The German (film) - The dogfight

Parte de la película "The German" en la que se representa la batalla aérea.
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[@Hapz1998]

Think twice about commenting how fake, ridiculous, unhistorical, unrealistic or impossible is that film. There have been people commenting it for 6 years.

[@doraorak]

dude that comment is so fucking awesome i like it

[@pilotdave1000]

People don't appreciate the aviation movies because it's not realistic. We barely get movies in the first place so why hammer it down when it's geared to bring in a bigger audience and not just aviation weebs like myself. Now we will wait another 5 years for the next one to come out.

[@thien478]

Phim gì vậy

[@JA-rk9cg]

They are idiotic. This is awesome.

[@dragonbank6807]

I thought twice. This is so unrealistic 😂

[@CMDR_Belisario]

Dogfights without missile, radar, gps. WWII pilots, my respect for all of them.

[@esautrash]

oh yeah, wwii it's respect for all soldiers, AMERICANS, GERMANS, ITALIANS, RUSSIANS, JAPANESE, CHINEASE, FRECH, all of them deserve a lot of respect, srry 4 my bad english

[@SilentSuppresor]

What about all the other Countries like Australia and Canada to name a couple :)

[@quangnguyentrung647]

Also WW1 pilots, even with poorer equipments.

[@B20C0]

But they had the power of CGI.

[@lowqualityshitposts8860]

Well the enemy also didnt have it

[@WobbaFett9001]

Was not expecting the mustache

[@bigtroglodyte]

GlisteningKintamas right lmao dude turned into a whole different person when he took that mask off

[@jettech7961]

Same

[@sam8404]

Never seen Top Gun? Can't be a fighter pilot without rocking a stache

[@gregorius_alfon7017]

@@sam8404 yeah

[@alexandertheissl5517]

Every good fighter pilot have a mustache 🦊

[@Schensue]

That is the smoothest crash landing in the history of crash landings.

[@lukaswirtz9493]

just remember that one on hutson river ;)

[@Mills117]

British propaganda what do you expect

[@thatoneasianguy10221]

King Of POP Right, but thats a river. This British dude landed his half burning, broken winged, front rotor plane into a rocky field, in an almost fluid crash

[@tSp289]

+Mills117 Actually it's Irish propaganda, as it was made in Ireland by Irish people, to make a point about how Ireland was neutral in the war. The rest of the short film shows them have a fight on the ground and the Brit capture the German, lead him out to some soldiers only to find out they're magically in Ireland all of a sudden and both under arrest. There's a smug little note at the end about how many of the POWs stayed there at the end of the war and became citizens.

[@hunter.1]

so true. is impossible at so low alti and so high speed to any pilot do that and expect to land alive, much less without no one injury. also....okay that spitfires had better maneuverability, but in a dive i really doubt that a spit could keep up with a bf 109 which have a so much highter dive speed

[@drunio1504]

That's what I love about KZbin commentary, everyone's an effing expert.

[@user-mc3if9xs7w]

yeah you all play war thunder or plane simulation games 24/7 and never go outside, that makes you a real expert at flying, 99.9% of you probably have never flown a plane before.

[@gunterlinevanherbert4439]

You dont have to be an expert for that... but youre kinda right

[@turklander69]

@@user-mc3if9xs7w well yeah that make us expert

[@abcd4825]

Corona Impfung verweigern - Wehrt Euch! Refuse corona vaccination - defend yourself!

[@Gamble661]

Actually I AM a pilot with lots and lots of time logged, some of it of a contentious nature. But I don't have any comments about this movie, I just saw the clip and then checked the comments to see if it was worth watching....I gather it isn't. I will say that the Spitfire pulled what looked liked a 9g turn at one point....and that's bs. Can't be worse then Mission of Honor/Hurricane though....can it?

[@ShuoTang-zi1vw]

In movie dogfights, there's always a scene where a guy gets shot down and his friend is watching and screaming in agony to dial in the tragedy of it all. I imagine in real air combat, you've got too much adrenaline and you're focusing on too many things to really emotionally process something like that until afterwards.

