The Function of Thor: Why was he worshipped prayed and sacrificed to?

[@Jungianguy]

If Thor is invoked for health and protection, why wouldn’t people pray to him for mental health reasons as well? Asking for a friend.

[@-RONNIE]

Thanks for the video

[@zachcurtis1283]

When you break down Thor beyond just the myths he becomes even more fascinating and much more relatable and accessible. Awesome.

[@madgeniusgardener]

A bolt of lightening makes more nitrogen available to crops. Plants tend to green up after a thunderstorm.😊

[@Dawnson134]

Excellent video.

[@tommaddox6696]

Really enjoy watching your videos and I definitely can’t wait for your book

[@dtjones8706]

Loved that one!

[@ScottJB]

One of my favorite things about Thor's associations with weddings is the old practice (pre-20th century) in Scandinavia of putting a hammer on the bride's lap. I suspect this practice predates the story of Thrym placing Mjolnir on Freja's (really Thor's) lap, which was probably a comedic reference/"explanation" for the practice that our ancestors would have found entertaining. Your point about Thor (and thus Mjolnir) being a protective symbol lends to the idea that a man pledged protection to his bride by placing the hammer on her lap. It's possible this could date back all the way to the Neolithic when the Indo-Europeans venerated Perkwunos on the steppe. This is a practice we modern pagans should revive. This also could open an interesting conversation about Nordic Bronze Age burials with ceremonial axe offerings (to offer the dead protection).

[@noyzmunky]

Great info man, thank you.

[@ronwiles8237]

Love the magnetic references!

[@duffnailvdfvanderwerf6514]

You bring some stuf to think about on 't table keep it going:) love the vids,

[@bonniecox1638]

Good to see you looking well!!

[@torstenscott7571]

Great video, and thanks for increasing clarity on this subject for so many.

[@81dedhed]

Looking forward to your book dude

[@rattlejaw9976]

"Thor help me with my social anxiety" ( gets crushed by hammer)

[@garychynne1377]

my granfather john had a swear that might be interesting to some. he would say by the thundering christ. it seems a combination of christ and thor. make of it what you will. he never spoke of religion but in the past i think there was a blurring between the ancient and modern religions. have fun

[@AnitaAnneLloyd]

Thank you! Enjoyed this clip very much!

[@DødsDennisDauernd]

I really like the content! But pls do something about the audio noise that appears every now and then. For example after intro, there is some digital fire crackling haha

[@J.Ward-NorsePagan]

Trū words,love you videos.

[@flowithnicole]

Since seeing Thor as more of this protective life force energy, I've really related it to "prana" (meaning life force) from Indian/yogic philosophy. As they all come from the same indo-euro origins, it makes sense. Especially, in the end of your video, speaking to the strength of aura. I do think there's a connection between doing pranayama (breathwork in yoga) and invoking Thor's powerful life force energy. Just my take on it.

[@norsemagicandbeliefs8134]

I though the same but dont know alot about it. Thor too is known to be a very distant parallel of Indra. Are prana and Indra related in any way?

[@flowithnicole]

@@norsemagicandbeliefs8134 hmm that makes a lot of sense. Not that I know of, but I'm still learning about this myself. I'll have to do some research on it, as it's an interesting inquiry!

[@woden999wayne6]

There is a conversation in Upanishads between Indra and Pratardana where Indra says: “I am Prana… Meditate on me as life, as immortality. Prana is Life. Life is Prana. Immortality is Prana, Prana is Immortality. As long as Prana dwells in this body, so long surely there is life.” III.2 (Max Muller, 2004)

[@thorgeist]

Tacitus also recorded that the German’s stated that Heracles visited them personally as well 👀

[@isty4491]

I like where your head is at, but modern christians might tell you that jesus lives inside all of us Just because a person or people believe something to be true to them, does not make it factually true I have strong belief and much love for Thor, but i have never thought of it as an actual person that manifested and shared a beer with anyone You of course, are entitled to believe otherwise Tacitus may well have been an honest and true historian and wrote down exactly what he discovered and was told without embellishment (other than interpretaio romana), but that doesnt mean what people told him was also true, especially if we assume he bought them some ale to loosen their lips

[@justsomeguy4033]

