The Fugitive Doctor | Doctor Who

[@petirgarda1005]

Make Jo Martin come back on the screen as the Doctor, pleaaase. She's astounding, you can feel the dominance of the Fugitive Doctor every time she's on screen. This Doctor is a badass!

[@TPH250290]

You can only "feel her dominance" because Jodie's Doctor was written so badly.

[@gregevigan]

Make her?

[@Renne308]

She’s got a Big Finish thingie coming out very very soon

[@Doktoren]

Yeah I agree. I like 13, but when Jo was here she just felt right as the Doctor, and very quickly. Really hope we'll see more of her, like in a spin off maybe ? She is the living proof that a female Doctor works

[@greatboniwanker]

The fact that neither one of them recognizes the other is decidedly intriguing.

[@ministermattocks7570]

doesn't matter as neither were the dr when the character is male.

[@novawolf_gaming]

​@ministermattocks7570 Quote from the 12th Doctor "We're billions of years beyond your petty human obsession of gender and associated stereotypes" Therefore if you like the show, you accept this line and don't care what gender the Doctor is

[@goosephillip]

@@ministermattocks7570ok 🙄

[@donteherriott5509]

The character WAS male. Clearly that is a difficult thing for you to comprehend.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@ministermattocks7570No, they are both the Doctor.

[@Doomshroom00]

She should definitely be a multiversal Doctor. The Toymaker making a puzzle of the Doctor's history could split the Universe

[@Doktoren]

Would have been amazing to learn she was The Doctor from another universe, especially with all we learn in Flux

[@rjmcallister1888]

One would think we have not seen the last of Jo Martin as the Fugitive Doctor. That may come soon.

[@gregevigan]

very soon, a spin-off series coming out in a couple days, full cast audio drama from Big Finish.

[@fuccasound3897]

The Fugitive Doctor's adventures continue on Big Finish audio drama.

[@charlielamb03]

Hello, I’m the Doctor

[@MangoIite]

Saw this as soon as she said it lol

[@jyotiguptaa1710]

Hello

[@MangoIite]

@@jyotiguptaa1710 lol 😭

[@DenisLuiz96]

She took it from the top

[@OwenJohnH]

I’m The Doctor

[@Alan1701b]

Loved this episode! Jodie and Jo worked together so well! I am very much looking forward to The Thirteenth Doctor Adventures and The Fugitive Doctor series to come from Big Finish Productions and perhaps for the opportunity for these two wonderful actresses to cross paths again during their audio stories! Here's hoping! 🤞❤❤

[@llt8101]

I love their chemistry. I would have loved a season of the two of them travelling together.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@ministermattocks7570Neither were fake. They aren’t male.

[@fleason771]

In "Fugitive Of The Judoon" Ruth"s flat/apartment windows are similar to The TARDIS & even her mirror is hexagonal like it's interior. Fabulous subtle work by the design team in S12 🥰

[@jazminefitzgerald2593]

Good eye :)

[@Kritigri]

It's nice that this compilation was created and uploaded ahead of the Big Finish Fugitive Doctor series releasing! As a Big Finish fan I must admit, I do wish the channel and/or material surrounding the main show would advertise the Big Finish stuff a little more. It feels like some big secret sometimes, but aren't those stories technically canon? They're commissioned by the BBC, I know that much!

[@utopic777]

Big finish fits around the cannon of the show, but the show doesn't necessarily adhere to big finish. The way I see it doctor who contradicts so much that if you can make a coherent headcannon, that's all you need

[@Renne308]

Everything is canon in a sense! It’s all tangled up all freaky-like, ya know?

[@TreyMcDonaldAnimator]

The plot twist was one in a million lol

[@ministermattocks7570]

and kept on destroying the franchise

[@TreyMcDonaldAnimator]

LOL it's canon now. But hey, things could change. Come to find out the Fugitive Doctor is actually the Valeyard.

[@ministermattocks7570]

@@TreyMcDonaldAnimator Its canon that doesn't fit......