[@samburkes7552]

I agree..talked to a couple of WW2 Vet combat pilots..main thoughts/mindset is trying to stay alive, solvent, do the job, try to return to your base..

[@alexm7627]

I dont think thats an absolute though

[@alexcunningham1647]

@@alexm7627 while I agree its probably not an absolute thing people who are distracted by emotional trauma in a situation like that aren't likely to be coming back

[@hanoitripper1809]

U can only imagine and never know

[@Tenktory]

Just like in movies about infantry. Someone always listens to the last wish of a dying friend. And suddenly God creates a bubble of peace around them so that no one will be able to break those five minutes of holding hands in the center of the slaughter. Even the sounds of the battle are cut out so that they don't get in the way of whispering

[@andyz.5431]

While half a wing lost and spinning such a smooth crash landing is a miracle.

[@yusufbektas1961]

When all the NNN veterans are on your side

[@n4eJIkuH]

Это сказка

[@rickdee7179]

Despite the inaccuracies and artistic licence, this film uses a beautiful colour palette - some of the shots of fighters dropping out of the clouds or roaring over the countryside are quite stunning.

[@moeburn]

The comments are overstating it. The only horribly unrealistic thing depicted here is surviving that air-to-air crash and rolling spin. There'd be no way out of that, no surviving it, no avoiding going in nose-first, no miracles. But everything up to that point is perfectly fine.

[@srcreeper02550]

@@moeburn the focus is not to be realistic but action

[@AventurasEntresierras]

Only in Hollywood...

[@hunter.1]

true

[@ZerokillerOppel1]

Caracortada Supervivencia y Aventura I think this is a Japanese movie. So much for Hollywood...duh...

[@afghosting8772]

After all these years of watching virtual dogfights, I still sometimes catch myself leaning out of my chair to roll away from the enemy!

[@Fsrjtyttzma]

They went up there aged 18 some of them with little to zero training. Different breed of human being back then. Warrior one and all and god bless you all

[@ronanslov1896]

My great grandpa had stories that he passed down about WW2 and I read it and when I was done I watched this and I started crying because he was one of the lucky men to servive

[@YabaniDuck]

Some Arcade Match on war Thunder

[@josefyoung3245]

ha

[@ammarmuslimbinzainalzainal657]

very nice spitfire vs bf 109 german Nazi..

[@ahahm3]

If it were arcade, they would’ve been pulling 40g manoeuvres 50m over the ground.

[@sekrit4581]

0:34 - every arcade kill on war thunder

[@dirtytreerat14]

No this is not arcade at all. Because in arcade everybody rams when going head on like they don’t know how to do it,

[@jsragman8045]

I remember when we were in DEFTAC school we were taught the easiest way to break a guns solution was to do a very high g snap barrel roll. Not only would you break their guns solution, you would cause an overshoot and now you would be in a position to out rounds through THEIR canopy, The other way to break a guns solution was to roll left, pull quick pos G and then stuff the stick all the way forward and push max neg G. Although this works, hard neg G's are very painful and can literally burst blood vessels in your eyes. More than once we came back from DEFTAC hops with badly bloodshot eyes.

[@ihorm.9249]

With the plane chopped off, it is almost impossible to take the plane out of rotation, near the ground. And already to sit on your belly - so generally fantastic.

[@yukanda3296]

Well, and of course the German fighter decided to stop moving and let him get shot. Of course of course

[@Levi-ey8su]

Yu Kanda I assume since pilots did not have 3rd person back then that they sometimes wanted to look behind them

[@onkelvalentin6952]

@@Levi-ey8su They had mirrors in their cockpit

[@udokrause832]

@@onkelvalentin6952Jo,dass mit dem ankippen,der Tragfläche hatte man mit der V1 gemacht. Sie in der Luft abzuschießen,war ehr Selbstmord.

[@onkelvalentin6952]

@@udokrause832 ehmmm. Ich glaub du hast du ein bisschen vertan...

