The God Mutant Clones: Sins of Sinister/Immortal X-Men 8 (Comics Explained)

What's going on in foggy old London town in the year of our lord 1895? Well, it’s only Sherlock Holmes, Mystique and Destiny on the tracks of a murderer and uncovering a truth that's significantly more sinister…
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[@Matt_El_Comicologo84]

I gotta admit, this reworked origin for Mr. Sinister is bonkers. I like it

[@callmeriggy]

Dude, same. It's just very.... Mr. Sinister.

[@nathanieljackson5554]

Sinister is probably one of the best X-men villains and now having the revelation that the "diamond" Sinister is one of four clones is a great twist to his back story.

[@iangossett2010]

Spoiler bruh

[@worldender9388]

@@iangossett2010 I mean that fact has been spread out between several runs and has been said like a year ago in X-Men when they take out Cordyceps Jones. And in x force with all the stellaris stuff and what's going on with what's her face with the green hair.. so yeah spoilers but only for people that don't care enough. Not to mention if you are looking through comments before finishing the video then you should expect to see spoilers..

[@KneeGrowDoingKneeGrowThings]

I just love the idea that the clones are distinct and have their own desires unlike multiple man. They aren't working towards the same goal

[@jlr726]

I see your Sinister and Raise you Beast lol

[@ugoeze7360]

@@jlr726 I see your Beast and raise you Venom and the Klyntar 😵‍💫

[@DenizenoftheAges]

Mr. Sinister is truly underrated.

[@damianstarks3338]

Yes he is.

[@KryyssTV]

I like the Jekyll and Hyde element now. It feels like it gives Essex a bit more substance as we can readily say his extreme behaviour is the result of Apocalypse essentially doing his "four horsemen" trick on him since we know that process has an element of psychological conditioning thrown in. Hopefully Marvel did this because they've decided this is how to introduce mutants and specifically Nathaniel in the MCU.

[@RossMalagarie]

I think its because he's more of a behind the shadows enemy who rathers to study and manipulate over out in the open and fight and this makes him more dangerous because he is changing, controlling, and manipulating behind the scenes and if you don't see or know an enemy is there you can't fight him then you can't beat him. Super smart tactic.

[@KryyssTV]

@@RossMalagarie The Sherlock Holmes reference here is a bit of a nod to that fact I suspect. Essex is very much like Dr Moriary.

[@jimjaspers2804]

How so? He is widely used in X-Men media while being known and appreciated universally throughout the fandom.

[@erikvincent5846]

Irene Adler is a fictional character in the Sherlock Holmes stories written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. A former opera singer and actress, she was featured in the short story "A Scandal in Bohemia", published in July 1891. Adler is one of the most notable female characters in the Sherlock Holmes series, despite appearing in only one story. While not technically a criminal and bearing no malice towards Holmes, she outsmarts him and evades his traps. Sherlock Holmes refers to her afterward respectfully as "the Woman."

[@pauljones4056]

Couldn't of put it better myself

[@Kenshiro3rd]

Not “the Woman” but THE Woman.

[@raycharles178]

@@Kenshiro3rd that's what he said stupid

[@Kenshiro3rd]

@@raycharles178 it’s not what he said. It’s how he said it. The emphasis is on THE. He got the capitalization of Woman right though.

[@CorbCorbin]

And Rachel McAdams played Irene Adler, in the Guy Ritchie movies, in which she was definitely _The_ Woman. Interesting that she was Dr. Strange’s love interest, played by Cumberbatch, who played Holmes on the successful BBC series, which also featured Irene Adler in two episodes.

[@antwan1357]

Mr Sinister never ever stops surprising me on every single story .

[@geoffreyedwards9859]

Sinister was always one of my favorite characters, love that he’s getting his shine at this moment

[@mattstyles2498]

Them not knowing about each other or anyone else not knowing about them is pretty damn far fetched. All that hes done and done to the mutant community and how smart he is. There is no way they just dont know of each other.

