Hello everybody! Many of you have pointed out several mistakes made by the archaeological team during their excavation. Let's open up the debate! What do you think they should be reproached for, and what alternatives should they have considered instead?
@Britgirl584 ай бұрын
@SLICEDocumentary I would like to comment, but not as a criticism, but rather as a question. I will preface this question with I have no educated knowledge or experience of archeology. I have watched many documentaries on such things, some much better than others. So my experience is very limited. So my question is, why do I feel as if the finds from these digs were not handled with as much care as I normally observe? Why were all the bones being shoved in a bag that appeared much too small? When the gold covered wood was discovered and the gold was peeling off, it was being held up in windy conditions. Couldn't the gold have just blown away? It also seemed as if they didn't have any boxes to collect the finds. They kept on saying time was of the essence and that they had to wait 4 days for the refrigerated truck, then they were holding things up, leaving wood and bones exposed. Then, finally, when they were finished with the site, all the men started shoveling earth back into the hole. Much of the wood of the tomb was just left laying about and covered willy nilly (to my eyes) with the much and dust. I couldn't help feeling this was a dig to find items worth lots of money and to heck with the rest. Please tell me I am wrong. The second dig - Professor, "I think we should just go on, never mind the snow!" The lid is removed, "Wait wait, we must not let any moisture in! Cover it with a sheet!" Again, I just don't see the care and preparation.
@KimDammers4 ай бұрын
This interesting documentary unfortunately fails to give some important information, to wit, the year of the excavation and the official designation of the site. Also, the "transcript" is full of errors, e.g., the lead archaeologist's name is garbled, and numbers and meters are messed up.
@bruanlokisson86153 ай бұрын
@@Britgirl58 you did observe correctly, it was more grave robbing than anything else, and what happened afterwards simply confirms that it was for wealth and fame not for knowledge or science.
@kenar70893 ай бұрын
They originated from there so not a big deal
@deejannemeiurffnicht17913 ай бұрын
The ancient (ethnic/genetic) Scots of Ireland and Scotland claimed descent from the Scythi. Their Goddess Skytti, or Skatta/Skatha, or scotta (The letters 'a' and 'o' are generally interchangeable in their tongues) was said to be their ancestor, who came from the Scythians. and apparently the name of the isle of skye originates with this legend. where woimen apparently trained warriors in her fashion. So, why wasn't this mentioned instead of the Amazons with regard to the warrior woman? Warrior women were common within some Celtic, Scots, and Pictish women. She apparently bore some relation to, or descent from Egypt's Pharoes.
@jaymehatfield95404 ай бұрын
It is so wonderful that the music was moderated to be turned down or OFF during lecture. Most youtubers think we need entertainment whilst trying to understand meaningful dialogue. Thankyou thankyou
@jo-vf8jx4 ай бұрын
This is a KZbin channel not a KZbin Content creator. There is a difference, this channel posts documentaries. It does not create its own content.
@@jo-vf8jx You are more accurate, or it's something like that. 🔹There's a glitch that causes the background music to have a higher volume on countless KZbin Uploads. It is overwhelmingly assumed the Producer made a Production or an edit mistake. I'm surprised KZbin has yet to address and/or resolve the problem. Many of these documentaries with English overlay, experience the same with the original narrative being so loud it interferes with the English Overlay. .
@SLICEDocumentary4 ай бұрын
@jo-vf8jx To be precise, Slice is a KZbin channel run by a company that produces and distributes creative documentaries. So we're both creator and operator ;)
@Shinobi334 ай бұрын
For a documentary like this you absolutely need background music to set the mood and transport you that world
@sharonkaczorowski86904 ай бұрын
What beautiful, beautiful country. I’ve always found the Scythians fascinating and their art just exquisite. Sadly, it’s often the only the wealthy we know about in ancient burials. Incredible find and so many wooden artifacts!
@Rusty-GB4 ай бұрын
E̶x̶c̶e̶l̶l̶e̶n̶t̶ d̶o̶c̶u̶m̶e̶n̶t̶a̶r̶y̶. But one question that keeps coming back to me. If you are heading to a location to excavate a frozen tomb in the middle of summer. One of the last frozen tombs left on the planet , and you know that once opened and defrosting sets in you will quickly lose organic contents. Why would you not take the refrigerated vehicle with you? Waiting that 3 - 4 days once you have already dug down to depth and exposed the tomb strikes me as very poor judgement at best and idiocy at worst. Fortunately in this case it doesn't seem to have made a huge difference. But it could have been a disaster. *Edit* having had time to review it further I think the terms incompetent and amateurish spring to mind. This really was a half cocked effort that smacks more of grave robbing than proper archeology. Hence i've crossed out my original first comment.
@savedbygrace68534 ай бұрын
Bumbling is the word that comes to mind. Blaming false 'climate change' has become a catch-all for all globalists, pushing their control narrative with themselves remaining at the top of the pyramid. Mankind was in danger of a new ice age when I was young. Anyway, one would consider much better planning for such an archeology endeaver. Still an extremely interesting report - maybe a lesson would be learned for the future.
@whimpypatrol55034 ай бұрын
Funding?
@caroldorsett81704 ай бұрын
My question too!
@mariovillarreal86473 ай бұрын
@@Rusty-GB people STILL SEARCH FOR TOMB OF GHENGIS Khan...
@UurdChuluutNegen3 ай бұрын
2 words. Minimize expenditure.
@mischezizza27124 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting this video.
