The Ghoul threatens Tommy and others [Fallout] 2160p

Season one episode seven.

[@Colin-kh6kp]

I like how when the dude thought The Ghoul ate his daughter even Cooper thought it was a bit much, even for him, with the "come on, now".

[@gabrielbarrios6712]

Nah, look at how he ate the food while looking at them. He definitely wanted them to think that for the sake of screwing with them

[@godsavant]

Judging from Cooper's remark about lead and the armor he was wearing in the previous scene, this farmer used to be an NCR Ranger-basically the Navy SEALs of the wasteland. Seeing how Cooper has him terrified (and initially thinking that he’s killed and eaten his daughter), I can only imagine the horrific shit he saw that ghoul do to people back in his service days.

[@DrHydra47]

Or hes a prospector who happened to scavenge ncr ranger armor

[@ashtondillard6906]

Yea I don’t think a ranger would give up that easy. Rangers are the toughest and most skilled mofos in the fallout universe.

[@obsidianwarrior5580]

Nah I doubt he's a former Ranger, those guys were tough as nails, I doubt he'd have just let the ghoul walk after murdering his son.

[@ValentinoMarino11]

@@obsidianwarrior5580 You can clearly see that he doesn’t have it in him anymore, maybe he’s just tired of violence since he was a veteran.

[@Zephirah]

How do you know that ?

[@MinersLoveGames]

This is such a nice homage to The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly.

[@galaktikuszselatin8650]

Ikr, I love this reference.

[@TheCaptScarlett]

I came here to say that

[@guillermosilva5905]

My thoughts exactly. Lee Van Cleef opening scene.

[@TheCaptScarlett]

Also foreshadowed to some extent by eating the cherry tomatoes in Filly

[@Mthammere2010]

In the "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" Van Cleef's character killed every family member in sight.

[@orcloverogrefiend5644]

Unfortunately Ponch raised two very stupid sons who couldnt stay out of trouble.

[@travishighbaugh5245]

Dude I could not figure out where I knew him from!

[@oscarcordero3291]

I believe Ponch was on the TV show Chips and had a cameo as Carlos's dad on big time rush

[@purefoldnz3070]

Glad to see CHIPs is still going after the nukes fell. Now disco can never die!

[@stingerjohnny9951]

I love the dark, warped charm he has, no matter how brutal or depraved he acts, he’s so damn entertaining to watch.

[@johnson7156]

He’s a survivalist. He does things with a reason. To survive. He doesn’t kill for pleasure. Which makes him relatable despite how cruel his actions are.

[@ThroughMyEyes2020]

​@@johnson7156 He does this shit for the love of the game!

[@joshuavillagomez8369]

He has 10 charisma with his words

[@ApetureTestSubject]

I love how, while this is brutal, Cooper plays it fair. He waits for them to come back, doesn't hurt the little girl, asks relatively politely for the information he wants. The Dad is clearly on the same page, so he lets him convince his son. And then he lets Tommy reach for his gun. The kid didn't have to. Coop likely would have just walked out if he didn't. But they all knew Tommy was about to do something stupid.

[@jackzen4547]

This stuck out to me too. I don't think the The Ghoul even wanted to kill Tommy. Him saying "Maybe someday..." was him testing Tommy. To see if he'd back down. If Tommy sat there crying and begging for mercy, that would've satisfied Cooper, he'd know he just scared this kid shitless and no way he'd try going after him, at least for a while.

[@stevejamieson8468]

What people have to remember is that with Cooper, he has simply adopted a more ruthless approach to surviving in the wastelands. That said, the core of who is as an honorable and decent man is still there. That girl reminded him of his daughter and he only shot the boy out of self defense. He seemingly was testing that kid.

[@davidevalenti3859]

Even the NCR veteran ranger knew not to fuck with the man with the big iron on his hip. The son didn't listen.

[@riceoawsozm96]

I highly doubt he is an NCR Veteran. Probably just a regular lead farmer that just found the armour.

