The Godfather Part II - Deleted Scene - Francesca, Gardner Shaw, and Santino Jr.

This is a deleted scene from The Godfather Part II sourced from The Godfather Trilogy 1901-1980. It takes place between the scene of Pentangeli complaining to Fredo about waiting for a meeting and another deleted scene about finding Fabrizio in America, which is followed by Pentangeli and the orchestra (love that scene.) This scene shows Sonny Corleone's daughter, Francesca, and her fiance Gardner Shaw being introduced to Michael by Sonny's widow Sandra. This scene, minus the Santino Jr. bit, was included on the 1992 VHS release "The Godfather Trilogy 1901-1980." I'm sorry for the sudden drop in quality, but that clip with Michael asking Santino Jr. about football only aired as part of The Godfather: The Complete Novel for Television in 1977 on NBC. It was not even included in the 2012 rebroadcast on AMC in HD, known as "The Godfather: A Novel for Television." Thankfully, someone recorded it on Betamax, and people got in touch with people, yada yada yada, it's in a torrent file of someone's fanedit now. I'm actually seeding it at focushdtv.info/files/details/2...
Please enjoy, that Santino Jr. clip is exceedingly rare! The CC may be wrong during this bit, as I can't tell if Michael is saying "How's the football?" or "How's the book going?". Obviously there is no way to officially tell, since CC barely existed in 1977, which was the only time the footage was seen, and the recording certainly did not have them. Also, this scene is cut by a few seconds at the very end when Kay is hugging Francesca. You can see these few seconds in my video of The Godfather Saga Part III Closing Montage and Credits, because that's where that episode ends.

[@TheDCGuitar13]

“This contempt for money is just another trick by the rich to keep the poor without it.” How the hell did this scene not make the cut?

[@muscleman3478]

maybe told one to many secrets about the hollyweird elite.

[@MaccaveliPL]

@@muscleman3478 xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[@gibberconfirm166]

It is a pretty good line.

[@khriss867]

While I agree with the meaning behind what he says, it came off as very preachy. I am so used to Michael Corleone being very subtle, that this came off as too direct or plain-spoken. While we could have moments like this behind the scenes, it does not match what we see of him dealing with in "the family business". I guess based on your outlook it could be either jarring, which is my view, or something that gives more depth to Michael. Edit: I am basing this off of the movies which I have seen and not the books.

[@shannonlucas2980]

Probably seemed redundant with Connie and Merle also telling Mike about their plans to marry.

[@TWS-pd5dc]

This scene was cut because according to Coppola, he wanted to contrast Michael's persona in dealing with people on a special day (his son's communion) with Don Vito Corleone's persona in the Godfather (Vito's daughters wedding). If you recall, Enzo the baker's son, Bonasera, Johnny Fontane all come to Vito with respect and are begging him for help, which he provides them. Michael, on the other hand, has contentious meetings with Connie, Frankie and the senator. He wanted to show that Michael lacked the warmth that his father had. This scene would not have advanced that narrative, so he decided to cut it.

[@roxas3124]

But it's still canon.

[@jackkitchen737]

Good explanation. I think he made a mistake in doing so. But on the fly, his reasoning could be justified.

[@vinnyrussomanno5357]

I see both sides mike had a soft side right there

[@JoeSmith-dl9ok]

I don’t really think the scene that WAS left in helps advance that idea either-Connie was a $ hungry whore, the senator the same thing, only w a healthy dose of hatred for Italians thrown in, and Frankie was drunk and being disrespectful to the head of the family. None of those meetings were Michael’s fault

[@Vmac1394]

​@@JoeSmith-dl9okVito was scary enough that his psycho hitman was nervous to talk to him and Vito wouldn't have agreed to see people on business dealings on an important day like that. Vito also gets irritated in the parallel scene because the undertaker offers him money instead of friendship and favors. This scene still works imo because his Michael brings money into the conversation unprompted first with the line about how the fiancé will provide for the girl, twice when the fiancé is bashful about discussing money, then when Mike says the dowry needs to be big to let the guy's family know that he has money.

[@redtrek1239]

I like how Fredo is pushed out of the room. It’s “a family matter” and doesn’t involve him. For Fredo, it’s another reminder that he got passed over for his younger brother. Brilliant scene.

[@kensellers4082]

Poor Fredo was a second wheel in the Corleone family, much like how Jerry Hefner (brother of Hugh) was a second wheel in the Hefner family.

[@joe6096]

If Fredo had just tagged along for the ride, not gotten involved in anything to try to prove he's "smart, not dumb like everybody says", and just lived carefree, he'd have never been whacked. It's like, dude, your family is filthy rich. Just shut the F up and go along with it. Everything you'll ever want or need for your entire life will be provided for you and you don't have to ever worry about anything. But no. He just had to show Mike how smart he really is.

[@joetamburello6292]

Calm down Joe

[@joemckim1183]

@@joe6096Pretty much this. They put Fredo in charge of things like casinos. Most people would feel lucky being in charge of something as lucrative as that. But since he's the only one out of his father and 2 brothers to be the Don, he'feels jealous.

