The Godfather Of Vaporwave: Oneohtrix Point Never

[@sebdot_]

If you have any ideas on any albums or artists I should cover, drop em down below!

[@dreamy2339]

Vektroid

[@winesue]

Matmos or Aphex Twin

[@HAV0X_]

Telepath

[@thepiecesmissing]

George Clanton

[@helpme8993]

Skeleton would be a great subject. Their intermittent releases throughout the years as well as their influence in the early vaporwave scene would make an interesting video

[@PadChennington]

dude that oneohtrix point never animation starting at 0:53 was SO tight!!! amazing job on this.

[@sebdot_]

Dude thanks a lot man, was a fun intro to edit!

[@sidespike6262]

Omg I came here after watching chennington's recommendations to get into vaporwave and listing to eccojams

[@SlyHikari03]

Ayyy!

[@andyparanoia]

what track was playing?!

[@Idontwantyourcookies]

@@andyparanoia I wanna know too!

[@josephjennings6970]

as much as I hear his influence on vaporware as we know of it today, I would say Boards of Canada's first mixtape is the earliest form of vaporwave that I can think of

[@JimmyMcqueen]

Omfg thank yoouuu... I was scouring the comments to make sure someone else called this out... BOC is way under credited for their influence.

[@quirkypurple]

@@JimmyMcqueen I'm here with you too.

[@afiqula]

Ahh yes roygbiv

[@averyjenson]

Hip hop also had quite a substantial affect on the genre too. Vaporwave probably wouldn’t exist had it not been for sampling, chopping & screwing, and the pure instrumental bliss of artists like MF DOOM, J Dilla, RZA, Kanye, and Madlib. The Avalanches also come to mind. But Daniel was the synthesis the genre needed - he was the one that brought together the sounds that would bring the genre into being.

[@4winged0celo7]

exactly, the early examples they used of OPN made me think "hey, this sounds inspired by BOC!"

[@DerekPower]

Excellent job. In fact, this encapsulates not only what Daniel Lopatin has done but also why vaporwave is the way it is. So for me personally, my first exposure to 0PN was not through Returnal or Replica but from the next album, R Plus Seven. Because of this and what it would be mean to me later on, this album for me is what encapsulates vaporwave. Granted it doesn’t use artefacts of past music in the way that Replica or Eccojams as Chuck Person did. But it goes even more basic and fundamental: a basic MIDI soundfont (or what sounds like it at least). The timbre evokes the 1980s and even into the 1990s. And yet it is executed in a manner that is a far cry from those decades. This to me is what makes the scene exciting. It’s not just mere regurgitation or recycling of past efforts. It’s building on the past to create something new and interesting. Furthermore, it’s the drive to create something new or different or true to the self that’s key to the scene. In fact, when I started listening to vw back in late 2017, I found that relentless creative drive to be quite strong there. And as someone who was in a music-making hiatus (for an assortment of reasons), it reminded me of why I wanted to make music in the first place. And it didn’t take me long to realise: there is no reason as to why I couldn’t do this. Thus, I was musically reborn as キラヨシ. As my thank you to Daniel Lopatin, the first track of Reincarnated Resurrection (called Reenkarniĝo revivigita or Resurrected Reincarnation), contains my own processed loop from Ian Van Dahl’s “Castles in the Sky” (which is the second half of A3).

[@squeebbb]

I won't disagree with anything you said here but I also think James Ferraro deserves credit for developing this "cheesy synth" style of music. Rerex Pt 1 and 2, Clear, Heaven's Gate - all extremely lofi and without sampling but still maintain that same theme and feel. It amazes me when an artist can take such cheesy and unconventional synth sounds and form a masterpiece with them.

[@DerekPower]

@@squeebbb I think it was Pitchfork’s review of R+7 that suggested it was his musical response to James Ferraro and, in particular, Far Side Virtual. =]

[@maxspencerkarinen6463]

I'm pretty sure R Plus Seven is made mostly from Omnisphere and Korg M1 presets

[@GALAFUTURA]

Interesting. But don't forget to credit DJ Screw. He was slowing funk and rap down back in the 90s

[@forgottenmedia5172]

Just my opnion, I think Screw(R. I. P) should be credited if the video was more "technical" oriented(chop e slow down samples for ex,like you said) but "conceptually" they are on two different tracks for me..even if Eccojams for Lopatin was also a sort of tribute to Screw(R.I.P)

[@jwgmail]

Dude, thank you. Seb. mentions chopping and screwing but doesn't mention DJ Screw. If there were no Screw, Eccojams v1 most likely would never have happened. Chopping and Screwing is not rocket science by any, any means. It's just a different genre of music being screwed, as opposed to rap. I was screwing my friend's songs for fun forever ago.

