The FORGOTTEN Wonder Woman | Artemis Of Bana-Mighdall

[@CasuallyComics]

Check out the story that inspired this one! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYrGqmN3dsaYaqs

[@briannalee1998]

Great work Sasha! Can you do videos that cover the different versions of the Amazons? The peace loving and kinky pacifists from the Golden age? Badass warriors, scholars, artists, etc with personalities and characteristics from the Post Crisis era? To the rapist and child killers in the New 52? There's so many different versions of them and the New 52 completely ruined their reputation. Incels still use that era as an excuse to hate on the Amazons. Love your videos?

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

FWIW, _that video_ led me -- mainly due to YT -- to this video...👍

[@moonlilly467]

Disco Nightwing's outfit will never be rivalled in my opinion

[@roseclearwater9904]

My first thought too (':

[@CJ-ef4tg]

Thank you. Love that one.

[@paticakes2024]

This seems fitting kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpyvmph-i8-Mn5o Especially since there both a robin

[@Ramsey276one]

I read of it in InQuest mag... Was that the name??

[@josukejostar277]

You are right

[@ultimate_lance]

I want a picture of biker wonder woman on a motorcycle picking up Steve Trevor like a movie

[@clutchcake7717]

oh my........ I like that.

[@CosmicG777]

Same. That'd be awesome. I love biker chicks.

[@CosmicG777]

@@walterobrien8045 Nice...please post it if u can.

[@hakksemerci9988]

I think it would be better for black canary abd green arrow

[@altalia07]

Yeaaaa

[@ViccVegaa023]

This was the period in comics where the main character got swapped out for more violent replacements. Batman was replaced by Azrael who had an even more extreme attitude than Bruce Wayne and wore a costume that made him look like a transforming mecha. But the Knightfall saga sold really well. Since it worked with Batman, they tried it again with Wonder Woman. Because it's not comics if they don't beat a good idea into the ground.

[@Wiccanslyr]

Azrael!Bats is the best bats! JK, second best, Dick is the best Bats.

[@hairsprayguy84]

ViccVegaa023 that did it in Superman too

[@Utubesanarc]

@@hairsprayguy84 yea wasnt it the Eradicator

[@hairsprayguy84]

Ok

[@sleepinggorilla]

Height of X-Men (wolverines) popularity. DC gave their characters a Rob Liefeld makeover.

[@violagreene4643]

Given all the parallels and contrasts between the two characters, I find it odd that one link that is so obvious is so overlooked. Their names. Diana is the Roman goddess that was identified with the Greek goddess Artemis.

[@Skeezer66]

Like, DUHH!!! LOL!!! Good point!

[@Amber-tk8hd]

Oh shit good point lmao

[@booksvsmovies]

Damn, Artemis and Diana's legs are loooooooong in this run. Every panel is just legs for days.

[@karenstarr]

It reminds me of liefeld

[@MagillanicaLouM]

I see no negatives

[@WilliamAMills]

I was thinking Frank Frazetta barbarian warrior woman legs. I ain't mad but I could see it being too much for every panel

[@alejandromolinac]

This is the era of the Supermodel.... so comic book artists often made the Heroines look like this....

[@edsonsengo2684]

@@karenstarr I think it is

[@sunshinesooperman5110]

“Giant Thighs of Justice” is not the DC Comics crossover event we deserve, but is the crossover event we NEED.

[@altalia07]

💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

[@tyk4016]

Her death was so sad. The panel where the demon ties her own lasso around her chest is so unnecessarily humiliating. I know he has personal beef with Diana but he really takes it all out on Artemis.

[@GenerationWest]

So, so you're saying Artemis walked so Bakugo could run. (I honestly love her Jim Lee leather costume, her first joker costume on the other hand... Looks like she lives in Sin City as the warrior prostitutes.

[@Kal_g]

Aye! How's things going for you, man? Also, have you done a video on the many voices of Matt Hill?

[@Notthegote777]

Would be interesting to see a fight between Artemis and Bakugo

[@kyleellis9177]

My friend was killed almost 2 years ago. i have been serverly depressed and fanfiction and comic channels have really helped me overcome my grief. Current comics are so dark i had to avoid them and go silverage for a few years. Your constant upbeat view on comics and being willing to accept change from any writer if its done with care, has really been a constant bright spot in my life. Your vocal support of fanfic is what inspired me to share the double self insert fanfic i was writing to deal with my loss. It on Spacebattles and its threadtag will obviously point it out if anyone cares. Thank you again, you really helped alot with my grief and my fiancee thanks you because I'm not sad all the time any more.