[@deerlodgeco]

That's an excellent observation and I whole-heartedly agree. That single moment alone might have qualified this scene to stay in the final cut. The comment to Fredo about 'it's a family matter [and you aren't included]' really does say how Fredo is perceived by everybody. Very subtle, yet very powerful.

[@evilwillhunting]

I understand why they cut it, because it wasn't important to the main story. However, it does show some juxtaposition with Merle. Gardner is respectful, financially secure, and it is implied he will be a good husband. Merle acts openly disrespectful, he's broke, and it's obvious he just wants to leech off Connie.

[@brinsonharris9816]

Hey uh, can I get a drink or somethin’? That Merle was a class act all the way. Loved how Mike told Connie “I want you to tell him that marriage is out of the question, and that you don’t want to see him anymore. He’ll understand, believe me.” And Merle just sits there. I also thought this scene parallels Mike asking Sr. Vitelli if he can meet Appolonia under his family’s supervision. Respect goes a long way with Mike.

[@rasoto83]

1st he Demands a Drink then straight up tells Michael “We’re getting Married 1st!” No Fucken Respect at all

[@michaeltabor9596]

@@brinsonharris9816 do not have major respect for the Don huge no no

[@adilhusain9301]

Well, if you've read the book gardener shaw cheats on her. So, frencesca being sonnie's daughter, she runs him over with a car then tom and michael cover up the incident.

[@Deere55]

@@adilhusain9301 That book was written much later. It's entertaining but it doesn't really have anything to do with this film.

[@PhilipWing]

Fredo came in to tell Michael that 2 cocktail waitresses had just arrived and that he was going to- well, you know the rest.

[@lewisc215]

childish

[@jonnysupreme]

@@lewisc215 I agree, what an embarrassing unfunny comment 🤣

[@playbackproductions1]

Don't worry, I'll straighten him out

[@alexpzz2551]

Players couldn't get a drink at the table

[@MobHeataEnt]

@@lewisc215 Gambino

[@johnaddeo2251]

That must’ve been the cute little girl who said, “Mommy, daddy’s fighting again” in the dining room flashback scene at the end of GF I.

[@irvancrocs1753]

Yeah that's probably true, but sorry that was the ending in GF II

[@johnaddeo2251]

@@irvancrocs1753 Right kid, wrong movie.

[@irvancrocs1753]

@@johnaddeo2251 ?

[@johnaddeo2251]

@@irvancrocs1753 I was agreeing with you, I said GF I, you were right, it was GF II. Now go home and get your fucking shine box!

[@irvancrocs1753]

@@johnaddeo2251 No more shining shoes billy, maybe you don't hear it because you were far away..

[@angelacarleton9575]

I love how Michael looked after "Sonny's children" it's so important that he provide financial support to all his family members. This is the "major point" why he was in the family business. So when people question "why" stay in - what else would he be doing? Not always a simple answer to walk away.

[@tintocherian7715]

I wish these scenes were included in the final cut of the movie...it wud have given more color to Michael's motivations behind why he did what he did...especially in Godfather 2, because Michael's relationships with his family was not explored as in depth as it was in part 1, it often felt like he didn't care about them but we know that was not true at all

[@czwarty7878]

@@tintocherian7715 exactly. This scene really adds to movie, showing both his warm family man side and role as strong head of family. He's obviously happy to see Francesca is doing well, but at the same time he's probing her man strongly - he remains cool-headed. He also reminds his people about dowry, not trusting her fiancee entirely, always being a step ahead to remind everyone who he and his family is. The ending of scene, where it's shown how excited Francesca is to tell everyone that Michael gave them blessing also further strengthens it - his opinion is final and very important for entire family, in both business and personal matters. And she was visibly very anxious about all this in the beggining. And of course the Fredo scene. It's really a powerful moment - he is shown being excluded from family matters... which also plays important part and adds to the plot. There's just so much happening in this scene, I just love it.

[@kensellers4082]

Michael, although obviously brilliant, never exuded the personal warmth his father always displayed in dealing with other people. Michael could be stolid, even almost too cool, in his interactions with both friends and business associates. That may be why he’s seen sitting by himself at the end of both Godfather II and the rather disappointing Godfather III.

[@triemcallister]

Michael stayed because the criminal underworld wouldn't let him out. He has spoken on that throughout the movie. Michael wanted to go legit. He didn't stick around in the "family business" just to take care of his brother's kids.

[@ingleringlet-snipps3rd449]

"Oh, you're rich? Marriage is approved!"

[@bigfactsbroski]

thought michael was asian for a second there!

[@ingleringlet-snipps3rd449]

@@bigfactsbroski 😅😄

[@madarasoun3018]

@@bigfactsbroski Fuk, you're right.

[@jareknazwisko7752]

This movie tells about family Life than most if not all films About family life

[@ingleringlet-snipps3rd449]

@@jareknazwisko7752 I agree!

[@srb9]

OK ... and Gardner Shaw enrolled in a Business Administration course in record time.

[@kensellers4082]

Gardner probably also immediately signed up for Stanley Kaplan’s prep course for the GMAT examination, so that Michael Corleone’s future in-law could get accepted into a top MBA program.

[@srb9]

@@kensellers4082 agreed, no doubt.

