The Fix for Unreal Engine's Most Hated Feature!

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[@LudvikKoutnyArt]

I've been saying this for years: It's really embarrassing that a corporation which primarily focuses on developing high end, high performance game engine fails to create a launcher which can rasterize a few dozen of 2D UI elements on modern RTX GPUs and modern 20+ thread CPUs at more than single digit framerates. That's something even PS2 era hardware could do smoothly. There's really no excuse other than laziness.

[@pacomatic9833]

Thought for a minute you were talking about the engine. But yeah, the launcher is absolutely abysmal. I have no idea how they even managed to make it run that terribly. It's honestly impressive.

[@Freelancer837]

Epic has always been inconsistent quality. Every other Unreal Engine is bad.

[@dreamisover9813]

This is awesome! It's bafflng how a company like Epic can have such a slugglish launcher as they have. Sometimes it stalls half a minute for me when I start. And every click feels like it takes 1 second to be processed. I guess most clicks need to make a request to their backend and wait for a response before the client is able to load anything else.

[@brandonwinston]

Baffling!!!!!!

[@Sen3D]

From their github: "You can use a "|" (pipe) symbol to separate multiple paths for the Launcher to check for projects, engines, and vaults." Weird, but at least it works.

[@cthutu]

The most hated feature of unreal is not the build system and slow build times?

[@gamefromscratch]

Ok yeah, not gonna lie, build times are hell. The first time I built for android was... eye opening. Then eye closing, as I fell asleep waiting.

[@therollo9]

W8 that's a feature?

[@cthutu]

Working on a game, I had build times of 40 mins by changing a single line in a .CPP file. Let alone the startup time. I've turned down companies because they use unreal.

[@lpnp9477]

​​@@cthutuow long ago was this? That's not really a thing anymore. I work on engine plugins and if a change doesn't support hot reload, compiling takes a minute tops from button to viewport.

[@maxmustsleep]

Haven't had any trouble with it honestly. Maybe it's improvements of the past few years but with decent hardware you should be alright. Like with every complex and very large tool there are project specific settings you can use to improve it. But especially builds after the first one should be pretty quick.

[@beefkd]

doesn't work, the Epic shit installer won't even install, now I got this asset manager and it can't install UE5 either because it won't even show me any options in the download list how FUCKING hard can it be to provide some software without being forced to use their stupid garbage

[@azaelsergal]

Looks like a great tool! Also just a note, but the EG Launcher also has a vault management but it just doesn't sort them by downloaded, there is an option called "Remove Local Content" to delete the vault cache of each asset pack (not plugins though but they don't take that much space). I wish the EG Launcher had a collections feature to group packs of assets and batch download, or batch update... But hey, FAB is coming later this year and it might be better, right?

[@gamefromscratch]

The problem with Remove Local Content is finding all of the things that are installed. If you could just say "show me only installed content" then life would be grand! But when you've got a few hundred assets like me, slowly scrolling through them to find the installed ones is frustrating and time consuming.

[@azaelsergal]

@@gamefromscratch Yeah I understand that, I also have hundreds of assets installed, I just never delete them because I don't want to wait if I ever need them

[@TrojanLube69]

I basically use UE launcher offline when developing or using local assets or want to delete local assets. Very fast compared to online.

[@TrojanLube69]

What kills the launcher is the network data use. If they can make it offline and only request data when loading details of packs in the marketplace or store it would be 10000xs faster.

[@YonderYoshi]

At 3:51, you have Unreal Engine 5 versions listed in the dropdown, however I only have Unreal Engine 4 versions listed, with the latest that is listed being "4.27.2.Chaos".

[@unaisanchez2696]

Just what I needed! Epic launcher works really bad... Thank you!

[@vaibhavjaiswal799]

Don't know about all, but we need this local asset management feature for unity as well (plus I also notice unity leaves the installer of every version you install in the memory, which for newer versions is more than 2gb)

[@combosloth1677]

this is a phenomenal find. the only thing keeping me from switching to Linux was the fact the Epic Launcher wasn't compatible.

[@SanneBerkhuizen]

This is kinda neat. Perhaps the very capable progammers from epik can fix their launcher one Day. Anyway. What I would love to see is: the ability to search in your assets somehow.

[@nextlifeonearth]

The capable programmers are working on the engine core. The rest are working on other stuff. The intern full stack dev probably made the store.

