Why Did The Viking Age Begin ?

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The Vikings were a scourge on the coastlines of the British Isles and Ireland as well as those of the Franks and through the Mediterranean to Spain and Italy, but why did they start sailing across the sea and raiding monasteries and settlements in the first place?
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@tomurg
@tomurg 4 жыл бұрын
Denmark: We are going to build a wall and we are going to make the Franks pay for it
@goblinslaya7328
@goblinslaya7328 4 жыл бұрын
dead joke
@PunkerTrottzEltern
@PunkerTrottzEltern 4 жыл бұрын
Yeahhhh problem is, there where no countrys back than, because of the thought of nationalisme is a pretty new thing from the 18 hundrets. Also the first wall is from around the jear 400, whene the Frankish empier was not even a thing. comming from the area and where at the Dannevirke when they found out. And jeah im fun at partys.
@Maxibon2007
@Maxibon2007 4 жыл бұрын
Well…the Angles (who were from what is now Denmark) 300 year prior were doing the exact same thing to the Late Romans /Romano British, they then took over Britain, Christianised and the ones who remained “evolved” into the “proper” Vikings and started doing the same thing to them. Meanwhile the Welsh (the descendants of the Romano British) probably sat back muttering “how do YOU like it now!?”
@kevcaratacus9428
@kevcaratacus9428 4 жыл бұрын
@@Maxibon2007 the saxon pirates were attacking Roman merchant ships along the English channel & north sea from the 200 s onwards until end of Roman Britain. Costing the empire so much the Romans had a new ships built & deployed to protect the cross channel traders. The 1st navy designated to protect the channel. People think the Vikings were something original, but like you said it was happening almost 500 yrs before the Vikings started raiding this island.
@kevcaratacus9428
@kevcaratacus9428 4 жыл бұрын
@@Maxibon2007 the Welsh were a separate people with their own language already existed long before the Germanic tribes came to Britain. The Welsh English border wasn't anything like we have today . People from middle & even eastern England didn't all leg it to Wales when the saxons came . The Celts remained throughout the Roman ,saxon & Norman invasions, The regular people just adopted the new rulers ways & languages. Obviously thats a simplified version of a complex time . The main changers were at the top, the elite ( ruling ) classes .
@rubinhoho3393
@rubinhoho3393 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for providing quality content for us all again!
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 4 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome - thanks for the support!
@Rovarin
@Rovarin 4 жыл бұрын
In the Faroes they did a similar study on DNA as the one in Iceland. The results were similar to an extent, with male ancestry being 87% Norse and female ancestry being 84% Scottish/Irish.
@princekrazie
@princekrazie 4 жыл бұрын
We are currently in year 1226 VE, Viking Era, which starts with 793, the raid on lindisfarne.
@Skelstoolbox
@Skelstoolbox 4 жыл бұрын
NICE... Best comment on youtube... I'm gonna use that measurement too from now on.. God wouldn't it have been great to live then? I'd raid in a second for riches and women instead of slaving away for min. wage my whole life.. few job prospects here..
@Skelstoolbox
@Skelstoolbox 4 жыл бұрын
@@modlio745 Me? What edge, the bleak future and lack of social mobility in many western countries is less of an edge and more like a cliff.
@SynValorum1
@SynValorum1 4 жыл бұрын
@@modlio745 In the Dark Ages you can be King for a day! Traveling poet by night! And dead by highwaymen before sunrise!
@modlio745
@modlio745 4 жыл бұрын
@@SynValorum1 This sounds like the lyrics for a really good song.. I'm gonna steal this now, thnx : )
@Elenrai
@Elenrai 4 жыл бұрын
@@modlio745 "little to desire" One. Word. Honesty.
@Justaguy5678
@Justaguy5678 4 жыл бұрын
"This has been the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals." - Vikings
@Dominator046
@Dominator046 4 жыл бұрын
"Post down in the comments if you'd like to see a more specific video-" YES. ON ALL THINGS.
@110gotrek
@110gotrek 4 жыл бұрын
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
@110gotrek
@110gotrek 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the video by the way c:
@robinroos2254
@robinroos2254 4 жыл бұрын
Z E G M A K K E R
@silver_dem0n525
@silver_dem0n525 4 жыл бұрын
Classic
@possemis
@possemis 4 жыл бұрын
its not a History with hilbert video without the G E K O L O N I S E E R D meme
@Frahamen
@Frahamen 4 жыл бұрын
N E E N
@jackmarston2141
@jackmarston2141 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably my favorite source of viking history out there. I am a 29 year old with hardcore ADHD, but I love Viking history. Your way of teaching is extremely helpful.
