The Gibraltar Incident | Sea Power

The Red Fleet is escaping the Med.

[@sylwus83]

Wow seeing Rear Admiral Jive Turkey back in streamng games maes me so happy. Streams from Cold Waters kept me going when I was staying in hospital with my daughter who was diagnosed with severe heart disease. Sleepless nigts next to her bed....I was able to stay sane thanks to Jive....thank you Sir!

[@_R-R]

Is she doing ok?

[@sylwus83]

@@_R-RYes Sir. She had the surgery and everything is fine but the moments of waiting for the little one to wake up and then try to give a 3 yr old baby medication through injection also sleepless nights being afraid? Well I consider myself a solid man but i just collapsed inside because of the fact there was nothing I could do as a father as a man to get my baby recover. It needed time. Thanks to Jive I was able to keep my mind straight and grab moments of joy when I really needed them. Thank you for asking 🫡

[@magnubeido832]

​@@sylwus83 glad your daughter is doing better

[@_datapoint]

48:32 In Tom Clancy’s “red storm rising“ in the chapter “dance of the vampires“ he mentions how one missile would fly at a higher altitude than the rest of the missiles. This was in 1986.

[@judyhopps9380]

I wonder why... 😕

[@ДушманКакдела]

Tom Clancy was known associate of spooks galore

[@christopherchartier3017]

Yes, the SS-N-19’s do that

[@TrevTheTyrant]

​@@judyhopps9380 bec ause they're smart missiles one would stay higher than the rest on a tracking course then would communicate the other missiles to individual targets though they still all had independent radar tracking systems

[@judyhopps9380]

@@TrevTheTyrant oooh, thank you

[@jakeski3142]

I really hope they make this game multiplayer. This would be epic to have commanders in charge of the various rolls with an overall commander. Jive takes the subsurface command, someone gets jamming, someone gets BARCAP, someone gets SEAD. Damn I hope they do this.

[@VonMed]

I mean would be nice but trying to make this a multiplayer game is not looking likely with this small a team, theres a lot of problems with making multiplater

[@Mthammere2010]

You underestimate people too much​@@VonMed multiplayer would be utterly epic and expand both parties. Meanwhile, team play wouldn't be as attractive as PVP.

[@VonMed]

@@Mthammere2010 i guess but for a small work team there would be a lot of bugs and servers do cost money, trying to make that kind of experience to multiplayer is hard anyways

[@Calvin_Yoder]

You just might be my new favorite Sea Power KZbinr. Entertaining video, and I look forward to more!

[@stevebarnett-f5o]

So much better than others showing this game, Harpoon2 30 years on. Great job.

[@danielsummey4144]

As complex as this game appears, these surface fights are extremely simple. You CANNOT sit back and just let them shoot missiles at you. They will literally pick you apart, and every missile that gets through is a kill and will substantially reduce your ability. You saw this here. One missile got through and you lost a cruiser. This is World of Warships. This is literally a race to 1) spot the enemy before you’re spotted and 2) get missiles on them. Those enemy helicopters should have been your first mission. You’ve got fighters and you’ve got a frigate. Shoot them down. Then use your own helos or AWACS to spot the enemy and get ordnance on target. You absolutely can’t fumble around while they’re lobbying thousand KG missiles at you.

[@MandolinMagi]

Yeah, he's spending way too much time watching missiles coming in and never seems to get around to throwing together every plan he has to hit the Russians

[@TyLockton]

Thanks for the content Aaron. Glad to see you're back with some great gaming vids.

[@blake9908]

The SS-N-12 works like this IRL and in the game: One missile flies high and keeps its radar on looking for targets, the remaining missiles remain sea skimming. If the high altitude missile is shot down, one of the sea skimmers takes its place. As the missiles get closer to the target, the missiles communicate with each other and they each pick out their own targets with each HVT recieving more vampires. In the game and IRL you can launch all of your Shipwrecks into a pack of ships and trust the missiles to do their jobs.

[@mandoreforger6999]

Nobody knows what it really did IRL. There isn’t much evidence that it could actually do what was claimed. It was a cool concept, but it was most likely similar to the Mig-25. It was fearsome in concept, but nearly useless in practice.

[@mandoreforger6999]

Nobody knows what it really did IRL. There isn’t much evidence that it could actually do what was claimed. It was a cool concept, but it was most likely similar to the Mig-25. It was fearsome in concept, but nearly useless in practice.