[@davidevalenti3859]

@@riceoawsozm96 Nah, he's definitely an NCR veteran. He knew who the Ghoul is, and the Ghoul comment "I probably still got some of your lead in me somewhere" hints to some past between them.

[@davidurban7346]

​@@riceoawsozm96NEW Vegas fans think theyre so smart because thrbgames dialogue is vastly superior. Yet you cant fucking listen.

[@Slop_Dogg]

Damn shout out to Estrada, just a single scene but put a lot into it

[@newpapyrus]

Amazing performance IMO. Never knew he was such a good actor.

[@analtubegut66]

he should get his own fallout show, i liked him too

[@notfalling334]

I did not expect him to appear in this show. Got me stoked.

[@azureapathy92]

Supportive role taken to the next level. He wasn’t even THE supporting actor yet I find myself YouTubing this scene the most due to the level of detail, dialogue, subtle read between the lines type interaction. So satisfying to watch and in a strange way there was no other way it could have went in this universe of fallout.

[@superbigtime]

*[8 PER]* _Or are you gonna try and draw on me for what I did to your big brother?_

[@PathiosProductions]

Been looking for this scene! Nice tribute to the good the bad and the ugly scene when angel eyes does similar

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

Holy shit. I was marathoning this show with a guy over discord. Before this scene happened I said that this show feels like the good the bad and the ugly but fallout. But the thing is I haven't actually seen the good the bad and the ugly. So clearly, I got a 95% vats shot.

[@Bucky1836]

​@@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormalwe witnessed a sci Dollars Trilogy and few realize it 😂

[@alecjones4676]

​@@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormalYou really ought to watch it. I wasn't very big on Westerns but that movie has some of the best set design, cinematography, costuming, dialogue, acting, and world-building I've seen. And if you have a dog, watch it with them. You won't regret it 😂

[@MyCoolZz]

"That your family? Nice family.."

[@DeathSierra117]

Glad I’m not the only one who thought of that scene.

[@PolymurExcel]

@@DeathSierra117 you're not, I thought it felt like a homage, only not nearly as ruthless or brutal since I think Cooper was gonna let Tommy go until he drew.

[@ghostofwolfmoonmani3877]

If he's goading you like that he already has a shot lined up

[@grantpflum6844]

I would hardly call it goading. The ghoul was calling him out on his BS. The Ghoul was willing to walk away, even knowing the kid was going to com after him later, but he could see Tommy was already planning on killing him the second he turned his back. So the Ghoul straight up asked Tommy if he would be smart enough to let him walk away and Tommy answered by drawing on him when he realized he wasn't going to get his free shot. Tommy was the definition of Too Stupid To Live.

[@trig1988x]

i love the fact he still keeps his horses saddle on him

[@elladeon]

That's not a saddle, it's a saddle bag.

[@TheAllSeeingEye2468]

Least the father still has the daughter

[@gwac0609]

yeah, but the daughter going to have nobody in the long run.

[@TheAllSeeingEye2468]

@@gwac0609 and who knows maybe she's gonna Hunt him down

[@wolfgangmami]

Well he can sell her for organs

[@Crack-Insomniac]

If the ghoul dies it should be by the daughter just because it would be hilarious

[@DLordSadow]

@@Crack-Insomniac Nah, she’ll be his next apprentice after Lucy.

[@kentinson1670]

It's crazy how the Ghoul is almost different from Cooper Howard. Cooper wouldn't be this heartless even after the bombs fell. Crazy what 200 years does to a man.

[@gwac0609]

200 years of living in hell

[@kentinson1670]

@@gwac0609 survived wars only to live in hell. The only thing keeping him going is any possibility that his family lived

[@basketcas3717]

That's what I keep telling myself. I keep wanting to believe that the ghoul is the same good hearted guy he was when he was human man and in a sense he still is but after 200 years, you probably wouldn't be the same either. He lost his wife and his family and saw both evil and considering what has been done to him he probably lost his mind in a sense.