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@ It fits perfectly.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@ministermattocks7570It hasn’t been destroyed.

[@samtamoglia7335]

Bring her back! It would be absolutely amazing to have the first two black Doctors together on screen.

[@jazminefitzgerald2593]

Not only was she the first black doctor, but she was the first black female doctor 🥰

[@gregevigan]

She will be having a spin-off series coming out in a couple days, full cast audio drama from Big Finish.

[@TheDoctorWhoDon]

Can't wait for the Fugitive Doctor series in a couple of days!!!

[@GrimmBookMedia]

A series??

[@TheDoctorWhoDon]

@@GrimmBookMedia A Big Finish audio series, first box set out on the 29th

[@GrimmBookMedia]

@ oh boo, wish they would put more into live action adaptations.

[@bl_nderscore]

i will die mad at how we'll probably never see her in the show again she was great

[@chris-hz2wd]

The Division has the potential to be such a good villain organisation, I love the concept of them being a pre hartnell threat. The Fugitive Doctor was also so well done at being the face of The Doctors mysterious past with The Division, I’d like a return to this story sometime!

[@fleason771]

This is brave to upload but Jo Martin was fantastically cast & her performance in "Fugitive Of The Judoon" was just incredible. Jo was "The Doctor" & an amazing one at that & I'd love to see her come back even with a re-write 🤷🏻‍♂️ That episode when Jo said "Hello I'm The Doctor" my jaw was on the floor!! 🤯 & she cemented it with "We're leaving now. If you know what's good for you do not come looking for me again!!" Simply a badass Doctor 🥰

[@ministermattocks7570]

Jo wasn't the dr as the character is male

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@ministermattocks7570She was. They aren’t.

[@mysteriodylan833]

Honestly, if she had more episodes as The Doctor, she easily could have been a favourite

[@jc6372-u8x]

big finish next week!

[@samtamoglia7335]

"Been" a favorite? She's the Doctor, enough said.

[@kathystavrou5546]

Good, eh.

[@JSP_1147]

Jo Martin was fantastic as the Doctor, she worked well with 13.

[@ministermattocks7570]

she was better than 13 but a fake as the character is male

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@ministermattocks7570There are no fakes. The Doctor is not male.

[@jazminefitzgerald2593]

I still remember the feeling of watching this for the first time... It was a brilliant twist, and brilliant writing

[@ministermattocks7570]

how so when the character is male

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@ministermattocks7570They aren’t.

[@ministermattocks7570]

@@DrWhoFanJ they are

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@ You’ve already admitted they aren’t.

[@matthewbolitho-jones]

I like The Fugitive Doctor

[@MangoIite]

I LOVED THIS EPISODE!!

[@vampire20518]

I loved jodie as doc. My favorite. But this twist is so amazing!

[@barryaldridge1113]

This was one of the really good twists from series 12.

[@anakerose]

Jo Martin was definitely The Doctor in her short stint. She was awesome

[@mikebasil4832]

Jo Martin is quite a promisingly good Doctor. 💙

[@ministermattocks7570]

if the dr was a woman yes

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@ministermattocks7570Which she has been multiple times.

[@leocor42]

Please, please, PLEASE bring her back as much as possible. Easily one of the coolest, most intriguing imcarnations of the Doctor.

[@swiftbird4846]

I’d love to see this Doctor return. Fantastic stuff.

[@cyanscholar5498]

I'm so happy that people came around to the Fugitive Doctor. They're so cool, and I hope we see more of them.

[@Buglass22]

She's brilliant as the Doctor

[@tardistime6857]

No she isn’t

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@tardistime6857Yes, she is.