@PedroFerreira-ze5yp4 ай бұрын
Excelent doc, as usual! Very good soundscore and narration!
@tracynorris50124 ай бұрын
Absolutely Awesome documentary. Thanks so much, Slice. ❤❤❤
@lindagomez31144 ай бұрын
I love Documentaries like this. Very interesting, Thank you 👍😁
@oliviaswarden60774 ай бұрын
Wonderful that artifacts to be returned back where people know their history and heritage. For all to learn.
@KernowekTimАй бұрын
Proper considerate and hugely respectful. As it ought to be, as long as the people possess adequate means by which to store, maintain, cherish and exhibit them in theie public domain.
@MegaCavatina4 ай бұрын
Sedentary people don’t quite grasp what life on the steppes was like. They think of it as one huge grassland where groups of nomads wandered around and some even attacked towns and cities once in awhile. The real life for these nomadic peoples was very fluid. As one researcher who had lived and studied in Central Asia for over 30 years had said: if one tribe of nomads submitted to and joined a larger tribe, within FORTY YEARS they would have so integrated into the larger tribe that they no longer had their own culture nor language but had completely melded with the larger tribe. So, honestly, it’s useless to say they were Iranian or Turkic or Mongolian or whatever- in fact, this fluidity of movement and of integration is proven from this very dig where the woman and the child were “European “ but the man was “Asian “. In a harsh and sparsely habited area, survival was important not ethnicity. Central Asia has been the greatest melting pot for centuries.
@joebloe43744 ай бұрын
That's rare Usually It is Indo European y dna With asian mtdna I can see hundreds of burials that prove that Men travelled on horse back Harder for women How did these "European " women get to Asia?
@mr.purple17794 ай бұрын
These were other Asians associated with Paleo-Siberian Altaic and Ancient Eurasian ancestry. Which broke off from the trunk in the Upper Paleolithic. Modern Central Asians are related to Far East Asians aka Mongols, Nanai or Ulchi ppl. And Scytho-Sarmat samples are always associated only with Tatar origin. Therefore they stand out easily. In general, it is now 60-80% a West Eurasian Europo ancestry.
@allisonshaw93414 ай бұрын
@@joebloe4374 Women of the steppes are and have been excellent riders and were also capable of fighting and hunting on horseback if necessary. Among the descendants of the Scythians who still live in the area, women have their own horses and other livestock, as these are part of their dowry and in local marriage customs remain theirs.
@joebloe43744 ай бұрын
@@allisonshaw9341 yes I know I'm kyrgyz But most kyrgyz women today prefer iPhone 15 to archery and Mercedes benz to horse😆💯👍
@kusperXD4 ай бұрын
@@joebloe4374 Did you watch the video? The second tomb is all about how egalitarian scythian culture was, and how women also partook on fighting, leading and most certainly horseback riding. Genetic archeology Is making amazing contributions to our understanding, but some of the obsessing over Y chromosomes and mitocondrial DNA as sole evidence for cultural practices and ethnic belonging is becoming damaging for the broader and multidisciplinary interpretation
@Britgirl584 ай бұрын
I would like to comment, but not as a criticism, but rather as a question. I will preface this question with I have no educated knowledge or experience of archeology. I have watched many documentaries on such things, some much better than others. So my experience is very limited. So my question is, why do I feel as if the finds from these digs were not handled with as much care as I normally observe? Why were all the bones being shoved in a bag that appeared much too small? When the gold covered wood was discovered and the gold was peeling off, it was being held up in windy conditions. Couldn't the gold have just blown away? It also seemed as if they didn't have any boxes to collect the finds. They kept on saying time was of the essence and that they had to wait 4 days for the refrigerated truck, then they were holding things up, leaving wood and bones exposed. Then, finally, when they were finished with the site, all the men started shoveling earth back into the hole. Much of the wood of the tomb was just left laying about and covered willy nilly (to my eyes) with the much and dust. I couldn't help feeling this was a dig to find items worth lots of money and to heck with the rest. Please tell me I am wrong. The second dig - Professor, "I think we should just go on, never mind the snow!" The lid is removed, "Wait wait, we must not let any moisture in! Cover it with a sheet!" Again, I just don't see the care and preparation.
@jimmatthews59933 ай бұрын
i think that you are being just a bit over critical of this effort. i think that working within the time constraints imposed upon them and the remoteness of the area these guys did a decent job of saving some of the history of the Scythian people before it was all gone. As far as waiting for the refrigerated truck goes- i think that you are ignoring the fact that these research expeditions usually run on a shoe-string budget and obviously did not have the funds to have this truck on stand-bye- though i wish that they had they had elaborated a little bit on their funding sources and their planning. Personally- i wish that they had taken
@hinzuzufugen73583 ай бұрын
Absolutely right. I am sure they took photos of every layer of what they excavated, but from my participation in digs here in Germany I know that at least they used to make sketches with every relevant detail on it. Maybe that has changed. Btw, I was a bit surprised to find Kazakhs in Mongolia. Of course, national borders don't reflect ethnic barriers. On the Karakorum Hightway leading from Kashgar in China, I was hosted by Tajiks.
@Britgirl582 ай бұрын
@jimmatthews5993 I understand about underfunding and not having the ice truck on stand by, but then again, they chose the time of year, and they made the plans. It just all appeared a bit unprepared or underplanned. As professionals in their field, they should know where to spend the money they had, and in my sparce knowledge, I felt their choices were poor ones.
