The Gloam-Eyed Queen & Melina | Elden Ring Lore

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@notsmough
@notsmough 11 сағат бұрын
Thank you everyone for watching my take on the Gloam-Eyed Queen please let me know your thoughts in the comments below.
@n8doggy733
@n8doggy733 9 сағат бұрын
yup. but he real question is, are you Smough or not? 😂😂❤
@BillsWorldOfBeer
@BillsWorldOfBeer 5 сағат бұрын
Clearly says not smough on his channel name
@speedforce117
@speedforce117 4 сағат бұрын
It's Ornstein
@spudthepug
@spudthepug 4 сағат бұрын
He has Smough locked in his basement.
@ramon2b2t
@ramon2b2t 3 сағат бұрын
am I onionman or not onionman?
@Wyattinous
@Wyattinous Сағат бұрын
Asking the real hard hitting questions here 🥸
@samuel-jam
@samuel-jam 8 сағат бұрын
I have 100% believed that Melina is the gloam eyed queen since I first got the frenzied flame ending. I think that Marika, like with many of her other children, infused Melina with an aspect of the world she did not want to continue - in this case, the whole concept of Death. When Melina rebelled, she was burned and was given a new purpose at the foot of the erdtree, where Marika was imprisoned. I think that Marika and Melina eventually came to an understanding that the true enemy was the Greater Will (or its false messengers) and agreed to take it all down.
@thetacobasket6821
@thetacobasket6821 8 сағат бұрын
This is my main problem with this theory, which is everything after your first sentence is complete speculation (which isn't bad, it just knocks the theory down several levels of likelihood for me). To me, it seems more likely that she is affiliated somehow with GEQ, if at all. My favorite theory is that Melina was a second half of the GEQ, similar to Radagon/Marika and Miquella/Trina, since Miyazaki confirmed the duality theme is present among all empyreans.
@samuel-jam
@samuel-jam 8 сағат бұрын
@@thetacobasket6821 completely fair, this is my headcanon and I think it is what the writers intended (emphasis on think). I’ve never thought of Melina being a second half to the GEQ, that’s really interesting
@Mumbles0225
@Mumbles0225 6 сағат бұрын
​@@thetacobasket6821 since the DLC, I've speculated that Melina is actually the daughter of the GEQ and Radagon, Melina never met Marika and was given the tasks of burning the tree by her mother the GEQ. I also think Messmer, obviously, is not Maria's true child, but is instead Radagon's and Marika basically stole him from his mother. I believe this seduction and betrayal was a dual effort between Marika and Radagon, and that the GEQ was the ruling inner god before Marika. I think it all makes sense, because there's an abundance of GEQ content in the world, and ER tends to equate frequency in lore to newer in the time line (which also logically makes sense).
@notsmough
@notsmough Сағат бұрын
Same - I haven’t really shifted from the position, so perhaps I could be accused of confirmation bias. However I do think she is a case of Occam’s razor and a lot fits
@samuel-jam
@samuel-jam 15 минут бұрын
@@Mumbles0225 I think that the Hornsent god is the father. Marika seduced him, and sealed both of her children away because of their visions of fire (I think black flame in Melina’s case)
@RyeBread4321
@RyeBread4321 6 сағат бұрын
I think the GEQ was Marika's twin. Twins play such a significant role in the story. Morgott and Mohg representing a group that was discriminated against for birth traits taking over or rejecting that system that discriminated against them. We also have Miquella representing eternal youth or naiscence and growth paired with Melenia who is always rotting or dying and declining. It seems fitting that the GEQ who mirrors the domains of Marika would be her twin. Follows a pattern anyway, with life vs death.
@notsmough
@notsmough Сағат бұрын
Never heard this theory before and I actually really like it
@FoxBatinaHat
@FoxBatinaHat 4 сағат бұрын
I believe that the tradition of binding a "shadowbound beast" to Empyreans are probably related to The Gloam eyed Queen's rebelling against the two-fingers and gods. This is probably before Radagon's marriage of Rennala. Since Ranni receives Blaidd.
@NalvakTheAdelis
@NalvakTheAdelis 6 сағат бұрын
ever since the Nightreign trailer, I keep suspecting that Elden Ring might be a Prequel to the Dark Souls games, with the DS3 Firekeeper actually being Melina.
@apolloisnotashirt
@apolloisnotashirt 8 сағат бұрын
I think GEQ is *sealed* inside Melina.
