The Game That Would Change RPGs Forever: Moon Remix RPG Adventure

[@glennrugar9248]

I'm sure the mother 3 fans are loving that this got localized

[@smiith5]

I feel bad for all the old Mother fans who have to deal with the new whiney ones.

[@dr.velious5411]

I am at least.

[@mikebrushing1851]

they should suck it up and play this, it's way better than just a quirky JRPG

[@glennrugar9248]

@@mikebrushing1851 I've been so on the fence about this one. What metroidvanias have you played?

[@KOTEBANAROT]

I hate mother 3 fans so much its fucking unreal

[@royale6652]

19:31 Its a literal lore dump...

[@車食べたい]

Lovedelic died not because of low sales, but rather due to artistic desires. After creating UFO, that team left and founded their own company, and after L.O.L., a good chunk of the staff left again. The people left basically thought that they were not LoveDeLic anymore, and basically disbanded (and later formed Skip This is why they aren't listed as going bankrupt, but are classified as disbanded (although L.O.L. selling terribly didn't help

[@hemangchauhan2864]

twitter.com/TheBunkajin/status/1298753948443185154 This is a list of companies the original devs later worked in. Onion games is currently the most active right now, who currently published it.

[@randominternetuser5872]

9:42 , why does Japanese only games like to have depressing divorced characters? We already got starfy with Moe's father, and now this?

[@C00K13-Z_9]

*idk*

[@logans.7932]

I feel like I've seen the design of this game's player character on the monster art of a Yu-Gi-Oh card.

[@176463]

You have. I believe its called skelengel.

[@logans.7932]

@@176463 Not the one I'm thinking of but I see the resemblance.

[@alsergobuchdederut2301]

@@logans.7932 it looks like the normal monster "Genin"

[@Lucas-db2jq]

I've finished the game today, and aside from some complaints and gripes (I really think this game needed a run button) I honestly loved it. It is well deserving of its excellent translation and I'm a little sad I have never even heard about it until recently. I hope it gets more attention and more people get to experience and enjoy it, this game right here is the very definition of a hidden gem.

[@TheDandyLionsUK]

I played this on an emulator (I have bought the steam version also!) And being able to fast forward time was massively helpful... And it was still tedious lol But a very interesting and charming game that I really wanted to love more than I did

[@vustvaleo8068]

the premise of the game is super ahead of its time which is a bit sad that it didn't sell well, it is a hidden gem.

[@SECONDQUEST]

Wouldn't say battle network is underrated. It's a huge series that even got toys when I was a kid

[@connordarvall8482]

Some of the visual effects remind of Petscop. That just adds a whole new context to that webseries.

[@dr.velious5411]

Little late here, but the memory puzzle slows way down if you get there just as Robi plugs in to charge the battery, there's a clue somewhere about his CPU slowing down when his battery gets low.

[@dr.velious5411]

Aside note, I could practically hear the Captain Rainbow theme as soon as you showed the clip, I love that game so SO much.

[@ZeranZeran]

Okay even the font in the game logo "moon" looks like the Gummi Ship font! There has to be some crossover in the designs of both games, even the environments and the characters remind me of Kingdom hearts, and from a game all the way back in 1997! That's so cool to me. These concepts have been around so much longer than I thought. Excellent video. This is really cool, and now I really wanna try Moon Remix RPG

[@lrgogo1517]

The new animated entrance really impresses me!

[@monroerobbins7551]

I’m glad I’ve heard about Moon. I love RPG’s, and it’s so sweet to hear that such an old game is an anti-rpg that’s complex, focuses on positivity, has cute characters and design, a pretty neat plot, you can choose what songs play like in Animal Crossing, it’s so fantastic. I know this has been done more recently, but... I grew up with older games, like Atari, so seeing such an old game exploring a genre that wasn’t overly saturated with games yet is so fascinating and amazing. They already had such a solid grasp that they could turn against it, and I respect that so much.

[@twilighttoast01]

Man Moon looks cool, definitely considering picking it up after watching this

[@baddragonite]

On the end of the video: I LOVE Megaman Battle Network. Can't wait to see more videos on it! Hoping they nake a collection of then- preferably with online multiplayer.