[@udokrause832]

@@onkelvalentin6952Kam auf Discovery Channel. Impusls- Antrieb ist jetzt voll in. Bei den Flugzeug- Mechanikern, wer am Flughafen wohnt,braucht keinen Wecker mehr. :-)))))))))

[@bongarcon6880]

Сильное видео. Респект лётчикам, павшим в боях за свободу и независимость Европы. Низкий поклон.

[@n4eJIkuH]

Видео тухлое неправдоподобнлстью

[@clivewedderburn7601]

I loved this. I think we'd all like to experience the feeling of being in this situation and lots have commented how unrealistic this film is... However, put you in the actual situation and you'd find the average dogfight unrealistic to the extreme, fantastical even. So I welcome this. I just wish someone would limit their rounds to approximately fourteen seconds of firepower.

[@andreeanotfunny8678]

You don't need to put yourself in the situation of the pilots, WW2 was ended 70 years ago, plus people could put more money in the film and make it realistic, why they should get as much money as the really realistic movies that cost much more to make, just think of it: some guy gets same profit off a movie with low graphics but did pay less and did not work as much on the graphics as the realistic movie makers did, isn't it just not fair to get as much money as a realistic film when you just didn't work enough on it? We should just forget about world war 2.

[@natesjko]

The type of Spitfire used in the movie wasn’t even produced yet. The type of Spitfire that fought the Bf 109 E-3 was the Spitfire Mk.IIa , not the Spitfire that’s shown in the movie.

[@antonimerceianyo4566]

Indeed. In the movie it appears to be a Spitfire Mk V, as the long-barreled wing-mounted Hispano cannons show.

[@BrucknerMotet]

there is a certain hope in the febrile idea that fair play could win out in the end and the aerial foes could emerge from their shattered planes, stagger over to each other, inquire into each other's physical well being, shake hands, and proceed to the nearest pub for debriefing and cocktails.

[@redwulf509]

You might like the true account of the stricken B17 that was escorted out of harms way by a German BF109 pilot...Hanz Stigler and Charlie Brown IIRC...just goes to show you that there was "honour amongst enemies"

[@callumfoster7866]

Say what you will about the graphics, sure it's not Hollywood, but what is striking and admirable is the storytelling aspect, you can tell this film has been made by people who are passionate to tell it.

[@qhontholgaming2666]

hollywood the history changer!

[@junior-rr5vh]

Changer Always ...

[@alexnics2513]

Idiot ;)

[@hlcepeda]

I fully understand the sad history of how "Hollywood" (assuming you mean "American" film companies) have muddied up many historical films... but four Irish production companies together made "The German".

[@pedroarthur919]

@@alexnics2513 Shut up

[@stebepateay2499]

I think this is great, its very entertaining and keeps the viewer pulled in. I throughly enjoyed it

[@jasonwills1116]

Thisisthebestanimatedfilmonyoutube, barnone,

[@CZ350tuner]

Pretty much like the action on IL-2 Cliffs of Dover - Blitz (on Steam) flying on the TWC Campaign server, except folks try to avoid colliding with enemy aircraft, though accidents still happen. Running out of ammo (16 seconds worth on the Spitfire and 18 seconds worth on the Hurricane) when a victim is a "cannot possibly miss" target is one of the most frustrating things many have experienced in the game.

[@flyboy747uk]

For a more realistic dog fight scenes watch the film The Battle Of Britain. Filmed using real aircraft and not computer graphics.

[@samburkes7552]

Correct. Only things inaccurate were: Hispano or Merlin engines used for the bf-109s. And some Spirited shown had the 6-on-a-side exhaust stacks, rather than the fishtail triple-ejector stacks on Mk I/Mk ll Spits..noticed that right off..Nothing's really perfect. Accurate otherwise. .Great 1969 movie!!

[@o.k.2968]

Have you seen this unreal 'wing strike'?! If the wings of aircraft were so fragile, both of planes would have broken on takeoff.

[@Hapz1998]

Thanks for the info, Scott.

[@lance6980]

... schwachsinnig, ... ! ... mir fehlen die Worte !

