The Ghost and the Darkness (1996). The Story of Failure and Production Hell

[@Mayor_Of_Eureka17]

Failure? This movie didnt fail me in any way. It was legit.

[@KinoReel-c4f]

That's OK, movie was fine.

[@harvillex4284]

I think it flopped

[@harvillex4284]

​@@KinoReel-c4fthe movie was perfect

[@Supervillian4]

Yeah it was alright.

[@harvillex4284]

@@Supervillian4 far from. It was bad ass

[@scottjo63]

Not only was it a great great movie, it featured great great music by Jerry Goldsmith who was still on a roll in making great great music.

[@BigEpinstriping]

The Tsavo lions that inspired this story are still on display in the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago. I've seen them. Very different from what was depicted in the film. The true story is a fascinating one as well.

[@Papa-kj3eh]

Yeah the real ones were female I believe. The males don't hunt.

[@astrosquirrel5038]

Seeing them was what inspired me to see the film. They’re massive and it’s easy to see why they were so dangerous.

[@pitdeadite]

I enjoyed the movie.... but what I like best.... is that the VHS for the film has the original trailer for Christian Slater's Hard Rain.... back when it was known as The Flood. It's one of the greatest trailers I've ever seen.

[@denaco]

sad that 30 minutes of good footage was removed to stroke Douglas's ego

[@josephschenkenfelder1876]

That is not what, the British Empire was expanding, and was racing against other European Empires over control of Africa. America was not a Superpower. Nor, was anybody in America interested in Africa. The engineer of bridge Lieutenant-Colonel John Henry Patterson of the British Army hunted down the loin himself with nobody’s help. John Henry Patterson kept the “female loins” corpse, until his death. The Field’s Museum of Science and Industry brought them from Patterson’s estate, but you would have to actually watch the movie to know that.

[@anthonydileonardo8156]

Kevin Costner was planning to do this right after Dances with Wolves but Paramount screwed him over

[@tombonususa4040]

This is a really good flick. It’s not a failure at all.

[@KinoReel-c4f]

But it is.

[@GothamKnight84661]

No, It isn't to the fans who love this film but to the studio it was due to not making the money it needed to be a hit.

[@tombonususa4040]

@ Siskel & Ebert trashed it when it came out. Which makes no sense as everyone I know likes the flick a lot. Heck, I even have a picture of me and the real Tsavo lions from the Field Museum In Chicago.

[@KinoReel-c4f]

If you like this movie - it is OK, it is you. For some reason many other ppl didn't go to movie theaters and didn't bring their $$$ to show the love. So movie failed. I am pretty sure everybody who was involved in production wanted more ppl ti watch and like this movie (not just you).

[@tombonususa4040]

@@KinoReel-c4f I hear ya. It's just too bad bad because it is a good film.

[@SumeetMahindroo1990]

Val Kilmer in eyeglasses looks like Guy Pearce.

[@ItsTimePictures]

Saw it on the biggest screen in Connecticut when it was released and I thought it was fantastic. Still do.

[@doughorton3635]

This is one of my favourite movies. I never get tired of re-watching it.

[@thedragonlee76]

This is based on a true story,but there's a big part not mentioned.The 2 lions would stalk and eat the workers.Now,what was confusing,was that lions,in the wild, attack to defend its territory or for food.The 2 lions would just attack and kill and kill. Even to this day,animal experts are perplexed.

[@AlpineWoods]

I find it hard to believe that Kilmer didn't cause any trouble on this movie. Difficult actors are typically difficult from movie to movie. He must've been so burned out from The Island of Dr. Moreau and other troubles in his personal life that he had zero energy in him to even create a litte bit of tension on the set.

[@rocketrod1444]

Fantastic film , hoping for a 4k release of this classic .🦁🦁🦁

[@ramandeepsekhon-nn6ps]

I have Spanish BLU of this Great movie ❤

[@DanielleKingdjdinosaur]

i like this film .Its scary .Tension filled with good performances

[@mandybutler8880]

Absolutely, one of my top movies 🎉❤. Nothing to criticize here, only celebrate

[@edupbeat]

The theatre was totally empty when I saw it at 15yrs old but it end gaining notoriety throughout the years. Great movie imo

[@treadstone1138]

I'm actually a very big fan of this movie, having read the book that Patterson wrote about the killings and having seen the lions myself at the Field museum in Chicago. But Douglas had a bit of an ego considering Remington is a completely fictional character they created for the movie. In my opinion it didn't add anything to the flick at all. But that's just me. It also has a great soundtrack.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

Fredric Remington was a popular US 🎨 western artist. He did sculpture & art, 🖼 ...

