The Future Of Bioshock And Its Creator Ken Levine - Luke Reacts

[@Weirdthingswithalex]

Bioshock infinite will always have a special place in my heart. The first game I vividly remember being extremely hype for back in 2013 when I was 11. Man I remember that midnight release. Also, that loading screen music???? So good. It's amazing for falling asleep to on the train. I would know💀💀 excuse the specific anecdote

[@MalcolmLott-x8l]

Same man, I was literally so hyped for the release.

[@LostUkraineGirl]

It was my first game in the series so I will always love it

[@DEVILTAZ35]

When you can consider it is over 10 years since it was released yet your AI companion in the game is still way smarter than any AAA game since lol. I remember how stunned I was that she was always looking out for you tossing you ammo etc. Also just how they handled when she was outside for the first time how innocently she viewed the world like that beach scene etc. it was incredible story telling even just with the way they handled the visual story telling.

[@Weirdthingswithalex]

@DEVILTAZ35 yea Elizabeth is crazy smart. Way ahead of its time. Gives the game such a unique identity.

[@Weirdthingswithalex]

@michaelbondy5666 wouldn't call that sad my friend. Fiction has the power to do that. It's amazinh

[@jksguycode1763]

His story is a rare one in the games industry one where the person who made a studio closed it down not because of failure but because he wanted a smaller team to work with a more personal team

[@Loquacious_Jackson]

Sus

[@Lazrael32]

yeah except he didn't need to close down a whole studio to do that. doesn't mean he didn't but it's kind of silly.

[@jksguycode1763]

@@Lazrael32 I imagine towards the end of development a lot people probably didn’t want to work for him the amount of stories of him having people work on gameplay elements that may or may not make it if he decided to change courses to something else happened a lot

[@Lazrael32]

you can definitely see just how much was changed from the reveal trailer of infinite. i always felt the game (infinite) felt a bit stitched together. they did a wonderful job though.@@jksguycode1763

[@ryanschwarz3024]

"managing creative types" is not even a top 100 problem right now in the video game industry. this video comes off kinda tone def. the problem in the industry is largely the exact opposite. devs are not given the time and support to make the game being promised, and in order to meet deadlines we end up with straight up broken recycled ass games. i would much rather wait 10 years for 1 truly memorable game than play the same Ubisoft, EA, or Activision crap every year. just wait for the game to be done when its ready.

[@Daniel__Nobre]

This! ☝️ but unfortunately companies want to go as big as possible (because executives still equate that to easy short terms profits, given they only look at GTA and COD as examples) and so also hire huge teams. With big investment comes short deadlines but at the same time bloated requests and all ends up falling on the teams that actually have to deliver - and crunch ensues over and over. For me nothing beats small teams, small sustainable projects. But big investment cares not for sustainable long term growth.

[@brainglow_lightbright]

Imagine if dealing with creative types was the major problem lol

[@carbonmachina]

It saddens me that people don't realize that Bioshock Infinite was made exactly in the same process the original Bioshock went through. If you see the Pitch Deck that Take Two signed on, and the technical demo of Bioshock, you'll find that its not the Bioshock we got. It was a more dense System Shock 3-esque approach, with stealth and more Im Sims elements. But, they opted for a streamlined fps in order to convey the themes of illusion of choice. Its a masterclass in game development, and I'm so sorry that people felt let down by Ken Levin (Ken quiting AAA by extension) but they were paid to do their job... there was no harassment, there was no insulting, the game came out great, but there was a power struggle between Ken and the Bioshock 2 director that created a gap of trust between studio and director. So he called it quits, and people still complain. He said himself he didn't want to make Bioshock because he knew the amount of work and stress it would be, and the same employees pushed to make it happen. Same employees that later would be "why isn't this faster? why are we throwing away work that we got paid to do?" It all feels so entitled, but ok.

