The Genetic Apocalypse

[@Impervious14]

All those movies were a warning. The standards in everything have gone insane, ranging from dating to jobs. You need to be a literal superman and even then it's not sure that you're going through.

[@MartymcFly-zz2pg]

Be black and lesbian

[@helmeteye]

Read Brave New World. All of this has already been thought of. Then there is 1984. As far as movies go, watch the old movie Metropolis. That movie is probably a hundred years old and it is still good and current.

[@shrekdonkey9027]

Early stages of collapse. The roi is getting worse every year

[@DutchThriceman]

I don't even care about dating anymore, I can literally barely survive on my own let alone care for another human being.

[@NelsonStJames]

One branch of good science fiction has always been an educated extrapolation of current technology’s effects on mankind into the future, and it’s funny how many of these movies have pretty much taken it as a given that as technology widens the gap between the haves and have nots the elite will separate from the masses and take their wealth with them. Altered Carbon and Battle Angel Alita were two others just to name a few. But the even more interesting thing is that though you have those who clearly see the dangers of it, if you look at society as a whole, those able to take advantage of it, or feel that this technology helps them have no problem in utilizing it at all.

[@garchamp9844]

I hated that movie. Vincent had ‘bad genes’, but they were hidden and he was in reality hyper attractive and competent at everything. Had he had truly bad genes, the movie would have been 90 minutes of everyone kicking him around while pointing and laughing, and he would have gotten absolutely no maidens. Kind of like how bad genes already works today.

[@aussiewanderer6304]

That's probably more likely Hollywood. They know nobody is going to see a movie about a fat and ugly guy doing something and getting together with an average looking woman. They do this with biographic movies. The Beach Boys TV movie made out they were all good looking guys, but they were in no way as attractive as the actors playing them.

[@someguycalledcerberus9805]

It did have one good line, which I think may have been intended to be the unreasonable position, but in fact is 100% correct. Paraphrasing here, the boss is asked what if someone with inferior genes passes the tests to be employed in his company and proceeds to perform to exemplary standards. Then the boss says "Clearly then, there were no problems with his abilities. The abilities were simply incorrectly assessed." The whole message of the movie is to discriminate based on personality and actual performance instead of discriminating based on genes. Not realizing that performance and personality _are_ genes.

[@ManlyTear]

Sounds like how many anime approach the whole "lonely unpopular guy or girl (usually guy tho) that has no particular talents or is particularly good looking, meets the manic pixie dream girl and that changes his life for the better and he starts socializing, bla bla" . In truth, it's often more of a "he is in fact quite talented at this or that but ppl just haven't recognized it yet while this one very attractive girl has". Either that, or it just makes the most popular girl in school fall for him for no reason other than "he sees the real her." or some dumb BS like that. Even as an anime enthusiast, I'm so sick of that fallacy ~ it gives birth to some of the fakest hopium which in turns breeds more simps the twitch thots thrive on.

[@mattca353]

We are already there. Look at the ratio of males below 30 that had little to no sex while the females only look at the top 5% of males.

[@hebanker3372]

We can always grape them, you know...

[@chickenonaraft508]

Top 1%

[@summerwinter89]

@@hebanker3372 this is what no one talks about.

[@hebanker3372]

@@summerwinter89 Too bad, I say. If women are so happy to have most of us removed from the genetic pool, we can always resolve to that.

[@stephenbanks5860]

It's okay, I don't look at them either.

[@SirAuron777]

In the near future, if your baby isn’t a designer baby, it will be a resigner baby

[@nosphosferaoneeyedcat701]

Time to invest into dumpsters....

[@TravisArthurParishT.A.P]

Based!!!

[@autism1151]

​@@TravisArthurParishT.A.Pwhat's based about it?

[@autism1151]

​@@TravisArthurParishT.A.Pcuckold

[@autism1151]

​@@TravisArthurParishT.A.Pnot surprising you advocate for eugenics, if i had a micro like yours i would hate myself too

[@GnomeWagon]

Like all real problems, it won't be talked about until it's over. My hope, as ever, is that even the elites can't plan for a random chaos event.

[@shrekdonkey9027]

Truth. We are reactive not proactive hence why every empire in the past failed and failed fast during its final years

[@dariustakeda1609]

Take a look on black swan events: not even the elites can plan for it. There are some events that, by an epistemological pov, are unknown and can't be seen by mankind. And events generally are the most important ones. But the fact can't be seen doesn't mean that you can't be more prepared for it's i mean, is better to have millions on the bank account to deal with unknown problems than having none. So despite elite not knowing, than can react better than the plebeians.

[@dariustakeda1609]

Take a look on black swan events: they are unpredictable by definition, not mattering where do you come from.

[@poetsguide]

Elites, like everyone else, are human and prone to mistakes. However, their errors often have a broader impact and can be more costly for humanity as a whole.

[@df6597]

​@shrekdonkey9027 The furthest forward anyone looks is maybe their own offspring, their relatively short-term legacy. Unless there's a major ideological shift toward thinking about the future of your neighbors, your region, our species as a whole, our world and how we interact with it, then we'll just keep getting what we have or similar variations that we've had before. I don't expect that to ever happen, but I do wonder what it would take to bring that kind of idealogy about. What would have to happen to encourage or force humons to decide to work together for a long period of time for the whole (hundreds to thousands of years)?

[@jonathanmitchell9886]

If you're ugly and disadvantaged to begin with, things cease to get worse after a certain point. You're already dwelling underground like a mole and you can't go any lower than that, no matter how objectively awful the world at large is becoming. A lot of people are going to find it difficult to live in survival mode; they're not accustomed to doing without. For others, it's already second nature.

[@LOUDMOUTHTYRONE]

Feudal society based on genetic success.

[@erics3101]

Nothing new, no?