[@SanneBerkhuizen]

@@nextlifeonearth Yes, so if the Smart guys would like to fix, that would be very convenient

[@KomodoBitGames]

There is no speed issues on the EGS launcher anymore, everything is snappy after first load. The only two places that are still slow are the samples tab and the marketplace tab but they are getting rid of it in a few months for fab so it doesn’t matter.

[@sir.niklas2090]

Thanks, immediately downloaded it. :P Save time launching a project!

[@IShoePets]

Hopefully I'll never need this (don't use UE), but I wanted to leave a comment to help interaction. Thanks for sharing, my friend!

[@Ryhon]

Epic Asset Manager is also a good alternative for Linux

[@apollolux]

Epic Game Launcher runs on CEF (Chrome Embedded Framework). That alone is responsible for a lot of the resource drain of the thing. I found this out in the past few days when running EGL myself for the first time to get and run UE5 to try out the recently released Cropout sample project Epic released.

[@aburak621]

The vault works for me. The names are correct and it even shows the thumbnails :). Also thank you Mike for bringing this to our attention

[@Beryesa.]

Much better news for those who wanted to manage UE5 on Linux

[@DarthBiomech]

I've heard a rumor that Epic game launcher hogs so much memory and is so slow because it's actually spying on you when it's running (a Chinese company owns almost half of Epic)

[@kiririn39m8]

wellm and here i was expecting a tool for blueprints removal, in to a plugin or in to oblivion, debloating of engine code, decoupling Gameplay Framework from engine, save assets with a ".meta"-like text file like unity or godot does instead of dealing with them as a binary, unify actors and component in to a single entity like other humane engines do (unity, godot, etc), but alas. Sadly i never used launcher to begin with as my game uses engine from source

[@KomodoBitGames]

I like the epic games launcher, it loads fast for me. Only place that has issues is the marketplace and samples tab but epic is moving away from that with fab in a few months anyways so I don’t think they care much

[@GoddamnSuperhero]

Any suggestions for the format for the "Base Unreal Engine Paths". I put my Epic games folder from program files and its not finding them. Also what's the delimiter for using multiple paths?

[@jakubpulka]

Epic mega grant is just waiting for him! xD

[@PurpleKnightmare]

It lacks function too though. Like brows for folder on where to install.

[@Sylfa]

It says on the download page that the CLI version doesn't work on the portable version for windows, you have to download the version with the installer. At which point it'll start faster and have the CLI, but of course, not be portable.

[@JohnnyMayHymn]

I wonder if the console would work on Windows with Git Bash

[@TheVideogamemaster9]

Now if only this could also launch games, this would get me to actually play stuff from my EGS library. I can't even scroll through the titles I own on my RTX 3080 PC. GOG Galaxy helps with this, but then it needs to spend 10 minutes opening the EGS launcher and doing all the other slow junk it has to go through just to install or launch a game.

[@overbyte]

This is amazing for Linux users who previously had to build our own engines and didn’t have any easy access to the marketplace assets. Thanks @gamesfromscratch 👍

[@CrudelyMade]

take all the thumbs! It's surprising this isn't considered more of an issue. I'd love to be able to run a query of some sort.. maybe sql.. but in reality an advanced search across the assets and/or their descriptions.. which might be scraped from the marketplace. I just want to be able to find 'trees' or 'anime' trees would be easy, anime would be from the descriptions area of the asset.. and.. well, being able to 'folder' these things, and maybe the folders are dynamic, so 'anime' folder would have anime things including anime style trees and trees would just be all trees.. so.. dynamic search folders I could set up and maybe run an update against every so often to update the content in each folder (it doesn't have to be live)... just dynamic. ;-D maybe... creating some kind of XML file that holds info for each asset, and then search and dynamic folders based off the info in that file / those files...

[@Drejzer]

Are you talking about Heroic Launcher? Or something else? So probably no, since heroic is the Linux game launcher, now that I think about it.

[@zachjackel]

I'd like to use unreal but Epic launcher is just such a steaming pile I'm looking for workaround for their launcher instead of using the engine. What a terrible company.

[@AleksandarPopovic]

Wow, if work on linux, that is the news, real news! Personally I don't likes the version 5 and up zip files for Linux, but situation is giving what you Givin, must is recommend I use 4.2.7 version and that is really ok, but it's good to try this, lot of space ro build unreal use that is the madness.....good news thank you, best channel I still watch!

