The Flanker With Split Throttle Is Wild... | Su-33 Flanker-D Vs F/A-18C Hornet Dogfight | DCS |

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On this channel we like to do a lot of dogfighting most videos are some sort of dogfight between 2 different aircraft as we explore their different capabilities. From time to time I like to dabble in Virtual Reality, I think VR is a great new technology and I love to show that stuff off for the channel from time to time.
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[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ Thanks for watching guys hope you enjoyed, I'm loving the flanker with the split throttles....do you have ideas for another video with the split throttle and the flanker? let me know in the comment section below.

[@hkguitar1984]

Great Flying GS. I hope your throttle controls hold up to the enthusiastic use (well worth any sacrifice from heavy use/wear). Great Content, Thank You.

[@JesterKindaSucks]

Personally I would like to see a double split throttle video where both aircraft use it. I think the F-15 with split throttle would be awesome against the flanker.

[@football_Habbibibi]

Can you try a F22 vs Su 35 spilt throttle

[@dylanmckinnon5465]

Mr. Sidewinder, would you be able to ID the song playing at 5:30? I’ve heard it in other vids of yours and would love to hear a longer source version

[@jamiegable964]

What about using split throttle with a hornet against a flaker🤔

[@MegaEvoluzione]

That flat spin kill is a work of art.

[@skyhorseprice6591]

I think the differential thrust is so effective in the Flanker because the engines are rather widely spaced. Plus, the thing has crayStoopitcray thrust lol.

[@PhycoKrusk]

Same reason it's so effective in the Tomcat, but comparatively not very effective in either the Eagle or the Hornet.

[@sonniedae6398]

@@PhycoKrusk I'd imagine it's not very effective in the Viper either...

[@sebastianmroz4528]

@@sonniedae6398 ahahahaa

[@covahredro8370]

@@sonniedae6398 But the F-16 can be fitted to have vector thrusting(the experimental versions at least).

[@fruitygranulizer540]

i feel like im missing out on a joke. what is crayStoopitcray thurst lmao

[@Matisaro]

I for one appreciate the polite concern Growling always shows towards the poor digital citizens in the homes below as wreckage falls. He always checks and shares hope for minimal casualties!

[@CoffeeMatt10]

@@artao5 and missiles… a bullet might put a skylight in someone’s roof, a missile will turn it into an open plan bungalow 😂

[@gigachad7865]

@@CoffeeMatt10 this reminds me of the time I was in a fox2 fight on the deck and my aim 9x missed and slammed into someone’s window,poor guy

[@samthai818]

Don't check me on this, but i have it on fairly good sources that Growling Sidewinder sends them condolences card and a $5 gift certificate to Ruby Tuesdays.

[@fruitygranulizer540]

@@gigachad7865 imagine some aviation enthusiast watching the dogfight happen in awe and then one of the 9xs starts heading straight for him

[@aisth3596]

The Su30/33 and every flanker with Canards especially , might be one of the best looking planes specimen out there.

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

They looks great with or without canards. It's hard to think of a better looking fighter (at least one that isn't called Fulcrum).

[@sharequsman596]

@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 looks are subjective imo the mig 29 looks ass

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

@@sharequsman596 Anything in particular you don't like about it?

[@jaxastro3072]

SU-37 Tech demonstrator will always be my favorite. Basically an SU-35 with Canards

[@sharequsman596]

@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 idk bro As i said looks are subjective.Something about the way it looks just screams archaic to me

[@ardap3966]

A good ol' Flanker vid from GS to complete the day has to be the optimal way

[@hurricanev6]

That first kill was one of the most graceful things I've ever seen. Beautiful work!

[@crucial0072]

Growling Sidewinder: "Wow, the differential thurst thing is a game changer." *Sukhoi Design Bureau enters the chat.*

[@comediangj4955]

It's sadly United Aircraft Corporation now.

[@crucial0072]

@comediangj4955 was not aware. Thanks for the heads up.

[@user-bw6jg4ej2m]

@@Max_Da_G vital for *national agression* there, fixed it for you

[@airatshakirov]

@@user-bw6jg4ej2m national security also about agression. This is how it works. Sometimes.

[@Stinger522]

Aggression is a relative concept.

[@danield.7359]

And so you impressively delivered an answer to a question I had since you started to do that split throttle thrust thing with the Tomcat.

[@Faded-420]

I knew that these flankers, even though they have great nose authority, that differential thrust would work great in these.. I feel like though if not used as last resort could result in situations you didn’t intend to get yourself in. All around great video bud, thank you!

[@timbaskett6299]

This proves that even with excellent thrust (differential or vectored) that every aircraft is limited by how much air you can push the wing though to maintain lift.