@allypally17684 ай бұрын
The Kazakh lady saying "it wouldve sucked if the tomb was empty lol" had me rolling
@MadMomma-kj9ks4 ай бұрын
Now that these tomb raiders emptied it, it does suck.
@kbpeters42464 ай бұрын
@@MadMomma-kj9ks We learn about different ancient cultures by emptying tombs. Or how else will we learn about these cultures if they leave no written records? Being placed in museums ensures that knowledge is spread to others who can't join these expeditions. They are far safer in a museum than being left to tomb raiders and sold off to faraway places that are secret and private.
@sTraYa2494 ай бұрын
@@MadMomma-kj9ks It will all rot & that's best in your mindset?
@allypally17684 ай бұрын
@@MadMomma-kj9ks boohoo
@allan96034 ай бұрын
@allypally, even funnier had she said " it would be whack if the tomb was empty" 😊😅😂
@TheOldKid4 ай бұрын
About 20 years ago I started working on my family genealogy. After tracing back 7 generations on my dads side I hit a wall. I would get frustrated and put it down and forget about it. 3 years ago I finally found someone else that had been searching theirs and that we were distant relatives and they were able to fill in what I never expected. My line goes back to this area south to the border area of northern Iran. Its been a while since I've looked at it but maybe someone here will know what im trying to describe. There was an important pass where I think the name was Alani or something. I'm going to have to dig that back out and continue the project or just read. At some point going back of course you lose the father to son connection and turns to tribe, location and movement. That pass was the end of the line for myself and the person that helped me. I would've never guessed i had origins near iran/Persia and asia. Then again we are all connected somewhere down the line
@noel34224 ай бұрын
So what? We all came from somewhere, where is actually pointless,we are here now nothing else matters.
@MikeHunt-c5p4 ай бұрын
A whole group of people around 500 BC were called Alens. They were in central Europe
@jujujudio4 ай бұрын
B+ blood type?
@iriecedricjamaican40754 ай бұрын
@@jujujudiowhere does the B+ blood type is mostly found?
@jo-vf8jx4 ай бұрын
@@iriecedricjamaican4075 Asia and Africa. But any ethnic group can have it. I’m Caucasian and B positive.
@MannyEspinola-q4t4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video
@vihreelinja47434 ай бұрын
Respect for returning them to Museum IN MONGOLIA.
@StacyL.4 ай бұрын
They should return them to the ground... STUDY then return to rest where they were.
@sharonkaczorowski86904 ай бұрын
Very glad they were not taken out of country. I would also likevto see the bodies returned to the earth. Museuums in the USA are full of bodies of indigenous people…many taken under dubious, unethical and cruel circumstances.
@JS-jh4cy4 ай бұрын
Who in the world think anyone will see the museum in Mongolia
@JS-jh4cy4 ай бұрын
Almost nobody
@bruanlokisson86154 ай бұрын
Why? they weren't Mongolian, you focus on the far east of the Scythians range why? His grave has been disturbed and looted and his remains are viewed as property, yet you say respect, again why? virtue signaling for your peers? Your peers are not his or mine or any warrior's peer. Until he is returned to where he was interred there is no respect or honor to be had by anyone.
@Biketunerfy4 ай бұрын
I love Mongolian history and culture and I have a lot of respect for them. One of my favourite periods in Mongolian history is the Kublai Khan era when he started to grapple with modernity in the west but respected all faiths - a ruler way ahead of his time. I also love that Marco Polo served in his court for 24 years helping the great Khan understand European culture and trading with Europe. It’s a great read and fascinates me.
@obxarms76854 ай бұрын
The Scythians were not Asian or Mongols. They were proto-Europeans.
@allisonshaw93414 ай бұрын
@@obxarms7685 See my reply below to @bruanlokissin8615. You'll find Scythian ancestry among the peoples of the Altai and eastern Mongolians. Very rarely will anyone from modern European nations have it outside of the western flanks of the Altai Mountains. Really, it shouldn't matter - their blood lives on in the people of the land and some parts of their culture still exist if precariously. As for where the finds of the excavations belong, the area is in Mongolia, not any country in Europe, so there is where they should be.
@harryhole57864 ай бұрын
why?
@Biketunerfy4 ай бұрын
@@obxarms7685 yes that’s right.
@vox_dei_3654 ай бұрын
They say Kazakh culture, but you are talking about Mongolians!
@diyartokmurzin71544 ай бұрын
Incredible! Kazakhs still have very similar ornaments on their traditional attires! We thought they are solely Kazakh, but now I see they are much more ancient
@proudbacteria13733 ай бұрын
And these ornaments are the same in Europe. It is called “fleur-de-lis” ( lily flower). It is symbolic in ancient European culture and probably has connection to ancient pre-Christian religion.
@diyartokmurzin71542 ай бұрын
@@proudbacteria1373 similarly to scyth-saka people, kazakhs ornaments are zoomorphic. At the same time each typical ornament has its name, examples include "ram horns", "fox/fenec head", "wolf's ears", "swallow wings" and so on. For instance one of the found wooden plaques has a shape of Kazakh ornament called "ram horns" and another one "geese neck"
@proudbacteria13732 ай бұрын
@@diyartokmurzin7154 Skythian people had Proto-Vedic religion which had connection to European religions and religion of Indian people. If you noticed Mongols still have Celtic knot ornament which they consider as their own ornament. Mongols forgot that they borrowed symbols from European religions.
