The Genesis G90 is Motor Trend's Car of the Year. Is It REALLY That Good? Mechanic's Review

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The Car Care Nut Reviews

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A Mechanic Reviews the 2023 Genesis G90 The MotorTrend Car of The Year for 2023. But is it worthy of that title?
In this video we take a look at the 2023 Genesis G90. We start with a proper technical review under the hood then underneath the car.
Then we look at the exterior and interior. Then we talk about some things we don't like about it.
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0:00 Intro
0:46 Under The Hood
13:19 Under The Car
19:21 Exterior Review
24:58 Interior Review
32:14 Things I Don't Like About It
35:31 Should You Buy One?

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@lowboybootay7559
@lowboybootay7559 5 ай бұрын
This fellow is the best car reviewer there is. This is the kind of information I want to help make a car purchasing decision. Keep those reviews coming Car Care Nut!
@samuelm5140
@samuelm5140 10 ай бұрын
4:20 I normally trust your reviews, but had to fact check this tidbit. "Hyundai Motor Group’s new Dual Fuel Injection system comes with two injectors, one GDi and the other MPi, for each cylinder, taking advantage of the pros of both injector types. For low-to-mid speed everyday driving, the system uses the MPi injector; for high-speed driving in highways or expressways, the system uses the GDi injector. Such optimization of fuel injection type to the driving conditions has led to an improvement in both performance and fuel economy."
@texlad04
@texlad04 9 ай бұрын
Which is the setup on the 1UR Lexus V8 in some markets. It's on my 2011 LS 460, so it's interesting how others came around.
@Rickbearcat
@Rickbearcat 9 ай бұрын
I'm very surprised that he missed this. That tells me one thing...he didn't really research the ins and outs of this car before his review. And I actually believe he is completely blowing too much hot air on the door situation of this car. He even showed how easily closing the door with one hand was accomplished.
@bigmacdaddy1234
@bigmacdaddy1234 9 ай бұрын
@@Rickbearcat I tried the doors as well when I was shopping for a new car. He is right...they are annoying.
@Rickbearcat
@Rickbearcat 9 ай бұрын
@@bigmacdaddy1234 …Really? Well, since I don’t have any personal experience with this, then, I’ll have to take your word for it.
@OneEyedJacker
@OneEyedJacker 9 ай бұрын
So, what did you find?
@Hardcaslte
@Hardcaslte 9 ай бұрын
Only two things I disagree on is the infotainment system. I had the similar one in my GV70 and it was excellent. Fast, extremely smooth, graphics transitions were nice using the nvidia hardware, etc. Not sure why you're claiming it's slow or old unless it somehow uses a different hardware than the GV70 which I doubt it does. Second is the leather, I really like how it feels. Maybe it's subjective. I don't think I ever had anyone sit in my GV70 that didn't like how it felt, which uses the same materials as the G90.
@jerbsherb4391
@jerbsherb4391 4 ай бұрын
Maybe you should try other luxury brands first before getting upset. The European luxury brands are miles ahead.
@mojojojo_BB
@mojojojo_BB 4 ай бұрын
@@jerbsherb4391 Lol
@yorkaveeno378
@yorkaveeno378 3 ай бұрын
Because, it your own car
@orbitalprime3329
@orbitalprime3329 Ай бұрын
​@jerbsherb4391 In what way? My SQ7 Prestige with the luxury package takes a back seat to the G90 in a massive way as far as interior is concerned. This idea that the European luxury cars are just simply the best is absolutely hilarious. Go look at the engineering on the gen 1 Taycan vs the Model Y of the equivalent year. The Model Y literally dunked on that German engineering failure so hard and for a fraction of the price. Definitely not as nice of an interior, but the mechanical side was years ahead. Hard pill to swallow, Koreans are coming in hot. $3k for a suede headliner or $3k for what should be standard safety systems on the German brands like Audi is pathetic. An Elantra has more standard features lol
@garybaldwin1061
@garybaldwin1061 10 ай бұрын
Nobody does a review like you. Motor trend is beholden to the car companies. I like the engine overview you do. I don't think anyone else on KZbin does the excellent reviews like this.
@alexandertebo4011
@alexandertebo4011 10 ай бұрын
Watch SavageGeese if you want to go even more in-depth with engine/suspension bits with interviews from the actual people who designed/built them as well and actual driving/track segments
@potatochobit
@potatochobit 9 ай бұрын
uhhhhh
@edwinstupka3645
@edwinstupka3645 9 ай бұрын
Agreed, great perspective.
@dwadd7528
@dwadd7528 9 ай бұрын
Do not buy this. I had a 2021 G80 bought used with 4k miles and sold it after 1 year since it was so bad. 1) Front Headliner was not secured to the roof. I could see the plastic clips if i pulled it down slightly. How did this get past quality control wtf? 2) Panoramic roof would flex and crack if i go over uneven surfaces, which never happened with any cars I've owned. Dealerships had 4 tries to fix but could not fix 3) Weak AC that is terribly inadequate for Texas weather. 4) Rides rough and not very comfortable even with non-run flats. Granted I had the 20 inch wheels but still. 5) Poor NVH in general even with acoustic laminated glass compared to other luxury cars I've owned. 6) Gas mileage for the V6 sits around 19 mph 60/40 highway city driving which is pretty mediocre. 7) Just does not drive as well overall as the Germans or Japanese. You can tell the Koreans brands just arent quite up to snuff when it comes to driving dynamics.
@Zaturn_
@Zaturn_ 9 ай бұрын
Exactly. Wish he would cover some of Acura/Honda engines.
@billosby9997
@billosby9997 10 ай бұрын
Just saying, back in the early 70s' Motor Trend named the Chevy Vega " Car of the Year".
@montefiveforty1
@montefiveforty1 10 ай бұрын
Also in 1983 the Renault Alliance...
@ianriggs
@ianriggs 9 ай бұрын
Lol omg I didn't know that 😂
@deborahchesser7375
@deborahchesser7375 9 ай бұрын
@@montefiveforty1what a POS too, like the Le Car. First thing to go, le brakes
@lactusgalacto1174
@lactusgalacto1174 9 ай бұрын
I like the Chevy Vega.😁😁😁😁😁
@deborahchesser7375
@deborahchesser7375 9 ай бұрын
@@montefiveforty1 I got another great one for, remember the Eagle Premiere? What a garbage pile lol
@vincentlee732
@vincentlee732 10 ай бұрын
The Door Hinges are designed to be heavy because it will lock the opening angle and stay there. No more door accidentally slammed into the car next to you and etc. also, if you push while opening the door, the electric motor will accelerate the door to assist you. If your door is not closed or if you are too lazy to do it, long hold the lock button on the key fob and the car will closes all the doors automatically and even raise all the sunshades.