[@Error-33]

these flanker videos are amazing man please do more vids with the su-27-su-33 bc they are so much fun to watch because of all the supermanouverability combined with split throttle

[@princegaming1317]

Awesome way to start the new year, in a flanker and using split throttle. Loving this video 💯

[@Savag3P3nguin32]

You can really see how after the first few manuevers the plane really gets sluggish

[@suyogtadke7985]

Really,That is what your take from the video?

[@Steamthrower1]

@@suyogtadke7985 It's true, it's why supermanoeuvrability is flawed, you make one manoeuvre and you lose all airspeed, making you incredibly vulnerable.

[@Savag3P3nguin32]

@@suyogtadke7985 ah yes is that what your take form the video makes sense

[@DaftDrunk24]

Hats off to the men and women that worked on the design of the Su-27 and MiG-29 programs which lead to the Su-33. Truly amazing work.

[@scullystie4389]

Pulling off the 360 no-scope in a Flanker, nice

[@cj41079]

That is one of the sickest move I've seen yet.....Flankers who knew lol

[@johnxina6823]

you can press LShift+E to turn on the takeoff power. Gives you a little edge and gets the rpm to 102%

[@timothyryner]

Man I’d love to see details on how the plane flies differently with split throttle. I can’t seem to envision what the actual advantage is.

[@joshskier]

An extra nudge anytime you'd want to use rudder, or maybe if airflow over control serfaces is too slow to be viable; rolling scissor comes to mind, or to attempt to recover from a flat spin.

[@technowelliebobs4779]

Moving the point of the 'centre of thrust' to either side of the jet when flying at a high AoA or low speed can help it move in ways that it couldn't with central thrust. It's helpful when trying to roll in particular

[@jackhall290]

It's a pretty simple concept. Imagine a box in front of you, if you take two equal length sticks and put even and simetrical pressure pushing the block forward the block moves in a straight line, if you remove one stick and pressure but maintain the same points of contact (IE one remaining point that is off-center) the block will turn/pivot. In the sky with a plane the same principles are being performed, you're losing some thrust but that isn't as key in low speed dogfighting as positioning is. you're offsetting the balance of the thrust making a sharper turn than typical while slowing your rate speed. As long as you maintain the energy of the aircraft and respect its stall speeds you can theoretically turn (or in most cases roll over the top of because gravity is helping you maintain energy and rate speed) inside your bandits circle pointing your nose at them opening up a solution for guns/missiles. The splitting the thrust is less effective in planes like a eurofighter or mirage or f18 because the engines are very close to the center line of the aircraft. However on a flanker or f14 they are quite far off center and the

[@timothyryner]

So it’s just yaw, but more yaw?

[@technowelliebobs4779]

@@timothyryner pretty much yaw but instead of it being created by airflow over the rudder, it uses the asymmetrical thrust

[@laszlokiss4409]

I love how ever since Maverick did split throttleing in Top Gun: Maverick, GS has made it his ace up his sleeve.

[@jayd5541]

That 5th Gen look on the Flanker is freaking sweet.

[@republicofustio4381]

Time to split the throttle on an A-10C

[@RonJeremy514]

Split throttle the Su-25

[@gigachad293]

@@RonJeremy514 omg that's sounds crazy man

[@sogerc1]

I'm just happy flares did anything, I was starting to wonder why fighters even have them.

[@IL2TXGunslinger]

That was one of the best videos you’ve ever made imho - and you made a ton of great ones! More more

[@omaral-maitah181]

finally love it when you fly Flankers ( With Fox 2s)🤩

[@dass1333]

That was a crazy round house kick to the face.

[@ThePretender1]

Nice flying skills man! Didnt expect the Su33 to be that good!

[@razinkhan8239]

We want this split throttle dogfights more and more

[@Tremeslay]

I was watching Su-57 vs F-16 video from 2 months ago and saw this video's notification. Lucky me! 😄 Btw, I love watching "red side" planes. I will be happy if I can watch more "red side" planes. They are so good looking aircrafts aren't they?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

The flanker series are certainly beautiful aircraft.

[@heatblast876]

Man, that SU33 can turn to the F22 raptor a real competitor by using split throttle, especially do with the SU35 that can challenge the F22. Definitely want to see that dogfight match.

[@vyomaexplorer3630]

Yes

[@tanmaysingh267]

Thrust vectoring+ differential thrust

[@BARelement]

Honestly the 35 is way better than the 33 just by virtue of that better T/W you need it for the drawn out AoA fightsz

[@tsugumorihoney2288]

@@BARelement so Su-33 is basically just naval version of Su-27

[@cockatoo010]

@@tanmaysingh267 SU 33 does not have thurst vectoring. you might be thinking of the SU-30 and 35. those do have vectored thurst

[@slabulous4876]

GS: “I promise I don’t hate the F/A-18 I just don’t fly it and refuse to fly it and almost never fly it and don’t like flying it and-“

[@TyinAlaska]

Since differential thrust is such a useful tactic we aught to be putting thrusters on our wingtips, or spacing out our engines more... well in theory.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Well I would imagine that’s why they made thrust vectoring lol no need for the wingtip thrusters when you have those.

