Masters of the Air Clip - Bombs On Berlin (2024)

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[@DavidFPV360]

Wtf those bomb explosions look like warthunder on mid settings 💀💀

[@user-cl2kq7jd3q]

worse

[@bazle64]

Gtx 1050 ti settings 😂

[@Martin-117]

Am I the only one seeing a downgrade in picture quality and use of CGI since the old glory days of Band of brother's and The Pacific?

[@scania1982]

This CGI is not good

[@StabbyCel]

It's not mindblowing, but it gets the job done and looks reasonably well. We don't talk about marvel cgi lmao But yes I do agree

[@redactedredacted4080]

You be Trippin bro

[@Candiedbacon75]

Pacific is the best IMO. Got tired of BOB from watching it so much lol. Wasn't to impressed with MOA especially with the last few episodes that went to shit after they built it up so much. It was all just such a let down and CGI didnt help any.

[@Glorious2288]

Happy with the show overall, but the CGI isn’t great. It’s comically bad in the first shot of the P-51s. They look like the same cardboard cutouts flying across the screen

[@sussysenpai1712]

The CGI made it look like they shot this scene in Google Earth

[@Xingmey]

the CGI makes it look, like some unpaid intern did it. this is laughable bad.

[@CasualClinkz]

Wtf where does it look like that? Wtf

[@spacegerrit9499]

lol wtf. This CGI is like a cutscene from a early 2000's videogame.

[@aurorathekitty7854]

The P51 was almost a footnote in history. Wasn't until a royal air force test pilot suggested sticking a Merlin engine in it and then it became the best plane of the war

[@Bo_Nidle]

Best escort fighter definitely. Best plane of the war is open to debate and I say that as a Mustang fan with 45 minutes stick time in the real thing. The term "Best Fighter" has to be qualified. Best escort fighter in terms of range definitely, but other than it didn't out shine every other fighter in all respects at all. Was it a very good fighter, yes, but "the best" is a broad claim. Dogfighter? That title would have to go to the Spitfire which was better armed, (cannons beat MG's, even .50BMG) more agile and had a better rate of climb. Ground attack? The Typhoon wins that one with its 4 x 20mm cannons, 8 or even 16 x 60lb rockets and/or bombs. All rounder? That would probably be the Fw190. Most successful in terms of kills goes to the Bf109. Like I said, the term is open to debate.

[@MrNgarcia]

dear God. you have no idea what an "extra tank" can do for mileage. do your homework you idiot. You Brits would be speaking German.....

[@alanjm1234]

I'd argue that "Best plane of the war" would be the Mosquito. It excelled in so many roles.

[@jacobclement8150]

​@@Bo_Nidle I suggest you get more stick time

[@Bo_Nidle]

@@jacobclement8150 I would love to get more stick time but it’s a bit expensive. However my reasoning is based on facts not blind patriotism. You can break it down by nationality and amongst US fighters in the ETO, the P-47 would give the P-51 a good run for the title. Other than range and top speed the P-47 was better armed with 8 x .50s, and had a higher dive speed than any other fighter. It could take a lot more punishment than the P-51. In the ETO the second highest scoring outfit in the 8th USAAF was the 56th Fighter Group which stuck with the P-47 through out the war. (Technically it’s the top scoring group in the 8th as the top scoring group was the 354th which was a 9th USAAF group on attachment to the 8th)The top two USAAF aces in the ETO, Gabreski and Johnson, both flew with the 56th in P-47’s. As I said the term “best” is open to debate.

[@chodonas]

those special effects when the bombs detonate are more like 2010

[@LiberRaider]

Thought the same thing, like wtf wtf?

[@tiadaid]

Just like all Apple products, then.

[@Ccarnage8]

They were worse than 2010. CGI was at it's hight in early and mid 2000s as far as realism blended into movies. There is an entire KZbin video talking about the decline in CGI

[@helloitsmehb]

@@Ccarnage8 Pretty sure the CGI we have now has much more realism than 20 years ago. Just not this piece

[@liamkisbee8117]

​@helloitsmehb nope you are wrong, cgi has downgraded alot since the 2010 days. Down to cost, like everything these days, cheap cheap and lots of profit.

