The Frisians in Beowulf - Analysing The Battle of Finnsburh

[@XyryuHyota]

Being a Frisian myself, I never really got taught about Frisian history. Me being a history buff I find this very sad. Please do more Frisian history vids ;)

[@draphotube4315]

Please can Frisian heritage and language survive!! I don’t want it to go extinct.

[@cyrilox737]

@@draphotube4315 Don't worry, the Frisian language is very much alive in 2022.

[@Clear224-77]

Gangfrisian

[@Ballum_64]

@@cyrilox737 Westfrisian, yes. But Saterlandfrisian and Northfrisian are highly in danger.

[@stillverseDri]

please read the Oera Linda Manuscript... it will fill you with warmth of an honest and humble pride . wether one takes it as fiction or fact... it states concepts that are in no way false, laws that are nothing but wise, ECT... so opinions aside, this book deserves a second chance.

[@andy602]

Some schools in North England have started teaching old English in hope to revive it.

[@leornendeealdenglisc]

Oh really? I didn't know that. Do you know a link where I can read more about that?

[@garmit61]

So there’s no evidence to this then?

[@danielterpstra9289]

I am in,

[@lewis6138]

Let me know, as I was raised up North , would love to know

[@lewis6138]

@Orville Alexander not really

[@Survivethejive]

I pronounce "jutes" as "yoo-tes" as that is correct. Modern English people only say the hard J in error. Are you aware that Tolkien wrote an essay on the Finnsburh fragment Hilbert?

[@divingdave2945]

@Marry Christmas Wow, you are so kind.

[@celtofcanaanesurix2245]

I always find it annoying as all hell when people pronounce Jutes as ‘jew-ts’ I actually don’t pronounce the e though, which makes my pronunciation the same as for the Native American tribe of the Utes...

[@ivankebabremover6764]

High quality Dutchposting right here.

[@cameronturner1865]

Hello Hilbert! I just wanted to take a second to thank you for all the time and effort you put into your videos. Your passion for, and knowledge of, history is immediately evident in your work. Thanks for putting in the time so that we can sit back and soak it all in! Keep up the great work and have a great day!

[@Jerbod2]

As a Frisian, I love this. We get taught very little about Frisian history, due to the fact that Fryslân is sort of being belittled by the Netherlands. The fact that the EU protects minority languages saved our asses. Where did you live in Fryslân before you moved to the UK?

[@tomdm1526]

Wy sin âlderman trots op Frysktalige

[@RvEijndhoven]

Personally, as a Brabander, my like or dislike of Frisians hinges on one simple point: Whether they're part of the group that buys into the (Let me point out in advance: incorrect) belief that modern Frisians are the descendants of the Frisii (and whether they derive from this an idea that Frisians are the original Dutch people and the rest are foreign invaders oppressing them). Basically the reason for this is that it's not the general people in the Netherlands who belittle the Frisians, it's the 'Randstadters' particularly in Noord-Holland and Utrecht who pretty much (these days largely unintentionally) belittle all other people in the Netherlands, whether they're Frisians, Brabanders, Limburgers, Tukkers, Groningers, etc.. equally and false Frisian nativism doesn't really help there.

[@tomdm1526]

Robbert van Eijndhoven Tukkers syn g'weldig

[@haplotalk7348]

One of my cousins used to make jokes about the Frisians. Then everyone had their DNA tests and started researching their genealogy. It turns out that Opa was Frisian, not Dutch. Schoterland power!

[@aliaguerin1266]

I am from Amsterdam keep on being proud Frysian and keep youre language and history. x

[@eponymousarchon7442]

There is a sixties film with Charlton Heston called the Warlord. He plays a Norman leader. He is at war with the Frisians who are portrayed as a wild viking type as I remember.

[@RogerTheil]

Gotta love that constant "wildman" trope in 50's/60's films.

[@marcusvaughn7019]

A very interesting video Hilbert, thank you! I was always told as a child that our family came from Denmark. However, in the 1970's, my cousin went back to our ancestral home (in Germany!) named Bredtstedt, a small town, a few miles from the North Sea and Denmark. My cousin went to the local Evangelical Church in Bredtstedt, where he located family birth/death records, the oldest being 1470. Somewhere around 1510 or so, the Roman Catholics burned the church down. Anyway, my family lived in and around Bredstedt and places like Sterdebull, and Ost-Bordellum. Though the church records were in German, my Great-Grandfather, Boy Stephanus Boysen brought over a book when he immigrated, dated 1842. We had a heck of a time trying to decipher the language of the book, but discovered it was written in North Frisian language. In fact, we discovered the North Frisian Institute is located in Bredstedt, Germany today. I don't know if Boy spoke North Frisian, but I suspect he knew at least some of the language. His wife, Mette Catherine (nee Thompsen) was from Blaakrog, Danmark. I am fairly certain my family has some Northern Frisian bloodline, but just how much will remain a mystery, as the bloodlines can become quickly diluted within a relatively short amount of time. This short video contains more N. Frisian history than any other I've seen on YT! Thank You!