@JamesAce
@JamesAce 4 жыл бұрын
loving it. just came back from being 1/2 months in north norway.. gotta love your timing
@sindreherstad8739
@sindreherstad8739 4 жыл бұрын
Hope it was nice :)
@NolanJohnson423
@NolanJohnson423 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you History with Hilbert for the awesome content these videos are so exciting
@tateisgod
@tateisgod 4 жыл бұрын
So to touch upon the hypothesis of trade implications regarding the Frankish, perhaps the raiding of Lindisfarne could be drawn from the fact that both the Saxons and the Frankish were Christian at this stage, and so were drawn together through that religion, as opposed to the pagan religion, and also were trading together so colluded to freeze the Danes out of trade, at which point the Danes decided to just take what they wanted? Possible?
@iainb1577
@iainb1577 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you back.
@hglundahl
@hglundahl 4 жыл бұрын
7:06 Obviously Icelandic names Njáll and Brján are Irish Niall and Brian, with somewhat shifted syllable structure.
@regular-joe
@regular-joe 3 жыл бұрын
I'm like the guy who commented on another of your videos - I'm starting to sing loudly (and imaginatively - don't know the words!) every time you play the Dutch anthem. Good fun.
@Woeschhuesli
@Woeschhuesli 4 жыл бұрын
I have wondered about this for ages, thankyou. It‘s difficult to find out about pre-Viking Scandinavian history in a coherent manner, I find.
@lordcommander3224
@lordcommander3224 3 жыл бұрын
Romans basically said, "There exists lazy Germans way up north".
@paladin_83
@paladin_83 4 жыл бұрын
Love this period in history. Please, keep it going!
@MrHedning
@MrHedning 4 жыл бұрын
I heard another reason and that reason was revenge on the Christians when Charlemagne entered Saxony. He waged war against the Germanic Saxons in the northeast, forcing Christianity upon them where around 4,500 Saxons were executed in 782.
@shanekonarson
@shanekonarson 4 жыл бұрын
MrHedning that’s the exact reason.
@bugzyhardrada3168
@bugzyhardrada3168 4 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure judging by the scale of it all, Its deeper then just that and larger then we think
@berserkerstrommortsgreb3131
@berserkerstrommortsgreb3131 4 жыл бұрын
Massacre of Verden.
@Galadrian70
@Galadrian70 4 жыл бұрын
exactly
@curtisderbyshire1541
@curtisderbyshire1541 4 жыл бұрын
All Germanic should have fought together
@jgr7487
@jgr7487 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering how long it would take for Hilbert to make a reference to the Netherlands or the VOC. it took 8:51
@Leffe123
@Leffe123 4 жыл бұрын
Great video
@mexicanshawarma5971
@mexicanshawarma5971 4 жыл бұрын
the viking age ended in the battle of Stamford bridge not the battle of Hastings
@frederikfoss4594
@frederikfoss4594 4 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@donfelipe7510
@donfelipe7510 4 жыл бұрын
You could argue that the Normans were the culmination of the viking age. Christian, literate but still war like and expansionist. Really the viking age lasted until the end of Norman royal dynasties around Europe.The battle of Stamford Bridge may have broken Danish and Norwegian power however Hastings was not the end of anything but the beginning of a viking golden age.
@Buildbeautiful
@Buildbeautiful 4 жыл бұрын
Of course the viking era did not end after the battle of stamford bridge what made you think that
@donfelipe7510
@donfelipe7510 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Buildbeautiful I suppose it depends of what constitutes the "Viking Age." By 1066 raiding in longships, viking in the strictest sense, was more or less a thing of the past in Northern Europe. Towns and cities were more heavily fortified and armies much better organised and able to repel raiders. Also by this time Scandinavia had largely become Christian so attacks on monasteries and churches which were the hallmarks of the early "Viking Age" had ended. However that said the Normans raised not only men for small scale raids but whole armies, England wasn't raided in 1066 it was invaded and conquered. The "Viking Age" for me ends with the assimilation of various ethnic groups like Danes, Norse and Normans into the country and instead of seeing such people as foreign invaders with a strange religion and language they were just people to be ruled.