[@SPSax4]

I was thinking the same thing lol.

[@mattstyles2498]

@@SPSax4 right lol? I mean just a story for fun but that a huge suspension on dis belief

[@johnathanmartin1504]

They could have genetic blockers to prevent them from knowing about each other. This is Sinister we are talking about. Genetically engineered timebombs are kind of his specialty (it's the main reason you DO NOT want him messing with your DNA to give you powers in the Marvel universe).

[@hoppinghobbit9797]

Their memories were tampered.

[@halcyongrimes]

Ummmm, nobody noted the fact that Destiny's real name, Irene Adler, is a character from Sherlock Holmes?

[@johnfranklin87]

I did. Didn't even know he was talking about a mutant named Destiny until he mentioned it lol

[@lukeliederbach7623]

And south park lmao. She's Mr Adlers dead wife

[@palmereldritch4166]

Yeah.... But ,who is Destiny's Child?

[@KelsaRavenlock]

I actually just opened the comments to mention that Irene Adler was Sherlock's love interest. Luckily your post was most recent so I didn't have to search the threads to see if it was mentioned.

[@microscopic.caterpill]

@@palmereldritch4166nightcrawler

[@herwinvondoom8973]

I'm really digging the story. sinister was always one of my favorite villains and I never felt like they did enough with the character. I'm very surprised the MCU is not try to use him already but they probably just don't know what. 🐙

[@MichaelBoogerd]

They could have an angle in the MCU that he was in background pulling strings to influence events happen in the way that they should etc... but what do i know.

[@jameswesker15]

They might cause they are bringing in the high evolutionary. Who is connected to mr sinister

[@Hades2Eros]

The symbols on the cloning vats are from a deck of playing cards. What colors were in playing cards during the time period of Sherlock Holmes? Red & black. The one that visits Nathaniel Essex in the asylum is the diamond headed version or they all did. The reason I say that the diamond headed version is because that is the one that is Nathaniel Essex after I mind transfer. This would explain why that one is so much more eccentric than the others.

[@thepurplebox380]

I love how this video was a journey through Sherlock Holmes, Frankenstein, Dracula, and Dr. Jekyll & Mr Hyde.

[@senhorkorracha]

Oh wow, Destiny's name is Irene Adler! That's Rogue's adoptive mother's name in X-Men Evolution, and Mystique is her biological mother. This one flew right under the radar!

[@hunterorencia3572]

Wow never knew that.

[@CorbCorbin]

Yeah, and it’s also the name of a beloved character, from a Sherlock Holmes story. Holmes called her _The_ Woman, by the end, as she was a step ahead of him, and beat his traps, which many later writers used to make her a love interest, or the one woman Holmes may have loved, etc. With Guy Ritchie’s Sherlock movies, with Downey Jr., being the most recent, big budget, theatrical released, movies, also featuring Irene Adler, as Holmes love interest. It’s, interesting, that it was Rachel Mcadams, who played Dr. Strange’s love interest, playing Irene Adler, in those movies, to Cumberbatch’s Strange, who played Sherlock Holmes on the successful BBC series, who also had two episodes with Irene Adler. Thats a lot of degrees of Kevin Bacon.

[@hoppinghobbit9797]

I thought Mystique adopted Rogue? Owen and Priscilla are her real biological parents.

[@MoCa1979Jr]

I liked reading Sinister's origin as a kid, when he was 1st given his own mini-series, but I also kinda like this retcon. Hopefully Apocalypse is featured & reveals that Essex was a latent mutant, whose X-gene he activated. Essex's newfound powers should've allowed him to fake his own death, & he should play a major part in this Sinister centric arc (alongside his 4 clones).

[@austintrees]

I'm so glad they're finally addressing the other sinister with the club on his forehead... I was beginning to think I missed something.

[@Heavenlyhadouken]

Any one else notice almost all the main events lately have been mainly based around the X-men/Mutants. Also a lot of the other events are tying into the X-men comics🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@eghoseisiramen1892]

X-men movies babyy

[@Wyndamn]

X-Men MCU.