[@jaytender4949]

Hard to believe it’s already been 5 years since this awesome reveal! Can’t wait for her Big Finish debut very soon 💙💙

[@addedgoatinside]

About time

[@therealcyberwolfman]

00:07 "I'm a traveller in space and time." So, I'm not alone . . . 02:30 Breaking glass on a memory-storing device similar to the fob watch seen in another episode! 06:41 "Check my mind." "My thought to your thoughts, my mind to your mind . . . " Oh, wait! Wrong franchise! ;-) 18:27 Bang! "I'm freelance." Heh.

[@HaydenIsTIred]

It has not been Five Years?? Is the Whoniverse gaslighting me?

[@finnstewart4747]

I wish Jo Martin could've just been cast as a regular Doctor, she's perfect for the role but gets shafted.

[@UnclePhil2k]

Why can't BBC advertise (or even make note of) a forthcoming Big Finish audio story? The Fugitive Doctor audio is out this week, but it's always these sideways nods at the same product without actually being informative. Is this some kind of government regulatory thing because the BBC gets partial-to-full funding from the government?

[@kiofblume]

we need the fugitive doctor back on the screen

[@ministermattocks7570]

why

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@ Why not?

[@GuardianKyle]

The Five Doctors: "As it happens, I am the Doctor! The original, you might say!" Timeless Child Arc: Hold my tea. 🍵

[@gift0fGod843]

I wanted more of this woman!!!!! Fugitive Doctor 💎💎💎💎

[@ministermattocks7570]

but the character is male

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@ministermattocks7570No, they aren’t.

[@Fiberz_]

Why did the Fugitive Doctor's TARDIS look like a blue box? That happened during Hartnell's run.

[@gregevigan]

For dramatic reasons.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

It broke into being a police box before AUC. That doesn’t mean it was never a police box before that.

[@llt8101]

Please make more of the action figures of her wither TARDIS.

[@MeNoOther]

You forgot to add the Fugitive Doctor's last adventure before she went into hiding. Jo Martin last mission was the planet of time where she saw the 13th Doctor in the mirror 5:00 she recognized her the moment the 13th told she was the Doctor. 11:27 is supposed to be before the time the Fugitive Doctor went into hiding and meeting the 13th. That confrontation is supposed to be the Fugitive Doctor, not the 13th Trouble with Time Lords, alway doing things out of order

[@BadBadAngel3]

Jo Martin deserves to be the next Doctor or have a spin off series as 'The Fugitive Doctor'. She has so much presence whenever she is on the screen.

[@gregevigan]

She will be having a spin-off series coming out in a couple days, full cast audio drama from Big Finish.

[@Flettwin]

Phenomenal addition in a very uneven season. She deserves another chance to shine because god damn is she a great Doctor! 🔥

[@rasnac]

Rearranging the origin of The Doctor in such a fundemental way is the worst damage Chris Chibnall ever did to the series as the showrunner. I wont be suprised if this storyline never gets mentioned again for a long while, until some really talented writer finds a way to either improve or retcon it in a clever way.

[@gregevigan]

It's already been mentioned in the RTD2 era, so your surprise is wrong.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

Stop talking utter gibberish.

[@reyramirez5710]

Would love a mini series of this Doctor on Tv. I know she’s doing Big Finish, but I want more.

[@davidjsaul]

Shows how completely out of ideas this show has gotten that it now supposedly has at least five versions of the doctor concurrently alive and running around (x2 David Tennant versions, the Curator, the Fugitive version and Ncuti Gatwa).

[@GreigaBeastDS]

Hmmmmmmmm now why are they uploading this hmmmmmmm

[@jc6372-u8x]

because her spin-off is out next week on big finish

[@GreigaBeastDS]

@ oh, you are right there.

[@Acknowledgerofdoctorwho]

Read the description.

[@ratonanimaciongj7217]

I cant believe jo martín was the bay harbor fugitive

[@WhovianLife]

She'll come back.. one day..👀

[@WaitWhatWho]

Oh she's definitely coming back

[@jc6372-u8x]

yeah next week on big finish

[@grahamturner1290]

A fascinating incarnation, brilliantly portrayed by Jo Martin.