[@marecare77]

Its called eugenics and has been going on a long time.

[@ireneuszpyc6684]

if you're far beneath the elite - the elite does not need you at all - you're worthless - it's like you don't exist

[@RealistRatRace]

Sounds like how life works

[@Thabang-st4bw]

You mean imbred royals?

[@afterthecrumble1117]

The problem with DNA editing is that we have no clue what to select for. As Yogi Berra said, it’s hard to make predictions, especially about the future. You might end up with an army of tall supermen, and then find out that an ice age is coming and the smallest people are more likely to survive since they need less food…

[@dariustakeda1609]

Meanwhile all small man today faces a reproductive winter and social exclusion... What are our options? Remain small in hope that this will somehow help with the natural selection? Really?

[@bishopofeternity48]

They'll probably bring Africa medicinal "advancements" all the while messing with random genes to see what happens, and work from there. No one of any importance will care.

[@lukewilson624]

@@JesterMax24 Women don't select for intelligence though. Crumble does have a good point here.

[@Zenden1ST]

​@@JesterMax24yeah select for Chads don't be the chud that had small children just because humanity genetic diversity when no one else was thinking such

[@MikJames-d1g]

I think we should start with finding the gene for people that watch 10 seconds of a yt vid and leave a comment repeating what the uploader says 🤔

[@yigarok]

There’s also the possibility of the elites manufacturing servant humans designed to fulfill the tasks the elites don’t want to do and to be obedient etc.

[@NineSeptims]

Robots can do undesirable work for them. But obedience built in to you at birth is definitely something they would do in a heartbeat. Being timid and submissive in the face of elites who are genetically authoritative is a nightmare.

[@Ropewatch]

@@NineSeptimsthis is actually fucked up

[@Blunthammer]

They already have. It's called a Communist.

[@TravisArthurParishT.A.P]

Thats why they want vvomen to breed with tall chads only. VVomen are naturally loyal to the system and high tier men would be catered to by the system thus supporting it.

[@rb98769]

It's too much of a hassle and an insanely expensive alternative to simply getting AI robots, which we already have the tech for. I think the scenario of a caste system of 1% supermen and 99% normies is more plausible.

[@ronbronb]

There's an Amazon tribe that leaves deformed babies in the forest and keeps only the healthy. Selective population isn't new and has been a must for most of humanity. What may be new is modern gluttonous civilization that allows anything with a heartbeat to survive and sometimes thrive.

[@dariustakeda1609]

Spartans did the same thing.

[@skylinefever]

The industrial revolution and its consequences include keeping the sick people alive long enough to breed sicker people.

[@InsanityRerun]

Bingo. People have demonized known methods for getting better quality people. IQs are falling and physical fitness at an all-time low, we know 40+ years of people are increasingly and exponentially inferior just to those born in the 80s or earlier. The people demonizing and fearing AI and genetic enhancements will be the future neanderthals or cro-magnon. We who accept will be forced to speak of all our current opposition in the past tense. Just look at how they hate on epigenetics when it will literally give us the closest thing to immortality we have ever managed to find in nature.

[@JesseThompson-ef2oc]

As a type 1 diabetic its just cruel to keep someone alive that has no chance. All your doing is just dropping a ton of anxiety in that person. This world is hell on a healthy person.

[@davidm8394]

this was and is ironically more merciful than letting the child lve... the world is too harsh to allow a chld to be born with severe limitations

[@Don-Coyote-De-Transylvania]

Imagine one day in the future we will look at 2024 as a great period. Just horrific.

[@scottanos9981]

All because men forgot how to mate guard

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

the slience before the eruption...

[@playpal9950]

Children are the new designer handbag or luxury SUV specifically designed to publicize their social, or in this case genetic, superiority.

[@skylinefever]

Whenever I see a "childfree is selfish" argument, I say "Praise the altruism of the people who breed instagram props."

[@jkfd97]

Children have been accessories ever since women have had rights.

[@NoidoDev]

The family which has been mentioned, is optimizing for having many children, not some superhumans. Just watch the videos, Based Camp.

[@idrathernot_2]

Welcome to Costco I love you

[@dazzaspc]

God damn it, that’s disturbing like a dozen years later. Wow. That comment was like a gut punch.

[@notreallyafamousartist695]

@@dazzaspcwdym?

[@kanedakent3880]

The movie Idiocracy he’s referencing

[@Krelian4400]

I'll take Costco over Amazon, Google or Walmart.

[@vincentdimitri169]

I'm a base your ass on my FISTS, base ass, SHUT UP

[@colin1657]

They'll become their own species. Their own species outnumbered by us 'little people.'

[@TeddyKrimsony]

but they would have advanced machines that will tip things in their favor

[@hebanker3372]

They will realize the Aryan race, which was how aristocrats of Iran and India viewed themselves against all others.

[@colin1657]

@@TeddyKrimsony Nothing that cutting the power and EMPs can't solve, to partially quote another user.

[@colin1657]

@@hebanker3372 It has always been about eugenics by a particular mindset.

[@Rhimeson]

@@TeddyKrimsony Munchkin vs machine

[@dustsky]

I can already hear it: 'What's your number, peasant?' Lord, help us!

[@hebanker3372]

''-We want information. Information. Information! -Who are you? -The new Number 2. -Who's Number 1? -You are Number 6. -I am not a number. I am a free man! -HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!''

[@Mazatzal]

"TK-FKU sir!"

[@SniperKingz]

I guess we'll all become morlocks then.

[@GwynTheGwyn]

Over for genecels

[@fatherno5721]

It shouldn't be that way bro. All living should have the right to live...as long as they don't actively try to fuck over someone else's life.

[@GwynTheGwyn]

@@fatherno5721 It shouldn’t be, but it’s just the way things are. No point in trying to fix things that can’t be fixed.

