The Glock P80

[@300rumman]

I bought 2 of these. One to shoot, one to collect. Now they just came out with the Glock 17 Gen 1 Classic. Now I wish I had one of each. So much for a 10k limited run.

[@BrennerBay]

My old G17, that I picked up back in ‘87, just went up in my estimation. I even have the old tupperware box ...so funny how everything comes back around. It cost me $350.00 back then.. The guy at the gun shop thought I was crazy for buying it and the local range wouldn’t let me shoot my “terrorist gun” there for the first couple of months. It’s serial number starts with “BC”...

[@rampantcolt]

That’s dope!

[@vaclav_fejt]

How much cringe did Die Hard 2 produce then? :-D

[@LiminalSpaces777]

That gun shop was run by Fudds lmao

[@BrennerBay]

Václav Fejt , Well... with the rifle and pistol club treating me like I was a criminal, and already having an understanding that a Glock would not get past a detector... I was already pretty ticked. And then idiotwood has to throw a “ceramic Glock” into Die Hard 2, I became even more outspoken at the range. There was already all kinds of hairdresser gossip and Die Hard2 didn’t help. There were people who swore up and down that a ceramic Glock existed and all kinds of crap. Finally, The Alaska State Police adopted the G17 and the Florida Marine Patrol as well...and this calmed things down a bit. That was the dawning of Glocks acceptance into the police market. Funny thing is I was routinely criticized for saying that the Glock would become an accepted police handgun. This was when the Sheriff of Quincy Florida, ( the county where the Tallahassee police academy I attended was located) said he would arrest anyone caught with a G17 under suspicion of being a terrorist. So I as actually taking quite a bit of heat just for owning a pistol that gun people wanted to ban. Now years later, just about every law enforcement agency in the U.S. carries them...in spite of the crazed Sheriff and Bruce Willis, I ended up with the last laugh...even to this day.

[@BrennerBay]

xxcdemon08 Country fudds, but fudds all the same. Back then you could pick up a REAL H&K91 from VF Volmar through Shotgun News for about $660. The guys I bought the G17 from, had an ammo can of 250 rds. of 7.62 NATO. Surplus from the 60’s primarily. I bought the whole can, in order to break my new 91. The first thing they asked was “what country are you planning on taking over?” I realized it was a waste of time explaining it to them and headed off to the range. Sighting that 91 in required a stubby phillips screw driver and a locking tool that would allow you to adjust the rear sight for elevation. Once dialed in that rifle was amazingly accurate. I voted for Bush sr. back then and the dick turned around and made the import ban...talk about a fudd. Hold onto your freedoms, once lost , they aren’t going to give them back...

[@diezelvh4133]

3 yrs later and the p80 retro is still my favorite carry. Man I should have never got rid of my original 17. 😢

[@cjr4286]

I'm mostly interested in this pistol because it's a no-frills, back-to-basics Glock. I like the Gen 5's, but it's a lot of money to buy a new slide without those forward serrations. I don't need all the grip adjustments or ambidextrous stuff. Glocks are appealing to me for their simplicity, and the original P80/G17 is perhaps the simplest Glock.

[@cagneybillingsley2165]

you don't have to use them, dummy.

[@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193]

I knew you would be the only guy capable of telling this Glock’s story in its entirety. Thanks.

[@fuzzyreticle]

It’s a cool pistol. I don’t mind the minor differences. I’m not enough of a purist to loose sleep over those. I certainly appreciate your knowledge to show the differences. Love your channel and content. Keep it coming.

[@londonjolly9174]

Sees title "Glock P80" "Cool, Chris'll cover that retro rerelease gun" Sees him holding a P38 "This'll be good"

[@giuseppe1996uno]

Glock p23

[@cleondubois1270]

Bought one of the Gen1 Glock 17s with the non drop free magazines. Wondered about those mags. Shoulda known GG had a reason for everything. Sold the 17 to our range officer & bought a Gen 2 Model 19. Carried the 19 for a number of years. The 17 was another of many I regret letting get away,

[@Peenurpool]

I really appreciate this channel and the information that it provides. I learn something new every time no matter how well I thought I have been educated on a particular subject, firearm, or part.... This is simply the best channel for information on the Internet today.