[@hellrello2739]

Yea quite obvious they doing it for the mcu getting the retcons and what not in order.

[@drewt1717]

@@hellrello2739 that or ( just as likely) trying to get their good stories into print before Dizwiz goes and craps all over their last un-ruined characters, lol

[@SoupedUpCustoms]

well, ever since Disney acquired the X-Men movie rights from Fox. X-Men comic creatives have nothing but to give all out now. nothing to hold them back to tell a good story. I seem to remember the days when X-Men and Fantastic Four comics had been pushed in the backburner just because Fox still had the movie rights.

[@SoupedUpCustoms]

Makes me wonder if there's a retcon or a clash of some sort into Chris Claremont's initial idea for Mr. Sinister when he co-created it. Writer Chris Claremont conceived Sinister as a new villain for the X-Men. Having felt "tired of just going back to Magneto and the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants and the same old same old" Claremont recalled: Dave Cockrum and I went over ideas, and what we were coming towards was a mysterious young boy-apparently an 11-year-old-at the orphanage where Scott (Cyclops) was raised, who turned out to be the secret master of the place. In effect what we were setting up was a guy who was aging over a lifespan of roughly a thousand years. Even though he looked like an 11-year-old, he'd actually been alive since the mid-century at this point-he was actually about 50 [...] He had all the grown-up urges. He's growing up in his mind but his body isn't capable of handling it, which makes him quite cranky. And, of course, looking like an 11-year-old, who'd take him seriously in the criminal community? [...] So he built himself an agent in a sense, which was Mister Sinister, that was, in effect, the rationale behind Sinister's rather-for want of a better word-childish or kid-like appearance. The costume... the look... the face... it's what would scare a child. Even when he was designed, he wasn't what you'd expect in a guy like that.[6]

[@allanquinn6015]

I'll be honest I'm not a comic book reader but I'm addicted to your channel Rob.

[@ButtSauce666]

I think you might swing for the other team brother.

[@kiefdemon1979]

We're all here for his sexy voice, the comics are just a plus

[@Alvin-xs7db]

I think most of us here dont even read comics so you arent alone

[@idonotcair]

Me as well it's great content to do the dishes and other such chores too

[@jhamilton1007]

I read comics.

[@garyhill7220]

Love it when Rob compares something he's explaining to pinhead and the cenobites....love it

[@kevincrespo5569]

I’ve been waiting for this release!!

[@samuelbankston2108]

You brought up hellraiser. If you haven't I recommend reading the trades from 2000 up. Some really good stories. Like Pinhead quits and becomes human and again and so much more. Its so good

[@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462]

This origin was cool. Really cool. Unless the clones find a way to revive the real guy, and they want answers, or they act like, "Father." That kind of thing.

[@knightsblight]

Rathr they be independent with their own schemes

[@firechickenreviews]

What a watch! Love it gets me excited for comics again, huh what a fun origin hehe

[@Viper6332]

This is a really clever change and opens up so many stories going forward

[@Scylithen]

When you find out that there are 3 other Rob's out there each with their own youtube channel reviewing stuff each thinking they are the true Rob. 😏

[@blaqbond2162]

Sinister is my favorite villain and I wasn't even aware of this story! That's amazing

[@harmonicartist]

Beyond Omega Level: Rob’s Hype

[@PrestonThorpe]

This is a really interesting new wrinkle in the development of a DnD campaign in running involving Manshoon, canonically a powerful individual who set up a dozen clones, expecting to have a dozen different failsafe measures, and when he died they all went off at once... I might have to do more research on Sinister and draw from this. Love your content, thanks so much!!!

[@daveluna7931]

Cool new back story 😊😊

[@omegahtv6779]

Ohhhhh snap. And even in the 4 clones, the fear and respect of Apocalypse remain. Great video brother Rob, keep keeping on!👍🏿

[@KBliss-pg1qn]

woo that is CRAZY!!! I love this twist to his Backstory.