@derekgaliee4351
@derekgaliee4351 Ай бұрын
Thank you for The Information ☺️
@tundras4ever552
@tundras4ever552 10 ай бұрын
I miss the days that big sedans had massive v8s haha
@allcan4175
@allcan4175 10 ай бұрын
yes! much simpler, probably would last a lot longer...
@user-xf4ib6ko4m
@user-xf4ib6ko4m 10 ай бұрын
Ahh yes, the golden days before the they them LGHDTV woke liberals took over ther world…
@nealewalter
@nealewalter 10 ай бұрын
They used to have a 420 hp V8😢
@ruiyangao9255
@ruiyangao9255 10 ай бұрын
I miss the days when gas prices were half of what they are today
@return.of.the.nac18
@return.of.the.nac18 10 ай бұрын
I agree. Need bigger motors
@valserrie2122
@valserrie2122 9 ай бұрын
Ive had 2 Mercedes, including the S550. 2 BMWs including the 750Li, two Jaguars, 2 Lexus, And 2 Cadillacs. And now i traded my S550 in and bought the Genesis G90. So ive had a chance to own a couple of versions of all those cars. None of them were problem free. In fact, the ones i expected to be near perfect quality were the lexuses, but i had the most serious problems with them. The Mercedes S550 had system problems saying the brake was on when it wasn't, saying various sensors were not working, and the windshield cleaner stopped working. Plus it was starting to lean down a bit on the passenger side, indicating a problem with the air susoension. Those are $10,000 for a set of 4. Also it needed brakes and tires. Seems like every year i was spending $2,000 for 2 tires and 2 brakes. It was expensive to maintain. But the Genesis has a 10 year / 100 000 mile warrantee. That makes me feel more comfortable.
@antcantcook960
@antcantcook960 4 ай бұрын
Goofy thinks dealers wont fight tooth and nail against claims on a Hyundai😂
@antcantcook960
@antcantcook960 4 ай бұрын
@@dac33nr58yeah manufacturerws dont fight warranty claims, especially not Hyundai😂
@dac33nr58
@dac33nr58 4 ай бұрын
@@antcantcook960 Not a gate keeper, just stating anecdotal facts which happened to my sister Venza and friends RX. never stated anything about how's better warranty claims duh.🤪
@spook5756
@spook5756 4 ай бұрын
I thought people three year lease these types of vehicles.
@valserrie2122
@valserrie2122 4 ай бұрын
@spook5756 A lot do, I don't. My brother leases his cars because he can claim it 100% on his taxes. I can't write it off, so i have to look at the actual costs, long term, and I've found leasing to be more expensive in the long run. I've only ever leased 2 vehicles out of 30 I've had over the years. Dealers prefer to lease them because there is a lot more money in it for them. To me, a lease is like a bad, long-term rental. You keep paying payments forever, but you never build any equity. And you never get to own your car. You're always driving somebody elses car and yet you still have to maintain and repair it, you have to pay mileage fees if you go over the alloted miles, you have to have it in perfect condition when you give it back to them, or they charge premium fees and you have to guarantee the end value and pay the difference if it depreciates more than that. And if you don't like it after a year or two, you have to pay more stiff fees to get out of your lease contract. Look at how the lease is structured: The dealer takes the full msrp price of a new vehicle, then assume the estimated lowest depreciated value after 2 or 3 years, then take that as a lump sum and finance that at the highest current interest rate. People only look at the monthly payment. Since it's lower to pay the financed depreciation than it is to pay the financed full value of the car they think they are paying less - or they think they can drive a nicer car by leasing than they can by buying a lower level car. I don't like that whole scenario. The dealer is charging you through the nose. They get all the advantages, and you have no control. You will be making car payments for life. And you never get to own a vehicle. What makes a lot more sense for me is to simply buy it as a lease return as a 2 year old car. You're going to get a car with low mileage in perfect condition for half the value or less. Then, if you need to finance it, you can shop around for the best lowest interest rate. You have equity in the car, and when it's paid off, it's yours. You can drive it for years with no car payment. Case in point: my last Mercedes. Brand new the car was $137,500 plus taxes, fees, etc. Somebody paid over $100,000 to lease that just to drive it for 2 years. Then I bought it for $55k 2 years later, with only 20,000 miles on it. It was virtually like a new car, but roughly 1/3 the price. Then I drove it for 8 years and then traded it in for $20k. So, in the end, that guy who leased it paid $100k to drive it for 2 years, and I paid $35k to drive it for 8 years. His cost per year was about $50k. My cost per year was less than $10k per year for the same car. I didn't have any lease contract with all its fees, requirements, and restrictions. For me, that's a much more sensible way to go. As everybody knows, the biggest depreciation is in the first 2 years. That's what you are paying for plus interest when you lease. As for this G90 I just bought, a 2023 is $100k. But I actually like the 2022 model better. I like the looks better, (people ask me if it's a Bentley) plus I got the video screens in the back, and I got the 420hp naturally aspirated V8. Lots of power and no turbo lag, no turbos or supercharger to maintain over time. My Mercedes had to have twin turbos on its V8 to get in that range of power. The G90 only had 15k miles on it, and I only paid $60k. I paid cash, so no monthly payments ever. No interest, no financing fees, etc. Just $60k. And I get a full 10 year / 100k mile warranty. It is in perfect showroom condition and even still has the new car smell. If I own it for 8 years and then trade it in or sell it for 20k then, it will have cost me 40k to own it for 8 years. Which works out to $5k per year. Which is a very reasonable cost for a luxury car. And I won't have had to deal with mileage fees. Buyout / escspe fees, end-value fees, and all the other nonsense with leasing contracts. For me, this is by far the best way to have a nice car. But that's my opinion and experience. Your mileage may vary, as they say. ;-)
@philhenderson3516
@philhenderson3516 10 ай бұрын
4:20 You're incorrect. This engine has both direct injection + multi-port injection (dubbed as Smartstream). Please rectify.