[@tackwardsfongjump1800]

Another early under appreciated innovative anti rpg is Drakengard released in 2003. It was the first game that really went hard on the “you are a terrible person for doing this.” vibe that stuff like Spec Ops: The Line and Undertale popularized. And its conclusion gives off an aura of such dread, terror, and insanity that I’ve never seen replicated, or attempted in a game since.

[@trashbirdie]

Great video! I love how you went through the story and described every important event, I really enjoy watching concise storylines like that when I'm not planning to play the game myself

[@cloudkitsune17]

I'm glad you reviewed this game as it has been on my wishlist since 2019 when I spotted it on the Japanese eshop, but somehow missed its release date for the localization port. I thank you for reminding me to pick this game up!

[@ArlanKels]

A game that old having a day and night system... Ultima V and Castlevania 2 would like to have a word with you sir.

[@justwungo]

So glad these guys' work is finally being recognised as the incredible masterpieces that they are.

[@stuffedsomething1699]

24:36 I wish you the best of luck finding a copy of Battle Network OSS

[@jb0258]

Since we never got a western release, you can actually order a fan translated copy of the game. That's how I got mine and you can order the translated copy on eBay or Amazon for around $30 (cartridge only). From personal experience, I can honestly say the people that translated this game honestly did an outstanding job. You cannot tell at all that it was never released over here. When it comes to the actual translation, theres not a single grammar mistake when they converted the language to English. It's literally perfect from start to finish. BN: OSS is definitely the definitive way to experience the first game. Just make sure you have an original DS or DS Lite to play it on. As the game is still read as a Japanese cartridge, you HAVE to use one of the two DS' since they're not region locked

[@stuffedsomething1699]

Oh yeah, I've got a signed copy that's a gem in my DS collection. I'm glad that it's got some english language repro carts floating around now, it would have been a shame if that never happened.

[@simplythecat4068]

Insert "Protagonist actually was in the coma this whole time" theory

[@elcatrinc1996]

This is like the Ghost Stories English Dub, is a parody but also official

[@corvussio1454]

I see, so this is what inspired the game part of Petscop.

[@ledetbrothers9210]

Undertale and Moon are both anti-RPGs, but have different themes. Undertale’s theme is *morality vs. determination and curiosity* Moon’s theme is *misinterpretation and anti-escapism*

[@serrotnodnarB]

just beat moon last week and it sure was a ride. definitely recommend it to those looking for something completely different

[@TheDandyLionsUK]

Thanks for the plot synopsis, I caught about half of the monsters with no real plot progression and got bored, but cheers for allowing me to "finish" the game. I did enjoy it but having but the tedium built into the game eventually got to me.

[@cloud99337]

Got to say i haven't heard of moon but now that i have its on my list of games to play. On the megaman battle network topic its highly underrated and it wasn't received well on launch but those that loved it still play it to this day. anyways back to Samurai Jack which is also a fun game

[@goatbone]

I was lucky enough for my first attempt at the robot puzzle being on a day which is was very easy. I find it so funny when I see people complaining about how difficult it is haha.

[@pmdmakesmecri2]

The game's art style is like a mesh between Super Mario RPG, and the Tingle games, the clay/pixel art styles.

[@Nov-5062]

The Tingle games made by the same people, so it can't be a coincidence

[@Dappis]

I've been hyped to play Moon since i read the HCG101 article about it in like 2011

[@dacienfelice2993]

Moon inspires Undertale, and then Undertale inspires Moon's rerealease with western localization, what a beautiful relationship.

[@1BlueYoshi]

The main character looks like Plok

[@Dokurider]

This is supposed to be a PS1 title? My jaw was dropping the entire time.

[@DracXBelmont]

There are a lot of fantastic looking PS1 titles! Moon is no exception, but my personal favorite is Legend of Mana, which is the most beautiful game on the system bar none. So happy it's getting a remaster. Vagrant Story is also mindblowingly detailed and has some AMAZING lighting effects and character design.