[@Tyler_Chudurden]

It never even began. Genetic lineage has fallen

[@urgandma]

​@@fatherno5721 you have the right to attempt to live. Let's hope you can compete against the ubermensch giga Chad designed in a lab.

[@rn5896]

о ні...

[@technologic21]

"Don't you see the danger, John, inherent in what you're doing here? Genetic engineering is the most powerful force the planet's ever seen, but you wield it like a kid who's found his dad's g-n. Your guys were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should." Ian Malcolm hit it out of the park.

[@wallahhabibiiii]

hit it out of the "jurassic" park even

[@RolandoRatas]

I really like Gattaca, it's one of my favourite Sci Fi movies but I've always felt that the character of Vincent with all his genetic 'defects' relative to his superior peers would never have got the beautiful alpha male seeking woman (Uma Thurman) and his dream job (an astronaut) given his disadvantages - now that's the 'fictional' part of this movie for sure - he never had a chance at acquiring those things due to the competition and it's more of a fantasy rather than straight Sci-Fi movie for that reason.

[@michaeldavid6832]

He wasn't a moron, he was only average. But someone with average intelligence can be more useful to society than highly intelligent people who are lazy and self-entitled.

[@erics3101]

And the fact that home schooled children are Sought out by these corporations/elites.

[@summerwinter89]

@@michaeldavid6832 broootal blackpill

[@bloodstripeleatherneck1941]

"alpha male seeking woman" You don't understand women.

[@otakubullfrog1665]

While genetic engineering will only be available to the wealthiest at first, advances in technology will bring it down to a level where the middle class can afford it. The elites could theoretically keep their advantage by halting further research so that the price of the technology never drops, but somebody will decide to sell out their own class because there's money to be made.

[@TheMaleRei]

Thank you Ewe-Toob with the blue bar of "helpful knowledge".

[@kaptainwarp]

Ewe tube go "baaaa"

[@rosswitte]

We will need genetic engineering for supersoldiers to fight the AI terminator droids.

[@summerwinter89]

ai > supersoldiers, droids can be built faster

[@Projectdarke]

*THE GOD EMPEROR OF MANKIND ENTERS THE CHAT*

[@lek8630]

ai defeat us much faster with bio weapon

[@xAudiolith]

AI will mess with infrastructure and athmospheric manipulation and we'll be done for overnight lmao

[@TheRealXMob]

We’ve seen the outcomes of AI already. It created a god complex for itself, and wanted humans to worship it.

[@sashavenka]

Genemaxxed 8 ft double edge katana sword sharp jaw gigachad^100e vs looksmaxxed 6'5 beta sharpjaw chud

[@CountDownToSerenity]

lmfao

[@summerwinter89]

goliath mogs gigchad

[@deleted01]

i don't even understand what i've just read but i upvoted anyway

[@Wylfinadi]

space marine vs imperial guard grunt

[@danxdanx8877]

Oh yeah, 6.5 ft square jaw CHAD will not be enough also, they will struggle too lol.

[@Tyranthraxus78]

If people decide to bring new life into this crazy world without its consent, the least they could do is maximize its genetic DNA. 😅

[@Kervath]

+1, I can't imagine not using that technology those 5-10 years later when I will probably/maybe/possibly look around for a woman (depends if I ever will), hope it's cheaper than more or less 250k I can spend on getting super-baby.

[@Zenden1ST]

​@@Kervath I kinda want to see if it's possible to use activism to give humans their monkey tails back

[@doomedbook1020]

Designer babies would simply disown their parents upon being capable of standing on their own two feet due to recognising their flaws early on?

[@skylinefever]

@@doomedbook1020 some say the designer will have a personality designed in.

[@MikJames-d1g]

Life will find a way regardless. The only question is, would you rather be a human...or an insect?

[@kevinlawler3252]

Despite the so called “elites” wealth.. or even just your typical over achievers successes.. the choices made in rearing by these sorts.. in my experience these people by and large still lack so much real world experience it is a real issue.. the safety net of said wealth and the soft lifestyles really do a number on an individuals views and understanding of how people and the real world work.. important survival mechanisms never get truly triggered.. no struggle, no sense of urgency is ever truly known. Learning to overcome and crawl and fight and reach down deep to push through to the other side.. I think the importance of this cannot be overstated. The lack of this in the general population is apparent. Knowing of life through this lens, through experience in those shoes: pushing through long days of hard manual labor, in all manner of weather.. through every season, blistering heat, the wind whipping you, the intense cold and the driving rain.. having held a shovel in my hand for hours digging, the use of a pick axe.. knowing how to take game and field dress it right there in the woods.. honing the skills to hunt and know your direction.. these baser instincts are dull without use.. they can be sharpened. In today’s environment it is a worthwhile endeavor to seek the traditional methods and experience them.

[@Tubeman777]

Well then that's the averaging mechanism towards the mean right there. Can't cheat nature. Watch the film Zardoz 1974

[@maxhank9314]

i just watched videos regarding how parents in south korea are treating their children with extreme restrictions and craming them through endless hours of studying one of the parent the mom who probably was a business women said 1) i want my child to be 6 ft tall 2) be athletic 3) bring good grades and the ability to pull women and she was laughing like its a joke their are people like this all over the world who just want their offspring to be superhuman so if someone actually achieved perfect genetic engineering it will be used or even abused

[@erics3101]

The Uber man propaganda we've experienced for many decades.

[@Mambo9000012]

@@erics3101 Why do you call it "propaganda"? Were you referring to the great man theory? As flawed as it is made out to be, it describes the world far more accurately than any environmental-factor focused, modern and socially acceptable philosophy.