@ishaansaral502
@ishaansaral502 10 ай бұрын
Correct. I also noticed that. It's very obvious he hates Hyundai, so he spends as much time shitting on their cars and doesn't do proper research.
@xsej4223
@xsej4223 10 ай бұрын
​@@ishaansaral502.. he only likes toyota..go check out his review on a mazda cx 90.. it was brutal.
@samuelm5140
@samuelm5140 10 ай бұрын
"Hyundai Motor Group’s new Dual Fuel Injection system comes with two injectors, one GDi and the other MPi, for each cylinder, taking advantage of the pros of both injector types. For low-to-mid speed everyday driving, the system uses the MPi injector; for high-speed driving in highways or expressways, the system uses the GDi injector. Such optimization of fuel injection type to the driving conditions has led to an improvement in both performance and fuel economy."
@WrestlingErnestHemingway
@WrestlingErnestHemingway 10 ай бұрын
This horrible KZbinr reviewer doesn't rectify anything or care. He doesn't even bother to reply to his own comment sections. He left out the fact in the main title of this video here that this is the Electrified G90 totally misleading others to think this is the normal motor build on all G90s when the mechanics are totally different. This KZbin sucks.
@alliejr
@alliejr 10 ай бұрын
Just saw one at the golf club… it is HUGE!!! Certainly has a presence.
@wholeNwon
@wholeNwon 10 ай бұрын
Or at least size.
@ghostman6074
@ghostman6074 27 күн бұрын
It scared me it’s so big.
@alexsystems2001
@alexsystems2001 10 ай бұрын
That’s something that was always very annoying in the auto start stop cars. I went and test drove a Mercedes a few years back and it was super humid that day, well the engine stopped at a light and the windows started to fog up because the water from the air con started evaporating. For the almost no MPG that saves it’s a stupid system. If I had a choice between auto start stop or a hybrid. I’d pick a hybrid all day because everything keeps working when the engine is off.
@deborahchesser7375
@deborahchesser7375 9 ай бұрын
Not to mention starting the car 50 times a day, yes it’s stupid for sure.
@icosthop9998
@icosthop9998 9 ай бұрын
Can you bypass that feature ?
@alexsystems2001
@alexsystems2001 9 ай бұрын
@@icosthop9998 I dunno if you can on this car but in other brands there was a button you could turn that off for that start only. It didn’t remember it so every time you got in your $80,000 car that feature was turned back on. 😅 it can remember your radio station, your seat positions, your mirror positions, your last climate control settings but it can’t remember that you don’t like that feature and want to turn it off. It was also very startling every time the engine would come back to life when you took off.
@WrestlingErnestHemingway
@WrestlingErnestHemingway 9 ай бұрын
yes you can by pass this feature on the regular G90s. THis one he reviewed here he FAILED to mention in the hybrid which makes snse this verson has the stop start fuction.@@icosthop9998
@governorstash8168
@governorstash8168 9 ай бұрын
​@@icosthop9998I got a weaker battery. It has enough power to operate everything except the start stop function. The icon for the start stop is now constantly blinking. But everything else works fine.
@Leebs
@Leebs 9 ай бұрын
Excellent video. I've been searching for a resource like yours. I've talked to many mechanics with questions like these. 👍 Thanks
@shawnalonzo5968
@shawnalonzo5968 9 ай бұрын
Wow! This was a GREAT review. Very informative. You really broke this vehicle down. Thank you.
@ZubairAli-AbuSid
@ZubairAli-AbuSid 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so very much for making these videos. This gives the buyer a perspective beyond the looks and the shine of a fancy car like this one, before making a decision to purchase something so expensive. Please make videos on Volkswagen Vehicles as well. Love your content. Thank you. 🙂
@skyeducreay3190
@skyeducreay3190 9 ай бұрын
very detailed. Love you went into more info regarding the under carriage of the car. This area usually is left off 95% of the reviews. Thank you.
@emsg2009
@emsg2009 9 ай бұрын
Unmatched review. Such calm and poise utilized in the knowledgeable display of automobiles . Keep up the good work. SUBSCRIBED.
@Arcticfox7
@Arcticfox7 9 ай бұрын
He is an arrogant blabbering mouth that thinks he knows better than anyone. I unsubbed long time ago but his videos keep popping up in my feed. Annoying
@lawfulldick4158
@lawfulldick4158 8 ай бұрын
I love this man's presentation style, his intelligence plus he shares our average joe point of view. Few reviewers catch my attention like this due to his mechanic's opinion of build quality and future trouble points.
@MrRez86
@MrRez86 9 ай бұрын
What most car reviews should be like..tell us what we are getting into and driven beyond just the engine..love it man! Motortrend the best been a fan since middle school
@BLR1GBattlemaster
@BLR1GBattlemaster 9 ай бұрын
Other reviewers said similar things about the automatic doors until they actually tried them. I think the consensus is the automatic doors are great, because of how long the door reach can be. For old people, I can see this becoming an issue.
@hopentethking1966
@hopentethking1966 9 ай бұрын
If you are too old to close your car door...you are too old to be driving. My 80 year old grandfather was opening and closing his truck door since I was little kiddie and continued to do so until he died at 94.
@TheSemiArtisticPuma
@TheSemiArtisticPuma 8 ай бұрын
@@hopentethking1966 i dont think the point of owning this car is to be the one driving it
@badmaanful
@badmaanful 7 ай бұрын
​@@TheSemiArtisticPumaI agree and that's my one gripe about it. It's too pasenger based. I'm trying to decide if I should still get it or not
@TheSemiArtisticPuma
@TheSemiArtisticPuma 7 ай бұрын
@@badmaanfuli think most cars in this segment are passenger based honestly, it just happens to be the cheapest aside from the A8 (almost) and the s90 (if you count it in this segment). If you want a driver focused car i think there are better cars in this price range
@61espo
@61espo 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Ahmed! That was a very through & informative review! Excellent!
@ismawan1980
@ismawan1980 9 ай бұрын
very amazing review, very honest and detailed. Thank you so much
@livinginwilderness7913
@livinginwilderness7913 10 ай бұрын
Great review as always! I’ve been getting a bit confused here with some of your reviews lately, and the reason like you said, it’s a luxury segment with opulence and bells and whistles…etc, so who (most buyers I mean) cares about calibre size, wish bones, cheap mufflers, and so forth…”Most” people who buy or lease this in this day and age, even used, would end up taking it to the dealership or excellent mechanics like yourself, due to the complexity you described, and that applies to almost all luxury vehicles. What matters here is you get the comfort and luxury you paid for. Thanks!