[@TyinAlaska]

@@GrowlingSidewinder both

[@cz75fanatic]

Apparently, according to Gronky, the hornet can split throttle well in application but he had to only go to half power or risk spinning out of control or something.

[@patrickdavis8271]

Nothing can compete with a Flanker unless its an F-14 with GS piloting. lol Great video GS!

[@reload54]

Flanker FCS Off, this is the way, killing hornets is not easy, great video

[@suyashsingh6976]

killing hornet is easy, just not like...."so easy" watch the video of GS with fulcrum, hornet gets ripped of, one in flat spin is the best.

[@caseybelden1]

And here I thought the “falling leaf” in a F-22 was crazy. @1:15 I started dry heaving.

[@cleverlaziness]

we love super maneuverability out here.

[@viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476]

That first kill def goes into the highlight reel

[@dioad1739]

Instead of a murder Hornet the Hornet got murder, great flying GS.

[@Omega47]

Now every asshat in PVP is going to be doing this, thanks a lot Growling, lol.

[@orinpolansky386]

And they asking "Why do you need supermaneurability at all?"...

[@slacker7918]

Lol, “Killing hornets is no easy task” yet always seems they’re fodder

[@sidharthasarangi5393]

7 days (1 week) of requesting: F-14 vs Rafale

[@clairecelestin8437]

Watching you slide around like that, you're only carrying four fox-2's because the rest of the jet is filled with tofu

[@ivan1kot]

That hornet's camo is thick

[@alekosalekadis6095]

Lol hornet with soviet skin! Cool 🇷🇺

[@xxZerosumxx]

DCS Survey: Whats the one thing you hated from the movie Top Gun? DCS Hornet pilots: That it brought differential thrust into the limelight!

[@scroopynooperz9051]

A Soviet F/A-18? These darn defectors man xD

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

It's the upgraded MiG-28.

[@speed150mph]

I’m honestly wondering if after that first time whipping around If the hornet went for it, did a pirouette then yanked the nose up for a fox 2 snap shot if it would have worked. Cuz the hornet has all the AOA and rudder authority you need if you wanna think outside the box there, it’s just nobody thinks of it because it leaves you in a low energy state which is usually a death sentence.

[@shadekerensky3691]

Now we need to see the Mig-29 using this go up against the SU-35.

[@MrScar88]

Fantastic vid. Good to see REDFOR aircraft getting some love.

[@STRYKER_b14]

That hornet opened up too much space

[@RonanFighterPilot]

Enemy plane: *exists*, growling sidewinder to his freinds: "hold my beer."

[@alansnyder4104]

Video idea: A-10 lofting JDAMs near the frontline with Buk SAM behind the line but nearby. In online comments, you often hear that an A-10 could not provide support, but I'm interested in knowing if that tactic could make the useful.

[@CalebMarrok]

You were almost doing the hornet's signature move, the pirouette, for those first 2 kills

[@Fireext]

I like how you guys keep on switching paint jobs every round.

[@Shirocco7]

I had no idea Flankers could do this, great demonstration. Thanks.

[@CoffeeMatt10]

Any jet with 2 engines can… although I don’t think it’s as useful in a 737 😂

[@Prodagist]

@@CoffeeMatt10 Actually passenger planes do it pretty often, it makes slight course corrections really easy, especially when on final approach

[@LFactoRve]

There are many other things the sim cant do.

[@The_Original_Brad_Miller]

So, that first kill was pretty much just a drunken mosh pit twirl that got lucky and connected? Kool lol

[@dct124]

First kill "Be the leaf" 🤣 Milo from Avatar

[@Q2bFF]

That first kill was crazy good.

[@fishgunn1]

Would be cool to see how differential thrust is an advantage by putting two of the same jets against eachother one using differential thrust and one not.

[@taskforce0584]

So you see, its not bout Aircrafts, its about pilots

[@ACE_456]

It’s crazy that the nose can move so fast with the thrust controls

[@ACE_456]

@@Max_Da_G I understand and appreciate the education

[@damienkeijzer2954]

That is false, aerodynamic forces can be far greater than thrust if enough speed is attained. But easy proof for this is that Thrust to weight ratio is not greater than 1.2 in max thrust configuration. The lift to weight ratio is 1 in horizontal and symmetric flight. And when you start pulling 7 G's which means a lift to weight ratio of 7 (assuming the lift vector is fully used for the turn thus altitude is lost). So, no aerodynamic forces can be a lot more abrupt, just think of a cobra maneuver, the amount of energy lost in mere seconds is insane. The engine takes a while regaining this energy.