[@juanpablo-gq1cp]

Warthunder gameplay must be the title and it must say "very honorable"

[@JayeL216]

Spitfire and ME-109: (crash) Smartasses on the ground: "Welcome to Ireland, you're under arrest!"

[@davidpallin772]

I enjoyed this clip, very well done.

[@GVBiggs524]

This guy was in the Ben Hur remake and I was waiting for him to shout out... "ARE WE HAVING FUN YET?"

[@AndrewBannister]

This is from a short film by RTE. They're missing the end bit, but after they crash land the British pilot corners the German pilot on the ground. As reinforcements arrive seemingly to intern the German pilot, it is revealed that they have in fact gone down in the Irish free state, and the Irish ground forces arrest them both.

[@samburkes7552]

..Thank you on that, Sir..

[@simonpeart7981]

​@TrueKen www.ww2irishaviation.com/ - here's a pretty much complete list of WW2 aircraft that crashed in or near Ireland. Plenty of RAF fighters and a good few German bombers, the Germans hit supply ships and British fishing boats near Ireland and were also hitting cities like Liverpool in 1940.

[@fus149hammer5]

A 109 crashed in the Irish Republic? Either it had extremely big drop tanks or the germans had an aircraft carrier unknown to history.

[@furbs9999]

That's the biggest spitfire cockpit I've ever seen!

[@khrystree9233]

If you think thats big - look at the inside of the Sherman turret in 'Fury ' ;) K

[@stevejohnson1871]

Wow, that was a great piece of video

[@khrystree9233]

Very impressive effects - feels like yr in the cockpit ! K

[@andrewparrott7260]

Not sure which air battle that's supposed to be from, but if it's a recreation of the battle of Britain than the spits are the wrong marks. They look like mk 4s or mk 5s with 20mm canons, battle of Britain spits were mk 1s or 2s with only 6 303 inch guns.

[@samburkes7552]

Andrew Parrott, you are exactly, absolutely correct there!! No 20mm cannon on BofB-era Spitfires..just those .303cal Colt/Browning Machine Guns..Same with the Hawker Hurricane, except they had eight .303's..Puny caliber, firing Cordite-propelled bullets..but enough prop. zeroed, could do some damage!!

[@andrewparrott7260]

@@samburkes7552 sorry to say, neither the spit nor the hurricanes had colt/brownings machine guns they were .303 Vickers machine guns. English weapons not American. 🤔😖🤦‍♂️

[@raphaelvildren7633]

1:12 that BF/ME 109 must be lagging hard

[@ringoglassner7149]

You did a good job on it .

[@drumsandstix128]

Its was great! thank you!

[@lordbadman9264]

Is this the one where they have landed in Ireland and both get interned for the duration?

[@salvadorvillegas3569]

This scene will only believe those that IGNORE the rules of the air fighting in that war...

[@hammmodjabeer7278]

English and American airlines win movies, and in fact, the German air force was the best.

[@sin646]

Good job!

[@anindanath2420]

It's impossible to make such tight turns, and dives , even for the spitfire. And not even that easy to shake off an enemy fighter, yes the 109 is not that much maneuverable, but still.

[@kendicus7640]

Ayy, I thought they were going to fly side by side for couple of second and say goodbye to each other with a salute

[@amarelanatura]

" From the bomber, the bomb carries Death to the airfield And the stabilizer seems to be singing: "Peace to your home!" (Soviet bard Vladimir Vysotsky from the song "I am" YAK "fighter)

[@keepinmindthat]

cool film, only wish it was longer

[@shubhankardasgupta4777]

"You have got a hole in your left wing"

[@ahahm3]

“Engaging Enemy!”

[@totallynotaneo6272]

"Starting combat with....."

[@tegjwokjohn1839]

"I agree!"

[@leorodrigues7368]

SOMEBODY COVER ME!!!

[@brandonmackenzie7483]

“Attention to the designated grid square”

[@fuscomania]

That was badass, that last stunt he pulled on the German pilot.

[@djisch]

Good that a spitfire with holes in its wing can just out loop a bf109 And the bf109 just fly in a straight line

[@JamesWrightjr]

Amazing!!!