@professiggitways
@professiggitways 4 сағат бұрын
why
@joesaiditstrue
@joesaiditstrue Сағат бұрын
​@professiggitways well for one, her eye is sealed for the entire game until the very end, after the rune of death is restored. Her eye then opens up and it's, shocker, purple. we know messmer's abyssal serpent was sealed inside him by putting a seal there by Marika. One could insinuate that she sealed Melina's eye after sealing the GEQ inside her
@apolloisnotashirt
@apolloisnotashirt 20 минут бұрын
@professiggitways like most things Marika seals outergods or aspects of the world within her children and family. Examples include Beast Lord Serosh within Hoarah Loux, Base Serpent within Messmer, GEQ within Melina, Scarlet Rot Avatar within Malenia(though this was probably not her doing), and if not through their eyes then likely through their Great Runes, Radahn's Great Rune resembles the aspects of a Fire Giant, Miquella's charming rune, and thats mostly it. Rykard let himself be consumed by the Devouring Serpent.
@Luke-n1w
@Luke-n1w 7 сағат бұрын
Melina repeatedly mentions birth in the base game, so the swaddling cloth could be a reference to that
@DeathMetalDuelist666
@DeathMetalDuelist666 4 сағат бұрын
Please revisit the topic of marika/Radagon now that we know that marika was born a shaman! The way I see the timeline: Born a shaman, turned into a god, moved to the lands between to relocate the shaman, built the eternal cities and basically created the nox/numen, they created Radagon (possibly to create demigods/gods/empyreans), Mesmer and Melina were born, Mesmer was sent back to the shadowlands and waged war against the hornsent, Melina was sacrificed to burn the old erdtree and begin a new order of gold, then from there, everything we know happened (rennala+radagon, marika+godfrey, and then the shattering) then takes place
@notsmough
@notsmough Сағат бұрын
Yeh 100% will be - a Marika/original sin video will be coming in the new year for sure
@_Sevren_
@_Sevren_ Сағат бұрын
Marika is a Nunem and was already in the Lands Between when she was a Shaman
@devonramey36
@devonramey36 6 сағат бұрын
the sword being spiraled just reminds me of the hornset and their spiral belief
@ies_irae1397
@ies_irae1397 8 сағат бұрын
I have a theory that the GEQ is Messmer’s and Melina’s real mother and Radagon is the father. Marika kidnapped them as such with relative ease to contain their blasphemous powers that would pose a threat to Marika’s Erdtree Order. I think the Snake Iron Maiden’s are depicting this act of Messmer and Melina being taken away from the GEQ considering the connection to Serpents and the fire that can burn the ErdTree.
@DjDolHaus86
@DjDolHaus86 7 сағат бұрын
It's said by one of the spirits in the shadowkeep that Marika is Messmers mother
@tarnished-ml3fr3jq8w
@tarnished-ml3fr3jq8w 7 сағат бұрын
Agreed, but with the caveat that Marika was also the GEQ, in the same way that Miquella and St Trina coexisted, and in the way she will eventually become one with Radagon. (After all, someone had to leave to make space for Radagon, eh?)
@DjDolHaus86
@DjDolHaus86 6 сағат бұрын
@@ies_irae1397 the further you have to reach, the less likely it is to be true. Here's a question for you - if Melina isn't the geq, why does she return in the frenzied flame ending with purple eyes after the rune of death is broken by maliketh and not in any of the endings where she's used as kindling?
@ies_irae1397
@ies_irae1397 6 сағат бұрын
@@DjDolHaus86 I don’t think I am reaching necessarily there is plenty of visual evidence already in the main game depicting the human form of what can only be thought of as the Gloam eyed Queen both on armor sets which match the head shape of the Volcano Manor Iron Maiden’s with snakes inside them holding a baby and crying.
@ies_irae1397
@ies_irae1397 6 сағат бұрын
@@DjDolHaus86 also about Melina, if my theory that she is the daughter of Radagon and the GEQ is true then 1) she could have inherited her affinities and 2) she changes her hair to Black, we only ever see one person change the color of their hair and that is Marika to Radagon and vice versa.
@briannenurse4640
@briannenurse4640 7 сағат бұрын
I don't think she kept her identity secret. I think she didn't know until everything was burned away, including whatever Marika did to suppress her memory and seal her eye. I think she wakes up to understanding she's the Gloam Eyed Queen when her eye gets unsealed.