[@TheArmouredAlechemist]

To be fair he never actually kills unless shot at first or threatanted. Like with the kid. The kid reached for a gun before the ghoul even fired. Thats the same in every sence hes in. He never kills unless he's threataned or attacked the exception being Rodger the ghoul whos going feral and that was a mercy killing and the BOS inight in armour but they given the BOS true natute its kill or be killed.

[@e-1235]

@@TheArmouredAlechemisthe was gonna sell Lucy for her organs though

[@averageant7173]

I love how with all the cameos in this show, Erik Estrada got the most dramatic

[@spitflamez]

I hope they bring him back and season 2 and he puts that armor to use!

[@atlasprime6193]

“Or are you gonna try and draw on me for what I did to your big brother?” I doubt this is a Terrifying Presence dialogue, otherwise the boy would’ve backed down. This is more likely a generic persuasion dialogue to which the Ghoul clearly failed.

[@greenbrickbox3392]

Terrifying Presence causes some NPCs to go hostile to you and in in non-meta narrative the Ghoul knew he was faster than the boy.

[@darkwolf9877]

That comment he made "I probably still got some of your lead in me", assumes they fought before so he fully understands how terrifying the Ghoul is. Must be like a level 50 Alpha Deathclaw waiting for you to come home

[@Reaper1722]

Imagine a lvl 50 intelligent Alpha Deathclaw waiting for you to come home though, guns and cowboy outfit and all.

[@bigyoshi5170]

@@Reaper1722Rattlesnake Jake with arms and legs essentially

[@Yan-tz9pn]

But a real deathclaw. Not a Bethesda deathclaw

[@ROFLobster4884]

In some ways it also tells that the father used to be no pushover either. He’s obviously tangled with Ghoul enough for them to know each other personally, and he’s obviously shot Ghoul on multiple occasions - yet he’s still alive. I don’t think Ghouls the kinda guy for lots of mercy, so that means this guy put him to flight. I would not at all be surprised to see him put that ranger gear back on and strap his big iron on for vengeance.

[@misspiggy3545]

Walton Goggins is soooo good dude

[@BasedHorrigan]

"Rufus sent Tommy a stash of caps to pay a *Courier* for the safe transport of an Enclave defector to that very same mad woman in the Hills: Moldaver" What happened to the mailman?

[@rd3299]

Lost interest and gave up the side quest

[@FrankyZuniga]

Or got held up by Benny.

[@catsndogs98]

And the game was rigged. Already has his gun out.

[@gwac0609]

game was rigged from the start.

[@molequedaora]

At first I thought that Coop asked Tommy on purpose so he could provoke and kill him, but on second thought, he definitely knew that the kid had been thinking about it since the letter was brought up in the conversation. He just wanted to speed up the process.

[@jflores85]

Erik Estrada must be a vampire or something

[@pilot3605]

Holy fuck, 75? I know they can use makeup and shit, but damn, if that's not aging gracefully I dunno what is

[@caseclosed9342]

He’s a real-life ghoul…

[@alecjones4676]

His character is probably 35 lol

[@MetalsirenIXI]

75?! Damn

[@MetalsirenIXI]

Its crazy when he calls his daughter and it cuts to the Ghoul cutting the meat on the plate xD

[@AmusedCoffee-ym3gb]

Bruh he even takes a slow chew while staring him in the eyes 💀

[@azureapathy92]

i love this scene cuz you can tell when he decides to kill Tommy, The little stare and "hmph" right before he asks you gonnna let me walk out of here?

[@justinbergeron5997]

Crazy how the Ghoul scared an ex NCR ranger so badly.

[@suhelsheth4621]

The Western feel in this is 10/10. For me, this actor was key in making this good series even better

[@satchmothekid3891]

The Ghoul is the best part of the show. Bad af and fuckin hilarious every time he speaks.