[@Ballum_64]

Astonishing, really. Did you make any contact to the North Frisian Institut? Because, as far as i know, northfrisian writings from that time are quite rare (Especially in this area. The cultural centers, where the written frisian language was used in a larger scale, were located more to the north (Sylt, Föhr, Bökingharde, Nordgoesharde)). Since the north frisians lost the abillity to use their own written language somewhen after the language developed from Oldfrisian to Northfrisian and because low German (later high German) was taught and used as School and Church language in the duchy of "Schleswig" (even though the population was danish & frisian) there was no need for a written frisian language. It is also interesting, because the northifrisian dialect the book is written in is most likely "Mittelgoesharder"” frisian. This dialect is nearly exstinct today. There are only a very very few speaker left. PS: its quite safe to say that your Great-Grandfather was frisian, since his name "Boy" is frisian (Boysen patronymic form. Boysen = son of Boy) and places like Sterdebiill, Bordelum and Bredstedt were in the frisian core area. The mixed danish-frisian-speaking places were further east.

[@martinan22]

Hengest sounds like "HIngst", meaning stallion. This makes sense also from the perspective of Hengist and Horsa since Horsa obviously means horse too.

[@M3au]

Interesting that the coat of arms of the county of Kent features a stallion.

[@Ravishrex1]

Thanks for that. My surname is Hin and my family comes from Tessal and I have been trying to find the origins of Hin

[@Stormcloakvictory]

In dutch Hengst means stallion

[@janpopkebouma7194]

I had a teacher at school with surname HIngst, and yes, we are Frisians.

[@theobolt250]

If you put it like this it sounds a bit gay. All that horsing around by proud men... 😁

[@whispersinthedark88]

I hadn't seen this video yet and for the first time Im really glad to get an old recommendation . Im of Dutch-Friesian and Danish decent and its great to get a look at the lesser known parts of our history. I also really appreciate your work to separate out later Christian additions and propaganda from their accounts of our pre-christian cultures and beliefs. It can be very frustrating as a pagan to hear falsehoods repeated over and over again, which only ends up leading to confusion and crazy ideas from those who are misinformed . I love your work and Im glad to see your channel growing . There are so many people making "historical" videos but they do little more than google it and give a grade school level report with little to no critical thought on their behalf . You are a rare breath of fresh air.

[@las1147]

I also have a suggestion for a video, if you're interested of course. Next year marks the 1000 year anniversary of the Battle of Flardingha (Vlaardingen) in which the Frisians (I believe) fought off the emperor (I'm bad with names and it has been a loooong time since I looked into it) after they were send in to keep Dirk III in check because he suddenly started to ask for toll on the river and kept all the money. The battle was seen as laying the groundwork for an independent Holland. So maybe you can look into it and make a video on it next year (or whenever you want idk it's your channel) and check out the reenactment somewhere in June. ;)

[@meh2972]

There is another connection to Kent, namely that Frisians moved there even before the Anglo-Saxon migration due to their homeland flooding.

[@roodborstkalf9664]

More or less correct. In 275 AD the Rhine limes collapsed. The Franks conquered the area north of the highway from Boulogne to Cologne. All inhabitants living south of the Rhine became refugees. Some Frisii (who were allies of the Romans) were resettled as laeti in Kent and Northern France.

[@jacquelinevanderkooij4301]

Romans mentioned moving Frisii to England in the last period of their stay in Brittain.

[@danielwolzen3405]

Great job brother. My family originates in east Friesland. We are from the town Woltzen. When we came to America in 1905 we dropped the T so that we sounded less German during WW1. I've always wondered who we were before. Thankyou.

[@kenken8765]

After rewatching the 2007 Beowulf film. This video for me showed another depth in that film in the scene where some Frisian dude named Finn was confronted by Beowulf and was boasting that "his name will be remembered forever".

[@RogerTheil]

I remember that scene, think about it strangely often. Thanks for joggin' the noggin' again.

[@larsrons7937]

Very interesting. The Battle of Finnsburh, the Finnburh Fragment and this part of Beowulf is almost unexplored territory to me.

[@Sibrich]

Thank you for this video! I recently found out I am descendent of Finn so this really cool. 45 generations later me and my family are still Friesian living close to where are our ancestors are from :)

[@ErikBramsen]

The Danes obviously stopped killing the Frisians because they were basically nice guys. You see this in later history, when Denmark dispatches humanitarian missions to liberate the Brits from Saxon oppression, even shipping boatloads of refugees back to Denmark for resettlement.