[@riveracrobat2001]

I remember that episode very well as I remember I was sick that day, but seeing Jack back was great and seeing this reveal made my head hurt as I was trying to understand it but I accept it and I really like the episode. In my opinion it’s my favourite episode of the 13th doctor.

[@BigPriq]

No amount of promotional material including this tripe amongst the Doctors, nor clip compilations of her "best" bits will ever make it so this incarnation counts. William Hartnell is the first Doctor. The beginning of his story. Anything else is fan fiction and will be disregarded when your watch has ended. And my god, will it end.

[@gregevigan]

She does count. she is canon. NOT fan fiction. & who's watch are you talking about?

[@DrWhoFanJ]

Said no-one with a brain ever.

[@Medeirostai]

In the start I didn't like Fugitive Doctor, I thought it was just another Chibnall's ridiculous idea. But when I started watching this episode I see she was totally badass. Much more badass than the War Doctor. Also, she reminds me a lot of my portuguese teacher from the 6th grade who considered me so much, she was present in the day the robbery happened and I saved everyone at my school. (she was robbed, but when the criminal was arrested she took revenge on him at the police station and recovered her things)

[@GreigaBeastDS]

The Fugitive Doctor might be a silly idea, but the actual Doctor we got is as worthy as all the rest, and I hope we see more. To be fair, the War Doctor was also a silly idea (not to mention last minute) but it worked out fantastically.

[@EnjoyYourbrowser]

🤯

[@llt8101]

One of my favourite Doctors!

[@fleason771]

"Fugitive Of The Judoon" was one of my favourite episodes in S12. The twist threw me for a loop & it really made me think anything could happen!! 🤯

[@DarkknightChris]

It's a shame they hardly did anything with her other than being a tease of the Timeless Child retcon. The 50th anniversary explained entirely who the War Doctor is and gave us an entire character arc of him. Jo's Doctor is a mystery and barely explained and hardly brought up

[@gregevigan]

That's all she was though. Left for future show runners or EU to do things with her, like the spin-off series coming out in a couple days, full cast audio drama from Big Finish.

[@p.g89]

Can't wait for her big finish audio series I've always loved the more down to earth dr's

[@mrwho995]

You guys better bring Jo Martin back

[@gregevigan]

She will be having a spin-off series coming out in a couple days, full cast audio drama from Big Finish.

[@Cav-z1y]

Completely forgot this plot even existed

[@fadikhoory5350]

Anyone blame you?

[@Diosito1]

Its normal they probably know how incoherent this plot is and decide to act like never happen in the show except a few references that you can easy skip them

[@gregevigan]

Well now you remember.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

⁠@Diosito1They know far better than you since it isn’t incoherent at all.

[@jonathanhenderson394]

She is awesome the fugitive doctor that is

[@Chrisyork1989]

Day 1,827 of wishing they would have just cast Jo Martin as the 13th Doctor from the beginning as she is much more genuine and charismatic and felt much more like The Doctor in her less than an hour screen time, than Jodie did her entire tenure as The Doctor.

[@jazminefitzgerald2593]

Ur entitled to ur wrong opinion. They are both equally the doctor, and have both felt like the doctor, the entire time

[@gregevigan]

wrong

[@Colin_Buick]

I can see all the personalities of the doctors in the fugtive doctor. Or is it the other way round?

[@jamalgordon8883]

Black lady was a Doctor Who and this white lady Jodie is a white Doctor Who

[@kerravon7530]

She was really the only good bit of the Timeless Child mess.

[@gregevigan]

no she literally wasn't

[@DrWhoFanJ]

It wasn’t a mess.

[@LewisCorner-k8y]

@@DrWhoFanJ I mean that's your opinion.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@ No, it’s a fact.

[@LewisCorner-k8y]

@ No it really isn't, you clearly don't know what the difference is between fact and opinion.

[@ThistleBlue]

The Fugitive Doctor spinoff when??