[@itsprod.472]

I truly believe Infinite brought out the best element Ken had which was his ability to add character to his stories if you know what I mean. For me the intro into Infinite when you first hop into Columbia was insane to me. Same when you first got into Rapture I had the same feeling with Infinite

[@compguy3821]

I was late to BIOSHOCK INFINITE i loved it and it was my first game in the series . I didn't knew about the promises developer made and they were not able to deliver it. But when i played it for first time i was stunned by setting in the sky and world. For the first time player who didn't know about developer promises they will love this game.

[@Dragonrealms245]

It was only after I had beaten Infinite that I learned about the original promises. I still really enjoyed my time with the game.

[@compguy3821]

yeah me too @@Dragonrealms245

[@rometherevenant8749]

Love Ken Levines writing. Him and Sam Lake are some of my personal inspirations to start writing my own novel series.

[@magusxxx]

The song on the Judas trailer is called "Leave Her, Johnny." "Her" wasn't a woman but a reference to a ship. It was based on an old song sailors would sing when they were ready to reach land. They'd sing about all the crap they'd have to put up with and what was wrong with the ship. Meaning: stuff that needed to be fixed.

[@DEVILTAZ35]

That is really cool. I hope the story is as awesome as Bioshock series.

[@Drbaltar82]

It's also the best sea shantie in Assassin's creed black flag

[@BrianAndrewParker]

Ken Levine gave a talk at GDC in 2014 that expanded on his "narrative Legos" vision (at the time) [available on GameSpot's KZbin channel] The ideas seemed pretty concrete and appealed to me as GM in the process of creating my own setting. Applying ideas to create a product is a challenge I don't envy. Blank canvases can be really scary 😳

[@ShotgunRaider88]

I wish i saw more people talking about this specifically. id love to see more peoples opinions on it and its potential but seems no one does their homework enough to watch it when talking about Ken and Judus. Its right at the top of their youtube channel and their website.

[@geordiejones5618]

Yeah but it's been 10 years and he hasn't done shit with it. He said himself he was hoping the talk would help eventually solve some of the problems of narrative legos but it's been all crickets since then.

[@Dead_Hitori]

Ken Levine is one my favorite video game developers ever and Bioshock Infinite is my favorite game ever made, despite already knowing all the development shifts and not getting the true game

[@drakenfist]

It's amazing how well put together Infinite is for a game that is essentially a mess of six-seven different iterations of Infinite, smashed together at the last minute because the company was losing money and needed to get the game out. I attribute this to Rod Fergusson from Gears of War fame. He was well known in the industry as a "closer" and in the last six-seven months of development. He stitched up the game to be as true as he could to Ken Levine's vision. Because apparently he was one of the only ones who could "speak Ken". He was able understand what Ken wanted and worked with him to achieve that. Ofcourse it wasn't all roses. In following years, it's obvious in interviews that Infinite is a bit of a sore subject for Levine to talk about because he there is stil a lot of the finished game that he isn't happy with. Personally I think Infinite falls apart around the half way point, around "Finkton". Before that point I thought it was brilliant. I love ending too. But that middle part. Since I followed Infinite from it's initial reveal, I could see that everything from Finkton to Comstock House was such a massive stitch up where they take a lot of creative short cuts to speed through the story. But overall it's my favourite Bioshock game aswell.

[@splicedup7480]

Bioshock Infinite is incredible. I’ll always stand by that. Then the way they connected everything with Burial At Sea. Genius.

[@RyanLBC]

The way you described him being hard to work with he sounds a lot like Kojima

[@nelsonhamilton8262]

Kojima isn’t really hard to work with at all. Konami is hard to work for lol.

[@RyanLBC]

oh i didn't mean it that way. i meant kojima being a brilliant mind but also a perfectionist delaying releases and using a shit ton of financial resources in the process. @@nelsonhamilton8262

[@acev3521]

Yeah Kojima is overrated af but I've never heard the complaint that he's hard to work with @@nelsonhamilton8262

[@jeanvaljean6433]

@@nelsonhamilton8262 Did you work under Kojima?

[@nelsonhamilton8262]

@@jeanvaljean6433 No but I saw how his studio is filled with people who jumped ship with him from Konami lol. Not hard to draw a conclusion. That and Konami’s mistreatment of employees is well documented if you do 5 minutes of googling/research instead of just watching KZbinrs for all your info lol.

