The Golden Dawn - NEW REVIEW! [Esoteric Book Review]

[@FoolishFishBooks]

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[@QuaesitorDei]

Denis You sent me a message just before I went on a magical retreat earlier this year. I asked about Hellenistic practices and whether I could book a talk with you to get a better idea of were to start etc. I saw the message pop up but thought I'll read that after my retreat but cannot find it. There used to be a KZbin messaging thing but I can't find that either. Could you prompt my memory as to where to find it. My name was Familythreegamers then. Adam

[@FoolishFishBooks]

@@QuaesitorDei foolishfish.simplybook.it/v2/ If you click on the bell icon top right in KZbin, you should see your notifications including any messages sent to you 😊

[@jamesmartin6737]

I have just discovered this channel, yesterday in fact, and I'm head over heels. I absolutely love this channel. You present this work in a intelligent, clear, concise manner, while at the same time you always get across the fact that you love what you do, and that you actually care about this. There are some channels that have books about the occult featured, where the person presenting with their purple hair and tattoos from the lesser key, where it all feels like Hot Topic magick. Like they are more concerned with being edgy than finding knowledge and understanding of the world. I dunno.. Either way, I just wanted to say thank you for approaching this the way that you do, and keep it up!

[@spiralsun1]

Everyone seems to want to look at ancients as having answers but they are like prophets and pioneers of what was to come. It’s just how life works. Everything said in books like this gains it’s power to direct our attention because it says what nature says about god. Yet that remains subconscious for most people and they actually sell themselves out for some lesser power. It’s a zany attempt at laying a kind of yoke onto the boundary of knowledge where the ocean of chaos beats the drum of the sands of time. Monkey god vs the pillars of the hand of the Buddha. It’s good to read these things but keep in mind that knowledge moves forward and growth is where you find life. Where you find real creative power. It’s silent, not full of fireworks, and all-consuming. Unity. Thank you for this review and it is quite interesting. This is timely because the dawn is now.

[@bjlove259]

Well said sister

[@darinsiegle9424]

Knowledge does both can be found in the past or only as one moves forward. But how would you move forward with the best knowledge unless study is done of the past. History does repeat itself. Not literally being exactly the same but you can find patterns and many other things to help you move forward. This I feel is one great big problem we are facing now it's that they stopped teaching history. For the most part. & what is taught isn't true only what they want you to think & reading these old books is about the only way to gain some understanding of it. Why do you think they burn them in revolutions and right now the libraries are closed. So you can't know

[@kylerobison1425]

The author Israel Regardie passed away in the 1980’s. Hardly ancient but I get your point.

[@JiandiP]

Yes, well said indeed. Regardie said himself the intent was not to provide a finished philosophy because the initiates were meant to find truths on their own. I look at these systems as tools or templates that assist seekers in pressing forward into this abstract world.

[@spiralsun1]

@Torus Factory you are very circular in your reasoning. Perhaps the universe is too. Even a singularity spins. 🥰 I definitely listen to music to synchronize the hemispheres.

[@tru3dialect]

You should do some manly p hall books, I would like to see your review of "the secret teachings of all ages".. A greatly thorough book

[@keithsweet8840]

Eric Z Josh Reeves ,,does an good audio reading on his channel ..of some of manly's books ,,the lost book of enki is the best one,.

[@stillkickin9957]

@@keithsweet8840 agreed

[@nietzschesno-things523]

i wanna him to review harry potter, book 3, the chamber of secrets :^)

[@nietzschesno-things523]

shit it would have been funnier and more to the occultist theme if I said Philosopher's Stone. Get it?! Anybody?!?

[@pastorovmuppets]

@@keithsweet8840 The Lost Book of Enki was written by Zecharia Sitchin not Manly P Hall 🤔

[@ronpipes1988]

