The Fusion Core

[@floatwheel]

don't let FM steal this idea tho.🤫

[@vesconewheel]

@@floatwheel as if they could develop it fast enough for it to affect my build timelines

[@TheFloatLife]

As always, great work Stanley! Stoked to see this thing finally come to life I know you've been talking about for a long time. Now you know the drill, please send it to me for six months of rigorous testing 😜

[@HumanSynergy]

just don't give him a jersey loll

[@vesconewheel]

Yeah nah the only way you're trying new boards is if I'm there with it 🤣🤣 see ya soon

[@DirtSickle1]

Jeff can you put this in lamens terms for us dummy's. What exactly does this do?

[@TheFloatLife]

@@DirtSickle1 MORE ROOM FOR BATTERIES. MORE BATTERIES MEANS MORE FASTER AND MORE FARTHER.

[@DirtSickle1]

@TheFloatLife YAY!!! That's what I was hoping it means!!!!! That's all I've been asking for for years since CBXR!!! Natoma loop and more w No range anxiety and torque!!

[@p0rtugeek]

“I’m not going to put any barriers I just want good boards” should be put in every FM’s wall at HQ.

[@miguelbnieto]

“I just want good boards…” This is what makes this sport so special: the fact that it will only get better as technology and collaborative efforts enable it. This is evidenced once again in this video. Thank you, Stanley, for keeping the true purpose in mind: to have more capable, safer, and fun boards to ride!

[@SirWrender]

Hell yeah my dude! I’m so stoked to see it working! The heat remains my biggest concern though haha. But the sort of range and power this opens up is incredible.

[@floatwheel]

oh crap, we had this fusioncore idea 8months before and developed the v2 electronics to fit inside the core, thats why we designed it to be long and narrow, guess now we will have to share the same fusioncore name🤣

[@vesconewheel]

@@floatwheel hey totally down to share the name, and I'd totally guessed that was the reasoning for your PCB shape 🤣

[@floatwheel]

@@vesconewheel yep, originally gonna shove it inside a 5inch core so the v1 electronics wont fit anymore, and also the heat problem with the motor +esc, to further lower the heat, we made it 12fet design, this could live happily inside the core cuz it doenst generate noticeable heat.

[@CoryBoehne]

LOL, we've been working on one ourselves.

[@HumanSynergy]

you get this down i'm buying a floatwheel!!

[@sdmods619]

​@floatwheel ok, but what about the axle heat cooking the ESC? As a heavy rider, the Cannoncore is an absolute beast but at my weight it gets quite toasty. This thing is going to need active cooling or a heatpipe. Maybe special ADV rails that do a better job of wicking heat away.

[@connors694]

this is "how can i make this product EVEN better?" at its finest. great idea!

[@deanaoxo]

You absolutely deserve to be paid. One does not need a patent to protect your design if it is unique. The world now knows you created this, anyone that claims they created it would need to show prior art dated before this, which they can not do. Best of luck going forward, you are a true innovator.

[@FloatyMcFloatFace]

I don’t disagree with you in the fact that it’s an awesome design and Stanley deserves so much credit, it was actively discussed by Tony a while ago that his intention was to put the controller etc in the core and why they designed the canon core that way. Luckily for us they both seem to be on the same page.

[@deanaoxo]

@@FloatyMcFloatFace I'd say he fairly well documented his design, wouldn't you?

[@ManifoldSky]

This is 100% NOT how patent law works!!!

[@deanaoxo]

@@ManifoldSky No, it is not legal to patent someone else's invention. Patent law is designed to protect the rights of inventors who have created new and non-obvious inventions. In order to obtain a patent, the invention must be novel (new), non-obvious, and useful. If someone attempts to patent an invention that they did not invent themselves, it would be considered patent infringement and could result in legal consequences. Patents are granted based on the principle of first inventorship, meaning the first person to invent a particular technology or product is entitled to the patent rights, provided they meet all the criteria for patentability. If you are aware of an invention that someone else has already created, you cannot patent it yourself. However, if you have made improvements or modifications to an existing invention that make it novel and non-obvious, you may be able to patent those improvements as long as they meet the patentability requirements. In summary, patent law protects inventors and their rights to their creations, and attempting to patent someone else's invention is not legal or ethical.

