The Gen Z generation has been educated 'to have resentment and a sense of denial', says Frank Luntz

Frank Luntz, FIL Inc. pollster and political strategist, joins 'Squawk Box' to discuss his focus group results with Gen Z voters, their view on capitalism vs. socialism, equality vs. meritocracy, their view on democracy, and more.

[@corey5109]

We have socialism for the rich, bail outs when they make bad bets, and austerity for the poor.

[@ThomasShelby-xz2fk]

When Gen Z is graduating college making 55k and the typical house is half a million dollars, yeah I think there will be some resentment.

[@HellSpawn86]

That actually is a problem in perspective. Most of human history has been suffering and leading difficult lives. Humans have existed 100,000 years, mostly hunting and gathering. Mostly doing agriculture for 10,000 years. Industrial revolution about 200 years ago, internet in mass 30 year ago, smart phones in mass 15 years ago. People today have access to more information than the most powerful people in the 90s. The period people think back to was the 60s which was short lived and they were small houses, small rooms, small garages because people didn’t have the same amount of stuff as today. No AC, no insulation, no fridge, no stove, microwaves were expensive, 1 car, 2-3 bedrooms for families the size of 7-8. Americans today have much more access to quality of life than previous generations. We also living much better than just about most human beings on the planet. Life is hard and always been hard. Sometimes we have to count our blessings.

[@mikolowiskamikolowiska4993]

Lots of chastise houses but all don't want to live within your means. Entitlement. You'll learn however when you adopt socialism and have to stand in bread lines

[@psnisy1234]

55k or less

[@ThomasShelby-xz2fk]

@@mikolowiskamikolowiska4993 I don’t think socialism is the answer. I think the government needs to stop creating multi trillion dollar deficits every year. Not only that, I don’t think billionaires should be paying 20% long term capital gains tax when they sell stock. Meanwhile electricians, teachers, police officers, etc are paying 22-35% on most of their wages

[@chirayudesai793]

@@HellSpawn86I’m trying to pay my bills not thinking about how humans have suffered 100,000 years ago ffs how can you be so delusional

[@jonmeador8637]

He’s speaking out of both sides of his mouth. Capitalism is not working for these kids, he says. Then he says they’re being taught that it’s not working for the kids. Capitalism has taught them that it doesn’t work for these kids. The wealth gap needs to be closed, and we should prevent companies from buying favorable government treatment.

[@jarred110]

Yea lobbying the govn is bad, but it’s not just corporations it’s also ngos and non-profits and other governments. Stop subsidizing! The kids are being taught socialism because they’re not being taught free market/supply side economics why it’s moral. Because socialism appeals to the uneducated and gullible, if they don’t have any prior information which contradicts what the socialists are telling them, they drink the snake oil. Hayek, Friedman and Sowell need to be mandatory reading in schools, along with a nationwide school voucher program

[@ot23234]

The problem is voting has been subverted multiple ways, so there is no way for us to make the government stop the government from selling out. So the gov will continue to not rein in the gov...

[@dillonberry3469]

He is definitely drawing the conclusions that he just already wants to draw. He says young people are critical about capitalism and in the next breath says we want to go back to Reaganomics😂

[@xman48205]

​@dillonberry3469 yeah, he completely lost saying that. Gen Z preferring socialism vs capitalism does not in any mean young people are asking for Reaganomics. 🤔🤷🏾‍♂️

[@HRHDMKYT]

@@dillonberry3469Yeah, and Reaganomics was the biggest lie yet. Wealth doesn’t “trickle down”. Those wealthy get more greedy every minute, they keep the money all for themselves, and believe they’re entitled to even more entitlements than they already have. All of this regardless of who has to deliver these entitlements and how little these wealthy are willing to pay employees for the wealthy’s easy life.

[@illuvatar5923]

They have "resentment" because they are not in denial about the failed state they live in. Denial is what got us here.

[@Robert-hy3vv]

Failed state lol? America has the pne of the highest gdp per capita in the world and the countries it competes with have less population than cities in america. What failed state are you talking about?

[@raydosson2025]

@@Robert-hy3vv I'd very much like to hear your thoughts on Scott Galloway's latest Ted talk.

[@opaca512]

It’s a generation who has watched those who do right get the shaft, and those who cheat and bully get the goods.

[@SmartestDumbGuy]

That's such broad statements. What are examples?

[@silvertone1]

I feel gen-z's problem lies in they've watched too many online losers complain rather than live their own experience so they think everything and everybody is the same. There are no exceptions or subtleties in their thinking. All hyperbole based on fear. Its basically a very conservative thinking generation even if they are more liberal politically.

[@Optim40]

They talk like that but theyre the next Boomers. Gen Z is extremely egotistical.

[@b.pack3]

@@Optim40100% they are image obsessed and they have a general lack of empathy.

[@robertlee9679]

damn even as a millennial we see the psychos get rewarded where the people who live right get shafted. i feel bad for gen z

[@free-qe6wx]

Literally the last thing Gen Z wants is for us to go back to Reaganomics. It almost cannot be more polar opposite.

[@PelosiStockPortfolio]

When did we stop Reaganomics? We are still cutting taxes on the top and expecting it to trickle down

[@free-qe6wx]

@@PelosiStockPortfolio Reagan's policies led to the lowest adjusted for inflation wages since the Great Depression for most of the 1980's and 1990's, he deregulated markets which led to the rich getting far richer while everyone else went absolutely nowhere, and he deregulated corporate America which led to "Greed is Good," the death of the pensions, the death of the unions, and the "Fleecing of America." It is very possible that no other president in history did more to destroy the middle class American Dream than Reagan. He single handedly started and perpetuated the unraveling era (3rd turning), which ultimately climaxed and ended with the GFC (the start of the crisis era, 4th turning). Does it sound like Gen Z wants those things?

[@severianxi6990]

Reaganomics cost me money. LoL

[@rjbernard72]

​@PelosiStockPortfolio the top 50% wage earners pay 97.7% of taxes. You want them to pay more?

[@chriscaventer6031]

@@rjbernard72 no, we want the top 5% to pay significantly higher share of that 97.7% also, you lie

[@williesullivan3985]

Frank Luntz has no idea what these young people are even saying. The fact that he claims they want Reaganomics shows he is either completely unqualified for his job or is intentionally trying to misrepresent an ideology that is diametrically opposed to his.