[@gauravgopal6014]

One of the best Films ever...and I've watched over 20000 films in my life...Val Kilmer was the perfect choice

[@ericjohnson8326]

I saw this when it came out at 3rd Street Promenade Santa Monica. I really enjoyed it. I had no clue it went through so many more production problems. Making movies is so difficult that even the great movies go through production hell and still win awards.

[@generalinformation3507]

This was one of my favorite movies, I can watch it over and over again. Extremely scary, it was like jaws on land🦈

[@jsfbr]

A great, very rewatchable movie, notwithstanding its possible flaws.

[@MisterDramatic]

No on-set drama from Kilmer!? That's why I clicked. 😢

[@NoirTech83]

I wonder if Douglas's interference has anything to do with his character dying off screen out of nowhere.

[@AHalevonEric]

"You've got a question that needs answering."

[@celluloaded]

Another solid video. Thanks!

[@marcussmith4913]

My son watched this movie almost every day as a kid. I would be busy working or doing something on the computer. He would be in the background watching this movie. I should of spent more time with him back then. I was just so young and worried about work money bills. I still have to work get money and pay bills, but I will never get that time back. So I love this movie because it reminds me of my son and feel sad seeing this movie. Because it reminds me of that time lost.

[@nymets1104]

I know you claim the narration is not AI but it's beyond obvious in this video. It's not even remotely natural

[@KinoReel-c4f]

I was claiming when it wasn't AI. This one (and previous 6) are AI.

[@jsfbr]

Fortunately, not an annoying A.I., as the script is good and the voice sounds nice.

[@KinoReel-c4f]

I don't know why ppl always care about AI. This voice is a clone of real person ( I believe so...radio DJ), he speaks clear, no errors, fast, not expensive. I am listening audiobooks for 15 years...real ppl voices are terrible (mine too).

[@ComoGotasdeAguaCine]

@@KinoReel-c4f Because many of us cares about whats real or not. Which is why we hate photoshoped images and filtered photos. AI is only going to further cement the fact that reality is for old farts like myself and training and spending years on a craft is meaningless.

[@leeburgers2444]

​@@KinoReel-c4fbecause it is unprofessional and sucks

[@NextNate03]

It is interesting that there are movies that he considers to be a failure whenever the movie did very well overall (box office and/or home video for an example). *Edit* did well

[@KinoReel-c4f]

And examples are....?

[@NextNate03]

This movie, made 87 million off of 55 million budget. 30+ million profit. Con Air: 75 million budget 224 million Box Office. 100+ million profit. Edge of Tommorow: 178 million budget. 370.5 box office. 190+ million profit.

[@KinoReel-c4f]

Con Air has title "The Story of the Film". When I say "box office" it doesn't mean studio got all the money. Movietheaters receive around 50%, China - 75%. Usually you have to take budget and multiply it by 2 to break even. And don't forget about marketing budget, it is not a part of movie production budget.

[@ComoGotasdeAguaCine]

If a movie doesnt make at least twice its production budget, is a flop. A movie usually breaks even when it makes 3x times its production budget. Obviously a movie can be a flop theatrically but make tons of money on video as did Showgirls with only 20 mill in boxoffice but 100 million on rental over a 40 mill production budget. Hope this clarifies.

[@NextNate03]

Egde of Tommorow? It it made more profit then Con Air.

[@Randolo10]

A great but flawed movie

[@chiefscheider]

I always say "A flawed but great movie." It just sounds better 😁

[@sic6664]

Saw this on tv as a kid and liked it.

[@marsco25177]

This is one of those movies it’s on my list of being timeless. I feel like it was a good story and because of the production design of it, you could watch it today and it would still feel like a movie that is not dated There are not many movies that can say this

[@erickvonengelwalten8568]

Even so, it was and it is one of the best predator/hunt movies ever made. No bullshit CGI... The story is almost the same as the original, but i think they should let be more vague, misterious and spellbound like the description in the books were the lions are so supreme, that Patterson felt defeated and beated all the time.

[@alexanderrow7565]

I actually really like this movie. It's cool how the two lions are portrayed as almost supernatural forces of nature. Although I always thought it was kind of strange that Micheal Douglas' character dies off screen. Especially considering he gave himself a more prominent role in the film as you say.

[@kudraabdulaziz3096]

Awesome movie, thanks for covering it.

[@martinkarnstein]

I’ve seen TGATD in theater back in the day and loved it, great period movie thriller, snoot very modern way and illustrated by timeless score from Jerry Goldsmith. Too bad that we never got decent Blu-Ray transfer, as we eventually did with The Sorcerer or recently The Keep.