[@walterlv01]

I actually agree with them deleting this one - the tone doesn't fit with the rest of the film. But there is one aspect that I do find interesting. The young man (Gardner) is the only visitor in this opening sequence who treats Michael with the kind of respect that Vito used to get. Consequently he gets by far the friendliest reception.

[@AsifAli-oh7zg]

Cant help but notice Fransesca and Gardners relationship is introduced to Michael in this scene BUT in the last bit Michael says that make the dowry big coz the guy comes from a family who thinks italian brides come barefooted. It could be concluded that Michael had already done the background check on Gardner but instead let others think that it was a news for him. Thats why he is the Godfather, he is always ten steps ahead of others!

[@ronniebishop2496]

It’s just his own idea of how prejudice people were toward Italians.

[@jlyngdoh5608]

Wow.. Italians do dowry too?? Never knew that.. Is it cultural or only applies to certain higher social classes.. Would love some source material.. If available

[@vikramparmar8093]

@@ronniebishop2496 correct.

[@ronniebishop2496]

j lyngdoh There are no specific group, though the Irish were very much the ones that dowry was a very important part of a brides attractiveness! But lots of groups had some kind of dowry. Some still arrange marriages. My first wife’s mother had actually arranged our marriage and I didn’t even notice. She came from a very wealthy family from Texas.

[@stevenhancock2822]

Apollonia wore shoes at her wedding, but you can tell she had never walked in heels before their first date.

[@lordcanmore87]

Michael: how do you plan to support your new wife with fine arts? Gardner: im a major stockholder in my family's corporation. Michael: of course, i give you my blessing. 😁

[@gastonbell108]

Francesca: :-D "See? I bagged me a rich one!"

[@ricflair9717]

Also Michael: You wealthy family can help my businesses launder money so I can transition to legitimate business.

[@vikramparmar8093]

Actually his reply was : "well. What can I say to that" Implying: you did not allow me to have a good reason to say no.

[@kargs5krun]

@@vikramparmar8093 So in essence, he "gave [Michael] an offer he couldn't refuse!" $$$$$$

[@jeanpaulsinatra]

TFW the most powerful crimelord in America doesn't realise the art market is one of the most shady, corrupt businesses there is. Unless the shady shit started after the film was set, idk

[@michaelmcintosh4167]

Fredo walks in they kick him out says it's a family matter...hahaaaaha

[@effortlessawareness8778]

Never name your son Fredo frodo or fred. They never amount to anything.

[@josephkeres4604]

Lol

[@burberries5844]

@@effortlessawareness8778 it’s the middle child complex don’t hate fredo, he just wasn’t needed. Sonny was big boss, Micheal was the future of the family. Fredo was nothing because there was never any plans for him. Wether the family realizes or not this scene shows why fredo betrayed micheal. It’s a family matter then kicks him out, it subtle but fredo a whole life was in the shadows but he still was the most out going guy sad dynamics but usually what middle children are like scales they try to weigh in on their siblings taking the worst from each. Micheal doesn’t talk fredo does sonny is aggressive fredo is outgoing and friendly can make a friend anywhere. Fredo was loved so much because he was so innocent, he didn’t want to be boss, he didn’t want to outshine micheal, but was content being part of the family, idk why they blame Fredo, when obviously the family invested more in others I guess people make choices but

[@effortlessawareness8778]

@@burberries5844 Fredo? Is that You? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@jlyngdoh5608]

@@effortlessawareness8778 nice one man

[@FatherofMan25]

"Uncle Michael is the most wonderful man ever!"

[@DonRamiro1]

Said the heads of the five families...

[@stephenlee9431]

Katy: -..-

[@user-jv2tw1no8x]

@@DonRamiro1 Forget about it! As did the heads of the 5 families

[@TylerD288]

Then Kay had to ruin it!

[@twoshady518]

when you've seen so many deleted scenes you feel short changed watching the actual movie

[@unclephillymya]

This scene was deleted because Michael smiled 😂

[@nikolai9278]

"Mommy, Daddy's fighting again. Hahaha"

[@crapshot]

Omg man 😭😭😭 greatest movie ever for a reason.

[@vka337]

"Uncle Michael, mama"..!!!

[@jehadnasereddin7755]

I don't get why you guys despise this scene. It's absolutely brilliant, forget Francesca and Shaw. The way Michael carried himself in this scene, knowing exactly when to be monotonous and when to raise his pitch, he's intimidating him and HE KNOWS IT, that's why he breaks into a fake laugh every other sentence, not to ease the situation, because he just knows it's making Shaw more pressured. It's a very brilliant scene showing Michael Corleone's "interrogation" skills if you may.

[@BadgerBJJ]

Jehad Nasereddin also shows how Fredo is dismissed. A non-family member pushes him out and says “it’s family business.”

[@vikramparmar8093]

of course....he wanted to be on the "safe side"

[@angelacarleton9575]

Jedah - are you kidding me? I love this scene and as I mentioned this gives the reason why he was in the family business to take care of everyone, not just his own children but he had a responsibility for Sonny's family too besides his mother and siblings. I can't stress enough the pressure Michael had on his shoulder to maintain the stability of the family. I know what that's about.