[@jacquelinevanderkooij4301]

🤣😂🤣🙈

[@historywithhilbert]

Is this live? This wasn't meant to be live until tonight? Oh well - here you go then :P

[@jamespitcher6936]

History With Hilbert new to your channel. Loving the content

[@BListHistory]

History With Hilbert :P hasn't happened to me yet but probably will at some point

[@PuffAdder8565]

Can you do M&B Warband VikingConquest realism?

[@Phrenotopia]

It was already live. Now it's history.

[@JustJackOnYoutube]

your mum's a cow

[@pelegon1257]

Enjoying the content you are putting out.. Keep up the good work 👌👍

[@las1147]

Bloody hell this would make an awesome series

[@danielterpstra9289]

Fuck yeah

[@Matthijsklaassen]

@@soomkes7686 genante vertoning, die film

[@dr.lexwinter8604]

Not with the terrible freeware music in the background and his recording into two tin cans with a piece of string it wouldn't.

[@hendrikusisidora3679]

I am from Fryslân and I really like this channel. Gie sa troch!

[@variszuzans299]

I have a question. The English (or should I say the British) always make a great deal out of the Norman conquest, and before that of the Dane or Viking raiders and their rule in English territory. Well, the thing is, aren't the Danes, the Jutes, the Vikings and Normans, the Angles and the Saxons somewhat similar people? At least, they all came to England from pretty much the same area geographically and in the same era. And, linguistically and ethincally they must have been very very similar peoples. I see it as some type of clan warfare, but the English make it out to be as if it was some kind of Mongol invasion or something (speaking about the Norman conquest), at least on Viasat History films.

[@patrickcrowley8279]

Love the anglo saxon stuff! Very intresting!

[@historywithhilbert]

Thank you! It's been a while since I did anything Dark Ahes :D

[@TheIsemgrim]

fryslan boppe

[@Spacefrisian]

De rest kin in de grôppe

[@Dextamartijn]

Grunn boppe Friesland in De grôppe

[@yogsothoth7594]

I might speculate that the Danes were running out of food and that's why they made the peace.

[@yogsothoth7594]

Additionally perhaps they had hostages meaning the Frisians couldn't just starve them all to death.

[@historywithhilbert]

That's a possibility I'd thought of, although if they really were hacking their way through Finn's thegns as the poem suggests then surely a sortie would have been easy? The idea of them holding hostages is perhaps more plausible although there's no mention of it. Good idea though :)

[@M3au]

I believe Gregory of Tours also wrote of this incident.

[@skeletalbassman1028]

Scyldings were a Northern Germanic tribe like the Jutes and Geats. They descend from the legendary Scyld -> Shield. Another "simple" name indicating a very ancient ancestor or folk hero. My favorite example is Gilgamesh. A historical person likely, but his name literally means "ancestor man". Take that for what you will.

[@avishaiedenburg1102]

A quick note about "Scylding": this is a dynastic name. Beowulf begins with a description of Scyld Scefing's reign over Denmark. He (Scyld/Skjøld) was the ,forefather of Hnæf, but also of Hrothgar and Hrothulf.

[@Eulemunin]

Lovely explanation, I for one really enjoyed the scholarly nature.

[@Valerio_the_wandering_sprite]

It's mind-blowing how the Finn of Frisia from the Beowulf movie is actually based on an actual semi-hystorical figure. So much for a "nameless Frisian raider". And it turns out his name will be in fact remembered forever, even if he didn't met, let alone killed Grendel's bane 😂😂😂

[@Phrenotopia]

3:20 King Finn was quite a Kingpin then?

[@historywithhilbert]

Touché ;)

[@garethmaccoll4374]

Great video Hilbert - really interesting. On your question about why the treaty was so unfavourable toward the Frisians, is it possible do you think that a small part of it may have been due to the fact that, whatever the truth of what started the conflict, the Frisians were the hosts and it's possible they felt compelled to consider their reputation in light of norms and taboos relating to hospitality? I would also consider the personal relation between King Finn and the Queen in them being man and wife, and her familial relationship to the Danish side, as factors in the sense of Finn perhaps having an impetus to keep the peace of his own home and appease his wife's feelings.

[@tamanassman]

your observation about the meaning of Eotan/Juten/Jutish as also meaning "giant" has me pondering Jutland's possible other ancient name... Jotunheimen. And that the ancient Jutes/Jotnar were subdued by the Danes, whose kings were the line of Odin/Wotan or so they claimed, were they not?......

[@rateeightx]

King Finn, Not To Be Confused With King Pin!

[@ronaldderooij1774]

I would like to have some archeological evidence of Finnsburgh. Do we know where it was located at all?