@themaniae4803
@themaniae4803 6 сағат бұрын
Another point about Melina is/was the Gloam Eyed Queen: It is said that Marika removed the Death from the Elden Ring, but then Maliketh took it from the GEQ. This means Marika donated the Rune to someone close to her, and who's better than a daughter? Then Melina started to kill gods and Maliketh stopped her. Also, about this, Maliketh is also called Death of the Demigods. This means he killed some demigods, and demigods are said to be Marika's children. Also, with the Dlc, now we know probably Messmer burned his sister, as his flames burns even the souls, and it's said his sister saw a flame like him. About connection with the Nox... to be fair i don't see so many connections. Indeed Godskin are creatures generated in some way, but all about them screams more a connection with Golden Order and snakes. Nox refuses the Grace in their eyes, while Godskin shows a faces on their clothes, with eyes full of Grace. Also, skin alive someone usually, in culture, means steal their essence and their strenght, and in this case, possibly, their grace. (Some fan-transaltion, nothing canon, of their songs calls a "We want our stealed grace". Nothing canon but it's damn fit good.) Also, Nox are pretty much arcane-int society, and while Dragonkin uses a little of faith with their own dragon incanttions, the effect is still pretty int-correlated, as is a cold lighting. Godskins have nothing merely cold or int or arcane, total the opposite as they use a fire. Also, for snakes, as you said the serpentine qualities of Godskin, their presence the Manor (And one protectin Ranni's corpse, and Rykard was part of that conspiration) and the protection of the altair of the snake makes me think more they are allied or even generated in a way similar to snakes. (Also the Noble clothes talks about a connection with the crucible too)
@r_bear
@r_bear 5 сағат бұрын
I imagine it was less of a "donation" and more of a "sealing"-like was done with Messmer and the base serpent.
@Scowleasy
@Scowleasy 5 сағат бұрын
I have a semi-serious theory that Melina is Marika’s own soul reborn as a new person. Marika is seemingly absent the entire game, even in their own boss fight we only see Radagon in control.
@jonnymario771
@jonnymario771 4 сағат бұрын
I feel like Melina is like an avatar of Marika.
@Mortiel
@Mortiel 5 сағат бұрын
I wonder how interpretations on the Godslayer Greatsword changed after new lore about spirals from SotE and the Gloam-Eyed Queen might be related to the Night Reign?
@Scowleasy
@Scowleasy 5 сағат бұрын
My thing is if Marika had the rune of the unborn, could she have forcefully rebirthed the GEQ and changed her into Melina? For me it would 100% be something Marika was willing to do.
@Stereo-hb2lo
@Stereo-hb2lo 8 сағат бұрын
We skinning the gods to this one 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
@professiggitways
@professiggitways 4 сағат бұрын
I think when she opens that left eye, it means that her corporeal body has been “unlocked” Ranni has a seal on one of her eyes and she’s also a ghost Shabriri is another ghost with his eyes said to be gouged out Miquella’s eyes were also sealed and he abandoned his body I think there’s something linked with sealed/removed eyes and incorporeality
@delfean2666
@delfean2666 Сағат бұрын
If the scene from the trailer is depicting Marika taking gold from a dead serpent (possibly the one Melina sided with), That would mean either she became a god after her dispute with the Gloam eyed queen, or the serpent was just an ally of Melina, and she got pissed because of his death, turning the eternal cities against Marika if she was their queen. Marika then sends those cities underground in retaliation. Just spitballing what came to mind watching the video
@DjDolHaus86
@DjDolHaus86 7 сағат бұрын
The silver tears were artificial attempts to copy the Numen affinity for being able to merge with living flesh (living jars, grafting, whatever the hell Rykard was up to). Marikas power was somehow derived from her merging with life and death, maybe Melina (her 1st daughter) was born with the aspect of death as Mesmer (her 1st son) was born with the aspect of the serpent? Mesmer was banished to hide her origins and I assume Marika thought the less desirable parts of her merging had gotten the kinks ironed out after Mesmer and so Melina wasn't banished but she instead went to rule the Nox, messed around with the silver tears, perfected the technique with the Godskins (I think they're sort of equivalent to tree sentinels) and then started an uprising because Marika was suppressing death. I think the GEQ (Melina) is then defeated and bound to the rune of death rather than the sword and this is why she only reappears after the rune is broken by Maliketh (assuming you used yourself as the kindling). Rykard, Ranni, Godrick and Godwyn had some knowledge of the process that made Marika a god but only Miquella figured out how to make it happen.