[@stellercorpse]

He wishes that's what they meant

[@Mvdb6381]

The latter, this is corporate propaganda

[@severianxi6990]

i agree.

[@willtwain1383]

How did he interpret them into believing in hardcore trickle-down? I did not hear that a bit.

[@Openminder321]

The point about an even playing field was good, but in general yes gen Z has some to learn. Many don't hate the idea of capitalism as it was intended but rather the corporatist cancer it has become.

[@andreasmueller8353]

The illusion that the US has a functioning democracy is ridiculous when anyone can pump 100 mio of dollars into candidates while only two parties viably exist.

[@goodmushroom]

Which country has a functioning democracy?

[@sergiorivas]

You're not wrong.

[@sojournerfornow]

Did they teach you "representative democracy" in school?

[@sebastiencarre2416]

​@@goodmushroom Switzerland

[@johnfurr6060]

psst: The United States of American is a Constitutional Republic. It's not a Democracy. Never has been and never will be.

[@flobba123]

i think Gen Z knows they are playing a game thats rigged against them

[@superoldgamesaturday3277]

They're too stupid to know that.

[@zanzamanzaanza5981]

Gen Z here. I've got to say to that one co-host, the education system is NOT the problem here, in my experience it's generally capitalist leaning outside of some college campuses where it's mostly just students that're left-wing activists anyways. I have no clue why anyone says otherwise. The real issue is a combination of systemic problems (which Frank Luntz covers OK) that keep things from working well for everyone in a stable, sustainable way & radicalization on social media (which is dominated by a vocal minority that constantly posts about everything in the most dramatic, hyperbolic terms), where people are constantly exposed to negative information about anything & everything. Inevitably, that'll warp your worldview in one direction or the other. For a lot of young people, it's Alt-Left narratives that are the most compelling because of the way they address feelings of exclusion & mistreatment by "elites" that, at least seemingly, hold onto power for decades & engage in unethical stuff with little accountability. Gen Z is the most focused on powerful, wealthy people misusing their power to limit competition, fend off changes of power/ownership, mistreating workers & consumers, abusing new technologies & overusing natural resources that we rely on & have to inherit.

[@Traisas]

This is a good take, though I think you should take the quotes off the word 'elites' and also your last paragraph is at odds with your first statement about education. One of the two speakers here made the very important point that in history, every time socialism and communism has been tried it has led to the subjugation and deaths of 10s of millions of people. I highly recommend watching the recent speech at Davos from the new Argentinian president. He references some truly incredible statistics.

[@theplaintiff5450]

Lol, the only reason alt-left narratives appeal to our generation is that most of gen Z is up to their eyeballs in debt and wants someone else to pay for it. They feel they can justify it by spouting some pseudo intellectual phrase they heard from a video or a professor. So many gen Z wasted 4 years and $150,000 for a useless like an English degree. $150k for how to read books -and they want someone else to pay for it, because the only job they could land with it pays 35k a year. You don’t hear gen Zs who studied worthwhile subjects griping about this. It’s not “the system isn’t working”, it’s that thousands of Gen Z are lazy and entitled morons who chose useless degrees that aren’t worth anything.

[@ChicagoJ351]

That sounds like a really good take on what’s happening. I think the older generations see them as misinformed and having simplistic views of the world. But, genz is going to be the older generation pretty soon. So, we will see what happens. I’m genx and it wasn’t that long ago we were university students talking about the issues of the day. But, we had a very small voice back then.

[@Traisas]

@@ChicagoJ351 It's amazing how views and opinions change over time. My 25 year old self would lash out at me in anger for my feelings and opinions today. Similarly, I look back at my younger self as well-meaning but catastrophically inexperienced and misinformed. Meanwhile, at least my younger self was educated through books, and reports from reliable institutions. These days, it seems like there is a heavy reliance on the internet for all of information, education, communication and entertainment, and unfortunately most people vastly under-estimate the effectiveness and relentlessness of those who are using it, explicitly, to confuse, corrupt, distract and destroy.

[@kreek22]

@@Traisas We Gen Xers did not have reliable institutions 20-30 years ago. Our institutions were explaining how de-industrialization benefited us (through so-called comparative advantage). Most of them happily cheerled us into an unjustified war in 03'. Every last one of them favored high immigration rates to benefit the elites with cheap labor. Almost all favored continued racist policies against white Americans in gov't, education, the corporate world. Most of these problems are now worse, but let's not whitewash the past.

[@thrillme7]

California Gen X here - 52yrs old - I have Gen Z kids graduating college this yr and in 2027. I can tell you their generation is screwed for home ownership if they want any chance to live in a coastal or desirable Blue city like Denver/San Diego/San Luis Obispo area... The housing costs are out of control, much worse than the peak of the housing bubble in 2008! I bought our first house 45 mins north of G.G. Bridge in Sonoma County and paid $325K -11/99. It was a stretch making only $40K at the time and that house is now $900K. Now a starting salary for non-engineer is 50-70K in CA. That salary to home price ratio is broken! This is why Gen Z should be furious... The American Dream is a distant reality if they want the life there parents had. For reference my parents paid $30K for their house in the Bay Area in 1971 and my father was an attorney making $35K at the time and it was a stretch for them I heard. That same $30K 1971 house will be sold this summer for $1.9 million with NO updates. GenZ will be forced to live in flyover states if they want any resemblance to quality of family life and not be house poor tied to a montlhy mortgage of $5K+

[@NJGuy1973]

"Forced to live in flyover states" Who could endure such a fate? How will they find the strength to keep living? Edit: thing about coastal areas, they can only expand in one direction, thus putting a cap on the supply of housing, while island areas can expand 360 degrees. And WFH is making location irrelevant.

[@YOU-GET-WHAT-YOU-HAVE]

If house become affordable, no one will say anything.

