The FNaF Character Encyclopedia leak is worrying....

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Sire Squawks

Sire Squawks

Жыл бұрын

This book doesn't look good.

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@bonkboy4386
@bonkboy4386 Жыл бұрын
fnaf getting its own lore wrong for the 100th time
@ender01o66
@ender01o66 Жыл бұрын
it's gaslighting done by Fazbear Entertainment LLC ;)
@rienbear_hunsub
@rienbear_hunsub Жыл бұрын
@@ender01o66 That. Is. Genius.
@someonenamedsomeone9497
@someonenamedsomeone9497 Жыл бұрын
@@ender01o66 wait wasn’t it inc- WAIT A MINUTE
@ender01o66
@ender01o66 Жыл бұрын
@@someonenamedsomeone9497 👀
@ender01o66
@ender01o66 Жыл бұрын
@@rienbear_hunsub well it's true, Scott did mention that the guide books (Freddy Files, The Ultimate Guide, FNaF Character Ecyclopedia) were intended to misdirect fans, however he also said he'd decided against it. he also said he decided against making a 5th FNaF game.. and yet here we are now... with a 9th game.. 👀 it's safe to assume, with all the mistakes and false information, that he went back to the original plan of misdirection, then again, perhaps it was always his plan, and saying he'd go against it was also part of the misdirection.. Scott is a troll after all 🤔
@nadie887
@nadie887 Жыл бұрын
If the book is like this when it comes out, I think the fnaf theorists community should all agree to consider this book non-canon or straight up wrong, and not acknowledge it in future theories, or timelines.
@zelz3011
@zelz3011 Жыл бұрын
~~~ I don't know.
@iimuffinsaur
@iimuffinsaur Жыл бұрын
Doubt they would.
@nadie887
@nadie887 Жыл бұрын
@@iimuffinsaur probably but if it's this bad, then it's the best solution, or asking Scott to correct it or something.
@ix_skillx_pxin4645
@ix_skillx_pxin4645 Жыл бұрын
I agree a lot with you bro
@caki4695
@caki4695 Жыл бұрын
Watch Matpat try to make it make sense (and then either he was right but the lore changes or its so much of a stretch it poked its own holes)
@beansfebreeze
@beansfebreeze Жыл бұрын
If they want a non controversial encyclopedia they need to preface half the entries with "possibly" or "potentially" or "allegedly"
@pirilon78
@pirilon78 Жыл бұрын
Gregory: alegedly a human Alegedly homeless Alegedly has a friendship with glamrock fredbear Alegedly exists
@JustAFewTurtles
@JustAFewTurtles Жыл бұрын
The fact that Michael, one of the main protagonists of the Fnaf franchise, isn’t even given an entry while other (forgettable) characters are, honestly felt like a slap to the face for me after looking through the leaks.
@haleyhersh3850
@haleyhersh3850 Жыл бұрын
Yeah me too
@jackeroni216
@jackeroni216 Жыл бұрын
They gave Dark Springtrap an entry. DARK. SPRINGTRAP.
@atanaZion
@atanaZion Жыл бұрын
Because Michael being the protagonist is smtg Mattpatt made out, and was never stated as canon, so ... Also, Michael is the protagobist and has only one voice line during ALL the franchise, why is he more memoraboe than other characters?
@TheJonkler1
@TheJonkler1 Жыл бұрын
@@atanaZion You realize that Michael is the main protagonist of the entire franchise,he is the guard in Fnaf 1,either the main guard or the guard that appears in night 6 or 7 of Fnaf 2,Supposedly the Fnaf 3 guard(The only other character can be Henry),The Fnaf 4 protagonist most likely,SL and FFPS guard is undeniably Michael.In conclusion he is the MAIN protagonist of all of the games aside from Steel wool titles.Also Michael still has more lines with that one line than most human characters(Animatronic counterparts like Springtrap and Baby dont count)
@glycon6828
@glycon6828 Жыл бұрын
I think its cause we have no confirmation of what games he appears in besides 4 and SL
@ImmenseAndrew
@ImmenseAndrew Жыл бұрын
Another blunder is that the book references FNAF World as an "online RPG which has since been taken offline." Clearly, FNAF World was never an "online RPG" to be "taken offline." Scott clearly knows the difference between an online RPG and a single-player offline RPG, having made *both,* and would not have gotten this wrong. A lot of people are insisting that Scott wrote this since he's credited as the author online--which is literally the case for every FNAF book--and has his last name on the book's spine. These people insist that this is referring to FNAF World being taken off of Steam, and Scott just screwed up the language. But, like--this is not an easy thing to get wrong. The only reason you call something an *online* RPG is to distinguish it from an *offline* RPG. Scott loves RPGs and definitely knows the difference.
@rwqfsfasxc4668
@rwqfsfasxc4668 Жыл бұрын
Can't believe they gave Party Freddy his own page and not Michael lmao
@BagOfButtons
@BagOfButtons Жыл бұрын
Who tf is party freddy
@rwqfsfasxc4668
@rwqfsfasxc4668 Жыл бұрын
@@BagOfButtons The Dark Freddy with red glowing eyes and teeth
@MD31NH3VN
@MD31NH3VN Жыл бұрын
actually insane
@admcreations
@admcreations Жыл бұрын
The fucking Sea Bonnies have a page and Michael doesnt 😑
@robotics3dprint932
@robotics3dprint932 Жыл бұрын
@@admcreations the main reason why I wanted to get the book originally was that some fazbear fright book character art cover and their information, could of been useful for some of my project , disappointing that there wasnt as much but still pretty cool to see stitchwrath
@anticmanul
@anticmanul Жыл бұрын
Charlie probably didn't get a new design because who made this book didn't want to pay another artist to do a new render.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
Still bugs me. Dark trap got a new render but not one of the main characters?
@anticmanul
@anticmanul Жыл бұрын
@@siresquawks it's not like he had a good render, until a few months ago I thought it was just the FNAF 3 springtrap in a very dark setting.
@DragonSkies0211
@DragonSkies0211 Жыл бұрын
@@anticmanul I mean, correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s basically dark spring trap. I find it very silly that he’s counted as a separate character, but hey he has funko merch, who can argue that?
@Mr_Gamer-Random
@Mr_Gamer-Random Жыл бұрын
The thing is, in the graphic novels, we have seen young Charlie(bot)
@justice8718
@justice8718 Жыл бұрын
@@siresquawks Dark Trap is literally Shadow Bonnie and Shadow Bonnie is revealed far often more in the lore than Charlie. Overwise, we will get puppet and shadow Freddy pictures instead in the Charlie section.
@mackenziereinhold9036
@mackenziereinhold9036 Жыл бұрын
I looked up the table of contents, absolutely appalled at the fact that the series has completely left behind phone guy, my favorite character.