[@leighbellouny3904]

I missed that burn notice styled intro more than I realized

[@colestonebraker4539]

"MAKE IT LOUDER COMRADE" needs to be a meme, that is beyond hilarious!

[@AFNacapella]

"we have the most sophisticated computer powered sonar system." "da, but zis one goes to 11"

[@b.elzebub9252]

2:55:01 but you're EW jamming his sensors, right? How will the Udeloy engage you with SAM's if his radar is being jammed and washed out? Or does he have counter-jamming measures that still allow him to use his radar, just less effectively? I.e. shorter range, or less accurate target finding and tracking?

[@hawkman302]

The actions of the anti ship missiles are already public. It is pushed as a feature when they came out with new missiles. If the high missile is destroyed, a low will go high to get radar data so the group can continue.

[@davidwhitfield6025]

Great to see this scenario from the USN view. Also a relief to see they have fixed the abysmal AA of the USN. They actually hit better than 50%. Actually amazed the Perry lasted so long. The Little Perry that could! I think your jamming efforts really helped as well. Breakthrough has been buggy and crash proned for the past few weeks.

[@hernerweisenberg7052]

I dont think there is any real life data besides testing in controlled environments on the effectiveness of ships air defences, since there ha not been any peer to peer naval engagements since WW2. Also HMS Sheffield, USS Stark and recently the Moskva all got hit by anti ship missiles despite them having defence capabilities on paper.

[@mikedignum1868]

He's Back! What no British ships at Gibraltar, military cutbacks are bad.

[@hernerweisenberg7052]

Their crew wasnt diverse enough and had to be relieved of duty.

[@SuperMegaCyrus]

Get another joke

[@Iamabot4708]

​@@hernerweisenberg7052aesthetic cracking jokes you people should be focused on repopulating your countries

[@b.elzebub9252]

@@hernerweisenberg7052 Meanwhile the nation's population is rapidly aging and needs to bring in young people to stay alive. But yeah, 'diversity bad, huuurrrr'.

[@TheFreaker86]

48:50 Another KZbinr playing this game talked about this, so that’s how I know. The missiles fly as a flight datalinked together. One stays at high altitude to gather radar data and sends it down to the other missiles. If the missile up top gets shot down another from the pack takes over.

[@julianstark9483]

So happy to see you stream! Also super exciting to watch you play Sea Power! :)

[@freddyfox5002]

"Somewhere in the Mediterranean sea" Crimsom Tide line 😂😂 Opening monologue

[@ThaShaydeeSaint]

Love that you're back Jive! Long time fan.

[@ziggelito]

just change the designation from "merchant" to "Q-ship" in the afteraction repport and you should be good, not like anyone is going to dive down and check

[@cjwiesner]

Would putting your jammers in the air sooner and actually jamming probably have saved the Yarnell in retrospect?

[@Deltarious]

Because it came up several times during the stream- the AMRAAM was in service/deployed in 1991, it was in testing a little before then and so I suppose theoretically could've seen service in testing earlier- I have a source that says the first sucsessful test was in 1982 and the development seems to have been protracted and had quite a few issues but details on those issues are very scarce Edit: a little more detail, it seems that it was in low rate initial production from 1987 and that some of the earlier issues were related to massive cost overruns and delays, then possibly performance in hostile ECM environments, which they did not even try to test until '86. It thern still did not reach initial operational capability until '91. Sounds like some of the projects you cover on sub brief!

[@mpelzer24]

Right after the Gulf war. If I'm remembering correctly it got its first shoot down enforcing the no fly zone around Iraq not long after the war ended.

[@technocardy]

Man, you're awesome. Just discovered you, almost insta sub after your intro. Obligatory, but sincere thank you for your service. I'm writing this on Oct 20, 2024 and it's TORTURE waiting for this game to come out. Your vids are definitely gonna help ride this out!

[@corvanphoenix]

Sea Power fully emulates Soviet SS-N behaviour. So if they could swarm, data relay, deconflict etc. then they will in this game. So Oscar drivers are in bliss comas. 🤣

[@OO7angelo]

The Bloom has gone up. It might refer to when heat blooms are detected by spy satellite of the Soviet ships engines.

[@GutkowskiMarek]

@12:44. Steve Rogers "I understood that reference" Jest aside. Polish Mech. Inf.(reserve) greets US Submariner (ret)

[@williamdufour]

The P3 Orion do have an harpoon loadout

[@Real_Claudy_Focan]

He should learn to use CTRL and SHIFT keys to set several orders and movements in a row and spread out attacks.