@WrestlingErnestHemingway
@WrestlingErnestHemingway 10 ай бұрын
It's confusing because he doesn't know how to PROPERLY title his videos like this one here. This is the Electrified version of the G90 and the engine components are 100% different that the standard G90s.
@mabdulazimfadil
@mabdulazimfadil 10 ай бұрын
Wow, its a great looking car, and insane interior 🤩
@jerbsherb4391
@jerbsherb4391 4 ай бұрын
I like the fact that you don't let them get away from being cheap in certain areas. They are starting to charge people luxury prices so they should be treated as such.
@Lyf3style
@Lyf3style 9 ай бұрын
had my attention for the whole 39 mins great review new subscriber!
@drj6418
@drj6418 10 ай бұрын
Your reviews are the BEST on the channel. It would be great if you could drive each car as well so you can give us your driving impressions. THANK YOU and keep up the great work!
@ozarkliving7263
@ozarkliving7263 10 ай бұрын
Great idea
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow 10 ай бұрын
Yeah -- DRIVE IT!!!
@WrestlingErnestHemingway
@WrestlingErnestHemingway 10 ай бұрын
No his videos are not the best because he doesn't know how to PROPERLY title them correctly. He does this video acting like this is a standard G90 when it is not at all. The one her reviews here is the Electrified version which is totally different build in mechanics & the engine components he is talking about in this video. So it's a BOGUS review unless he changes the title and INFORMS VIEWERS this is the Electrified version. HORRIBLE MISLEADING REVIEW HERE!
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow 10 ай бұрын
@@WrestlingErnestHemingway His videos are the best!
@WrestlingErnestHemingway
@WrestlingErnestHemingway 9 ай бұрын
@@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow WRONG. Otherwise he would have PROPERLY titled thsi video as it being the Electrifed G90 version. He has now mislead tons of people in thinking this is all G90s. So wrong on every level unelss he chages the title. He is NOT even the best. He proved that in his stupid fake MISLEADING title. WHo would trust a mechnic that can't even title his videos correctly with what car it is he's critisizing? Smh. Get you head out of his a$$ SIMP.
@ausafansari3489
@ausafansari3489 10 ай бұрын
People buying this car would not worry about gas mileage or reliability in the long. Most would be leases
@VisionStance
@VisionStance 9 ай бұрын
Great Review. I subbed and will look forward to more valuable reviews from you!
@Todd.T
@Todd.T 9 ай бұрын
1. Anybody that has been around for a while knows the MT car of the year award doesn't mean much. 2. It would be better if the car was reviewed over 5 years and then got awards.
@DeadofWinter321
@DeadofWinter321 7 ай бұрын
If Lexus had any of the features this vehicle has (like the electronic closing doors), he would find any possible reason to praise it 🤣 It would be one of best things (features) since sliced bread.
@tonysterbenc
@tonysterbenc 6 ай бұрын
So I take it you didn't see his review of this car's direct competitor, the Lexus LS500, which he criticized at the end as simply not as smooth or special as its predecessors -- or its direct competitors.
@antcantcook960
@antcantcook960 4 ай бұрын
Yeah closing dooors speak to driving experience and refinement😂please tell me in lexus history where they priduced crappy cars like Hyundai?
@DeadofWinter321
@DeadofWinter321 4 ай бұрын
@@antcantcook960 - Lexus has produced crappy vehicles in the past. They're not fucking gold 😂😂😂 Lexus has always been a poor man's luxury car because it is just a dressed up Toyota (low on features and tech) with leather.
@papaagidi2838
@papaagidi2838 10 ай бұрын
In terms of reliability, I’ll trust this car after Lexus way way before any German car
@wholeNwon
@wholeNwon 9 ай бұрын
German cars are JUNK. Had the premiere brand for 20 yrs. and LOTS of problems starting with day one...delivery defects.
@papaagidi2838
@papaagidi2838 9 ай бұрын
@@wholeNwon yea junk like Scotty Kilmer will say
@rvilla4257
@rvilla4257 9 ай бұрын
Hyundai over Lexus? Either you cannot afford it or don't know nothing about cars.
@Whiskybuckeye
@Whiskybuckeye 9 ай бұрын
​@@rvilla4257And you can't read. He said AFTER Lexus.
@JohnLee-db9zt
@JohnLee-db9zt 9 ай бұрын
@@rvilla4257you can’t read😂
@HenryRoss-wu4lo
@HenryRoss-wu4lo 4 ай бұрын
❤@Ur breakdown of these metal or plastic machines 👊🏾👊🏻👊🏿
@Genkaku
@Genkaku 9 ай бұрын
Very thorough review! Subscribed
@sava2228
@sava2228 5 ай бұрын
Way above all competitors 🎉🎉
@moloono1
@moloono1 9 ай бұрын
Here’s a reminder that the PT Cruiser was also voted as Motor Trend Car of the Year 😂😂
@tonysterbenc
@tonysterbenc 6 ай бұрын
And the molten Caprice taxicab.
@ClownWorldHONKHONK-yj5sn
@ClownWorldHONKHONK-yj5sn 4 ай бұрын
Every car reviewer is paid off, especially if they go on the fancy trips! But motor trend, car and driver are at another level of complete BS!
@tonysterbenc
@tonysterbenc 4 ай бұрын
@@ClownWorldHONKHONK-yj5sn I personally think Motor Trend is much worse than C/D.
@ryanwalker8098
@ryanwalker8098 9 ай бұрын
Great comprehensive review!!!
@juliebrigman2367
@juliebrigman2367 2 ай бұрын
I love your reviews! They are very through and you give the information you really need about a car. Any chance you could do some Toyota, Lexus and Audi cars/SUVs?
@kenbarbret6632
@kenbarbret6632 9 ай бұрын
I really liked your review when it concerns the actual operation of how the 48v system works. I was very surprised to see they chose to run it thru a belt instead of directly to the transmission. Very disconcerting to me anyways. It really does seem like a weak link to what could have been a better used feature. And the AC thing bothers me a lot. Hopefully they will change this on later models. Thank you for a very in-depth review.