[@richard4599]

Coppola said: "because Michael was smiling too much in it. Not the tone we wanted to set in the first third of the film."

[@wjatube]

The 'brilliance' you perceive would be lost on most of the audience who instead would see a very jovial, light-hearted and sentimental Michael which is the last thing that Coppola wanted as the focus of GF2. Instead he wanted a troubled, isolated and lonely Michael as the Don.

[@mmcneil777]

He sensed Gardner was a good, responsible guy. He actually gave them some softball questions. It reminded him of that legitimate life he once wanted. Gardner was probably always going to be on Michael’s good side.

[@andrewcharley1893]

As far as I’m concerned there should be no deleted scenes from the godfather !!!!! The first two movies were a magnificent work of art.👍🏾

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

Michael was very honorable to the man, and respected his good nature of asking permission first. The man also downplays his wealth but mentions his passion (fine arts). Michael admires that he isn't a parasite and even respects that he didn't try to score points bringing up his family weather right away. Even deleted scenes of these 2 films are epic.

[@NtoTheM]

I hate to ruin that for you, cause he definetly looked down on the "fine arts" part. That's why he only got enthusiastic when the guy's wealth was revealed. That's why after he advises him to look into other more serious fields after. He's just being very subtle about it.

[@donarthiazi2443]

He never brought up the subject of _weather_ with Michael at all 🧏‍♂️

[@BonnChnd]

How do you plan to support your wife with Fine Arts? That’s a cool, razor sharp, vicious line that shows how Michael controlled this conversation, interrogation and finally giving his approval. He spoke so much with very few words.

[@alightthatnevergoesout]

Al Pacino, aka Michael Corleone, has the most beautiful smile at the end of his handshake

[@homesteadglamourlifestyle]

“ He comes from a family that thinks Italian brides go barefoot” In one sentence we find out that Michael has the rundown on this guy’s whole history and probably began investigating him the first time he smiled at his niece lol.

[@Deere55]

Or he is just generalizing what he thinks rich WASP families think about Italians.

[@johnaddeo2251]

I wonder if Sonny would’ve approved of Gardner. Probably not. Could you just hear him, “Fine Arts, what are you, some kind of fanocche?” “No daughter of mine is going to marry a waspy fanocche!”

[@kensellers4082]

That sounds like something comedian Pat (Caputo) Cooper might also say.

[@johnaddeo2251]

@@kensellers4082 - Cooper would’ve said, “if you attack my dignity, I’ll tro you out da winda!”

[@kensellers4082]

@@johnaddeo2251 John, I saw Pat Cooper perform at the Count Basie Theater in Red Bank, NJ a few years ago. Pat had the audience roaring with laughter as he cited all the “struggles” of the aging process, such as the indignity of having to have a prostate examination, undergoing a colonoscopy, frequent trips to the bathroom throughout the night, etc. Pat really had everyone laughing as he related how he asked his wife, which way she wanted him to face in his coffin, looking to the left or to the right.

[@johnaddeo2251]

​@@kensellers4082 - I’ve always loved Pat, it’s amazing that he never really hit the “A” List during his nearly 60 years in show business. He’s always marched to his own beat and actually rubbed many of the “star makers” the wrong way over the years. Ol’ Pasquale would tell you he didnt give a crap about who did and didn’t like him in the business, but I’m sure he’d have done it a little differently, If he had it to do all over again.

[@kensellers4082]

@@johnaddeo2251 John, Remember how Pat would frequently be on the radio with Howard Stern? Then, Howard got this show on the E-Channel called “One on One with Howard Stern,” in which Howard would interview celebrities like Chuck Norris, Sylvester Stallone, etc. Well, apparently, Pat took great offense that Howard did NOT invite him on the show; Pat thought that Howard didn’t feel that Pat was big enough to be “one-on-one” with the King of all Media. Oh, let me tell you, the video of Gary Della’Barte and Jackie “The Joke Man” Martling trying vainly to calm Pat down and assure him that Howard really loved him is timeless! Pat issued more F-bombs at Howard, Gary, Jackie, etc., than Al Pacino did in the remake of “Scarface.” If you watch “Talking Sopranos” here on You Tube, you know that Steve Schrippa (sp?), “Bobby Baccala,” does NOT like Pat Cooper or Robert DeNiro. Steve says that Pat is a bad actor, was nasty in person and was never hired by David Chase to be on “The Sopranos,” like Nancy Sinatra and Frank Sinatra, Jr. were. Pat used to fill-in occasionally as a guest host on WABC Radio in New York City. Pat would take no prisoners as he opined on Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Steve Lawrence and Edie Gorme, Cheryl Ladd from “Charlie’s Angels,” etc. Yes, I agree with you, Pat has definitely marched to the beat of his own drum during his long career. He truly is an American comedic treasure.

[@ernestleong476]

He majored in Fine Arts. I majored in English, only I didn't invest in the family corporation. So sign me up for that Business Administration too.

[@angelacarleton9575]

Certainly, you can do more despite you majored in English. Nothing is impossible!