[@jordanforever2345]

Informative. Thanks Chris for the time. I learn something.

[@robertfoote3255]

Both of those pistols are gems....... the unfired Gen 1 is a absolute treasure! Thanks for the review of the P80.......when you said that the Gen 1 was bought from a estate sale and unfired.....😲😳😍 Best Wishes Chris!

[@PlayerSalt]

I dont comment much but thanks for the videos , one of the few unique firearm youtube channels

[@mbenjamin292]

Thank you for taking the time out of your day to educate people like me.100 thumbs up as always your knowledge has no equal.

[@paulscountry456]

17,22 and 31 are the best .

[@GK11415]

Thanks for another great and informative video. Keep it up.

[@WheelchairOperator]

I’m a simple man; I see Chris has uploaded a new Small Arms Solution video, I click.

[@pault.mccain6637]

Precisely.

[@skepticalbadger]

@Fui Gebhardt1 Amen.

[@Fudmottin]

I wonder if I should have kept my G30. I traded it to raise money for another gun. It was what the dealer called an "armory extra" which they claimed was a police trade in. It had Meprolight night sights already installed. There are very few guns, particularly EDCs that I don't modify in any way. That was one of them.

[@Smithsfan71]

I have one of these pistols and just love it!

[@Pewpew45]

Great video! I happened to be picking up a new Glock at my local gun store a last year and saw he had just put one in the case. He said it was the only one he could get and probably would not see another one. I bought it and left with 2 Glocks that day. Have not seen another in his store since. Guess I got lucky.

[@theshapeexists]

I bought 2 of these. To the purists who want a perfect p80 replica, I disagree. The changes glock made to this replica are much appreciated. Id rather have the more robust barrel than the paper thin pencil barrel on the original. That and I bought mine for $600 here in Colorado. Buying an original p80, would be way pricier if you can find one, and most likely would be beaten to hell

[@johnenglish4652]

Great video. Thanks. I have one on the way; really looking forward to shooting it. I'm a collector; but I shoot most of the guns I've got, so not too serious about the collecting.

[@truthjunkie9218]

Texas Gun Vault YT channel just got one and he said he won't be firing his either. Can't blame you both, I probably wouldn't either. Thanks for the vid, much appreciation.

[@exactoknife7865]

pffffttttt!......

[@markallen1413]

Great job once again 👍👍👍👍👍

[@mikemc330]

Great informative video.

[@skepticalbadger]

So it's literally a Gen3 with a novelty frame that isn't even a match to the Gen1/P80 and different (not correct) slide markings. Just as well it isn't more expensive; it wouldn't be worth it.

[@BeachBum5150]

Great video!

[@Dqalex]

I bought a P-80 a few weeks ago. Their getting harder to find. It would be great if they produce a G19 Gen 1 again next

[@Fugettaboutit]

I always preferred the earliest, less bulky/square-edged trigger-guards of the gen 1-2. Less irritation and 'Glock-knuckle', and it felt like a bit more undercut. Be nice if they included that and especially if they re-issue a gen 1-2 19.

[@GolfRemoEchoGolf2]

I had a guy offer me all kinda good stuff and a New Gen 4 19 unfired for my Gen 2 17 ?? I was almost gonna to do it..i got to looking and people are actually collecting Glocks lol... classic Glock said no one ever..but I've gotten on the plastic fantastic band waggon

[@Lutz101]

Enjoyed this review. I like that it has a finger cutout so you can get a proper grip on the mag if you get a double feed jam. I cannot understand why this feature was deleted from current production Gen3 G17 pistols (good chance this deletion will result in the Gen3 G17 being deleted from California's list of approved handguns that can be legally sold in that state). I like the P80 grip but would prefer a G17 with an accessory rail, frame reinforcing pin for use with overpressure +P+ ammo, and extractor with the loaded chamber indicator.

[@garrettjaneski6209]

For some reason, I feel like the P80 would look silly, but super cool with a Streamlight TLR-6 attached to the trigger guard up front... I would consider carrying one like that.