@proudbacteria13732 ай бұрын
@@diyartokmurzin7154 Original fleur-de-lis ornament had nothing to do with animals. It is closely related to Indian and European Trident which in India is manifested by Trinity - Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu. Vishnu is equivalent to Birth, Brama is equivalent to Life and Shiva is Death.
@evdokiasamara64834 ай бұрын
Excellent documentary very informative and interesting!! Thank you 😊
@tsundear17314 ай бұрын
I find it hilarious that even super remote nomadic tribes are also like “I hate all these Chinese imported dog shit products” 😂 does Temu or Amazon deliver to a Mongolian plateau?
@UurdChuluutNegen3 ай бұрын
Amazon does 😂
@maxinerowe29254 ай бұрын
Beautiful people
@jusadude71623 ай бұрын
Amazing. So moving. Such a rich culture slowly dying out. How sad. I wish the remaining traditional Kazakhs all the best. We could probably learn a lot from them.
@brookecarr734 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this, it's very interesting and enjoying to watch.
@patmullarkey76593 ай бұрын
If my memory serves, Mithradates of Pontus (and thorn in Rome's side) had a Scythian woman warrior/lover/partner who fought side by side with him in battle.
@Lawman2123 ай бұрын
So many professional archeologists in this thread! Never before have I seen so many.
@2Sugarbears3 ай бұрын
The professionals are those who taught us to see what is wrong with an excavation like this.
@jenniferguy40154 ай бұрын
That was truly awesome! Thank you for sharing this adventure!
@SLICEDocumentary3 ай бұрын
Tank you for watching ! Don't forget to like and subscribe 😉
@arnhemseptember20094 ай бұрын
Totally fascinating!
@durstondarden87653 ай бұрын
Wonderful documentary.. how great it would be to travel through that area - does seem like wonderful people! The archeology is super, and I dearly love archeology.. I'm so thankful to see these things being saved, because so much archeological evidence is being lost to time
@deejannemeiurffnicht17913 ай бұрын
The ancient (ethnic/genetic) Scots of Ireland and Scotland claimed descent from the Scythi. Their Goddess Skytti, or Skatta/Skatha, or scotta (The letters 'a' and 'o' are generally interchangeable in their tongues) was said to be their ancestor, who came from the Scythians. and apparently the name of the isle of skye originates with this legend. where woimen apparently trained warriors in her fashion. So, why wasn't this mentioned instead of the Amazons with regard to the warrior woman? Warrior women were common within some Celtic, Scots, and Pictish women. She apparently bore some relation to, or descent from Egypt's Pharoes.
@diyartokmurzin71544 ай бұрын
Kazakh people in Mongolia are our Qandas, bloodbrothers. By the way in medieval middle-mongolian, the kipchak-turkic "qandas" transformed into "anda" meaning "brother". And the Kipchak-turkic word for brother "Baurym", transformed to "baurchi" meaning "the most trusted/closest"
@timcargile15622 ай бұрын
A beautiful documentary. Thank you so much.
@mariemoller99014 ай бұрын
Enjoyed this very much. Thank you!
@bertvosburg5584 ай бұрын
These type of people will still be riding their horses and living their simple life even if the rest of the world destroys itself.
@cindy4u994 ай бұрын
Yes. We will!
@kathleennorton22284 ай бұрын
Not necessarily. There is way over the technical ability to make sure all flesh ceases to exist. Mark 13:20 KJV - And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. Luke 3:6 KJV - And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.
@jonnylumberjack62234 ай бұрын
@@kathleennorton2228 yawn.
@haraldsigurdsson12324 ай бұрын
I love this channel
@drcovell4 ай бұрын
It is my belief that off-shoots of the Scythians went beyond the Altai Mountains as far south as the Korean Peninsula. I have come to this hypothesis by research into the Art, Religions, and nomadic remnants of Scythian culture analog s that can be found in Korean Archaeology and Shamanistic religions.
@willowgreinke79644 ай бұрын
So sad to see the remains rained on. Ridiculous there is no tent.
@JS-jh4cy4 ай бұрын
No tents used in Mongolia unless it is winter
@margomoore45274 ай бұрын
No wonder the French are not exactly renowned as warriors. The English or German would have been prepared with gloves and tarps.
@SandraNelson0633 ай бұрын
A marquee at least. Even Time Team carried a few.😊
@Phobiaphiliac3 ай бұрын
@willowgreinke7964 we have SO many tents in hollywood. We would donate but our leadership forces it's taxpaying citizens to live in these things. I know I'm jumping topics, but what is "skibbiddy toilet" supposed to mean? And what do I do with all my free AOL minutes CD rom disks now that building 7 is gone?
@Phobiaphiliac3 ай бұрын
@margomoore4527 a gloved and tarped warrior is the only thing that will stop climate change
@peymannorouzi41654 ай бұрын
- This is NOT how an archaeology team should approach an ancient grave, no gloves, untrained construction workers etc. - The French fellow is biased, perhaps to satisfy his Mongolian team. Scythians were an Iranic People. They spoke Iranic Languages, not Iranian and many other languages. There is NO language as Iranian. - If you don’t know the difference between Iranic, Iranian, and Persian, don’t bother to comment! - Turkic People joined the party long after the Iranic People. Twisting facts, fabricating histories and trying to steal other nations’ histories will NEVER compensate their arriving late to the scene. Never!
@Bcs17704 ай бұрын
Do you not think a lot of this was re-enacted? Time Team talked about re-enactments as cameras were not usually on the finds.
@enkhzayazundui10634 ай бұрын
Whose history?
