The Force Awakens Sucks (Maximized audio)

[@natedrawsthings]

Thank you for this. I was ecstatic to hear someone admit that the prequels at least tried to give us new elements to the Star Wars universe. For all their flaws, they at least tried. 7 did nothing.

[@rhymfre4266]

Well 7 did give us Snoke. I liked TFA, but I'll admit, Disney and JJ tried to appeal to the manchildren in the Star Wars fandom

[@Talon3000]

And snoke is preetty damn boring, he's just another gloomy sith overlord like any other. Kylo Ren at least had some character to him.

[@SIPEROTH]

The reason this didn't try anything and was just a rehash was because Disney was trying to make a cash in and didn't want to risk having Star Wars fans not liking the new material. That why they used old known faces too and they threw a female lead and a black guy also. Trying to appeal to other demographics in the hope to make it a bigger cash in. Nothing in that movie was because someone had a story idea or dream about Star Wars that wanted to show in the big screen. All was decided by a committee evaluating what was needed for a good cash in after buying the rights of Star Wars.

[@Nukestarmaster]

Episode I is actually my favorite Star Wars movie.

[@pypy1986820]

They are beyond manchildren. They were manchildren during the days of prequels; they are now officially middle aged 12 years olds

[@marcelagae]

Six years later and it's clear your originally unpopular take has become the concensus. You were right on.

[@leahvillmer9853]

David, you are so not a jerk! I am so glad that I was not alone in the "Wait...What?" line of thinking. I missed much of the movie simply because my brain was too busy trying to figure what the heck was going on. When the movie was over and I was walking out of the theater, I was very angry and disappointed. I began playing devil's advocate with myself, thinking that because I have read many of the novels from the extended universe my own preferences got in the way of enjoying the film. Also, this would explain my confusion about Kylo Ren whose given name is Ben, since in the EU Ben is the son of Luke Skywalker and Mara Jade. Once I calmed down and started thinking about this travesty logically I discovered the horrible truth which you have captured nearly perfectly. Thank you for your honest heartfelt review!! I hope others shake off their hype induced coma and see this thing for what it is..... Episode VII: This Failed Abysmally

[@DVSPress]

+Leah Villmer Lucas's original story ideas had Ben Skywalker and Han's son as the protagonists, if memory serves me. Why would Han name his son Ben? He knew Obi Wan for like a day and a half. Luke grew up knowing him, and was watched over by him.

[@leahvillmer9853]

Sure, I'm totally on board with that but I was pointing out that in the novels Ben was Luke's son. Not only that, Han and Leia's kids were named Jacen, Jaina and Anakin.

[@leahvillmer9853]

Not fighting you on any of it.

[@DVSPress]

+Leah Villmer It was just one of those changes that made no real sense to me.

[@leahvillmer9853]

I get it. There was just so much that was wrong with this movie and I'm glad to see more people are saying exactly that.

[@kitfisto4574]

So we have an expanded universe countless incredible stories orrrr..... This, garbage I choose the old EU

[@Wonderboywonderings]

And The Clone Wars.

[@ACMCUK]

Same here

[@amaxamon]

Never thought I'd agree but I'll take Dark Empire and Thrawn over this Disney garbage. Sad day.....

[@gordonneverdies]

You were ahead of your time with this one brother! I remember feeling crazy when this movie came out because of how well received it was. I think at the time everyone just wanted to like it so bad they were willing to shut their brains down. I think you were one of the first people to call out the Mary Sue issue as well. This is now a common take years later.

[@DVSPress]

Thank you!

[@amadeusdebussy6736]

Studio: "OK what's the ultimate mission in this film" Writers: "Well, we've got the Starkiller and they have to destroy it" Studio: "Um, isn't that just the Death Star and the same plot of the first movie?" ... ... ... Writers: "the Starkiller is bigger!" Force Awakens in a nutshell

[@Wonderboywonderings]

+Amadeus Debussy Switch the Studio and Writers roles in your scenario and you nailed it. I'm pretty sure they paid Lawrence Kasdan just to use his name, not to actually write that travesty.

[@amadeusdebussy6736]

Sadly, you're right about switching the roles.

[@poeterritory]

This one goes to 11.

[@miguelpereira9859]

Wasn't the plot about finding Luke?? Then halfway through the movie they introduce this "Starkiller base" out of nowhere and IT'S BIGGER AND DEADLIER AND EATS FREAKIN SUNS N SHIT jesus christ this movie's writting is garbage

[@schwarzerritter5724]

Amadeus Debussy It is not the same. In Episode IV, the droid everyone was after did have the plans to destroy the superweapon, while in The Force Awakens, the droid everyone was after did not have anything to do with the superweapon.

[@earthlingcrusader1529]

Great comment about how ridiculously well-adjusted Finn was. I've seen people make videos about just how unnatural the character development for Rey and Kylo was but want someone to talk about how unnatural Finn's development was.

[@Nasmr1]

4 years later and it's so much worse, never once addressed or questioned in the films and then entire companies of troopers apparently detected just because.

[@HeroQuestFans]

which makes you think that now we're supposed to imagine stormtroopers are just regular dudes (and dudettes!) in plastic armor who are essentially slaves forced to fight under dire circumstsances, which makes their use as cannon fodder by the empire/first order and their gleeful slaughter by the 'good' guys all the more tragic. movies like inglorious basterds take particular bloodthirsty delight in humiliating and slaughtering nazis, which out of context, appears absolutely horrible and sadistic, but the viewer is supposed to remember what the real nazis did and say "they had it coming." are stormtroopers the disposable army of hapless automatons that the good guys are morally justified in massacring without a second thought (with their deaths even being played for laughs), are they moral agents who have chosen evil and deserve their fate, or again, people who could easily change if given the chance whose humanity is not regarded by anyone until they take off the helmet? these stormtroopers really have no reason to be so evil if they're all so plucky and easily converted and there is no dwelling on the tragedy of wiping them out so willy nilly. you can't have it both ways... both pretending to care about their plight and then forgetting all about it. so portraying Finn as a brainwashed goon who has to slowly recover his lost humanity would be quite compelling and could fit with the overall story. T2 handled it with some humor and it was genuinely touching at the end when John was crying for the machine that had once been sent to kill him. other movies have done it too, I think it was Soldier and some others, Star Trek, etc. if Finn is able to laugh at a joke and start to smile at the end, he could have had an arc. instead it's so quick you almost miss it and he's gleefully blowing away his former brothers and sisters (?) with the rest of the rebels way too quick. even by rise of skywalker we're told that entire groups laid down their arms and embraced the good side, but nobody bothers to try to help that along. big missed opportunity. and I hear that there's a book or comic you're supposed to read that shows Finn was an oddball outcast who had never seen combat and all his sadistic "family" were enthusiastic killers who bullied him so he had no remorse in turning on them (other than the one who wiped blood on his helmet, I guess that was his only friend in life). still, after all that trauma, he just blinks his eyes a few times, takes a stroll in the desert and he's a well adjusted, if clumsy, young kid hanging out with everyone else like he belongs there. I don't buy it either!