[@davidclough2394]

It's been over 10 years!! Damn Im old, Can't wait for Judus though! Hope it's just as creative as what Ken Levine has done in the past 🙏

[@paulwoodford1984]

old man lol. How is your zimmer frame

[@jazzmengardley750]

I am hoping Judas will come out beautifully. It has a lot of bioshock vibes to it gameplay and design wise even though its in space it still feels and looks like a Bioshock game. I love the trailer song they used for it ❤❤. Bioshock was an amazing game scared the crap out of me cause of the groaning noises from the big daddies and the damn crawlers that would crawl on the wall it just felt like hell underwater literally but the story, gameplay and designs were gorgeous 🤩🤩 i still enjoyed bioshock infinite but story definitely could have been done differently😅

[@Mayorofsexytown1303]

I like Levine even more now knowing he can be a little crazy lol. A true artist. The world he created with Bioshock is on another level. So creative, and made for an incredible game. .

[@AlwaysLoudAA]

Probably my favorite franchise of all time (Bioshock). I don't say that lightly. Can't wait for Judas.

[@DEVILTAZ35]

Hi Luke, the main reason Bioshock Infinite was changed so drastically compared to the original demo was that the game they wanted to make then ended up not fitting into the hardware or memory constraints of consoles. The game was in development based on expected specs of the machines which turned out to be inaccurate. The complexity of Elizabeth AI alone drastically altered how much else they could have on screen at any given time. The end result is still brilliant but it was simply that they knew they would sell the most copies on console compared to PC at that time so it was altered entirely to suit the consoles and PC became an afterthought other than enhanced graphics. There was also meant to be far more abilities than the rather simple ones in the final game. In alot of ways it reminds me of Alan Wake compared to the original PC demo. That game and Infinite I still hold on high regard but I would have still loved to play the alternative versions of both with all that complexity all the same. I think the DLC of Infinite was just as brilliant if not better than the main game overall though as it really made you think which is missing from modern AAA games nowadays for the most part.

[@SayMy_User_Name]

All I know is, every game that has released with ken levine as a creative director has been a damn masterpiece.. development hellnor not, I’m hyped af for this game and I hope it comes out some time this year, cuz as of now there is nothin coming out in 2024 that I’m interested in

[@itsprod.472]

I just hope if the game comes out his story comes back to a return to form for what made his games special. I know many didn’t enjoy Infinite but man that game had so much atmosphere to it, gave it that special feeling it needed

[@Elknkam]

I loved bioshok 3 ,but some kf the original work for the 3rd game looked awsome. It reallty sucks we won't ever get that version.

[@SynthLizard8]

Infinite was above average with 2 being the under-rated peak of the franchise.

[@ryanbentley8475]

Bioshock infinite is amazing,at least the story & Characters are.Why isn't it remembered as fondly as BioShock 1 & 2 then? Well I do agree that gameplay wise it was super linear & the options of combat the first 2 bioshock games were stripped out.Exploration was there a little but hugely stripped back as well.Still love infinite just go in expecting very little exploration & Combat with very few options compared to previous games in the series.

[@joshuajenkins2096]

I’ve been working on Judas now for 6 months… you guys are hilarious

[@handofdoom75]

My most hyped game is Judas rn

[@King-O-Hell]

Bioshock was one of my all time favorite games. I beat it probably 4 times, which I never do with other games. True masterpiece Liked Infinite also, but not as much.

[@hurricane7727]

Bioshock 2 was great too

[@battlep0t]

@@hurricane7727 It was but Ken had no involvement with Bioshock 2 that was handled by another team.

[@hurricane7727]

@@battlep0t I can believe that. The big daddy Protagonist is much more Powerful than Either Bioshock 1 or Infinite Playable Characters

[@Scarecr0wn]

Deathloop´s premise wa amazing but the execution was rather poor (so many menus, the daytimes were static, AI dumb etc). If Judas would work similarly but it would actuially feel like living jumbled mess you need to learn to navigate, I would be extatic as I love these kind of stories.