@JoeBidet-yb5er4 ай бұрын
True Turks didn't expand until about 550 ad
@roshanakarya10814 ай бұрын
True. Scythians were a group of Iranian peoples and they are even mentioned in the stone carvings of King Darius of the achaemenid dynasty and the holy book Avesta. Even in modern day Iran we have a province called Sistan. Which means the land of the scythians! So scythians were indeed Iranian and indo_european. PanTurks are trying to make a fake history for political reasons and gains.
@enkhzayazundui10634 ай бұрын
@@roshanakarya1081 it is Mongol. No Iran or Anatolian Turks have nothing to do with it.
@Janeymw4 ай бұрын
Very interesting indeed .
@АрманАрманов-с6дАй бұрын
Тәңір жарылқасын қандай әдемі сөз, қазағым аман бол❤
@garychynne13772 ай бұрын
thank you. all the best
@jameskynge47574 ай бұрын
Very amateur excavation. Handling artefacts with bare hands. Picking up bones and just plonking g them in sacks. Incredible
@apo11o384 ай бұрын
You're a "journalist" who's made a career out of publishing CCP propaganda for Western audiences. What would your grand Winnie the Pooh expect? Destroy everything.
@SandraNelson0633 ай бұрын
All archeology is an act of destruction. That's why excruciating exact documentation of every day's work is so very important. Also, this seemed to be an act of rescue. All rules suspended in order to rescue delicate organic finds.
@ArielManxx2 ай бұрын
@@SandraNelson063 so they were waiting on an ice truck for 4 days but couldn't get a pair of gloves??
@Melrose5165312 күн бұрын
We're sorry
@pavelavramov90104 ай бұрын
Very interesting!
@sharendonnelly77703 ай бұрын
Interesting and well done documentary.
@KernowekTimАй бұрын
Very good indeed. I liked the way that certain info has been shielded, leaving plenty enough to gain a basic understanding. Nomadic warriors left a vast mark of their 'being'. They were the main cause of so-called civilisation taking to wall building. Perhaps read, 'Walls'. A History of Civilisation in Blood and Brick.
@paulapridy68042 ай бұрын
I can't imagine how the team got any equipment to such a remote location. Kudos for all the planning and hard work
@calanmacleod39484 ай бұрын
Wonderfull video. Congratulations on a excellent outcome.
@jwspeakermre59683 ай бұрын
I'm just glad that this documentary isn't centered, every time recently I watched a documentary it's heavily censored even if it's just a skeleton, it's ridiculous.
@bbatjargal1549Ай бұрын
a good documentary!
@KrankyPandas4 ай бұрын
The way they lived and the lands they occupied seems like we Bulgarians were their descendants. The Old Great Bulgaria as we know it comes from the regions of Volga River and before that we have forgotten our history.
@loisrossi8412 ай бұрын
So interesting, thank you.
@Ersen_abiniz4 ай бұрын
East sycthians joined Xiongnu tribes after their golden ages. Y DNA haplogroup R1aZ93 joined step nomadic tribes confederation. Sovwe can said , east sycthians influenced Turkic tribes. Most of kyrgiz men have R1aZ93 subclade z2125 Y DNA haplogroup. Also conquer magyars Árpád dynasty had R1aZ93 subclade Z2125.
@joebloe43744 ай бұрын
I think the kyrgyz received r1a z93 from sintashta people
@zsuzsakiss90424 ай бұрын
That right . 👌
@proudbacteria13733 ай бұрын
Wrong. Arpad dynasty is Z2123 ( not z2125).
@conroc014 ай бұрын
Good example of 19th century archeological excavation. These guys are not professional.
@angiemynia80044 ай бұрын
Made me cringe.
@Tylwaa4 ай бұрын
Herodotus was right again!
@THX-11384 ай бұрын
Every. Single. Time.
@t.durustein21854 ай бұрын
About what?
@VascoZaharra4 ай бұрын
@@t.durustein2185 everything
@gullybull55684 ай бұрын
@t.durustein2185 arians are scythian royalty. not hebrews
@azwris3 ай бұрын
@@gullybull5568 Do you know what arian actually means in Greek?
@pathughes92423 ай бұрын
These videos are sooo building on things that I have been learning all my 75 yrs.. It's all beginning to come together, as the scriptures say it will. Bravo guys for starting this channel I've been with you since the beginning. I thought, for a long time, that I was the only Church member out there who was interested in all these disjointed things and was beginning to think that perhaps I wasn't on solid Church foundations although I always asked Heavenly Father to let me know if I was about to become one of the ones who would fall at the very end, as I had no intentions of doing so... and He never sent me feelings or words to say I was being misled, so I continued to research. I always wanted to be an archaeologist, but now I'm glad I didn't choose/wasn't allowed to follow that path ("There are no female archaeologists dear" - mid 60's downplaying of women's capabilities still). I was soo discouraged to follow my heart due to the closed mindedness of the "Professionals". But now I am glad andwas free to follow what research or researchers I chose who made more sense and were willing to stand alone like Graham Hancock, Joe Rogan, Brien Foerester etc and now yourselves and your guests like Chief Midegah & Lance. I love the exploration you're presenting of the BoM and happily subscribe to both N & S models that Lance is exploring, but lean more to the Heartland model. Can you get Wayne May on your show? He is soo interesting and another amazingly knowledgeable guy. Did (our BoM) man walk with the dinosaurs? Great question.. !