[@todorkolev7565]

if you think building houses is easy - do it and stop moaning about not getting your free house from the government

[@user-nx6tr9je6v]

​@@todorkolev7565We are not allowed to build due to boomer NIMBYs trying to protect their own property values by making regulations that make it impossible to build

[@miaa7097]

Boomers wouldn't let that happen

[@elizabethr4107]

💯

[@kreek22]

It's cheap in Guatemala...and Mexico and Colombia. Hey, if housing is so expensive, why do so many millions from places with cheap houses insist on invading "unaffordable" America? Gen Z is getting replaced by desperate third worlders. Good luck kiddies.

[@brettdavidson3866]

Gen Z Has Resentment because Corporations have hurt younger people

[@MrZaf12]

Hating capitalism yet buying stupid cheap merch like cat ears headphones. Gen Z are mostly ignorant.

[@marshall3278]

Younger people are seen as sources from which profit can be extracted, instead of investments for our future

[@codyrse]

​@@MrZaf12 Funny you bring up the word ignorance and in the previous sentence completely ignore (have ignorance to) the fact that they were born into a capitalist system (something they have no control over except protest/political discourse). Nobody expects you to notice your own hypocrisy though so carry on with your thoughtless existence.

[@teru797]

its ok because they put out rainbow flags one month a year

[@user-zu5do6ri6r]

The US is not capitalist. It hasn't been for a long time. Taxpayers money is used to keep a few large corporations in power. Several of which would not exist anymore if it wasn't for the bail out from the American people. We aren't capitalist, bit we aren't socialist either.

[@amyhayes91]

In schools we teach it all. The economy and politics teach them that what we are doing isn’t working. Schools don’t have to do anything. The hosts are actively misinterpreting the interviewees.

[@Sneedstein]

Lmao, nobody 19-24 is thinking about their tax rate or regulations

[@jodame3925]

If you say so bro aka the so called "get anything quick generation"

[@user-ho1pj8vm8l]

That's because they have no income or businesses because at this point capitalism is about inheriting wealth and not meritocracy, if it ever was.

[@dalegreer3095]

They are though. They're looking at other countries that have high tax rates but happy citizens. They're looking at the destruction that happens in the absence of regulations. They are openly considering socialism in a way few young Americans did in the past because they want stability, sustainability, community. They don't want libertarianism, they don't want hyperindividualism, they don't want oligarchy with more and more wealth concentrated at the top.

[@bkldaskdfsjjdsa]

Some are, there is a small proportion t

[@Kbandz313]

The 22-24 yr olds might be

[@InaEsin]

CORPORATISM is the problem. Not Capitalism.

[@ywtcc]

After the English Civil war there was the enclosures. To me, this was the start of Capitalism. The enclosures of the land, and the ability to find a market price, based on the productivity of the land. This was what the property system of the USA was based on. There's problems with governments voting their property prices to infinity, and has been since these initial experiments. There should be incentive to care for the land, but on the other hand we should recognize that factors such as low wages or limited borrowing capacity can and should decrease property values. There's also rights issues for people that don't own property. What's the point of having rights if you're always on someone else's private property? The American system is beginning to look antiquated. The moderating forces of democracy and socialism appear to have had not enough effect. It's a system that's had repeated dramatic change in the past to deal with exactly these forces. I think the ideological battle is mostly a distraction from looking too closely at how this economy actually works, and for who.

[@latonya2190]

Unfortunately they are now one and the same!

[@whatgoesaroundcomesaround920]

Corporatism and acute inequality are the logical outgrowth of capitalism under any form of government, because greed corrupts and the wealthy and powerful feed that greed.

[@brentmorrison3392]

Considering they get the majority of their information from TikTok and not actual research, they are exposed to lots of misinformation.

[@RiggsBF]

Corporatism is caused by capitalism.

[@stevemelton4388]

Reagonomics took pensions away for 401k’s. I don’t think the young people want to go that direction

[@acornsucks2111]

LOL

[@keyisersoze]

Reagan runs a deficit of 186% of the US GDP. To match Reagan's deficit, Biden would have to run a deficit of 38.6 trillion dollars in 8 years.

[@skwira000]

Safe Harbor IRAs is the biggest problem with the 401Ks.

[@godfathaofyo]

Government didn't take away pensions. Private companies did.

[@greggf6831]

Its not the responsibility of businesses to manage and provide you retirement. Its a benefit but not their responsibility

[@P2Feener305]

This tv host doesn’t like what this guy has to say that’s why he keeps cutting him off every time he’s about to make a point.

[@youtuby014]

The host didn’t believe luntz got those opinions from His focus group, luntz is personally pushing that propaganda 😊

[@GuitarZombie]

@@youtuby014 Luntz job is to analyze the answers and give opinions

[@whatgoesaroundcomesaround920]

Luntz doesn't have to disagree with the focus group in order to evaluate what they are saying!

[@chillxxx241]

The guest seems completely disconnected from what the kids were saying, but we only saw a s”snapshot”.

[@Lwellj45]

Where is the capitalism? All I see is bailouts, artifiical interest rates, gov't picking winners/losers, and globalism.

[@chetsenior7253]

Yeah, Capitalism.

[@jasonkoroma4323]

@@chetsenior7253 There nothing capitalistic about. Stop trying to conflate political idiocy with basic economics.

[@silvertone1]

If you sit online all day of course all you'll see is corporations..fortune 500..FANG...but try the real world in a big city you'll quickly discover thousands of private enterprises still thriving. Not everyone is a corporate CEO or corporate slave ya know.

[@txbre8758]

I think for me, it was about seeing my poor dad go through hell. My mom died, even with life insurance, we had to use that to pay off the cancer bills. He was saddled with her student loan. All of us were under age 10. When I was 10 and I sat in my bed, processing the news, I took a deep breath and said “this is the day my childhood dies”. And it was so true. I developed health issues but couldn’t pay for it and either could my dad, so I’m disabled for life now

[@txbre8758]

I work in IT but there’s not a day that goes by when I don’t think about how traumatic my childhood was and how my dad won’t be able to retire

[@meowismeify]

Wow. Sorry about what you went through. The fact that the US just sent 95 billion dollars of our tax payer money to Taiwan, Israel, and Ukraine instead of helping out their own citizens is disgusting.

[@silvertone1]

@@meowismeify No its not. Your repuiblicans vote everything down, they pass foreign aid. But half of you keep voting for them.