[@nottal8048]

Kyle Ellis I'm so sorry for your loss :( may their souls rest in peace and speaking as a viewer, I'm happy this channel gives you the same sorta solace that it gives me. Much love and take care

[@josukejostar277]

I AM CRYING

[@kyleellis9177]

@@OlafLesniak thank you all very much for your kindness.

[@barriolimbas]

RIP to your friend, hang in there and God bless.

[@pixiz6055]

You Got this,❤️❤️❤️

[@jigganautt9487]

Wow, the "fan service" in this issue is so EXTRA!!!! There is nothing left to the imagination

[@ferrous412]

All i ever thought about during this story arc was, "How can she fight with all that hair everywhere?".

[@josukejostar277]

Ask medusa

[@smolbean2244]

She actually recently said in RHATO that her hair is enchanted

[@LuisTorres-vu3wi]

Actually she uses magic with her hair, that's why it doesn't get in the way

[@BIGDEX71]

I personally like the Rebirth Artemis and the whole concept of the "Dark Trinity"....I think their light witted, humorous take on most situations provides a really nice balance to the big three.

[@ericrobins5188]

Dark Trinity: Red hood, Bizarro, and Artemis.

[@CJ-ef4tg]

I haven't read it, and maybe (?) why I hadn't noticed. That is a damn fine observation.

[@MrAndreMiranda]

Hey... Now that you mention it... 🤔

[@jonathonriddle9922]

Why not add G'nort and make it a full misfit Justice League?

[@adam-l74]

Reading the run as it happened, it was shortly after Superman died and was replaced by four different supermen and Azreal replaced Bruce Wayne as Batman. I just figured it was Diana’s turn to have someone else carry the mantle. I was glad when Artemis returned and was able to develop her own identity. The art is more cheesecake than I remember though. Looking at it now I’m like {yikes}!

[@Utubesanarc]

Love it😍

[@owendean907]

It's either in their death or superman video or knightfall video. But, comic pop talk about how it was all a gimmick by DC to show readers how they should appreciate the trinity more

[@victoriapagac]

i love the biker outfit i even have the original art for a poster

[@artofsiujerkjai9830]

I like it too, but it does feel like she raided black canarys closet.

[@danielseelye6005]

@@artofsiujerkjai9830 Diana in Fishnets... O_o Excuse me...

[@ThisCharmingMan1984]

@@danielseelye6005 I’m sure Wonder Woman’s creator/s would approve: though while it would fit with the bondage themes, they might have considered fishnets to be too much clothing haha. All the best. 😀👍

[@roseclearwater9904]

Thinking about that moment when Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory said, "I'm sorry but in what universe is Wonder Woman blonde." And he has the audacity to call himself a nerd lol (￣^￣)ゞ

[@MyselfandComics]

She also blonde in the 70s pilot before Lynda Carter’s show.

[@mercuryvincent6796]

The only Artemis I was familiar was in Young Justice but in Red Hood and the Outlaws introduced me to this new hotter Artemis. Honestly, if she stayed as a alternate WW then maybe would have faded into obscurity but being in the Outlaws with Bizarro made her into her own character!!

[@michaelcummins7397]

Artemis’ introduction was the most true to Wonder Woman mythos as you could get. It had all the shock sexuality (Charles Marston would approve), fused with Greek Tragedy (Hippolyta sacrificing another for her daughter) and it’s injected the series with some electricity desperately needed after years of cookie cutter good-girl Diana.

[@SSJSoujiro]

I loved this run back in the day and I legit cried when Artemis died. But yeah LOT'S of cake for everyone lol that artist did that a lot. But the new equipment, Diana's rogue gallery face-off and the Demon fight at the end were 10/10. If not for those gauntlet she would of never have been able to defeat that Doomsday clone in the future. Lots of cheese (a LOT of it not necessarily) bad blood between mom and daughter and a few other stuff were not good in this run. It was a fun little time and I was sooooooo happy to see her return!

[@TJTLee]

divisive design: I kinda love "The Batman" joker design. The jester hat dreads are kinda funky... in a good way.