[@jacob_swaggerz]

I love the "life of a legionary" music... you're bringing back my RNG PTSD

[@HiddelS143]

Eoten and its Norse counterpart Jotun, don't actually literally mean "giant". That's the modern English translation. The Eoten or Jotnar were not all giants, some were big, some were small, and some were in between. The Eoten/Jotnar were just an enemy tribe of the Aesir/Whatever-equivalent-the-saxons-used. So I lean more toward Eoten being used in the context of an enemy tribe.

[@holmgeirgautreksson2451]

Maybe Hnæf's Danish warriors swore their allegiance to Hengest after the fall of Finnsburh for avenging their lord? If so, they may have been the ones Hengest and his brother used to conquer Kent.

[@olelarsen7688]

This is a difficult story to get a hold on. Everyone interested must choose his favorite version. Also it is written in a complicated way. The people who listened to the story the first few hundred years knew who was who, and who was killed. The anglo-saxon legends were written down 2-3-400 years after they were made, so they have a lot of historical contents, but they also borrowed from each other. The danes and the angel tribes had been allied (400 years before the wiking-age). A legend tells that king Dan and king Angel were brothers, and other things shows it too. The danes consisted of several tribes and kings. Hnæfs kin didn´t die out with him. Charlemagnes wife Hildegard who was an alemanic princess also decented from Nebi son of Hocing. In Withsid hocings is a tribe, not a kin. About Guthlaf and Oslaf the icelandic saga tells: A danish king was Leif the Brave, he had 6 sons, Hærleif,Hunleif,Åleif,Oddleif, Geirleif,Gunleif. I belive Guthlaf and Oslaf decent from Hunleif. Also I have read that there was a jutish colony in Frisia, by Flevo lake and Garulf came from there.

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

What about the Ramones-people from that time period, and their language "Blitzkrieg Boppe?"

[@garytucker8696]

Possibly a thing meeting to marry and talk and plans for the coming years plan plus trading too noo doubt,the thing is a very ancient meeting,thank you for sharing.

[@zachyoung6537]

Great video, but I'd suggest slightly lowering the volume of the background music slightly.

[@woodslore8537]

Frisian was my great grandfathers last name.

[@MikeMafiaII]

Would you consider covering some of the history of the south/middle Netherlands during this time? For example, what was going on south of the Rhine during this time? Were there still people living in Traiectum or any of the former Roman forts? Was the south more Christianized? Or mostly pagan? Anyways, great channel, keep up the good work!

[@MaximusAwesomus2]

Met je laptop, haha lekker bezig weer van genoten!(zeker als strijder fries)

[@madilynnsma]

Following my Nissan family line back to the north Frisian islands during the 1700s.

[@Ballum_64]

Nice. From which island where they?

[@dutchik5107]

haha. I think I need to reread it. cause we read a part of it in English literature (history)class in Waldorf education in the Netherlands. we could read it okay in old English. but we do have a head start. since we speak dutch and modern English. And well the words sound kinda similar. or are just the same as modern dutch. pretty cool having a headstart.

[@williamcooke5627]

Second, I see no evidence in Beowulf that Hengest went back to Denmark for reinforcements. The poet says he was stuck in Finnsburh through the winter because the ocean was too stormy for a sea voyage. "Somebody* did make such a voyage in the spring, but from the poet's account I'd say it was Guthlaf and Oslaf. My guess is that Hengest decided to send *one* ship home in the spring with them in command, to tell the king what had happened, but would not risk his whole force or divide them further for fear that the Frisians would then attack whoever stayed behind in Finnsburg.

[@williamcooke5627]

There is one obscure Scandinavian source that suggests Guthlaf, Oslaf, and Hunlaf were three brothers. If so, the unnamed Hunlafing was Hunlaf's son and the nephew of the other two. Hunlaf *may* have died in the first fight, and his son *may* have placed his dead father's sword in Hengest's lap to plead for him to avenge this father.

[@williamcooke5627]

If I remember right, there is also a reference to Hunlaf by an obscure English chronicler named Godfrey of Malmesbury in his account of the Anglo-Saxon conquest of England. I *suspect* he had a complete text of the poem on the Fight at Finnsburh, and he seems to have thought that Hengest in the Finnsburh story and Hengest who conquered Kent were one and the same.

[@hansfaber8959]

there are two sources on the battle at Finnsburh, Beowulf and the Finnsburh Fragment: www.frisiacoasttrail.com/post/2017/07/02/tolkiens-plea-in-favor-of-king-finn

[@williamcooke5627]

@@hansfaber8959 I know that, thanks. i don't see how the fragment bears on my point.

