HOW'S THE QUALITY OF 2023 GENESIS G90? WHY IS THE PAINT 3X THICKER THAN OTHER LUXURY BRANDS?

Automotive Engineer David Chao was shocked to find out that the paint thickness of the Genesis G90 is 3X that of other luxury models - obviously thicker the paint, the more durable over time so it's a good thing. David conducts a full quality audit of the all-new Genesis G90 in this video. In addition, David checks the fit-and-finish of the interior and then evaluates the driving character of the G90.
Automotive Press is owned and managed by David Koichi Chao, a global expert in the field of automotive evaluation, engineering, and strategy. With over 35 years of engineering experience, David is able to review vehicles from unique perspectives utilizing technical and specialized methods. David is a board member and a director at AJAC (Automobile Journalist Association of Canada).
David is known around the world as an authentic specialist of Lean/Agile Thinking, and travels all around the world to review vehicles and teach latest engineering methods. Born and raised in Japan, David has an engineering degree from University of British Columbia and post-graduate education from MIT and Harvard Business School in Boston.

[@carollhote5689]

We owned an Equus when they were introduced (traded in our BMW 750LI). Following the Equus, we purchased a 2017 Genesis G90. In fact, our son now owns our 2017 G90 and we took delivery of our 2023 G90 with the 409 hp. engine which is an absolute dream machine. We like Genesis products very much.

[@allongtin1243]

I bought a G90 a few years ago after driving 750 BMW for years. The G90 was an incredible value/quality quotient and I still love driving it. Will more than likely buy a new one.

[@TwoHawksHunting]

When the Lexus LS 400 was first launched in 1989, it was a game changer. The Germans were shocked. They were forced to step up their game. Now the Genius G-90 is the game changer that, hopefully , will cause Lexus to step up their game. Lexus must adapt, improvise, and innovate or get left further in the dust. Right now, the Genius G90 is very appealing.

[@Joqg2tf-2843]

I remember back in the mid 80s when Lexus first came out, people made fun of it saying “it’s a toyota!” I’m really impressed how far Hyundai has come and will go. When I worked Toyota corporate back in mid 90s Toyota management already was more worried about Hyundai as a competitor more than US or European competitors.

[@MrGeezil]

At the moment I don’t think anyone is laughing anymore lol. You can compare Lexus models to Genesis and you can confirm Genesis are putting out nicer cars. Lexus may have an edge in reliability though.

[@dtna]

TMC R&D in Gardena wasn't worried. They did a tear down and saw many fit & finish problems. Maybe TMS Service was worried, but I don't know why. They would send out TSBs before they became a problem. And they considered Hyundais to be disposable cars.

[@mackfar27]

@@dtnaCool story.

[@bonjournaste]

it seems trunklid light on right side has very poor alignment. Left side seems good. Perhaps just the angle of camera?

[@Fabulousprofound168]

3:20 does anyone else see the trunk lid misalignment I think I’m seeing here?

[@valserrie2122]

I just bought one. I traded in my Mercedes S550, and I love the G90 so far. I keep inventing reasons to go out and drive the car. Its a bigger car than the S550. It's more similar to a Rolls Royce or the bigger Bentley, than to a Benz S Class. In my area there are a lot of S Class Benzes, but very few G90s, and although the Genesis vehicles are becoming very popular, it's mostly the SUVs, so these are rare to see, and have great road presence. I love it!

[@simonlangmead7]

Like buying a used Lexus, this Genesis is a car you can feel comfortable buying used without it becoming a money pit like the German cars will be after the lease has expired. When the Genesis was a Hyundai model, you see comments from owners who have huge mileage on them and still going strong. Their V-6 and V-8 engines have proved to be long lasting.

[@kashifrasheed2187]

Excellent video you always share nice information

[@faheemabbas3965]

Like what Jimmy Amico in the comments said, it’s a nice brand in terms of quality, but reliability is another thing. Give it 15 years minimum and see what happens. Will it ever be as good as the Lexus LS in terms of reliability?

[@faheemabbas3965]

@@naveenthemachine never, but in terms of reliability I don’t think so.

[@nomadenview]

But at least not like BMW.....

[@jimmyamico4713]

Hi David, Genesis is a very nice brand. The car that you showed is beautiful the two things that I am not crazy about is the exterior styling and I have no idea on what these vehicles will be like as far as reliability and dependability because they’re pretty new in design and manufacturing , I’m going to stick with what is built in the Tahara factory in the Motomachi factory because reliability and dependability is the most important thing to me and I feel that the Japanese give me that and in my opinion I think they are the best in the world at manufacturing SUVs sedans, coops and trucks… 🇯🇵🌎❤️🤍Great job David…. Respectfully, JimmyUSAF ✈️🇺🇸☮️✝️💜🙏🐈‍⬛🐈‍⬛🐈‍⬛🐕😇⭐️

[@MrGeezil]

I own a 2020 G90. No issues and after 70k the interior looks like brand new. It’s all about taking care of your car. The G90 got more presence than the Lexus #facts.