[@Ropewatch]

@@erics3101fuck this uber man obsession. Just let people live and enjoy their lives

[@AnonymousAnonposter]

Good luck having healthy children only eating carbohydrates and goyslop

[@systemicsystems703]

Tell that to the Jehadist ​@@Ropewatch

[@easter_sunday]

The poke = genetic engineering

[@palaceofwisdom9448]

More like the poke = genetic demolition

[@ModelJames13]

Shouldn't those of us that haven't been poked be the cream of the crop? The pure bloods? The most in demand humans? 💪

[@easter_sunday]

@@ModelJames13 no, not for cybernetic neural links and enhancements

[@summerwinter89]

stardusk worried about being left behind. i wonder how many people in this comment section will even have kids?

[@sonicleaves]

How many even want kids?

[@ZodiacEntertainment2]

@@sonicleaves Not me, that's for sure.

[@AnonymousAnonposter]

I have two. I'm in my early 30's. Having children and providing them with a good upbringing is how you truly win a culture war. Meanwhile the left is castrating themselves in every way. And the new wave among "conservatives" infesting the right just uses Bible or MGTOW as a cope one way or another to accept loneliness.

[@Canoweissmon]

@@sonicleaves Not me either.

[@dariustakeda1609]

In the end we're all Sisyphus: struggling against life, but with no great purpose behind.

[@LordEverlost]

Why did this video get a climate change tag? It was about genetic engineering.

[@pippip8744]

You merely have to mention the phrase in the video to trigger the misinformation banner.

[@rb98769]

It was mentioned once in the video, so youtube is triggered.

[@bc-cu4on]

Two things: firstly the current "elites" are not the actual masters of the tech (material, medical, computing) that makes them wealthy. We may well see an engineer uprising that would see the top level replaced by number 2, as happened after the French revolution. Secondly, what tech giveth, it also taketh away. If a population chooses trait homogeneity based on narrow criteria (as you mentioned), then it makes itself vulnerable to designer pestilences created by the very same tech stack.

[@MrManidos]

designer pestilences?

[@urgandma]

I mean with what has already been seen, such as COVID, who is to say that we haven't already created all kinds of designer pestilences. Didn't need designer babies for a plague, and then you can come clean up with classic firepower, should that be your goal.

[@erics3101]

Yes to you and some commenters it's been maybe 10 years ago if I remember right that there have been genetically or race specific 'pestilences' pestilences designed period mostly in is ra hel. No? 🧐

[@deleted01]

Engineer uprising? Unlikely. Had they had the personality and organizational skills to rise up against the power structure, they wouldn't have been stuck being the engineers to begin with.

[@discoScrew]

I like how you see that it was the bourgeoisie and not the people who got the power in the revolution

[@truefact844]

Happiness can’t be paid for, if you understand the truth of this life. As a parent you could give your children every opportunity to be the best version of yourself but they will always be themselves. There will be unknowns and disadvantages the universe always has a way of showing us how little we really understand.

[@truefact844]

@@Blackraptor1234what has the millions you mentioned have to do with what I said. I can tell you have never been around people with money”other giving some sort of service” the insult only goes to prove how unhappy your are. If you disagree you could tell me but then your ego would fail to provide your form of happiness.

[@BruizerBlue]

Theyre wiping out the middle people. Economically/Genetically. There will only be a small amount of people at the top, and my guess is about 1 billion at the bottom.

[@Blunthammer]

500 million. They don't hide their plan at all.

[@TeddyKrimsony]

more like 7 billion

[@hebanker3372]

@@TeddyKrimsony Not if their depopulations schemes work...

[@MDE_never_dies]

@@TeddyKrimsonyMore like 500 million

[@NoidoDev]

That channel is literally a advocacy for people having children. You pessimists are wiping yourself out.

[@DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1]

13:15 Epigenetic adaptations to early life environment and conditions of upbringing probably play a huge role in determining the kind of genes that will be passed through heredity.

[@DEEPAKKUMAR-ch6cb]

Regardless of how many individuals may have ceased communication with you due to your viewpoints, I want you to know that you have greatly aided my understanding. Your concepts possess profound depth. Please continue creating videos; your contributions are invaluable...

[@bushy9780]

There are 2 futures: Future 1: Techno aristocracy stud farms of the ultra elite Future 2: Mad max dystopia with war lord harems

[@CuteAndFunnyFan]

So pretty much current year

[@midragga]

Future 2

[@Wolfengemoen]

Future 2 for the poor, future 1 for the wealthy, the division is broadening except in rural areas, in cities you will always get extremes and disproportionate wealth.

[@NoidoDev]

These are just the futures you can think about.

[@kagetsuki23]

Future 3: Rogue AI creating a Black Hole and destroying the Earth.

[@Brownyman]

Designer Baby: Makes loud crying baby noise Elite Parent: “So anyways, I started slapping!”

[@VileFemboy]

Cope

[@anarcho-savagery2097]

​@@VileFemboy how????

[@Zenden1ST]

​@@anarcho-savagery2097 low iq comment

[@canchero724]

Lol as if the parent is even going to be around to hear the baby cry. Thats a job for the nannies

[@TheInterwebzMan]

All your vids make me want to ropemaxx thanks brah

[@jake4404]

Whats keeping you waiting?

[@Bob_Lob_Law]

Ropemaxx 😂

[@beridledodopidop4822]

You mad bro? ​@@jake4404

[@pugsymalone6539]

​@@jake4404he's waiting for the next video from Thinking Ape...

[@lithunoisan]

Poopmaxx instead brother, you’ll thank me later.

[@pugsymalone6539]

"While the rest of us are left to flounder and founder..." Thank you for being the first person I've heard, use these words correctly and in proper context. Lifelong sailor here. Your daily eloquence is a primary reason I tune in. Cheers!