[@hansfaber8959]

@@williamcooke5627 thought (because it is all Beowulf) maybe The Fragment would shed some light on it (it doesn't)

[@timoscholts2042]

about Jutes being gaints, the vikings called the world where gaints come from the jotunheim.

[@stonedape2406]

They think the jutes may of came from the modern region of bohuslän, or Alfheimr at the time, in west sweden, due to the high altitudes. This mountainous terrain over thousands of years could be home to a tall tribe of people who would stand out so much their name literally could mean giants. They were also probably related to the geats.

[@jaardpeer4148]

Wasn't the Anglo-Saxon invasion largely stimulated by the flooding of the Wadden Sea coastal area? I believe most of the Danish Wadden islands were cut off from the mainland during that period. Also modern day Ostfriesland's coast (i.a. Saxon habitat) was largely impacted.

[@jaardpeer4148]

Could you make a video about the Waddensea and the impact of it's floodings on North Sea Europe? About all the migration that it triggered?

[@AJ_B_]

.i think so for the saxons but not for the angles

[@CV_CA]

Around 7:45 the music is too loud.

[@mver191]

Perhaps this whole situation revolved around the same queen they would take back later to Denmark. Finn does something disrespectful to the queen, her brother Hnæf gets mad, then a fight breaks out. The Frisians get driven out of the hall, losing some thegns. The Danes take the queen hostage in the hall, preventing Finn from burning it down or starving them to death. Then they make some kind of treaty, on which the Danes later come back for some reason (Perhaps Finn kept abusing the queen) and attack the Frisians, kill Finn, and take the queen with them back to Denmark.

[@pm71241]

"Shield Danes" ... I know nothing about this, but in Danish pre-history myths are "Skjoldungerne" ("Skjold" meaning Shield). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scylding

[@philipsmeeton]

Sounds to me like Hengis may have been looking for a new outlet for his ambition when he moved to Britain. He may also have been forced to leave like those vikings that colonised Iceland. Even so the Northern European tribes did know a lot about each other and the Britons may have been considered inferior and easy prey. They were warriors prepared to plunder and conquer. Land and gold and blood and honour and status.

[@JeremiahBurns]

Thanks for this. I've not read anything on Finn and Hengest, really. But I've been going back through Beowulf (both Tolkien and Heaney) and wanted to understand better what the minstrel was going on about. Do you know if Tolkien's Finn & Hengest is a good introduction to the material for a novice?

[@hansfaber8959]

www.frisiacoasttrail.com/post/2017/07/02/tolkiens-plea-in-favor-of-king-finn

[@julesgosnell9791]

I expect that the Jutes took the opportunity, possibly by working on both sides, to play off the Danes and Frisians against each other, thus creating more opportunity for themselves. Hengist, may have come out on top not just with the Jutes but also with the Danes, if he was convincing. Whether it was with one or both, it looks as if this then created further opportunities for him, culminating in the conquest of Kent. Smart guy ! He played the game well and achieved immortality - we are still mentioning his name here today 1500 years later. BTW - what would levels of mutual intelligibility between the Danes and the Frisians have been like at this time ?

[@VRBLNSLT]

Magnus Frisia for ever 💪😎😂 Really loved this one, would love to see many many more high quality Frisian history vids like it. Thank you, you are awsome 🍻

[@Massigangster]

Dear Hilbert, are you aware of the REDBAD film? I was playing yesterday and this morning/night for one of its battle scenes. Definitelly something you will love! CHEERS!

[@RockerNate81]

I thought that Beowulf referred to Hnaef and Hengest as leaders of the "Half-Danes." I just assumed that the Jutes were in the northern part of Jutland, and the Danes were to the south of them. The "Half-Danes" were like a mixture of the two. Am I wrong?

[@FreekVerkerk]

It is very well possible that the Jutes were a kind of merceneries who where the survivors of the Finnsburg fight and were bought of by the frisians to leave Frisia, or they had completely robbed them and there was nothing more left for them. So out of work but with loot, they moved the England / Kent to repeat their successful fights.

[@stonedape2406]

Could be true, the jutes were probably related if not the same tribe earlier on as the geats, and this is supported by a fair amount of evidence.

[@whogoesthere4451]

half my family is from friesland, including west friesland (den helder) but i am 100% Brabants. dont know why i said it, but i like your channel watching it for a bit now and i love it.

[@historywithhilbert]

Thanks, I appreciate it! As I said in the video Finnsburh could just as easily have been in Zealand or Noord Holland as in modern-day Friesland :)

[@whogoesthere4451]

you made my day with a response, you truly are amazing

[@azrich2463]

Jo fergeat Kening Aerse, waans soan wie de oarspronklike Prins Healfaerse.

[@Melinmingle]

Shouts out to 0223

[@johnparker7784]

My family is from Friesland too but they left there around 1650 to settle in New York in the USA.