@Deathworm-eg5lt
@Deathworm-eg5lt Жыл бұрын
@hicksworldutopicothat’s what I’ve been thinking. If he got stuffed into a suit and shit, what happened to his body? Did Fazbear Entertainment just, throw out the body? I need more info on phone guy
@Deathworm-eg5lt
@Deathworm-eg5lt Жыл бұрын
@hicksworldutopico no, just because he got stuffed into the suit doesn’t mean he’s alive. Springtrap is only kept alive because of the 5 spirits
@WakeandJake1999
@WakeandJake1999 Жыл бұрын
@hick the suits in the first game were not springlock suits. They did have mechanisms within them, but they weren’t meant to be wearable costumes
@WakeandJake1999
@WakeandJake1999 Жыл бұрын
@@Deathworm-eg5lt the first phone call in fnaf 1 explicitly states that Fazbear Entertainment would file a missing persons report within 90 days or “as soon as the property and premises has been thoroughly cleaned and bleached” Yes, they did dispose of Phone Guy’s body. Though, they apparently worked very fast since he supposedly died just hours before Mike came in for his shift on his fourth night and his body was nowhere to be seen backstage (he even tells Mike to check there for his body before being killed)
@Deathworm-eg5lt
@Deathworm-eg5lt Жыл бұрын
@@WakeandJake1999 so he was stuffed into a suit as well? There was just another one lying around? Kinda cool to think about
@theworstchannelever6196
@theworstchannelever6196 Жыл бұрын
2:06 this line is likely a reference to how Elizabeth is dead, she is spoiled as in her body is rotting.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
Fuck I can't believe I missed that.
@Cian-A-Jones
@Cian-A-Jones Жыл бұрын
As amazingly clever that joke is, I feel as if it's unintentional due to the more kid friendly angle the franchise is going for, for some reason. God I hope the movie is ACTUALLY a horror film.
@sixsense1436
@sixsense1436 Жыл бұрын
@@Cian-A-Jones O I heard it It is! I dont know where I've heard it but Scott himself said he was surprised that they are allowed to show some...stuff for the movie, meaning like gore or whatever and I hope that's that case! We can only hope.
@Cian-A-Jones
@Cian-A-Jones Жыл бұрын
@@sixsense1436 thanks for letting me know, if there is a spring lock failure in the film I'm really hope that it is quite gory.
@sixsense1436
@sixsense1436 Жыл бұрын
@@Cian-A-Jones No problem! And I would love to see a springlock failure too, that'd be sick, but scott did say that it's based only on fnaf 1, so im not sure. Anyways! I can't wait to see how that's gonna come into play! I wanna see people traumatized from this film.
@pieofchart
@pieofchart Жыл бұрын
What's impressive is that they remembered Electrobab
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
But not Michael.
@pieofchart
@pieofchart Жыл бұрын
@@siresquawks Perhaps the real Micheal was all the Electrobabs we made along the way
@gorillaguy5664
@gorillaguy5664 Жыл бұрын
@@pieofchart Lmao
@inerlotechnologies4908
@inerlotechnologies4908 Жыл бұрын
@@pieofchart Perhaps Micheal was 3 Electrobabs in a skin suit the whole time. Not too outlandish considering what actually happened.
@beatime8430
@beatime8430 Жыл бұрын
it is so disappointing seeing how disorganised this franchise has become 😭 there seriously need to be some discussions within the teams about the story they're trying to tell here. trying to debunk mike being the mc in fnaf 4 is crazy in 2023. if i wasnt with these games from the very beginning, i wouldnt even bother trying to get into it. so complicated. i probs have to spend hours every month just to keep up with everything
@sage9714
@sage9714 Жыл бұрын
As someone who started getting into FNaF lore and games in 2020 it took a solid week of playing the games, giving up on that and binging play throughs plus watching theory videos to actually grasp anything. But from Help Wanted and on I don’t know if I would jump in after all that mess.
@beatime8430
@beatime8430 Жыл бұрын
@@sage9714 yeah thats valid for sure, if fnaf was convoluted before, it sure as hell is now
@MBdynamoBostik
@MBdynamoBostik Жыл бұрын
At this point, I don't mind Dream Theory.
@sage9714
@sage9714 Жыл бұрын
@MBdynamo Bostik Fr like at this point 😭
@fosminclorin
@fosminclorin Жыл бұрын
Thank god I left the series and its complicated (and contradictory) lore. But it's still fun revisiting it from time to time.
@text1016
@text1016 Жыл бұрын
Having an "official" encyclopedia on fnaf is just impossible without it assuming things and taking a stance on the lore. The only way this stuff could work is if you just do the most surface level reading of fnaf, which is just unneeded, play the games at that point or hell watch markiplier play it if you dont like playing horror games. Releasing a book like that is probably a good financial choice, but having these books that look official but lack any consistency are just tricking old and new fans into believing even more crazy theories then they already are.
@text1016
@text1016 Жыл бұрын
Also I just think an encyclopedia or whatever confirming lore is jist kinda lame. Like the books you have to think about what is relevant to the games lore. With meta stuff like voice actors, Scott has always been careful with casting and usually it only gave us minor info. But then a book like this can just say "Gregory is not a robot" and there was no input from us. We would just read that and go "huh that debate is over". It is just not in the spirit of fnaf.
@nekajuii
@nekajuii Жыл бұрын
inabakumori pfp w
@Bofrab
@Bofrab Жыл бұрын
To me it kinda feels like even the people writing this also don’t know the lore of this game, and if that’s the case then that is a massive problem.
@atanaZion
@atanaZion Жыл бұрын
@@Bofrab No one, not even Scott,knows it
@Bofrab
@Bofrab Жыл бұрын
@@atanaZion good point
@ithinkflutterawesome6511
@ithinkflutterawesome6511 Жыл бұрын
Who made the Henry entry. Who would ever label this man as "the voice of reason". This man's solution to someone listening to his vent tapes is to lobotomize them. He built robot versions of his daughter and brought them to robot sentience because he was depressed. He's not a murderer but I would hardly call him the "voice of reason".
@ultmateragnarok8376
@ultmateragnarok8376 Жыл бұрын
He lured like half a dozen people to a fake pizzeria and burned it to the ground without giving them any choice in the matter. He's not William, but he's still about as bad as it gets when it comes to that - he thinks he's justified.
@pirilon78
@pirilon78 Жыл бұрын
Anyone is the voice of reason compared to William Afton who was made to be worse than a 1 dimensional disney villain
@f_mva
@f_mva Жыл бұрын
this is gonna sound mean, but i say it as an artist myself - most of these illustrations are NOT of the quality you'd expect from a franchise this big. they can afford more professional artists. nothing wrong with the art itself, but it's really not up to the standard of a published book from an established IP. it's also very telling that they keep reusing old art even when it doesn't fit the context at all. i will give them points for mullet henry tho i love mullet henry
@RedPandaReal
@RedPandaReal Жыл бұрын
The Elizabeth drawings on the right look passable then you got the goofy one on the left
@filidolphini
@filidolphini Жыл бұрын
agreed, not only the illustrations, but the book design itself - it’s a bunch of slapped on pngs in a completely inconsistent style, lazily done layouts, with poor usage of fonts and no creative liberties taken whatsoever. it looks so cheap and with a franchise that has a style as distinguished as fnaf you’d expect a book with at least some personality. i’ve done book design in school on a pretty basic level and i’d be embarrassed to launch something like this. makes me think they rushed this so much.
@Bofrab
@Bofrab Жыл бұрын
Honestly one of my biggest problems with the book is actually it’s cover art. Survival Logbook has such a nice look for its cover art, then this book just has random character models plastered on the cover. They could have at least drawn them!