[@ladyshahira1010]

I think if this film didn't have the title Star Wars on it, I'm sure the critics and everyone won't be as kind to it as they are now. 93% for this is just completely ridiculous . This movie was really mediocre at best.

[@NargacugaVQ]

rotten tomatoes has been a joke for awhile now.

[@96MonksTom]

My word you are bang on!! The punishment we get for criticising the prequels for innovating the Star Wars universe is the force awakens, unoriginal fan pleasing story (by fan I mean the noisy nerds who just wanted the prequels to be original remakes, there is a silent majority of prequels lovers)

[@wilde4945]

Beautiful point! I get so weary about hearing the whining prequel hate peanut gallery bash George freely. Hopefully this impotent concoction of Disney's will show how indispensable his work was to each individual Star Wars movie. I miss George.

[@pypy1986820]

Just imagine all the OT fans in their 40s still behaving like high school nerds. It's called the reality.

[@HeroQuestFans]

the sad thing is when the prequels came out, and they were being based by some fans, other fans were saying "well the originals weren't perfect either you know" and making up all kinds of excuses why the prequels were not only good but an improvement over the old movies, that it was only nostalgia that was preventing them from being seen as great. then many of those same people seem to have fallen into the same feedback loop with the sequel trilogy. I can only imagine it will happen with the next set of movies as well. star wars wasn't just great because we didn't know any better in the 70's. it wasn't just nostalgia that kept it alive. it was actually good! that doesn't mean everyone loves it, but it touched on something that has mass appeal across generations, which is the mark of "good" art if there ever was one. there's no accounting for taste. people loved avatar when it came out, but who, besides James Cameron, cares about it now and it hasn't been that long since it was in theaters! it reminds me of how whenever there is a new batman, the trend was to bash the earlier incarnations as trash and the latest one as great, then rinse repeat with the next one. so you had people trashing Adam West when Michael Keaton was on screen, and then Keaton was binned when Christian Bale was in the suit. (I guess Ben Affleck broke that mold though, very few admitted to thinking he did more than a passable job. ). the thing is, for something to be great, you don't need to have a steady stream of spinoffs and new content coming out all the time, you can just enjoy the thing itself. Yes, they keep putting Shakespeare on the stage, but they aren't constantly remaking it, yes the actors change but the script remains pretty much the same, even if the background set might be different. do you see people trying to write brand new Shakespeare plays "in the style" of the Bard? wonder how well those would do (I guess "Shakespeare in love" was the closet to something like that, and nobody remembers it except as a punchline).

[@dawnofwar4302]

Kylo Ren, killed a computer console, pretty much knew it would be down hill from there.

[@TheJamesrocket]

11:00 You are right on the money. These 'star wars fans' are totally inconsistent in their criticisms. They just trip over themselves like a bunch of goddamn idiots.

[@NargacugaVQ]

yup. how can these dags hate the prequels, yet love ep7.

[@gustavmaia]

So, if I could add my two cents, Qui Gon Jin, one of the most powerful Jedi, the one who taught Yoda how to comune with the dead and maintain his personality after death, he could not perfomr the mind trick properly. But Rey, a teenager, who at least has forgotten all training, performs mind trick in seconds. So, this is a slap in the face of SW fans.

[@pinkguy4838]

+Gustav Maia qui gon couldent trick watto because he was a toydarian, and you cant mind trick them, their minds resist manipulation from the force.

[@Ludwig1970]

Gustav Maia Qui Gon didn't teach Yoda anything. Are you incompetent?

[@albedo5455]

Dave Richardson Qui Gon did teach Yoda how to become a force ghost.

[@SMC01ful]

But she is a woman. A slap in the face from her makes you a better, more, understanding fan.

[@kinardak]

A word for this review....BRILLIANT!! I love how you intelligently broke down exactly what I was feeling after coming out of the theatre. I must say, Star Wars episode VII and this review has got me thinking about my old science fiction film script I haven't worked on since 2007. Currently, it's in first draft form at 397 pages (all done free-hand). I definitely need to take off the dust of that story and get to the re-write, putting it in correct format (88 to 120 pages). Because I think movie-goers need a revival of some sort. I would like to recreate the impact of Star Wars, without REBOOTING anything... different story (original content) in a different universe, hopefully with similar results in terms of following. Not a trilogy...not 9 parts over a 30plus year period. Just a quick 1-2 punch. Two movies is the aim... that's it. Why am I mentioning this here? Well....one, this review by David sparked new motivation to re-visit my story and two, assuming all goes well with its production, this comment will be the biggest premonition on this youtube channel. So, I'm putting it in the universe, calling it out right here.... ...that by the time we get done with Disney's Star Wars movies (right around 2019 or so), there will be a NEW sci-fi or space opera available for people to indulge in. And who will create it? A guy who started out doing what most people consider to be soft-porn with poetry > www.vimeo.com/thebookofsultry which is currently the only minimally successful testament to my writing ability....haha! Seems crazy...but I'm sure that's the same thing people thought of George Lucas' story before 1977. Thank you David Stewart and you read it here FIRST!! ..

[@DVSPress]

+kinardak I recommend you get Final Draft for you digitization. It will do all the formatting for you. It's what I write my scripts in. And good luck!

[@kinardak]

+David Stewart absolutely man, I have used Final Draft recently for other stuff...definitely very helpful. I just gotta take that old space story and re-write it with that software. I think I am enjoying the first drafts as free hand and then 2nd draft on the computer....I heard Tarantino does that. Thanks again man....your vids are interesting.

[@Thin447Line]

After what JJ Abrams did to ruin Star Trek, I was dubious at the prospects of him taking the helm on this film. My fears were realized and he ruined Star Wars forever in my mind.

[@RenlangRen]

It is outrageous that JJ is able to ruin the two largest sci fi franchises at the same time. I am just waiting to hear how he going to reboot Dune, but make Paul a woman after all, or do Stranger in a Strange Land, and make Jubal a Beastie Boys fan and have their music constantly blaring in the background of his house. House can this hack be given the rights to destroy both Star Wars and Star Trek?

[@SMC01ful]

I agree he's an awful nebbish toady. Star Trek was a travesty. He has no concept of subtlety. He tries to bring in 21st Century speech and humor. Essentially, he's pretty bloody lame.

[@RenlangRen]

Revan Yes indeed! I thought 2049 was excellent, and have high expectations for the new Dune, after years of disapointment.