[@ignaciosoler8963]

Cooper Howard know as The Ghoul didn't care that he was going to kill Tommy or the family either by him, the raiders, mutated creatures, or even time. Because The Ghoul can live a lot longer than a human can, it comes with a price, to forever walk the earth, not dying, and see people they care about all gone. Generation after generation that comes and goes, no matter how they die, either by his hands, or someone else's, or even time. Howard has been living for 200 year in this infected wasteland and can change the man.

[@JDog2656]

Guardians in Destiny get by alright

[@gwac0609]

@@JDog2656 that's because they have awesome superpowers and are virtually immortal and since they don't have any memories of their past when they are resurrected for the first time, they are not weighed down by the painful memories of their past and yes, many light bearers suffered during the dark age and were eternally scared, but they can still build something that lasts and live a good life. then you have ghouls yes, their mutation gives them a good advantage in the wasteland but it's not enough for them to build a good life for themselves unlike guardians who are revered and at times even worshiped ghouls are mostly treated like outcast and freaks. guardians were made to rise and conquer great odds ghouls are cursed to despair and eventually go feral and even when they have strong motivation to keep going, they're just prolonging the inevitable. destiny's earth is broken but can be fixed. fallouts earth is too broken and cannot be fixed.

[@HerrDeutschBlood]

No matter how many productions Erik Estrada is apart of, he'll always be remembered as one of the guest celebrities that was featured in the cinematic masterpiece, Cool Cat Saves The Kids.

[@zacharyduke4495]

The ghoul is there star character of the show hopefully they dont ever kill him off

[@MarsM13]

They probably will in the final episode. He's the kind of character who doesn't last long after completing his lifelong quest. As soon as he's dealt with whatever happened to his wife and daughter, he's done. He'll probably go feral afterwards, and need to be put down by Lucy.

[@purefoldnz3070]

Glad to see CHIPs is still going after the nukes fell. Now disco can never die!

[@edenramos9686]

He wasn't gonna kill the girl I knew that was a bluff besides he used have a Daughter

[@stevejamieson8468]

She probably reminds him a lot of his daughter, Cooper is ruthless when he has to be but he still is an honorable man who has suffered enormously

[@Mr.Nin10do.]

The game is the game, the son’s played and lost

[@alfredmarcos1761]

This whole scene was a skill check.

[@tierk4328]

I have a feeling that Fallout isn't done with his family. If they stick to the Western Genre, Tommys sister (when she gets older) or dad will come after The Ghoul to get their revenge.

[@jakces3810]

Yes, exactly what I thought. The Ghoul's action in this scene will have consequences, and it won't be a nice one. Though I don't think they would stand much of a chance against The Ghoul, but still, would love to see them try.

[@spitflamez]

I don’t think the son he shot is dead either… but yes I hope he comes back with a back story and puts that armor to use!

[@spitflamez]

I just got an idea, if Tommy did die, I hope the Farmer and daughter roll out like the Shogun Assassin (Wolf and Cub) Samurai movie…. Or like Nick Cage and his daughter in Kick Ass!

[@JDog2656]

I don’t think the dad will. He knows full well what the Ghoul can do and what his sons did that they shouldn’t have. And at the end of the day, Cooper gave the kid a choice.

[@pilot3605]

I like how everyone just calls him THE Ghoul. Like he's the Alpha.....tbh he might be, even tho we've seen some badass Ghouls throughout the games

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

Well to be fair. If you were to pick a menacing name for a wasteland gun slinging legend. Which sounds more ominous. "The Ghoul"... Or "Cooper Howard".

[@Slop_Dogg]

Feels like most ghouls either settle down in a spot after some time and make some connections, even friendships or they hole up alone, sequestered away from other people entirely- but The Ghoul has stayed active yet totally unknowable. Even being essentially biologically immortal, ghouls born pre-war are constantly dwindling in number from enemies & feralization- but The Ghoul has been appearing & disappearing for 220 years now. I figure he’s up there with The Mysterious Stranger in terms of wasteland tall tales.