@arcanite_force
@arcanite_force 7 сағат бұрын
The "Gloam Eyed Queen is a Serpent" theory makes me wish for a sort of rerun on your lore videos, given new context and info we have as of the DLC, especially after seeing Messmer and the Base Serpent
@Luke-n1w
@Luke-n1w 7 сағат бұрын
Melinas dialogue makes it so painstakingly obvious she's the gloam eyed queen if u look at it all together. Her purpose was lost long ago (her purpose likely being death which was sealed away by marika, therefore lost), she hates her mothers designs (the removal of death, which we know melina wants to unleash by killing maliketh, whom she guides us to) and her mentioning of destined death threee times in the game. Obviously, if u connect this to her weilding destined death at the end of the game, her gloam eye/the beast eye and her prison cell in leyndell it paints a clear picture
@r_bear
@r_bear 5 сағат бұрын
Oh, I didn't know about the prison cell-any more info here?
@Luke-n1w
@Luke-n1w 5 сағат бұрын
@r_bear while it's not explicitly confirmed it was her, there's a small cell in leyndell with melinas blade inside it, so I doubt it was anyone else locked in there
@tyvalentine101
@tyvalentine101 6 сағат бұрын
thank you, shadow of the erdtree, for answering 1 question and presenting 2 more for basically every aspect of the lore
@KaiHarizor
@KaiHarizor 2 сағат бұрын
This is obviously just my unresearched idea, but wouldn’t it make sense for the serpent to be the one inside of Messmer? And the GEQ inside of Melina? Anywho, as always great video! The fun around figuring out this story is so satisfying to me.
@RedFlytrap
@RedFlytrap 14 минут бұрын
Well, i think Marika sealed the gloam eyed queen into her left eye. That or when Melina was born, she harbored the Gloam Eyed Queen. This would make sense given Messmer had the abyssal serpent sealed inside his body and was sealed away by Marikas eyeball seal. I believe that Marika wanted to spare her daughter the burden by destroying her physical body (to avoid the shit show that was Messmer) while still being able to see her daughter and giving her daughter the ability to still exist. When the Erd Tree was burned away with the flame of frenzy, her eye finally opened because Marika was no longer around to hold it back, when that tree burned (as explicity stated by the flame of frenzy IE to burn everything away and essentially reset everything) it set her free of restraint and allowed that sealed portion to finally break free. Just some head Canon, I think it fits pretty well all things considered. Especially since we know of messmer and how he had shit sealed inside him, pretty sure Marika just wanted to spare her daughter such a burden, maybe by guilt or realizing she was cursed.
@hectormanuellujambiovalle4461
@hectormanuellujambiovalle4461 2 минут бұрын
I think Melina is the Gloam eyed Queen, and she served Marika in the war against Giants, Dragons and Raya Lucaria-Carian. She was very important at that time when the Golden Order want stablished yet and the Elden Ring included the Rune of Death, because she and her apostles where the ones who could kill the other Gods, demigods and else. But when they defeated their enemies, Marika feared the power of death and decided to take out it's rune. When this happens, Melina and the apostles fought back and when fighting Maliketh, she burned the original (material) Erdtree (thats why Lyndell is all covered in ashes) and losed her body. The Rune of Death was sealed and else...
@DeywanLigma
@DeywanLigma 6 сағат бұрын
Melina literally says she’s gonna give the tarnished destined death and it shows her putrescent eye, I believe Marika only wants Godwyn back because that was the golden child, loved by everyone but his own sister, because ranni could’ve chosen another sibling, but the fam wanted him, maybe because he posed the greatest threat, or they are gonna use Godwyn as a weapon against us as the tarnished.
@willazeppeli
@willazeppeli Сағат бұрын
Gloam Eyed Queen is Dusk of Oolacile, a princess of the lost land renowned for its Golden Sorceries before it was consumed by the Dark.