@tails300
@tails300 9 ай бұрын
There full hybrids have the same setup (specifically the Tuscan, Sportage, Sorrento, and Santa Fe hybrids) using motor/generator attached to a belt drive 🤦🏽‍♂️.
@10Gurudev
@10Gurudev 8 ай бұрын
​@@tails300The Genesis platform is not shared with the rest of Hyundai Group cars. It's unique. Much like Lexus and Toyota. Or Wolkswagen and Lamborghini.
@thereckon3592
@thereckon3592 8 ай бұрын
@@10Gurudev Lexus and Toyota? And Lamborghini does use Audi parts as well.
@MLHunt
@MLHunt 8 ай бұрын
@@tails300 Why do you think they're the only ones who do it that way rather than inserting the electrified drive components directly into the driveline like everyone else? Seems like a more complicated and less efficient way to do it. Packaging maybe?
@star1355
@star1355 10 ай бұрын
Hate it or love it the g90 is on top. Love genesis design language
@wholeNwon
@wholeNwon 10 ай бұрын
On top of a pile of what?
@TheBjjones
@TheBjjones 10 ай бұрын
@@wholeNwon 🤣
@tonysterbenc
@tonysterbenc 6 ай бұрын
Above the Mercedes S Class? Not in reputation, sales or transaction price.
@Will_14_years_ago
@Will_14_years_ago 5 ай бұрын
Honestly that body style is absolutely beautiful. The way the c pillar pours into the trunk is perfection. It reminds me of when mercedes came out with the s500 w140 back in the early 90s.
@alp3781
@alp3781 3 ай бұрын
Love watching you.....again.
@jaytharpe3247
@jaytharpe3247 10 ай бұрын
This car definitely has presence. I saw one the other day and it grabbed my attention immediately.
@MrGeezil
@MrGeezil 10 ай бұрын
Even the older once still have a presence, I think the LS500 ain’t got that cause looks so much like the ES350.
@planner37
@planner37 9 ай бұрын
I bet when the warranty is up the repair bills will be attention grabbers too. This makes BMWs look like models of simplicity and reliability. I wonder if they get their plastic parts from the same place.
@mikexcanxjerk
@mikexcanxjerk 9 ай бұрын
@@MrGeezilwhich older year are you referring to for the g90?
@trstnhn
@trstnhn 5 ай бұрын
@@planner37 Sounds like some idiot hater with zero knowledge of cars just mimicking what he heard from the video LOL.
@lss-jprep4980
@lss-jprep4980 10 ай бұрын
Awesome review. Would love to see you tackle the Genesis GV70 2.5T.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine 10 ай бұрын
He needs to. That suv is truly world class
@jasonsadler6962
@jasonsadler6962 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. Another “award winning” car that would benefit from a deep analysis like this.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine 10 ай бұрын
@@jasonsadler6962 why the quotes around award winning? Genesis is murdering the Japanese brands
@limelife7457
@limelife7457 9 ай бұрын
Genesis is a Hyundai that wants to be a luxury brand but fails on sales 😂 Motor Tends is hyping the car brand but lacking the heritage image 😆
@ummmbye1228
@ummmbye1228 9 ай бұрын
@@limelife7457it’s a new brand. It won’t come off the bat selling like crazy. Give it some time and they’ll be bigger than they are now
@amnguyen1659
@amnguyen1659 Ай бұрын
Thank god, that’s why I bought a 2021 G90 with the 5.0 straight V8 AWD. Nothing complicated, old school. 426 HP. 25.6 mpg on the highway. My Korean Cadillac. Lol.
@mackfar27
@mackfar27 Ай бұрын
I’m on my second Genesis 5.0. Love these cars. My first was a 2015 and now a 2018 G80.
@GNR325
@GNR325 6 ай бұрын
I believe Genesis says this engine has both direct and multiport fuel injection.
@billkallas1762
@billkallas1762 10 ай бұрын
Stop-Start functions on most cars, can be turned off.....I would. Imagine stopping at a red light, and your AC turns off, because the car is set to Stop-Start.....No thanks. Turn it off.
@wakawaka8736
@wakawaka8736 10 ай бұрын
Quite informative ty. Greetings from Texas.
@franciscomerino3432
@franciscomerino3432 9 ай бұрын
Love your reviews, getting an honest, practical, well informed, detailed review of cars is priceless. We have owned 5 Acuras would love a review of the latest generation MDX. Keep up your good work looking forward to your coming reviews. Thanks
@mikeb2777
@mikeb2777 9 ай бұрын
I have a G70 and it is terrific.
@thomasroberts8024
@thomasroberts8024 10 ай бұрын
The "bolt" supplied to hang a wheel on while you line up another one or two and start the threads is not a new idea. My Mercedes-Benzes from the 70s-80s also had that feature. It made changing wheels MUCH EASIER. As I struggle to line up and hold a 235/55 R20 wheel and tire on my RX, I think of the "good old days." That would include having a MUCH younger, stronger body.........
@rdargenio
@rdargenio 4 ай бұрын
True but I like wheel studs and bolts much better. Maybe harder to make them elegant, but way more practical
@thisandthatautomotive
@thisandthatautomotive 10 ай бұрын
This new intro theme I like it, short and sweet
@dyoo3603
@dyoo3603 9 ай бұрын
I saw a reviewer open the door with a pinky. Apparently they didn't want the door to auto open for liability issues but if you open the door by pushing out on the open button on the door, as long as you keep pushing on the button it will "assist" your open making the door feel weightless
@PremierAutoMan86
@PremierAutoMan86 10 ай бұрын
Beautiful car, but only a couple hundred will be sold a year. This car has 3 things working against it. 1: It's not an SUV (I love sedans, but the majority don't) 2: Not many are signing up to pay $100k for a Hyundai. Sorry, Genesis. 3: No real cutting edge powertrain. This should've been a powerful V8 or dare I say a full EV.
@28naveenator27van
@28naveenator27van 10 ай бұрын
Having the V6 is going to hurt it in the long run. Also having sales in very small numbers means that your cargoes obsolete much faster as parts inventory and body parts disappear. I found that out with a Veloster that isn't that old. Parts guy told me it's the same with any models that sell in small volumes it's not just Veloster or Hyundai. If this G90 only sells 5000 a year for 4 years. they're not gonna make parts like they would for Elantra or Sonata. Buyer beware 5 years after the last of the current model is sold.