So, after reading through all of these comments I wanted to point out a couple of things regarding this particular book. There are some really good comments, but there are also some of the most ridiculous comments that I have ever read. The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn taught a system of Spiritual Attainment that is just as extensive as any form of Yoga or Buddhism. The difference being that it's western and is not Buddhism, Yoga, or really anything quite like any other thing in the world. We in the west call our systems of spiritual attainment that follow along these lines Magic(k). Some magical systems do utilize eastern techniques, and the Golden Dawn was no exception, but the point here is that our Western Esoteric systems as taught in the Golden Dawn and other orders are western equivalents to the Eastern methods of doing the same thing. Some people practice various forms of yoga, others Buddhism, others might practice Sufism, etc. The western equivalents to these types of spiritual traditions are what we call our Magical Traditions. The system of the Golden Dawn (and actually it's an offshoot of the Golden Dawn called the Stella Matutina) is outlined and given in the book up to a certain point, and there are many out there that criticize the book and those using it because it only has the basic teachings up to a certain point and no further. The problem with this criticism is that if a person actually achieves that state of Spiritual Progress that corresponds with that grade, then he or she will be guided from within for any further steps and progress. Thus, no further teaching needs to be included in the book itself. There are those that want to proclaim from the mountaintops that there are elements of Satanism in the teachings. Those people have yet to truly understand what Christianity is, where it actually comes from, what it has been responsible for, and how it sought to change and influence the course of history for the betterment of all people, and not just for those calling themselves Christian. Indeed, the Golden Dawn is rooted in Christianity although it doesn't appear to be so at first sight. For those that want to claim that this is a bastardized form of some ancient Kemetic system, those folks need to sit down and study the system before making such claims. The system itself is syncretic in that they took from a great variety of other world traditions, not just Egyptian. In this, however, nothing was "stolen or bastardized" but was made a part of a new system that somehow, and in some manner, accomplishes what it sets out to accomplish, which is spiritual enlightenment. The system is about letting go of the ego and getting in touch with what is the real person, the real you. It is a vast system that can only truly be understood by learning it step by step, and practicing the techniques over time. In that manner a much broader view of the entire scheme of what is going on within the system can be had, and that's when a much better understanding of it all begins to take place. The first thing that one has to begin to learn, however, is that the little ego is not top dog, nor does it have to be. The system as given in the book is not for the lazy and undisciplined person. Indeed, the system is structured and needs to be followed according to the structure as given. There are some exceptions that can be made, but if a person is working from the book, then follow the book and the guidelines for approaching the work given in the introductions of whatever edition you happen to have. This, however, is a major stumbling block to a great many that take up this work. Persistence, perseverance, and discipline are your friends in this regard. The only real obstacle is that there isn't a great deal of teaching on the Kabbalah, but there are a number of good books on the market that can be obtained second hand rather cheaply. Lastly, there are a great many people out there, and here in the comment section, that seem to have google eyes and fairy dust all about them. The Golden Dawn is not about having your head in the clouds, nor is it about everything being unveiled in the faery light of fluff and spice. Quite the contrary! The system of the Golden Dawn is designed to create change within the individual when and if necessary, change in the individuals life, and change in how they perceive life and the living of life. This is no easy task and can oftentimes lead to painful situations that must be worked through, but we have to keep in mind that the goal of the Golden Dawn system is a state of Spiritual Enlightenment, and quite often this is not something that can come about by continuing to lead our lives in the manner that we always have. Adjustments often need to be made both inwardly as well as outwardly, and this can at times be uncomfortable. All is not faery light and fluff in the world of Magic(k), and the magical traditions are not traditions that make everything easy. It is work, and quite often it can be the hardest and most difficult work that a person will ever undertake. The vast majority of people will walk away and play at lesser things when it gets to that point. Many people will baulk and criticize the size of the book. They will exclaim that this or that teaching isn't necessary, or that it's 90 percent fluff and padding and only a small portion of the text is relevant. What they fail to realize and understand is that the Golden Dawn system, as a spiritual system of attainment, is just as vast and extensive as any other system in the world. It is a spiritual technology that is as extensive as any form of Buddhism or Yoga tradition, just as extensive as the Sufi tradition, or any other spiritual tradition in existence. Contrary to what many may think or believe, Crowley was not the Golden Dawn. He was a member, but he wasn't the end all be all of the Golden Dawn, nor was he the only reason that there was schism in the original order. There were a number of forces and circumstances that led to the schism, and Crowley was simply the most visible and vocal. He wasn't, however, the sole reason for the initial schism. There were a number of things going on behind the scenes. Lasly, if anyone truly thinks that Trump is a member of the Golden Dawn, that person is completely clueless about what the Golden Dawn is actually about, but might understand their error if they began to truly study and practice the system.

[@Old_Soul]

Thank you for posting this. One of the few quality comments.

[@ronpipes1988]

@@Old_Soul You're very welcome.

[@donofascension]

Thank you for this review. I deeply appreciate it.

[@nerthus4685]

I am glad to see your respectful tone. So many self described experts love to demonstrate their superiority by distancing themselves, insulting and criticizing the Golden Dawn. It has become a fad.

[@susysnakegirl]

As a fellow bibliophile and occultist, I enjoy all your videos. Yours is probably my favorite channel. Thank you for taking the risk!

[@FoolishFishBooks]

:D It's cerainly been a risk worth taking! Thank you so much for the kind words! :D

[@thomaswilson4418]

@@God-i2 Watch his video on the importance of keeping the work a secret my friend.

[@thomaswilson4418]

@@God-i2 the subject matter is a risk his video explains it alot better then i can.