@Luke-n1w
@Luke-n1w 7 сағат бұрын
Funny how the nox armour mentions "the lord of night" from night reign
@Tickerwick13
@Tickerwick13 7 сағат бұрын
I think Melina and Mesmer were the ancient gods of the dragons and giants respectively, and when defeated Merika used rebirth witch she learned from her marriage of Ralanna as Radagon and made them her ‘children’ to carry out her will. Mesmer to burn the old kingdoms that caused her people so much suffering and Melina to kill the god that she will inevitably become.
@wonderingjibril1210
@wonderingjibril1210 5 сағат бұрын
You know what?I guess she really is his sister comma it makes a lot of sense when you look at the Serpents and she has the power of fire as well. I believe that they got this from their father. Both her and her brother. I think this makes a lot more sense especially with how they all look and she also have a cursed eye. I think it's a family trait now.That some of the children have because of their and apparently the curse from the horn sent from what their mother originally did with the first Betrayal of her godhood.
@Saphedon
@Saphedon 2 сағат бұрын
I like this... Godwyn may have been the only non-corrupted though and that is why he was Ranni's target.
@finnthefannibal
@finnthefannibal 4 сағат бұрын
I have a crack theory that the "sin" Maliketh talks about isn't losing the rune of death but killing the Gloam Eyed Queen and sealing destined death, betraying her I think, or disrupting the natural dual balance of the world, after all he's found taking refuge in a giant ancient mosaleum that seemed to worship her and the twin birds in the past, when beastmen were more commonly intelligent and their dynasty was yet subsumed by Marika's golden order
@levantreven9659
@levantreven9659 5 сағат бұрын
My theory has been that Marika was the Gloam-Eyed Queen in the same way that she and Radagon are one being, but that Melina is the personification of the power of the Gloam-eyed Queen after Marika divested it from herself when she removed the Rune of Death from the Elden Ring.
@Strode_Exe
@Strode_Exe 6 сағат бұрын
My head-canon: GEQ/Melina was Marikas original plan before the Tarnished. She plucked the Rune of Death from the Ring herself, and something that vital, you wouldn't just toss away for any rando to find, you would give it to someone you trust. Maliketh killing/defeating the GEQ may have been a hiccup in that plan, or GEQ was no longer trust worthy. Now, with a Greater Will programmed dogman in control of her way out, she had another hiccup. So she turned to her husband and his army as plan B or C, cus she also somehow betrayed Maliketh as the new vessel of the rune. So maybe the Black Knives were plan B, tarnished Plan C. Great schemer, terrible follow through, that Marika.
@Coypop
@Coypop 7 сағат бұрын
praying the Nox angle of Nightreign means we'll get some elaboration on the Fingerslayer Blade.
@cameronwalton8270
@cameronwalton8270 7 сағат бұрын
I wouldn’t count on it but 🤞
@intalek305
@intalek305 6 сағат бұрын
The only thing that makes everything in the lore fit to me is that Marika was the Gloam Eyed Queen herself until she got defeated by Maliketh who was forced by the Two Fingers to turn on her against her will much like Blaidd did Ranni and was punished thereafter by being forced to become the vessel and also had the Radagon persona forced on her to keep her under control and she has been slowly being taken over by Radagon ever since until she reached a desperate breaking point (or the brink, as it is said in game) where she felt he was taking over and shattered the Elden Ring to prevent it. I think this is also why you never hear Ranni speak kindly about Radagon, and why she shed her empyrean flesh, so the same could not happen to her. She was afraid of ending up like Marika. Melina then inherited the powers of the Gloam Eyed Queen when the Radagon persona lost power. I think Radagon is a personification of the Elden Ring itself, and why it made itself a polar opposite of Marika (to perfect itself), and why Radagon thereafter sought perfection of himself and the laws of the world, because the Elden Ring had tried to take matters into its own hands through personifying itself through Radagon inside Marika's body, hence Golden Order Fundamentalism.
@TheHuntrees007
@TheHuntrees007 8 сағат бұрын
I think the gloam eyed queen is both Melina and Messmer mother
@ies_irae1397
@ies_irae1397 8 сағат бұрын
I also think this AND Radagon is their father. I said what I said
@Mumbles0225
@Mumbles0225 6 сағат бұрын
I totally agree! It 100% makes sense, and Radagon could've actually been "the seduction and betrayal".