@filidolphini
@filidolphini Жыл бұрын
thisss! not only the cover art, the entire book is so poorly designed! i’ve taken basic classes of book design - i’m hardly a pro - but i can tell that this entire thing was just put together last second before release, because there is not a chance someone thought about this for longer than a minute and thought that it looks fine
@coffeeskeletonfilms5876
@coffeeskeletonfilms5876 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought it was weird how all the Afton kids are confirmed to be British Mormons and how it just straight up confirms William and Henry are an estranged couple (explaining why Henry was complicit to William's murders). All in all though, 11/10 because I like the Jorunna parva drawings and the funny way they make Homo auberginus look like a little green rabbits.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
I don't know what I read but you get a heart for it.
@coffeeskeletonfilms5876
@coffeeskeletonfilms5876 Жыл бұрын
@@siresquawks Thanks! Go check out Jorunna parva, they’re awesome. Sea Bonnies in real life
@MeemahSN
@MeemahSN Жыл бұрын
@@coffeeskeletonfilms5876 I want an army of Sea Bonnies made of rubber
@inerlotechnologies4908
@inerlotechnologies4908 Жыл бұрын
Homo Auberginus. “Hello there, Old Sport! I made it into a text book!”
@SSMp315
@SSMp315 Жыл бұрын
I love this
@NoLongerRaining_
@NoLongerRaining_ Жыл бұрын
My only problem with the character encyclopedia is, How liz was drawn. Everything looks so wrong, The more you look at it. The worser it gets. And, Henry looks like a literal blueycapsules character
@WalterUndergo
@WalterUndergo Жыл бұрын
I can't believe they gave Liz dino-arm.
@redpanda6497
@redpanda6497 Жыл бұрын
I feel like it was supposed to be like Freddiez-Arcade's Henry ( which is a cool and popular design ) but something went wrong.
@realdanyy20
@realdanyy20 Жыл бұрын
I don’t Like Blueycapsules but Blueycapsules Henry looks better tbh
@kittykat1791
@kittykat1791 Жыл бұрын
What they did to Charlie is horrible. Also the person sharing the pages says that, sadly, Michael and the missing children and phone guy are all not in the book. And The Crying Child is apparently his canon name since it does specify on other entries when the names they give are not canon. Big yikes. It really dropped the ball here and missed a chance to give us art of characters we actually want to see instead of Dark Springtrap: Buy Our Funko Pop! Also, while this is less important for lore, it still mattered to me that it really does not do the book characters justice either and leaves out a number of animatronics (Fetch, Coils, Rosie) while including the dumb reskinned AR versions of characters. I would prefer Plushtrap Chaser to Piranha Plushtrap when it comes to a full entry in the Encyclopedia, thanks.
@poppyseed799
@poppyseed799 Жыл бұрын
Ah I miss the days when people cared about phone guy… now I’m barely following all the lore and theories (I have the slightest idea what’s going on) listening to newer theories it’s almost strange to me that phone guy is never involved anymore
@TheOnlyCelciAndDontYouForgetIt
@TheOnlyCelciAndDontYouForgetIt Жыл бұрын
@poppyseed799 Phone Guy stopped showing up after Fnaf 3 (I mean TECHNICALLY he's in 4 I guess but it's reused audio really) and after we got conformation that William is Purple Guy any real significance Phone Guy could've had outside of being a guide just vanished
@jabberwockthelemur2961
@jabberwockthelemur2961 Жыл бұрын
Right. So, basically, the only few characters who NEED entries to fill in the series' gaps are just ignored. I don't know what I expected!
@robotics3dprint932
@robotics3dprint932 Жыл бұрын
I can guaratine no one know half of fnaf ar character in the books exist , all that space could of been used for canon and books character like micheal or charlie friends or fazbear fright characters
@laurentcathery273
@laurentcathery273 Жыл бұрын
Its so weird that for william they write "human (at first)" but not for charlotte or elizabeth. Even tho its confirmed, literally through the games, explicitly showned/told to us, that they go onto possessing animatronics, just like william did. Why is it not written "human (at first)" for them too?
@exist4046
@exist4046 Жыл бұрын
I think that may be more a way of saying he lost his humanity through committing atrocities
@enderwalkgang
@enderwalkgang Жыл бұрын
I mean technically they both are and aren't the same people. Their literally corpses aren't mangled into the robot bodies in the same sense his is
@laurentcathery273
@laurentcathery273 Жыл бұрын
@@enderwalkgang ok but also the whole bonbon page genders him as female and on the elizabeth page at some point they call baby a "him" so you know...
@swarple
@swarple Жыл бұрын
I think the problem here is that FNAF is a particular type of franchise. I think they hand stuff off to writers and illustrators like “Hey do this and we’ll pay you” and they’re like “OK” and I’m sure these guys are given a brief overview, but they’re not about to watch hours upon hours of fan theories and timelines when they can just Google stuff from who knows what source and write that. They’re doing it to get paid- which, to be honest, is fair and fine. It’s what they signed up for. They’re doing their job. And chances are they’re writing multiple things at once. Which is probably why they get basic facts wrong- they find a random source and assume it’s probably legit because they don’t realize just how much is left up for speculation. Lots of franchises can do this, because their lore is almost nonexistent, or you can go on a wiki and get straight answers for everything, with perhaps a few mysteries attached. The problem is you just can’t do that with FNAF. The lore is too confusing and convoluted and very difficult to understand for some random writer or illustrator to handle properly. They need to stop hiring random people to make these. They either need to have Scott write everything, get someone who’s already EXTREMELY passionate about the franchise, or not make these things at all. It’s gonna cost more time and money, but it’s the only way we can get consistent and coherent information (or at least, as consistent and coherent as FNAF can get). FNAF cannot be treated like other franchises in this regard but they keep trying to do that. Anyway those are my thoughts
@ultmateragnarok8376
@ultmateragnarok8376 Жыл бұрын
The actual graphic novel series, the closest we get to Scott writing a book, literally gets a main character's hair color wrong. By the time of the final one, it's actually got the wrong characters in place because the illustrator only skimmed the book - and it's not just as simple as the eye color issues, it's actual whole characters missing with others subbed in for them.
@phoenixsnilloc995
@phoenixsnilloc995 Жыл бұрын
3:35 Ok, I _will_ admit the art of the Crying Child's ghost looks pretty cool.
@mrult28
@mrult28 Жыл бұрын
that would probably fit better for the MCI victims though
@Lundcraft
@Lundcraft Жыл бұрын
"Where the Faz-Goo really hits the fan" is such good and funny line, it gave me a good laugh. From what I seen and read of the leaks, something about the writing feels off to me and not like Scott at all. The Ultimate Guide has problems but atleast it felt like Scott wrote it himself. This might be me but feels like there is a lack of care with the Encyclopedia... I hope I am proven wrong with the release but doubt it.
@ender01o66
@ender01o66 Жыл бұрын
I recall Scott creating a post from a few years back stating that the FNaF guides were intended to mislead fans on the lore of FNaF, since he didn't want to reveal the game's lore through a book, it's clear that's exactly what's going on
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
Do you have a link or screen shot of that. That’d be great if true.
@wallystogner90
@wallystogner90 Жыл бұрын
I too would like to see this
@princedonovaughn1182
@princedonovaughn1182 Жыл бұрын
That would kind of be a terrible thing to do
@bathilra5364
@bathilra5364 Жыл бұрын
But if so the mangle gender being yes gag is important to the lore and since the employees call it the mangle that means mangle is non binary
@BOASYDOG
@BOASYDOG Жыл бұрын
What platform was this on?
