The Forgotten Builds of World of Warcraft

[@GregoMyEggoLive]

Melee weaving as hunter in TBC is my all time favorite mmo class design, I played hunter in both original tbc and classic re-release and only gained appreciation for it. I've played every single class throughout the various versions of wow and never has anything come close to how fun tbc hunter melee weaving was. That mixed with the fact that hunter gear looked incredible in tbc it just felt like the ultimate wow experience to me.

[@Nepomniachtchi_Austin]

In BC, as a warrior, one of my favorite meme specs was a 5/5 axe specialization and bloodthirst build, you got just enough points to get both. Even in mediocre gear you could easily get nearly 40% crit chance. Could only imagine what T6/sun well gear could get you.

[@Jackthastyle]

a little disappointed he didnt include the Shockadin Spec from early wotlk. you had good burst dmg and a crazy cc chain with repentance + pala stun. this was the most fun i ever had in wow arena.

[@scrapppy96]

there's quite a few he left out.. but it was just one per class

[@kinzer69]

There was a point in TBC where rogues had a sub talent that gave a combo when ever someone else crit. Including 25man raid.... full combo bar immediately when used. Double the next highest DPS every raid. With loowwww gear... like kata gear toping bt raid.

[@shestewa6581]

During MoP, smite priest was possible. A holy priest geared for haste and crit with as little spirit as possible, certain talents and glyphs and Chakra: Chastise. At certain gear levels it could actually out-DPS a shadow priest. The problem was that you could run low on mana pretty easily if you tried to weave in heals or the fight went on too long. Using shadow word: pain or mind sear too much would destroy your mana and you’d go OOM, but it worked really well, especially during SoO. I was a healing priest and farmed a set of gear specifically for this and used it in pugs for fun. Add in light well and divine hymn, it had some really good backup healing.

[@lindwurm5976]

I remember in an early Patch of WotLK Prot Pala had a talent that gave Spellpower for Stamina (was later changed to Spellpower for Strength) on top of giving a 30 bonus to critical heals. And what kind of gear has lots of Stamina? Right! PvP Gear! PvP Holy Palas were going deep prot, picking up stuff like the avengers shield silence on the way, gemming full stamina and had like 30k hp and 3k spellpower while a regular holy pala had like 20k hp and 2k spellpower.

[@Roggay47]

Yea there were plenty of weird, completely busted, paladin pvp specs. I remember playing the one with avenger shield in full ret gear and one shotting fools in arena. It was so dumb. That being said, preg is even dumber. I also remember playing that healing spec you mention.

[@seanstreck2669]

That healing spec was particularly broken in season 9 because they added the flash of light HoT to the sacred shield proc. So those heals that crit for 2x instead of 1.5x had a substantially more powerful HoT. The other lesser, but still important aspects of Prot/Holy was ardent defender, which made them frustrating to finish off, 10% stamina (further strengthening the talent), and the small bonus of Spiritual Attunement, which could dramatically increase the mana longevity of the Paladin in double healer/battle ground environments.

[@shocxxxx]

i remember when for a very short time, they released the lvl 70 BC talents to vanilla wow before realizing BC, there was some crazy specs then. obviously because the talent trees weren't really intended for lvl 60

[@ksilebo]

During BC the first Boss of Black Temple dropped a Int-Dagger with no Mainhand/Offhand restriction so you could play Elemental Shaman with enough points into enhance to be able to wear 2x 1handed weapons

[@jamescusick5860]

iirc Rogue HAT(Honor Among Thieves) Spec in TBC was op. Raid members crit hits generated combo points so the rogue essentially just had to spam eviscerate.

[@bathsalts666]

it was wrath, god i wish tbc rogue had that

[@kinzer69]

It was BC. I remember doing Gruls lair with that build.

[@I3Case]

There was also the rogue combat hemo spec that pumped pretty hard and gave your raid/group a nice melee dps buff. It was a decently popular rogue spec during late p1/early p2 tbc.

[@butterphli3z]

That, along with several other "builds" in this video aren't actually builds.