[@johnfranklin87]

Even though I never knew about Raven from DC, i always assumed that's what Mr. Sinister's red diamond was, some kind of jewel or something. The fact they made it into playing card suits is really awesome even as simple as it is. Definitely can't wait to see what happens

[@microhomebrew]

BRILLIANT. Super cool

[@biocapsule7311]

I like it a lot, give a lot more context. And now there are 4 of them, each different.

[@OfficialYoutubeOfKFC]

Beautiful

[@thewatcher9804]

This is getting good.

[@nielsfrederiksen6636]

Love mr. Sinister and what a cool and fitting twist to his origin. Intrigued tonsee where Sins of Sinister goes from here.

[@coffey4555]

Nice. Wouldnt mind seeing the spade sinister run around

[@alexobrien4466]

Love it.

[@antonymmoone8783]

Very interesting 🤔👍👍

[@wagnercharles7909]

This is a dope story. Terrific twist

[@Theurbannerdneoh]

It’s nice that we bet a fleshed out version on this character finally

[@EJ_D._Kidd]

First time I seen a origin change go so successfully

[@Khail707]

One of the best reworks origins ever. This one was really good.

[@loccaleus1]

That's dope. Mister Sinister and wolverine been 2 of the most mysterious characters in marvel when I comes to back stories. Dope new origin no doubt

[@nmangreum]

At work listening to this banger EARLY!!!

[@marquisxmaps]

best storyteller on YT

[@dogginbebe3511]

Wow interesting, The Sinister deck of cards.

[@meteor22]

I think it's super cool. Mr. Sinister is such awesome design of a villan.

[@hidebehindyourscreen]

Just another reason he’s in my top 3 villains of all time

[@EtotheFnD]

Rob...you really should cover ISOM #1

[@eternaldreamer37]

NOW THE Otter cards make sense!! THANKS ROB!!👍👊

[@JustPaladinNow]

i like this its right in line with something he would do but more importantly it takes a character that has so much depth and story behind but ultimately was a bumbling fool something meaningful and in some ways humanizes him maybe not a fool but always ultimately a failure and just a lackey. its also alot darker and that fits with him too. god can you imagine what the 3 others have been doing all this time. thats soooo much history we missed out on

[@kyleofthekites]

loving more x-men stuff!

[@scotchbarrel4429]

Sick origin 👊😎

[@KMDN__]

Love it

[@cptsketch13]

That's amazing

[@Occulturally]

Thanks rob tou the best

[@thefonsotube]

Yeah....that's pretty wild man

[@graphicx1000]

what the heck mind blown what a twist very interesting that explains the diamond that crazey it would make an interesting origins movie if done rigth

[@japango1]

Everything is not important Rob...🤣🤣🤣

[@itsthatman57]

Oh God damn. That is epic.

[@KryyssTV]

This feels like an MCU tweak. Tying Exeter into the history the Weapons Plus programme and making him an agent of Hydra automatically gives him a firm anchor within the familiar MCU lore than even casual audiences can remember. It also fleshes out his character substantially as Nathaniel was always something of an independent character exclusively in the X-Men comics but this establishes him as a freelance scientist who's prepared to work for anyone regardless of the ethical situation. Which does fit with Sinister's very opportunistic personality.

[@cosmicdropout8187]

Is pretty fire, Mr Sinister is a amazing character, Sins Of Sinister is a fantastic read

[@gnarlybastard8687]

That’s so dope

[@seanrichardgreen]

This is exciting ♦️

[@wugglesx]

I think the cenobites from hellraiser it's actually a pretty apt comparison waiting even talking of really on. They pretty much gave up on it after the first movie or two but "angels to some demons to others" the cenobytes originally aren't actually good or bad . To keep it short there simple purveyors of pleasure. (You just may not like all there ideas of pleasure lol)

[@rabumalal]

so diamond in krakoa, spade in xmen red, clubs with orchis, we are still missing the heart clone!