@@isty4491 in ancient times, people served their kings. They went to them for advice & help & authority. The greatest & valiant kings were treated as a husband-owner of the peoples. So after a king died, people would still go to them for advice, help & authorization. But they were now in ‘spirit’ realms, so the people would treat them as an ‘ascended’ spirit-king ..this is the literal definition of a ‘god’. Many gods of many cultures can be traced back to humans. Some even trace back to antediluvian Nephilim & many myth gods are blurred together & recreations of multiple beings. The whole idea of completely fictitious ‘gods’, is only a modern idea from the same people that teach us that the ancient people were too stupid to have built pyramids, monoliths & granite stoneware. It’s just a false narrative that looks at the past through modern cultural [mis]understanding. But that’s just from my own research, I could be wrong🤷🏼‍♂️

[@justsomeguy4033]

There were actually many iterations of & different historical men each called ‘Heracles’. The original or most ancient one is the ‘Libyan’ legend ..it stems from the king of a people that Rome called the ‘Carthaginians’. Their first great king was called in Semitic language ‘the king of the city/place’. The term we know as ‘Ha Milca Ar’ (Hamilcar) ..the title given to a man who was the king that built an aqueduct over the Straight of Gibraltar. A title that later became a name through misunderstanding of language. ..and yes, Rome literally pre-existed their own founding & history. They rewrote their founding & history but their name itself proves they existed long before 750 AD ..as Semitic tongues called these Chittim a nickname that stuck.. ‘the spear peoples’. HaRomaim/HaRomim from Romakh (Spear). But that’s all just from my own fallible research. The point is, Hercules is a name used by many & blurred together into one modern legend. It could have just been the title or nickname given to any valiant hero. Maybe one of the handful of historical men that this name can trace to, did actually travel to the northern pagans. Or Thor, when told among the other cultures, was translated to the term Heracles. 🤷🏼‍♂️ But I do know that Jupiter is most likely just the Latin translation of their forefather, Japheth.

[@isty4491]

@@justsomeguy4033 Whilst both your replies are detailed and informative, only a fraction of what you wrote was unknown to me (the bit about the spear/name derivation) I have read books on these subjects for about 40 years, but admit no formal higher education, as i left school age 13 I mean no disrespect when i say, im not sure what your point is, because while you are clearly speaking on a subject you know well, it has nothing whatsoever to do with my reply to the OP post

[@jmaaybraak]

U could possibly be referring to how many Germanic gods had alternate names, like Odin was also known as Rik. So interesting.

[@AtomicElectronCo]

I think people get Thor and Jesus mixed up a lot...especially the Christians. They want Thor (strong, vengeful, weapon toting and don't take no shiz) but technically worship the God of Love, Kindness, and "Turn the other cheek". I think Thor is much more likely to open-carry and/or have a CWP. :)

[@susandeflora9783]

A magnificent male llion named Thor, living at a sanctuary in South Africa, was struck by lightening and killed on December 5th, 2013, a Thursday. Gives me chills.

[@dracodistortion9447]

hail Thor indeed...

[@StarSeedAcademy8]

Also is the day Nelson Mandela died who was called a lion 😳😳

[@Rykliukas]

That's why I hate when humans are naming their pets in the names of the Gods. Show some respect, humans! There are thousands of nice names for animals

[@MétisPagan]

@@Rykliukasscandinavians have been naming their kids after Thor for thousands of years. What’s so different?

[@Rykliukas]

@@MétisPagan different

[@janelarson7065]

I actually come from a Thor clan--my Norwegian farming family, in ancient times, viewed Thor as their patron god. Oak clan--Eike. Very surprised we still know this! They needed rain at the right times for farming, so the god of weather was closely associated with good crop production. Finns (Ukko) and the Sami (Tiermes) have their own versions of Thor--he really got around. And Thor's hammer was placed on the bride's lap for fertility (and, I suspect, a crude Viking joke, something about hammering...LOL). Also, a saga says Thor is a redhead. Marvel couldn't even get THAT right!

[@corvus9829]

Marvel Thor is different for copyright reasons, just like GOW Thor.

[@audhumbla6927]

There is no such things as a Thor clan. Thats ridicolous. We havent had "clans" for a thousand years. Can you trace your family straight and exact for a 1000 years back? There were cults surrounding certain gods in certain geographical areas, thats all. "Patron god" is the wrong term, its modern. Everyone worshipped Thor. Everyone needed rain. And all the other things Thor do. Many sagas and sources say hes redhead, not just one.