@endernightblade1958
@endernightblade1958 Жыл бұрын
something i noticed in the charlie entry: it describes book charlie as an “alternate version who survived childhood”. this is blatantly false. we know for a _fact_ that this is not the case. the “real” charlie is still dead, and the one we follow is a robot copy. maybe they just don’t want to spoil a reveal, but come on, it’s been like five years, it’s basically common knowledge at this point.
@Xainos28
@Xainos28 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, from the very beginning the steam page states we play as a child, so this just confirms it more, granted I think there are issues with the book stating bon bon a girl and calling baby a "him" under Elizabeth's section.
@DanimationYT
@DanimationYT Жыл бұрын
No one is debating that you play as a child. But Mike was a child at that point too. Maybe around 10-13 years old, still a child.
@sonicfan4511
@sonicfan4511 Жыл бұрын
@@DanimationYT I was always under the impression that Mike is at least a High Schooler. He's pretty massive and brawny compared to crying child, like more than double his size. He and his friends probably just hang out there since his dad owns the place and he probably gets free food and stuff.
@fedyfabuh3100
@fedyfabuh3100 Жыл бұрын
4:44 I have a counter to this point Back when SL released, there was a HUGE 87 vs. 83 debate over the Bite in 4, and I always took the room code to be a way to confirm that it was the Bite of 83. Also, to counter the Logbook, we know the Nightmares existed to some capacity thanks to the breaker room map which has dots for all the animatronics active in the area, meaning that atleast nightmare Freddy Foxy Bonnie and Chica are all real machines. It's possible Nightmare Fredbear and Nightmare are exceptions, and those guys ARE nightmares as there were only 4 dots on the map if I recall correctly. So this could be explained as crying child and Michael both experiencing encounters with the nightmare animatronics, one of them in person and the other in the form of nightmares. Or the Logbook thing could always just be more of a gag, as a lot of Michael's doodles in the book have a comedic aspect. Take the desired vacation or exotic butters vs. cash basket doodles, for example, not very serious doodles that are mostly just references. My memory on some of these things might be a bit fuzzy, so if there's something else you can't point to that was released after fnaf 4 to clear up the year, please let me know.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
The logbook doesn’t treat the drawing as a gag. Faded text asks “do you still have dreams” on the same page the actual activities ask about dreams. Michael draws Nightmare Fredbear. This means they are either Michael’s dreams or caused him to have dreams about them. I think the code serves double duty. It shows how obsessive and controlling over Michael William became after what he did, and confirms the year he put his brother in Fredbear’s jaws, 1983.
@jdg5209
@jdg5209 Жыл бұрын
The Nightmares aren’t real. In UCN, one of Nightmare Freddy’s voicelines is, “I am given flesh to be your tormentor.” Implying that he wasn’t real to begin with.
@ultmateragnarok8376
@ultmateragnarok8376 Жыл бұрын
The Bite of '87 isn't a thing anymore; there was only ever one. One of many retcons over the years, and the date actually was '82 at one point before it settled on '83 - this was during the FNaF 4 teasers, hidden in the site's source code because.. I dunno, he liked to do that. Whatever the case. That doesn't stop the whole Mangle thing from being the community-preferred interpretation, of course, and it never will even if Scott says it outright at this point. The Nightmares _are_ real animatronics, likely including Fredbear - the Halloween update ones, though - Nightmare BB and Mangle, Nightmarionne, and Jack-O-Bonnie and -Chica, those ones aren't. Plushtrap's hall is present in the SL map as well, with five dots, one in the chair at the end and one in each of the four closets; and the pizzeria from the minigames is also present in that map, with two dots on its stage - recreations, presumably, of the original duo, Fredbear and Bonnie. Now, whether illusions are used or just animatronics that actually look like that, I couldn't say, but I lean towards the latter. It's also shown, with that map, that those rooms are not a part of a house - they are within Circus Baby's Entertainment And Rental, or at least somewhere similar in the facility since we're not exactly able to use that elevator to the fullest mechanical extent it could go to. Probably other floors to the place. Still have no clue if Nightmare Fredbear is a real animatronic among their ranks, and even less so with Nightmare himself.
@RaisinHook
@RaisinHook Жыл бұрын
Bonbon being labeld as female and then the literally next page saying that Bonnet is the first female Bonnie, is the funniest joke to me
@samuellopez479
@samuellopez479 Жыл бұрын
I just realized, when they added Charlotte Emily, Elizabeth, and even The Crying Child, they also opened the doors to adding the victims like Cassidy, Jeremy, Gabriel, Susie, and Fritz. Plus the Security guards. They basically shot halfway and didn’t care to elaborate
@bartoszhallay6576
@bartoszhallay6576 10 ай бұрын
Na, giving humans in this world any elaboration or character means NOTHING if they weren't intricitally tied to an animatronic restaurant for the first 80 years of their lives. They mean literally nothing, because a recolor with a wavey radiation effect is more important.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
I hope we get something more like the survival logbook at some point. Something that just clarifies a few things and adds characterization, while making a game out of it and being fun in general. Imagine instead of an actual character guide, an in universe one that Fazbear Ent. made a character guide and Mike much like the logbook scribbled in notes about their nighttime counterparts, or entire pages of his own stuck in. Saves some lore trouble because something like the Crying Child's page could just be "I'm sorry" or something like that.
@Radi_nce
@Radi_nce Жыл бұрын
Feels very "100% unofficial fnaf encyclopedia tips and hacks"
@Talla50k
@Talla50k Жыл бұрын
Honestly one of the worst part is that the animatronics' sizes/heights aren't given in these leaked pages, figuring out how large these machines are (aside from the ones that we already know of) helps to cement whatever kind of 'realism' is in this franchise.
@ultmateragnarok8376
@ultmateragnarok8376 Жыл бұрын
The actual heights aren't helpful to begin with, to be fair. Most of them aren't all that logical. Baby would never fit through a doorway.
@Talla50k
@Talla50k Жыл бұрын
​@@ultmateragnarok8376 That's the point in terms of Baby not fitting through the door, makes it even scarier when she breaks it down and some of the wall. And when have heights not been helpful? It helps brings scale into the world, how everything fits into place; whether it's logical is trying to insert our real world into a fictional one. Remember, by '83 in FNAF they had fully functioning animatronics that could morph into suits worn by people, that's already way too advanced for our world at the time. The whole point is not if it's realistic to our world, but rather realistic for its setting.
@bartoszhallay6576
@bartoszhallay6576 10 ай бұрын
I mean like, they theoretically can be just 6 feet tall and weigh a few hundred pounds... or they could be 5 ton behemoths as tall as a bull African elephant. Take your pick!
@PrestaPretzel
@PrestaPretzel Жыл бұрын
This books is like if you got 6 year old me, made them listen to every FNaF song ever made and then forced them to write an encyclopaedia with no other knowledge of the games
@Dav458
@Dav458 Жыл бұрын
Surely there's a design for William (pre-springlocked) isn't there? And yeah,there's misinformation here and there but otherwise,I think this book can confirm or debunk alot of things. Also,it's either Charlotte (novel) and the puppet (gameverse Charlotte) are separate,or they were too lazy to make a gameverse design for Charlotte,and it that's the case,why the hell would they make this book for?
@iimuffinsaur
@iimuffinsaur Жыл бұрын
I could be wrong but I feel like there isnt? I think I get why though.