[@bread-cf8fl]

2:37 must add that to top 10 anime world war smooth crash

[@Gittiteufel]

then turning on back and dive was the death of spitfire, RIP Wings and RIP Motor......really realistic in the battle of britan

[@johngate7217]

The spits carb would not allow inverted negative G sme withthe Zero. The later spits had the "tilly" which helped.

[@Gittiteufel]

ya but not in the battle of britain :D

[@johngate7217]

it was in the Battle of Britain en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Shilling%27s_orifice

[@piet-heinvanderputten362]

@@johngate7217 Its says the device was being installed on RAF fighters in early 1941 , the Battle of Britain was in the summer and autumn of 1940.

[@187SicknesS]

A rockin rolla!

[@CarlosSantos-gc8uy]

Wow can y say is magnificent from Carlos Portugal

[@melchiorvonsternberg844]

So sweet! But the reality looks different. The German Messerschmidt dives considerably faster, so that the British pilot has no chance of chasing him in this way. And the only situation I know where an opposing pilot was hunted down in this way was a Mustang pilot, that of Hermann Graf (the first fighter pilot in the world to score 200 kills, 212 in total, died in 1988) was involved in a fight with several Mustangs in the defense of the Reich. He shot down 2of them. Then his guns failed, so that the 3rd Mustang he knocked down with a flap of its wing on the enemy's cockpit. After this, his machine was also so badly damaged that he had to jump off immediately. He got caught in his oxygen supply and was torn down with it. It was only shortly before the impact that he was able to free himself and deploy the parachute just in time. Fortunately, he was soon found in a swampy area and taken to the hospital. Then he received an absolute flight ban from the German air force command. It should be mentioned that this man is one of the top 15 fighter pilots (all German of course) of all time. These 15 men, together, shot down almost 3,000 enemies. If you want to watch a film about the life of a real fighter pilot, then I recommend the "Star of Africa", about the life of Hans-Joachim Marseille. He scored 158 victories, all in the west. And Marseille is not even one of the "unrivaled 15" ... kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXK4h5qgiZ2FbK8

[@zahapruka8165]

Настоящий летчик? Все из германии? То есть фашисты и нацисты - это настоящие герои? Полностью проигравшие войну в небе, а количество сбитых - это видно как у барона Мюнхгаузена

[@melchiorvonsternberg844]

@@zahapruka8165 Не стесняйтесь верить в то, во что хотите верить. Но никто из тех, кто считает себя военными историками, никогда не поставит под сомнение эти расстрелы. Но поскольку вы думаете, что ваш урок сталинской истории чего-то стоит, вот несколько неопровержимых фактов. На протяжении всей войны в ВВС Германии служили 28 тысяч летчиков-истребителей. С 1939-45 гг. И по всем фронтам. Только 1400 человек пережили войну. Это означает, что 95% этих пилотов не вернулись домой. Но в то же время в воздушной войне союзников против Германии погибло 150 000 британских и американских летчиков. Также очевидно, что Красная Армия потеряла намного больше летчиков. И хотя многие немецкие летчики пали, они выполняли свои задания до конца войны (при условии, что у них было достаточно запчастей, топлива и боеприпасов). Если хотите, это настоящая храбрость и героизм. Политика и преступность - это одно. Солдатские достижения, совсем другое. Да и еще кое-что: не думайте, что вы знаете что-то по этому поводу так же хорошо, как я. Политикой и историей интересовался с 8 лет. Тогда начальником в Кремле звали Леонид Бреженев. И жил там несколько лет ...

[@JayeL216]

Watching this, you realize: combat pilots today have it easy. Love WWII planes

[@samburkes7552]

..So do I talked to a,few vet fighter pilots. They told me plenty..!!

[@geraldillo]

Beautiful animation!

[@billyleroy2465]

Toby Kebbell is great in this!

[@techzone2009]

I love Germany... Love from Nepal

[@travishillsthedarkangelbun504]

Thanks for the Love 👍🇩🇪🇦🇹🇺🇸

[@bread-cf8fl]

2:34 What pilot nowadays experience after getting launch in the carrier.