[@UmurKaragoz]

Visual effect team consist of one guy called Jeff, who did the work for free in his mom's basement using his 10 year old desktop PC which could barely run CS:GO

[@Wrongsideofnow]

Good work Jeff! Maybe not do it after an all nighter next time

[@Firesword534]

Damn, I was looking forward to this series. Considering "Band of Brothers," and "The Pacific," did really well I was hoping for the same. Yet, this one clip makes me rethink that. Even the closest in Mustangs would still be 1,000 feet above the bomber stream, not flying through the formation. The second he P-51's spotted enemy planes, they'd ditch the drop tanks, the P-51's started out in "Finger Four," formation but later changed to Line Abreast. This just hurts.

[@jte5829]

Why are there 675 fighters dogfighting at once in one square mile of sky?

[@CasualClinkz]

About 40 German fighters engage and on that mission about 175 mustangs escorted. While 450 bomber we're heading for Berlin. Honestly how fucking ballsy can you be to go head on with that shit. Insanity. Also almost 600 planes right there

[@LaminarSound]

@@CasualClinkz fucking ballsy is right. I think all of those men had balls the size of cantelopes to go up every day on those runs. All of them... fighters, bombers, navigators. Im certain I wouldve been vomiting before every mission from the nerves. Just mere boys most of them. Im eternally grateful.

[@jgyuri]

It's a cube mile

[@MikeJones-qn1gz]

For the sake of the scene, in reality a bomber crewman might only see one or two fighters engaging around the formation and keep in mind the speeds at which these aircraft are flying, if they were more realistic the only thing you would see is a flash as a fighter went by a bomber which isn't very good for entertainment

[@robertschmidt7625]

You would be seeing shock wave rings in those explosions.

[@anshuldwivedi1919]

Correct.. which you'd expect to see from a series that is built around bombing

[@LaurensPP]

To anyone who is wondering about it: this is NOT how aerial combat looked, looks or will ever look.

[@fallintoadream]

@@Ghostfacewutango 2 spankings

[@ffjsb]

@@Ghostfacewutango Go back down into your mom's basement kid. You're just a POS keyboard commando.

[@mtpstv94]

@@Ghostfacewutango You need the spanking. He's right. It's common sense. And if you need to be told why, well that just indicates your lack of intelligence. Not someone else.

[@dystopianfuture1165]

@@Ghostfacewutango3 spankings

[@Kontorotsui]

you're right.

[@whiteknightcat]

There appear to be more P51's than bombers, and far more enemy fighters than Germany could ever have mustered by that time. I'd also take issue with the huge streams of large bombs dropping out of the bays - reminds me of the endless quiver of arrows or gun-of-infinite-bullets in movies.

[@mrw1783]

And planes they lost count of how many planes were in groups and formations.

[@themojaveranger4574]

The funny thing is that a b17 would drop 40 100 pounds bombs on a light industrial center like this one, so there's actually about 12 other bombs missing, the big inaccurate is how fast they are dropping them and that they are not following the lead navigators signal drop all together on the target, the big problem of the show is the plane never changes when by this point in the war the lead navigators plane would have a radar instead of a ball turret and all of the b17 would have had a chin turret installed, not to mention there are almost zero tactics in this fight for example the lead bomber would have one initial smoke bomb so the rest of the group could see the signal to drop bombs at this time all the other bombardiers in the group just toggled the release switch and didn't use the bomb sights

[@whiteknightcat]

@@themojaveranger4574True. Another video showed in detail the loadouts for the planes for this specific mission, and they were indeed carrying 40 bombs each - 30 incendiaries and 10 general demolition.

[@sean_d]

That scene at 2:09 is like something from Battlestar Galactica. Why do CGI people always go way too far with air combat? The whole point is to make a scene seem real, not to show off CGI. After Band of Brothers this is disappointing. (Edited to tone down the language).

[@underarmbowlingincidentof1981]

not even Battlestar Galactica more like a swarm of gnats on speed xD

[@SDGreg]

Band of Brothers really didn't have to deal with battles of this scale since they focused in on small battles. These bomber missions are different with hundreds if not thousand plus aircraft.

[@phillipr61]

Over critical ,12 year olds, yourre 13 i take it

[@sean_d]

@@phillipr61Well, on reflection you have a point. It was a knee-jerk reaction to some of the disappointing moments and was indeed overly critical. I will edit my original reponse and tone it down.