@ies_irae1397
@ies_irae1397 6 сағат бұрын
@@Mumbles0225 exactly, while showing what looks like a giant corpse snake. Marika seduced GEQ in the form of Radagon and then betrayed her by kidnapping her children to establish her order by conquering the Land of Shadow
@Mumbles0225
@Mumbles0225 6 сағат бұрын
@@ies_irae1397 I do think Radagon is a separate person within her jarred icky existence, though. There's that one line where Marika makes a jab at Radagon, saying he wouldn't be a god without her. They're just the most extreme toxic couple lol
@ies_irae1397
@ies_irae1397 5 сағат бұрын
@ yeah that’s also true but we clearly see that their interests have both aligned and diverted from one another across their stories.
@NorthstriderGaming
@NorthstriderGaming 8 сағат бұрын
Messmer is born afflicted, containing Marika's sin (betraying the Hornsent) Malenia is born afflicted, containing the rot that Marika indirectly created by having Messmer go for Romina's church Miquella is born afflicted, having an alter ego which reflects Marika's sin of replacing her lord for Radagon Mohg and Morgott are born afflicted, having horns which points towards her crime against the Hornsent Ranni is born afflicted, having inherited the cunning and shady nature of Marika Radahn is born afflicted, having inherited her unending lust of war Rykard is born afflicted, having inherited the delight in torturing people It only makes sense that Melina would be tainted in some way and I'm fairly sure she was born as Destined Death's vessel as Marika attempted to pluck it. I'm pretty sure that Godwyn was not as pure as people tried to make it look like as well. He must have had some ugly side.
@Hexmoneyman
@Hexmoneyman 8 сағат бұрын
I think Marika and the gloam-eyed queen are the same Empyrean, just different apsects. The statue surounded by three wolves may represent 3 aspects to the Empyrean that were given protection by the two fingers. Marika left behind her erdtree incantation while her other half may have left the snake skin. After her defeat against Maliketh, Godfrey had arenas fight against the snakes to comemorate the battle between the wolf and snake.
@tarnished-ml3fr3jq8w
@tarnished-ml3fr3jq8w 7 сағат бұрын
THIS. Finally, someone saying what I'm thinking!
@tarnished-ml3fr3jq8w
@tarnished-ml3fr3jq8w 7 сағат бұрын
👏👏👏
@tarnished-ml3fr3jq8w
@tarnished-ml3fr3jq8w 7 сағат бұрын
(+ that rune of death may look like an inverted statie of Marika in modern Lands Between, but it's not an inversion of the old Marika statue we see in SOTE, it actually matches)
@Robbiebert14
@Robbiebert14 9 сағат бұрын
No, this is Patrick!
@lottaleissner497
@lottaleissner497 7 сағат бұрын
I'm quite curious about how Shaman Village fits into all this... Do the Nox and Shamans share ancestry? How come Marika is kin to the Nox (and with so much pointing towards the Noxs' culture influencing her), yet we learn in the DLC that she lived in Shaman Village and was most likely a Shaman? Would love to hear your thought on this! =) Thanks for another great video!
@JagerEinheit
@JagerEinheit 4 сағат бұрын
If you look at the swords specifically, as you said smough, that the finger slayer blade is crafted from the fetus or a mini 2 fingers that curl together to make the blade. IE the Nox stole a fetus from the finger mother Metus to craft the blade via forbidden rites? Also the Godslayer greatsword is decorated with the sigils of the crucible (spirals) as what is against Marika's kin would be most effective, channeling the power of the crucible that Marika's godhood would usurp. As to if the GEQ is the sword, it is possible, but there is nothing in the lore that suggests that the GEQ couldn't touch the physical realm herself, as the point of the relic sword is that the elden beast is unable to attack you physically only with spells, and needs the blade (radagon) to effect the player in it's fight. I tend to lean toward the idea that GEQ 's Godslayer greatsword was originally the consort, and via forbidden rites that also made the fingerslayer blade, the consort was turned into her weapon.
@theredknight9314
@theredknight9314 8 сағат бұрын
Hmm. I disagree, only because after the DLC its known that she is messmers sister and that there is physical hints of her ever having a connection to blackflame. She disappears in golden shards and looks nothing like the godskins.
@ies_irae1397
@ies_irae1397 8 сағат бұрын
I think Messmer and Melina are siblings AND the children of the Gloam Eyed Queen AND the children of Radagon AND they were kidnapped by Marika to be contained and pose no threat to her
@undead4500
@undead4500 7 сағат бұрын
she transforms in frenzied flame ending with her skin turn pale and her hair turns black. considering the player is forced to kill maliketh and restored the rune of death on the world in order to finish the game. Melina power is restored and you need frenzied flame to spare her from sacrificing herself.