[@chadbryson4252]

I loved this flick, and would really like to see this film recut with the 30 minutes of missing footage

[@xXSupreme45Xx]

I always thought this movie was fantastic.

[@stephenbutler6727]

It made $87 million worldwide so not a disappointment

[@KinoReel-c4f]

But studio didn't get even 50% of this money.

[@chiefscheider]

​@@KinoReel-c4f Exactly. Movie had a budget of $55m which didn't include marketing costs. Back then a film had to at least double its production budget before it started making a profit. So clearly the studio lost money on it

[@RobertoRuizHBK]

A great film. Makes me remember a David Lean film with great action scenes. A classic and cult.

[@Cars_Dogs_Cats]

Trust Kilmer to be a true professional.

[@shadowleon659]

This film is an underrated gem and a period piece film.

[@mateosimon4237]

Hmmm 30 minutes were cut?? I think we need a directors cut

[@JoeChillton]

I cant see Val Kilmer in a film during the 90s and not think what he was up to with his habits and public divorce

[@ActionMan1979]

Great movie.

[@c3920]

Not a failure, great movie.

[@KinoReel-c4f]

"Great movie" it is just your opinion. Why no big crowds in movie theaters?

[@Unky69]

ill be watchin this film atleast twice a year & shall have recurring nightmares regularly lmaaooo

[@RaphaelDuncanSD]

Great movie. "I'm going to sort it out."

[@ilankonikov7249]

great movie just great

[@andresbonachera8421]

This movie was great!

[@fredlandry6170]

Good movie, the lions are on display in Chicago.

[@amero888]

I really loved this movie when it came out and val dad a great job in it

[@stormryder4305]

This is prime example why Directors should be OUTLAWED from interfering in storytelling. Someone need to step out and tell those mathafakers to butt out, unless they have academic credentials in literature. Time and time illiterate directors and producers have cause movies to flop because of their ego and incapability to acknowledge that they have no F-King clue about good storytelling.

[@fordwk]

Loved it...

[@MutantsInDisguise]

When will you guys talk about THE ISLAND OF DR. MOREAU?

[@KinoReel-c4f]

I have it in my plans, but not soon.

[@jeremykoerner4100]

"Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley's Island of Dr. Moreau" is on Tubi right now. Highly worth watching!

[@harvillex4284]

My favorite movie with val kulmer and based out of Africa

[@patrickkavanagh7371]

A wimp and a loser. 😂 I was waiting to hear when Val kilmer turned up as being a pain in the ass, thanks for the info and why he was on his best behavior. Love the channel and hearing about behind the scenes drama. Tons of 90s movies to discuss .

[@jake5773]

Great movie!

[@edupbeat]

What tha heck is this channel talking about? It wasn’t successful at the box but it gained status over the years. I saw in the theater when I was 15 btw!

[@KinoReel-c4f]

Your comments make no sense.

[@edupbeat]

@ your video makes no sense.

[@edupbeat]

@ and my comment is in agreement with almost every comment on this vid🤣🤣🤣

[@KinoReel-c4f]

Your comment: "What tha heck is this channel talking about?' and then "The theatre was totally empty when I saw it at 15yrs old". You contradicting yourself. Or you really believe that people who made this movie had a goal to "gain status over the years" ? My video is about how movie was made, not about "oh, that movie was cool".

[@KinoReel-c4f]

Don't lie, I read all comments.

[@81tattooed]

I read the book in middle school. Bought the vhs shortly after. Remington in the book and film was the inspiration for me to name my son the same name 6 years ago. Still own both the book and film to this day. Both still hold up to this day

[@raymondjones5909]

This movie is badass

[@anthonydileonardo8156]

They had trouble casting Remington whom was originally named Redbeard....they never thought of Rutger Hauer or Jurgen Prochnow, sadky enough

[@anthonydileonardo8156]

Douglas sucked in the roke, was misxast

[@chiefscheider]

Plus he was top billed but didn't appear on screen until almost 45m into the movie. He's always had a huge ego

[@anthonydileonardo8156]

@@chiefscheider I met him years ago....pretty cool, but, then again, I wasn't working for him...lol........my friend met Roy Scheider at a Dunkin Donuts on Long Island years ago having his trademark coffee and cigarette

[@chiefscheider]

I remember that. Your friend asked me to do the famous "bigger boat" line but I gave him the "So long, Sport!" from 52 Pick-Up instead. He found that rather amusing if memory serves... 😁

[@m.dmeyer7632]

It was just OK. Could have been much better with the big names in it.

[@devekut2]

1:20 - As it SHOULD be, tbqh.

[@Daniel-mw2lf]

Songimvelo❤