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

@@Slop_Dogg I wouldn't be surprised if the some of the mysterious stranger reports actually were the ghoul.

[@pilot3605]

@@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal fair point lol

[@xenoshin256]

To be fair, any ghoul that survived for 200+ years and is still standing is pretty badass.

[@lunarkinght123]

Ghoul: Sheesh, I'm not that crazy

[@TheEyebaugh]

When dad called for Sandra he thought Cooper made her into steak😳

[@AccountRemoved101]

Reminds me of the scene from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. Angel Eyes visits this man's house in front of his family, and threatens to kill them. He kills the elder boy, and the father. And funny enough he's eating too.

[@KenobiStark1]

Whatever he was eating in that scene, maybe chili and beans, looked good

[@SpringrazorAzrael]

same mate, I remembered this scene instantly

[@Quayd_McMahon]

@@KenobiStark1I love chilli with red kidney beans one of my favourite foods

[@Psyfi85]

This scenes a direct homage. A shot or two references the Searchers also

[@ScheffCity]

Mentioning the lead that could've still been inside him, the fact the NCR fell and also that the battle for Hoover Dam wasnt long ago.. could The Ghoul have been hired by the Legion..?

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

No. The Legion kills all Ghouls on sight basically. Its never said but I suspect thats one of the reasons why Vulpes irritated the camp searchlight. To further humiliate the NCR by turning some soldiers into ghouls. More probably the Ghoul was hired to like, kill a ncr ranger or something that this guy was in the same camp with. Something like that.

[@DM006]

Although Howard killed a lot of people in cold blood, and perhaps only ate human flesh when he was desperate, I like to think that he would never have harmed a child.

[@stevejamieson8468]

You could also see that deep down he is still a dog lover

[@Yan-tz9pn]

Nah. He’s not some coward nonsense you want. He’s 200 years a ghoul. He’s not a good man.

[@jinx1987]

It didn’t show but Cooper looked really shook after he left the house

[@stevejamieson8468]

He took no joy in having to kill Tommy, below that tough exterior he has developed. Cooper was a father at one time and Tommy's sister reminded him of his daughter.

[@ericklajara8641]

I feel this will come back around for the ghoul.

[@guyledouche7939]

Very reminiscent of The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.

[@iloverickynelson]

is that erik estrada? wow!

[@ATMyles]

Wow, indeed! I had no idea he was on this show.

[@snakebagelz]

It’s funny because the ghoul could of actually played Angel Eyes in this universe

[@Agent_Chieftain]

I don't know if this was intentional, but this whole scene feels like a homage to 'The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.'

[@thegreatquakester]

Amazing that a kid growing up in this environment still can’t recognize a pro when they see one.

[@user-jo3tn6cu4n]

he recognized pro alright, he was just so deep in anger he decided to try to kill him.

[@edenramos9686]

Oh Now I get it he thought he ate her 😅

[@robertj8610]

Estrada was great

[@nyancatnatalie]

Reminds me of the opening to the Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

[@jerryterwase9027]

This scene is dedicated to Lee Van clef

[@NICK41206]

0:14 *DERE HE IS*

[@dragonfruitsalad]

Wait… there is no fucking way

[@dragonfruitsalad]

IT IIISS LMAO

[@Littlejohnnymarston1]

Love the song that plays after he kills Tommy reminds me of new Vegas ambience

[@SwedishPizzas]

I think the ghoul is gonna look back on this and regret killing a young man... a young boy.

[@jihef03]

That's two brothers down, wonder if the little sister gonna try and take a shot at Ghoul in a decade or two.

[@ericklajara8641]

I could already imagine it, after depriving people from their families so long, as soon as Cooper reunites with his family, the little girl or the father takes vengeance and kills Coop, or worse, his family.