[@CasuallyComics]

I remember people freaking out about that, and the fact that he had no shoes lol

[@TJTLee]

@@CasuallyComics forgot about the lack of shoes lol

[@BaronKrool]

I loved how much it broke the mold. Adaptations should use that kind of freedom every chance they get.

[@felicea.432]

I used to hate that back in the day, but some of it was just going from DCAU Joker and I wasn't ready for something new and that different, but ended up liking him when going back without having the comparison in the front of my mind

[@r3cycledPl4stic]

@@felicea.432 I hated it then and still hate it now. Have no idea why they decided to make the Joker look like a homeless person. I liked some of the re-designs of the other characters on that show, but the Joker, nah.

[@Harleyxjokerforever]

Oh god wedges.....wedges everywhere!!😳

[@danielseelye6005]

Surrender to the ButtFloss!

[@darkteentitan2699]

Wonder Woman in her pants and Jacket is a costume I like a lot lol. WW 600 is one of my favorite costumes on her

[@starri]

Speaking of John Byrne, what about a video where he patched the continuity hole from the first Crisis by sending Hippolyta back in time to be the JSA's Wonder Woman? I thought that was brilliant.

[@damienfield8144]

Artemis played the Jean-Paul Valley role to Diana's Batman, or the four false Superman after his death. We weren't supposed to get attached but you may be surprised. I personally love Azrael and Conner Kent.

[@mwg500]

It led into Queen Hippolyta eventually being forced to take the Wonder Woman mantle and traveling back in time to serve with the JSA, which was a brilliant story arc and way to cover the golden age WW idea and set it up more as a legacy mantle.

[@timothylewis2527]

I thought I was going crazy remembering Artemis with different colored hair. Apparently, I don't have dementia. Yay!

[@wwbwbgohbc]

Going to make me think way back on ths one. I remember liking Artemis after the fact, during the run I was kind of pissed off that anyone would even think of replacing Diana. I remember being really mad at Hippolyta over the new contest lol. I also remember being very confused because I was a young baby gay with an affinity for redheads lol So it was like, I hate you for being mean and taking Diana's place, but you're also kind really hot. lol Ok, so you should totally cover Hippolyta's run as Wonder Woman, and their arch in Our Worlds at War. And just because it's one of my faves, JLA Vol 1 #90 for all the glorious Wonder Bat p.s. Hope you and new Baby Shipper, and Little Shipper, and Mr. Shipper are doing well.

[@MyselfandComics]

I love wonderbat thanks for comic recommendation lol.

[@Skeezer66]

I'm a fan from this time. When this storyline was going on, in was generally known that John Byrne was taking over after #100, so anything that happened those 10 issues wouldn't last. Not expecting much, this run was much better than I expected! I love Mike Deodato's art, and I liked the biker shorts! I also liked how Diana was more down to earth for awhile; it was a time when the creators could be experimental, and they were! I'm a John Byrne fan, but when he took over, it felt like everything was returning to the status quo. As for all the cheesecake art, that was the 90's!! Not only were comic book publishers putting out swimsuit issues of their female characters, on the newsstand there were all the men's magazines like FHM, Maxim, etc., all ln competition for the same (male) audience. Getting back to Deodato, I'd love to see what you think of his Catwoman run!! It's disappointing how popular she was in her own book, created her own identity apart from Batman, but that seems to be long forgotten.

[@arseniczirconium9098]

Bad writing and character regression have plagued characters like Selina, Talia and Damian for so long, it's sad.

[@malachibaskette908]

John Byrne have a history of not letting characters evolve from status quo. At marvel he did the same with the X-men

[@adrienalineadrienne]

Now I really wanna see Batman’s interactions with her.

[@cheeseburgerpaladin]

WW's biker fit is like Storm's mohawk.. they weren't that bad and people exaggerate.

[@BlUsKrEEm]

Wait... People dislike Storm's mohawk?

[@thenoirknight5729]

Not horrible, but just bad

[@malachibaskette908]

@@BlUsKrEEm i think they did oringally but being storm was in the fit for almost a whole decade it grew on people and became one of the hightlights in storm history whereas diana fit was around for only an arc so it didnt really key with readers

[@HovektheArtist]

I still have a copy of Artemis Wonder woman somewhere, I don't remember how I got it just when I was a kid, and I remember a bit that at the time I like Artemis more than Wonder woman because she was angrier, and I got that. Of course I also had only read like one wonder woman comic

[@HorsonWelles]

That “I’m not angry, just disappointed” from Sasha kind of hurt. So don’t want to disappoint Salt Mom.