[@bryantorresacosta8734]

Señor no lo conozco pero estoy seguro que hubieron cientos o quizá miles de aviones volando en los cielos de Europa y Alemania cuando lanzaban bombas sobre objetivos, en el 2:09 estoy seguro que si sucedió, tal vez no tane exactamente como es pero estoy seguro que si hubo choques de aviones; me refiero a dogfither. Entonces el cgi lo hizo bien.

[@Hagmire]

Memphis Belle will be the only WW2 movie with real B17s and fighters flying for a movie, everything since has been CGI, part of that is the cost of operation and insurance BS, the other half is you could never recreate a scene like this without CGI

[@brianelchlepp2245]

Try "The War Lover" with McQueen and Wagner. Used B-17G's and combat footage. Movie is not bad and some of the flying is pretty amazing flying including a field buzzing scene that'll blow your ming. "12 O'clock High uses real B-17's also and was an Oscar winner.

[@LigBoi]

And there are only like 2 B17s still flyable

[@WBookout10]

​@@brianelchlepp2245Buddy, when were those movies made? You missed the point entirely.

[@aguynamedscott11]

@@WBookout10I think perhaps you missed the point.

[@alanjm1234]

"Battle Of Britain" used real aircraft. But also some models. Still, excellent combat footage, far better than this.

[@Wildcat221]

This series was awesome.

[@eldermaxon697]

POV me and the bois going in for our PPL checkride

[@gewalfofwoofia8263]

Wow, so many YT certified WW2 experts over here 😂

[@L0stEngineer]

Well, of course. The greatest generation is all but gone. All that's left are the stories and the ones who read them.

[@wnose]

They were there, man... You just don't get it

[@whiteknightcat]

I was there, 3,000 years ago!

[@itorapadas]

The cgi of the Mustangs at 0:08 looked like it was copied and pasted from a single cgi plane. So I froze one frame and yes it looked like it was.

[@drivernz2609]

lol, u r right

[@ussindianapolis487]

those mustangs look more like the Ki-61 Hien lol.

[@the_dudeguy]

Great costumes and set design in the bomber but holy shit it looks like the intro to revenge of the sith lol

[@CasualClinkz]

Awesome?

[@joshewing3504]

We’re all the P-51s on the same mission? And why on earth are they flying through the bomber formation?

[@CasualClinkz]

This happened it's called close protection. It was ineffective but it was used. But mostly this was filmmakers choice to get the point across. And the 51 s had to keep pace with the bombers to not be in Berlin and back when they didn't even get there yet

[@haitolawrence5986]

@@CasualClinkz What a load of utter bollox. Escorts only flew top cover for their own protection from nervous and edgy bomber gunners. RAF Spitfires could only escort them to the coast at one point and they would flash their wings when approaching to indicate that they were friendlies.

[@CasualClinkz]

@@haitolawrence5986 not only but ok. Every nation experimented with close protection and found out it was ineffective as I said. That's why I said filmmakers choice to fit the frame. I suggest actually reading comments. Also the British like you said couldn't even escort

[@sneakydv97]

warthunder needs to add this as a gamemode

[@meepy2739]

They kinda did

[@helilivesmatter1075]

The Operation Guardian Angel game mode was removed in 2019 unfortunatly

[@1FokkerAce]

WOW….. I had never actually noticed the “bad CGI” in some of the other clips until this one. That is absurd. I have BofB and the Pacific, but I don’t even think I’ll seek this out to watch it. Talk about a suspension of disbelief killer. The P51s at the beginning look like a repeating rolling screed superimposed over the film it’s so bad. I’d expect that from a rotating lamp shade to keep kids entertained at night.

[@EvilLordBane]

Out of all the (many) inaccuracies depicted in this clip, none of them infuriates me more than the line "The P-51 Mustang was the best (US) fighter plane of the war." No, it wasn't. The P-38 Lightning had the highest kill ratio of any US aircraft in WW2, the highest number of kills, the first US fighter aircraft to shoot down a German aircraft, used to shoot down Admiral Yamamoto's personal aircraft on April 18, 1943. I can go on and on about this aircraft, my favorite of the second world war.

[@johnmcdonald157]

I new a couple of men who survived the air war over Europe in B 17s. One was a ball turret gunner. They said the B 17 could take a lot of punishment and keep flying.