[@rickm3482]

Holy crap that's an amazing reworking of the Sinister origin.

[@GoFigureGo]

Mr. Sinister is like its morbin time

[@KM-04]

I see Mr. Sinister and I click!!! Bonkers!!!

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Now, it all makes sense.

[@ModifiedHill]

I'm excited

[@braindeadgaming273]

Love this origin

[@JM-qz4ik]

everything in comics comes full circle . . .Diamond Sinister is going to be the one in the end . .. Highlander style!

[@Wyndamn]

In the end.....there can be only one....

[@narcissus9732]

loved it sinister is defo onee of the best things out of the new era of x men

[@morganlemke]

Baron Mordo explained please!

[@reggiefurlow1]

That works so well with his marvel snap card

[@bigpunchee]

Gotta watch out for those Cinnabites from Hellraiser 😁

[@jameswalker4291]

Kinda cool twist but sucks to know Nathaniel was lost to madness instead of just becoming madness. I'm interested to see where this goes

[@JamesBrown-ik6hd]

Man....ROB! The last minute of this video hits hard! Nathaniel Essex has been dead and Four Sinister clones run-N wild, oh the possibilities!

[@thecollector1913]

Diamond Sinister is my Sinister. That being said I do love the fact we have so much more to explore within the other sinister lines.

[@doodoo5594]

That "You're a ghost. You're a ghost. You're a ghost." hits different now after issue 18, I'm guessing once the AI established itself as a Dominion it went back and killed the original to make sure it was created, like Sinister was telling Charles.

[@chuxkp7512]

The pinhead reference was spot on

[@joeypadilla9728]

Man I'm sitting on pins and needles til that four sinisters story drops in july

[@DoctorSquirt]

This makes me want more MCU movies set outside of present day. Imagine a Blade movie set in the 1800s with an old Victorian Dracula running around or something to that effect

[@NJSmithMusic]

Take a shot everytime Rob brings up Weapons + or Project Wideawake.

[@shockwavethenewx-man9301]

Beyond Omega Level: Icon (DC Milestone Comics)

[@justanothercollector43]

Shame how everyone is gonna live Sinister now lol been my favorite since a kid I always loved his relationship with Scott and the summers tree

[@walterroche8192]

The Sherlock Holmes but was just more of their deconstruction & substitutions of make characters. Eye rolling at best That sheit aside I always love a good Sinister character background dive.

[@eliandervalderen5849]

Well that's an interesting new origin I like the one-way apocalypse transformed him into sinister.

[@MARQUE9368]

This Origin is pretty Amazing!!!

[@erobos111]

Brightburn Request👿Beyond Omega Level: Kulan Gath!

[@thesamuraiman]

That's kinda wild

[@dannytarver4533]

I'm going to wait and see where this goes...

[@beatooze8025]

I wonder if "Diamond" sinister is the only one to clone/splice mutant x-genes into himself? At the beginning of house of X, Current/Mutant sinister killed and took over as the leader of his group. The only Sinister to survive getting an x-gene.

[@dbears1603]

Great addition to his back story. Though how did destiny live for so long

[@antwauneharris6663]

Genius

[@hoppinghobbit9797]

I feel sad for the guard who was killed by Mystique. Damn if I do, damn if I don't.

[@kamenrangerzeo8251]

You help make the stories of Comics the best thing to listen to Rob. Mystique Holmes: The Sinister evils of Essex.

[@crapshot321]

I've just noticed. The original Nathanial Essex while talking to the pair drew the diamond symbol on the blackboard. Coincidence? Or later plot point down the road?

[@2Goodest]

I was kinda wondering about that. The Sinister that was caught in the alley was Diamond Sinister, and he reverted back to Nathanial Essex to then draw the diamond. He was also the one captured, locked away, and "died." So I'm wondering was that the original Nathanial Essex?

[@TubezThe1]

Man, I can't wait till you read X-Men red and legion of x.