[@DrPluton]

I thought Artemis was more interesting when they brought her back as a kind of death knight in Artemis: Requiem. Her career as Wonder Woman was doomed before it began.

[@sherrienusum6898]

I so agree! I wished they continued down that road a little more. It's a area in DC separate from Diana and suited her professional soldier style.

[@archer1949]

I remember this. I was all about the Deodato art!

[@Vox-Multis]

I love how generally positive your videos feel, even when covering something you have strong criticism for like this. Like even when a comic has legitimate shortcomings, you still make it feel like a worthwhile journey from start to finish. That's so refreshing to see after scrolling past a seemingly endless sea of videos entitled "The Problem With X", "What Went Wrong With Y", and the like.

[@bobmathis-friedman6742]

The chest harness is virtually identical to the ones that Amazons wore back in the Golden age, so I always figured that she dug it out of an old closet back on Themiscira

[@alangreenway6695]

How often do you reckon Artemis stands on her ponytail every day?

[@Mokiefraggle]

This! Man, I had hair down to my backside for a couple years, and it got caught on everything, sat on, my fiance would roll over onto it in his sleep and pin me down...I can't even begin to understand how anyone could think it made sense to design a character with hair so long that it's often pooling on the ground. Especially if you're creating a character who's supposed to be a hard-ass warrior woman from a grim desert tribe of Amazons...I'd figure a character like that would have as short and practical a hairstyle as possible.

[@OkMakuTree]

These issues of Wonder Woman were brought to you by the Cheesecake Factory

[@CJ-ef4tg]

Are those the new wait staff uniforms.....?

[@PeterKnagge]

_you might remember the Cheesecake Factory in 90's Image comics, and Marvel's X-Men and the Swimsuit Special_

[@oldmangeek3007]

Good one

[@MrSafior]

You should make a video on Nubia, Diania black sister.

[@OzzKrol69]

Speaking of the Bhana tribe, has Dc done anything with Grace Choi post flashpoint?always felt she would be a great fit for the outlaws.

[@Wintersoldier73]

I prefer Artemis & read Red Hood & The Outlaws for her.

[@WannabeWryter]

I hope sasha covers that version too, love to see her opinion on the dark trinity.

[@Wintersoldier73]

@Kingdrago101 Starfire was in the new 52 Red Hood & The Outlaws, not in Rebirth. Two different series.

[@Wintersoldier73]

@Kingdrago101 and the original comment I posted did not mention Starfire at all, only Artemis.

[@arpitpatel2781]

Please do a video on Hippolyta's time as Wonder Woman!!

[@thaboiinblue]

This is my FAVORITE era of Wonder Woman (as well as all of DC Comics). I vastly prefer the Pre-52/Post-Crisis era. Thank you so much Sasha! 😄😄😄

[@kstormgeistgem461]

so. nobody's going to bring up artemis facing off a giant mecha tentacle monster. mkay.

[@sherrienusum6898]

Thx for doing this video. Artemis is my favourite other Wonder Woman. I think it's mainly because of the personality developed overtime in other books.

[@DeFactoLeader]

I enjoy cheesecake, I think it's a good indication of an artist's style and talent and it's just also pleasing to the eye, though I like it to feel a little more naturalistic. In a weird way Artemis' outfit being so strategically ripped is somehow _more_ revealing than actual nudity, as you could argue the latter falls within the confines of 'heroic nudity', as you see in a lot of statues and paintings (as well as characters like Dr Manhattan). I must say I really do like this art, though. Artemis' crazy ponytail is very larger than life and dynamic.

[@sebastiancrenshaw851]

Never been a Wonder Woman's fan, but Mike Deodato is one of my favourite artists, if only I could have a fraction of his skills!

[@lunamalfoy7]

The Wonder Woman Odyssey pants and jacket it 100% still my favorite outfit. I want it back!

[@RIAN69]

Same its just got a balanced feel to it. Skin suits are just boring 😅

[@rjbrodeur6063]

Red Hood with Artemis & Bizarro (B-Zero version) has been one of my favorite reads in post-N52 Rebirth. People often dump on Lobdell but this has been a fun read.

[@dennismason3740]

"...take back the uniform, Diana, I have dishonored it..." - "...um, that's alright, keep it...".