@savedbygrace68534 ай бұрын
Scythians were incredibly fierce horse backed warriors and the steppes are noted in the Bibles descriptions of the last days as part of the coalition coming against Israel as Magog. Thank you for posting this incredible find.
@appaloosa424 ай бұрын
The original purpose and name of China’s great wall was the “wall of Gog and Magag”.
@savedbygrace68534 ай бұрын
@appaloosa42 can you provide the source document for your comment? I would really like to dive deeper into it. Thank you. May God bless you many times today!
@pcka124 ай бұрын
Given that these people kept bodies for later burial it might be the case that children that died were kept for later burial with honoured adults?
@lglubbock75934 ай бұрын
Herodotus said sacrificed
@pcka124 ай бұрын
@@lglubbock7593 quite a number of ancient authors 'spiced up' the lives of the 'barbarians' they were writing about, tabloid journalism is nothing new
@LaughtersMelody4 ай бұрын
It's not impossible, but sadly, child sacrifice was practiced by various cultures in the ancient past. This is supported both by the historical records and by archeological evidence, including human remains and mummies. So, child sacrifice among the Scythians - especially with Herodotus's description - seems to be a likely explanation unless other evidence is unearthed to prove that this is incorrect.
@pcka124 ай бұрын
@LaughtersMelody whilst child sacrifice seems to have occurred with South American peoples, such activity remains an instinctively unnatural act & would require some pressing psychological reason whereas child mortality is in current times unnaturally low, children were often seen as a precious resource in the survival of a people.
@maryblushes71893 ай бұрын
@@pcka12 Herodotus was known for exageration and, frankly, down right lying. Clickbait of his age
@krisiskiss3 ай бұрын
Mongolia is a beautiful place
@Auqalungangler4 ай бұрын
Other than saving these treasures from other thieves you shouldn't be disturbing them at all
@cattymajiv4 ай бұрын
Right. So the theives are guaranteed a great haul, and will be digging there in droves. As if that will help anyone or anything. The land and the artifacts all belong to Mongolia, to do with them as they please. Get used to it.
@SuperKali774 ай бұрын
Acting as wise…..,,,,
@GodzHarleyGirlStudio4 ай бұрын
They’re saving them to keep them from being degraded even more by the ice that’s melting. They have to preserve them for the Mongolian people and were taken to their museum after repairing and cleaning.
@crouchingsmartass4 ай бұрын
Spoken like someone who's afflicted with religious beliefs. The ppl they are SAVING from destruction and looting are almost 3,000 yrs old. They are not in any meaningful way related to the modern Mongolians. We all have a right to know the history of humanity.
@morecowbell2353 ай бұрын
It's interesting that he said Alexander The Great lost to the Scythians. I was always taught that except for skirmishes, the lone battle was at the Battle of Jaxartes, which Macedonia won.
@_pawter4 ай бұрын
The end is spoiled by the grrl-boss mythology: better relegated to to the latest pestilential version of Star Wars. Anyone who can say with a straight face that women fought with men as equals using blade weapons has obviously never had a fist fight as an adult in their entire life. Laughable!
@rsvp12344 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@durstondarden87653 ай бұрын
I wish there was a centralized database of all ancient DNA found an archaeological sites.. just imagine the information that could be gained from that, as it relates to current population dispersions.
@readthetype4 ай бұрын
At ~29 mins: _“…the Scythian were mounted archers. Their battle strategy was based on the use of highly mobile forces that could pursue the enemy for hours. The populations that inhabited the steppe, _*_and the people that live there today, employ the same combat tactics and rely on mounted archery.”_* There’s a lot of mounted archery combat going on today is there? _“Look out for the mounted archers…”_ _“Not _*_another_*_ group of mounted archers…”_ _“Someone really needs to do something about all those mounted archers…”_ Pretty sure that’s not a today thing.
@MegaCavatina4 ай бұрын
Mounted archers hunt animals or do battle the same way. What he is referring to are the mounted animal hunters of today. They are really good at hunting and can shoot a rabbit or a marmot while on a galloping horse. This way of life is rapidly disappearing.
@KimDammers4 ай бұрын
@@MegaCavatina marmots are hunted and eaten, but they are an endangered species.
@MegaCavatina3 ай бұрын
@@KimDammers ALL marmot species? That’s a lot.
@shelleymcafee8197Ай бұрын
That was really interesting; Thank-You! Re the question You posed: The temporary conservation measures used for moving the items to the lab in France seemed appropriate to Me. We only see the immediate actions, and I didn’t hear Anyone say that the remains WOULDN’T be kept cool - so that equipment may have been beyond Our sight. It did sound to Me as though the flight of exhumed material would be immediate, so I don’t worry that damaged will occur. ‘Armchair Archeology’ is fun, but I think it’s important to remember that what We see has been edited; I don’t think We have all of the information necessary to make a judgement call regarding the actions of these Archeologists.
@KernowekTimАй бұрын
Very good indeed.
@ebrupetekkaya56204 ай бұрын
İskitlerin türk germen karışımı bir halk olduğunu düşünüyorum. Gene kazakistanda bir iskit prensesinin mezarı açılmıştı. Dnası yerel küçük bir kazak kızıyla çok yakındı. Sarışın ve çekik gözlü kızdı. Herkese amazonları atlıyor. Bugün anadoluda gezdiğim efes biri tarihi yerlerde hikayelerini dinliyoruz. İskit prensesleri amazon kadınları olduğunu unutmayın lütfen
@boathousejoed11264 ай бұрын
That "Life is Good" hat made me chuckle.