[@metagaminguniversemgu2240]

Its not Capitalism vs Socialism, its that wages are not keeping up with inflation. Labor needs to be paid more so that the middle class can continue to afford the American Dream.

[@travishite3950]

The propaganda is no longer working.

[@tuckerbugeater]

lol

[@Ellieempress]

Absolutely.

[@scourge6563]

"The propaganda is mo longer working." Oh? Look again at how many diehard MAGATs there are in the country and tell me the propaganda isn't working.

[@kreek22]

There is no "the propaganda." The regime propaganda machine is multi-vocal, it plays to different audiences simultaneously, it's smarter than 95% of the population and therefore easily bamboozles them, but also succeeds against most of the top 5% because those people are mostly very busy professionals who don't have the time to engage in endless intellectual battle with the regime's thought control apparatus.

[@William1866]

CNBC and FOX get more like each other every day.

[@teebone2157]

they are Pro Corporate they have no choice

[@chiquita683]

You mean they are the only ones promoting sanity?

[@William1866]

@@chiquita683 LOL What comedy club are you appearing at this week?

[@parkerpkthn]

You mean calling BS on corporate America? Why would CNBC go out of their way to do that? LOL

[@korayven9255]

@@chiquita683 Ah yes, the pro-insurrectionist tv network that has been successfully sued for lying on behalf of a criminal that literally cannot shut up about the crimes he commits while publicly claiming he somehow has the 'right' to commit any and all crimes with impunity is "promoting sanity." You know sanity like _scientologists_ know sanity, i.e. not at all but that won't stop you from insisting otherwise.

[@Maverick7642]

As an enthusiast, I often wonder how top level investors are able to become millionaires off investing. I’ve over $140,000 equity from a home sale, is it a good time to buy into stocks or do I wait for another opportunity?

[@Hudson367]

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[@Christian67337]

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[@Annie56427]

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[@Christian67337]

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[@Annie56427]

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[@jbailey3390]

The central nexus that nearly all problems in our society come back is money in politics. You wonder why Americans have so many chronic illnesses? Big food and drug companies lobbying and donating to politicians to not regulate food and drugs properly via the FDA. You wonder why there is a tech oligarchy of 5-6 companies that create all of our technology and make up all of the gains in the S&P500? Big tech companies lobbying and donating to politicians to create favorable laws and regulations for them, and to not trust bust them. So many problems come down to this, but most people don’t see it.

[@jonathanchang1574]

Did he try to prescribe Reaganomics? Reagan's trickle down economics, having everyone work 2 jobs, moving businesses overseas, etc., is how we got into this mess in the first place.

[@darrinm486]

He can't say the truth. Reaganomics is in his job description and is blood.

[@acornsucks2111]

Its preferable to what we have now. Car prices go up 50% in one year and not coming back down.

[@jonathanchang1574]

@@acornsucks2111 Yeah and Reagan's policy started this.

[@jonnyfendi2003]

He hasn’t been president since the damn 80s. You had plenty of time to fix whatever mess he made with countless presidents after. The Biden administration says the economy is booming for everyone. Are u saying your president is lying??

[@kreek22]

Reagan's policies were strategically sensible at the time. Clinton ought to have revised them, but he was too corrupt to even try. Obviously, Bush was also too corrupt. Obama simply hates America and was happy to continue the sellout. Trump made the first effort to halt the de-industrialization of America--and he was attacked by the entire ruling class for cutting in on their massive corrupt conspiracy against the people.

[@DDCrp]

This country has made it clear that Ai and immigrants are preferable to filling roles than training up US

[@butchgriggs6325]

Let's go back to Pre-Reagan era tax codes

[@diegomagellan]

Agreed

[@johnwebb2442]

Right.

[@JULYXXIV]

Let’s see…40 years ago, one person working 40 hours per week can raise a family, purchase a house, and save for retirement. 20 years ago, if you were working full time at a minimum wage job, you could still afford a two bedroom apartment in most of North America. Today, the kid could land a job making $50K and will STILL need a roommate just to stay above water. I don’t blame them. Not at all.

[@GML_123.]

A truck driver made the news recently, he was a recent graduate. He decided to drive trucks and live in his truck for two years and he calculated he would have enough to purchase a home and do all the things. There are ways but sacrifices definitely part of it.

[@DeOmnibusDubitandum76]

The problem with our political system is the hijacking of the voters' role by corporate entities and large donors. There is very little left of voter mandate when special interests get to fund career politicians in Washington.

[@MauricioGonzalezFilms]

Hold corporations accountable and get rid of Citizens United ruling. Get money out of politics. That undermines our trust.

[@jonnyfendi2003]

Can we hold you g people to be accountable for their damn student loans?? This goes both ways

[@kreek22]

Money is a form of speech.

[@beatmanbeatman498]

Most of you have papa's money. That's not merritt

[@InaEsin]

So you think your father should work his bawlz off for someone else's kids...? You'd be fine going to work and the entire paycheck go to the neighbor's kid? Are you high?

[@beatmanbeatman498]

@@InaEsin you have poor reading compression

[@beatmanbeatman498]

@InaEsin I said they didn't earn it due to hard work. That is a fact that doesn't need a response.

[@beatmanbeatman498]

@InaEsin I'd rather that money go to aid Israel instead of my money going to a foreign government.

[@blackout07blue]

@@beatmanbeatman498 don’t be jealous of their parents.

[@WhatifAltHist]

The thesis that’s it’s more about against corruption than socialism vs capitalism is totally true among Gen Z. I say this as a Gen Z

[@Lilblaisy23]

How did people miss your comment? Love your videos dude always waiting for the next one

[@user-yx6ox7us9v]

False dichotomy. It's not about "socialism vs. capitalism", it's about the old social democratic system we used to have that birthed a fairer, more accountable form of capitalism vs. whatever hyper-late-stage overly financialized corporatocracy that we have today. Capitalism isn't just a static thing. It comes in different forms. It morphs over time. We're not asking for Soviet socialism. We're simply saying that today's system isn't sustainable. It's cancer, and those at the top are too comfortable to ever be able to willfully acknowledge that. They've corrupted the vestiges and organs of the system that were built to keep this sort of runaway capitalism in check. That's a dysfunction of the organism, of the body politic

[@michaelrogers4834]

There really is such a thing as *too much* wealth concentration, *too much* vertical integration, *too much* top-down, corporate control, and insufficiently broadly distributed access to resources to provide the reasonable equity in opportunity necessary to alow for both a just system, and, also, a sufficiently dynamic climate for the growth and innovation needed to compete in the world economy.