[@gregevigan]

She will be having a spin-off series coming out in a couple days, full cast audio drama from Big Finish.

[@rendez2k]

Isn't there a rumour about her being back in the next season? Nicely timed video if so 😊

[@KPJ25Up]

after Gucia?

[@JDEhlert]

I'm sorry, that's a mystery that still has to be investigated more fully. I want the fugitive doctor's life known, and whether it connected to the '1st Doctor' at some point. I think this would be a good end story for the 15th Doctor jumping onto the 16th Doctor as she regens to ...the 1st?

[@IsiahBradley]

😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@MuskieMcKay]

I need two thumbs up.

[@BlakeBond-z3y]

Can't wait for her big finish series

[@notavailable2590]

That’s why there was an excerpt of the Fugitive Doctor’s audio in the last Big Finish newsletter. I should probably read the comic too.

[@Justinfication]

LETS GOO

[@Thomas-kp8mo]

Hated the fugitive Doctor.

[@jazminefitzgerald2593]

Thats okay, we hate your opinion 😂

[@Thomas-kp8mo]

@ So anyone can just show up and say they’re the Doctor and you accept it? This show used to have structure and be fun to watch. Not just do stuff to tick a box.

[@gregevigan]

She didn't like you much either.

[@gregevigan]

@@Thomas-kp8mo They didn't "just show up" they are the doctor. If the doctor isn't a white man it's box ticking? Stop gatekeeping.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@Thomas-kp8moSaid no-one with a brain ever. It is still is both those things. You clearly have no intention of ever being actually intelligent.

[@harryvideoz8863]

I hope they get rid of the timeless child

[@riveracrobat2001]

They won’t. You know why, because RTD is using it for a core point in arcs and it’s in good hands and it’s being used properly.

[@harryvideoz8863]

@ ncuti gatwa has killed doctor who so I don’t think so

[@riveracrobat2001]

@harryvideoz8863🙄

[@Acknowledgerofdoctorwho]

@harryvideoz8863 "@ ncuti gatwa has killed doctor who so I don’t think so" This has been said like, countless times.

[@jazminefitzgerald2593]

You first

[@GrandAdmThrawn]

Fake, cringe and lame.

[@jazminefitzgerald2593]

Yeah we know you are 😂

[@gregevigan]

Yes you are

[@DrWhoFanJ]

Indeed you are.

[@Patrick-pv9pe]

This lady is proof that Jodie was trash. When both of them were on screen, Jo Martin chewed up the entire screen.

[@phantomsidious2934]

Most guest stars in this season would have made wayyyyy better doctors than Jodie easily, biggest miscast ever

[@jazminefitzgerald2593]

Keep ur trashy opinions to yourself. Jodie is as much the doctor as Jo was. They both have amazing "doctor" energy, just shown differently. Which is perfectly normal since every doctor has their own personality

[@phantomsidious2934]

@@jazminefitzgerald2593 huh? What?

[@Jackson-ub1uv]

@@jazminefitzgerald2593 I mean, Jodie's version was far too panicky and out of her depth to be believable as the Doctor, instead feeling more like someone watched a few "n Doctor being quirky" videos rather than actually watching the series.

[@gregevigan]

No she isn't proof. You're trash.

[@newwestboy6653]

One of the worst things ever added to Doctor Who history. The great experiment ruining 50 years of DW, this series dropped the show even further down the ratings

[@gregevigan]

didn't ruin 50 years of Who history

[@DrWhoFanJ]

Stop talking utter gibberish.

[@newwestboy6653]

@ Chibnall and his ideas almost brought the end of Doctor Who, changing his past & sex to please what they thought they should…the stories were bad.. and you could see in the ratings drop. If you look on IMDb they have put Ncuti’s Doctor Who series on its own go have a look. Why because they are trying to distance themselves from the failed experiment of the last Doctor’s

[@newwestboy6653]

@@gregevigan Definitely did ruined what had worked up till the 50 years of his history

[@tardistime6857]

Chibnall fan fiction

[@DrWhoFanJ]

In the same way as all stories are fan fiction by their respective authors.