[@darkychao]

the art-style and the concept reminds me a lot of Freshly-Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland... hmmm... yep, a bunch of staff that worked on this also worked on a few games that VANPOOL made including the two Tingle games. play Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland edit: oh, several of them also worked on some Skip Ltd. games like Chibi-Robo I guess since they went on to make some of my favorite games of all time I'm legally obligated to play this game, then.

[@Sara3346]

This feels very diffrent than reading about the game on wikipedia I admit though.

[@OneColdRepublican]

The claymation stuff reminds me of Hylics.

[@DoodleWill]

Also spoilers below but- I found out the way how to get LOVE from the old japanese man by myself and it felt so good.

[@comradeplatinumacd829]

For an upcoming Fandom Files, I'd like to see the Jojo community get brought up next

[@sagacious03]

Neat video! Thanks for uploading!

[@mack4691]

I would love to recommend a totally undiscovered yet brilliant game, and believe it or not it's a paid game on the Android playstore. Alien squatter has more personality and spirit than undertale and it's funnier too. If you have doubts about the developer he made a free game Void Pyramid which is worth checking out too.

[@leeeroyjenkins555]

2:08 Isnt that catch from Petscop?

[@iamlucidess]

Yeah that gave me some Petscop vibes. Possibly inspired?

[@leeeroyjenkins555]

@@iamlucidess Very likely

[@mikebrushing1851]

Honestly moon makes Earthbound seem like nothing much more interesting than a slightly-quirky JRPG to me.

[@philismenko]

This seems like a very big inspiration for petscop

[@feIon]

this game is gooooooood

[@RexcorJ]

Ahh, I was wondering why Moon suddenly blew up.

[@AkaiAzul]

Love, too, is an acronym....

[@internetvirus16]

I love Megaman Battle Network

[@Sashimi_luv]

Kinda wish you would have said it was on switch earlier! I might regret the spoilers but I'm glad I can play it :D

[@the_hanged_clown]

I remember playing an adult themed anti-rpg on newgrounds 😂

[@Hopper_Arts]

I wish it would come out on ps4, but oh well, i guess i'll have to avoid spoilers until i either get a switch (probably next year) or it comes to ps4 (probably never)

[@loszhor]

PreHipster Hipster game? Love it!

[@twitchywitchx]

is the title a bit off or its just me. RPGs are still the same lol

[@kingn00by41]

This inspired under tale

[@Jdudec367]

I feel like out of the rpgs that shaped the genre. earthbound feels like ti shaped the more...unorthodox side of it ya know?

[@Ventaio]

*cough* petscop used this *cough*

[@DoctorMario606]

Bruh I was thinking that this game sort of felt like the Tingle game

[@Ramsey276one]

I want to play Tingles sequel!

[@DoctorMario606]

@@Ramsey276one Tingle's Balloon Trip of Love?

[@Ramsey276one]

@@DoctorMario606 yeah, it has a sequel that hasn't left JAPAN!

[@DoctorMario606]

@@Ramsey276one there's actually a fan translation you can play! Search it up!

[@Ramsey276one]

@@DoctorMario606 I'll do that!

[@anthonymarziano9984]

hope you have fun playing pikmin3 Deluxe edition.

[@dudenamedzelda3179]

I need this.

[@maokai09]

yay megaman

[@marthedge]

ROMs are used to store game data, if you're familiar with emulation people download ROMs and use emulators to play the game. I presumed the symbolism was that rumROMs are the game's data while also being implemented in a way that helps the player see upcoming events/hints. It's why you see a bunch of events on them, or in the case of the moon's rumroms the routines of the NPCs you've met along the way.

[@ktvx.94]

Cancelling the moon? Wow this gama really was ahead of its time

[@idgaflolxx]

I love the whole idea of Moon. However, Mother/Earthbound anticipated first somehow the idea of what an anti RPG would look like, I mean, "enemies" don't die or get killed, but become tame and I would add more to this. Psychic powers (PSI/PK) are love too. As a hardcore Earthbound fan, don't offend me in that way please as you did generalizing at the start of this video. Nice review.

[@Jacob.R.]

22:09

[@epictom3423]

Epic

[@GamingDreamer]

Oh no, I saw it in a video and was thinking it coping Undertale idea, it older than undertali :( I feel bad now

[@SparkleWolf404]

It's also the game that inspired toby fox to even MAKE undertale, no moon meets more undertale.