[@Uncle_Fred]

The Epic store launcher isn't great, and this looks promising. However, how does it handle accounts? I'd be super leery about giving out my account information to some unknown third-party.

[@goforbrokefilmstudios]

Since it requires entering my login info, I'll stick with the open source Epic Asset Manager project for now. At least until this project releases the source code like their github page says they will do someday. That way I can verify with my own eyes that my login info is secure.

[@gamefromscratch]

I should have shown this in the video, but sadly I had already logged in. The log in is actually using Unreal's login server and I believe an OAuth token. Of course it's always possible the app is scraping your keyboard, that is always a risk with any locally installed application, but it does not take your username or password.

[@jimmyraconteur]

Dude, if I could give you and the creator like 14 thumbs up for this app!!!!!!

[@igorthelight]

Give them 5$ instead - MUCH more useful ;-)

[@sk.mahdeemahbubsamy2857]

It takes me ages to go from store to unreal tab....its super laggy

[@KomodoBitGames]

It takes me 2 seconds

[@sk.mahdeemahbubsamy2857]

@@KomodoBitGames really? How?....in mobile its even more atrocious

[@igorthelight]

@@sk.mahdeemahbubsamy2857 Epic Games Launcher works fine on top end PCs. Developers just don't care for others ;-)

[@KomodoBitGames]

@@sk.mahdeemahbubsamy2857 The egs launcher isn't on mobile, I use the website on mobile all the time, and its fine.

[@KomodoBitGames]

@@igorthelight it works the same on my 2016 Macbook. people just like to hate epic games for no reason because it's trendy. Almost all of the loading for the store stuff is done on the servers not locally. the epic launcher caches the data so once you load a tab after a cold boot of the app it will be instant, otherwise it has to fetch data like images and other stuff from the server which can take a few seconds. Epic is still improving it even further though.

[@NuttachaiTipprasert]

And I thought the most hated feature of Unreal Engine was the editor constantly crashing. Wait? It's not a feature? My bad, then.

[@weirdshit]

The only thing that solved for me was using MSI afterburner. Not sure what was the issue with unreal but it seems to cause either overheating or power surge when using the engine.

[@krukhlis]

On my HP Omen laptop (Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10750H, RAM: 64 GB, GeForce RTX 2070 Super, Win 10 Pro) I've never had any UE crashes with both version 4 and 5.x. The only crashes that I've encountered are well known bugs that are not fixed yet even in 5.2 -- if you connect another monitor and it has different resolution and frequency than the monitor where UE runs -- UE will crash, especially if you are in material or blueprint editor screens. The fix is simple -- you need to configure your monitors to have the same resolution and frequency. After that -- no issues at all.

[@julkip]

I have been using the Epic Asset Manager instead of the Epic Lancher for Unreal for several months now (on Linux) It seems that this is essentially the same thing.

[@gamefromscratch]

It is EXACTLY the same thing. They rebranding because Unreal Launcher was in trademark violation.

[@fernandovicent6429]

Vault need folders to organize assets

[@keithprice1950]

The thing I hate most about Unreal is the huge install size (even after changing the options) and RAM usage. Unity has never crashed for me but Unreal is always crashing and locking up. I don't have a potato PC either.

[@gideonunger7284]

at work we only use custom unreal builds so i never have to interact with the launcher anyway.

[@zendraw3468]

glad to see unreal is separating slowly from epic

[@shotgun1995hot]

Let's see how long this is going to last and lastly what is the catch here ? 2:37

[@gustavolrcoelho]

The problem with the Unreal UI is exactly function over form. It's there, it works, but it is terrible looking, it is slow, but it is there. I wonder if they jus use all their good devs in the engine and there is no one else left to fix the god damn launcher.

[@maxmustsleep]

I think with their upcoming FAB marketplace that has its own launcher they don't want to invest more time into the old launcher.

[@TemporaryVoid]

Epic game launcher take so many resources that it's feels like it's packed with a bitcoin miner. It's slower than my grandma and searching for free assets is a hassle (ever expanding 58 pages library but still the inability to hide the already own assets). PS : If you check only : at beginning of the month, or in the "free for the month" category, or the first few pages of the "free" category then, you are doing it wrong (temporary free asset can pop on page 47 for 5 days as long as it has been created a while ago).

[@SoDaPrice1998]

I hope they don't get in the crosshairs of Epic Games for streamlining the process...

[@igorthelight]

Heroic Games Launcher is on market for more than a year and it's still alive ;-)

[@tech-bore8839]

Nice to see Linux getting some more love from developers.