[@andrewgwilliam4831]

I hope she washed it first!

[@dennismason3740]

@@andrewgwilliam4831 - this channel is awash in bad jokes. I love Sasha but she will never do the awkward dance again.

[@TimmHenson]

10:41 laughed out loud. The moment in my young life when I asked myself, "can there be too much cake?"

[@Vamroc]

I liked Artemis because by using different tactics we as the reader could see why Diana was better in the role of Wonder Woman but DAMN Artemis's hair is the stuff legend in this book HA!

[@bsabruzzo]

My fave Justice League (second to the Detroit team): Electric Blue Superman, Artemis Wonder Woman, Azreal Batman, Harpoon-Hand Aquaman, Kyle Rayner Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter acting more serious and looking more alien, and poor Wally, who was still the same because Barry left in the 80s so he wasn't the new guy but he didn't try his dark stealth suit until the Elite in the 2000s. Ah, the 90s.

[@BlackoutCreature]

If I ever, by some miracle, become a comic book writer, Artemis is so a character I'd love to write for. A maligned and goofy start, but so much potential to do something completely different and fun with the Wonder Woman mythos. And Diana's biker outfit was awesome just for how silly it was.

[@4olufade]

4:48 Beta Ray Bill is probably one of the best examples

[@jamesmcclure3907]

The art was pretty depictive of Mike Deodato (or really, Mike Deodato studios)...he did a heck of a lot of female comic covers back in the 90s, especially the indie stuff. Outside of this, Thor sleeping with the Enchantress was one of his well known works.

[@Awestefeld6612]

Remember when Dianna was stripped of the title in tthe70's A redhead Wonder Woman.

[@rdbull5890]

I remember having those issues as a kid. Similar story line if I remember, but it lasted just a few issues.

[@Awestefeld6612]

@@rdbull5890 the 70's redhead Wonder Woman was a blip that lasted 2 issues.

[@arpitpatel2781]

I want a Video on Redhead Wonder Woman. BTW Her name was Orana.

[@jsimpers]

I think it lasted 3 issues. She became Wonder Woman in one, tried (and failed) to fit in as Wonder Woman in the next (Diana also returned to the US to continue her identity as Diana Prince). In the third, Orana died, and Diana returned her body to Paradise Island.

[@miserypuff]

I really enjoyed Artemis and her story following her stint as Wonder Woman. I'm probably in a minority but i always wondered whether an Artemis tv series could work with her taking over the WW mantle as Diana has been depowered. I think we need an update video on Artemis especially with her being the "Magic of the Amazons" what does this mean?!?!.

[@darkhawk5]

As a kid I loved this arc, but I wasn't a huge fan of Wonder Woman before this and this was exactly what I wanted at the time, a big shake up. It did feel like it lasted longerwhile it was happening but looking back it was a quick blip in WW's history. I will also always have a place in my heart for Diana's new look here, yeah it's dumb but it was also a fun era where Clark was made of electricity and Jean Paul was running around in a giant metallic batsuit. I'll always be nostalgic for the early 90's since that's when I started reading comics.

[@heedmywarning2792]

4:21 Sasha, you are so..... 'cheeky'.

[@quorraquar2677]

I was reading Artemis as Wonder Woman when the books first came out. I thought she looked too much like Jim Lee's Zealot from early issues of WildCATS. I like Artemis's current iteration a lot more.

[@Lance_Manyn]

My introduction to the lovely Miss Sasha was on that nerdy channel that does all the top ten lists. I stopped watching that channel for a specific reason but I couldn't give up watching Sasha vids, so here I am. I always thought she was my favorite lister over there because, honestly, she's so damn fine. And that little hint of a lisp destroys me. But I digress. I just listened to this video while shaving my head, so I physically couldn't watch. I found myself laughing out loud several times, and I thought, "when it's safe to date again and I have the time, I need to find me a woman with this kinda funny."

[@alancooper6443]

You should check out WW #250 and 251 of the original WW series for the origins of the red-haired Artemis. Reference: Orana.

[@calvinallen3424]

This reminds me of Jane Foster Thor. I feel like that story was more endearing though

[@corvus1970]

Jane Foster as Thor was handled very differently than Artemis as Wonder Woman, save for the parental characterization. Odin was depicted as a complete and utter asshole, much like Hippolyta. Although, TBF, it was hardly Odin's first go-around as a completely unreasonable, horrible, abusive parent. Aside from that, there were many key differences. Thor had become unworthy through his own self-doubt, as opposed to anything Jane did. Jane was a long established character with a relatively rich (although often one-note) history, and she wasn't written as as a complete jerk, as opposed to Artemis.