[@grimreaper6557]

i own an old copy of this book its been in my library for over 20 yrs it is a very intresting read i recommend it to anyone who wishes to learn

[@Nevetshalo1999]

As one who followed their teachings for a while, they really fail to explain the kabbalah, and I'm sorry to say, it felt like for a reason. As a turned esoteric to full on kabbalist, I would push anyone interested in this to look into the teachings of The Zohar and Sefer Yetzirah, I'd argue it is the fulfilling factor. That is not to say I didn't love the book! It started my path and taught me many a great thing.

[@24Wynn]

Have you read, "The Mystical Kabala" by Dion Fortune? Excellent book explaining the tree of life.

[@tanys9339]

Such an incredible book- never ending lessons to be learned within. Interestingly, these are the Rituals of the Stella Matutina, which was a surviving offshoot of the Golden Dawn, and the Rituals of the earlier Golden Dawn are in the Complete Golden Dawn System of Magic published by New Falcon, and is equally massive. Two Rituals for Higher Grades used by Whare Ra, a long surviving offshoot of the Stella Matutina are in The Secret Inner Rituals Of the Golden Dawn, also published by New Falcon. They are all so fascinating. I record the Rituals and listen to them as well, which has really helped. Thanks for another great review!

[@FoolishFishBooks]

Thanks for dropping the titles there! I'm sure I won't be the only one to find that useful! :)

[@tigerlillyfeelfree1695]

Lessons about what?

[@tanys9339]

@@tigerlillyfeelfree1695 Virtually all aspects of Western Occultism are taught in The Golden Dawn. Officer roles and more about the Order itself are found within the Initiation Rituals. And so much more...

[@christianmahadevasuarez2547]

@Torus Factory all hinduism

[@nikkihinton5642]

Thank you. Dogma is sliced and ritual is diced when the God Self spareheads life. Love whispered, "To thine own self be true is the Omnipresent Self, no one knew." The trek home is sublime: belonging to eternity the soul aligns. God bless.🕯️🌅 🕊️

[@brandoncallaway8835]

They still have the grades and there is an order above the orders.

[@spiralsun1]

Brandon, yes. Very insightful. ❤️

[@MikeFarleyHealer]

Most likely the 13 bloodlines would be the ones on top

[@themichaellaweraproject]

I just ordered like a dozen books. This is one of them. Cant wait to read this and others.

[@shauncampbell969]

I just ordered Golden Dawn from Amazon this morning. All the best Shaun of NYC

[@marietheut]

why from amazon?

[@Bobin10101]

@@marietheutwhere do you order books from?

[@rahulnair7714]

You have done it again, I have finally purchased my copy of The Golden dawn today thanks to you :D. I don't know why I have been putting it off for so long. Maybe its because I have the kindle copy, but there is nothing quite like holding a physical book in your hands. 15 years ago, I held my first ever RWS tarot deck with its cryptic booklet by Arthur Waite telling me about secrets the deck contains; and now, to own the original documents of the Order that began it all is just something else. Thank you very much, Denis :)

[@FoolishFishBooks]

You're very welcome, Rahul! :D It's most definitely a cornerstone of my own library. A very special book indeed, and a great edition with JMG's impeccable clean-up job!

[@519MaLoNeY]

Great video man! Thanks for making this. This book is phenomenal imo. There’s been SO many books I’ve got that claimed to be a solid foundation of the occult in general and only ever ended up being very basic stuff.(besides MPH’s work) THIS book on the other hand shocked me with it’s depth of knowledge. Truly outstanding book to own and I’m proud to have had a chance to buy it.

[@scientiautverum]

Forgot to mention that much of the original HOGD material from Bob Gilbert's collection is available in the library and museum of the United Grand Lodge of England.

[@philiproy189]

I bought this edition when I first wanted to dive into the Golden Dawn Tradition. This book is beautiful, and the updated pictures are marvelous. However, something I want to point out to anyone wanting to do the same, I ended up having to purchase the 6th edition as well. The reasons being, there are papers missing in this newer edition! Specifically, the one regarding the elemental grades. Also, all the previous introductions from the previous editions have been removed. Quite honestly, the content that has been removed in the 7th edition is rather indispensable. If you must choose between one or the other, I would recommend the 6th edition.

[@freedom3275]

Hi Philip - the 6th edition seems to be not available anywhere - is it discontinued? I am trying to find a copy.

[@philiproy189]

@@freedom3275 you'll have to find it used. I got my copy for 20 bucks. Check abe books or ebay or amazon if you really have to.

[@freedom3275]

@@philiproy189 thanks so much.

[@Niznizenk]

do you know about a coven or a group of people for academic teaching this method ?

[@AnUntetheredSoul]

3 years later and this review convinced me... impatiently waiting for my very own copy to arrive.

[@FoolishFishBooks]

It's a standard classic, for sure!

[@ModernMetaphysicae]

How on earth have I never heard of your channel!? Great review. Time to binge!