[@KNSKelster]

Definitely a great scene from a plot-building perspective and shows how Sonny’s death likely saved his own family but also doomed Michael. Seeing how he pushed Fredo out of the meeting, its no surprise that Fredo felt he had to prove himself. And to imagine Kay’s thoughts when Francesca says Michael is the most wonderful man in the world when she knows the truth about him

[@BadgerBJJ]

This scene shows the disrespect he holds Fredo. They push him out and say, “it’s family business.”

[@angelacarleton9575]

I don't think so - Fredo was not apt to be sensible so they mentioned the truth to him so he wouldn't butt in. Remember he already had objected to Moe Green when Michael was doing business and never really accepted him as the new "Don." That is why he tried to do business with Michael's enemies not realizing the consequences of his actions. He was dumb!

[@jogman262]

"I'm not dumb, like everyone says. I'm SMART, and I want RESPECT!!!"

[@minhajnizam5090]

@@jogman262 you're my kid brother and you take care of me? I was stepped over

[@spydirty2530]

It all started with the pneumonia

[@kayraro1933]

1:49 "This contempt for money is just another trick of the rich to keep the poor without it." How true. Who would not wish prosperity for their children?

[@DiaDeLaDead]

This line holds so much truth today.

[@RajaPamungkas87]

Hi, sorry i am from Indonesia, i dont quite understand with the meaning of "This contempt for money is just another trick of the rich to keep the poor without it." Did Michael just being sarcastic or he insulting Gardner? why he said that?

[@aliensoup2420]

Witness the billionaire tech CEO's and Hollywood elite supporting the Leftist Democrats and socialist dictators.

[@nigeljansen1996]

@@RajaPamungkas87 main idea behind the line is that flaunting your money or wealth is often considered bragging and thus undesirable. So what Michael is saying here is that this idea of people talking about their wealth openly being inappropriate, is just a trick to make the poor believe wealth is a kind of dirty thing, making them less eager to chase after big wealth themselves. So this contempt of money (aka openly stating your financial status) is just a trick to keep the poor without it (it regering to money / wealth)

[@RajaPamungkas87]

@@nigeljansen1996 ah now i know

[@toddpick8007]

I really love this scene, it shows Michaels love for his family

[@jackprescott9652]

When Michael says "My brother Sonny died years ago" we see a shot of Sandras´face and then a shot of Tom´s face. That´s because Tom and Sandra are lovers and Michael is not happy about it. That´s why Michael treats Tom with some sort of contempt troughout the whole film.

[@effortlessawareness8778]

Sonny’s wife Sandra: 😍

[@rasoto83]

RIP Julie Gregg 1937 - 2016

[@humbertoflores2545]

She was not his wife.. was his widow.

[@jogman262]

I thought Fredo’s wife was hotter. Clint Eastwood got a hold of her in ‘High Plains Drifter’.

[@DonRamiro1]

@@jogman262 No question about it. They were both beautiful but Marianna Hill was the hotter of the two and the most beautiful woman to appear in the entire trilogy.

[@TylerD288]

And the two daughters! _Mama Mia!_

[@rogernevez5187]

1:46 *This contempt for the money is just another trick from the rich to keep the poor without it.* THIS SCENE SHOULD NOT BE DELETED !!!! THE MOVIE WOULD BE EVEN BETTER WITH IT !!!!!!!!!!!! +1

[@dondajulah4168]

Ralph Ciafretto used that same line in The Sopranos.

[@christiansoldier77]

Roger Nevez The problem with that line is that he isnt poor

[@someorclad9738]

@@christiansoldier77 Yes he isn't, but it seems that the young guy was needlessly humble about his financial status, thus having that line would be impactful, and much needed. Just be chill and proud with your richness. No need for arrogance, or in this case, misplaced modesty that gave the wrong impression to a guy that holds decisiveness and respect in high regard (Being meek would show that he may not be tough enough to protect his wife's honour). Had the guy told Michael he was a stockholder but in a more reasoned, confident tone, then that line would've been meaningless, and Michael would've liked him a lot more. Well maybe not like, but he definitely would have a more favorable opinion on him.

[@BruteStrength99]

@@dondajulah4168 the Sopranos love stealing Godfather lines

[@Jay-eq9gb]

Wish this would have stayed. It was always cool seeing examples of Sonny's fierce love for his brothers and how that was reciprocated, despite their differences. Michaels love for Sonny carrying over to his children really shows here and it would have been one of the very, very few times where he doesn't come across as incredibly cold. I don't think the intent of his portrayal in this chapter would have been damaged by this scene for that reason, as it can still be construed as in character despite how far he's otherwise fallen into darkness.

[@Tresdad09]

0:52 poor Freddie lol, notice Mike's annoyance.

[@samsoncrosswood7259]

Uncle Michael, the charmer.

[@Zoologic21]

I love this, the intro parodies the stone cold open of the first, mirroring the imagery, or lack thereof of the Don's face. I also like to think they alluded to the children who interrupted Luca's "honored and grateful" speech. The actor who played Fredo did a tremendous job and you can really see how marginalized he was almost as if he really was just as aimless as two kids running into a conversation.