[@audhumbla6927]

​@@corvus9829Copyright? What, who do you mean have the "copyright" to a accurate Thor? Sounds very strange. Everyone is allowed to draw or act, a fit redhead. No one can stop you from being or portraying someone as a redhead, or fit, over copyright. And again, who would own those rights? Snorri? Whos been dead for 900 years?

[@corvus9829]

​@@audhumbla6927 When you create a version of a Public Domain character like Dracula, Hercules, King Arthur etc, you have to create original traits to own that version. That the reason i cant make a Thor that looks like Marvel Thor or a Dracula similar the Dracula from Castlevania. Its not hard to understand lol

[@audhumbla6927]

@@corvus9829 Yeah exactly, not because anyone has "copyright" on the og Thor as you said originaly. MARVEL wants to be able to copyright. THOR isnt under copyright in any way whatsoever, obviously.

[@HansWick]

Can't wait to read your book

[@deandrefinley4851]

First;;; also mixed scandi here love your videos. I’ve started reading the older and younger eddas and really enjoy them!

[@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger]

Hope you saw the conversation thread on one of your recent previous videos where it was discovered Maria Kvilhaug's two best, out of print books are now back in print and available for $15 each on Amazon. We were hoping you might want to do a video dedicated to promoting this re-release since you speak so highly of these books. Mine are set to arrive on Wednesday. I already purchased her Seed of Yggdrasil book thanks to your high recommendations of her work. Just wanted to reach out in case you missed our conversation. Thanks for doing what you're doing for our Old Ways, Old Gods path of our ancient ancestors.

[@James-nk7wq]

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[@norsemagicandbeliefs8134]

Thats good news.

[@sergeyyagelskiy8141]

I am an Russian orthodox Christian, but I am totally buying your book, man. I think your work on this topics is fascinating. Really looking forward to read the book.

[@ThaDirtyMick]

Seraphim Rose would be greatly disappointed

[@jamess1958]

Can't wait for your book!

[@jiml8964]

Is your book going to be on Kindle. Cheers Hairy Scotsman

[@norsemagicandbeliefs8134]

I think so. will see what publishers can do :)

[@elizabethsmith3416]

Oh I can't wait to get your book. I can read some of the runic writings but with the variations from different location finds I have a lot to learn. I have a passion for archeology & historical digs. Thank you so much. I'm glad your feeling better !

[@kenolson6572]

You sound much better than yesterday. I hope you feel better as well.

[@kurtbogle2973]

I had that all wrong. I always thought of Thor as a frustrated blacksmith. He got tired of blackmailing long ago but every time he throws the hammer away it comes back. Oh, well .

[@alastairsmith7984]

Like the way you are thinking! Can't wait for you to publish your book;- will it be available in the UK?

[@norsemagicandbeliefs8134]

Yes I will make sure it is!

[@gustavbjorkstrom211]

Hi, I live in Gothenburg and have been studying the map for a while. Thor in swedish is "Tor". I have found we have many places containing the name "Tor". And, I have found some of those places are in line on the map. For example outside my hometown I found: Tormunden - Torsvik - Tors slott - Torsholmen - Torsby (Gloshed altare) Those place are in line and whats more strange, if I measure distances between I find mathematical correlations such as mid position and golden ratio. Mr "Norse Magic and Beliefs", have you heard of something like this?

[@norsemagicandbeliefs8134]

Hmm very interesting. It may be worth looking more into. Lots more place names with Tor in it

[@willmosse3684]

@@norsemagicandbeliefs8134 We even have places in England named for Thor, like Thursby and Thursley

[@Greye13]

It sounds like your talking about Ley Lines, though I'm not certain. They supposedly make up some sort of power grid and places along the lines are presumably places of spiritual power plus, where they cross each other, or meet up, is supposed to be a very spiritually powerful vortex, or something like that. I don't really know how best to explain/describe ley lines so it's probably better to just search it on the internet. I could be completely wrong of course, but I hope this helps. Good luck. They may, or may not, have something to do with the earth's magnetic field. Not sure on this.

[@Greye13]

@@norsemagicandbeliefs8134 Not to mention there are places in England such as "Glastonbury Tor". I find it curious, but I don't know if there's any relationship between this and the place names in Scandinavia. It's just an observation, lol.