[@frisianmouve]

I'm also a frisian named Hilbert

[@henkvandergaast3948]

Really enjoyed it... Bur us older fellers have hearing issues (you'll get it too).. The exiting music during the Finnsbergh fight made the narrative unintellgible. As you can see by my name.. I enjoy this..

[@esbendit]

The Scyldings is a line of legendary danish kings. In modern danish it is Skjoldungerne, meaning the children of Skjold.

[@joonte1010]

Indeed, its counterpart in Svitjod was the ynglings.

[@RossFigurepaintingCoUK]

Interesting stuff. Maybe a relief force of Danes turned up with overwhelming force and the beseigers became the beseiged?

[@koosh138]

if that's the same Hengist that took Kent, where would the Saxons fit in to all this?

[@jasonhight6703]

The Britons called the Saxons after there short swords sai, maybe they were Danes/jutes that invaded Kent , but the Britons called the Saxons,

[@jacquelinevanderkooij4301]

They never did. Saxons did not live at coast.

[@bushwhackedonvhs]

@@jasonhight6703 “Saxon” was a self-applied name. There are continental Saxons who did not go to Britain and therefore never had extensive contact with British tribes.

[@bushwhackedonvhs]

@@jacquelinevanderkooij4301 Saxons absolutely did make up part of the peoples who went to Britain, specifically they went to the southern part. Modern Saxons live inland because the Franks (who later became the Dutch) moved in where the Saxons had left. Borders shift. Demographics shift. You can’t go off of modern extents of people groups to talk about history.

[@Iamthegreatestofalltime]

Why did the Danes make peace with Frisia if they were winning? Maybe because they preferred to avoid battle if possible as this behavior was shown in the Viking age

[@cjvaye99]

"BALLS! the king must never engage in direct battle!"

[@reginaldamoah8608]

Thanks for another interesting video. Just one question. So if Hengest conquered Kent how comes he kept the name Kent which was named for the Canti? Other places settled or conquered by Saxons or Angles were named after them.

[@user-td3mf9zy2k]

I love how you say *dead*

[@a.z.c.5462]

" Now we don't actually know if at this moment King Hoc was still alive, or if he was *_DEED_* "

[@Valerio_the_wandering_sprite]

English is not my native language and despite that, that pronunciation totally caught me off guard.

[@dutchik5107]

"wolff was a last name back then" (best friends last name is wolff)

[@moon_song]

Yeay I'm from Friesland

[@thefirstfogh]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scylding her you go :) i googled it in danish "skjoldungerne" and chose english in wiki try it.

[@SIG442]

I personally did not look into the matter, but I did find a few years ago some interesting claims. It seems the Frisians rather came from Greenland according to those claims as a large powerful merchant group. Being also tall people or as 'giants'. If i remember correctly, the Frisians in that information source would have been visiting the America's (Both North as South America), Asia and Most of Europe. According to that source the Frisians were the most powerful on the seas with the most men power and ships. This source even claimed that the Frisians had trading outposts (or enclaves if you like) on the coasts of Scotland, England (west coast), Frysia, Denmark, Germany (former Frysia), Norway and Sweden. Which would hint that the theory of some of the ideas in your video would actually match up in some form with the information I found then. But humans being humans, the winner takes all and changes history to it's liking. Even if that means destroying what came before or another culture. Unfortunately I lost the original source that mentioned this, but I did go on a quick search for you. I can't verify if these are any good, but it may at least be a good read I guess? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisland (nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisland) commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Atlas_of_Greenland (Scroll trough the images, you will find some interesting names on the images...) www.wikiwand.com/en/North_Frisia www.beccajjones.com/frisland-1/ (don't forget to look at the images on google when looking for Frisland)

[@jacquelinevanderkooij4301]

Ok Greenland has been settled long after the romans and after Charlemain. The romans traded with the frisians (from the first century)and moved frisians to England (in their armies) and Charlemain (around 800) wrote down our laws. So forget the Greenland story. The frisians were great traders. The Nortsea was called the frisian sea in the past.

[@SIG442]

The vikings clearly stated that there was a advanced civilization there before they even arrived in Greenland. A people that did leave buildings etc but no trace of them. That would indicate that there would have been a rather advanced civilization at least around the start of the calendar as we know it today or even before that. The Frisians as the vikings knew them were actually considered to be part of the viking culture as well. Which would obviously make sense later on with Grutte Pier for example who was a massive man with insane strength. It would also make sense regarding the Roman's and the Frisians that actually could easily beat them and fought them back all the way to Rome. More history that is today erased for some odd reason. For the North sea being the Frisian Sea before, yeah I did hear that as well and there are indeed texts that refer to that. The original size of the description of the sea running from the north of Norway to Calais and even between Norway and Denmark being part of it. And on the west side all the way to Greenland. There must be a very good reason why people fear the Frisians so much and why they try to cover up all details. There must be a lot more to it then just what we know so far.