[@GTX1123]

The dogfighting scenes are very well done, but the ending is a bit over the top for me. My question is why isn't anyone doing a remake of the film "Reach for the Sky"? (i.e. pilot Douglas Bader). They could weave his INCREDIBLE story into the battle of Britain and have all kinds of cool dogfight scenes. The sequel would be about his capture, escapes and recaptures and his time in Colditz prison. They could end it with the glider actually flown out of the prison / castle.

[@johnwilletts3984]

Steve. Today history is written by the nation with the largest movie audience. To sell in America the whole story would have to be rewritten with an American Douglas Bader.

[@GTX1123]

@@johnwilletts3984 "Dunkirk" actually did well at the box office in America so I'm not sure what you're getting at; i.e. I don't think America was mentioned once in "Dunkirk". As well as it did, Bader's story would do far better because it 's so compelling.

[@richardsimpson3792]

A realistic film about DB wouldn't show him in a good light. He claimed to have shot down five Germans in one fight over Dunkirk...a feat unwitnessed by those with him and not recorded on his gun camera. He left the airfields he was meant to protect unguarded while going off chasing personal glory, and once ordered 3 squadrons to turn back because of a technical problem with his own aircraft...he wouldn't hand over control to anyone else because he was an egomaniac. Then he was instrumental in pulling strings to get Sir Hugh Dowding sacked as head of Fighter Command after Dowding had won the Battle of Britain. If you were scoring him for his qualities as a commander, you'd give him a 10 for leadership (his personal courage was an inspiration to those around him) and a 0 for decision-making.

[@rajendrachavan9608]

During battle of britain most of Luftwaffe aircraft's were shot down by Poles,Czech & French pilots, they were the highest scorers.

[@nicholasbrock1287]

I enjoyed this but the only vaguely realistic dog fight scenes I’ve seen in recent years are in Dunkirk.

[@jandoernte8970]

Really? I thought every aerial sequence in that movie super simplistic. Almost exclusively side to side weaving?

[@Melvorgazh]

The German fighters could barely stay 15-20 min over London. Now, how could they end in Ireland? ??

[@fireems1187]

because plot gass lasts longer

[@Melvorgazh]

So it is not realistic then? Unless they were late Messerchmitt models with extra tanks maybe?

[@fireems1187]

No I believe not. Those Bf 109s are E models, you can tell by looking at the horizontal stabilizer, it is externally braced. Under idle conditions (favorable tail wind, NOT IN COMBAT WITH THROTLE TO THE FIREWALL) The 109E could have JUST make Ireland on a one way trip. The E model only had a range of 640km. On my charts, if the 109 took of from a costal air field in France, it would have barely made the coast. So it is movie plot fuel.

[@brachio1000]

+Melvorgazh: Once the German pilot got caught up in the fight, he had to give up on making it back to France. That's the way I figure it.

[@Melvorgazh]

brachio1000 Who are you? Do you know the film makers? Like Simon Pegg as priest. The film is great. Exept that those look like Emil Bf-109s. Now someone else answered me about the suspect huge range. Those 640 km, do they include external tanks? If not that could be a good explanation.

[@shamilasaifi8922]

wow man if you made that its a compleat succes man great job

[@milanprica7513]

Awesome short film. Has some inaccuracies but way better than either Pearl Harbour or Dunkirk.

[@sasarasasarasa]

What a beautiful machine the Spitfire was.

[@331SVTCobra]

But the Bf-109 was the king of "bad"... it is the most menacing looking aircraft EVAR.

[@thanho2282]

What's name of movie?

[@cpj93070]

@@331SVTCobra Menacing yes, doesn't hold a candle looks wise to a Spitfire though.

[@matt53696]

0:37 everytime i am fighting a damn bomber in war thunder

[@thespeeddemon7832]

lmao yes

[@shinchiwarrior]

Any details on this film? Iv never heard of it.

[@juliocesarpereira4325]

Wanna see a movie with realistic and good dogfights? Watch 'The Battle of Britain', made in 1969 with real planes and no CGI.