[@dannyv.6358]

"Glock seems to do nothing retro" 35 years later.. "lets add front serrations and an orange mag follower" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@massimobargagna5641]

1 st Gen Glock you can sharpen your knife on wicked! 1986 UFIRED PRICELESS!

[@MyFlexinIsAProblem]

Gotta add a lipseys FDE Glock 17 to your collection

[@UnknownReloader]

I checked out one at my LGS the other day and it was just way to slick in the hand. Neat, but just gripping it to hard and it slipped around in my hand.

[@greghowardbell]

I used to have a g19 with the original slam fire parts. I should have kept it

[@Tula1940_LB]

Can you do a video on the progression of Glock magazines?

[@troyspurling1910]

I have a P80, serial number 350

[@sergionatali3071]

Pretty cool pistol, but if I've understood properly it's basically a GEN3 slide with a gen 1 or 2 extractor, and a GEN 3 trigger inside the repro of a P80 frame.

[@cleckler71]

I was waiting on this one!

[@forestalfrank1074]

I think the story about Austrian soldiers sharpening their field knives with Glock slides is a myth. On my last Militia training I asked some old soldiers and nobody knew about it. Not that many carry a P80 in the first place. There might have been some cases, but I don't think it was common practice und if a superior would get wind of it you probably would get punished. On the other side, soldiers doing stupid stuff I think cleaning the plastic furniture of the Stg77 in the dishwasher is done more frequent. The P80 we shot a month ago looked like a generation 3 to me. As you said it had the ÖBH circle and upstanding triangle on slide, barrel and grip. It had the normal metal plate on the front section of the grip but no serialnumber on it. Best regards from AUT.

[@projectsdonepoorly1383]

I personally like a 100% clone accurate or nothing at all. Why get a p80 that has gen 3 parts and a gen 3 barrel? Why not just get a new gen 5 at that point...

[@Rokaize]

I know right. I don’t get who this pistol is marketed to? It’s not for collectors really, right? And for people who want it for duty or concealed carry then what is the point? It doesn’t even have a rail. So it’s inferior to a gen4-5. I just don’t understand.

[@EdwardSnortin]

Makaan The Sajuuk-Khar It’s marketed to Glock fanboys that will buy every single model that comes out, no questions asked.

[@Rokaize]

enemyhelicopters Ive has discussions with people about this. It’s like we speak two different languages. They thing it is perfectly worth buying even if it is highly inaccurate compared to the original pistol. But they want it because it’s “retro” I just don’t get it. It’s not at all retro but yet it is worth getting because it’s retro?

[@Kmurray9244]

Wait? what>... you have a gen one glock??? *mind blown*....

[@BangBang-hk4rg]

I really wish they had called it something besides “P80” A company called Polymer 80 is already using the name “P80” for their line of 80% Glock-style frames. It’s going to make web searches aggravating as hell.

[@sugarland77478]

The reason Polymer 80 uses P80, is because they knew the History behind the Glock P80 G17.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

They called the pistol the designation it was given by the Austrian Army

[@BangBang-hk4rg]

I understand what y’all are saying, but it’s not a true P80 anyway, so I wish it had been called something else.

[@sugarland77478]

@@BangBang-hk4rg Sorry but you are making no sense at all, why would Glock the originator of the P80, name their Retro P80 Pistole something other than its original name? There is no other name for Glocks original gun other than the P80. Glock has every right to use its own name regardless if another polymer company has started to use the name P80.

[@BangBang-hk4rg]

*sigh*

[@ronniesmith9568]

I'm a fiend for SAS video's

[@JamesSmith-qv9qo]

Very cool, I’m not really into collecting so this isn’t for me. I’m looking to get a Gen 5 G17.

[@explorerguy2002]

Nice, you can also tell an original Gen 1 with the plastic wings on the rails

[@explorerguy2002]

I guess $599 at my local isn't a bad price

[@720Performance]

Thinking of sending my original 17 gen 1 off to Danger Close Armament...

[@arianadiego3709]

LTD edition...🤔 --limited by how many they can sell...😜 we ordered one today... 🙂👍🇺🇸

[@brazzy1467]

I've got one on order can't wait for it to get here.