[@citramate3633]

Part of me fears that designer babies could follow the trend of designer breeds when it comes to pets. Maybe people are more practical when it comes to their own children, maybe it's equally stupid.

[@shrekdonkey9027]

There are no solutions only trade offs

[@jkfd97]

There are no good options, only bad and worse ones.

[@immortaljanus]

Biologically speaking, this is how it goes. If a certain group is better at acquiring resources, than that group gets to propagate its genes more successfully than the group that is poor at acquiring resources. The other side of this is: if a group selects genes for certain traits, it will inevitably choose for other, unknown traits as well. So they may all have high IQ and good cheekbones but a lot of them will develop schizophrenia or be prone to diabetes. I'm planning a scifi story where a group of people has a genetic and technological runoff, leaves Earth behind and after centuries or millenia returns because they utterly f**ed up their gene pool and now need 'fresh input' from the lower classes. Not sure what to do with this setup yet.

[@konstantin3374]

Ashkenazi sci-fi?

[@rb98769]

Some selection will probably yield very good results, but yeah, if taken to an extreme it will probably have severe effects because everything in our bodies is interconnected in some way, and we just aren't even close to understanding everything about that. The biggest obstacle to this new science is restrictions on human experimentation, but I'm sure there will be places with the money and the lack of ethics (China) to engage in it, and western elites will be more than eager to pour their money into that even if they publicly oppose it at home.

[@leisiyox]

Reminds me of the comic Invincible with the viltrumites

[@The_Bastard_Of_Anjou]

Sounds interesting. Wanna work on it together? I work with a comic start-up, and I have 3 franchises in development, first of which is releasing in September this year.

[@GodWorksOut]

Title genetic time bomb with a climate change ticker. Time to grab the popcorn.

[@luizmonad777]

Its the other way around, the climate change is going to be used as excuse to do that. I don't believe we have enough knowledge to understand the climate, yet we aren't capable of controlling it. That's where the lie is, I'm not denying climate change, to the contrary, they engineered it on purpose knowing very well what would happen. We could engineer out of them problem if we really wanted, it would probably not cost more than 15% of the GDP either.

[@Spice1_]

Thank you

[@hei9397]

It's unbearable how these YaGs took the internet, censorship and misinformation 24/7, 365.

[@f1y7rap]

Equilibrium is in a similar theme. Right around Y2K there were alot of technofashist dystopia stories both in the theater & on TV. Even the Time Machine, with the morlochs, danced around this.

[@dan6442]

Good insights, as always. As a man that does fall outside that perfect gene pool, I agree that those such as myself would be left behind and forgotten. Sadly, that's life and that is my life. It's familiar to me. It's beyond my imagination to understand what it's like to entire a room and see happiness from those already there at seeing me. I'm very short for a man but not short enough to be considered special. I have other obvious issue that I won't go into. Being "very" short is enough for this. I understand rejection. It's a defining word in my life. I sometimes daydream of a gene therapy that could cause me to reach 5'9". Then again, at 69, what would be the point. I live well enough. No health issues really. I'm physically strong and sometimes I weight train. I'm low to the ground so falling isn't really a "threat", lol. I have enough money and own property as well. My mom was a healthy 90-year-old until she wasn't. I'm thinking I have some years of health ahead and I'm happy about that. Why did I write this? Well, I just don't "fit". Anywhere. Well, not true, I'm retired military and some of my mates keep in touch. I treasure them. Likely because we are "like-thinkers" for the most part. Really, I'm just thinking out on this screen. I don't have many external issues at all. I'm quite comfortable, and for the most part, do what I want, when I want. Some might say I'm lucky and I often think so myself. Except when I have to go out, in and among population. Thanks for your insights as they often cause me to think outside of myself in ways I would not have otherwise. Genetics, good or bad. Might help some or as you suggest, lead to an unfortunate situation down the road.

[@dan6442]

@droppeddogs True, that was their fate. That is also my fate. All that I know, all that I have learned will be lost. I felt that I had something to contribute. Perhaps I did in ways I will never know. I am not alone. Many men get pushed aside and forgotten. Thanks for your response. I was just adding my point of view and I appreciate your addition to it.

[@PAIP_Studio]

It is not just this technology and yes you are correct to worry about it because the end result is a country or a domain governed by the real world equivalent of a family of immortal vampires. We will be the peasants living in the shadow of Dracula's castle. Only in our case, crucifix, garlic and sunlight will have no effect on our overlords.

[@jimibeuk]

Despite its flaws, Gattaca is a beautiful film. Actors, sets, architecture, kind of sepia tone and refreshing lack of stereotypial Hollywood stuff. Most obvious flaw is no hacking, which we all knew at the time was already a thing. You'll be rewarded for watching it, even if it's just to see Uma Thurman.

[@huntermulhall4849]

I’ve thought about this too. Humanity could one day be descended from a small bottleneck population of crazy rich “elites” with genetic engineering while the rest of historic humanity wastes away. You’ve said everything I can think of, but maybe they won’t get as far as we think. Like you said, education and intelligence aren’t necessarily the same thing. If they don’t have the right willpower, the right circumstances, or they piss off the wrong people, they might fall flat in spite of their advantages. I say this assuming a lot though, because I don’t know what extent of genetic engineering could be done. If people know what’s up though, some real resentment may build that even their genes can’t protect them from.

[@markhansen6236]

This will lead to huge generational inequality because the technology will become exponentially better over time. When it's first developed it might only increase IQ by 5 points then 20 years later by 80 points. Imagine if the IQ gap between millennials and Gen Z was 80 points and all of the dysfunction that would cause. It will be like what happened with computer processor speeds but with human brains this time.

[@somedudefromolathe699]

The dinosaurs were lucky...