[@johnohanlon5696]

What are you talking about? I know about Sufi but why do you keep posting the same post ? I’m not been nasty , I’m really interested!

[@LoneLionLeo]

I got this book early into my occult journey but haven’t gotten to read it since your first review in fact made me not take it seriously. So Since then, I purchased other books on magick. Now I’ll give it a chance since I’m more knowledgeable of all of this. Ever since the pandemic I’ve been a bit disconnected with the occult world and magick all together. But I’m ready to get back on track.

[@Foxy57237]

Listen Cosmo don't get involved with any magic or occult it is very dangerous for the health of your Sole let God deal with the Magic not you or others instead work on your inner self .These Elite's or whatever they call themselves are on borrowed time and to they know it when Christ returns all these fool's will be heading to Hell no amount of magic will buy them from the judgement to come.

[@AttiMatter]

@@Foxy57237Christ never said he would return. Christ said Christ would return, and in a very cryptic way, mind you, as most versions dating up to modern times of Christian texts state. Take that how you will. I believe there will be a time of great enlightenment and spiritual revelation and awakening but it will take a lot to get there. I understand that your intent here is of course out of love, in an attempt to in your eyes “forewarn” or keep the person leaving this comment safe in your eyes, but do not shame anyone who simply has an interest in practices that simply defer from yours, magic(k) or not, especially not with loose threats of damnation. It does no good. It makes evident a sense of fear out of lack of understanding in your own self. I have nothing but love and respect for the fascinating story and teachings of Jesus Christ. I do not limit my spiritual understanding to Christianity however or any of it’s modern denominations, or historical interpretations. People and practice have a lot more in common than they do in difference, we must look past these differences instead of fighting over them as we have so often historically to come together and establish this age of new, positive, “godly” thought.

[@pan182]

I took a picture of this book in a barnes and nobles when i was in new york.. having left the shop i went to check the picture again to look for it online (to check out the reviews). To my astonishment, the picture of the book was mirrored upside down.. scared the hell out of me..

[@alexanderkaval7506]

I would LOVE to see a video on geomancy, it's something I've only recently started to seriously take up and am very interested in.

[@FoolishFishBooks]

It will surely come in time!

[@smeatknight]

Israel has been my favorite mentor ever since I stumbled upon him.

[@yochanan770]

My friend James did the illustrations for this edition.

[@FoolishFishBooks]

Oh! That's very cool :D

[@tzunammi]

Dope

[@NYCeesFinest]

Do you know where I can find it for purchase?

[@TheGonzogibby]

@@NYCeesFinest The Great Library of Alexandria ... oh, no, sorry ... Amazon. But better supporting your local bookstore if possible.

[@NYCeesFinest]

@@TheGonzogibby The book is unavailable on Amazon.

[@alejandromolina5645]

You have a gift for evaluating and describing books. Best channel for books 📖

[@Geoffr524]

This is so awesome Brother! I didn't know why I bought this book, but now I know. I really appreciate you so much on this journey.

[@miskatonic6576]

Love this book and refer to it often. John Michael Greer is an amazing author and has really cleaned up the Regardie edition allowing for easier reading and understanding of a complex subject matter. Really wish I had this volume when I was going through my early GD grade work.

[@Hokyoplasmicwaffle]

Biblio Obscura true... but that doesn’t take away from Regardie’s other works and his work on this. He is the man to thank for this, John is the man to thank to make this more “available” to the layman magician/practitioner/uninitiated.)

[@miskatonic6576]

@@Hokyoplasmicwaffle I completely agree.

[@Hokyoplasmicwaffle]

Biblio Obscura not wanting to take away from Johns genius. But always want to pay respects to the original. (I also didn’t want people to shy away from Israel’s works... because I LOVE his writings... the guy is LEGEND)

[@miskatonic6576]

@@Hokyoplasmicwaffle Very true...however, we should remember that this work wasn't really his. They were taken directly from the GD issued papers. His own works are much better presented and far more coherent and readable. On a side not I love Johns work too. I've published four of his books in limited edition hardcovers with a fifth on the way.

[@FoolishFishBooks]

@@miskatonic6576 There's no doubt, he's a treasure for the world of Magick! ❤️ And such a nice guy to boot!

[@WorldTimeLineChannel1]

I own this Book. I have been studying this book very deeply. I'm only on the Neophyte knowledge and Grade papers. Learning the Hebrew Alphabet was pretty challenging.

[@goose33]

That's what im trying to do rn lol

[@nietzschesno-things523]

well this is neat.... Scribd (which I use actually mainly for sheet music) has not only the Golden Dawn, but bunches of other interesting reads. Great video btw, really nice and analytical and unbias. As someone who wants to learn more about of this stuff for historical reasons, it totally helped me realize this is the book to read.