[@Telsion]

wtf is that bullet drop...

[@user-kg5yj1qx6f]

Bullet is heavy

[@erikakreutz4456]

It’s called Velocity.

[@dixievfd55]

That is vertical and horizontal convergence. Had the bf-109 been where those bullet streams met, it would have been shredded.

[@pauldavidson6321]

That's realism

[@generalsherman1213]

I don't know, I've looked at WWII aircraft a lot and they had a much higher velocity than that. The German MG-FF/M might fire at a velocity like that if it were damaged, but that is still very unlikely and the machine guns would never do that. I think they were trying to overexaggerate the difficulty of aiming to make the scene seem more dramatic.

[@Gittiteufel]

total unrealistic turn from the spitfire xD

[@Tommy-gk6bh]

Yeah that was a little ridiculous

[@hunter.1]

funny is how the bullets of that 20 mm german cannon was like nothing in the wings of the spit "cheater" xD haha

[@trevord.6545]

Plane would rip apart and pilot would black the hell out at that speed, provided a maneuver like that was even possible

[@Spacegoat92]

That's the thing i don't like about these CGI dog fights. They make piston engine planes fly like jets and make them do moves that just wouldn't be possible without ripping the wings off!!

[@stopstalkingmyaccount7081]

the Spitfire's engine had an issue which meant it couldn't go directly up or down for a significant amount of time without very quickly stalling, he does verticals like 5 times tho

[@manizaeim]

big damn jock! it is not personal, take it easy! :D

[@RonWylie-gk5lc]

That denial of physics was almose worthy of a Red Tails scene lol

[@fastfingers110]

i have not seen a ww2 movie yet that has realistic dog fights

[@Myuutsuu85]

This one included? Aye. I can belive that one would try to get rather close to the enemy to score an actual hit, but flying straight in a line while under fire is nothing any pilot would have done back then. Well, at least not those who actually survived their first engagement.

[@markusmittwoch857]

Than watch battle of britain from 1969.

[@travishillsthedarkangelbun504]

Dunkirk is One.

[@davegeisler7802]

Those .303 hits by the British fighters , you must get in close to kill anything. They really needed 20 mm Hispano cannons during the Battle of Britain , but I guess the .303 worked well enough . It sure put the lead downrange albeit small 🇬🇧

[@leopolitan1914]

I´ve just jumped into this after watching the ending of Where Eagles Dare. Modern films are such drivel.

[@ShockeWulf190]

0:30 A War Thunder pilots least favourite thing happened, that's how you waste half of your ammo on guns conv. Distance.

[@samburkes7552]

Very true..why you have to set your reflex gunsight for range, size of enemy plane, any deflection correcting, etc..or you'll surely exhaust your ammo supply. Multiple guns on those planes could only carry just so much. Weight factors to be considered too..And also knowing pretty much where your gun patterns harmonize/converge out ahead, along with the gunsight reticle..

[@andreicorrea5190]

1:11 YOU HAVE A HOLE ON YOUR LEFT WING!

[@andreeabriam5007]

Best vid i watched

[@Tommy-gk6bh]

The RAF kicked ass.

[@ironeagel9235]

Fun fact. What you saw on the Spitfire at the end, the half shot down painted on the fuselage. That was not the case with the Germans. Either you had a witness to the shooting down or he didn't count. And yet the top 62 Fighter pilots in the world are Germans with hundreds of kills. And that although many of their kills were probably not counted.

[@74MikeBike]

You need to do some more research. The German Jagdfliegers over-claimed like every other pilot in the war. During the Battle of Britain the ratio of German claims to actual British losses was worse than 2-1. The Germans did have lots of high scoring Aces, but their victory totals are a function of the fact their opponents were flying mostly inferior types... i.e. Soviets... and the Soviets had abysmal tactics and many aircraft did not have radio communications. Against Western opponents with up to date aircraft the Jagdfliege did much worse.

[@ironeagel9235]

@@74MikeBike But you know that many of the great German aces, such as Mölders, Galland, Marseille and many others have won most of their kills against Western Allies? The top 64 Pilots in the World are Germans. This also includes many from WW1.