[@noisecrime]

Deathloop was very much a disappointment for me and as you say was down to the execution/implementation. Its a shame as they showed that the concept worked in the 'Mooncrash' dlc for Prey, but in that case it wasn't a full length game, that allowed the implementation to be more focused and benefit from the players knowledge gained from playing the main game.

[@ghostpants3770]

Infinite took awhile to grow on me but i eventually came to love it. The concept is flat out ludicrous, but its that very absurdity that gives the game its disturbing charm. It's chaotic, otherworldly, whimsical and brutal.

[@jingleballs9935]

I always thought it was good. Different but good.

[@rigs9801]

There are two kinds of nightmare bosses like Levine in the creative industry: type one are talentless hacks that reached their position via charisma or nepotism, and type two are talented creatives who work well by themselves or on very small teams. Levine seems like a type two: lacks individual vision, likes to micromanage, etc. Put on a small team, he'd probably thrive, but leading a big group? Everyone's going to walk on eggshells during meetings because they all realize that this guy is just throwing ideas at the wall until one sticks better than the others.

[@tyronecriss23]

You know, creating and writing is a very nuanced endeavor. Sometimes you have to throw shit at the wall and see what sticks, you have to do things that don’t make sense to others and really have faith in the unknown. It’s really hard to do that when you have a huge team. Everything has to be understood and explained. There is no trust for what you can’t not imagine. I get where you are coming from and I don’t even really know this dude or his work. But this statement feels a bit confined to me without understanding the nuance of creating big projects.

[@Jinkypigs]

​@@tyronecriss23dude nothing you said debunk the op point. Such dude are ill equipped to manage huge team and stifle others creativity instead

[@rigs9801]

sure, it's a little more nuanced than what I said, but throwing shit at the wall only works for so long, and only in the very formative stages of a project. If you're doing that still a couple years after you started? With huge sections of the project?? Something has gone horribly wrong, and most of the time that comes from the top of the team.

[@rigs9801]

People like Levine need to be managed - they need a small-team dynamic with a couple of people around them who can filter the dumbass shit from the good. But in my experience, they don't like that, at least once they realize that's what is being done to them. It makes them realize no one actually has any faith in their capabilities as a leader. They're better off, like I said, on small teams, or working on their own.

[@tyronecriss23]

@@rigs9801 I agree with you. I made my comment before finishing the video and seeing his whole process of things. I still agree with what I said, but you are correct as well. You can’t throw shit at the wall for 4 years and not have a playable development build. As well, he seems to be doing the same with this new game. I agree with Luke too, you need someone to put the creatives on rails at a point. Especially in bigger projects.

[@ThatDorkyReviewShow]

My gosh kudos to irrational on those trailers for bio shock infinite, best I've seen in a long time definitely holds up..

[@JLudd]

Funnily enough Bioshock 2 is my favourite of the 3 and Levine wasn’t involved. I may be due to me platting it first but gameplay and atmosphere wise it was awesome, loved the story too and Minervas Den.

[@asscheeks3212]

I find minervas den more enjoyable than the main game tbh. 2 felt a little too cliche for my taste, maybe im bitter. Idk

[@Natec_k]

Im a designer, i can tell u im not that sensitive, i love constructive criticism

[@Natec_k]

But i do agree with that atatement, most of my friends and other designers ik are sissys, emotional

[@HelloMyNameIsZON3]

I loved bioshock and infinite so I hope that "there is always a lighthouse". Its crazy to think its been over ten years already

[@joelhall7120]

Unfortunately I felt like infinite did not meet up with my expectations. The story just seemed like a mess to me unlike Bioshock one and two. I felt like it was a real missed opportunity. The way the story went down reminds me of how I feel with starfields story and how it loops and twists and turns but it feels shallow. It’s too easy to just say there’s a bunch of different realities and your running through them

[@joelhall7120]

LOVE THE CHANNEL

[@nicktheczar]

he didn't make or write bioshock 2

[@Sumunuhriginal]

