spain, Great Britain, France and Portugal never had a golden age either because some of them also left for the colonies. so your point dosent make any sense besides the north sea empire saw Denmark control England, Norway and parts of Sweden quiet a remarkable feat for such a small country.
@Fenniks-
@Fenniks- 3 жыл бұрын
@Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicolvocanoconiosis ahh In that case sorry lol i misunderstood you xD
@eriontolaj4173
@eriontolaj4173 3 жыл бұрын
Im somewhat really interested on medieval ages, i don’t know why but maybe on my past life i lived during these times. Does anyone feel like me?
@mahakalabhairava9950
@mahakalabhairava9950 3 жыл бұрын
The Belgians, the southern neighbour of the Netherlands, have almost no Viking influence whatsoever.
@theobolt250
@theobolt250 3 жыл бұрын
Oops, very wrong. Flanders went through a similar development as Frisia. The result was a powerful nearly independant earldom after the Viking period!
@mahakalabhairava9950
@mahakalabhairava9950 3 жыл бұрын
@@theobolt250 Belgians don't show any influence in their DNA because at the time their ancestors didn't live there yet.
@mahakalabhairava9950
@mahakalabhairava9950 3 жыл бұрын
@Cathalyne Batavian They do. Dutch speaking Belgians are NOT half Dutch.
@mahakalabhairava9950
@mahakalabhairava9950 3 жыл бұрын
@@theobolt250 We are talking about. 800's, not 1800's.
@lelgie601
@lelgie601 3 жыл бұрын
@Cathalyne Batavian seethe
@suzettehenderson9278
@suzettehenderson9278 3 жыл бұрын
You left out the Scott-Scandinavian blend.
@KrugerrandFarms
@KrugerrandFarms 3 жыл бұрын
Ja Ik ben vries maar ik ben geen stievkop! I always felt that Fries was the bridge between old English and old German. Wat denk je?
@Weda01
@Weda01 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt it, Old High German was a Old Franconian dialect just like Old-Dutch. Frisian and English originated from the same language branch called Anglo-Frisian.
@KrugerrandFarms
@KrugerrandFarms 3 жыл бұрын
@@Weda01 Aha! and this is why the old English makes such sense and sounds familiar
@Weda01
@Weda01 3 жыл бұрын
@@KrugerrandFarms Yep, it is still relatively easy to understand and read Old-English.
@KrugerrandFarms
@KrugerrandFarms 3 жыл бұрын
@@Weda01 Several years ago I did business in Sweden. The Swedes told me I would never learn to speak scandinavian but on the return trip I started to read their tech literature and when I figured out the differences I could figure out what was the same. Lo and behold I could understand enough to get by. My parents spoke vries in the home as a form of code but I studied 't nederland's at Calvin College for three years. Enough to claim a minor in it. My family name is Andela.
@Weda01
@Weda01 3 жыл бұрын
@@KrugerrandFarms I cant speak for Swedish and Norwegian, but i had the same experience with Danish. I have been to Denmark a couple of times and without knowing the language it was surprisingly easy to follow most conversations, there are still many words i don't understand of course but by summarizing sentences it was easy enough to follow most of a conversation which i thought was pretty cool. Just goes to show that after all this time the Germanic languages still have simmilarities.
@backinblack1982
@backinblack1982 3 жыл бұрын
Is anyone familiar with the surname Roorda? I've traced the name back to the 8th Century in Frisia. I wonder if there is a Danish connection since it falls right into this timeline.
@Weda01
@Weda01 3 жыл бұрын
As far as we know, the name does not have a Danish connection but is derived from an Old-Frisian name. A Genealogy research that was done back in 1981 said the following about it: "There is still something to say about the origin and meaning of the name. Roorda is a patronymic: the genitive form on -a of a first name Roord. So Roorda is the son of Roord. Roord goes back to the first name Roward or Rowerd. Older form one is again Rodward, Hrodward (the o is long). The last word consists of hrod (fame, fame, renown) and true / (protector, keeper). So Hrodward will have meant the famous or renowned protector." I can't link you the source since it is a PDF file ( just Google the following if you want to read the PDF file: "Hrodward Oudfries". You can find the text i pasted above on page 48 written in Dutch of that PDF file.)