[@michaelhatfield3430]

I ordered one of these. I used to have a Gen.1 17 that I had the grip cut to 19 size and put decal grips on it. That was the best handling CCW I have had. It balanced better for me than a 19. I foolishly sold it. I want to duplicate it with the one I ordered. Original Gen.1 is hard to find and are getting collectible so this was a welcome offering

[@carlosdanger4648]

It’s 2 pins like the gen 5 and single stacks

[@williamjohnson7899]

If people though it was G17 because it held 17 rounds what do they think of the G45?

[@ritesideofthefence5857]

How can you tell the difference between Gen 1 slide and Gen 3 slide. I have a fully loaded Gen 2 17 frame and am not sure which top end will work on this pistol.

[@servicerifle16]

I've been in line for one since they were announced, go nicely with my '92 G17 Gen 2.

[@pault.mccain6637]

Fascinating... Always an informative video is what we find, from our friend Chris B. What I've heard about these Glock 80s is that it's a porcelain gun made in Germany. It doesn't show up on your airport X-ray machines here and it costs more than what you make in a month! I am fascinated by this, but frankly, I won't buy one because I'm not a collector, but a shooter and I think the Gen 5 version of the Glock is the very best, so far. I admire the effort here though and via CB I am enjoying it.

[@michaelfay794]

Chris are you 100 percent sure the P80 has an NDLC Barrel? Just asking

[@nathanielradtke7590]

Gunnies in Utah had one for like $599 or something (see recent Nutnfancy video). Were the gen 1 barrels thinner than the current production?

[@renotsttam]

I think I remember seeing in another video that the original run of Austrian military P80s did have a thinner walled barrel compared to later ones. If I’m remembering correctly it was just the military pistols and not the commercial Gen 1 G17s.

[@MrTillerman22]

Do u have the 17 compensated ??

[@Tula1940_LB]

Didn't the Austrians replace the P-38 with the Steyr GB?

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

No

[@jc-vc7xq]

Did the trigger upgrades include early gen 2 guns? Because I have an early gen2 17 with black trigger parts

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Yes sir. Email Heather at [e-mail]. I want to chat with you about this.

[@Xenophon1]

Does it have the Gen 5 slide lock spring or Gen1-4 spring?

[@douglasphillips24]

Gen1 - Gen3 single captive recoil spring. Gen4 & Gen5 are dual captive recoil springs.

[@johnphillips222]

The slide on the Glock P80 sure seems like it has the current production gas process ferritic nitrocarburization finish that is used on the Gen3 models. The finish on the P80 is NOT the inferior nDLC finish that is used on the inferior Gen5 models I cannot find any documentation on the P80 from Glock that states that the P80 uses the inferior nDLC finish. The Gen3 slide on the P80 sure appears to use the same finish as current production Gen3 models. The wear patterns on the slide of the P80 do NOT share the same problems as the Gen5 nDLC inferior finish. The ferritic nitrocarburization process for the Gen3 or P80 is NOT banned. The process started out using a salt bath method and was changed to a gas or plasma process. nDLC is just a dumb firearm finish, no matter what the marketing people at Glock lie about. Ferritic nitrocarburization is NOT banned, and it is the most common firearm finish for this market of handguns. Gun companies can make up whatever new bee ess marketing names they want to make up; it is ferritic nitrocarburization. If someone has actual documentation from Glock that the P80 does use the inferior nDLC finish on the Gen5 models, not the good ferritic nitrocarburized finish on the Gen3 models, please let me know. Thanks.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

John Phillips once Glock switched to NDLC on the Gen 5, all models switched including new production Gen 3. Glock does not do different finishes. So the P80 is the current finish.

[@jonathancolwell6749]

Come on with the Gen 2 edition!!!