I think bioshock infinite is solid but maybe the technology really wasn’t there yet for the game and they should have waited for the ps4 and Xbox one to release. They had a lot of really cool ideas but didn’t pan out as well as they could have. Nonetheless it’s still a very enjoyable game for me and was my first bioshock experience. I’m glad he’s taken his time with Judas and didn’t try to rush another game for the ps4 and xone generation and is able to successfully accomplish all the goals that he wants for Judas. I think a lot of people really focus on infinites Elizabeth plot a bit too much there’s a lot of really great world building and subtle story telling about Comstock and the world he built and the whole revolution thing. Hopefully that’s something they bring w Judas as well.

[@nickhard7615]

A combination of that and the fact that the game feels more like a Call of Duty campaign with super powers and bullet sponge enemies. There's just so much less to Infinite from an immersion and gameplay point of view compared to 1 & 2. 1 & 2. You can only have 2 weapons now, but like every single level had like different sets of weapons, so if, for example, you wanted to max out the Hand Canon, good luck finding one and keeping it supplied (especially when you get to the Lady Comstock fight) while also ignoring the other weapons bc you're more than likely gonna run out of ammo and that Hand Canon you invested in at the beginning how has to be replaced by a repeater that you never invested in for a decent portion of the rest of the game. I also so throughly explore Rapture, every playthrough, I always want to see all of the stores, I wanted to see all of the restaurants, the criminal hideouts, everything. Infinite to me just feels like a sprint from one shooting gallery to the next and no matter how many times I run through it with the specific intent of taking in as much of Columbia as I possibly could, just like I could with Rapture, I just can't. Passed the beginning parts, like maybe up to the point you meet the "give me a soldier's death" guy, the game is honestly just kind of a total blur up until you get drowned at the end. I could go on and on about this game, but yeah. It's not terrible though, it's just "ight." I really wonder what happened to that game that during those earlier years had me constantly re-watching the reveal trailers and early gameplay demos

[@crazychase98]

It was boring

[@realbio5196]

I wanted the original version of the game! They changed the game so much from its original vision. But looking at it now… there was no way it could’ve worked with the technology we had back then

[@Phenylalanin1979]

Yeah, Kojima is a great example of someone with a lot of ideas, but for sure needs someone to manage and edit his work, a lot! I hope Judas turns out great and I do want a new BioShock as well. I don't see Judas coming out in 2024 and Take Two Interactive who owns both Cloud Chamber and Ghost Story are not going to release two BioShock or BioShock-like games in the same year, so the next BioShock is a late 2026 game or even later. I'm fine with that as long as they are good games, and don't have too much "for a modern audience" nonsense in them.

[@lukebrown3658]

He’s the Stanley Kubrick of games

[@Dresdenstl]

I thought BI was an absolute mess. It was nothing like the trailers. The mature themes were toothless. Like the part where you're given the choice to throw the baseball. It just stops you if you choose to do it. Why even give me the choice? Give me some consequences or make Elizabeth hate me more. The game didn't know what it wanted to be, teetering rapidly between sci-fi political thriller and Disney movie. The weapon implementation didn't make any sense. You could upgrade weapons, but there was a two weapon limit. Not only that, but there were TWO sets of weapons depending on what reality you're in, so wtf do you upgrade? I mean the setting was cool, but I'm amazed anyone looks back on it fondly. Go replay it. It doesn't hold up.

[@noisecrime]

The Judas trailer looks less than a game and more of a investor pitch. A collection of concepts and slices created to explore ideas but nothing more, compiled into something that could be called a trailer. Parts of it look really dated graphics wise almost as if it was re-skinned old Bioshock engine, whilst other bits look relatively more modern, though still a bit dated now. What is most disappointing to me is just how familiar everything looks again, like there is no progression or evolution. Then again truly good immersive sims are a rare breed, so maybe it wont matter, though I feel its a risk, especially when we at least got some progression with say Prey or Dishonored.

[@laxmannate07]

Absolutely love the setting of this game.