[@ravipeiris4388]

Their reliability has been good, especially at the 5 year mark as Genesis has been here in the U.S. market since 2017 when it came into it's own name brand. Compare to the BMW, Mercedes, etc., those cars can't compare. Lexus is good but had issues with their LS 460 models from 2009-2012.

[@merveilmeok2416]

This video gives me a course of culture. Thanks👏👍

[@rightlanehog3151]

David, It looks cold out there!

[@froxtrotuniform]

From German brands switching over to Korean brand is easy but from Lexus to Genesis must be hard. I owned 2010 MB S550 i got lucky its fairly reliable but the dealership experience break it for me. I love to test drive Genesis

[@bernardwuttke]

Reading lots of reviewers are not impressed with the leather seats...and Genesis forums with existing owners are saying premature wear on seats.

[@MrGeezil]

Are you sure ? Now i may have to post a video of the 20 G90 interior with 70k miles on it lol.

[@MrGeezil]

If you can send me the link on the genesis forum that will be great?

[@user-ky4ne7kg9x]

The doors on this car take a few weeks to get used to, BUT, once you are used to the doors every other car feels lacking. Every car should have these doors, especially the feature to tap the brake and the driver door closes. The quality of the car and ride are unbelievable, and the 10yr 100k warranty is amazing (costs and extra 2,500), but what makes the G90 substantially better than every other luxury car on the market is the doors. Yes, it does look better than all the other luxury cars right now, but the thing that ruins every other car is when you get used to the doors. Every other car feels cheap after you get used to the G90.... well.. a Maybach is still better, but that is in a whole different class and requires a driver.

[@kinglasher84]

Let’s see it get to 200k miles now.

[@kinglasher84]

@@naveenthemachine I feel like Lexus buyers do at least. In the 80s and 90s reliability and longevity was the reason to buy Mercedes.

[@joec.5009]

most lead designers are koreans. they brought albert, luc and etc to make a splash. they are the icing, but not the cake. very smart way to enhance the brand if you ask me. what do i know, i'm just one of the designer.

[@Real_British]

Good analysis david, Now..i hope we could get a chance to compare that with the Toyota Century

[@jonathanratliff4780]

David what is the thickness typically of the paint of a RR or Bentley? Is a Maybach paint thicker than a regular Mercedes?

[@aross924]

That car is stunning.

[@bonjournaste]

front end treatment/grille is a bit gaudy to my taste, but the C-pillar, trunk (whole rear 3/4 view really) is gorgeous. Really exaggerates that stretched out profile!

[@user-pp2cj7rx7c]

Very nice ❤

[@avocado9763]

Excellent

[@filup7419]

Those wheels would be a nightmare to clean. They look cool but I’d hate to try to keep those clean.

[@user-cz1rc4ej5o]

Amazing good ❤❤

[@CarltonAtkinson-kj8xw]

Best thing is the Warranty, standing behind their product.

[@bohan9957]

Genesis dealers are so far few in between, if I were to buy one of these I will have to service it at the local Hyundai dealer. Can you imagine that? Driving a 100K+ vehicle and have it serviced at your local Hyundai dealer for warranty work. LOL.

[@MrGeezil]

Don’t have to even take ya car in. They lick it up and leave you with a loaner. And there are like 6 already stand alone Genesis dealers. There are gonna add like 94 more in the 2 yrs.

[@Genny_Woo]

I love my Genesis coupe

[@johnpaul5438]

i prefer lexus ls 500

[@joec.5009]

LS lost its luster. it's painfully boring and doesn't have that flagship presence. that's just me. i used love LS back then, but lexus just can't get LS right. it's probably the ugly grill.

[@danilobadua7775]

I used to like Lexus but the design nowadays of all Lexus vehicle are some of the ugliest in the planet, they ought to get rid of the whole design team. Just see how gorgeously stunning the concept Cadillac Scala and Lincoln Continental cars are.

[@rocker9951]

Mazda’s in-line 6 in this car would be amazing.😮

[@MrGeezil]

I guess now Mazda produce the most luxurious cars 😂😂😂😂.

[@Just-a-guy926]

the G90 is a beautiful sedan.