@sleepinggiant1484
@sleepinggiant1484 4 жыл бұрын
@Tony Trojak Norman's may have been decendants of Vikings but they adopted frankish or French customs, religion etc. They were fierce nights and not Viking raiders that pillaged ans plundered. Not quite the same. 1066 and the end of the Anglo saxons rule. The Norman's influence is undeniable in both England and France.
@BListHistory
@BListHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Keep it up man :)
@jbussa
@jbussa 4 жыл бұрын
When you send your guests home so you can settle in for a History with Hilbert video. lol
@sanderskovly7641
@sanderskovly7641 4 жыл бұрын
We just had about this at university. We all got sad when we heard that Charlemagne sent an elephant to the danes, but it died in Netherlands on the way it. It would be so fking cool to have a viking-Hannibal saga ... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abul-Abbas And also, yeah I would love to see you do an episode on why increased population is a main reason for the viking expansion isn't a plausible one. Our professor also believed the two major factors were 1) too few women, 2) a desire for land, fame and wealth.
@franklinarchambault5397
@franklinarchambault5397 4 жыл бұрын
the way I heard it lack of land so the outcast and outlaws went a Viking and if not it sound like the best one to me
@spacecat5517
@spacecat5517 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested if you did a video on the scandalous topic!
@xiphactinusaudax1045
@xiphactinusaudax1045 3 жыл бұрын
which one?
@jasonknox9596
@jasonknox9596 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! I can't find the link for the publication Could somebody help me out? I'm planning to write my dissertation about the Viking age it would be really important Many thanks
@joshuag4624
@joshuag4624 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. What should have also been mentioned is the Indo European long standing tradition of the Mannerbund, in which young men are cast out to raid. In that sense the Viking age was merely a continuation of an ancient practice. Also, there’s no consensus on whether the earlie Anglo-Saxon invaders had sails on their boats, with no archeological evidence for it. Any sailer would know that having a sail isn’t the same as sailing. Just as the Roman, rowing there ships would have been standard practice with the Roman only using their sail to help them when the wind is favourable as a supplement to rowing. It could have well been the case that adding a sail onto the traditional north Western European Clinker boat added trading, which as you say was prevelant between the North Sea peoples, and now more frequent long distant raids to the ability for Danes and Norsemen to act out the tribal tradition of the Mannerbund
@zackflora6165
@zackflora6165 2 жыл бұрын
That would make sense as the VA started as an Eastern push toward Novgorod and became known as "rowers"
@katienewell7350
@katienewell7350 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Hilbert! I was wondering if you could point me in the direction of that Max Adams quote - you said it was from a talk he gave, do you know which one? It sounds like it'd be super useful for my dissertation!
@lmclm1755
@lmclm1755 Жыл бұрын
What about the earlier raids in Paignton in Devon and in Dorset c.780 or thereabouts?
@carolusrex5305
@carolusrex5305 4 жыл бұрын
Yes please do one on the mass shooting hypothesis. It sounds very interesting. 👍🏻
@666Maeglin
@666Maeglin 4 жыл бұрын
@Hilbert, where can I find a little more information about the nordic style frisian flag. As in Fries yn Denemarken sou ik graach wat mear witte wolle oer dy fryske flagge. En is dy flagge ek te keap?
@Giamesh
@Giamesh 4 жыл бұрын
The Walrus Ivory trade was very important. As the Umayyad caliphate took control over Spain in the early 700s, the traditional sources and trade routes for ivory was blocked for the Europeans. Scandinavians had access to walrus ivory and traveled further and further to the North and West to hunt the walrus. And discovered new land. Then they traveled South and East to sell it. Along the same routes the raiding also started.
@Vektordeformacio
@Vektordeformacio 4 жыл бұрын
Nice PowerPoint, Hilbert
@TL-24
@TL-24 4 жыл бұрын
Super interesting to hear the different theories and what you think of them! Pls more about the Vikings, so fascinating! WILHELMUS....... 🇳🇱
@jamesharris6893
@jamesharris6893 4 жыл бұрын
curious-- you talked a lot about the emergence of the vikings ships. but in many ways, the Angles, Saxons and Juts seem to be "very early vikings,' granted that except for the Juts, these peoples came from north Germania or what became the Netherlands and Friesland,for the most part. but these people also crossed the north sea or the channel to get to Britain. some literature on Saxon boats suggests a construction not very different from viking craft. I'd appreciate some more learned commentary on this. what was the significant difference, if any between viking and Saxon watercraft??