[@Dextamartijn]

You should do a video about why friesians and Groningen's can't get along lol

[@matthijsstemmerik]

Dextamartijn hahahaha I like xD

[@corsijtsma3546]

Its all about the football🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Matthijsklaassen]

Its because Friesland is mentally stuck in 850 A.D., while Groningen has vision for the future with a world class university and one of the best start-up environments in Europe.

[@k.b.392]

@@Matthijsklaassen I have BOLTJE cousins in Groningen.

[@sebastiaanmeijer4922]

@@Matthijsklaassen ik wil niet vervelend doen. Ken je deze gezegde ook. "Er gaat niets boven Groningen". Kijk goed naar de eerste 2 woorden! Gaat er een belletje rinkelen? Rutte heeft nog een mooi cadeautje voor jullie na afgelopen verkiezingen! Ken nog wel wat EXTRA HULP GEBRUIKEN na alle aardbevingen.

[@Malegys]

So, are you half Frysk & half English? just wondering :). Love your channel btw

[@martinan22]

Scyldings are an old dynasty descended from Odin.

[@DillonRust]

I am a descendant of the Jute Royal Family through Cenwold Rust who held estates as Lord of the Manor in the County of Cent (Kent) from 1016-1066AD. There is no question that there were already Frisians, Latins, and Celts living in Kent before the arrival of Hengist and Horsa. In fact, Kent has always been one of the most diverse counties in England based on its close proximity to the continent. Even in the 11th Century when my family held power, there were also several Lords from other allied tribes. I have no problem with Frisians, it’s the Normans who you really have to watch out for. Hence the battle of Hastings in 1066

[@jacobsmith5603]

When does this happen in Beowulf and why is it included in Beowulf at all? (I have not read Beowulf yet)

[@Neenerella333]

Check out Leornende Eald Englisc's Epic Reading of the Finnsburh Episode From Beowulf in Old English. It's pretty cool and not hard to follow. The answer to your question is there.

[@Case2_0]

I’m of Frisian descent, so I love learning about my ancestor’s people

[@thomassugg3422]

Nice video iv always been interested in Anglo Saxon Story's.

[@jacquelinevanderkooij4301]

This is frisian-danish.

[@aukebij3193]

in a velum of redbard (stored at the frys museam) is spoken of murdering every woman man and child whitin 800 chains could that be the reson to surander? im a frisian an i know there were not the easiast bunch

[@ieuanpugh-jones5284]

Eot/ iotunheimr home/land of the giants in Norse mythology

[@johanvanderweele315]

i read in julius caesar bello gallico that the peoples of the now called netherlands where very tall . this could be roman propaganda but still, it's possible . and awlso i lurnd some where ( can't remember where ) that in pagan times the dutch where ass tall as whe are now and whe got smaller in the dark age . so the Frisians could have been tall.

[@johnsmith-eh3de]

My yDNA is R1b-U106 the Frisian clade.

[@hengistcane3120]

Excellent video.the frisians are probably the closest cousins to us anglo saxons.many thanks

[@nikedoesthings]

Ok so Grutte Pier was like the only tall Frysian at the time? XDD

[@Dutchofclass]

hey Hilbert, love your videos mate :) would it be possible to do a video on how the southern part of the Netherlands were 'conquered'/ ruled over by the hollanders and thus became a part of the kingdom? TA

[@johnanderson7663]

Why didn't they just set the hall on fire

[@hillmeu]

Your battery is running low. you might want to plug in your PC.

[@williamcooke5627]

This is a good treatment, Hilbert, but it hsn't changed my mind on several points.

[@williamcooke5627]

First off, I know of no evidence that Hoc was King of Denmark. He doesn't appear among the Danish kings mentioned in the opening of "Beowulf', The "Widsith' poet says Sigehere ruled the 'Sea-Danes' and goes right on to say that Hnaef ruled the Hocings, i.e. the people of Hoc. I think that Hoc, and Hnaef after him, were underkings or vassal kings ruling in Jutland under the King of Denmark, who at the time was most likely Hrothgar's father Healfdene.

[@williamcooke5627]

That would explain why Hnaef's men are variously referred to as Danes, 'Half-Danes', and Eotenas = Jutes.

[@williamcooke5627]

Other commentators notwithstanding, I see no reason to think there was more than one party of Jutes: the one that came with Hnaef to visit his sister and her husband. It comes down to how one interprets lines 1085-94 in Beowulf, which outline the truce terms, and I won't go into detail here.