[@Satchmoeddie]

The VP70 was supposedly designed to a price point to be a resistance occupation pistol for the German civilians to use should the USSR or other communist country in the Warsaw Pact invade and occupy Germany. There are still P80s online ranging from around $830-$1050 after shipping and FFL fees. The VP70 reminds me of a Hi Point, only with a really terrible trigger, a much much higher price tag, no spare parts, no warranty, and not quite as much of "why bother factor" for collectibility as a Hi Point. At least the Hi Point has spare parts and a very good warranty. It's still a Hi Point, but they are both straight blowback poly frame pistols with pot metal clunky high mass slides.

[@kirkfreeman6913]

That new mic is music to my ears, especially as I am in the back of on post restaurant, lol. Yum, Subway.

[@kirkfreeman6913]

A dowel rod through the Tupperware container is how we stored the extras at Galyan's (Plainfield and Pike Plaza stores) in the gun room when I worked there during undergrad (1987-1991). We had a padlock assembly to secure them. For those unfamiliar with Galyan's (sold out to Dick's)--en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galyan%27s

[@TheWilferch]

Browning Hi-Power was never a double action pistol....and this was stated not even after completing the first minute of the vid (0:25 - 0:38)....

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

It was a combination of features of the P38 and Hi Power that made up the modern pistol I said. Never said the Hi Power was double action, P38 was

[@TheWilferch]

@@SmallArmsSolutions ..perhaps that was your intent, but with all due respect, if you listen to your own words again..."the Browning Hi-Power..... *AND* the Walther P38....redefined the military semi-automatic pistol....by utililizing a double action......manual safety...etc,etc (0:25 - 0:38, listen again) ....". You could have separated the features better to apply only one feature to each gun individually...they way it was said does not do this, it combines the features for both pitols. Not trying to be argumentative....just saying it like it was presented, ... and to clarify the features for viewers who are new to guns, if they took it the same way I did.

[@MakingMonstersInk]

I asked you on your last live broadcast what you thought of this new Glock...I now see why Heather ignored my question! lol

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

MakingMonstersInk actually sir, this question was asked several times. I answered it. Check the video for the last live chat. You must have entered the chat late. This was I believe the first question I answered.

[@MakingMonstersInk]

@@SmallArmsSolutions I did enter late as KZbin no longer sends email notifications. I didn't mean any disrespect to you Heather by no means. I love your channel, content and you two are good people in my book. :)

[@DoubleOddJosh]

I never use a sissy loader. I load my mags like a real man 💪

[@tackytrooper]

F

[@johncouture6752]

Did they make the original mags

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Nope

[@johncouture6752]

@@SmallArmsSolutions I wish they would pre banner flood

[@JKs1776]

Nutnfancy showed one that is available at Gunnies in Orem Utah.

[@mattberry4457]

the outer finish on a gen 1 is not very durable. if you were to sharpen a knife on it, it would come right off.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

True but the surface Finnish is not the Tennifer. It is in the metal. The Black May come off but the slide was still protected from corrosion.

[@zen-Tii]

“Collecting” and “Glock” don’t seem to go together.

[@dennissmith6783]

Only if its a choice between collecting glocks or stamps

[@theshapeexists]

Thats the same thing people thought over 100 years ago with cheap run of the mill gi 1911s. Now try and find an original for less than a small fortune

[@reikyfoxxe1847]

No way id ever pay over 700 for a glock period

[@giuseppe1996uno]

Glock p23

[@giuseppe1996uno]

Gen 5

[@menumlor9365]

I remember back in the day these guns could make it past airport metal detectors with ease.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Menum Lor that was never true.

[@menumlor9365]

@@SmallArmsSolutions Yeah, I heard about it all the time. I remember watching the 2nd Die Hard movie when Bruce Willis said that. I died laughing. My thought I was a cruel person because they thought I was laughing that there are people stuck in the air and are about to crash.

[@jagpilotohio]

This is stupid. A throwback that isn’t even true to the original and isn’t as good as a current one. Dumb.

[@theshapeexists]

Some of the original parts you wouldn't want replicated. Those thin walked pencil barrels aren't tough enough for modern hot 9mm ammo. Its kinda the best of old and new. I have one and its super cool

[@douglasphillips24]

@@theshapeexists yeah & Glock is laughing all the way too Gaston's bank with my $ & everyone they've made that sold like hotcakes.