[@TwinFlyDSW]

It feels like I have seen a scene like this in an old western movie. A stranger turns up announced at a family home to get information from the man of the house. Stranger gets information and I think the man of the house tries to draw and open fire on the stranger but is beaten to the draw and killed. Stranger departs leaving the man's (now widow) mourning over her dead husband. It feels like the Good, the Bad and the Ugly or one of the movies from that trilogy. I am thinking it was a Lee Van Cleef (Angel Eyes) scene. I do love Coop's cowboy themed character in the show. In his limelight he was the Clint Eastwood of his day in the movie theatres. Now in the nuclear wasteland he has to rely on those ancient days cowboy gunslinging/fighting techniques to survive in this dystopian future. It is like the Opposite of Dune where the advanced Holtzman shield forces combatants to go back to hand-to-hand, bladed combat.

[@nathans45]

Yeah its The Good The Bad and The Ugly

[@nightrider85]

Tommy!! Over in a flash...

[@AmusedCoffee-ym3gb]

This was such a stand out scene.

[@maxhall4063]

"I probably still got some of your lead in me somewhere." This guy shot the ghoul in the past? He's definitely gonna come back hunting for the ghoul.

[@joblo2671]

I feel like his voice would be a lot higher with no nose

[@stingerjohnny9951]

I figured the opposite, a stuffed up nose causes a higher pitch, so that cyclops socket outta be clear and deep.

[@evancornell5820]

Best scene in the whole show.

[@crynsmile7u776]

4:10 RDR Dead Eye moment! 💥

[@jaylinwilkins7865]

4:11 Dumb move kid!

[@garrickanderson4533]

Revenge is a fools game -Arthur Morgan

[@crtmojo2705]

Hey it’s Ponch!

[@CloroxBleach-qy7vy]

Oh shit the courier coulda been lowkey named dropped in this scene being the same “courier” that escorted the enclave scientist to filly

[@wylon87]

Fuck! Thanks comments! It is Estrada. That was bothering me.

[@realityoffiction9087]

Feel free to comment on this idea! Hear me out Equal stats, no divine magic or death guns Saint of killers Vs the ghoul Setting, an Abandoned town in cali

[@JoeyXSmith]

"That kid kick sand in Cool Cat face."

[@hymonom]

Goddamn this show is good.

[@jesussalazar1020]

I know I wasn't the only one who said, "Holy Sh** that's ERIK ESTRADA!!" or those who said, "PONCHO?" My dad and I only noticed compared to my nephew. Especially, my dad noticed The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly reference.

[@martincamacho2444]

I think him thinking that the daughter was the meal was more do to fact that the wasteland and the fallout world is extremely brutal into the extreme like constant Warzone of the worst kind

[@gabevachon326]

Science fiction Boyd Crowder. Where's Raylon?

[@spitflamez]

I hope the farmer and son get busy in season 2 and put that iconic armor to good use!

[@nathans45]

I do not think the son is gonna be doing anything in S2

[@elixtido1448]

Tommy was a pretty stupid kid.

[@Crackshotsteph]

I wonder why the Lead Farmer called Lee Maldover a mad woman in the hills?

[@gwac0609]

probably and old follower of hers that became disillusioned with her cause.

[@stingerjohnny9951]

@@gwac0609 Probably thinks she’s clinging onto a dead dream.

[@AHersheyHere]

Maldover's base is at the Observatory, so the raider base is up "in the hills". The Bullet Farmer is most likely ex-NCR, so he has very low opinion of other groups in how 'they will save the world', especially since Maldover is talking about "endless power".

[@johnwhittington2998]

Because she is one

[@raymondcanessa7208]

7 mary 3 10-33

[@NayaPuran]

Was he paid to see the job through?