[@Barldon]

"For some reason, I have no idea why, the epic games launcher is taking up 80% of my GPU" Oh, oh I know exactly why. Because it's an unreal application 😂

[@KomodoBitGames]

It uses under 2-3% on my PC

[@Barldon]

@@KomodoBitGames I'm sure the 80% was a hyperbole, but the point is that it's incredibly slow

[@bobbyr]

The launcher is extremely slow, has been on all my machines. I can't understand how bad it is, if I go to the store it takes me 1 min of waiting before I can even scroll the list.

[@2changJRPGmusic]

Took me like 16 hours to get ue5 because the launcher kept stalling or crashing while trying to install it lol

[@Art_911]

Very cool! Thx!

[@grinningtiki220]

Also looks like all the free for the month stuff I have been collecting is not compatible with UE5.2.1. What a shame really.

[@DanRioDev]

You know what? Linux never had Unreal Launch and all the Asset Manager like this always existed

[@watercat1248]

This have the epic games as well ?

[@igorthelight]

Heroic Games Launcher have ;-)

[@watercat1248]

@@igorthelight the heroic launcher is not only for Linux ? Or the have Window's version as well ? Because I use Window's not Linux

[@igorthelight]

@@watercat1248 Available for Windows, Linux and MacOS X ;-)

[@shapeshifterstudios884]

Freaking awesome 👌 👏 👍

[@Lavonne1]

You can switch off the games shit in settings Mike

[@UltimatePerfection]

That's useful, but I really hoped it had something to do with adding C# support to the UE5. Blueprints are cool, but they often turn into literal spaghetti and an intermediate language between crash- and pointer-hell prone C++ and Blueprints (that get really hard to maintain once they get complex enough) is needed.

[@TheVideogamemaster9]

C# will never be performant enough for a lot of hardware, and Unreal is a popular choice for stuff like the nintendo switch. Even 2D Unity pixel art games can't maintain a solid framerate with low-end specs. And I've done lots of tests about this, where games like Stardew Valley (C#) struggled to render on my performance-checking laptop without constant audio crackling and slowdown, but games like Shovel Knight (C++) ran perfectly.

[@facedrillpie1455]

why no game engine has used something like nim will forever remain a mystery

[@gamefromscratch]

Not out of the box, but... gamefromscratch.com/nimforue-nim-programming-in-ue-5-x/

[@bexplosion]

They have added the language Verse to Unreal Editor for Fortnite and its planned to be added to normal Unreal at some time.

[@UltimatePerfection]

@@TheVideogamemaster9 Still more performant than blueprints.

[@Ortagonation]

Well, I hate the launcher but it's still not part of engine. What I hate the most is no real time play engine like unity.

[@igorthelight]

"Well, I hate the launcher but it's still not part of engine." - launchers are not part of any game engine. "What I hate the most is no real time play engine like unity." - UE have "Play in Editor" feature ;-)

[@krukhlis]

Everything is ok, but McAfee complains about some "ti!47262ec77b0f" threat in the Windows Installer 😈

[@igorthelight]

McAfee is not a good antivirus tbh. Check out some comparisons ;-)

[@krukhlis]

@@igorthelight it's a corporate machine and corporate standard. 😥 VirusBuletin also shows there is one complain from another antivirus.

[@happygofishing]

anti virus is a meme.

[@igorthelight]

@@happygofishing Antivirus is a tool. As with any other tools, you have to know when and how to use it. It's a meme until you get infected ;-)

[@U_n_d_e_r_s_c_o_r_e_n]

thanks for teaching us how to install and set it up 💩💩

[@matheus-kirchesch]

you dont have to use the launcher....

[@metachanneleducation]

Great

[@screenapple1660]

Also, be careful having kids. Why? Crunch time. you can't finish your game project. you are going crazy and freak out. pacing around crazy -- taking care babies and other things. You have little time to spend on game project. Your love and passion eats you up alive. Next, Wife says "Let's have another kid' 😳😱😭..😮‍💨you won't finish your video game development.

[@맛집전문가]

Unreal engines need to recruit Apple web designers. 😊

[@happygofishing]

apples website is terrible, bloated and pretentious. any website that hijacks my mouse during scrolling is trash and i'll forever avoid their business.

[@leeoiou7295]

Real programmers build unreal from source and build a custom launcher.

[@mushishi3994]

First