[@srgdawgface1518]

They way they talked about this game before launch makes it seems so fucking good

[@williamliddell7981]

I would have liked the first idea more than what we got.

[@Ronuk1996]

Sounds allot like the writer for LA Noire who would change his mind everyday. Rockstar had to step in the last few years to give the game a vision and get it finished.

[@adaytoremember592]

Honestly of all the "Bioshock/Bioshock esque” projects in production Netflix film/Judas/ bs4 I think we'll see Judas out first and I have a feeling 4 will struggle to deliver

[@ShawnRaz87]

Tons of games used to do the same thing and their trailers would not be actual game play, but would be CGI made to show what the game play would be like, but not exactly because it looked far superior to the graphics in engine. This was a very common thing and I don't know why this game gets criticized so heavily for it when it happened with just about every other game of the time.

[@improbablyyourdad8458]

I'm tired of non-creative people bitching about creatives being hard to deal with. That's what separates them from you. Creative people become creative because it's hard to deal with others

[@Daniel__Nobre]

True!

[@DJAngelcakes]

So your argument is: “I’m an asshat and that proves I’m a genius.” Ok, enjoy being creative by yourself then. I’m also curious what makes a person “non-creative,” could you elucidate?

[@improbablyyourdad8458]

@@DJAngelcakes my point is that unique things come from unique people, and unique people have to be dealt with in unique ways. Some are easier than others. Everyone is unique in their own way, but their are few people who stand out. For example, Kanye West in his prime was a musical genius but he was also extremely hard to work with. He's unpredictable and outspoken, but his musical mind outweighs the headache. He'd do anything to release best product possible.

[@djrxmx]

The mad scientist who creates masterpiece games

[@Loquacious_Jackson]

Ken Levine sus

[@mjr2451]

I love this game, but because it’s so full of twists that it has little replay value. But it’s still an amazing game. The thing with infinite is that it’s one of the best gaming experiences I’ve ever had even though I’ve only really played it once. There are films I absolutely love that I never want to see again. It’s so linked to its own narrative that the needed to add extra content to extend the game. The only thing in BioShock infinite I played multiple times was the challenge mode that was in the DLC pass.

[@slogZz60]

i remember going to my dads house for christmas and he got an Xbox 360, and had bioshock games and always decided to play them, i always had to log off and couldnt save them but oh well. i remember having the whole day to play infinite and man, did i play that shit for hours, i got to i think the middle of the game before getting off but imo it was such a good game. i always have that game in mind that it kept me entertained for 9 hours.

[@johnbixby4963]

Damn I played bioshock infinite as a young buck. Never finished it, I should play it again.

[@RenegadesRift]

So know we know where Hello games got the idea to show us one thing and deliver something different.

[@oliverpease6719]

Gotta love the windwaker title screen (Luke’s Version) 😂

[@MastaEggWerrr]

LMAOOO Whats with the wind waker singing? LMAOOOO

[@monkaSisLife]

I think the recent ign interview proves that this time it will be different

[@armavir740]

Centralized design documents have been a thing of the past for a long time. Most studios, including Bethesda, use some sort of internal wiki system to keep track of the project instead, as having one centralized design document isn't a viable option when the production teams count in 100s of people.

[@fivemonkeees]

re Kojima and game bloat. I recall playing MGS4: Guns of the Patriots and being astounded (and not in a good way) about the number of cutscenes that finished only to start other cutscenes. It was really annoying. The game itself was really fun, but all the time where the game forced me to watch and not interact while teasing that I might get to play again soon was inexcusable

[@mightquinnable]

I don't think we should worry about this game, tho. If it switches studios, I would be worried

[@magmachicken4402]

Know the best future for bioshock? " Letting it die and making a new idea. WOW It's almost like beating dead horses are bad!

[@magusxxx]

3:22 - When I first saw that poster I thought they were going to have Terance Stamp be Comstock before they changed everything.

[@crazy-acid-trip9765]

Was a fan of swat 4 on pc never heard thst bought up in years 😂

[@paulwade4058]

Ken left irrational. Got everyone sacked. Took like 8 of his mates with him to his new company cos he didn't want to make big games like bioshock anymore. Then 10 years later look at this shit. He made Bioshock again.