@Dav458
@Dav458 Жыл бұрын
@@iimuffinsaur oh,yeah? Enlighten me
@user-Tod-The-Toadster
@user-Tod-The-Toadster Жыл бұрын
There is (technically) it's in the silver eyes graphic novel
@Dav458
@Dav458 Жыл бұрын
@@user-Tod-The-Toadster alternate universe,doesn't count
@MeemahSN
@MeemahSN Жыл бұрын
@@user-Tod-The-Toadster Book Charlie is a robot recreation of Charlotte Emily, and has no connection to the real Charlie other than being a product of Henry’s grief.
@zuzannakol7791
@zuzannakol7791 Жыл бұрын
MULLET HENRY, MULLET HENRY, MULLET HENRY, MULLET HENRY -
@spinalcord6308
@spinalcord6308 Жыл бұрын
This book has some of the strangest design choices. Obviously not including Michael is alarming, but including the Help Wanted Easter egg as one of shadow Bonnie’s appearances (something I didn’t even know until now) makes me think that the writer may know the games somewhat more than they let on. It’s like going to the “Fnaf iceberg” and skipping some facts from the higher sections and picking facts from the deep zone to slap into the book; no matter how hard I wrap my head around this situation I can’t figure it out. Everything about this book is just really, really odd.
@weirdodingogaming
@weirdodingogaming Жыл бұрын
sometimes fnaf fans are better at fnaf than the people behind everything lmao
@ordisfromwarframe6234
@ordisfromwarframe6234 Жыл бұрын
Id like to inform people here,the art for Elizabeth was by pinkypills,who drew Williams Afton like Peter Griffin,take this information as you will
@titan7789
@titan7789 Жыл бұрын
They introduced us to "minigame" versions of the animatronics,being "shadow" versions of themselves. Wonder if that means anything or they just made up the names just for the sakes of it.
@pieful
@pieful Жыл бұрын
Gosh, this video was so helpful. I was interested in the character encyclopedia (albeit a little peeved at the Elizabeth mischaracterization and skeptical about the book being 'messy' character-wise from posts I saw online, but apart from that, I was open to getting the book) but now I think I'll pass, especially if the book isn't written by Scott himself. Just saved me about 20 dollars, thanks!
@onesingularjosh3103
@onesingularjosh3103 Жыл бұрын
We can only hope that on one rainy night, whoever wrote this decided to pull a Scott, and just rewrite parts of the book to make them purposefully fake, knowing that it would be leaked and the community would be trolled
@davidbraccini4770
@davidbraccini4770 Жыл бұрын
Just found this channel thanks to the KZbin Holy algorithm. Awesome video! It’s incredible how many things they got wrong, I hope since they haven’t released it yet they will fix some of the major mistakes.
@timdn6188
@timdn6188 Жыл бұрын
I think the problem of all these books is that Scott REALLY hates to clarify the plot. I mean, he's always using the evasive in answering any questions about this messy thing that fnafers refer to as 'the StOrY'. He says something like 'Ugh, it's too complicated man, I can't say that right now' for every. single. question. When he was asked about that goddamned box, he came up with: 'You know, some things are better be forgotten, so... let's this thing go unaswered, let's-- let's pretend it never existed'; or about the Fnaf 3 ending, with some saying 'No good ending! Everyone suffers 'till Fnaf 6!!', but some (like you, Squawks) consider the Happiest Day as a post-Fnaf 6 event, and Scott just says: 'Well... I've been thinking all day and all night, thinking and re-thinking, counting and comparing, and I've decided... I won't give an answer. Because some people will be upset'. Does it ring a bell yet? Yes, I know that I'm applying his one and the only live interview and some answers on Reddit TO FANS and I wasn't at Steel Wool Studio when he he was consulting the crew, but... if we see that NONE of these books can answer the game's questions, if Freddy Files can't explain theories properly, if we have to use a LOGBOOK for KIDS to back up our words, if the ENCYCLOPEDIA, which was supposed to tell the truth about the so called 'characters' (they're freaking robots without any dialogue lines or charisma), can not do it and mixes the games... everything just tells me, that Scott treats his editors like with fans: they ask 'what is this person dingo in your story?' and he replies 'it's complicated' and that's it. I know Scott treats his fanbase well, but as a writer I have to admit that he doesn't know how to build a universe. Telling story in one game - he can. But not tie everything together into one coherent plot.
@bartoszhallay6576
@bartoszhallay6576 10 ай бұрын
Scott can make a standalone FNAF World remake where the Puppet is the high queen of the Animatronica while Springtrap is a Lovecraftian, planet eating ghost and go like "yeah, those are different, but not completely, so this one-off line from Springtrap he says during his boast about blowing up the Moon may or may not completely change the lore of the franchise, also this may or may not be a metaphor for Charlie becoming the C.E.O of Fazbear Entertainment after being ressurected thanks to the power of Sea Bonnies." This will happen. Just wait.
@waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Жыл бұрын
i'm convinced no one's looking over this IP and scott just said that to make us feel better
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
Idk
@Goober_goobie
@Goober_goobie Жыл бұрын
Elizabeth brings a new meaning to toothpick WTF ARE THOSE ARMS???
@Goober_goobie
@Goober_goobie Жыл бұрын
HER LEGS DO NOT BEND NATURALLY???? EITHWR THAT OR SHE HAS THE LONGEST TPRSO KNOWN TO MAN💀
@ultmateragnarok8376
@ultmateragnarok8376 Жыл бұрын
Mangle being listed as appearing in The Fourth Closet is just... I hate that. That character never even _got_ a name (I've taken to calling it Blacktime Mangle or Blacktime Foxy, since the yellow-eyed and two-handed take on Funtime Freddy in that book is canonically called Blacktime Freddy), and the graphic novels didn't do it justice at all, just literally swapping it out for some admittedly pretty good Mangle art - but that's not that character's design. That's a new character with concepts of the old ones all sort of mashed together, and it's just... well, you've seen the others. Those graphic novel adaptations have never been good about sticking to the source material for _anything,_ hence all the confusion they caused, but I hate that it's spread so far. It's like.. it's like FNaF 2 having that light flickering mechanic for Foxy, where any subsequent game has to make you do that or risk people just not getting it and thus not seeing animations that had time and effort put into them.
@jasan9973
@jasan9973 Жыл бұрын
I noticed one more weird detail. Henry's called simply... well, "Henry", as if to avoid spelling out his full name... but then his daughter is described as "Charlotte Emily". What's the point of cutting out a piece of info that can be gotten from a different part of the same book?
@r.i.pwindowsxp6876
@r.i.pwindowsxp6876 Жыл бұрын
Going from the Dream Theory being the craziest thing someone had ever proposed to this absolute mess is really sad
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 Жыл бұрын
The Dream Theory-era was honestly the most fun in a twisted sort of way, because there were three destinct groups to it. Those that hated it because they considered it as negating everything, those who liked it because it made Fnaf 4 actually work as a final chapter and the niche fictional weirdos like me who went off the map completely and speculated about the logistics and possibilities of writing a dream world into a semi-paranormal setting. Ironically, we are currently in the worst era of the series thus far. The mainseries is a mess because of SB, the mobile side is a mess because AR's developers just quit instead of fixing it, fans can't agree on anything and the secondary material is at the absolute state of doing whatever.