[@benniturkov5489]

still come back to the star wars videos of yours over the years. Decent takes without insulting me with footage of the film or arguments I disagree with so much i cant take it anymore

[@Kingofgondor4619]

Thank you for your honest review I can't believe people don't see the flaws in this movie it's a cheap remake of Episode 4 !

[@DVSPress]

+Bobby Amunra Thanks for watching!

[@bobbyraejohnson]

Bobby Amunra that's how I felt

[@grungehog]

You mean a needlessly expensive poor quality remake of ep4 right?

[@davindeptuck7905]

I totally feel the same way but for me, it's still fun to watch, weirdly.

[@jscottupton]

Many who hated "The Last Jedi" have given "The Force Awakens" a passing grade. But you, David, can see what I see. It's a badly-written story. It's just NOT as bad as TLJ.

[@jonathangarcia3125]

RIP Star Wars. Al least we have 6 original movies from George Lucas.

[@Wonderboywonderings]

And The Clone Wars.

[@thedon7082]

Jonathan Garcia yeh but 2 out of those 6 suck.

[@adamduffield7782]

@@thedon7082 yeah phantom menace and attack of the clones have their flaws. (Bad dialect etc) but at least there are thing about them that are enjoyable. 1 the stories are pretty much consistent and some of the fight scenes are awsome . What has TFA got? Erm. We got Harrison Ford back as Han! That was cool, until he was made to look like a complete DUMBASS by Rey knowing more about the millennium falcon than he does!!! It just kicks from start to finish with 0 redeeming qualities . At least episode 2 and even 1 had some redeeming qualities. Yes they're the worst out of the first 6. But by God TFA is even worse!!!

[@thedon7082]

Adam Duffield I'm sorry but the phantom menace is an extremely boring movie to me. the only thing I enjoyed about the phantom menace was the final battle. to me, the main thing that makes a movie is the journey of the characters, and the characters in the phantom menace are completely boring and flat. none of them have any arcs. Qui Gon has no character traits outside of "stern Jedi master". Obi Wan has no character traits outside of "the Padawan". Padme has no character traits outside of "the queen". Anakin has no character traits outside of "little slave kid". Jar Jar has no character traits outside of "dumb comic relief". even Darth Maul has no character, we know nothing about him (which I would be fine with if any of the other characters had a character). they're not characters, they're just caricatures. please, tell me why I should even remotely give a shit about any of these characters. same with attack of the clones. one of the two storylines is about Obi Wan trying to find Padme's assassin, but that wasn't interesting because we essentially already know who's behind it (Palpatine), Obi Wan has no kind of character arc, and Dooku isn't a very interesting villain (a former Jedi who turned evil is an interesting concept but they never really explained why he turned). now I really like the scene where Anakin finds his mother and briefly becomes frustrated with the Jedi, but unfortunately it's only being explored for a few scenes, it's not an arc running throughout the movie. his arc is basically "I want to fuck Padme". I'm sorry but I have absolutely no idea why people like those movies, I haven't heard any real arguments for why they're good, most people just say that they like them because they grew up with them. people are just blinded by nostalgia. now it's fine to enjoy them for nostalgic reasons, but you can't say that they're genuinely good just because of nostalgic reasons. now don't take this as me saying that TFA is a good movie, because it isn't, but I would rather watch it over 1 and 2. because at least the characters have some form of development. Rey, despite being way to overpowered, does have some form of internal struggle and growth, as she learns to stop waiting for her parents and move on. Finn learns to stand up to his enemies rather than running away. Han and Leia have to deal with the loss of their son.

[@MrDaftFunk]

@Erich Addler Fuck you

[@junglejim13660]

Dave, Spot on review. My son, wife and I went to see this and felt the same way as you do. I'm not a Star Wars fanatic but like the original trilogy. I fell asleep twice during the movie due to the loudness and CGI graffiti on the screen. I went for my son but wish I could get back the $50 back we spent on this. My son is only 10 and thinks movies should be like video games so he thought it was good in a video game way. I'll take "Revenge of the Sith" over TFA any time..........

[@DVSPress]

+Jimmy Mac Thanks for watching!

[@CIkler]

TFA had more holes than swiss cheese shot with a machine gun... I agree with everything you said lol. When I first heard of Episode VII being made I wished that they would have done Zahn's trilogy. I know people wanted a fresh story, but what we got wasn't fresh at all.

[@shillaryclinty8661]

LOLLLL

[@DemonicRemption]

@Clayton Ikler You're not wrong, but while most fans wanted a fresh story, everyone on the outside assumed they wanted more of the same. Hell even as a casual fan who loved the prequels I was initially confused because for a decade after RoTS all I heard was "The prequels suck, we love the OT." That's what everyone else heard too, as voices like yours were nonexistent. That's why we got this garbage because Igor and Co. at Disney and LucasFilm assumed that's what fans wanted.

[@travishoovestol3938]

After EP. 7 came out I noticed the same issues you did, but went back a second time to see if I was wrong or over critical. But second time made it worse for me. I don't know if you got much backlash for this video, but I received a lot from many of my friends that I have known for years. "It was way better then the prequel crap". I had some issues with the prequels (namely jar jar and Hayden Christensen's acting, and a couple of continuum holes with the originals) but I thought the story was good, the music good and the visuals awesome. I think some people just want EP. 7 to be better than the prequels just to spite Lucas, or just are delusional about how bad 7 really is.

[@porkflaps4717]

*I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THEY MAKE THE MOVIE ABOUT HOW THE RESISTANCE FIGURED OUT HOW TO BLOW UP STARKILLER BASE.*

[@miguelpereira9859]

PORK FLAPS How did they found out the blueprints for the Starkiller base in the first place?

[@ArchRotor]

You'll find out in Rogue Two, Electric Bugaloo (another Star Wars story).

[@CharityDiary]

I agree with every point you made! Nice review.

[@DVSPress]

+Charity Diary Thanks for watching!

[@metalgear1534]

+David Stewart Hi. The prequels actually have a lot more practical effects that many, if not most, people are unaware of. Here's a site that you might be unfamiliar with. Some of the pages have a large number of text before and in between photos so you just have to keep scrolling. boards.theforce.net/threads/practical-effects-in-the-prequels-sets-pictures-models-etc.50017310/.

[@Khorzho]

+Charity Diary Indeed... David verbalized what I was feeling when I watched the movie. Me and my wife got up and walked out of the theater dumb struck that we just watched something called "Star Wars" that was a sham. Very disappointing. And now where does this story go? Episode 8 and 9 is going to be just a rehash of Episodes 5 and 6 but with modern political correctness. *sigh* When I heard JJ Abrams was directing this, I knew the franchise was in trouble. He turned Star Trek into more of a special effect plotless mess than the originals... and the same was applied to SW.