[@ourochroma]

All in all, we all would love a future in which humanity could be rid of genetic diseases... but not in the way as to separate us into two species.

[@migarsormrapophis2755]

you got that climate change warning!

[@luizmonad777]

"climate change", yeah

[@RandomGuyyy]

The Department of Truth wants to remind you that "Human activities have been the main driver of Climate Change".

[@mysmartphonechannel]

​@@RandomGuyyyI really don't get it. It's like that kid that always goes "uh actually". At some point you just do the opposite just to spite them.

[@RandomGuyyy]

@@mysmartphonechannel Looks like the Ministry of Information deleted my comment.

[@mysmartphonechannel]

@@RandomGuyyy Ahaha, yes it did.

[@pippip8744]

Surprised you didnt mention Huxley. His idea is even more apt, namely the creation of a deliberately stratified society removing natural birth altogether. No one, not even the top have any say. Most arent even that self aware and if you do try to address that, then off to Iceland with you. With, of course, the exception of Mustapha Mond, who explains in chapter 17 exactly why its that way and decided to make the choice to embrace it. As ever, I think these things are more random and complicated than the 'clever' believe them to be and the law of unintended consequence comes into effect. See also: modified RNA the most recent disaster from the super clever. Hopefully most people here had sufficient acuity to swerve that disaster.

[@RoryMitchell00]

I'm not familiar with the "regression to the mean" examples you give, but the wording you use to describe it (particularly when discussing the average height of offspring) sounds a bit similar to the following trick problem in statistics: "If you flip a coin 100 times and it comes up heads each time, what is the probability that you will get tails on the next flip?" This question trips up a lot of intelligent people, and even mathematicians who should know better. Because the next coin flip is still just a coin flip. It has no greater chance of being heads _or_ tails. All of the events are independent of each other. And the same is true in a general sense for the random genetic lottery of procreation. Regression to the mean is indeed a correct observation (from what I know of the process), but it only applies in a general sense at a population level, and not for a single event (there is no such thing as probability when the sample size is one). In the case of the trick question about flipping a coin, I've met some people who do try to argue that there have to be more 0's following such a large number of 1's, in order to "balance things out" and bring things back to the 50-50 average. However, that is a fallacy similar in nature to the Gambler's Fallacy that has a person expecting to win a game of chance just because they've accrued so many losses that they think the odds should now be in their favour.

[@juliantheapostate8295]

The gambler's fallacy is not that they're wrong about a win coming, but that they're wrong about it coming before they are bankrupt

[@brianbarrett8739]

I think the correction will come before the separation gets very far. We are already seeing the consequences and it's speeding up. Men aren't cooperating anymore. So far it is peaceful however, that may change. The ultra wealthy require a ridiculously high amount of resources and other support systems to be there for them to have their lifestyles. White collar jobs do not exist without the blue collar jobs being taken care of to a sufficiently significant level. Blue collar men are "opting out" of their roles. Until the "lesser classes" have their ability to make decisions eliminated, effectively making them not conscious, they can always decide, "there is nothing in it for me and I simply will not cooperate." Then it all falls apart. That will have other terrible consequences but, not the haves/have nots consequences.

[@archstanton9073]

It will be like what Star Trek predicted the 90's were going to be like with Khan and a bunch of other people taking over.

[@marcuscole1994]

This is why I love your channel.

[@johnlesoudeur3653]

This can be a discussion on the unelected WEF...and the WHO.

[@Matthew-zu6tm]

Want to know the scary version? Why do you see blood donation sites in economically "disadvantaged" areas. Is the same reason you don't see lotto liquor and Nail salons in the same zip codes of high end luxury stores. Be it through 23&Me, Ancestry, or Blood donation centers, they are building that essential genetics code standard model. They are in the collection and testing phase. It's potential is as described if not regulated globally going to create a permit stratified humanity. The pitfalls are just as severe though if done wrong. I would speculate that they are betting that with the computer revolution and AI assistance that the creation of even unknown genetic maladies not be created is why there is any caution at the moment.

[@TheParadox_]

Exactly! Imagine the offspring of those designer offspring following the same process and so on. This may be how General AI will ultimately be achieved.

[@TurboMintyFresh]

In the future your attractiveness will be the most important currency

[@Discopuss]

I was involved in some recent research on genomics and while there are fascinating technologies under development, a lot of true understanding is still very much lacking, even among experts. The frightening part is that very soon A.I. will design and interpret this kind of research and we will move into leveraging technologies we do not fully understand. This will quickly accelerate beyond our ability to catch up, and none of us understands what that will mean for humanity. It is impossible that AI will be "right" 100% of the time, and no one is planning for catastrophic contingencies.

[@rb98769]

AI is already peaking, we don't have enough data to feed AI to generate a tech singularity. Still, current AI will probably revolutionize multiple fields already.

[@Peter_Parker69]

The gap in all aspects will only increase at an accelerating rate. Just look at the financial gap we're experiencing.

[@realjaytruth]

I think designer babies will have unforseen consequences and the average people will have a strength in some area that becomes more evident over time. One thing parents need to really understand is if they want their childrens bodies manipulated by their doctors in that first year of life.

[@jkfd97]

Parents have been allowing their sons to be genitally mutilated for decades.

[@ArthurHuizar]

Speciation shouldn't be a problem especially if they're living in space or whatever. We'll still have our own markets, community, and ecosystem. Movies are fiction and envy is bad.

[@GohnwithaG]

Nature won’t be denied

[@coweatsman]

Plot twist: The contingencies on which these "terror management theories" (AKA fear of death) scenarios are enabled may dissolve through a ack of resources and energy. Living in space may need a million or a billions times as much energy per capita. That may make it a non starter at the starting blocks out of the gate.