@Kacper42PL
@Kacper42PL Жыл бұрын
Yep, nothing after Scott's retirement can ever be done anymore... The only positive I can see from this is literally the mentioned 2D artworks and 3D renders. I think this is the first time we get full Scraptrap render in good quality lol.
@princesskristan
@princesskristan Жыл бұрын
I think one of the things that bothers me the most, is the fact that Scott keeps hiring artists who are problematic to work on art for the books like PinkyPills, or ladyfizi or whatever the fuck her name is to work on art for this book. It's a mess
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
yeah it's not great
@theraccoonqueen6513
@theraccoonqueen6513 Жыл бұрын
What did these artists do? I don’t know much about the people who work on the books
@princesskristan
@princesskristan Жыл бұрын
@Theraccoonqueen It's alot to explain, but these people have drawn/did things that are very, very problematic like making William Afton a pedo, drawing nazi art, etc. There's so many threads on Twitter it's hard to keep up
@sailorpolka
@sailorpolka Жыл бұрын
@@theraccoonqueen6513 p3do, n4zi, transphobic +
@prismavoid3764
@prismavoid3764 Жыл бұрын
@@theraccoonqueen6513 Not sure about fizi, but PinkyPills has been caught tracing art numerous times, as well as having posted weird sexual fantasies she had about Scott iirc
@Khanmanlol
@Khanmanlol Жыл бұрын
0:35 I personally have no problem with Mangle being male, since the character is supposed to be based on Foxy (who is male), and phone guy refers to Mangle with male pronouns: "They tried to remake Foxy, ya know? Uh, they thought the first one was too scary, so they redesigned *him* to be more 'kid-friendly' and put *him* in Kid's Cove. To keep the toddlers entertained, you know... But kids these days just can't keep their hands to themselves. The staff literally had to put Foxy back together at the end of every shift. So eventually they stopped trying and left *him* as some kind of 'take apart, put back together' attraction. Now *he's* just a mess of parts. I think the employees refer to *him* as just 'the Mangle'."
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
I don’t really care for Mangles definitive gender. The point is every other appearance of Mangle switches gender every line. That’s been true since 2 where phone guy calls them male, but they’re in lady’s night.
@ITS_JAYJAY_2006
@ITS_JAYJAY_2006 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t Scott say mangle was yes?
@remylandis4088
@remylandis4088 Жыл бұрын
@princemarkedits756 yes he did. to further squawks' point, UCN's description of Mangle even goes as far as to switch every line as well, and their voicelines also include a dual-layered voice, with one male layer and one female layer (listen closely for the male one. its underneath the female one.
@rickyplaysyt4322
@rickyplaysyt4322 Жыл бұрын
Honestly at this point I think Scott should just reveal it by himself, these gender debates aren't funny anymore.
@Khanmanlol
@Khanmanlol Жыл бұрын
@@rickyplaysyt4322 Even then, I think Scott painted himself into a corner with this one, 'cause if he does go the route to confirm Mangle's gender in a definitive manner, people will be very upset and maybe even dismiss it outright.
@bimbgusbomgus2861
@bimbgusbomgus2861 Жыл бұрын
My big issue is this art is from LadyFiszi, meaning she’s STILL allowed to work on this series despite her horrendous shit
@bimbgusbomgus2861
@bimbgusbomgus2861 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention most of her human art is horrid to look at
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
That's fair.
@bimbgusbomgus2861
@bimbgusbomgus2861 Жыл бұрын
@Sire Squawks your points are good too, from a more lore-based standpoint, though. At this point, the lore is so convoluted in my eyes that the only thing that matters is *who* is making it more confusing at any given point.
@MeemahSN
@MeemahSN Жыл бұрын
Can you enlighten me on what she’s done?
@bimbgusbomgus2861
@bimbgusbomgus2861 Жыл бұрын
@Meemah_ SN she wrote comics where Afton was a nonce, she's associated with many nazi fetish groups on Deviantart, and she's drawing Fredbear sexually assaulting Afton.
@mimixte
@mimixte Жыл бұрын
You put into words things that I was thinking but unable to tell because I was unable to phrase them, thank you!
@majorghoul9017
@majorghoul9017 Жыл бұрын
Mangle ain't even a joke with his gender anymore, her pronouns are he/her canonically and I love him
@iguanusbiggestfan
@iguanusbiggestfan Жыл бұрын
All I want answered is why Freddy is holding Nightmare Foxy on the cover?
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
Bite of ‘23
@Cian-A-Jones
@Cian-A-Jones Жыл бұрын
I'm upset at the fact that this could legitimately be a Fazbear's fright story. "The foxy edible"
@MeemahSN
@MeemahSN Жыл бұрын
@@Cian-A-Jones It’s actually a living creature that comes alive in stomach acid and proceeds to eat away at the consumer from the inside-out.
@tylerthekid9108
@tylerthekid9108 Жыл бұрын
Like the genders, Grammer and info is wrong. The art is meh to terrible and surprised characters like Yarg foxy and effing sea Bonnie's get pages but Michael, the missing kids and nightgaurds don't get one Also William gets no human design ether (Plus the fact Scott keeps hiring ladyfrizsi despite her being a piece of crap)
@tapseymoth803
@tapseymoth803 Жыл бұрын
Im gonna have fun reading through this and just trying to piece together some convoluted head canon where everysingle mistake and error in the book is treated as absolute fact and just see how distorted the story will become if you only use that book ^^
@timjor7731
@timjor7731 Жыл бұрын
Ever since Scott left, FNAF been struggling…
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
It’s just been more vague and hard to theorize. As a brand/franchise it’s doing really well.
@Pretzie
@Pretzie Жыл бұрын
I don't consider anything released post Scott's retirement as canon. This includes Security Breach since it was released after he announced his retirement in June. I was afraid Steel Wool would bungle what I (and what I feel a lot of other FNaF fans felt) was a perfect send-off to the Afton era with 6/UCN. Predictably (at least to me), they did, and so I wrote the series off after that. Sad to see them (whoever holds the reins to FNaF now, certainly not Scott, I don't think he'd ever let something like this slip by looking like this) continuing their track record of missteps.
@ketaminepoptarts
@ketaminepoptarts Жыл бұрын
stuff like this is why i think fnafs biggest problem is its own lore. in fnaf 1 the lore actually worked because it was just small background details about a murder that happened at freddy fazbears, but as the series went on they tried inflating that into a giant mystery thats collapsing under its own weight.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
Meh, I think this just isn’t a good book.
@iimuffinsaur
@iimuffinsaur Жыл бұрын
This had the vibes of unofficial guides to games except this is official so thats.. something.
@harrycarson6526
@harrycarson6526 Жыл бұрын
I cant wait for the game theory where Matt Patt attempts to make sense of this book
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
I dread it. I expect it.
@harrycarson6526
@harrycarson6526 Жыл бұрын
@@siresquawks Its only a matter of time
@ZirconiaGacha
@ZirconiaGacha Жыл бұрын
Watch, he's going to look at it and basically go "...Holy H-E-Double-Chica-Arms, this book makes no sense", and for once won't overanalyze a FNaF book
@harrycarson6526
@harrycarson6526 Жыл бұрын
I honestly hope thats the case
@ZirconiaGacha
@ZirconiaGacha Жыл бұрын
@@harrycarson6526 Same
@MegaLpso
@MegaLpso Жыл бұрын
I can tell this book is going to make a lot of people say "NO HE WASNT?" A bunch of times
@mrsurge4789
@mrsurge4789 Жыл бұрын
To be fair with the inclusion of the Crying Child as a ghost, considering he's an incredibly crucial part to the lore and is implied throughout various theories to have initiated William's killing spree with the Bite of '83, it'd feel silly for him NOT to possess something, especially when there are plenty of hints as to who he possesses, so I imagine this was why he was drawn as a ghost
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
I know. It's just weird because he's one of the only dead kids who never appears like that. I feel like the artist drew that as a general dead kid image and they just ended up using it on the Bite Victim's page.