[@DVSPress]

+Khorzho He did more than that to Trek. Star Trek was always about adults making difficult moral decisions, and dealing with the consequences of their actions. The last two movies, like what JJ did the SW old characters, turns our well-known heroes into a mixture of bitter children and sociopaths. But thanks also for watching!

[@Euclides287]

Just like many other movie franchises, Feminism has taken over Star Wars, it's that simple. Luke got his ass DESTROYED by Vader the first time they faced each other in Empire Strikes Back. But this chick not only kicked Kylo Ren's butt within minutes of learning the Force, she also knew how to operate, fix and fly the Milenium Falcon BETTER than Han Solo! I hope Feminists are happy with another legendary movie saga ruined by their agenda. R.I.P Star Wars.

[@TrackerRoo]

At first it seemed like Luke was doing alright, then Vader starts talking and you know that he is toying with Luke. Messing with him, showing him that even at partial effort Vader is stronger. Then you are hit with a huge bombshell, Vader is Luke's dad, bam, no one saw that one coming. Then with Rey and Kylo, dude barely manages to hold his own. She injures him, she is kind of injured. Neither one gave us a good duel. She was just kind of stabbing while he did stupid Grog like swings. We got all of these great duels, Obi-Wan and Vader, Luke and Vader, Maul vs Obi-wan and Qui-Gon. Then we get two retards just blindly stumbling around.

[@bobbyraejohnson]

dnd20SI man I can't tell you how much I agree with you.

[@MythicForce]

The mindset of the writer is this: This character is a woman so therefore she must kick ass at absolutely everything imaginable. I've seen it in a lot of movies. It has grown tiresome.

[@WakeRoberts]

I said it in the theater as soon as the credits rolled, "Whiny kids with daddy issues." JJ Abrams is the poster boy for derivative hacks everywhere. The man has made a career out of taking iconic cinema, adding some lens flares, passing it off as new, making a wreck of it, and being hailed as a genius. Brought to you by the mentality that brought us tomato can art, that's right tomato can art, the art that can be traded in for a nickel.

[@DVSPress]

+WakeRoberts Better tomato can art than _Piss Christ. I shudder to think of the films that are actually funded by government grants. As hollow as Hollywood seems, the academic side of art makes it look like Shakespear and Homer. When you remove all incentive to make art good for you audience you will get to witness just how vapid and stupid people can be.

[@peterehrlich995]

Great and fitting review. At last someone who has the same view on this misery as I do. Thanks for this review.

[@DVSPress]

+Peter Ehrlich Thanks for watching!

[@muratferguson4534]

+Peter Ehrlich i am so lucky that i found some guys like you. I thought I am the only one who isnt happy fith TFA... Very very good review - in all points i have to agree... ( beside that i like Rey an Finn despite of)

[@ThatsMrPencilneck2U]

This critique is exactly on the mark. Your description of the lack of crescendo in the pace of the action exactly describes the complete blandness of the film. This is what I've had a hard time describing. Two notes I would make about the critiques of the film: 1.) Everybody rags on Rey being a Mary Sue. Eh, this is just part of the blandness. It's no big deal, just more nothing. 2.) People mention the "high production values." What film being shown at your local cinoplex is made with "low production values?" If this film were shot on 8mm, then it might actually look different from everything else!

[@DVSPress]

+Paul Kent Good points. High production value to me just means that the movie has polished effects, costumes, and sets. So high is relative to things like lower budget horror flicks or more straightforward action movies to me.

[@ThatsMrPencilneck2U]

I understand what you mean; it just goes without saying. Production values takes me right into the difference in quality between this stinker and GL's films. Lucas had more main characters, more supporting characters, more extras, more sets, more everything, even in his very first Star Wars film. How anybody could call this stinky "good" is beyond me. Talking about low budget horror flicks, I still think Evil Dead was a truly extraordinary film.

[@DVSPress]

Paul Kent I loved Evil Dead,and low budget horror in general. Low budget isn't necessarily a bad thing. In horror it can actually make the movie better. When you lack the budget to cgi a monster, you just hide him in the shadows, which is infinitely scarier and more tense, since it taps into the unknown and lets your imagination go wild. That's why the first Alien film was so amazing (though it was not low budget, just limited in its possibilities)

[@maxbootstrap7397]

You're not a jerk, every complaint you have is totally legit. Frankly, you are vastly, vastly, vastly too easy on this offensively horrible piece of crap. Oh, and The Farce Awakens was a $250,000,000 fan fiction film. The fact is, JarJarAbrams is arguably the worst writer and director on earth, and definitely has the most infantile mind. He also has the most revolting agenda, which is "adopt, then destroy the great works of others"... proven by his literal destruction of StarTrek franchise (where he literally erases/eliminates/destroyed the timeline of TOS, TNG, DS9, Voyager and all previous movies), his totally incoherent, inconsistent, contradictory, nonsensical story flailings in the "Lost" TV series, and now the total destruction of the StarWars franchise (for which we must also thank KathleenKennedy, who seems to have the same evil agendas and attitudes).

[@jscottupton]

When Kathleen Kennedy showed "The Force Awakens" to George Lucas he told her to her face "there's nothing new here...just a rehash" (paraphrasing).

[@blueg8731]

Excellent analysis. There being no build-up, no tension, is typical of the modern world: we want it now, we don't want to wait for it.

[@eurospec]

After seeing Episode VIII, this review is even more true today than two years ago

[@Old-Papa]

Because of her Mary sue powers, I kept wondering if she was a Reven type character, thinking ok, that would be cool. But nope. Mary Sue fan fiction is a perfect description. Love your videos. Your knowledge of storytelling is impressive.

[@bateriayvr8988]

Hell yeah

[@treizTUBE]

great review. The only thought that I had not considered was your point about Fin suddenly being a normal person. Just more fuel on the fire.

[@DVSPress]

+treiz There are people out there who think Finn is a convincing character. Not sure what we're coming to. An I know there were all kinds of things I missed in one viewing.

[@treizTUBE]

David Stewart I don't know about convincing, but he was certainly the most fun along with Po and the Droid. Were it up to me the movie would have just been a chase/road trip with Po, Finn, and the Droid making their way back to the resistance. No returning characters or recycled plot or familiar places. A NEW adventure. . But I stopped enjoying SW back during the NJO series of books so I don't really have a dog in the fight. +1 sub

[@DVSPress]

+treiz Yeah I thought about doing a "better plot" video with Finn as the main character. Poe ends up accidentally kidnapping him during an escape and he has to have a slow and hard moral awakening as they try to survive their adventure. I don't really dislike him as character, I just thought his transformation was unconvincing.