[@gustavbjorkstrom211]

@@Greye13 Yes it's a geographical leyline. But it streches over our archipelago so I think it is not a so called energy line. I have to do more research. I am wondering why the golden ratio appears. This number is associated with the pentagram, and the planet Venus. Can Thor have any relation to the morning star?

[@Ronapauls]

Are there origin theories in the concepts of Norse belief??? Great Job.

[@tylerdav1248]

When will your book be ready I wanna preorder

[@norsemagicandbeliefs8134]

Early next year its looking like :)

[@ladyliberty417]

Always appreciate your giving us what sources we do have even if they’re later writings-and permeated with Christian influence, going to eastern spiritual ideas makes sense in the grand scheme of human history and interchange- Thor will always have relevance ❗️Good luck with your book❗️

[@austinnewby9666]

Excellent job. Love how you go to the sources and seek that purity so hard to find sometimes. As you say ,the religion with homework. Never felt much like work to me cause it's just incredible to get lost in the Edda.

[@BlueeyesofSkye]

Thor seems like a pretty capable dude. What’s not to love. If I’m going to worship a sky god, he seems like a dude I could get behind.

[@annavartiainen438]

Let's not forget Finland and here we have TORSTAI for Thursday.

[@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger]

If you need someone to help proofread your book, just let me know. I did this as a job when I was in the US Navy. I catch typos all the time when I read new books in my collection. I always try to reach out to the authors because I know they'll want to reprint or update their books for future releases, and I want to point out what I've found so they can make the fixes. I just wish I could've helped them before their initial release. Of course, I'm not perfect and might miss some things myself, but at least I can help catch a majority of any mistakes. Let me know! - "Extra Set Of Eyes" in Pennsylvania and a practicing Heathen here to help my Kin, my Clan, my Tribe

[@norsemagicandbeliefs8134]

Sounds good! Canlet you know when its getting closer to finished! Thank you

[@HroduuulfSonOfHrodger]

@@norsemagicandbeliefs8134 Yeah, I'll help if I can. Indeed!

[@laurajaneluvsbeauty9596]

Your videos are so interesting nice to hear about the Norse outside of the Roman’s and other stories!!!

[@cpullic]

Spot on - 🍻

[@elizabethsmith3416]

This Thursday / Friday will be a Thor's day for sure with the longest lunar eclipse blood moon lasting approx 3 1 /2 hrs , with Taurus earth energies!

[@way2tehdawn]

So from what I gathered from what you’re saying is it that Thor was invoked at certain times out of respect like the solicitor felt it would be disrespectful to invoke Thor for a lesser reason like a school test or a flat tire?

[@twinbrooksfarm7795]

Maybe this has been asked before - but what are you saying at the beginning of your videos? I'm learning German so I recognize the 'Welcome', but I can't figure out the second word you're saying. Thanks!

[@jmaaybraak]

I love how our ancient ancestors invoked specific deities/spirits for different reasons at different times, as well as how they blended these entities together if the aspects of each overlapped a bit. I'm thinking of Thor and Freyr here, specifically.

[@whilliamnilsson6788]

Hi, i was just wondering, whats a "prayer" to Oden you can say when you are afraid or like need help?

[@gregoire203333]

I'll buy a copy of your book. Keep us uptp date please.✌

[@shaunlindsay906]

Thor as war drum, his hammer as the drumstick?

[@sonsofodinunitedbybrothers9613]

It seems Eir has healed you, skål

[@dukerufus5334]

Thor I pray to thee to not let me be a bitch in mma practice this week

[@ThorAnderson]

Does your book have a name yet?

[@norsemagicandbeliefs8134]

Still deciding that one!

[@solrart]

People loved Thor so, of course, Thor got associated with just about everything good in life.

[@GrayWolf73]

I think that your theories make alot of sense. Which is why I follow your channel. Combining it with the truth from legitimate sources, just solidifies your theories that much more.