[@theshapeexists]

@@douglasphillips24 every successful firearm company who builds a great product deserves every cent for making something so good that a good portion of the human race depends on it for reliable protection. Ive given glock and s&w a ridiculous amount of money over the years. Lol

[@Tadicuslegion78]

“New Pistol”....maybe I’m really salty at the moment but I’d tell Lipsey/Glock don’t piss on my back and tell me it’s raining.

[@vlodpg]

Considering they had to tool up new molds for the frame, I'd call it a "new" old design pistol.

[@cleckler71]

It’s a retro gun. That’s the expectation. Not new high speed hotness.

[@Kmurray9244]

It always confuses me as to how people criticize Glock for not being "innovative" or doing anything "new" .. while EVERY single manufacturer TODAY is creating a literal copy of the Glock fire control group (and some, {S&W} were so anxious they got sued)... now that the patent has expired the Glock design is the new browning .....it doesn't matter what the name on the side of the polymer framed, striker fired handgun you buy... it's, at the heart is still a "glock"...

[@thejerk4478]

@@Kmurray9244 So wrong

[@Kmurray9244]

@@thejerk4478 do elaborate?

[@tonyf8167]

another 9mm... ...

[@Veritas419]

If it was a carbon copy of the original Austrian Armed Forces model with all of the proof marks, I’d be interested. It’s not so I’m not.

[@thebronzetoo]

No one cares.

[@stevenkennedy4130]

#700 like, & 100th comment!!

[@chipb9632]

haha,,sissy loader,,exactly

[@1FireyPhoenix]

Hey. When you are loading 30 17 round magazines, your thumb gets tired XD

[@chipb9632]

@@1FireyPhoenix lol,I can't afford to shoot 30 ,17 rd mags

[@1FireyPhoenix]

@@chipb9632 Those aren't shooting mags. Those are defense mags. Split between many people

[@thejerk4478]

Glock the one trick pony. Selling the same gun for decades

[@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193]

Yeah, one trick pony. Given the negative connotations associated with that cliché, I’m sure Glock is in tough financial straights. Probably not even the most copied modern pistol design of the last 30 years either.

[@Rokaize]

Johnny BagofDoughnuts why do you think theyr in a tough financial situation? They are still incredibly popular all over the world.

[@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193]

Makaan The Sajuuk-Khar sorry friend. Sarcasm over text is tough to convey sometimes.

[@Rokaize]

Johnny BagofDoughnuts I had my suspicions but I wasn’t 100% sure

[@douglasphillips24]

Because they keep making billions off that one trick so why change? Just too satisfy a few newbs

[@D5quared91]

Good gun but due to the lack of modern features and no rail, pretty much useless for a modern self defense situation. Cool collector’s gun, though.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

It was not suppose to be a modern combat pistol. Designed to replicate the 1982 design.

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

Hey look, they released a worse Glock.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Ignoramus! Exactly! It is retro! Not meant to be modern! It’s from the past!

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

@@SmallArmsSolutions it's just a bizarre product launch to me, ESPECIALLY at the cost.

[@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193]

Invidious Ignoramus what do you think of brownells retro AR15’s? Colts retro 1911’s? Magpul’s retro T-shirts? What about converse chuck taylor all stars shoes?

[@Rokaize]

Johnny BagofDoughnuts Aren’t the brownells retro ARs like really close to the originals though? They even use the same mags as far as I remember. Pencil barrels are used and all that other retro stuff. The uppers have the carry handle and everything. Do colt retro 1911s actually have the original style parts? If so they’d use 7 round old school mags and not be able to feed anything besides 230gr FMJ. If that is the case then I’d be fine with it. I don’t know anything about magpul T-shirts The retro chuck taylors basically look exactly like the old ones right? That’s the problem. This gun barely shares anything in common with the real p80. Doesn’t even have the correct markings or correct magazines. It’s just a modern Glock with a retro paint job, essentially. What is the point?

[@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193]

Makaan The Sajuuk-Khar retro sells. This looks like a gen 1 Glock. Even says p80 on it, which is unprecedented for American release. That further adds to retro credibility. So when fools say “look! A worse Glock!” I shake my head.