@Ghost-vi8qm
@Ghost-vi8qm 4 жыл бұрын
Thalia are you Dutch?
@jimmielindstrand9773
@jimmielindstrand9773 4 жыл бұрын
Could you maybe do a video on the Vendel period?
@TheDollhouseKiller
@TheDollhouseKiller 4 жыл бұрын
I am having flashbacks of Orkney
@Roikat
@Roikat 4 жыл бұрын
Charlemagne supposedly made the landlubber mistake of destroying the Frisian fleet of 3000 ships around 780 after defeating the Frisians on land, which one can assume would have left a North Sea naval and merchant marine power vacuum.
@blacktemplar9499
@blacktemplar9499 4 жыл бұрын
It begun when I went on a holiday to England
@8bitgubben
@8bitgubben 4 жыл бұрын
please make the video about the parallels between the viking age and today, would be very interesting
@ewweg
@ewweg 4 жыл бұрын
A norwegian king visited north jutland and heard of the teutons success in the south, do to uniting the 3 tribes in north jutland. And so he stated uniting all the tribes in scandinavia to stop all the infighting for resources and instead fight people far away for resources. He started by uniting everyone under the danes (~500 AD) since warry little was left of the teutons and svir after fighting the roman empire, and norway was too split. Only the remains of the svirs refused uniting under the danes, and wanted to go their own way, but agreed to stop the infighting. This is where they started implementing detachable sails for extremely far seatravels. People seems to forget or doesn't know that Denmark was the trading centerpoint between north/east and west europe since 40.000 BC, and had a lot of tradingrouts to the middle east since 2000 BC. Even the germanic tribes originated in scandinavia around 500 BC, and that migration-age was the predecessor of the viking age, vikings just used better boats and was closer related/connected.
@fredklier
@fredklier 4 жыл бұрын
Do the video of the current Era end the parallels with the viking age I really like your take on the subject.
@Brembelia
@Brembelia 4 жыл бұрын
Do both videos: the over population, and any parallels between the Viking Age and today's male crisis. More videos is always the better idea. Thanks!
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 4 жыл бұрын
What if the Virgin Islands remained Danish
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 4 жыл бұрын
They wouldn't be virgin for much longer?
@caolanfeely4317
@caolanfeely4317 4 жыл бұрын
History With Hilbert what if whilhelmus never existed
@boze77wolf
@boze77wolf 4 жыл бұрын
@@caolanfeely4317 The anthem or the prince?
@caolanfeely4317
@caolanfeely4317 4 жыл бұрын
Sinnermatic well I guess both
@boze77wolf
@boze77wolf 4 жыл бұрын
@@caolanfeely4317 He was the figurehead of the revolt against the Spanish. Without the break away from Spanish control the Dutch golden age wouldn't have happend. The Netherlands wouldn't become the savehaven for Portugese jews who run from Spanish inquisition and held the seamaps to the east. The VOC would never existed. The Dutch colonies never seized. The more than 200 years that the Netherlands was the only western country who was allowed to trade with Japan would have never taken place.
@donfelipe7510
@donfelipe7510 4 жыл бұрын
I think like most aspects of history the beginning of the "viking age" has many causes. Overpopulation, gender imbalance, technological shift in ship building and sense of religious persecution by a united Christendom against pagans are all valid points. I would suggest also that climate change had guiding hand in these events. Around the mid to late 9th century there were long periods of drought around the world. in Egypt the crops failed for ten years (c. 850AD) and essentially ended Egypt's previous role as the agricultural powerhouse of the Eastern Mediterranean. Also around this time the same climatic event forced Turkic steppe nomads from east of the Caspian sea to seek better pastures and brought them into conflict with the Armenians, Byzantines and the Arab Caliphates. I believe a general warming climate while destabilizing and disastrous for the areas further south may have had the opposite effect further north like in what is now France, England and Scandinavia, keeping the ice and snows away for more of the year and allowing better and more diverse harvests. It has been documented that grapes for wine production were able to be grown in Sweden while Western Europe generally began to surpasse the Eastern Mediterranean as the most wealthy and influential lands in Christendom. A more stable prosperous economy would also allow for expansion such as the Frankish conquest of the Saxons which may have sparked Danish aggression. The consequences of climate change on migration and the fortunes of nations are far reaching indeed. I'm aware that my dates for the drought in Egypt don't correspond to the beginning of Viking raiding however I think climate change takes time and may have been in the process of changing for decades or even centuries before. I would welcome peoples thoughts, I'm not well read on these things although I am aware these theories are out there. The KZbin channel History Time has some interesting in depth videos on these subjects.