[@teresab2009]

I thought I'd post this about the depression. Also I would NEVER suggest or encourage anyone to stop any medications prescribed by a Dr, ever. For myself antidepressants never worked for me. I've tried most SSRs. A few mood stabilizers made me very aggressively violent. I don't take anything now tho. Depression is actually the bodies normal response to inflammation or any damage or traumas. The body making you depressed. causes you to have to stay in a stationary position and in one spot, so that it is able to heal itself. That's what depression is for. It's literally a perfectly normal bodily function. Whereas a 40hr week stuck inside, with low levels of sunlight, is very abnormal. And very unhealthy since sunlight kills viruses naturally. And vitamin D is essential for just about every bodily function we have to from thyroid chemicals to serotonin and melatonin to building healthy cells walls. Literally. But please I'd recommend that everyone go look all this up themselves. Research it yourself. Please don't believe my information and look it up yourselves. For me it was the oxalates. It sent me to the ER a lot. Regardless of all that, a lot of the stuff with the runes works with sympathetic behavior. It's why prayer works. Also a lot of this is so psychosomatic. Marriages, they were unions made for protection and babies, mainly. The more healthier and stronger the children you had, the more hands you had to help to provide and protect. One thing I've heard but idk for me, was that divorce was so easy. Everything was on your word and there's was honor. I'm big on honor. The golden rule is extremely important to me. For the person being sacrificed, do you know how it was done? Just trying to create a mental picture. Now the last part about the rock. I've often wondered that about rocks. I honestly do believe plants being conscious is possible. For a few years now I think it is, scientist started saying that they believe plants may be able to communicate pain and other so responses. It was written as screaming in a pitch that we're as humans are incapable of hearing. We've known for a while that plants do respond to different types of music. That's fact. Now someone recently said that scientists may have found what equates to a neurological system in plants. Go figure. I've always felt that it's very possible that this planet is alive. That we should all treat it with respect and love. This world is painfully horrific if you really look at everything being done and going on. Seeing it all and unable to do anything sucks tbh. Thank you for your videos. This is all subject matter I really don't know a lot about. Which IDK if it's noticable but I know a lot lol And really until recently, it's been subject matter that others attempted to disappear from the current history records. Like both the Celt's and Irish. I mean only a few hundred years ago, many people thought redheads were evil and witches. Thus being burned alive an @ the stake and many other things. There's a few things I think you may find interesting yourself. There's a video called Secrets in Plain Sight. It's an info bomb for those who don't know how the histories world wide of almost all religion is connected and what's going on today in the world. It's broken down into smaller segments of video so you can choose the parts you want to see and not be bogged down by an almost 4hr video. Oh and I have found the subject matter of Tartaria and what's thought to be a massive mud flood to very educational. There's a channel called, minds unveiled that throws out some very interesting information about the Irish and religion itself. Is there's anything in the Scandinavian historical records about a flood or cataclysmic event other than Ragnarok? That's comparable to the apocalypse written in the book revelations though. Thought you might find the "outside the box" thinking put forth in the videos. Oh and there's also a channel called, Universe Inside You, which goes over the information about manifestation, self healing and the powers of the both the body and mind. I think there are some very valid points made by all of these channels I've suggested. You appear to be the type that also knows how valuable knowledge can be. Thanks again for the videos. I'm enjoying the topic matter and learning about a subject I'm fairly ignorant of. Knowledge is power without a doubt.

[@louispellissier914]

The pics u showed as germanic tribes are actually celtic, even one of the chieftains is wearing an Urnfield culture armor from early iron age. About thursday, the spellbooks actually indicate thursday's eve, that is, the start of Friday, norse and germanic tribes counted the days starting at sunset, the best sourse accounting it is Tacitus' Germania; so each eve was the begining of what we perceive as the next day in modern times, so Thursday's eve is actually early Friday and magic was preferably performed at that time frame considering the seeress goddess Frigg the sourse of her day's power. The ancients thought deseases were caused by thurses and Thor hunts down thuses so he was summoned to fight the thurse that caused a desease, even the pus was thought to be a thurse's doing, this can be seen on the inscription on the Sigtuna amulet, so I don't buy that magnetic thing at the end of the video

[@basslickbasalsock]

Yay book! Audible? Hard back? Paperback?

[@michaelarmbruster586]

Could maybe do a show on Freyr

[@natepenyaa9406]

I thought it was well known that they did in fact perform human sacrifices. Hanging people in trees and all that.

[@MrBarborosa]

Was Thur Uiki (May Thor Hallow) used? Was that on the stones? Was it used for an individual as a blessing or a blessing to thor?