[@DarthLobitou]

I must admit, I'm an absolute skeptic when it comes to the occult, the supernatural, any sort of religious belief (though I'm respectful of it so long as they respect my lack of faith)... HOWEVER, through your channel, and as a clinical case study bibliophile, I've come to find these books fascinating. I've always found the subject matter interesting from an strictly empiric point of view, and great source of inspiration for my stories as a fantasy novelist, but I've mostly borrowed reference books from the library or bought the digital edition... now, now I really want to own (and am planning to buy soon as my next payday comes) several gorgeous volumes I've found on your channel, this being one of them. Not to mention, I find your videos both informative and extremely soothing... looking at gorgeous books like these, listening to the pages turning, etcétera. Not gonna try and go Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell with practical magic anytime soon (fantastic novel, by the way), but I'm certainly planning on enjoying them for research, for knowledge, and as very nice pieces to add to my collection.

[@FoolishFishBooks]

I'm so glad you're finding value in these videos despite keeping a healthy dose of skepticism! Personally, my skepticism is what drew me to all this in the first place. There's none of this "believe or be damned!" attitude you find in most mainstream traditions. I like to be able to try something, and keep only what works. I mean sure , if someone wants to have a fight about a technicality, there'll always be someone out there to pick up the gauntlet XD I tend to like the "this is what works for me - what works for you?" approach :) Warmest wishes to you, Jorge! Have a great day!

[@gunjfur8633]

@Alien Kill Squad Only if you let them be, Tarot & Zodiac are vague enough to be applicable to most

[@gunjfur8633]

@Alien Kill Squad I dont remember what natal chart were exactly

[@Baes_Theorem]

Agreed! As a staunch atheist and skeptic, I don’t accept any of the metaphysical claims, but I do think that these esoteric magical practices pull on very primal levers in our subconscious. It’s an excellent exercise in open mindedness and getting in touch with one’s subconscious self.

[@kylerobison1425]

Seeing and experiencing can change that quickly. Once thought as you but have leaned this world is greater than that. Break out of that high school mentality and the paradigm we were programmed in. You will see and experience things you thought were not true.

[@mortdigo]

At time stamp 16:56 you show the lovely coloured enochian watchtowers. I have the kindle version of this "The Golden Dawn". TO get a digital copy of these beautiful tables, I download kindle on my pc. I then open the digital book to the appropriate page. I then press "printscreen". Then I open powerpoint or equivalent; and then crop the image to my liking So for all those enochian practitioners out there, this is an awesome way to get your hands on the coloured watchtowers :-)

[@Astrology_Witch_DJ_Lifestyle]

😍 it's arrived ! It's more Gorgeous in person! 😍

[@scientiautverum]

Bear in mind that Regardie did not have all the information of the HOGD when the book was first published and what he did publish was highly abridged. Also, the info he did publish was Stella Matutina and not the Original HOGD - they are similar but not identical. Finally, some of the Egyptian references date back to Wallis-Budge, which has since been re-assessed and corrected. The original work was based on the information available at the time.

[@oldpondfrog788]

Surely that's a pseudonym

[@scientiautverum]

@@oldpondfrog788 Who - Wallis Budge? Curator of Egyptian and Assyrian antiquities at the British Museum and probably the foremost Egyptologist of his time.

[@TawsifEC]

Thanks for the insights.

[@traderknightzbitcoinuniver8168]

Apologies, I’m new to all of this. Is the new book still based on Stella Matutina ?

[@scientiautverum]

@@traderknightzbitcoinuniver8168 It is a new edition of Regardie's original book. As far as I'm aware, the only nrw things in it are the forewords.

[@alphaetomega]

It is a truly massive book.

[@karenkiebooms1373]

Books only exist 500 years in the form we know right now and it was Belisa Barca who invented the press technology, playing with wax and batik stamps ... she gave all the saints a book in their hands on her paintings - it would be a source of knowledge ... that's the force of creativity, but we seldom remember what inspired us. Making things too complicated is narcissistic, but sometimes it was the only way to preserve knowledge when people were more occupied with fighting. Belisa's life was the first life I remembered and it came in the form of a movie - that makes me conclude that we are all are playing the leading role in our personal movie. It was a door to another consciousness that contradicts everything we have learned about spirituality. Between her life and mine, there is the life of Johanna van Castilië and, since we have the ability to make the history real, it would help us to make movies that explain why it has become such a mess today. Johanna died in 1520, 500 years ago and I try to learn to reason logically again, why not give it a try? I don't have the intention to make those books forbidden again, but advise everyone to see the bigger picture - knowledge is only real, when shared and what is lost, will be lost forever!

[@trillstina]

I had a dream and realized I was dreaming so I began telling the strangers around me that I was dreaming. A person walked up to me and asked if I was a member of the order of the golden dawn. That was the last thing I remember. I'm trying to understand what it is.