@emsnewssupkis6453
@emsnewssupkis6453 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was warming up rapidly to the Medieval Warm Age. Made travel easy.
@rogermarlin3758
@rogermarlin3758 4 жыл бұрын
Yes climate change and over population is what mainly did it.
@magnusorn7313
@magnusorn7313 4 жыл бұрын
the medieval warm period was regional to the Atlantic just as the roman warm period was which enabled the roman empire to flourish, im sure it may have affected other places as well to a degree and completely different things could have been taking affect as well but globally temperatures would have changed slightly if at all
@emsnewssupkis6453
@emsnewssupkis6453 4 жыл бұрын
@@magnusorn7313 HAHAHA. Right. Yup. HAHAHA. Any and all excuses to pretend we have no global climate...wait! Ahem.
@emsnewssupkis6453
@emsnewssupkis6453 4 жыл бұрын
Oh oh, the reply was parked in the wrong place, Magnus Orn. Sorry about this. Sometimes happens on You Tube comments.
@ShermerIllinois
@ShermerIllinois 4 жыл бұрын
We Vikings Are Happy Vikings
@somtimesieat2411
@somtimesieat2411 4 жыл бұрын
0:00 when the Vikings sailed across the sea, comets crossed the skies that night, must have known something wasn't right
@thelucas1146
@thelucas1146 4 жыл бұрын
I love that in nearly every video you play my national anthem 🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱
@NashTheGreat
@NashTheGreat 4 жыл бұрын
Not your's, but your people's.
@christophedel2642
@christophedel2642 4 жыл бұрын
So interesting greetings from Normandy
@tommy-er6hh
@tommy-er6hh 4 жыл бұрын
Are you going to do a simlar video about the start of some of the germans from Sweden (goths, vandals, others) Denmark (cimbri, tutones) into the south? - oh, yes on the other video, btw. Q: btw, what is the address of that reading you mentioned? I don't see it.
@historicalminds6812
@historicalminds6812 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Hilbert, do you think you would be interested in doing one about the Indo-European Expansion? Also didn’t climatic factors play a role in the origins of the Viking age, such as the Medieval Warm Period?
@raphmaster23
@raphmaster23 Жыл бұрын
There's speculation that the Charlemagne Saxon slaughter started the viking age.
@erikgranqvist3680
@erikgranqvist3680 4 жыл бұрын
Most likley is that the raids started due to a number of reasons that converged into a few important points of decission.
@marksharpe5384
@marksharpe5384 4 жыл бұрын
Yes to the idea of that video.
@matthewread7220
@matthewread7220 4 жыл бұрын
Please do that video on the gun stuff, love your chanel mate.
@jesperburns
@jesperburns 4 жыл бұрын
I like how you cycle through accents.
@micahistory
@micahistory 4 жыл бұрын
I never realised trade could have been a case for this to start
@pintAdark
@pintAdark 4 жыл бұрын
#HistoryWithHilbert Excellent thought provoking video Hilbert. Please make the video comparing the modern US (Maybe expand to Western?) clash of values between the sexes and the Viking Age clash.
@hglundahl
@hglundahl 4 жыл бұрын
11:43 So, Franks made a probable trade sanction against Danes, and then a near Apocalypse of Vikings started for Frankland and England?
@jonaseliasson5502
@jonaseliasson5502 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Hilbert, you are right about almost everything but missing one thing. You are right about the better sails for the ships, but there was also the keel. A far more important feature. The deeper and stiffer keels of the eighth century not only make the ships stronger, but meant better navigation possibilities in adverse winds. That is the prevailing west wind in the North Sea. The problem was to get to England. Go back was OK.
@masonlemons6389
@masonlemons6389 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid, is it old news that this is the metatron?