[@weopkasdkopasdpkasdkl8065]

Something that I have also heard (I have forgotten the source) is that Thor controls gravity which is why Mjolnir always returns to him.

[@arcanoflowz]

Interesting also that the magnetic field sketch resembles the shape of some sort of hammer

[@jlburilov]

Well it is said somewhere that his mother is literally earth personified.

[@rodturner4589]

I've read there is at least one stone carved with an invocation to Thor to aid in Seidr work.

[@BreeeYT]

Have you written any books? I’d like to have a book version of your understanding

[@vivianp5962]

Interesting

[@michellestobbs9317]

Thankyou for this upload. Very interesting….. again sacrifice, in the same nature (or energy) of the god! So sacrificing life/and life force by back breaking by an act of smashing or hammering down. Thankyou for this upload Great stuff! ✨⭐️✨⭐️✨

[@robthevampireslayer3211]

You contradicted yourself in the video. First you ridiculed people for praying to Thor to help them with depression or to help them with protection from a bully at school and then you go and describe the ancient function of Thor as a protector and giver of health.

[@StarSeedAcademy8]

I think he just uses his personal view that depression & bullies are things we naturally can handle over invoking a God for but that could be innocent projections by him.

[@bobhead6243]

🙂👍 From old Farming stock myself , and Thor was a name my Grandfather Invoked often when I was very Young ! . I was Born in East Anglia , not far from Mathias Tree Man .

[@redwolf7929]

Thor was the son of Odin a sky /death god and earthmother .It makes sense he controls crops ,and health.If any of you out there are farmers or even back yard gardeners you'll know that the amount of plant growth after a rainy thunderstorm is amazing ,far more than other water.Also you cannot have growth and life without death, metaphorically and practically all very normal and natural ,

[@GothicXlightning]

May the Heart of Mighty Thor stay Strong in you my Pagan brooir

[@kingofmphs]

Thor helped me save a lot of money on my car insurance!👍🏼

[@JourneyIntoAnimism]

"Jesus Rock Star" Love it!

[@ThisTrainIsLost]

Particularly when dealing with religious beliefs, I don't feel comfortable with creating an equivalency between "earlier" and "purer." If you do cling to such an equivalence, you have denied any changes in beliefs over time of legitimacy.

[@hosealdo7563]

Hej! Thanks for your excellent videos! Could you please make one about vikings relations with prussians, curonians, semigallians, livonians and estonians!? Much appreciated, cheers!

[@TedHouk]

We are all stardust. DNA in almost every cell. He/she may be our god. I am he, the integrated self

[@kenny5577]

Could you do more videos about England? I’m very interested myself took few dna test and some mistook me completely for Danish. Others got it right with English some significant Scandinavian. Im very interested in England’s history now with Denmark Norway etc

[@kevinlawler2571]

The ancestry dna studies have been lumping Denmark in with Northern England and Germanic for sometime.. until recently that is.. depending on which ones you used they have been updating them. You have to remember when it comes to dna it isn’t really about where you think your ancestors are from but where their ancestors came from.. and that’s what you got.

[@kenny5577]

@@kevinlawler2571 actually my heritage is from south east of England from Suffolk mostly with a bit from Bedfordshire. Funny thing I looked at a study the Danes did on themselves at an international level on themselves as a country and was published in their newspapers and media I think they found genetically they had the highest resembles of genetics or genes to England

[@kevinlawler2571]

Yes I believe you are correct.. I meant England and Northern Europe.. lol I was not completely awake at the time of my comment. 👍 .

[@CommanderShepard-wq3wo]

17:00 *Another interesting fact that may factor into all of this, along with Mjôlnir being our heart, is that scientists believe that each of us have our own magnetic field* Edit: nvm, you do go into it 👍🏻

[@codewordslinkydog]

Do you have a time you think this book comes out

[@ThisTrainIsLost]

I presume that since Thor is connected to the Earth's magnetic field, those in the Viking Age knew that our globe HAD a magnetic field. I wonder how they detected it. But, moving on, I suspect that my aura is in need of a casket.

[@robgau2501]

I thought Zeus was the equivalent of Jupiter and þorr.