[@bigsarge2085]

Entertaining as always!

[@hphp31416]

would Nixie work against soviet wake homing torpedoes or only against western acoustic ones?

[@JacoSmitZA]

I WANT TO PLAY THIS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!

[@AFNacapella]

you should have wikipedia open to see which info is already public. I've heard others talk about the formation attacks in this game and RL in more detail.

[@M3talr3x]

He blows it out of proportion forgetting that was close to 45 years ago

[@MandolinMagi]

Nothing about Russian missiles is secret, he's being dumb.

[@spiff1003]

I think you are good with talking about the russian missiles. It is common knowledge that they have this one missile up high scanning for targets and if it gets shot down, another missile will climb and take over command.

[@Baconatorz]

Common knowledge for a long time, Tom Clancy even wrote about it in Red Storm Rising.

[@accretor]

Canada operates Victoria-class (formerly British Upholder-class) submarines, not Oberons.

[@milossarkissian2606]

Another good one!

[@kingfishkeng2302]

Do you suppose they will program you a disco ball frigate?

[@timkirby5179]

Great stream. Cheers Jive. It shouldn't have been but your unaccounted for Harpoon incident was funny.

[@blake9908]

is the SM2 reliability too low for real life?

[@keondricpaigg7375]

Sadly sub school doesn’t teach how to use whiz wheels anymore the amount of sonar techs we get that say they have never used them is insane

[@aries144]

Is this mission available for download somewhere?

[@ronburn]

Where can you purchase your slide rules?

[@stevepirie8130]

Seen this scenario from the other side and the Soviets have a pile of naval aircraft coming.

[@jessestead2722]

I wonder if he could've sent in f15s to take out their awacs when those initial shrike missiles were inbound.

[@imakefoodhappen8190]

1:28:19 Royal Navy Submariners get Magnum ice-creams... or Hagen Daas if we behave, which doesn't happen often.

[@red_dragonracingsilvereclipes]

looks like you should have at least the AGM-12 anti surface air lunched missiles since those were made back in the 50s or newer models .

[@MandolinMagi]

AGM-12 is long out of service, the F-4s do have AGM-65 Mavericks

[@mabinogion7023]

With the Perry, your ciws is on the rear and your 76mm is amidships so looks like you were too bow on tothe ssn19 forthem to bear.

[@TheFreaker86]

Is this a self created scenario?

[@manybot]

how do you get this mission on the NATO side?

[@dcbadger2]

You should launch Air Force tactical jets like the F-15 and F-4 in flights of 4 instead of pairs. It maximizes available firepower and is also more tactically accurate.

[@leebyrd1434]

Damn, Jive! I'm gonna have to buy this game!

[@ryanbrett4876]

Way late but I get the flava flav reference.

[@niteman555]

lmao at the Burn Notice homage

[@Sommyie]

Heck ya, navel games are what I'm here for!

[@MichaelEngelhardt-w9d]

Very unfocused, shoot one helo down, f-15 turns and 2 more helos on same distance moves on😢

[@killerbeemedia6444]

BEEN WAITING Aaron !!!

[@ChildOfVendetta]

F4s at 2000ft, missle at 15000 ft...

[@cjwiesner]

I saw this too. Launched his aircraft but didn't set the altitude on his F4s

[@luchs2907]

HOLY SHIT HE IS GAMING

[@SparklesMcFartyPants]

Is it me or does the Formation Manager seem a little 'wonky'?

[@gregpope4652]

Cool :)

[@roberthartley6869]

My brother was on 690. 03-06

[@unable2pwn]

What about an American Falklands intervention?

[@magrathean0]

You mean there is more?? Jive ..i / we am not worthy

[@patricktracy4371]

Flava Loved them tall womens.

[@ColonelEviscerator]

No nukes in a Cold War-era game? How can they claim any semblance of realism then?

[@Italianplayercvu]

They are honestly boring and hard to model, but i support them for stop-the-sub scenarios.

[@Mthammere2010]

The U.S had Nuclear SAMs as well.

[@FMJIRISH]

Someone informed on you to the FBI?

[@MandolinMagi]

Yeah, apparantly he said a bit too much about some sonar system and the vid was pulled

[@FMJIRISH]

@@MandolinMagi ooops haha

[@OO7angelo]

1:17:35, so you got to be a spy for 1 day, that's very cool. I bet you told the Russkies. " My name is Turkey,,,,,,, Jive Turkey. " hehehe

[@ДневникБармалея]

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