[@mikuspalmis]

Astral interactions.

[@CaitofFate]

With missing pages out of the newer editions, would you recommend this or the self initiation of the golden dawn from the Ciceros

[@alejmitra7483]

I have no idea about what is this but I´m absolutely in love with those colorfull ilustrations (even I´m thinking in buy the book just for that). Beautiful!

[@flossytink]

I am fully attuned to esotericism - but I have experienced psychosis and mania after supernatural experiences. I stayed with Nicola and Harry Wendrich and i was humbled x

[@OsirisVas]

what kind of supernatural experiences

[@mikuspalmis]

Moving too fast or not grounded well enough?

[@flossytink]

@mikuspalmis I am not sure really, I am making sure that I fully understand the Neophyte curriculum and perform dailies and Tai Chi. Things have settled somewhat now but I’m still discombobulated about why I had an apocalyptic psychotic break in 2014 and again in 2023. Thank you for asking though and taking an interest :) Plus it is a lonely path not having any fellows and moving through a solitary study…

[@franckfrancois4378]

Just ordered this. I'm looking forward to pairing this with the Thoth Tarot and Quareia.

[@sillywilly123]

I may be able to understand the series Berserk better after this.

[@eyeswideopenharmony8239]

Watch the anime black clover a lot of this in the anime

[@sillywilly123]

@@eyeswideopenharmony8239 I watched the first episode when that come out and never got around to returning, hopefully it's worth catching up on.😊

[@peterlynch8768]

Love, the Golden Dawn, Regardie is an excellent writer and his composition of books is thorough and appropriate. I prefer Regardie over Crowely, tks.

[@ccantabrana6687]

What do think about "The Essential Golden Dawn an introduction to high magic"? Do think its a good start for a complete beginner or should i just start with the one you mention in the video? Great channel by the way!

[@TarandirYT]

I see so much of what the GD was teaching about in what the A.’.A.’. does. Soror Nihil Obstat has written a marvelous book on how Crowley saw Kabbalah and how it is used in the order. The book is called the Brazen Serpent and it is so reminiscent of Mathers even though it is of course as thelemic as it gets

[@FoolishFishBooks]

Thank you for the tip! I've seen the book around (Nephilim Press if I'm not mistaken?), I'll now have a better idea of the contents next time I spot it ;)

[@TarandirYT]

Yes, Nephilim press. The author also used to send out signed copies, which might still be on the market. The book has 3 main parts - the sepheroth, the paths and the veils, all of which are described with the same kind of analysis you would expect to find in commentaries to the holy books of Thelema, the quotes from which are of course generously sprinkled within the text

[@TarandirYT]

@MintythecatIsABeast Pretty sure Nephilim press ships their books worldwide. There are a lot of Europe based resellers on ebay, but the price is higher of course. Usually Miskatonic books (USA) and Midian books (UK I believe) are good for the otherwise out of stock books. But I think the Brazen Serpent is still in stock at the publisher's website

[@yintiz4635]

so of so many books, which ones do you recommend most？ I myself : Law of One, The Golden Dawn, (LBRP/MP), Yoga(Kundalini), Merkaba

[@Hokyoplasmicwaffle]

Aleister Crowleys Magick Book Four. Is the next step up after you consume and understand the teachings of this tome. (It is my personal opinion. But there is a reason Aleister broke away and started the A:.A and I believe he was on another level from these Golden Dawn boys..... he was the Mozart of Mages)

[@Hokyoplasmicwaffle]

Sidenote: I am not saying that Crowley is the end all be all. BUT, like Zeppelin, the Beatles, etc. (to relate this to music) he is one of the all time greats and homage MUST be paid to the great mind behind his teachings, which were (and still are) poignant and radical to his (and our) time.

[@FoolishFishBooks]

@@Hokyoplasmicwaffle Fully agree, I believe he's an indispensible link in the chain that links us to the early mages of Sumeria!

[@Hokyoplasmicwaffle]

Foolish Fish I believe one of the last “master mages” to exist before Crowley was Solomon himself. Those Sumerians... elusive buggers they are! Interesting to know what knowledge was lost in the burning of Alexandria of their practices and mystical orders. What little we do have of their culture does wield great power... though if you talk to the right mage, the same can be done with fictional powers as well (such as Lovecraftian entities as a verifiable example) I think it goes back to the mind and the user/wielder thereof. Then there’s the question- are all of these Gods/Angels/Demons merely egregores of the minds eye, or do any actually “exist” in our universe. Does a mage HAVE to in fact look outside of himself, or draw power from “entities/gods” outside of himself.... or is the mind of the mage, and the energy he is producing out of it more than sufficient enough??? Can one draw the same level of energy out of playing their favorite song and drawing the energy out of the very frequency of the notes themselves? Things to think about (but that I also wouldn’t mind others input on/about) - The Curious Mage