[@chiefluke9.0.79]

Oh yeah the dweller the knight and the ghoul 😂😂😂 good movie 🎥🍿 to make 😊😂😂

[@CashMoolah00]

Please explain this scene? I still trying to piece together

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

The Ghoul needed information. He knew this guy had information. So he set it up so that he would walk in and see him eating meat. Making him think that he was eating his daughter. Then he threatened them and got the information

[@boniakarlo]

It is a citation from The Good,The Bad and The Ugly, there is a scene that is almost the same. On the "plot" point, this is to show how the ghouls tracks down the others and also how ruthless he is. In old Western movies this kind of scenes had the point to show us the precise morality of a major charachter. How do they pursue their goals against the weak alone colonists of the west? Do they show faith in the good of people or in the bad side of people? How good are they with their weapons? So when they face the other main charachters we know whats up and we know the stakes. Usually this scenes are done in saloon, during poker gambit, during a valuable exchange/standoff or, like in this one, during an interrogation.

[@AHersheyHere]

Also there are cases of murder on the American frontier, where the man was found 'not guilty' because the man he killed "had killed someone in his family". This was back in the day where if you were wanted, you could just leave the province and the law wouldn't follow you. So the threat of Tommy seeking him out for a "justified killing" isn't farfetched.

[@leonardocancian8086]

Who is Rufus?

[@skarletfenrir6979]

Someone he killed in the shootout in episode 2

[@valeriavanessaa]

Does Tommy die?

[@satchmothekid3891]

Oh yeah

[@gwac0609]

he died stupid now his sister's future is even more uncertain because his older brother's dead and his father's showing his age, I fear for Sandra's wellbeing in the long run. I know kids Tommy's age find it harder to control their emotions but after seeing his father's reaction to the ghoul he should've known better it wasn't rocket science to just how dangerous the ghoul was.

[@wongyikai2126]

@@gwac0609tbf, ain’t no way Tommy was going to get out of this scene alive. The ghoul already made up his mind to kill Tommy. He even says it “maybe not today, maybe someday”, he wasn’t going to leave loose ends, esp not Tommy who would be out for revenge for the death of his brother. Im pretty sure Tommy knew that too, so he chose to try drawing rather than accepting his fate and get shot.

[@gwac0609]

@@wongyikai2126 I do see your reasoning but if the ghoul didn't want to leave any loose ends, he would've killed the entire family in these situations it's best to wipe out the whole bloodline to prevent any revenge killing the ghoul was certain the father and Sandra wouldn't do anything but he wasn't too sure about Tommy so he baited him to see if the kid was stupid enough to draw on him and unfortunately Tommy was that stupid. your still right on there was no way Tommy was getting out of this alive, but it was because Tommy was his own worst enemy in the end as kids his age are known to be and sometimes it's fatal.

[@Emberwiles]

The game was rigged from the start

[@Caproductionsfl]

He ain’t good or bad, he is the ghoul.

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

One might say... ugly.

[@dovahkiinslayer752]

The Ghoul he shouldn't have killed that child.

[@godsavant]

Don't worry, Tommy's flagged as an essential NPC until the Ghoul finishes this quest; he'll get back up in a few minutes.

[@pll3827]

He waited until the kid went for the gun. The Ghoul gave him a chance.

[@DJZ64X]

​@@pll3827 nah the ghoul provoced him by using his brother, offcourse the younger brother would react to that, it was a dirty move by the ghoul.

[@xninjabluexTV]

@@pll3827 Focused too much on his brother who was dead and not enough on his younger sister who was still alive. His hot-headed actions, while understandable, put the entire family at risk and was ultimately selfish and stupid.

[@mtsen771]

tbh he was wise enough to kill the son, since he'd want to pursuit him for revenge in the future anyway. He probably saw that multiple times during his long life after the war, and even before in his own western movies he starred in. He's just as pragmatic as someone can be.

[@DanielMonteiro87]

So Cooper just found out a follower of Maldover at random and gets a letter pointing to her location...

[@taddad2641]

nah he was looking for clues on the thing.

[@ni9274]

He’s a tracker with 200 years of experience, also it’s not like Maldover run the biggest faction in the area and likely has goon everywhere And her headquarter isn’t hidden

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

I love you Walty, but you're not gonna Mandalorian this character no matter how hard they make you Mandalorian

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

For Mandalore!

[@JusttheGayBits]

He took the wrong camino and ended up in the wasteland.