[@ACE_456]

@@damienkeijzer2954 I understand

[@bobbythomas6520]

I feel like I’d be more scared of a flanker than a SU-57. Something about that 33 is menacing even if it’s a gen behind

[@zv7eket3]

SU-57 with differential thrust😈

[@bobbythomas6520]

@@zv7eket3 eh lmao all 4 of them

[@csjrogerson2377]

As a Navy man, I always wondered when the Jet Jockeys (WAFUs or Crabs) were going to master split throttle. The Fisheads heads have been doing it with ships for about 100 years. Even the Pongos do it with their tanks. Jus having a larf.

[@BvckGames]

4:59 Guys he said it, HE SAID THE THING

[@MustangersYT]

Flat spin kill was awesome I just got dcs this Christmas and I am horrible at dogfighting. Haha

[@MrComplainer]

Flanker vs the Tomcat, differential thrust battle!

[@aw4k3n25]

This is a great example of how the F/A-18’s are suposed to have a wingman at all times or even be with a squadron together there deadly alone they struggle

[@jameskester7745]

The thing is now we need another pilot who can use differential thrust, so when both aircraft have dual engines, we cam see which is truly best

[@SnaketheJake87]

Here’s your clinch analogy was the tits for the KZbin algorithm

[@Invictus22656]

0:44 That's a true 360 no scope

[@SilentOak83]

Ngl, all videos with Flankers look beautiful 😍

[@mavericknunez5962]

Top Gun 2 comes off: enveryone in dcs "let's try differential thrust"

[@Notmethe01]

That 1st kill felt like cheating....

[@TheUnsungHeroes]

Now Su 35 (split throttle) vs F22

[@TakeTheL-iam]

Surprised that no one's mentioned the F-18 using a Russian livery and vice versa.

[@vized2415]

I don't remember last time I clicked so fast on a video after seeing "split throttle" 😆

[@b.a.sbadassugar5007]

man that flatspin kill! I wanna see the other pilots perspective to see how fucked he looked.

[@cheytacpraetoriancomposite3413]

Man those flankers are GAAAWDDDYSSS

[@alighanadian7207]

that first one was the most prestigious kill ever

[@shaneduc]

Almost every other pilot I run across in my SU-27/33 underestmate me diff thrust FTW.

[@schlix101]

I wonder sometimes if there are militarilies watching your videos, learning as well... If not, they should... it's so good!

[@miquelescribanoivars5049]

Time for some Flanker Magic.

[@kevw25]

That first kill was sick!

[@volatile5460]

Say, have you ever done a BVR fight where you’re in a flanker? Would be fun to see

[@sharkk127]

Hey gs, when the f4 comes out, obviously your going to do a mig21 v f4, but maybe you can also try split throttle on the f4

[@alexanderlucas2659]

It always makes me so sad to see a hornet explode... What a beautiful aircraft.

[@LuqmanHM]

Yes thanks for the video!!

[@otterconnor942]

The su33 is like Conor McGregor in a fight. It either wins really fast or is slowly beaten into submission

[@gordan79]

Try flaps when you get too slow in a protracted fight, it helps.

[@leopardd3744]

That flat spin kill is insane

[@shmevan_]

would be cool to have some fights where both sides use differntial thurst

[@lionelbowhunter468]

Hi GS, Did the F18 pilot use the palette? It seems no to me..... Thx a lot for your videos very usefull :)

[@wipplewopple1876]

I'd be interested in some dogfights where both sides have wingmen.

[@johnkurpiewski3996]

12 round fight ? That would be nice 👍

[@thewarthogproject]

Do you know what else has split throttles

[@Ogivekrew]

That first kill was nasty

[@billbrowning3021]

7 or 8G’s, no problem. Lol. An 8G pull hurts and you’re in GLOC territory quick, although I guess the saving grace is it doesn’t last long. Great vid! Love watching these things.

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

Sustained Gs make a huge difference, just look at the 2001 Firestone Firehawk 600. Drivers were sustaining >5 Gs (lapping a 1.5 mile oval in ~22 seconds) and suffering vertigo, tunnel vision and disorientation (among other reported symptoms). It's not quite as high as the instantaneous G-loads one might encounter in other circumstances, but it's a long time to sustain that cornering load.

[@darthgibsonlp6631]

Need to change title - excellent vid as always

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

fixed thanks

[@cambellschunky704]

Flanker vs F16 with Pythons would be interesting.