[@treizTUBE]

David Stewart I'd watch it. As to the transformation, I can go either way, the movie doesn't give us the starting point for the character or anything about what his day-to-day is like. I did like that they made a point to showcase the dehumanizing practices of the [Empire part deux] when he gets chastised for removing his helmet. They need orders to even show their faces to each other, even the mid-level officers aren't people, they are the job.

[@brianrebal8936]

I, like you, could complain about this movie all day long! it gave me a headache and upset stomach! I hope that people will appreciate the prequels more now, which were actually were pretty good.

[@romperstompist]

+Brian Rebal I don't like sand. It's course and rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere. Also, Jar Jar Binks, and midichlorians.

[@shillaryclinty8661]

+Артём Водоватов My fellow dickhole , the boi was a slave and he doesn't like sand. So what? It wasn't a major line , yet it was better than NERF FERDER Jar jar at least does shit he helps , unlike the useless phasma who was added for marketing

[@tedferkin]

Oh yea, Phasma forget about her, not surprising yet another of a plethora of unneeded and pointless characters

[@rgerber]

Captain Farcema

[@fundhund62]

+Brian Rebal The prequels were actually great movies, a worthy addition to an awesome franchise. The originals will always have that nostalgia bonus for me, but objectively speaking, the prequels may very well be the superior films.

[@ThePreciseClimber]

Please don't insult vanilla. Vanilla is an awesome flavour.

[@usaussie81]

No offense, but it never ceases to amaze me how many "average Joes" like yourself understand story structure, character development, subtlety, tension, the impact of the film score, pacing, ect. ect. more so than the fucking assholes who get paid millions of dollars and can't many get even one of those things right. Corporate board room thinking? I don't even know anymore. It's so prevalent in all of Hollywood now. So few studios put out film as art, it's now film as product to be consumed. I was surprised that Blade Runner 2049 managed to skirt a lot of these problem, though it wasn't a perfect movie by any means. It still did a better job than all the new SW films at being visually stunning, having characters grow and change, all within an interesting setting and story. I'm curious to know what you thought of the Dark Tower movie, assuming you also read the books too.

[@damiendarko9411]

I seriously hope enough people speak the damn truth about this movie, so that future generations will know that their parents indeed knew episode seven sucked. I will not allow "episode one syndrome" to cloud my judgment this time. Screw you Rotten Tomatoes!

[@MrGeneralPB]

i would say that for me, star wars ended at episode 6, followed by the extended universe written before jar jar made his star trek episode 7 or what ever one should call this turd of a movie, i can see no way possible for disney to save the star wars franshits than to reshoot the horrible garbage dump of a movie with new cast, crew and most importantly someone who knows how to direct a good movie and can tell a good story... (aka not jar jar abrams)

[@jebatman756]

Completely agree. And now he's back to direct Ep. 9....I think SW is officially dead

[@steveouk90126]

3:20 - surviving on her own: and somehow managed to live on a desert planet, undernourished and dehydrated, and still maintain flawless & hydrated skin, perfect white teeth, and all her hair. That killed it instantly for me.

[@pypy1986820]

It's industry standard. the post robo-apocalypse world of Terminator Genisys also provided Kyle Reese plenty gym sessions, personal trainers, and copious amount of protein shakes and nutritionists' proscribed healthy organic foods when he grew up

[@mafbloggerdanny]

omg the thing about them seeing the light of the explosions in the sky YEARS AND YEARS before the light would travel to them... i said that out loud in the theater it pissed me off so much haha you're the only other person i've seen take issue with that

[@DVSPress]

+mafbloggerdanny I write scifi so I guess I think of these things when nobody else does. I was literally the only person who scoffed at that in the theater.

[@titoyepez2685]

David Stewart Totally agree with your whole review, sir! SW TFA it's a bad movie. I still can't understand if the resistance (to whatever they are resisting) that seems to be searching for Luke during years, finally finds him and no one goes to meet him but this Rey girl

[@complex5372]

Perfect call, Story Nostradamus!

[@dadagan8815]

Rey with instant force powers = Bulshit

[@LucidStew]

J.J. Abrams does high budget fan-fic. I knew it coming in. The Star Trek films were the proof. The Kirk death scene showed he had no bounds as far as that is concerned. I held out hope beyond hope this would be different, but alas... so I'm done with the guy. No more Abrams for me.

[@DVSPress]

+Lucid Stew ITS THE SAME BUT DIFFERENT That is how I imagine movie pitches now.

[@RenlangRen]

It is so irritating that JJ is destroying the two largest sci-fi franchises at the same time!

[@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy]

I immediately sensed from that first teaser trailer last year this was likely going to be the most expensive fan film ever made... and I was right. It felt more like someone simply doing a SW impersonation rather than the genuine article. None of these new aliens (except maybe Maz) looked very 'Star Wars-y' to me (plus, where were ANY of the classic SW alien species such as the Rodians or Twi'leks?). Some of the dialogue felt too 'contemporary' (Finn often came off more like Will Smith in "Independence Day"). The whole endeavor felt as though it was purely to get all those who were pissed off at the prequels back into the fold (i.e. pandering : P). While, I'll admit it's a good enough **REGULAR** movie, it's a lousy **STAR WARS** movie -- whereas, you could argue, with the prequels, it was the other way around (and they would've been easily remedied by one or more more disciplined, less reluctant screenwriters and/or one or more more actor-friendly directors). BTW, SW is also just as much about building a whole other universe as it is storytelling... but here we got just another desert planet, just another forest planet, and just another snow planet; nothing like Geonosis, Utapau, Felucia, etc. from the PT. : P

[@HeroQuestFans]

it does feel like a fan film. and while I kind of cringe a little at fan films when they do silly stuff, I can brush that off and say "they did they best they could with what they had" and admire it for one person (or small group)'s imaginative spin on star wars that they obviously love. this is different, it's the official star wars sequel to the movies you loved, that you need to acknowledge as "canon" and love and respect. had TFA been just a fan film I would have giving it a standing ovation. since it's an official work, it deserves the scorn it gets, even if you ignore all the silly excuses made by the production people after the fact. fan films tend to be thinly disguised remakes of the stuff they like done not quite as well, I think that's the key and they tend to be high on inserting stuff that individual thinks is cool or would like to happen to them (mary sue, self insertion, etc) as opposed to what is plausible in the established universe.

[@vannk73]

Huge cash grab by Disney at the expense of all Star Wars fans. I guess the real truth is this: If you want a good Star Wars movie, just go back and watch any of the original 3 (now called Episodes IV, V, and VI).

[@vannk73]

+ocularis73 I think Finn's character is completely disposable. Why does he exist in this story at all? He strikes me as almost a Jar Jar Binks type of character who is there mainly for silly childish humor which is bizarre given his back story. I do enjoy the way Rey is played by the actor, but she is written in an unbelievable way as is Kylo Ren. If we had to kill off the old to make way for the new, this future is not bright at all.