@yaroon2850
@yaroon2850 4 жыл бұрын
Hoi Hilbert, At 13:45 in your video you cite Alcuin of York's letter as if he was referring to "Scandinavians", whereas the text on screen just says "pagans". Was the term "Scandinavia" even used in 793? Some historian once said that "Scandinavia" begins in Harlingen (Friesland, NL), at the statue of the stone man (Stenen Man). In that context, Scandinavian / pagan hairstyles may include Frisian hairstyles. Being a Frisian yourself, you know very well that the Frisians were the coastal, seafaring cousins of the Jutes, Angles and Saxons. Frisian traders crossed the North Sea (a.k.a. Mare Frisicum) long before the viking age. Probably, Frisian ships were used in the Anglo-Saxon migration, but Frisians didn't settle in Britain in large numbers themselves. (they sailed right back home to heit and mem) Frisians were stubbornly pagan, just like the people that later became known as Vikings. Paganism caused conflict with the stubbornly Catholic Franks. Many male pagan Frisians may have fled North, which may be one explanation for the imbalance of the sexes. So... If Alcuin was complaining about Scandinavian / pagan hairstyles, he could as well have been referring to the hairstyles of Frisian traders.
@berserkerstrommortsgreb3131
@berserkerstrommortsgreb3131 4 жыл бұрын
Massacre of Verden. Retribution.
@_robustus_
@_robustus_ 4 жыл бұрын
Hilbert, whats up with that rune stone you’re using as a subliminal message?
@5amH45lam
@5amH45lam 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to hear the over-population story, as it's something I wasn't familiar with. Great videos, BTW. Thanks for the upload. 👍
@age3801
@age3801 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't the anglo-saxons came from Danemark? Is possible they were still in contact with the relatives tribes from the regions they came form.
@user-gj1np9rp4d
@user-gj1np9rp4d 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, they came from Northern Germany southern Denmark And Frisia. The one who stayed behind became Saxony and then got conquered by Charlemagne.
@modlio745
@modlio745 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-gj1np9rp4d 'Ludvi[g]'? How the hell are everyone getting these rune usernames?
@user-mq5xt5jf4o
@user-mq5xt5jf4o 4 жыл бұрын
According to old writings the brothers Hengist and Horsa from northern Jutland (Denmark) were invited by the English king to help against the threat from the Scots after the fall of the Roman Empire. They led the Angels (from the southern part of Denmark) the Saxons (from today’s northern Germany and most likely also some Frisians from the Netherlands. Hengist is considered to be the first king of Kent. Whether their names quoted in old writings are the real names, is debated. But the Jutes definitely came to England at the same time as the rest of the “gang”, in the 5th century, 250 years before the Viking Age started.
@c.i.a8359
@c.i.a8359 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-mq5xt5jf4o There was no such thing as English back then. The English were the anglo saxons.
@user-mq5xt5jf4o
@user-mq5xt5jf4o 4 жыл бұрын
@@c.i.a8359 You are right.
@gemino4910
@gemino4910 4 жыл бұрын
So you're telling me the viking age was the incel uprising?
@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 4 жыл бұрын
When the exact opposite of feminism creates incels too. *insert sad pepe*
@salahgamal5516
@salahgamal5516 4 жыл бұрын
@@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin imbalance creates incels
@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 4 жыл бұрын
@@salahgamal5516 i kno
@lovinglydull
@lovinglydull 4 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. For centuries beforehand, armies were made up of what is basically weaponized incels.
@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 4 жыл бұрын
@@lovinglydull Yeah, apparently merovingians did the same
@chariotrider9716
@chariotrider9716 4 жыл бұрын
Did he put the meme page in the description? I don't see it.
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 4 жыл бұрын
You're right I forgot but updated now. Here it is: facebook.com/theblacksteedofWidukind/
@tonymultani
@tonymultani 4 жыл бұрын
It was Floki who built the long ships for the Vikings
@Embracehistoria
@Embracehistoria 4 жыл бұрын
Eric Bloodaxe is my favourite Viking.
@peterharrald2024
@peterharrald2024 4 жыл бұрын
Eric was one of my rellies
@dracovagari6228
@dracovagari6228 4 жыл бұрын
What is the flag you use for frisia never seen it befor
@wes3898
@wes3898 4 жыл бұрын
Josh McDougall True flag of Frisia
@lievenpetersen
@lievenpetersen 3 жыл бұрын
Might as well call your channel "Comparing history to the Netherlands. With Hilbert"
@mattaffenit9898
@mattaffenit9898 4 жыл бұрын
The reason I believe more strongly - look south. The Franks and Norse did _not_ get along. At all.
@hypercomms2001
@hypercomms2001 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the Viking Age started was because of Kirk Douglas... !!
@hglundahl
@hglundahl 4 жыл бұрын
17:12 I know one of my friends is into shooters being InCels.
@hglundahl
@hglundahl 4 жыл бұрын
For my part, I think practical school compulsion, both via InCel-dom and otherwise by imposing misery (notably psychiatric such) contributed to shootings.