@backinblack1982
@backinblack1982 3 жыл бұрын
@@Weda01 I can't tell you how much I appreciate this information, thank you so much! Being able to learn these things about an ancestor is incredible
@Weda01
@Weda01 3 жыл бұрын
@@backinblack1982 You're welcome :)
@emanovska
@emanovska 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to buy a vowel please
@wilfredrivera6521
@wilfredrivera6521 2 жыл бұрын
SHOW OFF!!! Speaking such a beautiful language
@Kyranio
@Kyranio 3 жыл бұрын
It's cool to learn more about the long history of my province, I wish every Dutch person that sees this province as a lost cause with no reason for its own language, would knew as to why and how long before the Netherlands was even a country, it was all Magna Frisia! Honestly, I wish some entertainment producer would pick up these pieces of Frisian history and turn it into something like a television show, I'd definitely watch that!
@marinusvisser1338
@marinusvisser1338 3 жыл бұрын
👍 👍
@shaiaheyes2c41
@shaiaheyes2c41 3 жыл бұрын
In 1940 German soldiers were thought how to interact with Norwegians whom were described as very similar to the Frisian farmers.
@aldosigmann419
@aldosigmann419 Жыл бұрын
Frisian here...DNA sez i'm 34% Scandinavian....
@AdriLeemput
@AdriLeemput 3 жыл бұрын
In Flanders we say "klak" to mean "pet"
@Depipro
@Depipro 3 жыл бұрын
"Frisodanes" rather than "Danofrisians" would seem to be correct, as "Diepfriesdenen" sounds a lot better than "Diepdeenfriezen". (Note: "Diepfries" could be used as a derogatory term, but I was thinking of a Frisian I met who happily used it on himself.)
@GundamReviver
@GundamReviver 3 жыл бұрын
Judging by a mate of mine that wears short trousers till mid winter, diepfriessen is honestly not that far off some of them.
@prankster1590
@prankster1590 3 жыл бұрын
Diepvries is a frozen meal in dutch. Diepvriesdeen is a frozen dane dish for in the fridge.
@Depipro
@Depipro 3 жыл бұрын
@@prankster1590 Indeed, and "Diepfries" is a pun on "Diepvries", alluding to the stereotype of people from the North of the country (in this case Frisians, but the stereotype exists about Grunnigers too) as being unemotional and lacking empathy. So when a Frisian uses the term himself, it becomes a reappropriation, or "Geuzennaam" as we say in Dutch.
@lordDenis16
@lordDenis16 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, your transitions are so bad, but your content is sooo good.
@landrecce
@landrecce 2 ай бұрын
If the items found there way back south, then it is feasible that they raids were actually funding by Franks using mercenaries. Never underestimate the potential for trickery, especially whenever the Christian Romans are concerned!
@HS-su3cf
@HS-su3cf 3 жыл бұрын
"The freezing ballet sprinkle metal car watermelon"?
@IvoTichelaar
@IvoTichelaar 3 жыл бұрын
Person woman man camera TV. OMELET DU FROMAGE!
@larsmunch4536
@larsmunch4536 Ай бұрын
As I have understood Harald Klak until now, he tried to get the support of the Frankish to take back his kingdom in Denmark. The Frankish wanted him to be a christian, so they had the excuse, that they helped a christian king to take back hos power in a pagan area. As a part of this deal, Harald Klak should allow christian missionaries in Denmark, and that is how Ansgar came to Denmark and later to Sweden. This video doesn't say anything about Harald Klak trying to come back to power in Denmark, only describes him as someone seeming to be content with his role as ruler of a part of Frisia.
@jesse8737
@jesse8737 2 жыл бұрын
Is it true Zeeland has significant Viking history?
@chrisnewbury3793
@chrisnewbury3793 Жыл бұрын
Zeelanders are mentioned in the Frisian Bible aka "The Oera Linda".