[@DVSPress]

+ocularis73 Yes, just an uninteresting character for me. Too bad, the idea of a storm trooper having a moral awakening is very appealing to me.

[@DrTimes99]

And yet, it looks like a masterpiece compared to Last Jedi...

[@shillaryclinty8661]

The worst in The Force Recycled it's that there's no epic moments nor emotional. And kylo is weak and lame as fuck. He wears a mask with a voice changer TO LOOK SCARY. pfff Plus maul killed a jedi master dooku defeated 2 jedis in a single duel grievous killed HUNDREDS kylo beat a stormtrooper Hope one day this won't be canon

[@bobbyraejohnson]

Andy Wylde haha jp from grandma's boy I can see it now.

[@scandalasdog]

great analysis. Honest summation - best critical review I've seen so far. You didn't even get to the lazy lazy script writing which contradicts the lore and has huge basic continuity errors which I can't believe people have not spotted. Great stuff.

[@wilde4945]

I have been bitching about this since day one. They poisoned the well. Anybody with a brain would trash this script.

[@scandalasdog]

+Brian M Absolutely depressing. People no longer appreciate the art of movies. They've become just like a long television commercial. They cant follow a script or see continuity errors or contradictions in dialog. I think they threw the EU cannon out because that's too much work, you'd have to integrate this movie into it instead of just making up some crap off the top of your head - that's much easier.

[@wilde4945]

+scandalasdog Apparently they did not want to pay the writers. Big mistake.

[@scandalasdog]

+Brian M OK that explains it , they got us to pay instead.

[@maulcs]

Finn's character makes so little sense, it's insulting.

[@177SCmaro]

This film does a real disservice to women and girls. Think of the lessons this teaches them. That untrained, 120 lb women can easily defeat one or more 220 lb men with a glorified stick in a physical confrontation. Indeed that untrained women in general are better at everything then trained men. Not only is this incredibly patronizing to both men and women, it's a dangerous message to send, you're setting women and girls up to fail in reality by discouraging them from earning skills and ability under the assumption that they are just automatically better then men. How much better would this have been if Rey started out pretty incompetent and spent two and a half moives training to become competent? You know, actually have an ark? But god forbid we show a woman as incompetent in this day and age who works hard to become competent.

[@MrWorf35]

Yep Episode 7 is garbage -alas for all the creative cast & crew involved anyway. It has no importance on the SW universe and on creation in general. We now know fan-films are sometimes better than the official products. Thank you Jar Jar Freaking Abrams, you and all the money makers of Hellywood, you hollow-hearted corrupt pricks. Abrams being a showrunner in the first place, his style and scope are those of a TV yesman, but a one with no consistency or originality whatsoever but lots of sparkle and frantic filming, instead of epic and narrative concerns (cf Lost, Fringe, Star Trek rehash). I can't wait to see episode 2 of 'Disney©'s STAR WARS™ - Darth Tantrum Vs Kid Wonder Girl' TV series! I'm sure everything will be louder, flashier and faster. And we'll have Toys to collect! Hundreds of them! And Apps and Candies! And Shampoo bottles! With Star Wars™ on it! Gosh. See you in "STAR WARS™ Episode 8: Epilepsy of the Force"! Another 200 millions dollars Disney© multi-platform media product.

[@ThatsMrPencilneck2U]

+The Fanch I'm ready for "The Force Rolls Over and Goes Back to Sleep."

[@MrWorf35]

Paul Kent ... and its Sequel: "The Force is late for work and lose its job for oversleepling". If only... :OD

[@rhymfre4266]

I liked TFA but I'll agree that both JJ and Disney are trying to appeal to the manchildren and spergs in the Star Wars fandom, which is failing since they'll bitch about anything lol

[@MrWorf35]

Rhymfre Sadly enough for cinema and art, Disney & Abrams are just here for the money, not to appeal to any public -except to the brainless ones, the hardcore SW nerds and videogames playing kids. ;)

[@rhymfre4266]

Disney makes good movies, you can't deny that. As for JJ, he's an elitist scumbag. This guy says the prequels shouldn't be canon just so that he can appeal to the manchildren who bitch about them, and act like the OT was flawless and send death threats to Jake Lloyd. Also, adults play video games too. I'm going to be 22 in a few weeks and I'm still a gamer lol

[@neildbarker]

Excellent review! I actually laughed out loud when you said: "They are somewhere on Earth." Haha - good call!

[@allourep]

Why are you always apologizing for long videos? You aren’t wasting any bodies time. We could always stop watching at any point. I keep watching because you have great points and insights. I even get bummed out when the videos are over.

[@bateriayvr8988]

Well said.

[@zackeriah87]

Couldn't agree more my good man.. Also, how they randomly stumbled upon Captian Phasma and have her disengage the shields for the ENTIRE FLIPPIN PLANET. Can't stand this movie..

[@DVSPress]

+Zach Derbas Then the good guys throw her in a trash compactor rather to die. Such heroes.

[@SOMEGUY7893]

24:49 You know what's dumb about that? They'd still hit the shield, the EU even has hyperspace routes and shit because ships would run into Asteroids and stuff on uncharted hyperspace routes.

[@jntdhome]

My Amazon review of the film echoed the "fan film" sentiment in the title. I didn't leave the theater thinking it sucked. I left somewhat ambivalent of it. I was entertained...but in such a way as if to say "nothing new to see here". It was just....there. It really is little more than a $100 million fan film. Fans are so used to being let down by Star Wars for over 20 years they cried in a unified voice.."We want OLD SCHOOL STAR WARS"....and that is exactly what they got. Just more of the same. No magic or lightning in a bottle.

[@DVSPress]

+John D I definitely understand that perspective.

[@tedferkin]

I would have actually left the theatre myself, except I was relying on someone else to give me a lift home. I thought it was garbage. The plot progression was purely "because reasons" and JJ wanted another explosion-fest. I laughed at the super stormtrooper who abandons his sensible blaster to go Power Ranger on whoever it was. It was like the script writers were constantly saying to one another "oh wouldn't it be cool if ....."

[@malinko35]

$200 million fan fiction film. perfect analogy. Movie was garbage, i was 40 minutes in and it was agonizing, didn't bother with the rest of the movie.

[@rayhunt3244]

It both sucks and blows at the same time, the horror,the horror.

[@ItPreach]

"I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows". - Bart Simpson

[@LonelyGamr]

horrible sequel to return of the jedi lol, movies these days are bad IMO thats why I usually steer clear.