[@Candiedbacon75]

I knew an older gentleman whose dad was in the air war and he had a picture of him standing on the side of his B17 raising his arms and legs spread out like a star where a piece of flak blew it to shit that he had to ride back in. Crazy

[@user-np2tl6zz8s]

Nice video 👍🏻

[@Mikazuki_Augus]

maybe some scene is unrealistic to others but i think they just want to show us how hundred of plane clashing in the air look like

[@zaknoten7854]

2:09 I’m sorry but is just a little chaotic to be realistic

[@andrewsmith3613]

There is a widely unrealistic number of planes involved in this aerial battle.

[@CasualClinkz]

Nope accurate look at stats and numbers

[@dylanmelotti4301]

Open and read a 6th grade history book. . .

[@daviddougan6961]

Some of those raids had 700 P-51s escorting the bombers. It was a wild west show for sure.

[@rileygladue3979]

If this was early war maybe, but it's late-war so it definitely isn't

[@evanswinford7165]

My dad was a waist gunner on a B26, 9th AAC.

[@lorenblueearth5657]

That’s one hell of a dog fight over Berlin damn

[@johnmurphy7953]

Haven't seen the whole thing, but CGI as of 2024 seems to rely on overcast, twilight or glare and dirty windows. Scott's Napoleon had similar low light or visual impairment. Also there seem to be too many aircraft in one place. It looks dramatic, but the fighters would be more spread out. The bomber crews felt that they were being used as bait because the P-51s were freed from close escort of the bombers and turned loose to hunt Luftwaffe fighters.

[@CasualClinkz]

Not low light it's daytime. But you're right with the escorts. Tho the fighters would have to keep pace with the bombers so for some of the time.they were in fact close by. Also some of this is filmmakers choice to get the point across since most people don't know shit about this

[@johnmurphy7953]

Hazy light to mask the CGI limitations (instead of low light). @@CasualClinkz

[@CasualClinkz]

@@johnmurphy7953 all of your points are artistic choices like depth and visual differences. cgi is only limited by the amount of work put into it.

[@johnmurphy7953]

To be fair to the "Masters", they had to create an entire air force and keep it in motion during the battle scenes. With "Battle of Britain", some surviving aircraft and remote control models were the options used. Surviving aircraft are now almost non-existent. I'm sure CGI will get even better as it progresses. @@CasualClinkz

[@cesarespinozaspain]

2:09 WW2 Macross style.

[@bmvhusky]

Amazing scene. Imagine the feeling of those in the B-17s who survived 1943 finally getting fighter escorts the whole way to their targets and back. The first half of 1944, the mustangs took out so many German aircraft in the skies and parked at Airfields, thousands of them, that the Luftwaffe was unable to provide any arial defense in France during D-day. All they could provide was defense of Germany going forward. Hermann Goring: "When I saw Mustangs over Berlin, I knew the jig was up."

[@haitolawrence5986]

The Mustangs would not be flying inside the formations. That would be committing suicide given the anxiety of the B-17 gunners.

[@janandersen8735]

The Mustang was certainly the best escort fighter, i.e. able to first fly 400 miles and still have enough fuel to dog fight and get back home. However, and staying in Europe, once engaged in a dog fight, the FW190 and the Spitfire Mark9 and beyond were superior. The Spitfire Mark14, was the best pure dogfighter of WW2.

[@theopot5798]

spitfires and Yakolev -9 , Focker Wulf FW190 were the best fighters in WW2

[@holdenmcgroin8699]

Why the dogfights’ too fast? This isn’t very accurate imo

[@teencomment]

2:08 Now THAT'S a furball!

[@user-jyanome-daisuki]

僕のイメージでは、P-51DがB-17編隊をエスコートし出したのは、銀翼のB-17Gの頃だと思ってたけど、本当に動画の様にF型の時に達成できてたのかな？確か最初は、P-38やP-47が全航程は、無理でも大半をエスコト出来てた様な？F型の頃は、フランス海岸線辺りまでスピットファイアーがエスコートしてたイメージです。

[@justsavetheplace]

B-17s dropping B-52 sized payloads. Sheesh.

[@hienthanhnguyen]

what Movie Tilte?

[@viewsoul]

The f**kin Annabelle at @0:21

[@user-sj8jo7lx3z]

『バンド・オブ・ブラザース』から『ザッパシフィック』の流れ的に、次はB29の話かな？

[@themusers03]

Memphis Belle still the best movie about the B-17 bomber.