[@ottbee6976]

The inside is not to my taste. The two up-turn details of the center console is bizarre. I'm not certain if a European designer would do something like that. The colour choice is also a little off; that brown colour is kinda weird. I hope it looks better in real life. No mistaking it for a Bentley, no.

[@user-hx7dn4pv7h]

Good

[@Johnny_Bee]

I’m looking forward to the new GV80 Coupe

[@sorcererstone3303]

@1:19, David said Hyundai played around with the design and have a clamshell design for its hood. That way, the gap between the hood and the rest of the body is sort of tucks away and becomes less visible. So causal on looker has a false sense of higher quality in the vehicle manufacturing. I noticed this design trick shows up in the newly release Lexus GX as well.

[@ericsivilla4091]

In my opinion Genesis cars look amazing as far as design. The styling, interior, lights, the front grille. Just beautiful. My concern is with the reliability of the engine, and electrical system. Consumer reports is not recommending Genesis. As far as personal experience. I have been reluctant to buy one , but I gave friends that have Hyundai and Genesis and have had issues, specially with Hyundai as bad as blown engines. I know the first Genesis with the V8 is a Tank, and if taken care of. It can last forever.

[@mackfar27]

I owned a 2015 Hyundai Genesis 5.0 and now a 2018 G80 5.0 HTRAC. The V8 engines are VERY powerful and durable.

[@user-zq2ph9qh3g]

Nice car❤

[@basilakasheh9775]

I would love to see the thickness of the paint of a rolls Royce with 50 kg of paint

[@iqraahmad86]

Good car

[@daviddabo2682]

Hyundai/Kia not known for reliability/quality, going the german way make me more skeptical down the road, my friend Genesis ($55K) 4Years burns oil like no tomorrow. It was the best bang for the Buck now he wanders if he got screwed! looks nice though!

[@justinadejobi5043]

That doesn't sound right, these cars come with 5/10yr powertrain warranty in Canada and the US respectively. If it's 4yrs as you said it will be replaced under warranty, except he's gone above 100k miles.

[@TVseriesfangirl]

😮😮😮😮

[@HDHQDIRECT]

Kia, Hyundai and Genesis keep getting better and better and better. The haters can't stand it.

[@kool6123]

Interior and exterior designs are getting better but liability and durability cannot follow Toyota.

[@mackfar27]

@@kool6123Oh, but you’re so wrong in that statement. Other mechanics have acknowledged the gap between Toyota and Hyundai is neck to neck at this point. People like you are just simply stuck in the past.

[@kool6123]

@@mackfar27 I might be stuck in the past. However, Toyota still ranks high in various statistics and surveys like Used car resale value, Vehicle reliability ect. There must be reasons why Toyota is in the top ranks of such statistics and surveys.

[@Fred-F4]

tick color layer might be because of lower quality of their color

[@AtifKhan-fw5jd]

Buteful white car

[@arolfghhfc]

00:50 that's the fatal flaw

[@jhonysmith2628]

English block made from high plastic ?

[@daved7024]

Nice looking car. Unfortunately South Korea is incapable of making a reliable engine and transmission. Thanks for the tour David. 😊👍

[@HDHQDIRECT]

The 2010 Hyundai Elantra my daughter is driving would prove you wrong. 90k miles so far on just oil changes and tires.

[@simonlangmead7]

I’ve seen a 4 cylinder Hyundai Sonata with over 200,000 miles 300,000K on it and still going strong.

[@dxt0301]

I hate the grill. Just too massive - it looks out of place. It looks "normal" on the GV, though.

[@bobb.7899]

Do you like the predator grill on a Lexus?😊

[@dxt0301]

@@bobb.7899 No, I hate it almost as much.

[@danilobadua7775]

@@dxt0301 How about the monstrously huge grill of the new BMW 760i?

[@dxt0301]

@@danilobadua7775 The ugliest!

[@arolfghhfc]

my scion is more reliable

[@Eugen-E]

Thicker paint doesn't mean better quality.

[@jdm1039]

Eugen E - I guess you didn't watch the video or did not listen. Or do you just disagree with what the reviewer said because you do not like it?

[@joec.5009]

that's what she said

[@Eugen-E]

@@naveenthemachine I didn't say that. I said thicker paint doesn't mean better paint quality. And by the way, toyota doesn't have the thinnest paint. Have seen Mercedes models 2x the price of a toyota that have the same paint thickness as a Yaris.

[@lexusdelivery8508]

It’s still a Hyundai

[@joec.5009]

fanboism sucks 💩

[@kyle223cat]

Lexus is still a Toyota.

[@danilobadua7775]

Damn man, lexus are some of the ugliest vehicle on the planet, it be a shame to die on one. Just kidding. Lexus are...ugly, that's all.