[@FoolishFishBooks]

@@Hokyoplasmicwaffle They're certainly the right questions ❤️

[@Hokyoplasmicwaffle]

Foolish Fish I do like ritual and ceremony.... especially when they give you the goose pimplies as they say. But I also want to question the need for such frivolities. Maybe, the need for those things is more mental than actually spiritual. (Maybe the average Joe cannot tap into the energies without the ritual, motion, of doing a,b,c to get the mind generator running) but if I’m right, then there is much misleading happening that you must follow certain formulae to get a desired result, when the same can be achieved without the incense burners, the chimes, etc. as long as you are engaging the senses (sight, smell, sound, touch, and in some instances taste) Magick CAN be performed in the most unorthodox or unbelievable of places. I have yet to read a masters work claiming or explaining such.... but I have some stories/experiences (and I bet a great many more than just myself have) that would argue the latter.

[@MrJasonsean]

What are your thoughts on the book Self initiation into the Golden Dawn by Chic Cicero and Sandra Tabatha Cicero.

[@luckystrike757]

Thank you for the review. I now have this one on the book shelf. Such a thick book.

[@suncat5160]

Loved this review. Love all of your reviews!

[@FoolishFishBooks]

😄 thank you for the kind words! Best wishes to you!

[@suncat5160]

Foolish Fish thanks, right back atcha!

[@brandoncallaway8835]

Foolish fish... DO you have a copy of the version of the tree of life by Israel Regardie that was edited and annotated by the Cicero's, and if so does it have colored photos?

[@FoolishFishBooks]

I do, and it doesn't.

[@seiya93]

Could you talk about the books of Chic & Tabatha Cicero and Pat Zalewsky about the Golden Dawn? 🙏

[@richardmurphy2850]

Oh my hahaha... The Railway Children, that my highschool literature component. I didn't know Edith Nesbit is one of Golden Dawn member.

[@stalkerlohh]

should i get this book or The Complete Golden Dawn System of Magic ? what are the main differences ? any information would be much appreciated

[@LunchboxFamily765]

Golden Dawn heard of that 📖 is it very knowledgeable for Golden Dawn books 😀😀

[@Norell88]

New subscriber, from Sweden. I just came across this channel. Very timely, brother. Appreciate your work.

[@ryan19554]

Very good review! Thank you 🙏

[@michaeltillman886]

I also have the paperback copy of the Golden Dawn.

[@SMQai]

You mentioned divination. It would be very helpful if you did a video on divination. Thanks for your work. Very important.

[@FoolishFishBooks]

Thanks for watching. Yes an overview of known methods could be fun 😁👍

[@SMQai]

@@FoolishFishBooks I think you would be the perfect person to do it. You have the ability to make complexity seem more accessible and less confusing. Thanks again.

[@sarahallenhumboldt2638]

Thank you for pointing out what an inexcusably poor job they did of binding it; I will get a copy of one of the earlier editions.

[@chompachangas]

I find that John Michael Greer writes in a clear and concise manner, without being overly technical or flowery. I picked up Regardie's Tree of Life and I while I think the book is densely packed with useful information, his writing style is long-winded and roundabout. I would give The Golden Dawn a go just because JMG worked to edit and update it. What are your thoughts on the writing styles of the likes of Israel Regardie and Dion Fortune? Do you have any other recommendations? Thanks!

[@FoolishFishBooks]

JMG's style is delightful. I might recommend Circles of Power and also Paths of Light by the same author.

[@24Wynn]

I have "The Mystical Kabballa," by Dion Fortune. Best book explaining the tree of life, or the sephera.

[@Luna-qk9fz]

Oh man its sitting on my shelf and havnt even cracked it ... daunting

[@FoolishFishBooks]

Oh, daunting is right! But really worth taming 😄👍 thanks for watching!

[@FoolishFishBooks]

@@jeremyrobinson5834 What a privilege! :) Thanks for sharing!

[@jeremyrobinson5834]

@@FoolishFishBooks It certainly was, and you are welcome. I Miss having conversations with him, quite a highly intelligent and man with a good & generous heart. He even gave my parents a Car free of charge, an Oldsmobile Cutlass supreme,When they were struggling financialy and had car issues back in the late 1990s , he was more like family then just a friend. Plus he was Very wise and Psychic. A true gentleman and Renaissance Man.

[@garrettgearhart6123]

Do you have any Crowley books to review?

[@scottn6578]

Hey Foolish Fish! Do you know if they're might be an audiobook for The Golden Dawn? I am excited too read through it, though I am neurodivergent, and gathering information for me is much easier with an audiobook. Thank you!