[@mikeandrews2851]

The Fw-190 was just as good as the P-51

[@phillipr61]

Every plane has strenghts and weaknesses, that said, the us pilots were better and also better quality fuel

[@generalposlijebitke6688]

@@phillipr61 In the list of Top 100 ww2 pilots, all of them are German...

[@toxicfireball2690]

@@generalposlijebitke6688Those list don’t matter, both sides had different policies in regard to veteran pilots. The Western Allies retired veteran pilots to use them to train, the germans kept them on the frontline. By 1944 when the Mustang was introduced german pilot quality had significantly degraded and were far below allied pilot quality

[@generalposlijebitke6688]

@@toxicfireball2690 Sure, they were outnumbered from the start of the war...

[@itscoolgame2]

​@@generalposlijebitke6688hellcat pilots:

[@markbrandon7359]

Unless those are 100 lb bombs this is inaccurate in order to make it to Berlin and back the B17 had to replace 1/2 of it's bombs with extra fuel and even a full load was not 20 1,000 Lb bombs max load was 8,000 Lb's and 4,000 to Berlin remember the B17 was a pre war design

[@hivelx]

The CGI used is also from WW1 era

[@gamm8939]

So apparently, 250 Million Dollars gets you *checks notes* 2008 Video game CGI

[@DariusMartinez-gj6oy]

There's the red tails escuadron? P51. 😮🎉🎉🎉

[@MrRugbylane]

Never have so many rivets been counted so often by so few

[@frankdamato8405]

I hear ya but understandable, MOA graphics look like 20yr old video game, considering hype/wait/producers I expected more. Still, as a B-17 and 8th AAF fan I like it... 😊👍

[@user-fl6te2eq7h]

Мустанг так то самолёт супер красавчик , особенно в истории .

[@mcpefruitgaming9269]

i thought this was video game

[@bmused55]

For anyone even thinking of saying "That's too many bombs dropping...etc": kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2Gro2qNlKdnpcU

[@whiteknightcat]

Thank you for that. It explained a lot.

[@kon8459]

This should be top comment,

[@steveteversham9974]

Although watchable its not a patch on BOB

[@Hallmackenreuter1967]

Locks like Star Wars not like WWII. Or was WWiI earlier?

[@user-vt8bm5vz2g]

Сколько бы сшататы не рисовали и не снимали фильмов, победу в этой войне одержал советский человек! Спасибо все, кто отдал свои жизни, здоровье и пот для этой победы! А американским и британским политикам, с их двуличными планами, стоило открыть второй фронт раньше! Но мы то знаем, чего запад хотел на самом деле! Чёртовы переписчики истории! Слова Советскому Народу Освободителю!!! Смерть фашистам и нацистам!

[@TheMaximBond]

Они так-то с фашистами воевали с 39 года еще на разных фронтах, когда сталин с ними были ближайшими союзничками и чуть ли не в десны целовался.

[@Leo-eh8hm]

Лечись, если бы не помощь от США в виде ленд-лиза то ссср прекратил бы своё существование ещё бы в 1943 году, чего только стоят операции союзников в Африке, западной Европе и освобождение Италии, битвы в тихом океане. Пока ссср еле еле воевал отправляя мясо на убой с заградительными отрядами.

[@scottfranklin6186]

Where heck they carry that many bombs? The bomb bay isn't that large.

[@roboman0516]

They actually carried more than is shown in these clips. For this mission they were armed with 30 100 pound incendiary bombs and 10 100 pound general purpose bombs, the scenes shows somewhere around 25-30 from each bomber.

[@justsavetheplace]

Those are NOT 100-pounders nor are the monster explosions below how incendiaries behave. Very, VERY Hollywood bordering on disrespect for the subject matter.

[@crappycontents]

War Thunder Experience

[@SL-zw5nj]

its like watching anime but... is it better or worse...?

[@jamesboardman7048]

Seems like alot of p 51 flying around,

[@jurgenh.7980]

Heading 253 with a slight left turn to get to target? Did they approach Berlin from the south? Did not watch the series yet. Which run is this supposed to be? Ok so it shows the Erkner raid on 8th of March. Actually not that easy to find concrete infos. I guess they were operating from italy?