[@troywright359]

the ending.....it's a bit too abstract imo. surely this concept could have been done better.

[@hoyabembe8858]

Hylics + Stardew Valley

[@officialcecilscott]

The irony was that it didn't change shit lol Fun game though! :D

[@mattwo7]

But what is it a remix of?

[@cartergamegeek]

The old PS1 game. They just used Remix as the sub title because it was never in English until now.

[@mattwo7]

@@cartergamegeek I was joking.

[@sparky9122]

@@mattwo7 BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRNNNNN

[@samhg3658]

yaaay

[@ununun9995]

This gives me Yume Nikki vibes for some reason.

[@drackestalentorgen166]

sounds a lot like the fake game from that one youtube series

[@SkyeBerryJam]

Petscop 2 looks great

[@SuperDwango]

The anti rpg thing is just marketing the game really is just an adventure game. It may be a unique it may be interesting and influential but at the end of the day it's just an adventure game it's not revolutionary.

[@ILikeGuns1992]

Wait, it ends with Main Character of game you played slaughtering everyone anyway? It kinda sucks.

[@a.dennis4835]

Having played it, I found "Moon" to be very frustrating with some good moments.

[@Mikescool444]

Nine… NINE…. [[NINETEEN_NINETY_SEVEN]]??? (My brain rot worsens)

[@culo9999]

If you're digging Battle Network, you should also check out One Step From Eden, especially if you have any interest in deckbuilders.

[@dio8451]

Hey hey, thanks for this. Probably wouldn't have heard about Moon if it wasn't for you, and I really like the sound of it.

[@darutucaruti9980]

moon*

[@roadrunnermarionette9509]

14:05 This puzzle is super easy if you meet the robot in the morning of Echo day when his battery is still low. It will be a lot slower than him having full battery.

[@TheRpgMonger]

Damn I wish I would have known that lol

[@dantethewanderer4989]

@@TheRpgMonger L

[@ZeranZeran]

Game's these days just don't have the cool little details like this anymore that's awesome.

[@ashblawesome6757]

Why does the "catch!" message remind me of petscop so much???

[@galiasvirtual4078]

Maybe Petscop was influenced by moon.

[@smiith5]

@@galiasvirtual4078 this

[@richarddakazo2878]

@@galiasvirtual4078 As soon as I saw that you gain "Love" in this game instead of Levels I figured Undertale probably drew direct inspiration from this too, though with a different spin.

[@hahrhthuhrh3542]

@@richarddakazo2878 the soul that flies through your screen ridiculously fast reminds me a lot of the "extremely agile water glass" from the defuse the bomb minigame

[@LezbeOswald]

same that message sent the fear of god through me when it first popped up lol

[@ThunderKnightSilver2]

I was wondering why I suddenly started seeing this game everywhere! I had never heard of it and just thought it was one of the many cult classic PSX JRPG's that I missed.

[@the_m6689]

you gotta play hylics if you like the clay style. its a great game!

[@ZeranZeran]

Also the Space Shooter Platypus!

[@YowLife]

I think i know why this game did poorly. The game's ending message is to not play video games. I can just imagine the player thinking "Fine if you didn't want me to play you in the first place, I'll just exchange you for a better game! Now what's this Legend of Dragoon?" Perhaps it would have been better if at Continue? "Yes" was the correct option, and it allowed you to play as the "hero" once again. Only this time, you are back at the end of the game and are able to head to the door and, using your superior strength, open it and bring light back to the world in atonement.

[@vyor8837]

Of course another game did the same thing and sold wonderfully. I hate Spec Ops for that reason.

[@KOTEBANAROT]

@@vyor8837 i feel like spec ops has more relevance and reason to exists these days, when army straight up invades gaming circles trying to recruit young men by comparing actual warfare to call of duty. Spec ops has a lot more worth when seen as a warning against buying into If War Game Fun Then War Itself Fun propaganda. I dont think it was the intention though and i didnt like it much at all.

[@vyor8837]

@@KOTEBANAROT they've been doing that for the past 30 years. Anyone that thinks actual war is like COD deserves to get shot.