@tangytoucan9832
@tangytoucan9832 Жыл бұрын
Steelwool trying to make their own lore but scott comes back from retirement for 3 fractions of a second:
@RandoSando.
@RandoSando. Жыл бұрын
The gender switching isn't a gag. Mangle is both genders. They're literally two animatronics in one with both a feminine and masculine voice.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
Point being the Encyclopedia messes this up.
@ix_skillx_pxin4645
@ix_skillx_pxin4645 Жыл бұрын
They also messed up with lolbits gender aswell like she had a female pronounce and they made her a he/him in the book without a reson and i am just sad that fnaf doesnt have a single female fox animatronic and i hope they will correct it aswell because the delayed the book release allready
@faithsnowden1476
@faithsnowden1476 Жыл бұрын
In the new SB files books it also has some contradictions but it does call Gregory out to being a human
@Purplepig8
@Purplepig8 Жыл бұрын
A fan who has never read the books or played the games themselves could have done a better job.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
It could've avoided a lot of trouble by using more "possibly" or "Some fans believe" type phrases.
@slippyy6742
@slippyy6742 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if the theory community just decides this is non-canon or not reliable.
@sogmeister
@sogmeister Жыл бұрын
Yikes. This is really Off-Topic, But i love your videos, my only problem is the text on the thumbnails, i know its an aesthetic or style, but its really hard to read, if you brighten the texts color to something brighter like yellow, white, etc. it will be much easier to read, and it will be more eye catching and get more people to watch the video. anyways, i agree with you on this, like this new book is- it's something.
@Dav458
@Dav458 Жыл бұрын
1:12 okay I gotta say this,cause I don't think Scott wrote this himself,bonbon is a hand puppet,correct? WHO THE HELL IS THINKS THAT A STATUE OF BONNIE AND BONBON IN Sl IS THE SAME DAMN THING!!!!
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
I know right? But it says Fnaf 3 and I have no clue where else.
@SCP-469
@SCP-469 Жыл бұрын
They also left the five MOST important characters. The missing children
@fluffalpenguin
@fluffalpenguin Жыл бұрын
I actually said it during the pause and really appreciated the "thank you" after :)
@CallumariMan
@CallumariMan Жыл бұрын
I got the book at a target, and it was a fun read but uhh there weee so many characters that didn’t need to be there. DJ music man and Michael Afton were two notable ones that weren’t there. Instead we got Egg Baby, anyways I do like the book pretty solid.
@Cxsonn
@Cxsonn Жыл бұрын
I agree with your stance on this book, but one thing I do want to mention is how you said that the _Encyclopedia_ didn't list _Five Nights at Freddy's: Helped Wanted_ or Five Nights at Freddy's AR: Special Delivery_ in Elizabeth Afton's appearances, and how that didn't make sense, but, technically, she did not appear in those games. It was just Circus Baby. Nevertheless, great video! I think I'm going to be taking this book with a MASSIVE grain of salt.
@G112z
@G112z Жыл бұрын
Man, that example of a New theorist You gave, I think most new theorists go straight to Game Theory or RyeToast, I don't think people are gonna buy supporting material of a franchise they're just getting started with, even less if it costs more than the games.
@mrtoast2978
@mrtoast2978 Жыл бұрын
the reason michael may not be in the book is because there might be a page that we haven't seen yet containing the rest of the characters...maybe
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
I hope. But him not being in the table of contents implies otherwise
@etepapu8276
@etepapu8276 Жыл бұрын
BonBon Is The Actual Real Enemy In Fnaf 3
@zelz3011
@zelz3011 Жыл бұрын
This book def seems like it's trying to avoid spoilers which makes a lot of the content questionable. At least if it holds up in the theory world. Also another thing that's weird is if it's the Puppet as well why are they not like Willi unless they see Willi as a Demon now. But... Then why do the Shadows appear in 4 or at least Freddy(Nightmare?) And why... Why does it like seem to like kinda place these character in a way that's...
@zelz3011
@zelz3011 Жыл бұрын
Now I know what I'm feeling it feels like this book has an identity crisis.
@Drax69420
@Drax69420 Жыл бұрын
This book trying to avoid spoilers doesn't make any sense. Granted, the book could get newer fans to check out the older games, but the games have been out for years at this point. Why bother with the spoilerrs when this is your big fat offical encloypedia of your characters and the people in fnaf are really into the lore? Just say fuck it and spill all the beans you can. At least the beans that won't spoil future content.
@zelz3011
@zelz3011 Жыл бұрын
@@Drax69420 Because fan theories and possibilities is something they don't want to spoil as well as they might not even know the answers themselves. Also only William is said to be "AT FIRST" from what I know and It doesn't instantly tie Elizabeth to baby. So that seems like something you do when trying to avoid spoilers.
@titan7789
@titan7789 Жыл бұрын
3:53 True,they even made ALL(not counting mangle) toy animatronics be in FNAF 4,but their appearance is so mild,that I didn't even remember about them(the tiny ones near the girl,lol)
@thekarlshow_tm
@thekarlshow_tm Жыл бұрын
How to fix this book: make matpat write it. Plus matpat actually cares about the different theories for characters. It would’ve been so cool though if the book acknowledged popular theories in its own small section. Gregory’s pages “Gregory is a little boy who is theorized to possibly be a robot” Vanessa’s pages “Vanessa is a young woman who may or may not be connected in some way to Vanny” Literally that easy
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Ambiguity could’ve helped.
@jakubgrono9070
@jakubgrono9070 Жыл бұрын
But if matpat wrote it they would have to tell him the lore so he would say only the canon things buf if they would do that there would no longer be a point for him to make theories becuse he would know it all and the thing that is keeping fnaf alive are the theories so without matpat theories fnaf would just die
@blanana_m
@blanana_m Жыл бұрын
Hey maybe they'll release it in a fixed form when Scott looks over it before release or maybe they'll just release it unfixed, we'll see
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
I doubt it will be but we can hope
@cinnamonsakura1418
@cinnamonsakura1418 Жыл бұрын
Let me just say, the book is great! If it was based on designs. Really helpful for me to draw the more obscure characters like Elizabeth and The Crying child better! Other than that, super disappointing. If Scott is involved with this: WTF ARE YOU DOING!? DID YOU FORGET YOUR OWN LORE!? Makes me scared to see how the movie will handle the lore. If he wasn't involved: I don't care if he isn't incharge of the franchise anymore! At least get him involved to make the book correct!
@admcreations
@admcreations Жыл бұрын
When I saw that Michael isn’t in the book I went fucking crazy
@yourconstantstress
@yourconstantstress Жыл бұрын
Pls can we talk about how the anatomy of running Elizabeth hurts eyes
@severelymisprinted4119
@severelymisprinted4119 Жыл бұрын
Some of these are so egregious I can't help but think it was a test to see if someone leaked it, like how they do with movies and games. They change things for each person whos seeing it so that if something gets leaked it can be found out who did it.