[@Unearthlywhales]

7:38 well.. that explains a lot..

[@jarotheboar8398]

I liked Bioshock Infinite, but i still love the first game more, tho i did wish that the games were like the trailers Ill have to wait for Kev to cook up "Judas", it does look promising

[@randomhairline1797]

Amazing for Sony locking this up as an exclusive. But man I wish I could’ve played this on my PC

[@maskva-u6f]

Not sony exclusive Game launch on pc ps5 and Xbox xxx

[@chandrasivaram]

I dont know in other countries and Industries, but in India IT Industry, MNC's (Multi -National Companies) attrition rate is 25-30%. Means every year 30% employees resign voluntarily. If you work in a team on any project on Development, Production, Supporting, in Three years 90% are new team mates. You even don't know that your colleague's today is his last day only at end-of-the-day.

[@Nico78Not]

Ah yes, Bioshock Infinite, the "best game of 2013" while being the worst Bioshock game.

[@evanbelisle8464]

I played through Bioshock like 6 times and Bioshock Infinite barely once.

[@e-man4155]

I gotto say I regularly go back and play Infinite, I just love the setting and set pieces of the world so much. Story is alright for the most part. But it feels larger than Bioshock 1&2 in a gameplay sense. Imo of course.

[@randywest4185]

Agreed

[@edemizi9464]

Still a good game tho ; but i agree its the less good bioshock .

[@vipset87]

I loved infinite

[@lutherheggs451]

Its not that uncommon that games shift in development and are commonly talked about....Off the top of my head, its known that RE0 was restarted after being announced and switched systems, RE2 was restarted 50% through its development, RE4 was restarted atleast 3 different times and had been shown off. Uncharted 3 had to move Henning off the project because it was a mess, she was then kicked form Uncharted 4 because they didn't like her ideas and the team was doing nothing. Its quite common, sometimes things don't work like you wanted them to, sometimes the project budget gets cut, sometimes hardware isn't capable of what the team wanted to do, sometimes platforms get switched. At one point DMC was a RE game until they decided that it wasn't anything like a RE game.

[@jesusblanco7657]

He literally noted that it happens all the time lol

[@dougallen5734]

System Shock 2 was one of the most terrifying games I have ever played

[@v2danman]

I remember the graphics and gameplay being good but the story was a bit up its own butt. Not a huge fan of the idea of multiverses because they usually end up being pretty bland.

[@evanrutledge-sz4yo]

Feels like they take the idea of a multiverse, a concept ripe with exploration of ideas, and just do the whole. “Another me is bad.” Like, I can see why, but there’s just so many more ideas to explore with that concept.

[@lukebrown3658]

The nemesis system is like wow!

[@paranoidplane9799]

I love Bioshock Infinite

[@WhatisReal11]

Bioshock Infinite is the best game ever made. Its the most complete and immersive environment, gameplay, acting, character dynamics, themes... nothing even comes close to what it achieved. If Judas can even do half of what infinite did, ill be thrilled.

[@ariesconner4565]

I know temp work is a thing but when a company wants someone with experience why doesn't the company tell you other companies you could get proper experience and training

[@shannonwilliams7249]

Yes, the singing dude is back!!

[@crozraven]

I very much disagree. Bioshock Infinite is actually the worse Bioshock or Immersive sims in the franchise imo. The best is Bioshock 1, second Bioshock 2. It's also the most linear btw... In which arguably anti thesis to what immersive sims level design supposed to be (most of the time). This is also why I think Prey is way way better than Bioshock Infinite & practically what Bioshock & Bioshock 2 sequel supposed to be.

[@toddgriffith9042]

Since Infinite my gamer tags have always been Booker 🖤

[@drakenfist]

I can't remember who it was. But I remember watching a video of a guy who was a level designer of Bioshock 1, and apparently that game came out as quick as it did because they had no script so this guy took it upon himself to pretty much write a rough draft of the game, utilizing all the ideas that Levine had put forward (this is when they narrowed down that it would be set in rapture) and Levine pretty much just touched up on that guys script and beefed it up. Levine is a really good ideas guy. But he struggles hard on putting those ideas together.