[@wonderhag]

I love all of Diana's alternate costumes. In my ideal DC world, she could just open her closet and put on which ever iteration of her uniform that suits her mood on a given day. I really do love her original look best, though. I hope she returns to the classic outfit eventually. I love the Gal-centric take on her costume that our princess sports now, but do miss the iconic star studded trunks and the red and white striped pointed mid-calf boots. Silver age is my all time fav, when she featured an actual golden eagle on her bustier instead of the "kinda-birdish" double W she's had for the last few decades. Any time an artist does a costume design that makes it look more full and bird-like, my little heart goes pitter patter. Btw, Sash, I love your vids. You are fab and fun. We like a lot of the same characters, wish I were your friend, the convos would be so great. Thanks for keeping me so entertained.

[@tamaran5417]

I love Artemis as a character, and I love the idea of her being Wonder Woman. But, the execution of the storyline wasn't that great, and it's so sad to see. I love how she brings a different leans to the Wonder Woman mythos and how she helps expand the themes that the title often brings with. I find that there's so much commentary you can do with her on her relationship with Diana, Themyscira, the Wonder Woman mantle, and even others. She's a character that's so complex in my opinion that it's so sad to see nobody taking advantage of it as there's so much of her personality and motives to be explored. I suppose I can see why people don't like her, but honestly, I point more to the less than great writing rather than her as a character. I wish writers developed her better and spent a little more effort in expanding her as they do with other characters. She has the potential. It's just that nobody has considered it :/ hopefully, she'll get the attention she deserves soon. I'd buy those books in a heartbeat.

[@louisvlleguy]

Thanks for this!! I was just trying to explain who Artemis was to a friend the other day - so I sent him this video! Perfect timing!

[@MsKambul53]

Hi Sasha. I love when you talk about Wonder Woman and any of the characters associated with her. First, I didn't mind Artemis. It was good that the writers remind the readers that Wonder Woman is a role in the Amazon's government and not a title given to Diana like "Superman" was given to Clark/Kal-El. I didn't like the art with that particular story arch but I realize that you have to accept some over blown depictions because of the financial needs at DC; gots to make those little "hungry" boys want to buy the mag. Personally my favorite WW artists were George Perez and the Terry and Rachael Dobson. The last point that I would like to respond to is the absence of a consistent writing/art team. I think the stories from the past that were always the most successful were the ones where Diana was an agent of Athena and the Greek Gods would invade her world and interrupt her life. Sadly, I would borrow a lot of story structure from Xena, Warrior Princess with the members of the Greek Pantheon consistently like Greg Rucka's "The Hiketeia". Still like that one 17 years later.

[@NightHawke]

The Liefeld-esque art was getting very heavy there for a bit. Then you showed the cover for the beginning of the Byrne run and I wanted to run screaming back to the cake! Yeah, they could have toned it down a bit, but it was comics in the '90s, so there you are. And yeah, I'm there for Diana in bike shorts! Daaaaaaaaaaamn....😍

[@CaptainMcKayRandom]

This was really interesting. I never got familiar with Artemis, but the context makes perfect sense since early ‘90s DC was all about shaking things up, killing Superman, replacing Batman, and apparently Wonder Woman isn’t immune to shock writing trends of the time. After this video, seems like Artemis at this time was the Faith to Diana’s Buffy. Pretty interesting. As for over/underrated comic book costume designs, I prefer Wolverine’s mid-2000s yellow and blue costume over either of his classic looks. Brown costume, Tiger Stripe costume...both great, but the redesign just hits right for me. Great video!

[@leorivers7759]

You are a HOOT and this is a gem. Also, it shows a nice little tale behind the big front. I've ordered it hoping I will catch hell for reading it at my coffee shop.

[@lotusdumplings7066]

0:51 Discowing looks good actually. especially for the time. when the collar got closed up the colors worked nicely together.

[@chriseichenberg6879]

. . . they were trying to Image. Though I thought the best issue of the period was Biker Diana tangling with the Joker

[@kevinscott1547]

I like Artemis of Bana-Mighdall and I always will!!!