[@k.b.392]

You mentioned you are a proud Frisian. What is your surname? As you can see my surname; Boltje is Frisian. ( www.tresoar.nl ) My Pake is from Friesland, NL. However, I was told my people migrated to Friesland from Giethoorn. These people are referred to as Gietersens. Since the majority of these Gietersens migrated around 1750 AD to Friesland for the peat bogs, I do not believe my people were from Giethoorn 'cause I traced the name BOLTJE back to 1625 in Friesland. BTW, supposedly, Giethoorn was settled 1230 AD by fugitives from the Mediterranean region. My dad used to tell us the Frisian were Viking. A history professor from Baruch College (NYC) told me the Frisian were Pirates. Love that...LOL. I have read that more Frisian immigrated to the USA & Canada than Dutch. The North Frisian in Germany consider themselves Frisian 1st, German 2nd. I believe, the Frisian in the Nederlands should do the same. I know, the Dutch tried to eradicate the Frisian culture & language. In 1955, the Dutch gov't. "ruled" the Frisian language an official language. The Frisian language dates way back before the Dutch language. AND as I understand the Dutch OWE their freedom to the Frisian. I read that the Frisii (original Frisian) were discovered/documented 12 BC BUT 4 AD they were gone from Magna Frisia. I was told the Frisian migrated to Kent, England & Flanders. After a few generations & the Anglo-Saxons wars broke out, these Frisian in England returned to Friesland/Magna Frisia. I, also, found a link that revealed Frisian artifacts were found in the Nederlands that date back to 1750 BC. I will be posting more.

[@Radsla]

Katrina Boltje Jellema proud of my lineage

[@k.b.392]

Your surname is Jellema..?? My Pake's first name was Jelle; Jelle Wiegers Boltje. His father, Wieger Jentjes Boltje. Wieger in the very old days was Wycher/Wicher....in my family at a baptismal, Wycher became Wieger. I'm related to every Boltje in the world EXCEPT Robert Boltje in Santa Cruz, CA, USA. The Germans changed his father's surname from Boltja/Boltya to Boltje when he immigrated from E. Europe into Germany. My dad was born in NYC; John Wieger Boltja...YEAH, my Pake changed BOLTJE to Boltja when he entered the USA the 3rd time. BTW, I have traced my lineage back to my 5 time great Pake, Hilbrand Boltje.

[@Radsla]

Katrina Boltje yes!! Jellema son of Jelle direct descendent of Wijerd Jelckama also . Proud of my Frisian roots glad to speak with another strong Frisian bloodline. Fryslân boppe

[@k.b.392]

ONLY 1/4 Frisian....but 22% Scandinavian...maybe the Danish...???

[@Radsla]

Katrina Boltje 10% Scandinavian 50% Frisian and 40% German (:

[@dennisvisser3910]

Pepole from norway have been discribed as giants by the english. Don’t know if iT might be relevant.

[@uwu-fm2kj]

Ha! I always thought no one knew about the frisians. Im quarter frisian and have a frisian name. This was interesting !

[@danielcox3152]

Near me there is Hengistbury Head :)

[@BonsaiBlacksmith]

As a descendant of the Angles I salute my Nordsee Brothers the Frisans. Wes du Hal?

[@AmySoyka]

17:37 Blue Power Alert.

[@Chaosdwarft]

Why is everybody treating Frisians as an obscure people. I am French and we studied Frisians briefly when talking about the Great Migrations and Dark Ages. Wtf are they teaching in school.

[@Jerbod2]

Here in the Netherlands the Frisian history is not being talked about much.

[@Chaosdwarft]

Manny Calavera Thank you for your explanation. I feel bad that this time period is being dropped in school programs.

[@Chaosdwarft]

Manny Calavera Thank you for your explanation. I feel bad that this time period is being dropped in school programs.

[@Spacefrisian]

Let me tell you: Prehistory/ Egyptians/ Rome/ Dark Age/ Middle age/ Crusades/ Renosaince? happened, small bit on Vikings, Napoleon/ Columbus were around, WW1 happened...And than to much on WW2 and than some more stuff happened...so alot of happening but nothing actually learned.

[@jacquelinevanderkooij4301]

We are very nice people 🤗 We do not learn anything about frisian kings or history. The only time we are mentioned is when they tell that there were 3 tribes in the past called the frisians(along the coast), franks(south) and Saksen(east) in our country. But we have the frisian cows and the frisian horses 🤣😂🙈

[@DonkeyEMakesYouWiserNow]

You should now that J is pronounced as y in most Germanic languages. I know basic Dutch and am fluent in German and I noticed how you pronounced Jutland as if there were a J and not a y pronunciation. It would be spelled Gutland if it were pronounced as a J and not a y.

[@bushwhackedonvhs]

Hilbert is Frisian and speaks Dutch, dude.