[@keatonjohanson9420]

In regards to the runestones, I'm reminded of a runestone in Sandby, the inscription of which Dr. George Stephens reconstructed as including "while this stone has life." Now, there's no mention of Thor on the stone, to my recollection, and we have to take Stephens' reconstruction with a grain of salt, but I wonder if an animistic idea of "bringing the stone to life," so to speak, would illicit the invocation of Thor.

[@willmosse3684]

Hercules actually is not the Roman equivalent of Jupiter. He is the son of Jupiter, and is himself a Roman Demi-God (the equivalent of the Greek Heracles). This appears to mean that the Roman interpretation of Germanic gods is somewhat inconsistent, because Tacitus equates Thor with Hercules, but the days of the week equate Thor with Jupiter.

[@willmosse3684]

Both kind of make sense - Hercules and Thor both carry a blunt trauma weapon (a club and a hammer respectively), and they both fight a giant serpent. But, Jupiter and Thor are both storm gods, associated with thunderbolts, etc. These different Indo-European pantheons never seem to quite match, so there must have been quite a few changes as they all evolved out of the Proto-Indo-European belief system.

[@rickardt1222]

Very good and interesting video! It can be hard for young, new pagans like me to actually buy this "true" meaning of the Gods. Because the image from our folklores are so strong. But it makes sense and we'll have to mature with time and find ourself in our ancestors faith.

[@bullvinetheband7260]

Have you ever thought that the depression was the specific reason? If a god cannot help you in your daily life then what good are they? These questions must be answered. How is it a bad thing to think were being judged?

[@danberan02]

I somehow doubt that people back at the 900's and earlier knew about the magnetic field of the Earth and the atmosphere. It makes sense, I just doubt they knew about there being any kind of magnetic field or things like that.

[@hosealdo7563]

yeah, and how egyptians build piramides?! do we know? people who lived in nature every day knew about it much more than we do know. Also about energy what it brings. As more as you go away from nature as more as you have left is to guess, what they might feel. But when you "dig in" in both historical writings and go bavk to live in countryside amd meet with natures power and how it inflicts to you, you soon start to undestand what they might feel and believe at that time;)

[@norsemagicandbeliefs8134]

The greeks new about these things almost 2000 years before. Not as well as we know today but they had some understanding of it

[@StarSeedAcademy8]

What people don’t know is time & history isn’t accurate. We’ve had many “cycles”, a lot of our recorded history is only what was picked up/claimed since the last cycle.

[@tonytrismegistusroberts5124]

They say Thor was Marduk who was also Thoth and Hermes aka a Christ consciousness.

[@StarSeedAcademy8]

No that wouldn’t make sense. None of those deities have similarities

[@deltamike0397]

I agree that Thor and the other Gods are feelings/ emotions and events interpreted by pre-scientific minds. I have seen in my personal life that if you believe in the power of something so much (Know that it is there without a shadow of doubt in your heart) that your subconcious will alter situations or bring about some great change over time. I am not Christian, but I live in Honduras and have seen the Christian people here do some amazing things. I Know what I know about Christianity, but they Know what they know as well. So in my opinion the subconcious plays a huge role Faiths and even Magic around the world. Thank you for this amazing video. If you have a Patreon or other ways to donate I would be very glad to help. I am very much looking forward to your book! Keep us posted!

[@redwolf7929]

Hi Devon Musser, you are right about the subconscious and magic-religion.Alot of magic is concentrated thought .The "tools" used to help consentrate are ritual , ,sacred objects ,group participation ,singing chanting etc. When you think about it a lot of valuable things ,foods and materials are concentrations and that's part of why I have this theory. Honey ,cream , gold , iron.Even a garden bed is a concentration of organic matter , and fertility in the soil to create ideal growing conditions for food plants.

[@Shaden0040]

Is it ok for me to invoke Thor on my foorgrame to rid me of Jehobah's witnesses from visiting?

[@deedeskin2439]

The Jay Double-yous stopped coming to my doorstep when they saw my pagan tattoo. Works for Mormons, too!

[@Greye13]

...... [[ Our host over here trying to bash all possibility of love and romance in the Dark Ages ]]...... Lmao! I just find this funny. Now you know, Michael, that at least a small amount of those couples married for love - if the match was lucky enough to work out in their favor of course, Lol. As for Disney? I grew up with the original bloody and gruesome versions of the fairy tales. Disney's sickly sweet stuff turns my stomach, it's unrealistic. I much prefer the originals. This is a really good video and I'm looking forward to your book when it's released. You really didn't have to go the extra mile just to post a video for us. Your voice sounds like it wants to give out. Just take care of yourself and I hope you get well soon. You could try some honey, lemon, and ginger tea for your throat. It might help. Blessings to you.