[@quatreraberbawinner2628]

Everyone is on edge over AI but this, this is far scarier

[@quatreraberbawinner2628]

@@ireneuszpyc6684 theres something called germline editing, it's a change once made will be carried in your DNA when you reproduce meaning at some point we might permanently change what it means to be a human being If that doesn't scare you IDK what will

[@TheGiantMidget]

@@ireneuszpyc6684 humans are meddling where they shouldn't be. hasn't the 20th and 21st century shown us that the more we try to control nature the more we fuck things up? If we start messing around with this stuff what will happen is that we will start doing what we have been doing for decades which is, we will hyperfocus on an extremely narrow idea of what a person should be and we will just have millions of carbon copies of the same kind of person that the most powerful people decide is the kind of person that should exist. Say goodbye to variety, novelty, adventure....we will have reduced life down to the most formulaic and stale version of itself and we will be so existentially bored that we will just end up destroying ourselves

[@ursosexmachina]

Not really. If you're poor, you won't see it affect you at all.

[@someguycalledcerberus9805]

One of the most important effects of AI would be speeding up research, particularly biotech. Also, this is not scary. This should be hopeful. I can only hope gene therapy for normies will be possible one day so I can fix myself.

[@someguycalledcerberus9805]

@@ireneuszpyc6684 In my mid thirties.

[@kamemaster3396]

Beginning of the end

[@ScottStClair-dm6vk]

If everyone was = , we would all die from boredom and insanity !

[@Oh_So_Based]

If we were all = genetically , then we *still* wouldnt be equal because of different starting points + random luck

[@MDE_never_dies]

@@Oh_So_BasedWe’d just find new ways to differentiate ourselves

[@MDE_never_dies]

@@Oh_So_BasedIf everyone was = genetically, we’d all be clones.

[@yoyo762]

I've wondered about how much human interference can affect genetic adaptation and evolution. Humans went from worms to thinking beings through genetic development. Are we stopping that process ?? Will genes stop adapting and selecting better traits now??

[@MrTweell]

I recommend a novel by Modesitt: The Octagonal Raven. It's a science fiction story that goes into detail about genetic engineering and a growing gap between the haves and have-nots because of it.

[@kinvert]

If it helps my offspring break free of the chains of all these stupid voters I'm all for it.

[@Natef321]

Huh?

[@coweatsman]

Be careful of inflicting suffering on yourself through seeing all these stupid voters.

[@palaceofwisdom9448]

@@Natef321 The dullard masses have made all the destructive policies we've seen possible to be implemented. Huge government, lockdowns, jab mandates, even seizing people's children would happen if 70% of the public backed it. There is no future if evil people can coerce the rest of us via useful idiots.

[@nowhereman7413]

what is a stupid voter? have ever voted? Do you think that you could be consider as stupid voter for the people with real power?

[@ACzechManGoingHisOwnWay]

Unfortunately, voter ignorance is mostly environmental conditioning, rather than some genetic defect.

[@GilTheArtAlien]

Reminds me of the Bene Tleilax from Dune and they would ultimately create a kind of people that was beyond their control.

[@francoiseeduard303]

I am obsessed with GATTACA! In the movies Germline Eugenic Genetic Engineering was expensive: “They put off having any more children until they could afford not to gamble. To bring a child into the world in what has become the ‘natural’ way. It meant selling the beloved Buick.“ I am 5’6.5”, have multiple genetic/congenital conditions and general overall unattractiveness and I’ve resigned myself to never knowing “a woman’s warmth” early! I’m just waiting for eugenic germline genetic engineering technology to be available, human genetic material can be procured with rather less fuss, have healthy children who’ll be able to live full lives, and have more then 3 kids without being told no by a woman and fear of losing custody.😉

[@dariustakeda1609]

I'm all for it. This will help to give the reproduction agency in the hand of men, since only 20% of us reproduced (while they reproduced in 80% of cases). A brocel could have a pretty baby despite his unpowered genetics.

[@francoiseeduard303]

@dariustakeda1609 My children will be tall (boys: 6' 3 13/64"+ girls: 5' 10 55/64"+), healthy, and gorgeous!

[@toxicmale2264]

What Malcolm and Simone are doing is not an issue. The more children they have, the more of that wealth is re-distributed. Their stated goal is to create offspring that will benefit humanity, which if anyone can do it would be a wealthy couple. The wealth class tends to also be a significantly small percentage of society. With the wealth gap getting bigger and bigger, the rich could take on the burden of having more children. Their genetic offspring will not be competing with us over the shitty low wage jobs. They will be creating the jobs of the future. Even if we do get replaced by AI bots, the population will drop down so much that it will not bother us anymore.

[@sonicleaves]

I'm not sure if will get to that point because generally people don't want kids anymore, designer or not.

[@jkfd97]

The Muslims and South Americans disagree with you on that.

[@thedarkestknight8381]

You do know rpg where getting us ready for this

[@Yahyahyahyahyahhalftone]

Start, I love you so much all your work. I can assure you that the rich and powerful. And eventually the normal people who are able to get genetic engineering for their children will find Some Way to alleviate themselves of any responsibility of guilt. 4 people whether it be. Finding a place for peoplequal of lower intelligence. Lower acumen through some kind of program and make sure to get a good PR moment with that. That's just my 2 cents. For all this, but I love your refreshing take on this, thank you.

[@Montross4440]

Dr.Edward Dutton has much to say about genetics. Its very intetesting.

[@skylinefever]

I am a huge fan. I also like that he said industrial revolution led to the sick breeding spiteful mutants.