@Martel33
@Martel33 3 жыл бұрын
Harald Klak is my great ×33 grand father
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican 3 жыл бұрын
"But for the future of a certain nation" *Wilhelmus van Nassouwe ben ik van Duitsen bloed*
@dasauge8446
@dasauge8446 3 жыл бұрын
Ik bin in Fries út it Fryske bloed Nederlân heart histoarysk ta 70% fan de Friezen!
@simontenkate9601
@simontenkate9601 5 ай бұрын
Ja, Wilhelm(us) was van Duitsen bloed, logisch, hij kwam uit Duitsland. Dat betekent niet dat degenen die het Wilhelmus zingen, Duits zijn.
@adolfgaming1761
@adolfgaming1761 3 жыл бұрын
Frisia Magna!
@Guardias
@Guardias 3 жыл бұрын
Well captions did more harm than good while you spoke English and completely gave up when you stopped.
@Harekiet
@Harekiet 3 жыл бұрын
Frysk bloed tsjoch op!
@kevinlawler2571
@kevinlawler2571 2 жыл бұрын
This actually pertains to me genetically I believe.. from my research my fathers mothers people came from this area and (Frisia) and and my dna rest has shown as I suspected I have Danish ancestors..
@chrisnewbury3793
@chrisnewbury3793 Жыл бұрын
They were the most intrepid people at the time, so most likely we all have a little Frisian in our blood ;)
@diegoragot655
@diegoragot655 3 жыл бұрын
Would you talk about Kvenland??
@strontboer2695
@strontboer2695 3 жыл бұрын
(over de Friese taal ik vindt het een dialect met een woordenboek, het lijkt veel op andere dialecten zoals Limburgs en Nedersaksisch/plattdeutsch in mijn ogen is het een stukje oudnederlands)
@StorchUSA1
@StorchUSA1 3 жыл бұрын
My ancestor was Popo Of Friesland, he was the last King of the Frisians
@Weda01
@Weda01 3 жыл бұрын
But as far as i know of (i could be wrong of course), there are no proven descendants from Popo but only hypothetical ones.
@StorchUSA1
@StorchUSA1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Weda01 I know Redbad is who they cant figure out his descendants, they think Popo was his son as he took the thrown after Redbad passed
@Weda01
@Weda01 3 жыл бұрын
@@StorchUSA1 True, there are only hypotheses of who the descendants of Redbad might be, a popular one being the old counts of Holland and the Bishop Radboud, but there doesn't exist specific proof that can backup the hypotheses. The same story goes for Popo, there are existing hypotheses of who his descendants could be but there is no specific proof that can back it up.
@ronaldderooij1774
@ronaldderooij1774 3 жыл бұрын
My mother had an uncle that researched the roots of her family (nobility). He came to exactly this conclusion that they came from Birka and settled in Dorestad (probably for a woman??). He came to that conclusion around 1975-1980. I have never asked, because I don't bear her name. The subject was jokingly raised once again when the family found out that the ships bringing possessions of the family founder from Birka to Dorestad, fell vicitim to the Danish king's pirates. The family decided that the worth nowadays would be 6 billion Euro. They send a letter to the Danish king asking him for the money (it was a joke!!). They got a reply that it was now too long ago to have any juridical consequences. Duh... No sense of humor, those Danish civil-servants.
@veronicalogotheti5416
@veronicalogotheti5416 2 жыл бұрын
That is why julio cesar is germanico
@arne.munther
@arne.munther 3 жыл бұрын
The part where you speak Dutch is not translated. You might need to supply your own transcripts.
@Weda01
@Weda01 3 жыл бұрын
He pinned the translation i made in the comment section, so if you are still interested you can read that :)
@jita6866
@jita6866 3 жыл бұрын
11:31 does it mean the frisians were christians at this time? I tought they had nordic/germanic gods and later became christians because of the franks? 🧐
@Weda01
@Weda01 3 жыл бұрын
Conversion to Christianity happened over a period of time (it happened in stages) which began in the second half of the 7th century and lasted until the 11th century. Also keep in mind that the Viking age happened later than the Frankish occupation of Frisia.
@KoosKansloos1908
@KoosKansloos1908 3 жыл бұрын
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