@olympus2583 ай бұрын
Shocking how French scientists still can’t imagine a world where there is no distinction between different ethnicities, and they can’t understand that there was no concept of Europeans and Asians 2000 years ago, these people were different tribes living next to each others, friends sometimes and enemies at other times, true racism mentality hard to change
@paulabibb11164 ай бұрын
Nice show! Great fun , especially l the Woman's Suffrage History. My dear elder cousins grandmother was force fed at the same time. How far we have come. WE WON"T GO BACK!
@Itssmial_Ova4 ай бұрын
This "Archeology" looks very close to looting in lab coats.
@danecrude4 ай бұрын
just wandering when someone will be able to dig up my grave and put it on ytube.
@meemo320864 ай бұрын
Yes, but like they said at the beginning, these are being destroyed by climate changes. They're racing and out of time to find these things.
@Sk8Vader2 ай бұрын
Agreed
@Sk8Vader2 ай бұрын
@@danecrude😅
@salparadise1220Ай бұрын
That is a sad sight indeed - clustered around the television like that. If only they knew what it will cost them.
@joelhall38204 ай бұрын
I have been slowly working on getting my right arm tattooed with Scythian art.
@doktorreginapeters5294 ай бұрын
What kind of archeologist are those people? They touch the scythian objekts with bare fingers. Did not they hear yet that you have to wear gloves touching archeological finds?
@JS-jh4cy4 ай бұрын
They are trainees conscripted for monogolia political employment numbers
@dai-nippon_digger4 ай бұрын
You don't have to. In fact, the majority of times, archeologists don't wear gloves while excavating. Typically gloves are only worn when extremely rare or valuable objects are discovered.
@doktorreginapeters5294 ай бұрын
@@dai-nippon_digger No, that's not true. I am an archeologist and I know what I am talking about.
@ilari903 ай бұрын
@@dai-nippon_digger Oils and debris from your fingers may taint the objects, and there might be something poisonous like arsenic been used to treat the stuff. Think what kind of stuff oil from your hands could do to some specimens especially when they let them be unfrozen like this for a while, they could ruin them or make some marks on them which could make difference in what kind of observations are made about them.
@ippolitomarmai4083Ай бұрын
Bravo prof. Giscard, are you fine?
@dustsky2 ай бұрын
Do we know when this documentary was filmed?
@TheSecretOfNem4 ай бұрын
Someone didn't think this archaeological dig through very thoroughly.
@theproductionz2 ай бұрын
Kazakh Mongols VS Kazakh Mongolians very big difference can b seen .........
@jovosedlar3395Ай бұрын
Документарац почиње са Глобалистичком лажи о Глобалном загревању... Како да вам поверујемо остатак емисије? За чију агенду улажете новац у овај програм?
@CarlosGonzales-wm8xx4 ай бұрын
Child sacrifice is sad.
@BobSmith-uw9ht4 ай бұрын
Yah but its 2000 years old so who cares lol
@kayleighllyn82534 ай бұрын
...don't you love the gods??
@kathleennorton22284 ай бұрын
Adults who sacrificed their children were far from saving knowledge of God. Little did they know that it was only their sacrificed children that would make it into heaven. Children who die before their age of accountability go to heaven, by shear grace.
@CarlosGonzales-wm8xx4 ай бұрын
@@kathleennorton2228 Best comment on any KZbin channel I've read all week.
@aaronjaben79134 ай бұрын
Yes! They smoked weed (hashish)! A bag of cannabis was also found in a frozen tomb in Siberia.
@joebloe43744 ай бұрын
It grows wild there Pick and smoke
@andoborbor16164 ай бұрын
В России нашли золотой прибор для курения с остатками вещества.
@emilymvance4 ай бұрын
While I appreciate the finding and examining of the Dead - it is Still tomb robing a desecration- I wish they would return the Body to the tomb..,
@drivenmad76764 ай бұрын
To actually see the effects of media(TV) on a nomadic people is shocking. It's all in the eyes.
@HereIGooooo3 ай бұрын
What can a large pizza do the an Archaeologist can’t? Feed a family of 4.
@bobakbobak25882 ай бұрын
I'm a Pars(Persian) and one of my friends is a 6 6 red-headed Scythian originally from Ossetia(Ossetians are one of the Iraninc people and the Aryan cousins of the Persians). If you visit the Perspolis(Parseh) in Shiraz and Bisotun in Kermanshah(both are very historical cities in Iran) you'll see the petroglyph of Scythians with pointy helmets. Interestingly, while on the Perspolis walls, they're seen hand in hand with their Persian cousins, on the Bisotun wall their leader is captured and captivated amongst others because they rebelled against King Dariush The Great(a lesson for some of the Kurds and Azaris who are making the same mistake thinking this time somehow it would be different). Anyways, as a Pars, I love my Scythian cousins especially those who live in Ossetia, I think about you every once in a while and I hope one day I get the chance to visit and I highly encourage you to come and visit Iran; after all, we're all Iranic people.
@RoseSharon77774 ай бұрын
Id love to live there in the summer.
@OYisit4 ай бұрын
I remember in one of the readings from Edgar Cayce he mentioned there is more gold buried there than there is circulating in the entire world today... 😮
@caroldorsett81704 ай бұрын
So interesting. But they should o know to never touch the petroglyphs with a finger as the oil from fingers can cause the petroglyphs to deteriorate.