@bwest-yq3uc
@bwest-yq3uc 10 ай бұрын
Wish you would show the window sticker of these new vehicles you review. It would be so informative. Thanks in advance for the consideration.
@gsupasinga
@gsupasinga 4 ай бұрын
I wish there were more Toyota/Lexus reviews. Still, thanks so much for your incredibly detailed reviews and honest opinions thus far!
@cziffra11
@cziffra11 8 ай бұрын
I find it curious and a bit frustrating that ---this being an automobile -- there was no time devoted to how the car drives, only a phrase or two about its "opulence." Okay. But how's it on the highway, on secondary roads, in slippery conditions? Is its acceleration adequate, thrilling or something in between. Fuel consumption? Premium or regular? Etc. But I did enjoy the thoroughness of the rest of the review. This guy obviously knows his stuff.
@wholeNwon
@wholeNwon 10 ай бұрын
Motor Trend's advice on car purchases? You have to be joking. Not interested in reliability? Wrong. I certainly don't want to waste my TIME dealing with car repairs that better engineered, better constructed and better tested vehicles wouldn't have. Do I want to be conspicuous? Absolutely not.
@WrestlingErnestHemingway
@WrestlingErnestHemingway 10 ай бұрын
This supposed mechanic KZbinr reviewer fails to mention that Motor Trend was talking about the majority of REGULAR G90s being sold and not this Electrified version. He FAILLED to put in the title of his video here that he was reviewing the Electrified G90. This review is bogus and this KZbinr is biased imo. Otherwise he would have put the Electrified G90 in the title of this video. Smh.
@samuelm5140
@samuelm5140 10 ай бұрын
4:20 Sorry, but this part is just wrong. Hyundai's "smartstream" technology uses both port and direct injection.
@WrestlingErnestHemingway
@WrestlingErnestHemingway 10 ай бұрын
Yeah this guy is a horrible KZbinr & I don't even believe he is even good mechanic after watching this bogus biased review. I say its bogus because first he failed to put in the title of this video that this is the Electrified G90", thus misleading viewers to believe all these mechanics are in the standard G90s when they are not. Horrible misleading review here.
@xsej4223
@xsej4223 10 ай бұрын
​@@WrestlingErnestHemingway. Yes.. check out his review about mazda cx 90.. it was horrible. Im going ti unsubscribe to his channel and i think his videos are all about youtube. Hes so biased as if he knows the future of all cars.
@mattsilg
@mattsilg 5 ай бұрын
I think that despite its flaws, Genesis is really trying their best. The Motortrend review for CoTY makes lots of valid points about how this car is truly industry-leading. Your criticisms are valid though, but I have hope about them. Motortrend mentioned that they feel as if their feedback on their previous G90 reviews was noted and worked on, so I’m optimistic that they actively listen to the reviewers out here. I think that Genesis is on the right track to becoming an established brand in the segment, pulling off a Lexus-esque stunt. Hoping this continues.
@antcantcook960
@antcantcook960 4 ай бұрын
“trying”😂
@mattsilg
@mattsilg 4 ай бұрын
@@antcantcook960 looks like my whole point flew over your head bozo
@jburnes41
@jburnes41 9 ай бұрын
until they fix their engine problems, I wont even think about these cars
@captiantim1
@captiantim1 10 ай бұрын
My 1983 Renault alliance was car of the year in 1983 😂
@finarfin9939
@finarfin9939 10 ай бұрын
If only we could get the Genesis design team work with Lexus engineering team, we could have something special come out of this.
@mottom2657
@mottom2657 10 ай бұрын
Agree!
@carloscontreras3633
@carloscontreras3633 10 ай бұрын
Do they have special engineering knowledge?
@joec.5009
@joec.5009 10 ай бұрын
genesis passed lexus already in all facets. just go drive and compare between them. there's not 1 lexus model that is better than genesis counterpart.
@Leebs
@Leebs 9 ай бұрын
​@@joec.5009thanks for the laughs this morning 👍😊
@jasonmurdoch9936
@jasonmurdoch9936 9 ай бұрын
Yeah but used all the parts from Toyota / Lexus
@jejalerhou
@jejalerhou 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic review! If possible, would you consider reviewing the Volkswagen Golf(specifically the GTI) in the future? Thanks again for the vid
@ThatGuy-kv1kw
@ThatGuy-kv1kw 9 ай бұрын
you are very a very detailed man, you are the only person to say Lexus lost it's opulence, agreed
@MrBlvdman
@MrBlvdman 9 ай бұрын
BROOO, this is a sign. Ive seen a few Genesis cars out on the road, those cars DEMAND glances. Beautiful and lowkey luxary. Edit: This video was soo timely
@jugg1100
@jugg1100 9 ай бұрын
Well we have a GV 80 and pound for pound it's just as good as the top 3's luxury SUV's ! Plus you get a 10 year power train warranty!! We actually bought the extended warranty package that covers 100% of the vehicle for 120,000 miles for 2500 extra ! Try getting that with any of the others ....😊
@user-handlethetruth
@user-handlethetruth 9 ай бұрын
I have a 2010 Hyundai Genesis, with port injection, a V6 engine, and it has been unbelievably reliable. Though direct injection would have improved power and fuel mileage, I am glad that my car doesn't have it. I like not having to worry about the carbon build up. I could not stand the original suspension, and put the ARK aftermarket (made by Hyundai) suspension that lowered the car by an inch. The original suspensions wallowed too much for me. After 176,000 miles, I have had a window regulator fail on the left rear door, the door locks on the left side both had to be replaced because they would not work in hot weather. I have replaced the front brakes only once at 100,000 miles. TPMS sensor went bad, not in the tire sensors, rather the computer that receives the TPMS signaling. That was about $350 at the dealer. Oil and filter changes every 7500 to 10,000 miles with full synthetic. I have no oil leaks, still have the original air conditioner with original charge. Spark plugs at 100K miles, and transmission fluid replacement every 60K miles. Based on this car, I would buy a Genesis again, but now, after watching this review, I may buy another used low mileage older Genesis. I fear the complications of the new Hyundai designs. I love the Car Care Nut, and watch all his videos, and I know he is calling it as he sees it, but there is no question that he is biased for Toyota designs, though he gave a positive review for the Mazda CX-5. He clearly doesn't not like the Hyundai/Kia hybrid system. He clearly doesn't like cars with only direct fuel injection (Neither do I), and he doesn't like there to be be too many belts that need to be replaced. Can't blame him there. If I lived close to him, and owned a toyota product, I would definitely wait in line to have him service the vehicle.