[@robv1139]

Inaccuracies aside, I thought I was very good entertainment. Thought the effects have held up well too!

[@Hapz1998]

Yes, they had.

[@19SCHNIX]

Where I can watch the full film??

[@txstbobcats5108]

The spit could out turn the 109 but couldn't retain energy well nor could it operate functionally for fighting at higher altitudes and the speed I reckon that spit was turning would have ripped apart, the 109 also would have destroyed that spit due to the 20 mm cannons

[@havefun4133]

Do you just want to try to speak like a teacher or smth ? There is a lot of largely more irrealistic points in this hollywood clip lol. By the way, "The spit"? which spit? and which 109? there were 24 spit models. And many 109s. They had different energy retention. And energy retention also depends of a lot of external factor than the aircraft model. Like angle of attack, speed, alt, fuel, dammage taken, ammuntion left, bombs left, etc .. Then an aircraft could have the better energy situation in a situation and not in an other. It seems more complicate than just "109 had better energy retention than the Spit", specificly for 2 aircraft which were very similar as their pilots said. And I heard the spit had a very nice enegry retention, so who should I trust? Sorry for my english.

[@melchiorvonsternberg844]

@@havefun4133 The Messerschmidt, dive and climb faster and had the better weapons. The spit (at 1940), is better in other maneuvers and a bit faster. The rest, depends on the pilot. And that's normally a point for the Germans in 1940...

[@silience4095]

@@havefun4133 Well, the 109 in the video just came out from a dive, and the spitfire was either climbing or not flying particularly fast, and then did a hard right turn to chase the 109. There is no world where the spitfire catches that 109 in that situation, not in the short term.

[@RedditzGG]

If this was a War thunnder match. . . It'll be like: Critical Hit, Aircraft Collision, Gun Jammed XD

[@flaviogenuardi4823]

Ciao a tutti, avrei bisogno di alcune informazioni su questo FIlm, dovrei comperarlo per la mia collezione, sapete dove posso trovarlo? Grazie

[@Karina2126]

Is this from a movie?

[@elestromusicgamesfun1101]

0:40 - Bilbo!!

[@sonerkaya8079]

Shire-Bagginsss

[@hotshot0476]

You got but good man lol the hobbit is my fav movie series.

[@matthewconnelly4930]

He fought orcs and the Germans

[@cbwelch4]

Hahhahhaahaaha

[@thatredfokker]

Great film with amazing visuals. Crazy how the full film is only 10 minutes long, yet it's one of my favorites to watch. These smaller, more unpopular films need more attention. Sure, it's unrealistic. But it's a movie, not a documentary. If it's a movie meant to entertain and portray in an entertaining manner, who cares if it's unrealistic? They did great on the models themselves too! Don't crap on a movie because it ain't up to your standards, comment-section-'historians'. I've flown hours in IL-2 Sturmovik and FSX along with other games like WarThunder, but this film was never meant to be fully realistic, it was meant to entertain. There is a mighty large difference between "Entertaining" and "Simulating". If you don't appreciate the 'unrealism', find a documentary elsewhere. Trying to make yourself look like an expert over a low-budget movie, that many involved worked hard on with what little they were given, makes you look careless and ungrateful. Appreciate their efforts, try not to look for what you consider 'mistakes'.

[@Elkabong53708]

I tried to Amazon this...what is the name of this film?

[@Kilkoster]

Tell me please, from what movie?

[@Falconcoder]

This is not how it works. That's not how any of this works. You can't just burn for a full 360 degrees and expect to have half of the energy you started with. The german could have been deemed the victor the instant the spitfire made that 360.

[@CaesarCassius]

Vorsprung durch Technik

[@yodef6828]

1:53 *Extreme overload 38G*

[@hunormagyar1843]

Ikr it's so bad... So few films get aircraft movement realistic that it's ridiculous.

[@curtismes]

1st time I have seen bullet drop depicted in a dogfight...I liked it...well done...crash scene not so much

[@mericyaman5152]

Very good pilot