[@stopmotionwarehouse8986]

Thorpe abbots, England

[@frankdamato8405]

Heading 253° is heading SW, planes would be NE of target. Still, one would think planes would approach from West, maybe diff route to avoid fighters/flak.. 🤔👍

[@ShowtimeWorthy]

Pretty soon the overuse of CGI will create more and more inaccurate depictions of these planes.

[@justsavetheplace]

As did the movie "Midway" that starred Woody Harrelson as Admiral Nimitz for God's sake.

[@jjhpor]

No one can doubt the bravery and sacrifice of these airmen in the war. I grew up in the 1950s and must have built a plastic or balsa model of 20 different types of WW2 airplanes. But: It is well known that the strategic bombing of Europe was a waste of lives and treasure. It accomplished virtually nothing to shorten the war. Hitler's armnamen minister, Albert Speer said so in his memoirs and the U.S. Strategic Bombing Survery after the war agreed. If you think about the little damage done to London by German bombesr or from the buzz-bombs and V2s the message is the same. Winning a war takes "boots on the ground" and control of natural resources. All that the bombing does is make people angry. Ask the Ukranians.

[@BarryAllen__1A23]

Yes because Albert Speer definitely did not have a bias of his own and definitely did not just make stuff up to make the allies in the bad light. Whether you like it or not strategic airstrikes heavily impacted the war. Factories, oil rigs and bridges being destroyed will severely hurt the military capability of the enemy. Bombs can easily be manufactured, while destroyed roads and other infrastructures takes a significant time and resources for the enemy slowing them down even further. Aerial supremacy is still an integral part of every military in the world. Boots in the ground is why the eastern front was bloody and aerial supremacy is why the western allies have significantly lower casualties than the soviets

[@meatloaf5772]

Is it just me or does it feel like the quality of CGI and special effects has noticeably gone down? What's more the decline is a recent phenomenon. Why is this happening?

[@Paratus7]

B17 didn’t have that many bombs! It had half the bomb load of a Lancaster. Defending Fighters never….never…flew through a bomber formation. 50 cal guns didn’t have gun sights on the barrels. Precision bombing (as the USAAF claimed they did) was defined as; ‘within 10 miles of the target’. So many mistakes…..

[@AB-mw8oz]

The March 8th 1944 mission striking the VKF Ball Bearing Works in Erkner just outside of Berlin. All 100th Bomb Group B-17s on that mission were loaded with 40 100lbs bombs. The 351st Bomb Group dropped in total 861 100lbs bombs on that mission. There is a good video by WWII US Bombers breaking down that mission because like you many assumed it was an error

[@qwerk707]

The Norden bombsight released the bombs. There wasn’t any switches being switched. This show keeps getting that wrong

[@d53101]

The producers might have thought the audience needed something visual when the bombardier says “Bombs Away.”

[@bmused55]

@@d53101Bingo Just like they chose to have the escort fighters fly amongst the bombers. It's more visually interesting

[@ThePhantomMajor]

What was the P-51 doing in 1939? 1940? 1941? 1942? Only started performing in '43 with a British engine....

[@andsoiderparound9909]

Ever heard of research and development? The only reason they got the Merlin engine is because it was a joint venture.

[@alexanderrees1882]

@@andsoiderparound9909the Merlin? Not originally a joint venture far as I know, the USA licensed it sure, but it was 100% British design work.

[@andsoiderparound9909]

@@alexanderrees1882 I’m talking about the aircraft not the engine. Since the British use the Mustang first in combat.

[@saintcrx6567]

Britain would have been wiped out without the US, so stfu, were allies for a reason

[@charles07km83]

This episode take place in March 1944

[@kuzmichm1522]

Когда на Западе создают подобные фильмы, то всегда показывают, как страдают от бомбардировок английские дети. И это правда, дети - например дети Ковентри - страдали и их страдания ужасны. Но "почему-то" в таких фильмах не показывают, как от бомбардировок союзников страдали немецкие дети. Или дети Дрездена не так важны, как дети Ковентри?

[@Jose.AFT.Saddul]

They did show German kids killed after Eagan gets shot down and sees the aftermath of an RAF night raid.

[@gavincollins9376]

2;10 seriously....

[@user-mu8ov5yn8m]

2:50 Война всегда возвращается туда, откуда пошла. Кто радовался чужим руинам- получит свои. Русские, это я вам говорю. Читайте Ремарка.