[@RainyCobra]

Dude. I might have to sacrifice my GTV and Floatwheel to get one of these. Literal dream board. Need to see some ride footage!

[@aeraglyx]

Very exciting! Some things I love about this design: - possibility of thinner rails for lower CoG / better clearance - ghosting would be somewhat less terrifying with a balanced board - accelerometer readings won't be skewed by centripetal force and angular acceleration

[@dogbog99]

Him telling FM to do this and to go ahead is insane. All that hard work and development and he’s just like “yeah go ahead boys” talk about love of the sport. FM…. Just hire this dude. Offer him a job or something!!!

[@luisbanz]

The old FM will patent it, claim they invented it and send cease and desist to Stanley. In the past year or so FM seems to be changing for the better so let's hope they would hire him.

[@adamreis5704]

@@luisbanzAs I understand it, it can no longer be patented once it’s in the public domain (on KZbin)

[@MrRelys]

​@@adamreis5704Tell that to FM about the instructables build.

[@fixmypev]

@@adamreis5704 Tell that to Ben Smither. 😅

[@adamreis5704]

@@fixmypev dm me his contact info? I’ve only read a bit about this, and I’m no patent attorney, but I have a couple patents and am relatively confident that they can sometimes be invalidated on the basis of prior art. Happy to run by folks who know more than I do once I have context.

[@elliot392]

Now I wanna see a “super growler” build with a split battery system

[@ed.floats]

Nice bit of lateral thinking right there!! Awesome stuff!

[@Go.el_Hadam]

Amazing work brother.

[@federicotinsay5023]

Tony should really work in this, evolution is really an appropriate description, great work!!

[@Thejustincredible500]

Love this!! The community is really pushing this sport

[@AppalachianBB]

This is HUGE news. The boards will be heavier. But the weight will be worth it!!!

@Onewheel hire this man

[@lennongossman2933]

So much respect for you. Bro is literally changing the whole game for good. Love to see people who innovate. I cant even imagine where we will be in 5 years

[@HumanSynergy]

BROOO, epic job on the product development.

[@Full_Send_Luke]

👏👏👏 awesome work! 🎉

[@enaz1]

Hell yeah this is badass!!! 🔥

[@lostphotographs3936]

Mill some fins for the hub you can bolt on the exterior and just use some thermal pads... or a sheet of Graphene?

[@znzn100]

Could you then make smaller rails and a modest battery to reduce overall board weight by 10lb / 5kg ?

[@carlosalcazar6370]

This is freaking EPIC!

[@RidingWithMau]

That's insane!!! 🔥🔥🔥

[@garrettmaddrill5931]

I really wanna get my hands on a kit to build the ultimate fusion core xrv growler

[@ShaneGCESRG]

Exciting times for our sport/hobby. Was that a slab of Mandalorian Beskar steel? Hope to ride some of these protowheels at the next gathering.

[@jernejfajdiga322]

Thanks for mentioning me and my two little boys, JetFleetF6 and ........ I would be glad to test JetFleetF6 on the CanonCore if I had it😂

[@vesconewheel]

Really appreciate your help man, makes it all possible

[@DarrenAttew]

Wow dude, that's sick!!!! 🔥🔥🔥

[@wayofflow955]

For the heat issue, could you try using heat pipes to transfer the heat out to the rails? I ride off road only and heat is the main enemy!

[@riddimrider]

Nice! I was planning to try to put an external accelerometer into the axle... But if this design can stay cool, it's a clear winner. Now gimme that 5" 🤣 Oh, also, what about the handle.