[@submsvj]

At least Artemis got more of a chance with Wonder Woman, than Orana did in the Silver Age. I read this arc at the time and remember really liking it. Everything, but Hippolyta. The way she was written during this period made me really dislike her. But, I have to say, watching this video, took me right back to that time. Forgotten, but still much with me. Great video, as always

[@ster9k]

I know this whim is about Artemis, but I couldn’t help reminisce about this version of Diana used in the Amalgam Comics “Bullets and Bracelets,” teaming her with a mix of Punisher/Frank Castle and Steve Trevor. It made sense as Storm was using the Wonder Woman moniker in much the same way as Artemis was. Any time you visit the 90s, you simultaneously make me feel old and young again! Lol Thank you for the content!

[@freespeechisdead1565]

I thought this was going to be a video about Cathy Lee Crosby.

[@TheACcam]

Most of my "what the" costumes come from Marvel. Hawkeye in a skirt. Iron Man with a nose. Thor in a belly shirt. Good stuff.

[@Utubesanarc]

Yea magical time

[@Mokiefraggle]

Thor in the crop-top is definitely one of my "WTF?!" ones. Especially the times when it got so small he was basically just shirtless, and he had Mjolnir on a big-ass chain instead of the leather strap because...reasons? Plus, the weird headpiece thing instead of the winged helmet, that just looked like so many 90s characters (Gambit, Havok, so many Image characters, etc.) that I legit for a moment mistook him for a long-haired version of Havok that was for some reason not in an X-family comic, especially since that was one of those weird places when they also often took away his archaic dialect. Also, Hawkeye in the skirt...is not half so weird as Hawkeye in the lavender shirt with the neckline that plunged to his belt, and the shorts. Never actually read comics during that point in Avengers history, but man...that one was a little bit too disco-era, even compared to things like disco-collar Nightwing.

[@Utubesanarc]

@@Mokiefraggle did you see the cartoon Avengers United They Stand? That Hawkeye looked like a male dancer at a bar. Completely cringey.

[@mgm7198]

Biker Shorts WW looked awesome. I'm with you on that. I'm also a big fan of Artemis but not sure how much of that is Mike Deodator Jr. Okay, good portion of it is. But I also liked her fiery persona as a foil for Diana. Happy that Artemis has come into her own and didn't disappear into the comic book dust racks.

[@1derb0y]

I liked Diana's black outfit because I realized it was going to be temporary and that she would be back in the red, white, and blue eventually. Ditto for Artemis as Wonder Woman. What irked me was John Byrne portraying WW's bob hairdo as being a wig. I suspect it was because he wanted "his" Wonder Woman to have waist-length hair -- which is also probably why he changed her costume (from a pattern of stars on her shorts to two big stars on either side, her belt connected to the WW insignia, and that huge can-opener tiara he drew on her.). A look that I personally HATED at the time. I love John Byrne's art style, usually, but the first several issues of his run on WW were a lot to take.

[@oliverortiz8507]

They took a dig at the IMAGE COMICS guys but they also copied their art style too.

[@owendean907]

That was the style of the time. Everything was over the top. Today I'd argue everything is a lot cleaner and simpler

[@alexthegreat1102]

I read the whole wonder woman-artemis story arch back in the late 90's when I was a young man. My reaction to the high amount of skin and super perfect bodies was that I enjoyed the art but it was going a bit to far for the whole superhero gig. Diana is a SUPERHEROINE for Hera's sake. She deserves the dignity of having her ass covered. I really liked Wonder Woman and collected her regularly. Was Really glad when she got her title back. But lets be real here, sex sells, and even the most macho of men have a secret fantasy of being captured by a band of super physically perfect amazon women and brought back to their island as a sex slave. So in the end you let it slide.

[@thomasdewitt9407]

Reading the arc when it first came out, I liked the fact, that Artemis was Diana's moral opposite, but you had the feeling that her time as WW was not going to last. I liked the hook of Hippolyta's treachery, an element that would come into play later during the John Byrne run. Artemis as Cassie's mentor and trainer along side Diana and Donna was a great way to use the character, and keep her somewhat in the spotlight. However, I am enjoying the newest iteration of Artemis in Red Hood and the Outlaws.

[@K05H]

00:35 "The harness for "reasons"" I can think off two right now lol

[@Shamazya]

Wow, that character looks a lot like Helga from Atlantis: The Lost Empire

[@amandak.5967]

Yeah, I can see that with her face/hair color.