[@jamesrivera4947]

It's difficult enough for a comedian to avoid laughing during a take. For dramatic scenes, it must have been 10 times as hard. That's what makes Pacino's first two performances so incredible 🎭

[@triemcallister]

"Make sure her dowry is big. He'll come into the family and think Italian brides go barefoot". I love it! Mike said that dude is not about to treat his niece like the stereotypical Italian wife who stays barefoot and pregnant.

[@samanthab1923]

I never noticed Santino Jr. in the scene.

[@felicity4711]

This scene is a nice contrast to how he reacted to Connie and Merle wanting to get married

[@tintocherian7715]

I wish these scenes were included in the final cut of the movie...it wud have given more color to Michael's motivations behind why he did what he did...especially in Godfather 2, because Michael's relationships with his family was not explored as in depth as it was in part 1, it often felt like he didn't care about them but we know that was not true at all

[@ronniebishop2496]

I’ve seen most and only a few like this are pretty good

[@MontagZoso]

Wow, never seen this before! Thank you!

[@nicky29031977]

It's a pity Santino Jr. wasn't elaborated more upon ...maybe he would have been more interesting than Vincent Mancini in GF3!

[@mrxxx2599]

nicky29031977 No the way he acts obviously he has no sonny in him, but vincent is sonny mix michael

[@angelacarleton9575]

You're probably right. I would have like to learn more about Sonny's son.

[@lancehood7916]

He asked him how football was going..... obviously he was on a different path.

[@objectivelycorrect8338]

@@mrxxx2599 he cracked the skull of a boy In school because he called him a name . He's Sonny's son no doubt , but he was kept away from the family business because of what happened to Sonny . He became a dentist eventually.

[@minhajnizam5090]

@@objectivelycorrect8338 how do you know that?

[@thetattooman123]

they should have kept this scene in for these reasons. 1: it showed how cool, un-emotional Michael was. being careful not to show the slightest trace of emotion. and, it showed how weak and incompetent fredo was. which is why he was so easily manipulated into helping roth.

[@Xehanort10]

I'm surprised finding out his fiancee's uncle was Michael Corleone didn't make Gardner shit himself in fear then and there. It's bad enough when people get the "If you hurt her" speech from normal relatives. It'd be even scarier if he got it from Michael.

[@itjustlookslikethis]

Yeah, it's kinda like "if you hurt my niece Francesca, Al Neri will take you fishing"

[@JeffTheHokie]

Part of the code, at least in the book was "never utter a threat". It made Vito more feared, because if you screw him over you're still dead, but you never get a warning. Gardner would never get that speech, but he would still get the Al Neri treatment if need be.

[@Xehanort10]

@@itjustlookslikethis "You'll be sleeping with the fishes like Luca Brasi."

[@kensellers4082]

I think Connie Corleone’s newest boyfriend may have also gone on a one-way fishing trip with Al Neri.

[@lavs_you9910]

Between 2:43 to 2:45, does anybody notice Kay feels shocked for a minuscule of second to hear appreciation about Michael? Or is it just my illusion?

[@LarsVision]

Yes. Kays reactions are based on her feelings that Mike behaves in a condescending manner toward her. Mike treats her the way he would treat any Italian woman that he cares about, ...with protective authority. But she's not Italian, to which we are frequently reminded about every time Mike says..."this is my family, Kay". Kay doesn't get him, but his niece does.

[@angelacarleton9575]

Remember - she doesn't see the family the way Italians do - they are united as a front and being the Godfather puts a lot of pressure on Michael to do for the entire family network. She is thinking like an American - father and mother or sisters - are an afterthought- sorry but it is true. I've lived with an American - when his mother sent him a $5.00 which she didn't have much to give - I asked him to write a letter to her now instead he said he'll write after Christmas? Guess what - his brother called after the first week in January to tell him his mother passed away. He never listened to what I said to give her a simple note and pictures to thank her for her kindness. This may not be all AMERICANS but there are MANY that think like that!

[@wvcricker5683]

Angela Carleton I’m not Italian, at least I don’t think so.. I’m a typical Heinz 57 American.. but I agree with you... I even taught my boys when they were little to ALWAYS write thank you notes whenever they got a gift.. it’s enough that the person even thought of you...

[@frostylunetta]

Aunt Kay 😘

[@el34glo59]

@@LarsVision Protective authority? Lol

[@lourdesveiramercado2665]

This was such a good scene! Sad that they had to cut this out.

[@jceepf]

Good scene. Most directors often say that good scenes get cut off.....

[@angelacarleton9575]

It ties in everything in what Michael is up against coping with possible in-laws that are not suited. He didn't want another "Carlo" in the family that didn't have his own money which would be a target against him in the family.

[@music4dages]

Actually, in some theatrical releases this scene was left in. I recall seeing this and remembering how Michael asked the young man how he intended to support his wife as a fine arts major. His answer and Michael's reaction showed that Michael did have a softer, more reasonable side to him. Frankly, the way movies get chopped up with scene deletions it's all to make the studios happy so that they can have more showings of the film per day. It's just like how the old AM radio used to play the shorter versions of songs. Think of The Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again" the way the AM stations first played it and then how the FM stations played the longer version.

[@kensellers4082]

Yes, I think AM stations also did that with The Doors’ “Light My Fire” and Chicago’s “Beginnings.”