[@norsemagicandbeliefs8134]

You are probably right. there was sometimes love involved!

[@Greye13]

@@norsemagicandbeliefs8134 Yes, but I do agree with you in that those matches of love were more the exception than the rule. 🙂 Take care and I do hope you're feeling better. Thanks for your time.

[@frankiesomeone]

Did ancient scandinavians know about electromagnetic fields?

[@tennesseeheathen35]

It seems for what the ancestors ask for and want to invoke points to an actual deity like a Zeus type god that is living. But it does make sense that the gods were energies and elements and that is what they were thought to be. It's a little confusing to me but all I can do is continue to learn.

[@redcapetimetraveler7688]

im surprised that the old romans associated Herakles/hercules with Thor... sky god healer protector oracles scriptures or arts...sounds more like Apollo to me. And the duel against Jormungandr looks like the one between Apollo and Python !

[@delucadude1]

I think Jupiter is also a sky God as he is most often depicted at least from the sources I've seen as the roman version of Zeus who is a sky God associated with Thunder. It could be perhaps this is why they are associated

[@willmosse3684]

Many of Thor’s features, for instance relating to thunder and lightening, and weather and sky more broadly, seem to relate to the theorised Indo-European Sky Father god Deus-Pater (from whom the Greek and Roman gods Zeus and Jupiter derive their names). However, the Norse god derived from Deus-Pater is held to be Tyr (I think the link can be seen more clearly in the Anglo-Saxon form of the name, Tiu, which is quite similar to Deus). Any idea how or why the features of the Sky Father shifted to another deity in the Norse, and possibly more broadly Germanic, tradition? Thanks!

[@childeaterieatkidz4208]

Norse gods were prayed to way long before Greek gods were. Little secret most of what Greek gods are is stolen from the norse pagan gods.

[@willmosse3684]

@@childeaterieatkidz4208 I don’t know where you are getting that from. You have any sources? They are both descended from the preceding Proto-Indo-European gods

[@childeaterieatkidz4208]

@@willmosse3684 dude 😂😂😂 the books of old norse and Germanic culture date waaaaay back before anyone wrote anything about "Zeus" or "posidon" I'm so tired of people thinking Greek mythology is older when it litterly just copies most of what the norse had I'm not saying norse is the oldest beliefs but it's wayyy older than Greek beliefs or anything like that look it up anywhere or read any book man trust me.

[@willmosse3684]

@@childeaterieatkidz4208 That is simply not true, because the Germanic peoples, including the Norse, did not have a writing system until a long time after the Greeks. And further, the people we call the Norse did not even exist at the time of Classical Greece. The Norse were an early-to-mid Medieval culture. They came from earlier Germanic peoples who would have existed in the classical era. The earliest writings we have of Germanic peoples are all written by Greeks and Romans, and a long time after they had already been writing about their own gods. And what we have of the Norse sagas and epics were not written down until the Christian era in Scandinavia, well over a thousand years after Classical Greece. This does not tell us when the people who would become the Norse started worshipping their gods, but it certainly is not true that any Norse, or even Germanic, books date to before Classical Greeks, because there were no Norse people, and the Germanic peoples didn’t have books at all at that time. And what we do know from linguistics certainly does not tell us that the Greek gods derived from the Germanic gods. Rather, it tells us that both pantheons descend from a common ancestor, the Protocol-Indo-European gods. Watch the videos on this channel about the Indo-European people. He explains a lot about it. Or for good info based on comparative religion, as well as linguistics and genetics, watch Survive the Jive. I don’t agree with the guy’s politics, but he has excellent information.

[@deadfall0324]

Is there anything for luck on a hunt?

[@norsemagicandbeliefs8134]

Yes actually. but they come in the folk tradition.

[@jonathanmilroy8417]

Love your interpretations...believe in them for sure...but I'm still a bit of a fan boy...hahaha!

[@redterrorproductions1373]

Velkommen alle hammen

[@papinbala]

paganism makes no sense to me, if God made this world it would be one God. but its fasinating to learn about it