[@kaczan3]

Leia was already a feminist wet dream. She was a leader, she was a better shoot then professional soldiers and killed Jabba on her own when tied with chains. But for women it's never enough. That's how we got Rey. Next episode: Rey blinks and all bad guys die instantly.

[@pypy1986820]

So is Padme Amidalla

[@joshuakavanaugh7851]

Yes thank you! This new series is literally "fan fiction" as you said. They just slapped the title "star wars" on it.

[@kd9262]

Yep, and they paid 4 billion so now they can say the other fan fiction is no longer cannon... BECAUSE THEY SAY SO! Fuck off, Disney.. still canon to me

[@xelldincht8149]

i read fanfiction where the writers respected the series more than what Jar Jar Abrams and Disney did to Star Wars

[@quintfl]

This was a remake of the original Star Wars just like the remake of Total Recall. The original Star Wars wasn't politically correct enough.

[@metalgear1534]

+Gary W-l-o-t Your picture wouldn't happen to be from the movie Samurai Cop would it?

[@quintfl]

metalgear1534 I haven't even introduced myself. My name's Joe. Joe Marshall.

[@metalgear1534]

+Gary W-l-o-t No way! I've never even seen that movie before. The only reason that I know anything about it is because I was watching a WatchMojo top ten list the other day and that movie was featured on the list. Talk about coincidence. After you mentioned the name Joe Marshall, I had to go to IMDB to see if the character was in the movie since I'm unfamiliar with it and didn't hear the name on the list and, bingo! That's just too cool.

[@TheJamesrocket]

+Gary W-l-o-t Thats right, not enough minority groups were represented. Lucky for us, J.J. abrams fixed that shit. Got to poison the well with SJW nonsense.

[@TrackerRoo]

The dumb thing is Star Wars was diverse before. We had a female hero with Leia, who had no problem telling Tarkin and Vader to suck it. We had Lando who played a big role in taking out the second Death Star. No one can say the old ones didn't have characters like that. There's no need to try and say we have them now, it's an insult to the actors who played those characters in the first place.

[@jagsdomain203]

So funny to watch this many years later. Your 100 percent right. You dont rant like this anymore get back to it good Sir!

[@Saieras]

Kylo Ren is the best comic relief sidekick in the galaxy.

[@jordangreywolf]

IMHO, regarding the "rules-breaking" and stupid-amazing coincidences: J.J. Abrams has no sense of scale. This movie gave me a new appreciation for the prequels. :) Don't get me wrong: I still could do without Jar-Jar Binks, awkward and wooden "romance" dialogue, "I have the high ground!" and "Yippee!" But they *expanded* the universe, inspired my imagination, and gave us "Clone Wars." I would have been far more impressed with this movie if they'd flown in to attack Starkiller Base, and DID NOT succeed in blowing it up for once. :D THAT would have been a twist, and been a draw to see what happens in the next movie.

[@claykeough7898]

This film literally felt like an expensive Disneyland ride without the thrill of actually being on a roller coaster or simulator. Just a boring mix tape of unoriginal, incoherent loudness.

[@swahiliranger1022]

This review is even more poignant now given how completely awful and full of missed opportunities "The Last Jedi," was.

[@YChromosome99]

Thank you so much for re uploading this logic review with better sound.

[@DVSPress]

+Yaunnis G. Thanks for watching! I did the vid originally on a new setup using a mic array for guitar, just off the cuff, but I guess it was a little too quiet on some systems.

[@mattfoley4425]

I have no problem with Rey having all these powers but we all know that it takes years to acquire such abilities. Just like this video points out, it's absurd that she becomes a Yoda-like Jedi. It's nonsense that she becomes this crazy powerful Jedi. And to make it worse, she just learns that the force is real considering like a day ago, she thought Luke and the force were myths. JJ Abrams demonstrates that he has no idea how SW works. I thought that the new films lacked any connection to the previous films. Abrams has no idea how the SW galaxy works. The fact that Abrams was more interested in racial diversity rather than pacing, how the Force works shows a lack of understanding. This is not Star Trek which you can easily put the characters in perspective. SW is a unique universe which has to be understood before writing a story.

[@johnnycabot]

Yep - easily the most overrated movie I've seen in years...maybe decades...perhaps even in my entire life. All you really need to examine are the ridiculous "progressions" of Fin's and Rey's characters - just a horribly written script. That said, IF you accept the script for what it is, I guess it wasn't that bad (i.e., they did a decent job telling a very poorly constructed story). Overall, I think a lot of people like this movie, or at least THINK they like this movie, because it is better than the prequels (which is really the best thing I can say about it). If the Force Awakens would have been the fourth movie made (e.g., been released in 1999 instead of the Phantom Menace), I bet of lot of those people would pretty much hate this movie too.

[@EarendilTheBlessed]

You can now correct this post and change it for E8 as worst.

[@youwayo]

How about this one: “The Force Awakens is the best Star Wars movie because it made over $2bil worldwide”

[@schwarzerritter5724]

Eragon is a better Episode IV remake than The Force Awakens.

[@narogsilva2156]

still don't get why people liked the movie

[@ntense001]

I thought the movie was bad. It was very lazy writing and I agree the characters in this first movie were just awful. I think it will be revealed in the next movie that Rey received jedi training when she was younger and it somehow got erased from her memory. This first movie was just an attempt to make the ultimate female unstoppable Mary Sue warrior who doesn't even why she is this way. I was actually more disappointed in Kylo Ren he was such a letdown as a sith. I can't possibly get excited about seeing more of his character.

[@shillaryclinty8661]

+KyroRG 2 words : truth hurts

[@pypy1986820]

The only ways to salvage this movie is if there is a huge twist in the sequels like have Kylo realized that he was never cut out to be a dark side force user and come to his senses and go back to be Ben Solo while Rey got corrupted by her power and reverse the role and got in league with Snoke. However, I knew this twist has a chance of snow ball to actually happen.

[@imotogin]

Imagining who COULD erase HER memory... oh, but with this plot twists she could easily just stumble and fall on her head.

[@TokyoXtreme]

ntense001 NOPE! Rey is just a nobody 😂🆗 To be fair, Rian Johnson didn’t watch The Force Awakens.

[@JohnAPrescott]

Like I said, Disney will ruin this franchise.....Great review! I'm subbing!