[@bobstevens3265]

Guess we did get fooled again, and again..

[@sm112]

Neri to Fredo: "family matters" Fredo was right in a way. Older brother but was to be felt like an outsider

[@Armando_Lara]

he wasn't smart enough to handle certain things

[@sm112]

@@Armando_Lara I agree but could have been made to feel more of a family member than an outsider still I mean here is a perfect example. Nothing relatsd with business...it is just talk about marriage but he was still told to leave.

[@paulnicolosi4792]

Two of my old musician friends from Reno, were in the band that played for the party in this scene. They also played for Frank, Dean and Sammy back in the day. Sadly, they’ve long since passed...Great stories.

[@kensellers4082]

That was very funny when Frank Pentangelli attempted to get the band to play an Italian song and they ended up playing “Pop Goes the Weasel,” much to Frank’s great disgust.

[@paulnicolosi4792]

@@kensellers4082 Michael Gazzo, who played ‘Frankie Five Angles’ was a good friend of one of my Father’s actor friends. ‘Mario Gallo’ Back in the late 70’s, I played music at the wedding of Mario’s Daughter and Frank was a guest. He sat at my table during the reception and was amazingly funny. That gravel voice of his was unmistakable. He was quite a character…

[@kensellers4082]

@@paulnicolosi4792 Yes, In addition to being a fine actor, Mr. Gazzo, a Hillside, NJ native, was a renowned acting instructor, who taught Debra Winger and Tony Sirico, who went on to great fame as the irrepressible Paulie Walnuts of “The Sopranos.”

[@maxreichert8050]

Make sure the Dowry is big. He comes from a family that thinks Italian brides go barefoot. DAMN

[@lillocosta1777]

After Sonnys death, his family was no longer considered. I think this scene could give space to his family and start elaborating their characters for the chapter 3 especially because the latter was focused on Vincent the bastard.

[@ronniebishop2496]

His family was taken care of and his daughter was like Michaels and his illegitimate son takes over in part 3. Right?

[@Woozler554]

2:15 I've seen this scene ever since they released it when they came out with "The Godfather Saga" in 1977. But I never saw this little clip with Santino Junior until today.

[@HEXhibitionist]

This scene would make the lack of Michael smiling during the majority of the movie even more prominent.

[@craigbaxter6591]

The assassination attempt not only pushed him over the edge but Kay as well with her decision to abort their child so it's understandable why he never smiled again after this point. I've always seen the Godfather films to be more of family stories than gangster flicks.

[@berni9977]

One of the best movies ever made 🧡

[@jameswhalen235]

I actually remember seeing this on a televison version years ago.

[@sirrom5155]

a deleted scene infinitely better than the entire 3rd movie

[@deivid5711]

jajajaaja yes!!!

[@kensellers4082]

George Hamilton replacing Robert Duvall as the family’s attorney/consigliere. Andy Garcia doing his best Vinnie Barbarino impression from “Welcome Back, Kotter.” Yeah, GF3 was a monumentsl disappointment.

[@Lolabelle59]

I could swear I saw this scene in a "complete" version aired on some cable station.

[@garypvamos2508]

Yes. They call it "The Godfather epic" It tells the story in chronological order; It starts with the flash back scenes with Robert De Niro playing young Vito and then goes to The first Godfather on so on. During that, All the scenes that were cut from the stand alone movies were added in.

[@kevolocs]

It was on bravo

[@music4dages]

"Aunt Kay, Uncle Michael is the most wonderful man ever. Aunt Connie, Uncle Michael is the most wonderful man ever." Aunt Connie: "Sure he is. Is that why he had Carlo strangled?"

[@youtoldpeopleawomanhadalds3109]

....

[@saragalliard2532]

I never understand her. That Carlo is the abusive husband. And he was insulted her family. But still, she crying for him? 😑

[@timheidel5849]

Everyone else: "Francesca...he strangled Carlo because he got your daddy slaughtered on the tollway..."

[@overcomerbtbojesus]

@@saragalliard2532yes but in relationships that are abusive over time the victims have stockholm syndrome which is why so many men and women won’t leave abusive relationships

[@nina84374]

2:02 Michael was so sweet to her. Pretty shocked by the fact that its godfather 2 and that Michael is smilling

[@johnsanjuan9364]

Sonny, Junior!!

[@ugaais]

Michael” Dont be embarrassed of your money this contempt for money is a trick of the rich to keep poor people without it”…so true

[@Rockhound6165]

And not for nothing but Shaw, at least then, can become a curator of a fine museum. Having a fine arts degree in the 50's was a lot different than today.

[@David-yw2lv]

Michael showed a great deal of respect letting Francesca & her fiance to speak for themselves.I also like his remark about money.

[@brinsonharris9816]

Gardner Shaw, they call me Chauncey-damned glad to meet ya, Mr.C. Coppala went with another take for the final cut.

[@joelewishenry7886]

Michael is too nice in this. No wonder it was cut.