[@mazhiwezakizo3513]

During Vanilla I had a pretty obscure build where I was sort of a DPS/Healing Hybrid build with a Holy Paladin and a 2h mace and it worked really well. I used to kill entire groups of Horde players in AV, till they started fleeing on sight from me. Because of my 2h mace, I assume everyone thought i was Ret, but I still healed like a Holy Paladin and it would really throw off my enemies. Too bad i could no longer do that with burning crusade.

[@MrGrissu]

I still remember tanking Ulduar and ToGC with Blood and Frost DK hybrid, and also random fight with Paladin tank from opposite faction in Tanaris in this spec.. the 15min duel. That was fun :D

[@CondemnedInformer]

No, but as a feral, I bring buffs and a combat res. Pretty neat.

[@dixelsyc]

My favorite weird thing I'm currently doing in WoW is a level 30 locked DH where I'm just stacking Mastery and using full shadowlands gems. I currently move at ~160% with no buffs. Almost as fast as using glide for movespeed.

[@Jason-993]

melee weaving and seal twisting are awful playstyles :)

[@cattysplat]

Makes a boring underpowered class infinitely more fun. Totem twisting sucks when shaman can use mana on dps spells though.

[@FrazierHarcrow]

Many hunters and paladins I'm still raiding with miss their tbc kits greatly, moreso the hunters though

[@JamCie]

Can’t say anything about melee weaving but seal twisting was really fun imo.

[@Krulfar]

Didn't try melee weaving but yeah, seal twisting is just dogshit

[@axuh382]

Seal twisting was the funniest rotation I've ever played. There is tons of rng but it had very high swing timer based skill cap especially during high haste situations and the damage was good on single target. Who doesn't like to burst for 20k on one global? And then they ruined it in wotlk and made the class 1-2-3-repeat rotation.

[@huhwhat21212]

that smite spec was huuge dungeon leveling value classic -> tbc if you played with 2 of them and a mage and w/e other 2 melees. just invincible and huge aoe dmg

[@eulemithut8027]

The Gladiator was Top DPS than they nerved extrem, because the normal Warri Tank was really strong!

[@nilinju1252]

Man he missed out on rexxar build for hunters in Warlords of Draenor. BM hunters stacking haste and using daggers, was insanly fun. and amongs the top dps

[@ErikvsLenny]

The most fun ive ever had in wow - was when i was messing with my Pala Heal and came up with an Exoczism build. woth shit gear i never died and was able to burst people in no time.

[@SilentOne-111]

Never forget the time I 100-0'd a popular mage streamer whilst he was playing a rogue as holy paladin in WOD. The last farewell for the shockadin...

[@nickwiederhold]

I was in a tiny guild that was raiding in WoD and I was top dps every raid on my gladiator. I will admit the guild wasn't really raid focused lol

[@lindwurm5976]

So the Shield Warrior dealing damage started in WoD? Just gonna ignore that Prot Warrior with high Arp were happily two shotting people in WotLK?

[@LordKronsell]

Yeah it seems like a lazy-mans type of video, theres some things that dont even belong here such as the gnomergan mace??? Theres kebab DW Arms, Arms with Flurry, Fury tank, Arp prot... none of which are mentioned, and thats just warriors :D

[@bennyandersson7770]

The statement about DKs being able to play any spec for anything in Wrath is wrong. In fact. They didn't need to open the talent tree at all.

[@perceptoshmegington3371]

Haha I remember the non stop heart strike spamming build in BGs, absolutely busted

[@TheLukeSchnabel]

I quit playing wow when SoD was capped at 25. Why am I watching this hype video… I refuse to go back you can’t make me!!

[@abrvalg321]

Didn't mention rogue's seal fate and other hybrid builds.

[@choppers1036]

Lol in vanilla classic and tbc i was topping meters in our guild power shifting on my druid...pummeler ftw

[@oggblomskulk]

oh my fucking god I remember the paladin specc. I almost quit arenas at the time, could not fucking kill them to save my life.

[@sinprodigy14]

I ran a sword and board ret pally in burning and steamrolled for alterac valley

[@ClearMindMediax]

isnt glad warrior still considered fury warrior its the same spec just rune and gameplay change

[@Pidbullz]

First thought was my exorcism spam dps holy paladin end of wrath in icc

[@groothorty4566]

He didnt cover Frost Dk being a better tank spec than blood though..