@theduppykillah4 ай бұрын
Earliest recorded use of marijuana is a Scythian fire pit. About 2 .5 metres across full plants and boughs of drug grade cannabis were heaped on coals, a large tent could accommodate a group of warriors, who would sit inside the tent and breathe in the fumes.
@ellen49562 ай бұрын
It's fascinating that the music at the end of the documentary has the same musical elements as old Scottish and Irish music! Some things transcend not only time, but culture. Is there any way to find out the name of the song at the end of the video?
@debbralehrman59574 ай бұрын
Thanks👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@knzjvmatc-32 ай бұрын
I found it interesting that the 'traditional' Mongolian family group had a solar panel sandwich-board and a satellite uplink disc...Hmm...What would Chingis Khan think?...
@kulkrafts31434 ай бұрын
Why does European researchers tends to tie ancient Central Asian culture with Indo-European culture? Scythians and people of Steppes worshiped Sun. Their Greatest Sun was Polaris thus corpse was laid facing North, and head toward East to Sun. These people migrated towards East. They migrated West only when they had to flee from their stronger enemies. Scythians cultures are present as far East as Japan and as far West as Hungary. When Huns subjugated China (non-Altaic) they moved East, but when China defeated Hun empire, Hun elites were captured and taken East but common Huns migrated West and supposedly found Hungary. The importance of gold cannot be over emphasized. There are family name of gold such as Kim; North Korea dictator and Manchurian emperor whom invaded and ruled last Chinese dynasty. The most archaeological gold crowns were found in Korea more than any other ancient kingdoms. There is some legends linking King Arthur of England to be a young conscript from Scythians by Romans. Many Asian scholars believe majority of Scythians became part of Tartar diaspora and Persians, but elites migrated to East to become elites in several Altaic East Asian people group. So how do Indo-Europeans fit into Altaic language, culture and DNA of Scythians? Although the ice grave was found in Mongolia they brought Kazakh family to explain burial culture. I appreciate the research and the documentary, but editorialized history in science should be avoided. All Altaic cultures should have been compared along with DNA.
@darylturner23214 ай бұрын
Yes, all very interesting, but who were they?
@Paul-g9m5j3 ай бұрын
Women were different, suggest you look at Boudicca etc not only could they be important but were primary in the tribe
@rochus_wagner4 ай бұрын
There is nothing to see here, the Hungarians are Scythians, Huns and Avars, the Sons and Daughters of Nimrod, the Grandchildren of Hunor and Magor... the high culture of these peoples is already manifested in the extraordinary language of the Magyars, this is where everything comes from, the linguistic expression, as well as the ancient runic writing of the Hungarians the basis of their high culture. ❤🤍💚
@joymanning-l9n4 ай бұрын
I remember reading about this in the National Geographic magazine a few years ago. The woman had tattoos on her upper arm. Shame they didn't show everything once it was cleaned up, otherwise very good documentary. I didn't know about the grave with the man and child.
@rjlchristie4 ай бұрын
I know they were in a hurry but that's a very brutal and rough excavation.
@CrystalKYCAT4 ай бұрын
I am all for learning from history but what gives us the right to disturb the Dead
@mikebryant6144 ай бұрын
It's not like they mind, they are dead and not even relatives were coming to visit the gravesite as the Scythians vanished long ago.
@terryfox15754 ай бұрын
I don't think that's the point he was trying to make I think he was trying to talk about ethics @@mikebryant614
@wandapease-gi8yo4 ай бұрын
The fact that they are dead and gone and we are not!
@ethos94034 ай бұрын
I wouldn't mind being found like this thousands of years later....if it helps know about my ppl
@slappy89414 ай бұрын
Be quiet.
@yesheytshultrim4372 ай бұрын
Scythians- Xoingnu- huns- mongols/ Turkic.They migrated towards west where the grass was abundant unlike the east dry steppes. The people in Mongolia, some central asia and Altia mountains still wear the hats and customs similar to the Scythians time.The DNA test said it was a europeon woman and Asian man of the bodies. That explains everything.
@yesheytshultrim437Ай бұрын
@@decollector95 I think they will all fall between Xiongnu and Mongal/ Turkic. Turkic applies to people of central asia from western China to Turkey.
@minimaker56002 ай бұрын
I remember reading that the first peoples in the Americas also cooked with hot stones in leather pouches. Whew, can't picture that!
@BenLaws-m9j4 ай бұрын
“Drive in the night” is no easy feat in Mongolia
@SAOS4513163 ай бұрын
The information gained from these tombs is invaluable but they were not dug with best archaeological practice. If these were really the last two untouched ice tombs then they really messed up. Intact tombs of the kind with hollow chambers or mummified remains will degrade in the presence of oxygen in a very short time. They needed proper climate controlled isolation tents and full PPE to avoid genetic contamination. They just lifted artifacts with bare hands instead of block-lifting. Nowadays we do photogrammetry every few centimeters but this seems to be at least decade old footage so that's excusable, but having great big spoil heaps unsorted and unsifted is not. That arm was quite possibly not detached before the excavation as seen by the adipocere and dried tissues. That clip of picking the beads off of the hat remnants irks me because now we won't know how they were sewn on. The way the stones of the cairns were thrown about is a huge no-no because they all have to be documented exactly. The tools used throughout were not exactly delicate; you don't use pickaxes and shovels and trowels in a grave. This is the time for brushes, spatulas, toothpicks, and pipettes. I could go on but it will just make me angry. I'm glad the graves were documented but my goodness was it botched.