[@Sammo212]

I will be honest, I don't even remember this game being announced.

[@Hipnopotamussus]

There is a great interview with Kevin on Last Stand Media’s youtube channel that happened last year.

[@danielcalabrese5769]

Infinite is the weakest of the bioshock games and while the story has a lot of praise the gameplay felt like I was playing a normal shooter rather than a bioshock game and left alot to be desired in my opinion

[@gh6270]

Agreed. Infinite was not fun for me at all. Zero atmosphere.

[@crabbypatty10fefrefe]

I wish the game had been made today. I'm also not sure how I feel about him tying it to the original game.

[@Xornicus]

We back

[@BROTGAMINGOF]

I found your KZbin channel quite by accident, and honestly, I don't regret it. After a very long break, I am returning to gaming and I would like to expand my knowledge on this topic, thanks to you I can do it. Although English is not my first language, I come from Poland, I watch you with great interest.

[@bronzesausage]

Love the subject, love the channel, love the video! keep it up!

[@Sbeowulf98]

I'm thinking they might have left the trailer's story intentionally vague in case the story of the game changes during development.

[@ZeJJimBo]

So the future of Bioshock is....Bioshock in space?

[@jonasking9587]

You going to start talking about anything you have new information about?

[@notmethnx]

Infinite deserves more credit for it was attempting to do.... But yeah gets a little convuluted.... Let me replay it why was the spoopy lady ghost trying to kill me?!

[@jacobreeves3110]

Ken Levine did a really cool pax lecture that really resonated with me when I was younger. I respect him dearly and can’t wait for another game.

[@Loquacious_Jackson]

Nobody cares

[@jacobreeves3110]

@@Loquacious_Jackson your mom does.

[@Loquacious_Jackson]

@@jacobreeves3110 my mother is dead

[@armavir740]

why is bro just reading wikipedia

[@obigrumpywankenobi3204]

He also did the voice for the circus of value lol

[@callmepsycho3132]

I thought that was a sound they found online

[@Dietghostscp2107]

It has always got me that he's from Queens NY lmao.

[@valleandrewZ]

12 hour work days are extremely normal throught out the hole world but when it comes to game devs is an apocalipse....pathetic

[@harel_b3197]

Would you kindly make a Bioshock infinite critique

[@Coxy-b34]

To my knowledge Ken Levine has never made a game that isn't at least interesting and worth playing.

[@brandonanderson4128]

I mean I fuckin loved Infinite. But the best game of 2013? No way it tops The Last of Us. A story about BioShock infinite tho. For some reason there was this weird issue where no matter what I did it would not save. So I spent a good few weeks pulling all nighters trying to beat it in one sitting til I finally did.

[@davoje3215]

Love the mouthed music

[@bsaaxtyfoon143]

Ive been waiting so long for a new bioshock entry but i dont think it will ever happen tbh

[@callmepsycho3132]

Well they’re making BioShock 4 and a BioShock movie currently

[@johnpen269]

i get you cant play the real song but do you really have to be an asshole about it

[@JusticeInGaming_JIG]

Retro Futuristic Timeline?! 32:20 . I hope it is NOT even close to DeathLoop , because it was NOT for me. I call games who come out from development hell - A GONER. :) Fingers crossed for JUDAS, i LOVE not just like BUT LOVE all of BIOSHOCK games. Ken Levin should work with Hideo Kojima on some innovative project...probably they cant work together. Two crazies. :)

[@TheLetterJ-c8n]

To anyone who wants a bioshock like experience try out Prey.

[@Jinkypigs]

LOL. No

[@TheLetterJ-c8n]

@@JinkypigsWhy not?

[@completelytransparent6320]

oof. your bio infinite lore is wrong. kinda funny coming from a gaming news channel. levine didnt change his mind he was too ambitious and they had to gimp the game to run on 360's and ps3's