[@S888A-KenObi]

It's not necessarily capitalism but the current paradigm of mutant capitalism that has taken hold in society. And by extension all of the inequities it creates and perpetuates. We are already in a Corporatocracy and are lying to ourselves if we think otherwise. The will of the citizens are being undermined every single day by special interest groups, namely corporate interests and that of the hyper-wealthy. I'm a millennial and Gen Z saw what happened to us collectively. We bought in and the system sold us out. They are keenly aware of this and don't want to be exploited like we were.

[@BnMProductions11]

You can't stop that from happening without heavy regulation and social redistribution of wealth. Otherwise, capitalism will always end like this, someone will always win, buy all the other guys, fix the prices and buy the politicians. There's no other end point without more social intervention.

[@O-PAC]

@@BnMProductions11yeah but that also happens with socialism and communism too. Greed is a HUMAN condition, not a political or economic system. You change the political/economic system and you will still have the same issues. The difference now, is the greed is controlled by people in the government, who now control the military, so it’s even harder to make changes because they tend to use the military against people who disagree with them. Which thus leads to atrocities. As the saying goes, “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.” I don’t think we will ever create a perfect system unfortunately. All of them have wronged humanity in some form or fashion. Each system attracts those who wish to control others. Millions of humans have been murdered to advance far left and far right political systems (Mao’s China, Stalin’s Russia, Hitler’s Germany are three biggest ones that come to mind) in which the government tries to control the means of production as well as redistribution of wealth. Everyone knows Hitler killed millions of people, but so did Mao Zedong and Josef Stalin, who were, from a political system standpoint, opposite in ideology than Hitler. So it really doesn’t matter what the system is, someone will use it to exploit others. The biggest thing is everyone wants the opportunity to succeed, the disagreement comes in how to do it. Regulation is necessary but over regulation then becomes the oppressor as well. So you have to find the right balance of refereeing the field without preventing people from succeeding. Ethical capitalism is I think what could accomplish this. It’s a complicated issue that I don’t think we can come up with a simple solution for.

[@BnMProductions11]

@@O-PAC That's why I wasn't advocating for socialism or communism. Why are right wingers incapable of understanding that things aren't black and white? The best solution incorporates aspects of both. But right now we are too far to the right. The government has next to no power and these private enterprises have too much.

[@user-zu5do6ri6r]

Yes. Our founding fathers warned us that the board will need to be reset every so often. Or else we would end up where we currently are.

[@dywang32]

Why should we support corporations who try to squeeze every single cent from our pockets? One glaring example is how everything is trying to move to a subscription model. That KZbin for example, they flood the platform for ads then sell an ad free model. Break their own product so you have to pay to keep it operational.

[@DG-hw8it]

I guess you don't produce goods to advertise for...🥰🍀

[@elizabethr4107]

Then don't support those corporations 😏

[@antoniodelao5716]

Frank's characterization that students are taught to resent capitalism is wrong. Well, at least a blanket statement like that because that is not true. In my experience, professors do try and walk a middle line to encourage debate among students. I went to school for Finance. At no point were we taught to hate capitalism. Younger generations are rejecting the values of capitalism because time and time again their generation is getting screwed by all of the older generations in power. The fact of the matter is that income inequality is getting worse, the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. It is also disingenuous to bring up extremes like Socialism leads to communism. That isn't necessarily the case. Even now, the US isn't a strict laissez faire capitalist community, there are social aspects of America. I think what younger generations want is to have a fighting chance to prosper and not live in a society that only rewards the uber rich.

[@dmaz123]

exactly

[@DG-hw8it]

You got indoctrinated to the left by your parents or in highschool...🤔

[@superoldgamesaturday3277]

Good job proving Luntz's point.

[@vietimports]

wait until he learns that gen-z HATE reagan and reaganomics LMAO

[@AmeriGlobal]

It's not just Gen Z. I'm Gen X and lived through Reaganomics.

[@phoenixr6811]

Gen Z knows BS when they see it 🙃good for them 😊

[@elizabethr4107]

🤣

[@superoldgamesaturday3277]

They also think the Holocaust was a good thing, so that kind of invalidates any other view they have.

[@megmoore335]

😅 I believe he is describing entitlement.... "The old owner thinks he can take the team back now that it's doing well". That is one of the biggest problems with our society! The older ones milk something for as long as possible, then the younger generations come and re-imagine or re-boot, it becomes successful, and then here comes the pompous @$$ thinking it's still his. That generation is making their way on the backs of the younger generations... and we're all supposed to respect their place and know ours😡 Also, most of that generation were almost or already adults during the civil rights movements.... They were educated to believe in a hierarchy where they were at the top, and the younger generations are not buying into it anymore.

[@megmoore335]

Hearing these older white men bemoan where Gen Z is coming from... Gen Z is living the fact that the ladder has been pulled up behind those who had opportunity. The school of life is educating them (not the public schools or liberal colleges, sorry), every day when their hearts are longing for a chance to have the opportunity to "work more and get more". But working more hours for a corporation or company that pays as little as possible to the employees while requiring college degrees and also not contributing to society by way of taxes is not the "opportunity" Gen Z should be grateful for. The inequality is growing so much, there isn't really much opportunity unless you get lucky or come from money.

[@jayem8981]

Old white men? You don’t solve racism with more racism. Disgraceful.

[@greggf6831]

The ladder has been pulled from you? Gen Z doesn't understand how capitalism works, hence why many get useless college degrees and then expect to be hired in as CEO. Your teachers and educational system, who taught you what to think and how to be an activist, has failed you. Learn and develop skills thats worth paying for and you'll do just fine. Oh and fight the tax system thats taking 40% of your income every pay check! how does one get ahead when the government is in your pocket leaving little for you. Maybe then you'll get ahead!