[@trumanbentley9491]

This is how Western mankind was ruined. This was awful that war.

[@nicolas6226]

P51 best fighter ? What about Tempest, FW, BF ? ...

[@Bo_Nidle]

The claim that the Mustang was "the best" does not hold up under scrutiny, and I say that as a Mustang fan with 45 minutes stick time in the real thing. The term "Best Fighter" has to be qualified. Best escort fighter in terms of range definitely, but other than it didn't out shine every other fighter in all respects at all. Was it a very good fighter, yes, but "the best" is a broad claim. Dogfighter? That title would have to go to the Spitfire which was better armed, (cannons beat MG's, even .50BMG) more agile and had a better rate of climb. Ground attack? The Typhoon wins that one with its 4 x 20mm cannons, 8 or even 16 x 60lb rockets and/or bombs. All rounder? That would probably be the Fw190. Most successful in terms of kills goes to the Bf109. Like I said, the term has to be approached cautiously.

[@CarlWicker]

That's a lot of bad CGI

[@AOD_AnkGrooger]

"p51-mustang by far the best fighter plane of the war" Yet BF-109's later models outclassed it. British spitfire later models also outclassed it. America was always behind on aircraft design. theirs only worked so well because of how many they had.

[@israeliairstrikeonyourhous2068]

Lmao cite your fucking sources then buddy. The P51 and all of America’s fighters were better and more advanced than any country you just mentioned. We had the best production and the economy to back it.

[@israeliairstrikeonyourhous2068]

Outclassed in what? Nothing lmao the p51 was better than all those models you just mentioned.

[@yorick5073]

It's being said by an American pilot of course he's going to be biased

[@AOD_AnkGrooger]

@@israeliairstrikeonyourhous2068 p-51 had slow turn rate and a max speed about half of that of a spit fires. in what way were they better? lmao

[@israeliairstrikeonyourhous2068]

@@AOD_AnkGrooger again, cite your sources lmao. And you through in the bf-109 in there like we wouldn’t notice. You’re just jealous of untouchable American air power

[@Nikola-mechan]

Что за фильм?

[@killaalakabam6207]

Masters of the air.

[@charliepat1285]

Err..p51 best fighter plane in the war?,,in America maybe,,in the world war,,the legendary super marine spitfire,,,even the Germans wanted them🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@nickdanger3802]

20,000 Spits built and yet for some reason GB needed over 2,000 Lend Lease P51's.

[@ultrajd]

The CGI was awful in this. I mean you couldn’t tell that the 17s were fake. But it was pretty blatantly obvious that the P 51s and most of all the bombs were all fake. And don’t even get me started on the terrible explosion effects of the actual bombs hitting the city. After the masterpieces that were band of Brothers and the Pacific, I have to say I’m not exactly pleased with what I’m seeing with this one.

[@justin36004]

Parts of the CGI were terrible, but not all.

[@Greysquirrel98]

Right? The bomb explosions were terrible!!!!

[@seniorslaphead8336]

@@justin36004 Some of the CGI was passable, most of it was laughably bad.

[@thenewyorkredneck4735]

Protest this happening today by them and you loose your job. Then glorifying us doing it to eachother and you buy a ticket. Pitiful

[@lawren7615]

Why do movies these days seem to be a washed out green blue?

[@suissdagout5153]

Who wins?🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉?

[@Quickyprd]

Looks like good PC game...not like CGI movie :-/

[@JoeXTheXJuggalo1]

The CGI in this makes the Scorpion King from Mummy 2 seem halfway barrable to watch.

[@ExitKills]

P-51 Mustang? The best fighter plane of the war??? I'm sorry but both the Spitfire and the BF 109 take the cake there

[@robwolosek2613]

"Roger That." About the dumbest thing I'd like very much to stop hearing.

[@rapha2667]

terrible cgi. Looks like a video game

[@a1aprospects470]

How are channel fake "creators" able to use recently released copyrighted clips on monetized channels? Isn't this theft?

[@chriswalker4370]

This is supposed to be a very good series, but if they'd just used a computer game to do the CGI for them - that bombing sequence looks terrible.

[@charles07km83]

The Me109K, th FW190D, Tempest and the Spitfire were superior to the P51 lol

[@shawnjohnson9763]

The P51 could hold its own in every measure against almost any aircraft. But, it a massive advantage in range and the pilots were better trained than the Germans at this point.