@ix_skillx_pxin4645
@ix_skillx_pxin4645 Жыл бұрын
The same thing with lolbit she was called a "HER" in the updated edition but they literly called all foxies male wich looks like they were lazy researching and didnt care about the chracters informations at all They literly called all mangles he/him along with funtime foxy which also had many female pronounces before and now they made funtime foxy only a he? Like this whole book is a problem with the gendering,descriptions,informations
@ix_skillx_pxin4645
@ix_skillx_pxin4645 Жыл бұрын
And also in my opinion funtime foxy and lolbit are both girls because they look female for exsaple the painted finger nails and the lipsticks they have and besides that both had female pronounce as well but funtime foxy is the only one who is a confusion because she also had male pronounce aswell unlike lolbit which only had a female one but its my opinion
@quanashiab.9620
@quanashiab.9620 Жыл бұрын
@@ix_skillx_pxin4645 I think Ft foxy is a girl too, but head canon Lolbit as male or just a virus.
@ix_skillx_pxin4645
@ix_skillx_pxin4645 Жыл бұрын
@@quanashiab.9620 thats cool i see lolbit in canon as female
@quanashiab.9620
@quanashiab.9620 Жыл бұрын
@@ix_skillx_pxin4645 Mhm
@notrealnamenotatall2476
@notrealnamenotatall2476 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this book is just so unbelievably lazy. It's literally just poorly transcribed parts of the wikia, written in such a lackluster way. With start and stop simple sentences like you may see in an middle school essay. Did they even get a professional writer?
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Honestly some of the sloppiness made me question if it was real the first couple pages I saw, but if this is a hoax it's the most elaborate and prolific hoax ever. Seriously so many pages were released before they were taken back.
@Gokuseqad
@Gokuseqad Жыл бұрын
I think we can get nitpicking with this book, I'll start. The left drawing of Elizabeth is mess up in a lot of ways but the ones that bugs me the most are the small arms and the position of the arms and legs because she has the right leg and arm back
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
Yep
@porcelainchips6061
@porcelainchips6061 Жыл бұрын
About the Crying Child: a lot of people believe Fall Fest of '83 was a real event in-universe. If so, I would dare to speculate that Afton could be so evil as to test the effectiveness of his illusion disks on the poor kid every night and just watch from his bunker cams / have the cams set to record and then review the footage when he goes into work every morning. This would also kind of re-enforce the idea that Psychic Friend Fredbear exists to gaslight the Crying Child and monitor if he ever tells anyone about the Nightmares. Now, what if it was Mike experiencing the game play of FNAF 4? I'd argue this still could have all happened; what if we are playing as Mike and his punishment for what he did to CC is to then become the new test subject for the nightmare illusions / animatronics using illusion discs? Could FNAF 4 be about both children receiving the same mistreatment? It short of fits into how Scott's cut scenes and gameplay are usually not 1-to-1 connected; often the cutscenes show events from before or after the gameplay in the timeline of events. Often the cutscenes are not about the player character; not about the night guard but instead about every other character sort of circling / haunting the game? Oh, here's a freaky idea; Is Fredbear NOT one of the anamatronics? Is fredbear the haunting phenomena? Is FNAF4's gameplay about an actual haunting being experienced and caught on camera, thus fueling Afton's future wacky research that goes beyond merely experimenting on his own kids?
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
That’s a lot of information to assume though. It seems very flimsy overall, and doesn’t justify Mike’s Fredbear drawing.
@titan7789
@titan7789 Жыл бұрын
What I don't get is why does the fredbear plush say about the "something" he saw in the "shadows" even though there is something worse for him to remember?
@justice8718
@justice8718 Жыл бұрын
@@titan7789 William is afraid of the shadow animatronics.
@titan7789
@titan7789 Жыл бұрын
@@justice8718 ...okay,that could make sense. But how can William be the one talking,as he can be seen as the one putting a springlock suit on an employee. Unless that's actually just another person shown the same color as William,because of the shadows.
@justice8718
@justice8718 Жыл бұрын
​@@titan7789 William has a speaker on the Crying Children to speak to him. The Plushy allows Willliam to watch his son.
@Zowednessday
@Zowednessday Жыл бұрын
As. Someone who had a gender crisis and evenetually became trans thanks to mangle (yeah i know oisgjbkd) It has made me??? needlesly upset????????????????? the mangle pronoun stuff osaifjb like i am aware it is such a non issue but still. It makes me sad sakofjd
@loopycase
@loopycase Жыл бұрын
Henry: think you got problems William! I have a mullet!
@FunWare.mp4
@FunWare.mp4 Жыл бұрын
My theory for micheal being absent from this book is, since hes probably gonna be the main character again, Hes probably going to get his own book series or hes going to get his own mini Freddy Files or something like that. OR, hes gonna get like a model and stuff, and if they were to release the dlc just a couple months after the book, when the fans play the dlc only to find out that it has NONE of the new lore with him? (Asuming they didint want to spoil the DLC) they would probably be mad/annoyed.
@FunWare.mp4
@FunWare.mp4 Жыл бұрын
I think there just saving him for later, BUT I do have one other theory, and its that since Micheal kind of is the main character to FNAF, Scott himself probably told them not to put anything from him incase they botch it, Or if scott has other plans.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
Maybe but it still is very weird to ignore him completely
@FunWare.mp4
@FunWare.mp4 Жыл бұрын
@@siresquawks Yeah, im not saying they should have, I just think that might of happened.
@titan7789
@titan7789 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't there a canceled email in Fnaf AR about some "mafton" lol? Maybe it's actually coming or something similar to that?
@JonSJohnny
@JonSJohnny Жыл бұрын
@@titan7789 Yooo the second coming of mafton
@sonicmeerkat
@sonicmeerkat Жыл бұрын
omg i was literally just complaining about book and game lore being merged in theories in the other video now this book is gonna be used as evidence in every damn half baked theory now FUCK!
@Snowy_prime
@Snowy_prime Жыл бұрын
The golden Freddy render you showed for a second was on a cheap 1$store poster you could find a while back along with a Freddy and springtrap one
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
hm.
@Snowy_prime
@Snowy_prime Жыл бұрын
@@siresquawks I used to have them and I lost them when I moved a while back
@BananaLock
@BananaLock Жыл бұрын
Lol when he said that the fredbear plush looked different from the one in SL, if you look closely you can see the hex fredbear plush pop up on screen
@justaspiral13
@justaspiral13 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads-up
@nidgithm
@nidgithm Жыл бұрын
I'm just praying these leaks are somehow a hoax but i don't have any hope for that makes me want to see a book like this just made by the fans where it only contains stuff that everyone agrees is canon. though i guess the wiki already fulfils that job (though the wiki isn't without flaws either)
@NorthBoiX
@NorthBoiX Жыл бұрын
i hate this book for getting mangle's gender wrong saying that it's a "male" but in reality IT IS A BOTH FEMALE AND A MALE jeez i hate this book for ruining my waifu
@mamamiaWAAAHHH
@mamamiaWAAAHHH Жыл бұрын
Now I happen to not want to get this book.
@siresquawks
@siresquawks Жыл бұрын
That’s fair
@karlatudor9019
@karlatudor9019 Жыл бұрын
can't wait to see the new theories after this comes out...
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