@JohnnyLodge2
@JohnnyLodge2 4 жыл бұрын
If the north germans could sail to england why wouldn't the Danes be able too?
@micahistory
@micahistory 4 жыл бұрын
Those are some very interesting thoeries
@dieallgemeinheit2247
@dieallgemeinheit2247 4 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity - I've read that in the Germanic cultures there was the practice of "Muntgelt" - where the husband to be pay a price to free (The current German word "freien" still stems from that) his future wife from the "Vormundschaft" of her father. I know that this practice remained intact for a long time in northern Germany and we learned that this was changed over time after christianization. Could you, maybe, check these practices? Pretty please :)
@styrbjornulfhamr9404
@styrbjornulfhamr9404 4 жыл бұрын
The sail wasn’t a reason - Angles & Jutes came from modern Denmark on ships without sails. The tipping point was the retaliatory strike on English monastaries because the monastaries provided the source of many monks & priests in the expanding ‘crusades’ of Charlemagne against the pagan Saxons and Frisians, who were allies & trading partners with the Danes. The Danes were not strong enough to attack Charlemagne, so they retaliated by attacking the monastaries. This horrified the Carolingians who would sometime pay ransoms for captured monks & priests as well as buy back bibles & relics stolen by the Vikings. This stopped the forced conversion of pagans, but word quickly spread that there was opportunities to be exploited abroad and the raids expanded, eventually transforming into colonization. There were many factors that came together and made the Viking age what it was, but the casus belli that sparked it all was Charlemagne who massacred pagan Saxons who would not convert to Christianity. You can research the Massacre of Verden when 4,500 Saxons were massacred. It is also interesting to note the many writings of English monks who lamented the fury of the Northmen as a punishment from God. These monks understood the retalitory nature of the early raids, and knew about the massacred pagans. Paybacks a bitch.
@jacobobrien4267
@jacobobrien4267 4 жыл бұрын
What's the meme page called ?
@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo
@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo 4 жыл бұрын
the Danes raided Friesland long before Lindisfarne. And before that, the Wikings raided eachother.
@SynValorum1
@SynValorum1 4 жыл бұрын
That explains the DUTCH!!!
@MuddieRain
@MuddieRain 4 жыл бұрын
Just case you were wondering. 8:52
@user-hx1nr9ru1p
@user-hx1nr9ru1p 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be very interested in that video.
@noahtstapp
@noahtstapp 4 жыл бұрын
I like to think the reason was fighting the same people over and over, Knowing that they have no valuables and trying to sail elsewhere
@SuperFunkmachine
@SuperFunkmachine 4 жыл бұрын
The ship question is bit false as earlier ships could sail around the coast of germany, even the bronze aged Dover Bronze Age Boat could of done that with ease.
@jamesharris6893
@jamesharris6893 4 жыл бұрын
Even early Celtic coracles got around pretty well, even cross channel, etc.
@mpgnz73
@mpgnz73 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It's been stated that the Jutes likely sailed along the Frisian islands which they used as a launching pad into Kent and the Isle of Wight. There's no reason the Vikings couldn't do the same. The emergence of a ship capable of sailing directly to England is a red herring.
@sweetlibertea763
@sweetlibertea763 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear your thoughts on men in the modern day.
@pew-pew2224
@pew-pew2224 4 жыл бұрын
There is something I think that people tend to miss and that is the fact that Scandinavia at this time seems to have a very militarized society from the start. It seems that Scandinavians during the Roman empire and maybe later usually made a lot of money being axillary troops/mercenaries for others. This combining with the "weak kings" argument(that seems to be that Europe was in a period of relative peace so it spent less of defenses then previously) would mean that you had a lot of people getting rich by being mercenaries. This would mean that you had societies with well trained armed men that hold power who no longer could find any income. So raiding would solve this problem and could be another driving force for the viking age.
@VelMa-opinion
@VelMa-opinion 3 жыл бұрын
So I've developed this fiendish obsession with history, and I've given lots of thought in addition to some serious study of known factual evidence. It seems to me, that the "Viking age" was in part started by these two things: a) instead of choosing chieftains by valour in combat (and personal combat) Scandinavians had picked up the idea of inheritance, of both chieftains and land rights; b) because the inheritance fell on the eldest son, younger sons were forced to find their own fortunes. There's clear suggestion that the Viking raiders were wealthy to begin with (weapons of iron, boats), and trained, so they thought rather than be subject to their own family, they'd take a risk. Add this to what you suggest, combined with the idea that they didn't hit upon Lindisfarne upon having crossed the North Sea, but were likely sons of people who had much more convenient access to British coast.