[@j.jonahjameson4781]

DJ Screw took inspiration from Cumbias Rebajadas he'd listen in the US-MX border

[@jwgmail]

@@j.jonahjameson4781 holy shit that is interesting. And it sounds like CR started by accident when a turntable's motor was "grinding down"

[@steezemcgee]

For sure screw is a heavy influence especially to opn the tupac song off eccojams is basically dj screw homage

[@eccojammed]

Amazing video! I'm the uploader of the ECCOJAMS album and been listening to it for almost 10 years now. I never thought of Replica as a vaporwave album, but as you mention it I could get into that idea. My favorite OPN album is R Plus 7, because for me that album is even closer to vaporwave. For me, Replica is the TV commercial vaporwave, but OPN Style. But, R Plus Seven is more like a 'corporate lobby'/'modern architecture'/'bathroom' vaporwave album for me, if that makes sense ;)

[@sebdot_]

Hey! I can def feel that vibe. I tend to look at R Plus 7 as a more clean and fleshed out version of replica that really cleaned up the concepts OPN built with replica. Great record.

[@DerekPower]

You probably saw my comment praising R Plus Seven =]

[@Xanaduum]

I had no idea the Eccojams guy was Daniel Lopatin. For years! 😅

[@Ludamage]

Sweet video about our vaporfather OPN! Subbed on your channel to see more videos about another important figures ^^ Thanks for taking a footage from my old MV i did back in the days for EccojamA3 :D

[@sebdot_]

love u boi

[@Ludamage]

@@sebdot_ Thanks ^^

[@andreamucerino6745]

This video is the perfect introduction to Vaporwave

[@JaimeAndresJaramillo]

Man this mini documentary is so good. Great voice by the way

[@gentlemenloungediningcult]

Damn this editing is tight

[@sebdot_]

[@llyourdudesnickerll9823]

This video was really interesting and I'm seeing information I haven't seen documented on KZbin before. I would love to see more vaporwave content like this!

[@merridius2006]

I was subscribed to sunsetcorp since a long time ago. I didn't even know that it was OPN. He had a lot of playlists of videos on the channel and they were a blast to watch. So random and yet so meaningful somehow, best samples ever. I was able to save a few of them but I guess the culture is lost forever :(

[@TUPPERWAVE]

Bloody fantastic video mate 💪

[@DaydreamDeluxe]

Oh wow, this is so well done, brother!

[@francescaa8331]

Thank you, I was looking for a deep dive on this. Nicely produced video.

[@percybyssheshelley9694]

Good stuff, great work! As a fan of OPN, I’m glad there’s now a good video documenting his history.

[@saidpulido6225]

This video doesnt explain only thr great work of lopatin , this explain the artístic history of a nostalgic movement in the internet , the Wave side of a figure vision , Lopatin it's a Genius but Seb. can explain so good , great video!!

[@diegolandaeta303]

Such a great video! Looking forward to the James Ferraro one :)

[@sebdot_]

Thanks! Should be a fun video to work on.

[@jobrant]

I got into vaporwave through 0PN, and got into 0PN from my favorite drone artist, Forest Swords. Not sure that the trajectory from FS to 0PN is as obvious to everyone else, but bless 'em both because I love them. And agreed, Replica is one of the best albums. Period. Thanks for bringing this deep dive to me and the masses. 😊

[@LucasSantos06]

Amazing video! Can't wait for the next one!

[@JimmyMcqueen]

I like oneohtrix point never, or else I wouldn't have clicked on this video, but Boards of Canada is way under credited for their influence.. if we're gonna be real, the Sandison brothers are the real godfathers of vaporwave, whilst oneohtrix is more or less just propelled forward by the subgenre.

[@not.spir0s]

Nah, BoC certainly had an influence but OPN, James Ferraro, Spencer Clark, and the rest of the hypno pop crew are what really got it going. By saying that they're the ones that started it due to the influence they had we can trace it back further to the first 2 AFX ambient albums, as OPN has sighted them as some of his most influential albums ever.

[@iwantmycctv]

Fantastic points about anonymity and artistic freedom. In addition to avoiding copyright, I think there can be a lot pressure for modern plunderphonic artists to reference and manipulate obscure media. The most obvious benefit being that the listener (or even the artist) lacks pre-conceived notions about the obscure sample. And when talking about authorship, the obscurity itself can give the sense that a particular manipulation is more "yours" as an artist. What's incredible about "Eccojams" is that instead of relying on obscure samples, Lopatin obscures massively familiar music. He repeatedly takes them somewhere new or beyond recognition. As many have pointed out, the album finds moments and feelings within a sample and extend them seemingly to infinity. The question then arises: was that feeling always there within the original? Or did the artist create it? Did he add to it? Or both? That's a pervasive question across Vaporwave as a whole, I guess. Where does one artists work begin, and the others end. Point being: the Chuck Person moniker (perhaps "chuck" a play on words for "throwing" or "throwaway"?) seems to have given Lapatin the freedom to explore a concept without any ties-despite the fact that almost all of us have ties to the music he sampled. Very glad Eccojams exists.