[@Xehanort10]

3:39 Great job as queen there Hippolyta. "As long as Diana's alive whoever else is Wonder Woman can go die for all I care."

[@s.r.7602]

I really loved wonder women's pants and jacket look. Probably one of my favorite costumes her's atlough it's probably because I think biker outfits are cool.

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

I totally agree that George Peréz's run on Wonder Woman was the best. DC editorials really forgot about the words "consistencies" and "continuation"

[@felicea.432]

I enjoy the biker outfit, but I also end up loving any costume from before I started reading comics that everyone hates, they just tend to cross the line into endearing for me. That said, I am one of those stop giving Wonder Woman pants people, mostly just because it feels more aesthetically bland than her regular costume which tends to be my issue with redesigns of female characters that are mostly just there to give them more clothes tend to just be less interesting, and at least the biker outfit is fun in it's own way, and was never going to be permanent anyway.

[@ryanlemay6296]

I love New 52 Wonder Woman's outfit, and I am a fan of Superman Red/Blue fromt he 90s. Honestly, most "hated " outfits in comics, I tend to like. Especially if they are temporary looks that were never intended to be forever, even though fans freaked out. Also fun Artemis sidenote: I was lucky enought to get an action figure of Artemis as Wonder Woman back when Mattel was making the DC Universe figures.

[@felixjaitman2255]

is nice to show a new or diferent side of a hero that evolved so well since WW2 (actually WW1 according to movie) she was shown adapting to new times and keeping her immortality and ever young miracle (mostly all amazons are that way) I guess she showed some sane interest in mortal females in the movie to better fit in that world, or tried to

[@markwarren9200]

I've always liked this arc, and I've always like Artemis. She wasn't prepared for "Man's World" and although her heart was in the right place she really didn't understand the nuances of what was going on around her. And her arrogance really was one of her most appealing features. It's also really striking to look back at this and see just how much Mike Deodato's art has matured since then.

[@alenahubbard1391]

"Let me get this straight: you think that Diana’s biker shorts were a good look?” - I do. And I'm tired of pretending it's not.

[@MrLex86]

I dig Diana with the leather jacket. I don't especially like the current look, only because jeans that tight can make for mobility issues, which is ironic since the one of the reasons for changing it was previous costumes being unrealistic. Could be some magical godly denim that allows for free range of movement though, so I'm not super phased by it. Though the classicist in me loves any time Wonder Woman is in a costume variant that takes inspiration from Greek battle armor. It's so badass!

[@charlieesser1243]

As far as regretible costumes go, nothing beats boob window Sue Storm. You really should cover the in comic history of why it exists, because it gets crazy. There is probably a deep dive story behind the scenes as well, likely mad about 90's comics themes in general and splicing them into classic characters.

[@mediaaddict3997]

These videos are some of the best comic content coming out of youtube right now.

[@Allison_Troy]

You should do a video on the two issue arc on the Pre-Crisis Orana Wonder Woman around issues 250-251 where ... a new aggressive red-headed Amazon takes on the mantle of Wonder Woman from Diana and Diana still returns to Man's World. Also... I am fine with cheesecake when it's more realistic. There is no way anyone's butts and waists should ever look like Dedato drew them back then.

[@williamwilson7479]

Long time reader a nd fan of WW so I have those issues....soon as I saw Artemis and the whole plot I thought of Orana in 250-251 (also didn't Diana straight up *MURDER* warhead...and this was pre-crisis).....can't stand Deodato's art and he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near WW

[@Allison_Troy]

@@williamwilson7479 She totally threw a small neutron bomb at his airplane and it went KAABLOOM! without any later indication that he survived. Some I'm pretty sure she killed him.

[@williamwilson7479]

@@Allison_Troy Yup....I just looked at it again...that was *REALLY* something considering it was the cotton candy pre-crisis DC...I don't know how that passed me by all these years....wonder if Sasha could research WW's pre-crisis kills LOL

[@kcollier2192]

My doctors told me I needed more sass, salt and vinegar in my diet so your channel was recommended- I feel better already. I do remember Artemis as Wonder Woman- DC was really trying SO hard to be different yet contemporary. it's one of those things that doesn't age well it seems...

[@JohnBainbridge0]

You are the second person I've ever heard use the word "hackles," properly. Kudos to you!