[@PolarBear002]

So it's called the Fusion Core after Fallout, then you hit us with a "it just works" 🤣 channeling you're inner Todd Howard with this build

[@yes_just_phil]

just commenting for support! ✌

[@farah-5538]

I have 0 electrical experience so i only understand 1% of all this lol, Is there a possibility to order a plug and play kit for a full functioning board to ship ? Anyway, awesome engineering lol, congratz ! 👊✌️

[@vesconewheel]

@@farah-5538 hell nah I'm afraid 😭 This design requires heavy motor plug modification, even if the rest of the board was sent in a functional state. Hence me saying that FM should tackle this design

[@farah-5538]

@vesconewheel Damnit haha, onewheels are the reason i regret not doing electrical engineering lol😆 Well, here's to atleast your FM ticket to send the pioneer in ;) Keep up the good work man ! 💯

[@astroman6188]

What kinda rails can this be used on?

[@freeforester1717]

Time to buy an EUC

[@sp1d3]

Wow the future is awesome

[@haemse]

NICE WORK! What about controller heat?

[@gymkhanadog]

Let's put the hot thing inside of the hotter thing and then not vent it at all. 🤣

[@anthonytran3584]

maybe its been asked but how does the gyro work if its dead center? is there a second sensor needed on the nose/tail cases?

[@vesconewheel]

@@anthonytran3584 well does the board function any differently when you ride it in reverse? Point is, doesn't matter where the sensor is on your board, it'll function the same if it's calibrated correctly

[@surfdado]

Excellent work! Unfortunately I’ve seen zero evidence so far that higher voltage produces less heat… 100V and 50V on the same setup made no measurable difference in motor heat. Also the 30s controllers can’t run as cool as the Thor

[@freedomcaller]

☝️ electrically, the motor will always need the same voltage and current to do a specific thing, and that has nothing to do with your battery and esc.

[@dustinhankins2153]

What are the specs for this new set up?

[@aubreymcgee8230]

What am I witnessing? I've been boarding a month or so, does any one have some definitive videos on terminology and nomenclature about FM one wheels.

[@znzn100]

The computer is in the axle in this design. FM boards have the computer underneath the footpads.

[@DirtSickle1]

​@znzn100 essentially leaving room for more cells up front and balanced weight? More range and torque?

[@znzn100]

@@DirtSickle1 Correct. Personally, Id dig a board that is 10lbs lighter and only goes for like a 15 mile range.

[@DirtSickle1]

@@znzn100 I'd love one that has 5 more miles range and same or more torgue

[@aubreymcgee8230]

Thanks gentlemen.

[@andreas3904]

I'm confused. What is this? What does it do?

[@smokeyBJJ]

You know I ride hard, and my CannonCore never gets into the 60*C. I suspect the airflow not being able to flow through the axle core is causing the higher CannonCore temps

[@garrymullins]

Insane.

[@JonXuereb]

i would have been worried about the IMU not measuring angle and acceleration properly

[@ManifoldSky]

Angle will be unaffected. Only elevation will change.

[@drewzinn6270]

Can I buy one from you? 😅

[@3tch3r]

I would not trust Future Motion's coding and the electronic parts they choose. Floatwheel would have to do it.

[@DC-cm3tg]

If FM bought vow what u gonna do 😄 mad genius

[@starry_3689]

11/10

[@TheZeroBeast]

LFG 🎉

[@TheWillDConstruct]

Heat? :)

[@JonXuereb]

cannon cornholio

[@JoachimLashutka]

Dude. Make your Venmo public or something

[@vesconewheel]

@@JoachimLashutka there's a donate link on the website somewhere ☺️😅

[@turbot888]

whats the point ?? so confused lol

[@turbot888]

just super heavy board lol 2 full battery boxes plus billet alluminium inside motor lol

[@vesconewheel]

@@turbot888 yep, that's the point, you got it

[@vhura_]

cannoncoreussy

[@viperbite18]

bump

[@vesconewheel]

@@vhura_ banned

[@gomrdog]

cannoncoreussy

[@vesconewheel]

@@gomrdog it's over for you

[@gomrdog]

@@vesconewheel it's joever AAAAAAAAAA