[@I_Crit_My_Pants]

Ppl talking about shield wielding dps specs but not about Ele Shaman? Ok then.

[@Onlytheclouds]

Masterfrost DK was juiced back jn the day

[@Loffels]

i have a video on my channel of a good glad stance arena. ended up 1v2ing a pally / druid i miss that spec. the wod version.

[@mezzam]

So sad they didn't make holy DPS in SoD. It was a glorius chance to do it.

[@joaxx4627]

Shockadin is viable right now in SoD with the ZG 5 set and T2 4 set

[@mezzam]

@@joaxx4627 I meant priest, sorry. With Smite / Holy Fire.

[@PS-cq8qr]

He missed early vanilla spell power rogue.

[@butterphli3z]

"Rogues can tank... if every person in the raid respects threat". Well no shit lol. ANY class can tank if everyone respects threat. Also farming Gnomer wasn't that bad as a Druid main, we didn't have to do other excessive stuff every other class needed to go through to get there bis. Not to mention the leveling is a breeze lol.

[@jamesbaggett3655]

I had a dps brewmaster spec in wod.

[@johndeljoy8071]

Please pause the video if you are going to talk into it...

[@MrVVega]

where is guzu? i see his background is different. parents house?

[@SUpahh100]

spellhance is crap you lose out on attack power. its one you need gear to be good.

[@gregsmw]

rogue tank? not spellpower rogue?

[@gregsmw]

frost tank i did it the entire wotlk back in the day, and did it for 90% of wotlk classic its just better then blood, more fun, better aoe threat, better cooldowns, better agro, lower cd on your dnd, less damage taken you didnt heal yourself anywhere near as much, and did a bit less single target damage, but everything else was better hell back in og wotlk not classic wotlk, i distinctly remember frost being THE tank spec, and blood was outright a dps spec no one tanked blood spec until icc, it being a "meme" or forgotten spec is outright wrong for the entire expansion frost was the tank, blood was a dps, it flipped with one of the later talent changes (either icc or ruby sanctum, think icc) but even then frost tank was still on par i miss frost tank imo dk is the biggest missmade class, frost should have been tank, blood dps, and unholy should have been what disc priest would later become, a healer that dealt damage to heal, would fit with WC3 dk a lot more as well, as dks in WC3 were support/healer heros also, PoM pyroblast i loved that spec a had a number of duels with my budies where i would just insta 1 shot them with a pyro crit it also wasnt actually worse then standard fire in raids, maybe lik 1-2% less damage, but i mathed it out HARD and found it really didnt drop far behind, and in really short fights it pulled ahead actually cos of the big spike from the 2 cds

[@cattysplat]

WillE sounds either incredibly bored, depressed or sick. Guess that's what making classic videos in 2024 does to a man.

[@haihod6356]

warcraft 3 music

[@Jeshklv]

played resto swarm druid in Wotlk

[@hubertbazejewski8658]

Shockadin in tbc :)

[@joshuaburns911]

amazing video, i watched the whole thing

[@2b4llz13]

video been out 10 minutes why lie

[@sweatter8213]

its too bad the game sucks now days and every class can do everything... what a pity

[@wdf70]

Seeing this video just made me realize how SICK of this meta culture I am. People aren't allowed to play the game how THEY want because a bunch of out of touch developers have taught these players for decades to play the game only 1 way. And if the players see you doing something that just slightly suboptimal, you're not allowed to play the game unless you do the same cookie cutter trash everyone else is doing. I know it's different if you're trying to do the hardest content on offer, but jeez, all you meta & parse chasers need to get over yourselves. It's a video game.

[@vibesmagma8451]

Arnt you also adding to the toxicity of complaining about how people want to play the game? Find groups who wants to play like you :)

[@pillebrett]

Sounds like the playback speed on the video guzu is watching is on like 0.75%

[@pillebrett]

nvm. Video wasnt fuly buffered.

[@varok1206]

Hat rogues

[@AchEdeJungeNeDu]

Last time i was this early my people havent commited mass genozide yet.

[@saulgoodguy1840]

Cant tell if youre german or israeli