[@greggf6831]

Btw it not ok to bring up race, "older white men"? Im assuming you're ok with living in a country founded and created by white men. All the founding fathers were older white men, don't forget that and you are benefiting from their work. Guess what youtube was founded and created by white men too, right?

[@anddudewaslike]

@@greggf6831the country was built on the backs of black and brown people; the white men you speak of just exploited them and took the credit.

[@Aaron_R]

Going to disagree - everyone in America has the opportunity to succeed and get a high paying job, and move up. It's the easiest country on this planet... Granted it takes hard work and flexibility. Most college graduates are not flexible enough to get a high paying job. They mostly have their eyes glued to office/corporate world and outside of vocational work. Also they are trained to be anti capitalist which puts them back even farther. Some of them are also glued on living in high cola areas where its impossible to make money out of college because of high rents and wages are not high enough to compensate.

[@silvertone1]

How the hell are we supposed to tell who's talking?!?! What a dumb app!!

[@ThatonedudeCR12956]

How did he take away "We need fewer regulations and more corporate greed like the 1980s" from THAT interview? That's laughable. They are saying the EXACT opposite of what you're saying they are.

[@AlchemistsTable]

Dear lord - how did nobody call out how much Luntz is spinning the message (after missing or intentionally subverting what the panel was telling him) so blatantly to say what he wanted to pedal? Seriously? Either Luntz is an idiot and didn't actually listen, he didn't do any research into what they were saying to summarize it correctly, or he is positioned to undermine the message because it challenges the statusquo - and it's so easy to say, "oh, those dumb kids - they don't know how the world works...they all think socialism is the way - don't they know that I'll reference the boilerplate examples of where socialism is bad to make them look stupid?" Comon NBC, challenge your guests.

[@TheWizard856]

The problem is if you do more, your reward is more work and higher expectations and no increase in pay. In New York you're better off making 20k or less rather than 40k because between HUD, food stamps, and free health insurance you are working more to get less until you are making over 40k easy. It's housing and healthcare. Build units and get universal healthcare done. It's really that simple to improve peoples lives.

[@jmatthews5685]

The people who can do something don't care enough to. Gen Z knows this . Talk, talk, talk

[@AH-fm7rj]

When US government deficit "alone" is 40% of the total S&P500 revenue, how can there be any capitalism left in the system to be angry at? 😂

[@blackout07blue]

Huh

[@pritapp788]

Govt deficit spending is being used to "stimulate" the economy which benefits... private sector actors and inflation through those actors hiking prices. Inflation has already cooled down in parts of the world - e.g. Europe - which didn't unleash that sort of deficit spending. And that deficit you mention is certainly not being used to help the young, but boomer entitlements such as social security.

[@SuperToughnut]

We need socialism just to keep capitalism afloat. The middle-class is falling into poverty because capitalism doesn't work for most people and voters are recognizing that.

[@nickvin7447]

Capitalism only works if you are not a lazy POS.

[@ea42455]

Socialism ultimately results in a strongman rule by decree. Sounds good to me.

[@wnose]

Socialism works great - corporations get bailouts all the time. But it's an American type of socialism as the people don't get ownership and the C suite gets bonuses.

[@goazer2]

That is complete nonsense in so many ways. Given that most of our problems are actually caused by the propagation of lies, government corruption and government failures socialism would make all of our problems worse.

[@ea42455]

@wnose The utility company that supplies power to my home is a co-op, and such is employee and user owned. So is my telephone/internet/cable TV provider. The supermarket where I do my grocery shopping is employee owned. Just like any other business it mega-corp, they each have jobs that start at minimum... and have high paid top-tier paid CEOs.

[@supermutant]

They're not listening and Frank has his own agenda. Its the high cost of college education and the high cost of home ownership. Things that weren't as challenging for the parents of those kids.

[@ntran4211]

The new generation is awesome. I Just hope they can fix the mess that the generations before them created. Truth hurts gents. Take it in.

[@aw8079]

Landlording is the biggest problem with capitalism. Regulations can save capitalism. Regulations are Protections, unregulated capitalism is anarchy. Health Care, Housing, Food, Water, (clean) Air, and Education should not be for sale.

[@kellyhou9594]

Someone once said all my kids are socialism. Until they graduate and start paying their bills, they become capitalism.

[@Dowskydowsky]

That’s true for people that live in a tiny box where all they can think about is their own perspective - yeah that’s very common for those people.

[@ex3366]

And when they get layoffed?

[@Dowskydowsky]

@@ex3366 did you know that the world is bigger than whatever southern state you’re most likely from? Europe china Canada Australia. Why don’t you ask all of them? Unless you think 80% of the 1st world are children. The Cold War narrative have been proven incorrect. It’s 2024 now.

[@biboebbs624]

not really people can’t afford housing

[@kellyhou9594]

@@biboebbs624 I am sure there must be some $500k 1 bedroom condo you can buy in Toronto. It is just not the kind of house you want. This is just the reality and you have to see the reality and join their game if you want to have home ownership.

[@anddudewaslike]

They haven’t been “educated” to feel that way; it’s their literally experience of the financial system YOU handed them. The gall of these talking heads…

[@johnkerner6553]

Equal opportunity not equality of outcomes

[@dhickey5919]

The arguments aren't new but the distribution of people saying it have changed. The underclass of America is now the middle class. Rebuilding the middle income population has been ignored for too long.

[@SimpMcSimpy]

When your country decide to send 100 billion to other countries, instead of fixing problems at home you have to ask what kind of system is that ?

[@thzene4967]

Why do people who say these kinds of things act like we don't spend billions on social welfare? We literally spend hundreds of billions a year on social welfare.

[@whatgoesaroundcomesaround920]

The kind that considers all factors and acts accordingly. If your house's cooktop has one burner malfunctioning, but your roof leaks in 7 places and most of the grit is gone from the curling shingles, you fix the outside to protect everything inside. You don't get a new cooktop and ignore the roof leaks.

[@jdon2638]

Stop giving money to Ukraine.

[@sandrapalmer4744]

Yeah what do you call it 😮😮

[@sandrapalmer4744]

@@jdon2638actually we aren’t sending actual money we are sending all our old outdated equipment so we can start building new and better updated equipment and keeping jobs for our people and families here in the USA. Everyone should do there homework! On this subject.