[@charles07km83]

@@shawnjohnson9763 yeah, the RAF and the Luftwaffe were the mvps. Th USAAF and the Soviet Air force just use their Numbers as an advantage

[@amuzaulo752]

I think Eric Brown, the UK's premiere test pilot at the time, summed it up more fairly: "The Mustang was a good fighter and the best escort due to its incredible range, make no mistake about it. It was also the best American dogfighter. But the laminar flow wing fitted to the Mustang could be a little tricky. It could not by any means out-turn a Spitfire. No way. It had a good rate-of-roll, better than the Spitfire, so I would say the plusses to the Spitfire and the Mustang just about equate. If I were in a dogfight, I'd prefer to be flying the Spitfire. The problem was I wouldn't like to be in a dogfight near Berlin, because I could never get home to Britain in a Spitfire!"

[@charles07km83]

@@amuzaulo752 in conclusion. Spitfire>P51, FW190D>Spitfire or FW190D=Spitfire

[@liamfarnell6638]

Its really not that simple​@charles07km83

[@mannionmax]

Is it me or is the CGI awful? There's more realistic looking video games than this!

[@d53101]

At most a B17 could carry 8,000 pounds of bombs or 16 500 pound bombs. At longer ranges it would be 4,000 pounds. The B17s in Masters of the Air appear to be dropping twenty or more bombs. Impressive looking though.

[@NapBoney]

Unless they’re smaller incendiary bombs

[@d53101]

@@NapBoney The cutaway shots of the drop from the bomb bays show 500 pound bombs falling from the racks.

[@whiteknightcat]

It turns out that for the actual mission, each plane was loaded with 40 100-pound bombs, 30 M47 incendiary bombs, and 10 M30 general purpose demolition bombs. The CGI in the film showed the planes dropping 28 larger bombs.

[@hellerart]

The heroic music on 1000s dead and Berlin destroyed is a bit weird. Well yes it needed to be done, because of Nazis, but they could have put a bit more tragic into the music. A terrible thing that needed to be done. And gladely has been done. But probably also children and women died in these explosions. For my taste the heroic uplifting music choice at the end is bit too optimistice forgetting the cruelty of war. And that always ALL nations loose many sons, children, fathters, mothers, family members. Unimageneable suffering. The Nazis of course started... Just imagine this music with people on the ground dying in cruel ways cut into the scene...

[@eliaspeter7689]

Yeah I had the same thought. Really making German people look like they don't matter at all.

[@AndrewMitchell-oc6mz]

NOT hands down the best fighter of the war, any more than the B17 was the best bomber. American hype! The FW 190F/G were superior and, with a similarly well-trained pilot, outperformed the P51.

[@nickdanger3802]

Source ?

[@CasualClinkz]

I hate how toxic the ww2 community is. The show looked gorgeous it had a great story. Some stuff might look too much or dramatic but this is to convey scale and cahos that was happening in those times. They did not exaggerate the amount of planes in the air during that time. But what gets me is that people complaign its not exactly historicaly accurate here or there, or that 2 seconds of cgi dont look as good as i want it to look. I get it tk an extend but did we not jsut get a ww2 shoe about b17s that looks awesome and has historically accurate elements and not dumb ass shit like red tails? Just appreciate the terror of combat this show is trying to convey. To me this worked really well and it trips me that people get hung ul on the small stuff. Rant end

[@immortanjoe9362]

That might have been the worst cgi I've seen since the early 2000s. Deplorable.

[@pemudamelayu5666]

y i hate us

[@davecoz4227]

Why no B17-G's?

[@davecoz4227]

@@mr_clean91 Sorry for the spoiler - they don't

[@AFoxintheWild]

That was one gripe that by the D day there were a lot of G model 17s in operation and they failed to be represented in MOA.

[@simunator]

the visuals are so ass, but the writing is half decent. but still falls short. BoB > TP > MoA

[@headeyes3622]

Holy crap the CGI in this show is so terrible. Did the producers really think this was acceptable? What the hell?

[@HorrorTactico]

The fucking google maps at the end lmaoooo

[@Nkzjr]

oh wow - the cgi is horrible :D

[@Instar_nine]

Absolute garbage Turning it into a massive star wars fake cgi fight with way too many planes Prefer the more realistic classic movies Really disappointed Glad I flagged the series