@thetacobasket6821
@thetacobasket6821 4 сағат бұрын
@undead4500 her skin and hair don't change, it's just lighting. You can look up the character model
@ies_irae1397
@ies_irae1397 3 сағат бұрын
@ does her hair not become black? I would love to see that because even the texture of her hair changes
@robertrodriguez3312
@robertrodriguez3312 7 сағат бұрын
On the matter of it being a sword, that IS the gloam eyed Queen. I have to say that when double handing a weapon in the opposite hand and inadvertently placing God slaying blade on your back. It does look an awful lot like a person riding them piggyback. A female person. A gloam eyed person.😂😂😂
@careyraymartell
@careyraymartell 8 сағат бұрын
Mistranslation on Godslayer Greatsword. It should be channeled by, not from. No the Apostles dont draw power from the sword. The sword can just channel the same power
@lharsay
@lharsay 7 сағат бұрын
Without ample evidence I've come to the conclusion..... that the game didn't give us the key lore details to uncover the identity of the Gloam-Eyed Queen, nor they exact events of the night of the black knives, nor the reason behind the sealed eyes of Ranni and Melina.
@solomon9655
@solomon9655 5 сағат бұрын
Who’s excited to fight the Gloam-Eyed Queen in Nightreign?
@CoolBossFights
@CoolBossFights 8 сағат бұрын
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say something absolutely nuts. Godwyn is the child of Marika and Radagon, and Radagon Pre-dates Marika and likely melded Marika as the Crucible's inheritance as a Fell God. Godwyn basically looks like a perfectly blond Radagon and Radagon is specified in game of being of giants blood. What do we know about Giants? That's right, they predate humans. This ultimately means something even more insane: Messmer is Radagon and the Gloam Eyed Queen's son. And it's why Marika took out BOTH of his eyes and replaced one with an Iris of Grace, because Messmer had one Red storm eye like the Fire Giant and one Purple eye like Melina does too. Now this leaves left the reason why she even did this in the first place, i'm under the belief that the Hornsent were previously led by the Gloam Eyed Queen and this is who you see depicted all throughout Enir Ilim with the statue holding a child. Now onto my next insane take 💀 Melina is the daughter to the Gloam Eyed Queen and Marika, via fleshmelding of some sort as a seed into a tree. It explains why she has one Gloam Eye and one Gold Eye. This, would explain so much. The Betrayal, why Marika was even in good standings with the Hornsent at all instead of being stuffed into jars like all the other bloodflesh monstrosities with pretty female faces and long blonde hair. The Gloam Eyed Queen was in love with Marika... THAT'S the Betrayal D: Even more so, Radagon was the Gloam Eyed Queen's Lord and the events of Marika's betrayal versus the Gloam Eyed Queen made him switch sides, probably unwillingly, hence why Marika treats him so non existant and calls him the Leelhound of the Golden Order. Now here's the kicker, Marika probably found out what the Gloam Eyed Queen's next step was for the gate of divinity and it probably wasn't good, i'm betting she was gonna sacrifice her firstborn AKA Messmer. Marika then steals Messmer and forces Radagon to work for her if she ever wants to see him again. (It would explain the virgin abductor and why rykard who made them was so obsessed with them) Now, ????? (I have no suggestions what actually happened in this war yet), Marika successfully overthrows and forces Maliketh to eat her (yes, I know almost factually this is what happened) causing his addiction to Deathroot (Marika is Rune of Life, Gloam Eyed Queen is literally the Rune of Death) and started spreading FROM Farum Azula. She then forces Radagon to become her lord, and makes it so that Radagon's body gets inhabited by the Fell God and melds with him to truly become a God. When she stepped through the gate of Divinity, she essentially Melded with the Crucible and it's why Miquella needed an Omen body for his Lord's Soul to do the same and it's why he previously chose Malenia because she could just make her bloom to a full possessed rot goddess to fulfil the Secret Rite Scroll The SECRET RITE SCROLL SPECIFIES THAT A LORDS SOUL WILL NEED A VESSEL SO THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE MIQUELLA DID HIS THING, THE LITERAL DIVINE GATEWAY ACTIVATION PROCESS SPECIFIES MIQUELLA DID NOT DO SOMETHING NEW. This solves Marika and Radagon, this is it. Nobody can contradict a single thing in here I feel. The Gloam Eyed Queen is the Rune of Death itself and it's why it looks like a gnawed off corpse if you look very closely and it explains Death Root in Farum Azula a place beyond time. It rooted in Farum Azula because of the Rune of Death's presence within it. Now.... the only question remains. The Gloam Eyed Queen, Melina and THE RUNE OF DEATH IS UNBOUND! THE ECLIPSE IS STILL COMING AND THATS WHY MIQUELLA FAILED AT CASTLE SOL. WHAT IS DEAD MAY NEVER DIE.