[@DavidPat]

1. Many non-capitalist countries also have massive immigration. 2. Many very prosperous countries are not hyper capitalistic.

[@nancybartley4610]

Why are they not thinking outside the box? Form groups that work together to cut costs, to create jobs, to educate each other, to buy a first, modest home together. It is easy to complain. They do have reasons to complain, but how many are living home and saving? How many are working two jobs? Will some of them inherit homes? Many of us older folks did not buy our first home until we had worked our butts off. These kids have legitimate concerns, but they also need to take responsibility for solving the problem. Socialism expects someone else to solve their problems.

[@UnconventionalReasoning]

Socialism leading to authoritarianism is more obvious than capitalism leading to authoritarianism, only because we in the US are so used to the authoritarianism of capitalism that we consider that 'normal'. GenZ has resentment towards capitalism because they have watched the damage it has done to their families with layoffs, rising housing prices, and the 2008 financial crisis.

[@Edgar.Mendoza]

I bet these host are nepo babies 😂😂😂😂

[@noelsherron]

Frank Luntz doesn’t deserve the time of day, let alone airtime.

[@akayoshi1]

one of the participants has a cat ear headset. I cannot take this seriously now.

[@kathleenv510]

What about social democracy such as they have in most European countries? There is another option but it would require reallocating a lot of funding from the Pentagon and closing tax loopholes for the ultra wealthy.

[@andreasmueller8353]

Why is it either or??? So 19th century.

[@rdkirk3834]

Big issue is really corporatism. Millennial saw firsthand during the Great Recession that the government supports corporations, not free enterprise. The fact that they so strongly believe in entrepreneurship shows they don't really believe in socialism...but they see that the government doesn't truly support free enterprise.

[@elizabethcarolan1409]

The young people have a strong point. The wage - productivity gap is the root cause of their resentment. They are being economically strangled and unable to reap the fruits of their labor. Deflecting to blaming the government is a ploy to redirect the conversation. We need to break the stranglehold that corporations have on our political parties and reframe the narrative.

[@roww10]

"The colleges tell the students that they are not getting a fair shake." And then they see the stats are realize that it is true. That is the problem with capitalism. It is not that it doesn't work, it doesn't work for enough people. We're talking laissez-faire capitalism. Republican style.

[@theuscivicsnerd7070]

This is the dumbest thing I’ve seen as someone early Gen Z. I was born in 1998 and have basically been alive for 3 recessions in that short span and only recently have somewhat appropriate steps been made in my eyes. In terms of Reagonomics most Gen z knows a lot of the issues we face economically we can find are tied to some deregulation Reagan did or people inspired by him did.

[@troynewell7800]

lol Democracy. That would be nice. More like a kleptocracy or plutocracy.

[@jodieez232]

why do they point out cuba when talking about socialism when there are highly successful scandinavian countries that enjoy the benefits of socialism, health care higher education and housing. capitalism is predatory!

[@DG-hw8it]

I'd rather call Latin America socialism than the european union! EU also profiting in being part of the western hemisphere!🥰

[@nb6525]

Did any of those countries rescue allies into winning WW2? Did any of these countries invent airplanes, computers, phones, cellphone, internet, gps, e commerce, social media?

[@bibby3027]

Scandinavian countries are not socialist AT ALL. They all have freer capitalist markets than the US. They use capitalism to power their economies and encourage entrepreneurship so their government can afford social programs. social programs are NOT socialism. All of the scandinavian countries encourage private ownership and in the 80s when Sweden strayed away from capitalism it almost destroyed their economy. Socialist lie and say those countries are socialist when they are really capitalism done right.

[@Tyler-vw9bh]

Those Scandinavian countries have - on numerous occasions - reiterated the fact they are not socialist countries. Many of those countries have a freer market than we do (less regulations). The difference is higher taxes and more social programs. The problem for the US is twofold: first, we not only pay for our own security but theirs as well. Second, the fact our government is incompetent. Just look up how much we spend on the VA which is single payer healthcare for about 2% of the population - now multiply that by 50. It basically comes out to 4.5 trillion dollars (for healthcare costs only, not benefits) which is what we spend on healthcare as is. The difference is that money will have interest on it because it will be debt, so the cost is much higher. And that money will be taken out of the market since health insurance companies are not only part of the market but also invest in the market. We already spend more on interest for the federal debt than defense!!!! This is unsustainable and one of the main drivers of inflation. Additionally, those countries have historically been healthier, happier, and with more social cohesion. America is a poor comparison because we are a chaotic country with massive debt, unfettered immigration, and a security guarantee with the majority of the world. Lastly, while I am no fan of our system, the fact is a lot of innovation in healthcare is the result of our system because America is where you can make your money (developing drugs is expensive). Additionally, much of the knowledge for drug development comes from federally subsidized research at our universities..... despite this we get charged the most. Single payer in America means the government sets the prices. One possibility is the government looks out for consumers and cares about its deficits; the result is less innovation (the chance of this is near 0). The second possibility is the politicians hook up the big cooperations as they usually do and treat our deficit (its debt and interest) as a non-issue. The result of this would be EVEN HIGHER costs, EVEN HIGHER inflation, and EVEN HIGHER interest payments. I would recommend you move to a Scandinavian country but they likely wont take you since their recent immigration has greatly strained those social services you love so much but unlike America, their politicians seem to be doing something about it so don’t count on citizenship. *socialism does not mean social programs, it means a centrally planned economy, which given our bloated regulatory state means we are likely more socialist than Scandinavia. We get more socialist every year - its why our economy gets worse and worse

[@jacobstamm]

@@Tyler-vw9bhTo add to your excellently stated points, Sweden does have higher taxes, however, since most of that is a flat tax, their tax brackets are actually *less* progressive than America’s. Whoever popularized the notion that Scandinavia is socialist ought to win an award for most effective disinformation campaign of our generation.

[@davidhiggins3012]

Host didn’t even let him finish his answer. Interrupted him in the middle of his sentence.

[@trave7644]

Because Luntz is an idiot.

[@nancybartley4610]

Did he ask them how socialism would work for them? We do have an enormous gap between the cost of living and the ability of the average person to earn enough to pay for living. That needs to be addressed.