[@GreenTeaViewer]

You were not wrong

[@kinardak]

I got one word for this review....BRILLIANT!! I love how you intelligently broke down exactly what I was feeling after coming out of the theatre. I must say, Star Wars episode VII and this review has got me thinking about my old science fiction film script I haven't worked on since 2007. Currently, it's in first draft form at 397 pages (all done free-hand). I definitely need to take off the dust of that story and get to the re-write, putting it in correct format (88 to 120 pages). Because I think movie-goers need a revival of some sort. I would like to recreate the impact of Star Wars, without REBOOTING anything... different story (original content) in a different universe, hopefully with similar results in terms of following. Not a trilogy...not 9 parts over a 30plus year period. Just a quick 1-2 punch. Two movies is the aim... that's it. Why am I mentioning this here? Well....one, this review by David sparked new motivation to re-visit my story and two, assuming all goes well with its production, this comment will be the biggest premonition on this youtube channel. So, I'm putting it in the universe, calling it out right here.... ...that by the time we get done with Disney's Star Wars movies (right around 2019 or so), there will be a NEW sci-fi or space opera available for people to indulge in. And who will create it? A guy who started out doing what most people consider to be soft-porn with poetry > www.vimeo.com/thebookofsultry which is currently the only minimally successful testament to my writing ability....haha! Thank you David Stewart and you read it here FIRST!! ..

[@KamikazeChinaman]

Considering the character and Carrie Fisher herself were very sassy, I expected old Leia to be something like Olenna Tyrell from Game of Thrones. They wasted the trio so badly it almost feel criminal; we didn't even have a reunion of the whole gang.

[@JPaxton1616]

Star Wars ended with episode VI, no matter how hard anyone wants to complain. No George Lucas equals over budget fan fiction funded by, *SKOFF* Disney... don't like that well tough, Ep VI ended with ewok celebration and jedi reunion, that equals THE END. DONE its OVER!!! GO HOME!!

[@niche0boven]

I must protest. Fanfiction can be well written. SW under Disney does not make the effort to pull lore from all canon like good fanfic does. Sturgeon's Law holds for fanfiction, I'm still waiting for Disney to do something in the 10%. (Finn doesn't read like indoctrinated clones, but poorly indoctrinated recruit)

[@moahdakkah3963]

funny thing is once I heard the newest one was basically a feminists' wet dream I just knew I wouldn't pay money to see it. didn't hurt the producers much, seems like blowin a 50 to take my family to the cinema is getting hard. seems most of the movies recently have been showing us men as doofuses and women as super, my wife even got sick of the crap. I liked the newest avengers while she was chuckling about black widows' kick assery, I had not even thought about it till then.

[@chaddad1236]

You said maybe it didn't violate the rules of the Star Wars universe because its a fantasy film. I read an interview with Lucas back before he made the prequels. He said when he violated the laws of physics (like no sound in space for example) in his movies, he had to stick with it as if it was a law. Every ship, explosion, etc now had to make sound in space.

[@darwinsape9901]

Hi Dave, GREAT REVIEW... and I thought it was just me who thought SW7 was pants for the same assortment of reasons... looking forward to your next outing...

[@evdawgbeat]

if ray wasn't in the movie then finn would look a lot like a jedi. He has a lightsaber and he mindtricks the girl stormtrooper into turning the shields off and he fought better against the bad guy than luke did against darth vader

[@whitemakesright2177]

18:30 This is a big problem in a lot of modern movies. My dad, for example, has no interest in any of the superhero movies because he knows they're going to win. That makes it boring.

[@Someguy-j9e]

VII was horrible and did nothing to further the franchise. The positive reviews/ratings are pure nostalgia and a desire to like the movie. People have literally willed themselves into liking this film

[@gammaechofoundationproductions]

Well said, David! TFA is essentially a rehash of ANH. Abrams and Kasdan played it safe instead of coming up with a new plot featuring old and new characters. Here's hoping that episodes VIII and XI are much better! I look forward to seeing more of your videos! You just earned a new subscriber! :)

[@AdrianFahrenheitTepes]

I literally didn’t watch another one, because I was left wondering how the wannabe Vader ever got off the planet before it exploded.

[@boxxidraws7690]

You’d be surprised how many ships and sets and practical effects were used in Phantom Menace (Star Wars Episode 1) alone. They dwarf the original trilogy.

[@DVSPress]

I was surprised when I saw some documentaries!

[@DewkChronic]

I think more fans are going to snap out of the fog and realize this movie was a huge let down. I can see them doing their own type of prequel movies by going back and giving us what happened after Jedi and before TFA.

[@DVSPress]

+DewkChronic Disney already has spin off movies and stuff in the works for that time period, totally eliminating the Extended Universe.

[@benv7933]

I wanted to like Force Awakens SOOO much more than I did. I chalked it up that they were playing it safe and we'd bring out the big guns in 8 and 9. 8 and 9 were beyond ridiculous. What a mess. My love and respect for the prequels skyrocketed after this disaster.

[@DVSPress]

Everyone wanted to like it. I wanted to like it. I think it was a much bigger disappointment than the second movie because by the time of Last Jedi my expectations were already very low.

[@ValisFan3]

I've been watching these Star Wars sucks reviews ever since watching the movie yesterday and being angry about it. The movie was actually good up until they got to that forest planet. Jakku was an interesting place, because the exploration of the ruined Starships and AT-ATs was cool and I did like the Millennium Falcon chase scene. Star Wars actually never did have archaeology and ruins exploration before. After that, Rey did too many Jedi things, there were too many plot holes, and the movie just became exactly like episode 4.

[@DVSPress]

+ValisFan3 Thanks for watching! I too liked the idea of ruins. That was one of the things that actually appealed to me.

[@r0bw00d]

That's going to be this new trilogy in a nutshell: No new stories or character development; just Disney playing with their toys and going, "See how much fun we're having? Buy our toy line and you can have this much pleasure, too!"

[@kkarx]

I watched it yesterday and it was horrendous. How can a 2 hours movie feel so rushed? It was very boring at the same time. I never felt that main characters were in any real danger. I don't think highly even of old SW series (as a scifi they fail in just every aspect) but this was even much worse because new characters were immortal.

[@ChrisBryer]

7:10 Although i like the actor that plays Finn i to had the exact same problem with how he was in the film.

[@soco13466]

I'm thinking that the whole point of the movie is to show a woman as being superior to men. The PC culture has ruined Hollywood. They are like little kids, pretending what they wish to be true, as being realistic. They ruin everything they touch, putting their stinky cheese odor on the product, expecting people who can't stand the stench, to "learn" to like the stuff. Screw the propaganda, make movies without that PC shit, and don't rely on gimmickery and razzle dazzle noise and visuals. We've grown weary of the lazy writing, the virtue signalling, etc. We get it. We know they are barren of thoughtfulness, stupid, and boring. Get Aunt GoodyTwoShoes out of movie making. Dammit.

[@RuneForumwalker]

I'd say the only point that is unfair is a similar one that is made for TLJ in breaking the laws of physics. It's fantasy story set in space, and not hard sci-fi so it's somewhat forgivable. Now breaking the lore is very, very bad. Lore matters more in fantasy than physics.

[@keriford54]

Thanks for the review, absolutely spot on.