[@GreigaBeastDS]

In this current time, the only difference between fan fiction and actual canon is if the BBC/Big Finish/Titan Comics publishes it. Chibnall made a lot of mistakes actually, but this is canon now.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@ He made no mistakes.

[@GreigaBeastDS]

​@ Lets not go that far, blind praise is no better than this guy's "fan fiction" comment. The Fugitive Doctor and "forgotten incarnations" are silly ideas at best, but what we got is another great Doctor at the end of the day.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@GreigaBeastDS I’m not praising blindly. Those ideas aren’t silly.

[@ratonanimaciongj7217]

She was better female doctor than whittaker in my opinión

[@gregevigan]

no she wasn't

[@ratonanimaciongj7217]

@gregevigan sorry i forget say in my opinion

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@ratonanimaciongj7217It’s still a lie.

[@CJ-qp7hi]

13 found fugitives Tardis at ghost monument. Fugitive was saved by the Tardis as 13 fall to earth. The doctor becomes the timless child then fugitive. The spymaster being reborn is a the result of the doctor as the timless child being used to rewrite time. (The division) Following the doctors immortality caused as 12 and 1 meeting making the doctor a fixed event. Moments before 13 fell to earth.

[@gregevigan]

what?

[@TaraWert1]

THIS should have been the first female Doctor.

[@gregevigan]

no

[@wardjunior1450]

Nurse what crap

[@DrWhoFanJ]

No such thing.

[@wardjunior1450]

@ crap?

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@wardjunior1450 "Nurse what".

[@MrHDML]

Jo Martin should have been the 13th Doctor. She would’ve carried the stories way better

[@gregevigan]

no

[@Maximusls2400]

Shoulda gave her her own series

[@DrWhoFanJ]

She’s getting one this month.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

(And it’s "should’ve given".)

[@Maximusls2400]

@ nobody cares about an audio series

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@ Many people do. They wouldn’t make them otherwise.

[@BlakeBond-z3y]

I never saw this coming tbh it blew my mind 😮

[@Blessings8241]

That's why I only watch the classic Doctor Who because all these other doctors are just confusing and make no sense at all smh

[@DrWhoFanJ]

They’re not confusing. They make perfect sense. You do not.

[@Blessings8241]

​@@DrWhoFanJYes they are that's my opinion, you do not

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@Blessings8241Lies are not opinions.

[@Acknowledgerofdoctorwho]

How do they not make sense?

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@Blessings8241 I haven’t lied. You are the one who keeps lying. If you "speak the truth", why is nothing you’ve said true‽

[@BurgerKingWhoppersWithCheese]

I Can Not Believe How Trash Doctor Who Is Nowadays 💯💯💯💯💯Now It Is Doctor Poo 💩 💯💯💯💯💯

[@gregevigan]

Why are you here then?

[@BurgerKingWhoppersWithCheese]

@ I Am Simply Letting My Opinion Be Known. The Vast Majority Of Folks Agree With Me, Just Look At How Doctor Who’s Viewership Numbers Have Utterly TANKED 💯💯💯💯💯

[@triforceofcourage100]

No

[@jyotiguptaa1710]

First comment ❤

[@SGlitz]

Proof that Jodie's DEI pic was a very bad idea. JoMartin is 100x better than Jodie.

[@Acknowledgerofdoctorwho]

Wouldn't she also be DEI according to you since she's not just a woman like jodie, she's also black, the horror!!!

[@gregevigan]

Nope not proof at all

[@shawnholbrook7278]

Still work to do. 💙💙

[@sonnyt19]

My head canon for this, because Jo Martin deserves to still be The Doctor. Is like Richard E Grant’s Shalka Doctor. Because he is an alternate universe version of the ninth Doctor. I believe that Joe Martin is one of the doctors, in an alternate universe too. And with Russell making the Shalka doctor canon, I’m hoping he’s working on something along those lines too maybe. ☺️😊

[@DrWhoFanJ]

Jo* Martin’s Doctor was confirmed to not be from a parallel universe.