@dannywest8843
@dannywest8843 3 сағат бұрын
Was there no mention of Metyr's face being the black flame/godskin spell seal or did I zone out
@sanityplusmilkshakes
@sanityplusmilkshakes 5 сағат бұрын
Smoughnicipality
@wuoarh0815
@wuoarh0815 6 сағат бұрын
A feminine moon is found in many cultures
@shocked-by-your-nonsense
@shocked-by-your-nonsense 4 сағат бұрын
In this video, a speaker doesn't know how to use the word 'inverted'.
@tigerchild3676
@tigerchild3676 7 сағат бұрын
Hey so I’m trying to find Tarnished Archeologists video on the Eternal Empire but it doesn’t seem to be there. What happened to it?
@alexanderhansen659
@alexanderhansen659 6 сағат бұрын
Episodes 11 and 12 in the Elden Ring Archaeology series cover the Eternal Cities.
@randlethebee2392
@randlethebee2392 5 сағат бұрын
34:23 is that the right item description?
@CrescentCrusader99
@CrescentCrusader99 8 сағат бұрын
My take is that Ranni is the Gloam Eyed Queen for a few reasons. For one she tells us she stole a fragment of Death, and we know a fragment of Death was only stolen once and by one person - the Gloam Eyed Queen. Moreover, the Godskins exist to kill the gods which suits Ranni’s mission. Lastly, I believe Melina stole Ranni’s Gloam eye as a way to gain the power to see Death, kinda like some Madara Uchiha stuff with eye stealing to gain power. As for the Gloam eye itself, Gloam is a colour related to purple. Numens like Melina have golden eyes, while Carians have blue eyes. Death is red. So if a Carian acquired Death, you can imagine it influencing the wielder’s eyes, turning them purple, as red and blue makes purple.
@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627
@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 7 сағат бұрын
This doesn't really add up, the Rune of Death as a whole was the GEQ's domain, not just a fragment. It had to be taken from her by Maliketh when she was struck down. Plus, the connection with purple is tenuous at best given St Trina's the one most directly tied with purple, which would make the connection even more separate since that would indicate Miquella as the actual GEQ. Ranni's got little to nothing actually tying her to the Gloam-Eyed Queen and honestly, it's more likely to be a Nox given that the Godskin production process is much closer to the artificial life the Nox produce.
@adawg3032
@adawg3032 6 сағат бұрын
Time to make some tea ☕️ 😌
@DaisyAzuras
@DaisyAzuras 6 сағат бұрын
It’s a hornsent relic
@studyroommusic
@studyroommusic 2 сағат бұрын
Lord of Night? So will Nox be connected to Nightreign? 😮
@Narokkurai
@Narokkurai Сағат бұрын
I'm hoping! They say Nightreign is supposed to be outside the canon, but I'm sure there's going to be valid connections between Nightreign and Elden Ring.
@ight001
@ight001 6 сағат бұрын
Some extra watching to help confirm the Melina - Gloam Eyed Queen - Joint Queen of the Nox - Moon/twilight/death connection kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGnEYpyIqZiYqJY&ab_channel=TheAlchemist
@TheSoulsBorneExperience
@TheSoulsBorneExperience 3 сағат бұрын
Wait so who are the shadows of Miquella and Malenia
@Mawal28
@Mawal28 4 сағат бұрын
Is this a brand new video or a repost?
@specialnewb9821
@specialnewb9821 3 сағат бұрын
I dont think she is after the DLC
@ladonmccabe
@ladonmccabe 8 сағат бұрын
Yes.
@chunkypokemon3295
@chunkypokemon3295 9 сағат бұрын
very good
@mannytprimeministerofthemanate
@mannytprimeministerofthemanate 8 сағат бұрын
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