[@jesuschristimsoblueallthetime]

you deserve more views

[@carlkellner1310]

Wow, thank you for taking the time to create this more in-depth look into Daniel Lopatin's music so far - I just discovered his stuff recently, and your video helps me a lot in understanding the context and history to the amazing music I'm hearing from him. Great video!

[@not.spir0s]

His vid gets alot wrong actually. It's sad that someone like you stumbled upon this and had a wrongful history of OPN read to them. I'd take the time to look thru his work and ask around the discord if I were you.

[@oedipascourage6262]

Through the algorihtm, I found a great channel, FINALLY!

[@sebdot_]

Bless the algorithm

[@raymondbragin8351]

Love hearing about opn, would be very interesting if you did a video on jpegmafia, I feel like a lot of stuff I see about him doesn’t go too deep into what he’s been doing especially not before veteran came out

[@RegalAbstract]

Seriously

[@TheRealMike1976]

Fantastic video man

[@sebdot_]

Thanks man!

[@Chiefahleaf]

Definitely enjoyed this vid. I agree that loptin majorly influenced the movement with remixing and tweaking old ideas into something new. I would love to see a analysis of skeleton's first debut album sometime.

[@sebdot_]

I love Skeleton, definitely on the list.

[@broken_canyon1153]

Amazing video dude. Amazing editing and super informative. Really looking forward to more.

[@nathandavis7709]

That black Sabbath bit caught me off guard, lol

[@xyphoxdemon]

I really enjoyed the production of this video, and this video is good for someone just getting into Oneohtrix Point Never, but there's really been a lot missed, mixed up, and misattributed. Most importantly to the video, Oneohtrix Point Never didn't start making vaporwave as Chuck Perrson, he and Joel Ford had a project called Games where they released 3 mixtapes of pure vaporwave before Eccojams released. It's also maybe understandable to attribute Replica's influences to Returnal, but if you're interested in vaporwave, Oneohtrix Point Never released an album called KGB Nights / Blue Drive (Oct 2009) before even Russian Mind which had multiple pieces of proto-vaporwave and sampled noise. Some other nit-picks that are kinda beside the point of the video: choosing to start Daniel Lopatin's electronic career with Infinity Window's second album is just strange. It's literally his 27th release, and was released the same year as KGB Nights. He had been releasing electronic music as Dania Shapes as early as 2004 before he took the name Oneohtrix Point Never, and the glitch-based noise of those releases could've been interesting to draw parallels with in Replica and Eccojams. Year and a half old video so idk who is really gonna read this but yeah, good info to keep in mind.

[@ricjenner1120]

Thanks for this. OPN has been incredibly influential and inspiring for me since I discovered his album Returnal, and saw his interveiw on the VICE Motherboard series Electric Independence.

[@maroromamora]

i love how you express yourself, oneohtrix is one of my favourite artist ever, you can make an analisys on record labels, such as warp, raster noton, srry about my english

[@cassl7001]

Hi wuso I love your videos they make me very happy

[@teddyfurstman1997]

I'm so glad for this guy got to work with The Weeknd. This guy is so talented as an Vaperwave artist.

[@eccodroid]

amazing video 👏👏

[@cornejo7934]

Love this. You’ve taught me a lot today!

[@Greg-df4bx]

Lovely video.

[@miisher]

Excellent video brother. Informative & to the point.

[@not.spir0s]

He actually gets a shit ton wrong here. Like alot.

[@HondoR13]

@@not.spir0s can you point out some errors? I'm curious to know.

[@AngryNacho9000]

Good stuff man! Hope to see you get some more recognition soon

[@nycReaching]

great video, looking forward to more

[@starkillerdude1914]

In my mind Games- Everything is working and Ford & Lopatin- World of Regret is some of his best work

[@prismer]

Really enjoyed this. Even though nearly all of this is information that I already knew, you did a wonderful job explaining from your perspective why Dans music speaks to you and to others. Great work and can’t wait to see further probes on other vaporwave artists (and honestly just your takes on music at large).

[@prismer]

Also, lol, it just now clicked for me that you’re Wuso. Love the tunes, man. Can’t wait for whatever’s next!

[@saifbakri2003]

Wow nice video dude I am a big fan of Oneohtrix point never aka Daniel lopatin. He is truly The Godfather of vaporwave. I have a question though is mostly all of his music considered vaporwave? since you know hypnogogic pop is basically vaporwave. I am pretty sure it’s vaporwave ??