@lluvik2450
@lluvik2450 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see how sophisticated their society actually was. I always had this idea that they were scavengers and whatnot. I knew they weren't but that is still the way i pictured them. Turns out they actually had quite an established society
@ulrikschackmeyer848
@ulrikschackmeyer848 3 жыл бұрын
So you are saying that the early disgrundled Norse traders used a sword tip to 'flip the trade balance'?
@jessedrawingstuff1350
@jessedrawingstuff1350 4 жыл бұрын
That thing you said at the end. Do that
@VoiceInTheCyberness
@VoiceInTheCyberness 2 жыл бұрын
It is hard to believe that the environment could allow a population explosion but the Avars and possibly other tribes from The East were looking for a home, this to me seems more plausible
@radoslavliptak3842
@radoslavliptak3842 4 жыл бұрын
Why did they start with lindisfarne then. Not many women in a men’s monastery?
@jackkennard4539
@jackkennard4539 4 жыл бұрын
I did read a report the LindisFarme was thought to be in response to a brutal savage battle by Charlemagne that included forced Baptisms to Pagans just before beheading them (some 7000 Pegans).
@duwang8499
@duwang8499 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackkennard4539 Yeah, the massacre of Verden. Where more than 4000 Saxons were behearded for not converting.
@frederikklotzskov9673
@frederikklotzskov9673 4 жыл бұрын
What do you have agents the Dutch?
@magnusorn7313
@magnusorn7313 4 жыл бұрын
agents
@magnusorn7313
@magnusorn7313 4 жыл бұрын
hes dutch i think
@tmikesecrist3
@tmikesecrist3 4 жыл бұрын
Hilbert I think i would like to hear about posable coraltions with gun violice you cant not solve a problem with out first accrueatly iding the porblem
@mrleonardgames1790
@mrleonardgames1790 4 жыл бұрын
why not
@horisontial
@horisontial 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Hilbert. I would love to see that video on why the overpopulation theory is problematic in Scandinavia. Many tribes and peoples have to my knowledge lived on the Danish isles and Jutland in the last few millennia and have migrated due to competition from other tribes, such as the Danes. I thought the most supported theory was that the younger sons and bannermen (for a lack of a better word) of the nobility sought west because of lack of new land to expand into and lack of possibility at home.
@hazzmati
@hazzmati 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny cuz in the show Vikings they are talking as if there is nothing to the west of Scandinavia but myths. It makes no sense for the scandinavians not to know Britain they probably started trading with them long before the viking raids
@_robustus_
@_robustus_ 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe their ships really sucked before Floki.
@grubbybum3614
@grubbybum3614 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Hazz, I see you in Tyrannicon videos. He he he, huh...
@hazzmati
@hazzmati 4 жыл бұрын
Grubby bum hey man that’s cool. Haven’t watched or commented in a good while though. Tyr’s cool but I don’t like how he has put half his content behind a paywall. And he doesn’t do the throthgae voice like before anymore.
@grubbybum3614
@grubbybum3614 4 жыл бұрын
@@hazzmati yeah, he should put more focus on doing the old voice. He has a video everyday now though, including darksouos. I think the stuff behind pauwall was just extra content that wouldn't have been uploaded to KZbin anyway, so I got no problem with that.
@user-mq5xt5jf4o
@user-mq5xt5jf4o 4 жыл бұрын
"they probably started trading with them long before the viking raids". Well more than that. The Jutes and the Angles that settled in England hundreds of years before were Danes, and the Saxons shared borders with the Danes. It really amazes me that it seems historians think that the Scandinavians had forgot how to sail to England.
@AdamNoEve
@AdamNoEve 4 жыл бұрын
Don't worry about that future video comparing Viking raiders to today's InCels, I'll cover it. ;)
@insanity8108
@insanity8108 4 жыл бұрын
im swedish thanks :)
@vacatiolibertas
@vacatiolibertas 4 жыл бұрын
In my schooling, the cause if the Viking Age was always taught as overpopulation. So I'd love to see another video on why this may not have been the case
@zetos4440
@zetos4440 4 жыл бұрын
hilbert you dont even play vikings war of clans, you play dat good ole Mount&Blade mate
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