[@sharrel704]

But that... ruins the whole point....

[@C00K13-Z_9]

@Leite W. Wow, I never thought of that. Very interesting!

[@cloudkitsune17]

I love Moon, and the team who made it. Ever since I saw Moon on the Japanese eshop, I was crossing my fingers it would get localized and so glad it did. I hope we can see Chulip brought to the Switch as well, as I have a soft spot for that specific game, too. Onion Games make some wonderful titles, and I am also very curious on what their next RPG is going to end up like.

[@OhNoBohNo]

Besides Petscop, another piece of media that I feel resembles Moon w/out its creators saying they were influenced by it, is Wandersong, in which you play a Bard who uses his kindness and music to try and save the world from destruction as a hero goes around killing the gods of that Universe. There's so much about trying to help communities and people, and the hatred and love in all that, the inevitability of tragedy, and the hope that continues anyway, that Moon reminds me of. Moon and Undertale really helped lay some of the foundations for more varied non-fighting adventure games to bloom and thrive.

[@mossy229]

I love hearing the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon music, and being able to recognize it too XD

[@KeyThrast]

YEEESSS!!! Battle Network Battle Network Battle Network Battle Network!!! 🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@CaptainBasculin]

Looks interesting, will give it a shot.

[@needsleep.kinoco]

first knew about it when browsing through a jpn LPer's playlist ages ago. while i couldn't understand shit, the gameplay was easy to understand enough and i was really mesmerized by its unique storytelling and style for a game made in the 90s. being a long time fan of the mother series and liking weird out of the box/trope defying kind of games like it, this was right up my alley. but there was barely anything about it on eng net back then. it was so obscure i only found like 2 or 3 sites mentioning it.Never thought i'd see the day this long forgotten treasure get a revival with an actual official english translation and the proper recognition it really deserves.

[@Megamean09]

I'll tell you why you hadn't come across Battle Network until now: the painful-to-navigate areas with no map, random encounters in a game without an experience system, and to even RUN from the usually-useless encounters, you need to waste space in your chip deck by adding (and hoping you draw) a Run chip.

[@Christian-gr3gu]

Please don't try to give random kids your love in real life, thank you

[@yaqoubalshatti205]

I feel like a sucker for choosing continue, realizing (mistakenly) that I have hit the bad ending, then rage quitting all while vowing never to play the game again. I was at level 29.

[@ravioliguy4252]

Really loved this video!! I'll probably try out later, also the BN mention at the end made me pog. You'll love BN3.

[@Bmaster4114]

I know this was 3 years ago, recently watched a playthrough of the game, in the case of the armor the hero gets in the tavern, I believe that wasn't the armor mentioned later in the game. The Hero is more or less seeing the world in the eyes of an RPJ, normal animals are enemies, Normal clothes are items they can get. In the RPG part in the intro, the Hero dons the armor he got at the in when the Rainbow is activated. In the actual game, after you activate the rainbow, the Hero puts on Woman's underwear..... The "armor" he got from the dresser... was not armor... it was female underwear. The armor he is in from start to finish, is the cursed armor that is making him see the world around him as the RPG. The logic of why would a powerful armor be in the tavern owner's dresser is silly and the devs knew this, so they show that it wasn't actually armor and make him oddly wear it over his normal armor.

[@DoodleWill]

So Rayman, Plok! and _oh wait I can't make this joke since the character doesn't have an actual name_

[@ShyGuyXXL]

There's actually a trick to the Robot simon says minigame: The lower his batteries are, the slower the minigame will be. If you catch him right as he starts charging, it will be really easy. I thought that was a really clever way to reward careful time planning. ...or you could just get lucky and stumble upon him at the right time.

[@SyddlesFuzz]

I wonder if this offered inspiration for Hylics and Petscop.

[@Ramsey276one]

Just saw reviews of Hylics 1 and 2 yesterday!

[@MultiCool55]

I thought of petscop the second the "Catch!" message came up.

[@BYERE]

An interesting video on an equally interesting game. I'll have to look at trying it at some point. Now, Megaman Battle Network... THERE'S a series I love! I really must play through them all again. It's been far too long since I last did so.