@benjamindas0440
@benjamindas0440 5 ай бұрын
The design of genesis is beautiful...in every segment they have a car...they look beautiful
@jmalljmall
@jmalljmall 23 күн бұрын
This car reminds me of the Phaeton. Simply an underdog legend. True class.
@edlorenz1552
@edlorenz1552 10 ай бұрын
These are the best reviews on KZbin. Keep up the great work. I love the detailed and informative content.
@WrestlingErnestHemingway
@WrestlingErnestHemingway 10 ай бұрын
Wrong. He forgot to put in the title this is not the regular G90 and this is the "Electiified" version. Misleading the engine components are 100$ different that the standard G90s.
@jeremiahhall2281
@jeremiahhall2281 10 ай бұрын
Your critiques are spot on when it comes to vehicles!!!! Thank you for the facts, and not just jumping on any band wagon.
@GlennLaycock
@GlennLaycock 9 ай бұрын
Chrysler was going to 48 volts and it was a pretty good sounding idea - the good news - there goes the alternator but instead you get - I think is it a generator at works in both directions - charge and boost power. It works well BUT my reading is that that alternators came along as generators were very expensive.
@philipparana9225
@philipparana9225 9 ай бұрын
A generator that works in both directions? Soo an alternator.
@GlennLaycock
@GlennLaycock 9 ай бұрын
@@philipparana9225 Alternators (AC vs DC); but alternators are smaller, simpler, more efficient for reason someone else might have to answer. My impression was that AC is "not ideal" but it was far less expensive and smaller.
@MadHolms
@MadHolms 9 ай бұрын
good review. hopefully, you can ьake one for a 2022 MB S-Class. thx!
@RelaxAndChillNow
@RelaxAndChillNow 10 ай бұрын
QA to a next level. I don’t they will ever make a car that’s perfect for this guy. 😂 I do appreciate the videos. I would like to know what his top 5 cars to own.
@xsej4223
@xsej4223 10 ай бұрын
Lexus and toyota😂
@antcantcook960
@antcantcook960 4 ай бұрын
There are no perfect cars unless you have a childlike viewpoint of reality.
@gormanwpjr
@gormanwpjr 9 ай бұрын
Have you reviewed the 2018 Genesis G90 Ultimate 5.0 V8 two wheel drive? If so, what major problems should I expect in the next 50K miles? I just bought one with 50K miles in seemingly like new condition. I did not want the V6 Turbo and AWD so as to hopefully have fewer major problems.
@MrT-nh6di
@MrT-nh6di 9 ай бұрын
I own a 2017 Genesis G90 5.0 Htrac Ultimate, love driving it. Lowers my blood pressure everytime I start it up. The 5.0 Tau engine is a beast, this engine will easily do 500k miles with rountine service. Just make sure you change the oil every 5000 miles rotate the tires as well. Check your owners manual for every other fluid that needs to be changed. I change my own engine air filters, two of them every 30k miles, the cabin filter behind the glove compartment as well. Keep your oil topped up by checking it every 1000 to 2000 miles it takes 5w20 quaker state. I use full Synthetic Oil, runs beautifully. I am never selling mines, Hyundai/Genesis stop producing their naturally aspirated v8 engines. On a long stretch of straight smooth road I've had mines up to 140MPH could not hear any outside noise, moving like a jet on the road.
@gormanwpjr
@gormanwpjr 9 ай бұрын
@@MrT-nh6di - I agree. I hate to get out of my 2018 G90. I absolutely love it. smooth quiet powerful luxurious and a pleasure to drive. And looks impressive too! Thanks for the information. The best bang for the buck I could find. I wanted the weight (almost 5,000 lbs.) and long wheelbase (124") for the smooth ride. And yes, the 2023 G90 no longer is available with the V8 and too complicated with the twin turbo and 48V supercharger.
@kevinhearts616
@kevinhearts616 10 ай бұрын
been waitin for this bt lets wait and see if they will improve in the facelift
@edwardrodgers9383
@edwardrodgers9383 9 ай бұрын
Very informative!🤺
@raycollington4310
@raycollington4310 10 ай бұрын
Six figures for a Genesis, you're having a laugh. Great technical assessment, thank you as ever.
@p6102zrfxe
@p6102zrfxe 10 ай бұрын
Great video. I watched 39 minutes that beautiful Lexus on the lift.
@ericj4774
@ericj4774 9 ай бұрын
Genesis is amazing
@sloppyfresh
@sloppyfresh 10 ай бұрын
May the lord bless and keep you too!
@blankjo9113
@blankjo9113 9 ай бұрын
You won't see it with Sonata but when Hyundai sold Azura they had the most comfortable ride and not so good responsibility. It's a Korean luxury car culture and I don't think Hyundai will ever give up on soft ride. Perfect for people who drive for long periods of time or has a chaffeur.
@dennythedavinchi3832
@dennythedavinchi3832 8 ай бұрын
The thing is, they got so many tech. from BMW designer since last decade to create Genesis brand and some are complaining Genesis can't make smooth ride like Mercedes cause the gene is from BMW. So, neither can't be a smooth ride or exotic ride. But, many reviewers give good scores on Genesis vehicle ride, so it depends on personal preference
@rawiyahsphere
@rawiyahsphere 8 ай бұрын
I'm getting this car. CLAIM IT!
@MT-fw8hs
@MT-fw8hs 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for another great review. However, I feel you have some bias towards other brands other then Toyota and Lexus. Yes Toyota and Lexus are very nice reliable cars but I don’t think the other brands are far off the cliff. I have not seen one review where you recommend any car besides Toyota and Lexus. Let me know if I’m wrong
@tonysterbenc
@tonysterbenc 6 ай бұрын
He's recommended Hondas.
@billkallas1762
@billkallas1762 10 ай бұрын
The "cheaper" version of the G90 doesn't have the E-supercharger. Just the 3.5TT. It also doesn't have the big 48V battery taking up space.