[@SimoneandMalcolm]

Simone and Malcolm here. We enjoyed your discussion on the topic! We are working very hard to make PGT-P available to *everyone* regardless of income and we think in the end many governments (especially those with nationalized healthcare) will subsidize it because it'll make financial sense for them to take action that produces citizens with fewer serious health risks. As such, we're not as worried as you are about this being an issue of "haves" and "have-nots." We love Gattaca as a discussion point about this as it shows how things like genetic screening aren't everything and having an internal locus of control, a sense of ownership of one's actions, and sheer grit. **SPOILER ALERT** but the punchline of the movie is that people with all the right genetic stats won't necessarily outperform people who have the genetic odds stacked against them (there's that killer line: "I never saved anything for the swim back"). While we're believers in a deterministic universe (which trickles down to our views on genetic determinism), we are the first to acknowledge that genes-and CERTAINLY polygenic risk scores, which ONLY show risks and are based on actively-being-improved-and-refined research-are not everything. Nevertheless, as parents, if there's something we can do to give our kids a better roll of the dice (and popularize + raise awareness about something that can help many more parents do the same), you bet we're going to go for it. ;)

[@thinking-ape6483]

I am not really inclined to take you at your word but I appreciate your response and contribution.

[@nickn1782]

Just re-watched Gattaca last week.

[@Scarecrow1410]

Lord Ape, I’d like to see a video on your thoughts concerning human superstition and where you think that comes from. It must have some evolutionary component to it.

[@tarico4436]

You mention superstition. Can I compare this to religion? I don't want to type too much and have the algo nail me, so I'll be back to continue this line if the algo lets me.

[@uncagedpine9589]

One snakes bite causes the person bit to die, the other doesnt, it must mean this is a special ability of snakes they can turn on and off at will. So snakes became a mythical being. THose who beleived snakes were mythical, survived more, because they avoided them all.

[@wildeirishpoet]

Read Vico. He has a great take on that subject.

[@jakesnake7728]

This is sick video well done.

[@DiamondKing-em7oc]

By the way, rich people aren't smart but those who work for them are

[@summerwinter89]

everyone thinks elon is a super genius. its easy to trick normies.

[@thegaslightneverends]

@@summerwinter89 elon is a dumb person's idea of a smart person

[@Mambo9000012]

That is a generalization that is a result of many biases and copes. One is that rich people are better known to all of us and we get to see their fuck ups and their stupidity more publicly. Another reason is a portion of mega rich become one via inheritance. These should not trigger you because they'll return to the commoner status within 2-3 generations. But rest assured, average millionaire or billionaire is far more intelligent than the average person.

[@ZodiacEntertainment2]

Rich people are more intelligent on average, but that does not mean that they are all geniuses. We have seen countless examples that prove otherwise, sometimes they were just the right person in the right place.

[@johnlesoudeur3653]

@@ZodiacEntertainment2 They also seem more driven/competitive than intelligent. Just my observation and experience.

[@someguy1184]

Beats the entropy of nature

[@jongallo8771]

Good commentary. Thank you,

[@christophergriffith3420]

I can't help but wonder, given the current downward spiral trajectory of things....will we look back at this period and time in the future and "long for better days?"

[@opusa]

Aaaaand the Video got explainytaged by KZbin. XD

[@celpabedn]

IQ becomes the new muscle, average will get annihilated by lack of suitable mates!

[@Danuxsy]

We are already living in Gattica

[@sadboisurge]

we got irl Charles Xavier school before gta6

[@NelsonStJames]

I’ve always been curious as to why some people are so opposed to the Idea of genetic engineering, and yet have no problem with the people trying to accomplish the exact same thing albeit with far less certain odds with mate selection. I’ve actually heard a woman once tell a guy she’d never have a child with him because she wanted a child with blue eyes, and while I sure most people aren’t so candid about their intentions, I am pretty sure a larger number than one might think are doing it and never telling anyone.

[@skylinefever]

Virtue signaling has all kinds of ways. Regular churchgoing was a virtue signal.

[@richardchampagne4395]

Shortness is being bread out of North America. Thanks SD.

[@summerwinter89]

as it should.

[@willybobo8846]

you heard of gang stalking?

[@thebostonministry8099]

YEAH ITS DEFINITELY REAL

[@sonicleaves]

What does that have to do with what he's saying?

[@thebostonministry8099]

@@sonicleaves IT DOESNT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC BUT IT IS A SERIOUS TOPIC THAT NEEDS TO BE TALKED ABOUT

[@meesteranonymous8177]

​@@thebostonministry8099so what is it?

[@willybobo8846]

@@sonicleaves a video idea, chill out pal..

[@CountDownToSerenity]

thats actually very good its like a repackaged version of whatifalthist incel revolution video. you are smart.

[@TheWay-u1n]

Nobody is going to be able to afford private spaces in the future.. and the few that can will eventually get raided for hunger is so much greater

[@feral_male8460]

If I remember correctly; In Gattica embryos were screened for "fitness". There was no genetic engineering other than the ranking a dozen odd embryos, parents could then pick the best of the bunch. That's why his brother only managed detective as a life path, where as Jerome got super lucky (perhaps several generations of such selections) But your point stands. However money will out; Those with cash to spend and now only having one or maybe a couple of kids , will dump massive amounts of resources into making they their offspring has the best of the best; Genetics, schooling etc. Gone are the days of having 10 kids (Rolling the dice 10 times) and simply crossing your fingers as to which ones make it to adult-hood :/

[@realdoomsdaybeast]

AI, genetic engineering and neuralink will format human beings into sameness. All these things will end independent thought and individuality. Most people are basically the same, follow the hivemind, follow the popular but once everyone is tapped in to the same information with no deviance from it, humans will be empty automatons.

[@doomedbook1020]

Genetic modification will be trialled first on the masses and kept under lock and key before genetically modified babies are kept under lock and key and released to the masses. Getting the technology in a controllable state first is paramount.

[@akaroth7542]

The Clans in Battletech are benevolent in comparison