[@sonnyt19]

@@DrWhoFanJ who by, Chibnall or Russell? Also, I did say head canon.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@sonnyt19 Chris Chibnall. Headcanons cannot directly disregard actual canon.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@ No, it wasn’t. And there is no need for such language. And of course it would be Chris Chibnall. Who else could release such a definitive statement on the character’s origin less than an hour after the episode had broadcast‽

[@sonnyt19]

@@DrWhoFanJ language seriously? And it was The Toymaker messing* with The Doctor’s history. “I made a jigsaw out of your history, did you like it?” - The Giggle 2023 And Chris Chibnall isn’t showrunner any more. Russell is. He put that line in the episode to keep everyone happy.

[@phantomsidious2934]

Better than Jodie easily, in fact season 12 had many guest stars who would have made a way better Doctor than her

[@gregevigan]

no

[@phantomsidious2934]

@gregevigan no? That's some argument there! Alot of thought went into that

[@DrWhoFanJ]

Jodie wasn’t in Season 12.

[@phantomsidious2934]

@@DrWhoFanJ season 12 of new who jackass

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@ New Who does not have seasons.

[@jezballs4018]

Jodi=2nd worst Doctor in the series.

[@gregevigan]

no

[@DrWhoFanJ]

Jodi=no such person exists.

[@jezballs4018]

@@DrWhoFanJ I knew you would come crying after eating your beans and toast🙂

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@jezballs4018I’m not crying. I haven’t had beans on toast for years.

[@TwilightLink77]

Hopefully she is The Doctor between the Second Doctor and the Third Doctor.

[@gregevigan]

She isn't

[@DrWhoFanJ]

She isn’t. She’s always been explicitly pre-Hartnell.

[@UnspeakabIeGaming]

Using that particular ‘Power of the Doctor’ clip was a choice.

[@RTheu2109]

Yeah, after The Giggle, Ruth Doctor makes so much more sense now

[@eugene719]

How so?

[@RTheu2109]

@@eugene719 Well, the Doctor and the TARDIS were split in two, so Ruth could be the other Doctor that decided to stay with Donna but who knows how much time passed between that and Ruths regeneration.The only thing that counter this idea is that Ruth doesn't recognise this past self so something else could have happened. But essentially after The Giggle there's two Doctors in the universe now. Also i don't buy the theory that Ruth is a pre-hartnell version, mostly because its a fact that it is the first Doctor that steals the TARDIS, so Ruth having not just "a TARDIS" but *THE* TARDIS tells me that she comes after.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@@RTheu2109Wrong. She is explicitly pre-Hartnell. She has the TARDIS before it was taken to the repair shop to be fixed. He then re-stole his own former TARDIS unaware she’d already used it before himself.

[@RTheu2109]

@@DrWhoFanJ Right, i forgot about the whole Division plot. But the more of pre-hartnell things they add, the more belivable the timeless children plot becomes, and while i don't completely deny it anymore, that's still already a massive plot to swallow that they just didn't elaborate more.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@ It’s almost like it was *designed* to add mystery back to the character and the show. Explaining it much further would have ruined the point of the exercise.

[@Immortal-Headcase]

I never watched this season, and if you ask me if the fugitive Doctor was 13 I probably would have.

[@gregevigan]

well she wasn't

[@aresef]

Jo Martin was great, even if aspects of the Timeless Child etc broke canon

[@jazminefitzgerald2593]

How so? It was already hinted at that the doctor had previous incarnations, with the morbius doctors

[@gregevigan]

Didn't break canon. Dr Who always changes canon.

[@matthewche]

Jo Martin was so good that it made me question why Jodie was cast in the first place.

[@jazminefitzgerald2593]

They were both brilliant as the doctor. Even if the writing was mostly bad