@WrestlingErnestHemingway
@WrestlingErnestHemingway 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. This KZbin reviewer FAILS to point out in his title this in the Electrified version. It's a bit misleading when the standard G90 inside motor mechanics are 100% different motor build from this one here he is reviewing. Misleading bogus title on this one that he should change as being Electrified version. Smh. Stupid KZbin's and their misleading titles of BS.
@jaykim6539
@jaykim6539 10 ай бұрын
Thank for criticizing this. I definitely go get one of these when they price comes down.
@cruiser6260
@cruiser6260 8 ай бұрын
So what is charging the 48v batt? The E supercharger is also the alternator, or it has a seperate alternator? He didn't mention regenerative braking and that would be the only thing to make it worthwhile. I can't see the point of the weight of the batt, electric motor and belt just to lose a starter motor and 12v batt.. have so much drag on engine and a bit of extra throttle response.
@jimbike8064
@jimbike8064 9 ай бұрын
Nice review. I'll take 2.
@merveilmeok2416
@merveilmeok2416 10 ай бұрын
Impressive car, impressive review, Sir.
@tdgdbs1
@tdgdbs1 10 ай бұрын
Never trust any magazines, all of them blasted the Mitsubishi Mirage and the Toyota Yaris. I owned both and are reaching 200K problem free miles. They gave bad review on the Toyota Prius C too, while most owners have different views.
@pedrofernandez8729
@pedrofernandez8729 10 ай бұрын
I bought a 1980 GM X car based on the glowing reviews that appeared on all those car mags. Never picked one up to read after that fiasco.
@anrewagdy9738
@anrewagdy9738 9 ай бұрын
Can you please do a video reviewing The New 2023 Honda Pilot TrailSport from a well-experienced mechanic point of view. I trust your videos, reviews, opinions, & suggestions. Thank you, and God bless you.
@Edison73100
@Edison73100 9 ай бұрын
Excellent review.
@user-ys7gb5fu9h
@user-ys7gb5fu9h 8 ай бұрын
I freaking think this is the coolest looking sedan ever…Hyundai has come a long way since the little Pony / Excel. I agree with many points but one he didn’t point out is lack of dedicated dealerships and most Hyundai mechanics who fix Sonatas are going to be lost with the complexity of this vehicle.
@NGC-gu6dz
@NGC-gu6dz 10 ай бұрын
On the surface, this is a very nice car. That is about the only good thing I can say about these.
@ronbatt756
@ronbatt756 10 ай бұрын
I'm sure this car would make it's driver feel good. Taking care of it after tens of thousands of miles will probably make the driver feel poor.
@johnm7882
@johnm7882 10 ай бұрын
Love this kind of video 🙂 You did an excellent job covering lots and lots of things most KZbin reviewers just glaze over. Your leaps and bounds over what most consider a great KZbin reviewer.
@WrestlingErnestHemingway
@WrestlingErnestHemingway 10 ай бұрын
This is because most KZbinrs are reviewing the standard model of the G90 and not this Electrified version forgot to insert into the title of this video. EVERYTHING he talks about here regarding the build & mechanics is 100% BOGUS because this is NOT the standard G90 build.
@jeffwolf8018
@jeffwolf8018 9 ай бұрын
Is there a way you can go into your computer of the car and override that turn on off at the stop lights or extended stopped in traffic? As a few of us know 80% of the vehicles damage done on the interior of the engine (camshaft where engine bearing wear piston slap all kinds of fun stuff) is done upon Start up.
@vultureguy33
@vultureguy33 8 ай бұрын
My understanding is the stop start startup is not the same as a normal startup and thus doesn't cause the same kind of wear. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Despite that, I hate the start stop thing with a passion and refuse to drive any car with that "feature" if I have the option of a car that doesn't have it. And yes I understand that some cars let you turn it off but it often resets each time you start the car.
@jeffwolf8018
@jeffwolf8018 8 ай бұрын
@@vultureguy33 using the starter that often and in trying to say it's not excessive wear and tear on the starter is an absurd statement?? And the oil isn't able to get to all the parts of the engine if the engine is continuously running. I'm referring to the oil in the cylinders so that the piston rings don't fry up?
@vultureguy33
@vultureguy33 8 ай бұрын
@jeffwolf8018 I remember reading that the starting mechanism for start stop is different. Someone in these comments is saying it only fires on the next spark plug in line or something.
@kennyshepherd8311
@kennyshepherd8311 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the review!
@phaseglobalradiocom9677
@phaseglobalradiocom9677 10 ай бұрын
Great views! Can you please review some VW or Audi models, I know that plenty of people would be very keen that have your excellent reviews dive deep into the world of Volkswagen Group of cars!
@wholeNwon
@wholeNwon 10 ай бұрын
Funny
@TommyG11814
@TommyG11814 10 ай бұрын
Great looking car for sure.
@lewisstafrace7622
@lewisstafrace7622 9 ай бұрын
Good afternoon, my daughter is looking to buy a used Toyota AWD SUV. Do you have any suggestions on what we should look for in a used SUV or what to stay away from. Thank you PS. I love watching your videos Regards Lewis Stafrace From Toronto Canada
@seanstewart285
@seanstewart285 9 ай бұрын
They can definitely make the door open on their own. The BMW i7 does it using-I believe-similar sensors to the park distance control ones.
@lowlanz
@lowlanz 8 ай бұрын
Yes but only for the rear seats isn't it? This one has all four seats closing automatically.
@papagen00
@papagen00 10 ай бұрын
My 2005 Jaguar XJ8L has a naturally aspirated V8 and 30 highway MPG due to its lightweight aluminium body. Very reliable too! Only had to replace air struts and alternator.
@JohnLee-db9zt
@JohnLee-db9zt 9 ай бұрын
Then you have an extremely RARE reliable Jaguar. 😂
@Rickbearcat
@Rickbearcat 9 ай бұрын
I absolutely love my 2010 XF Supercharged. Owned for 5 years and only had to repair the window regulator. Albet it cost $1,000 for that.
@attananightshadow
@attananightshadow 9 ай бұрын
My aunt had an early 2000s (think 2003) XK from new and it was a monumental pile of crap. Glad you won the coin toss.
@bigmacdaddy1234
@bigmacdaddy1234 9 ай бұрын
@@JohnLee-db9zt Then you don't know much about Jaguar. The brand has been very reliable since 1995 and forward.
@tonysterbenc
@tonysterbenc 6 ай бұрын
@@bigmacdaddy1234 Not what the stats say.
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