[@GruneD]

Corporate greed is the issue not our economic system.

[@todorkolev7565]

Funny how the Cuban guy is like "Nah, I've been there, Socialsm will mess you up". I lived in socialism too and remember the queues to get half a sausage! If you are going to hate Capitalism, turn off your computer because most of it was done for profit.

[@biboebbs624]

yes socialists can’t participate in society

[@jasonkoroma4323]

See thats the issue here, most of these socialist supporters are easily swayed with emotional rhetoric and are especially feel entitled to other people's money.

[@elizabethr4107]

Hear hear

[@HelpYouEatMe]

Capitalism is great, in theory. Just like Socialism or Communism is great, in theory. Anything left unchecked with eventually destroy a part of the society under it. Everything needs checks, balances and keeping the corruption out of it. Socialism and Communism in the countries that follow them are highly corrupt and have no checks and balances. America is very quickly becoming more and more corrupt without anyway to actually implement checks and balances when the ultra wealthy and corporations, essentially don't have to follow the law.

[@MrVito1180]

thank god these kind of people exist. Makes it easier for my children to succeed when this is their competition.

[@natureboy915]

Love it!

[@Meister190]

You have no idea how accurate you are!! My 28 year old daughter is now the Director of HR in a VERY large, very recognizable name in the theme park industry (4,500 employees) because she had virtually no real competition to actually be successful. She is good at her job for sure, but 20 years ago she would have to put in at least 10 more years to even be considered for the job, there would have been to many other competent people, now companies are becoming desperate for anyone with an actual brain and common sense.

[@royprovins7037]

Exactly the Indians Chinese and Middle East come over and kick their butts. These kids will all be working for them.

[@christiancoronado]

Exactly, if you put forward some effort it's very likely you'll succeed. Millennials, my generations were pretty bad, but Genz are the last nail in the coffin.

[@blackout07blue]

@@Meister190 lol wut? 😂😂

[@alcapony732]

There is so much opportunity in this country, leadership is at a premium. If you show young people where the issues are and how they can exceed their expectations by becoming leaders they will feast on these opportunities. Instead of feeling entitled or expecting a high paying job.

[@raydosson2025]

If you are reading this, please please please go watch Scott Galloway's latest Ted talk. Spread awareness.

[@MatthewMS.]

Poor Jen Z., she is not having fun. There is no way to fix it.

[@jgnmtz]

Bernie said democratic socialism would provide higher wages for low income workers m healthcare for all citizens , social security security , yet keep competition in the mix . More competition. More efficiency .

[@thedecider1984]

Sorry, but some of them aren't that bright.

[@Mountain4]

As a member of gen z that recently graduated university, a significant amount of my professors were avowed communists and one even received an award from Castro. I emphasize with the understanding that the game is essentially rigged but people of my generation are drawing the wrong conclusion about how to respond to the issue due to indoctrination of socialist ideals. We need less regulation on the small players, not the government helping to protect and entrench big business. All of the current “climate” and DEI initiatives are thinly veiled corporate schemes to make entrepreneurship more difficult, control consumers, and help the big guys win. It’s the worst mix of capitalism and authoritarian characteristics with a veneer of socialism slapped over it to make it attractive to young people.

[@Tomren44]

American students who have never lived in a socialist country think socialism is better because of what they hear from their teachers and online.

[@maverickjones9418]

The fiat system is the problem. People need to be paid in real money.

[@totallyrealcat4800]

Yes, this is part of the problem. Gen Z doesn't want to work because they get paid like crap because the dollar is constantly losing value. Things are getting more expensive because the dollar is losing value

[@supadave422]

If the government doesn't step in with regulations to crash the housing market such as banning foreign investment in single family homes, banning corporations from owning single family homes and banning short term rentals. This issue will only exacerbate.

[@har8397]

Un.fkn. real.... I'm sure most of those focus group participants are yelling at this segment right now

[@kdub6593]

Wokism results in skepticism . When strong emotional beliefs held close to the heart continuously fail, what identity frustration.

[@AK-nx9lg]

It's ok to say Gen z is woke.

[@tiaay]

That “woke” buzzword is starting to get old

[@jonnyfendi2003]

No it isn’t. We call out that crap whenever we see fit!!

[@brittney3156]

News 24/7 and they won't just show the footage to let people decide, they have to control the narrative.

[@s.d.crockett486]

The best equalizing factor is to teach financial education to all kids in high school

[@grandmiserthe3rd434]

Gen Z..ombie ......!!!

[@Gxby1]

They are correct though.

[@Tomren44]

Pls go live in a socialist country and see how you like it.

[@skolvikings354]

USA best country and economy in the world hands down always. Otherwise. LEAVE

[@warmpi]

​@@skolvikings354high income inequality though Best economy.. for a select few

[@royprovins7037]

@@warmpi History is the story of leadership for a reason. Frankly most people just take up space

[@unicornbaby6500]

Lmaoo, I'm a millenial and we went through this humiliation ritual blaming our lack of home-ownership on "avocado toasts". Now Gen Z is the new target.

[@MrJohnnyboats]

These old guys sound old fashioned.

[@marshall3278]

It is insane how out of touch these guys are lol

[@Chris-xy8lu]

Would like to add this. I’m 60. Believe in Capitalism but I never worried about “ my group” as in generation. My group is my family friends. No more no less. In other words. You do You. Forget the worlds issues. They’ll solve themselves or they won’t. It’s a dog eat dog world. Despite attitudes and fronts

[@troynewell7800]

Hard to get a loan to start a business when all these kids have no equity, they’re all renters or living with parents

[@user-rk5nw3zd2f]

I work in construction trade. So, last year all suppliers raised a price for equipment at 15%. In this year they're did it again at 6-8%. My paycheck doesn't get raises, and clients can't afford my service. Insurance is higher that in 2020. I'm done with business, I can't beat the price of bigger competitors on market.

[@coreyschneider4041]

That girl doesn’t want “equity”…… equity would mean getting the average start amongst all people including third world countries. Your starting position is gonna be WAY WAY WAY lower than you currently are. She wants a starting position of where a 50 year old woman currently is.

[@rchot84]

They don't like the fact that big corps pay to skew the rules in their favor. Making it really hard for competition.