[@mothsinthecanyon]

This is spot on, but I think you should have focused less on the superficial details of the music and said more about the plot undercurrent running through the albums, i.e. post-nuclear apocalyptic technological singularity and A.I. inevitably experiencing an echo of psychedelic enlightenment before collapsing into disarray, as we had before, into the fold of time's unseeing infinite cycle. great editing though.

[@0rganfarmer]

OPN and the Caretaker are two of the better artists to deal with memory disintegration.

[@SlyHikari03]

I wanna meet Danny one day. He sounds like a pretty chill guy.

[@replicaacliper]

Whats the song in the background at 8:37? I've definitely listened to it multiple times before, but i can't put my finger on it Edit: It's "Payphone" by Eyeliner

[@herzeliedstein573]

Chopped and Screwed, Houston, 90s You missed it by a mile mate

[@mrfrosty3]

I was surprised to find that vaporwave is very popular with more mature people well over 45+. Perhaps the nostalgic element has greater appeal.

[@TheDominicProject]

New track out btw it's ahem, relevant Replica is the album I first heard, fell in love, devoured everything. Just about my favourite living musician lol

[@zacharydetrick7428]

such a cool video!

[@sebdot_]

thanks man!

[@MoustiluigiRandom]

Toujours excellent.

[@ICF419]

dreamcast summer songs. listen to it. thats the first vaporwave album

[@Michael-ld2np]

great video

[@WHYZMAN_]

Quality content my friend you get a sub

[@TheJfluffy]

Check out James Ferraro! He made a contribution to the Vaporwave genre with Far Side Virtual

[@Nepidemicofmannequins]

🕶️

[@noiselessfox7618]

nice video mate! well done.

[@helvetic]

Replica... Interesting choice of font ;)

[@sebdot_]

Good eye!

[@seamusrw]

We would have to totally ignore the Skaters and James Ferraro and his influence on Lopatin. Please check out all the Skaters side projects because that duo were responsible for vaporwave.

[@seamusrw]

Ferraro's Discovery and Last American Hero came out in 2008! All the New Age Tapes came out way before that. Love the research just wanted to share some music because I got to experience it.

[@seamusrw]

www.discogs.com/artist/502318-James-Ferraro

[@not.spir0s]

@@seamusrw yesss you know it!!! This guy did so little research when making this. It feels like he read a few wiki articles and then threw together a pretty video and called it a day.

[@seamusrw]

I forgot to mention spencer clark.

[@eveningstar7048]

Good stuff this

[@Frying1Pans]

if you're reading this please listen to the memory vague comp by oneohtrix its so fucking good and it contains some of his vaporwave work

[@sirbond400]

ECCOJAMS!!!!!

[@snoopdoggdankkush9285]

what song are u playing in the background at 8:19

[@snoopdoggdankkush9285]

ik I've heard this before

[@JL-uq6qe]

Ayyy a dude who likes Melee and actually interesting shit yerrr

[@sebdot_]

MELEE MELEE *TEAM BEER* I MEAN MELEE MELEE MELEE MELEE

[@peezyy3]

Early Oneohtrix Point Never is proof that anything can be an album. like wtf even was that? lol Its funny how art can be appreciated and interpreted in so many different ways. As an artist/producer idk why I limit myself sometimes. like who cares what it sounds like? Just make noise!

[@beelbrother1648]

DJ Screw

[@grimooze8365]

the disintegration loops

[@concert_music]

Does any one know the song that plays at 2:11?

[@emiliohc6914]

Schlagenheim by black midi

[@SPVLaboratories]

Holy shit Danny is so skinny in that clip in 1:31

[@lastname2139]

you completely skip over garden of delete, age of, and magic

[@white7076]

Then he left vaporwave

[@Virolaxion]

Wait until Vaporwave fans listen to Burial

[@aerokrauts64]

Huge drO)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))nes. Dude.

[@user-dr4ij8ov9b]

gosh man his surname is russian and schould be pronounced as lopAtin. it was like a ax cracking my skull each time you said lOpatin

[@sebdot_]

Gimme a French name I'll say it, gimme a Russian name, eh.

[@billypilgrim1]

What's the name of the song at 0:51

[@itsmesnacks]

angel/a2 from chuck person's eccojams

[@billypilgrim1]

@@itsmesnacks Thanks!!

[@TheDrudgenator]

Coven is the origin of metal not Black Sabbath . But great video otherwise =)

[@raymondbragin8351]

Love hearing about opn, would be very interesting if you did a video on jpegmafia, I feel like a lot of stuff I see about him doesn’t go too deep into what he’s been doing especially not before veteran came out

[@carlofine3037]

Great video