[@TheJadariusExperience]

I watched this the other day like damn they grew up fast from The Godfather

[@danorthsidemang3834]

Wow, he actually said yes to someone that day

[@thelastjohnwayne]

Great wisdom about money

[@NtoTheM]

That split second of quiet between "...fine arts..." and anything after probably happens every single time someone has to say that to his in-laws to be. ^^ Even more impressive that Michael managed to not draw out that split second noticably, considering in his position he kinda has to keep an eye on only getting involved with influencial or wealthy people, one of which the guy fortunately happened to be.

[@teencred9430]

How is it that the WHOLE MOVIE of Godfather Part 1 was under threat of not getting released but ultimately did, yet this 2 or so minute scene in the sequel gets DELETED...I have no words.

[@Pearlruby718]

In my opinion they really should have left this scene in because it shows another layer to the complexity of Michael's character. 🤷🏼‍♀️🤔

[@paullinford4510]

This scene should have been in for several reasons. It shows that Michael still had a human side (we don't see it much after the death of Appolonia but it's still there) and it also provides a link with characters from GF1 like Sandra and Santino Jr who otherwise seemed to have been written out of the family story.

[@thegadflygang5381]

And a few years later Francesca would pull a Sonny and run over Gardner Shaw several times "by mistake" with her car turning him flatter than a pancake

[@jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj178]

The rare deleted scene that shouldn't have been deleted.

[@Rainman270]

Now I see why it was deleted. Nobody got whacked.

[@briancannon3987]

damn ive watched pretty much all the deleted scenes with the exception of one or two they should of kept them in

[@lwmson]

In regard to your confusion over what Sonny Jr is saying to Michael, I'm quite sure that he said "How's the football (going)?" He looked to be a large, athletic kid so this made more sense.

[@nonstoprocker5377]

How i9s this deleted ?...ive seen this scene in the movie before

[@paxsopranodynasty7555]

Santino's widow was a smoke-show

[@simplehd4050]

That’s right to cut this scene because not much connection with family.

[@stevenallard5284]

Those sisters are in Godfather 3. They're in the group photo in the beginning of the movie

[@kenlarthompson6011]

They was at the party in the beginning of the movie,but can't recall seeing Francesca husband

[@DonRamiro1]

Like a course in Business Admin is going to make any difference. You need to MAJOR IN IT, Uncle MIchael!

[@murderstylist]

That reminded him about his live in Sicily and marriage with Abolonia , the girl look like her ..

[@chriswhitaker329]

It's appolonia. Its a stellar translation

[@winniejohnson5559]

@@chriswhitaker329 I think that read that it’s her daughter (the actress who played apollonia)not apollonia

[@dakingltroyproductofdade3579]

I need this movir with all the deleted parts

[@headphonic8]

Strange how he treats Sonny’s widow

[@jimmykray9583]

How

[@vikramparmar8093]

@@jimmykray9583 I don't think he meant strange in the literal sense. He treated the wife of his deceased brother like his own sister. Very respectful

[@rasoto83]

The way her and Tom made Eye contact when Michael discussed Sonny’s Death

[@sandrahunter5904]

It's cool how Michael comforts himself with a gangsters attitude.

[@LD-wu4lc]

I like how this scene was cut from the movie because this scene is a sort of "grand introduction" to Michael and I always loved how he didn't have a grand intro which contrasted to Vito having one in the first movie

[@smacwhinnie]

Only question is, aside from barefoot, what does Gardner's upper class protestant family think of his bride and her family? I'm sure they read newspapers. It would be as if 30 years ago Victoria Gotti got engaged to a Park Ave scion. Tabloids would have had a field day, to the further chagrin of the groom's family.

[@basilmarasco1975]

True. Wealthy people marry within their circles. In reality, Gardner's family wouldn't have been too happy. Gardner's father probably would not have given *his* blessing.

[@danesovic7585]

Comparing Michael to John Gotti (who had the character of Joey Zaza based on him) seems a bit unfair. At this point Corleone's businesses were largely legitimate and they were definitely not involved in narcotics. Also, even elder Vito Corleone made sure to keep good relationships with politicians.

[@diasalexandros6651]

Scary smile from Michael as he says how do you expect to support your new wife with fine art.

[@CptInsano835]

Imagine having a mentor like Michael as a man in your teenage years.

[@CYP0]

First he approves his niece's engagement and then he disapproves his sister's marriage. Michael has a busy day attending to family business.

[@ross1880]

Was this scene cut? I thought I saw it before, not on KZbin

[@fatalxdecaay2817]

Did anyone else hear the band in the background playing one of the songs that was played at Connie's wedding? I am sure as heck that the song was being played at her wedding.Maybe I got it wrong though. 😂😂

[@fineline8348]

This is not a deleted scene its part of the THE GOD FATHER TRILOGY

[@dakingltroyproductofdade3579]

Damn wish we had like 6 or 7 god father’s all this footage

[@davoz9773]

This scene really shows how Italian Michael has become during his time in Sicily. He was born and raised in America, served and wen to college; he fully experienced the American life. Yet, he’s very aware of how Italians Should act when dealing with Americans and how they’re perceived therefore the “‘make sure her dowry is big...” not only had he become a Sicilian mafioso but he had also become and Italians father. Beautiful but sad.

[@douglaspmatheny]

I can’t find one cut scene from either movie that isn’t brilliant