[@FoolishFishBooks]

I'm so sorry, I'm afraid the are no audiobooks that I'm aware of. 🙇

[@scottn6578]

@@FoolishFishBooks No worries 😁 Thank you

[@masteraus66]

I'm definitely interested but this seems like I'd be jumping in the deep end with very little prior knowledge.

[@YDS72]

Great video i am curious do you have much experience with the green paperback self initiation book ? I am thinking maybe it would be better for my study.

[@FoolishFishBooks]

I've not seen it close up, I'm afraid, I can't help with this one.

[@YDS72]

@@FoolishFishBooks cool thanks for the reply i just thought i would check with you have a great week 🐉

[@georgigulliksen2047]

This book just arived in the mail yesterday. Lucky me😃

[@FoolishFishBooks]

Enjoy! 😄👍

[@eugenek1180]

Interesting recommend. Does any of it actually work? What is any of this for, besides organizing into cult groups and participating in some "religious theatre?" What specific results in life and in one's state of consciousness can someone expect to gain from getting into such esoteric practices?

[@gesudinazaret9259]

Union with god ,then the capacity to do miracles similar to the ones Jesus did

[@plissken2245]

Hi FF, There is a GD in my area. Do you see any advantage in joining a group vs just practicing on your own? TY and Cheers.

[@FoolishFishBooks]

DIfferent people will have different experiences. I hope you have a good time trying it out!

[@plissken2245]

@@FoolishFishBooks Thanks! I bought a whack of books you've recommended. : )

[@artawhirler]

The Golden Dawn would be a lot more impressive if we didn't know that the whole thing was just invented out of thin air at the turn of the 20th Century. But still, I love your channel and always enjoy watching your book reviews.

[@matthewwetton330]

Very interesting stuff. Thank you for the share. Do you happen to be interested in green wood carving? I ask as am sure I have heard your voice before on carving videos. Harry?

[@FoolishFishBooks]

I'm not Harry, no, though I do enjoy wood carving off camera 😄

[@deonwhite201]

Very interesting video topic

[@kennyshortcake999]

So calm, so clear and so, so interesting. Watching any of your videos is a delight. I bought this, along with other esoteric works.

[@cult2occult897]

What is the difference between this book and the book by regardie titled the complete golden dawn system of magic?

[@mikuspalmis]

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[@brandoncolley2758]

Ok so the Dragon is real! I take a lot of schrroms and go into these trances in where I say ' I AM ' ect for hours and hours

[@user-id5il5zl6j]

Best comment AND name.

[@brandoncolley2758]

@@user-id5il5zl6j a Phoenix busted out of my head on Dec 13 ...no joke

[@user-id5il5zl6j]

@@brandoncolley2758 psychedelics are amazing and also healing. i hope it was a good kind of phoenix.(i'm not being a troll btw)

[@brandoncolley2758]

@@user-id5il5zl6j After it sprung from me I bellowed Mercy then dropped down and began saying Love repeatedly as a Universe was created . A few months before a merger or awakening occurred and I had become quite Extremely Dualistic. After the Red Dragon left so did my " Accuser " like nature. This happened on 14gs during that big Eclipse / Galactic Alignment. I just hope I am not being Double Crossed as I now understand what I must do

[@joeselsbury543]

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[@kingpuppet5881]

I cant seem to acquire a copy anywhere. Hope to get a copy soon. Looks incredibly advanced. I will have to do research as I read it. Thanks for your amazing video.

[@kingpuppet5881]

Oh I managed to get a hard copy!!! I can't wait study the book. Thank you again for this insightful review.

[@ileanamendez7583]

Thank you! 🌟

[@michaelwinkler7841]

I have a heretic question: isn‘t this all kind of convoluted fluff distracting from the very simple truth in magic? It certainly looks like this to me. Kind of „let‘s put lots of mazes in front of the truth so not many of the interested ones reach it“.

[@FoolishFishBooks]

I made a video about a year ago called occultism Vs mysticism (or something along those lines) where I approach this question. I think different people need different things to reach the core. Some people are great with intuition, some people are great with patterns and logic. This is just one path. It's not for everyone. That's not too say everyone can't approach it, it's just not the best path for everyone. 👍

[@boomchaka7762]

@@FoolishFishBooks yes! Wonderful assessment and reply to that question. This discernment is part of the learning process and 'self' discovery that gets grappled with along the Way. Especially if you are attracted to both pattern/logic/method AND the intuitive/mystical!

[@derekk2732]

The exact same thought crossed my mind after making it 50 pages through this book. It seems like an overwhelming labyrinth of understanding and knowledge, much of which seems unnecessary, and perhaps for the purposes of creating social cohesion. I like to separate the practices and the knowledge from all the extra.

[@thedevilsadvocate8766]

The point of the mazes and labyrinths is pretty much laid out in the First Lecture of this book, my dude. It's symbolic language meant to show otherwise hidden, or "occult", relationships between seemingly unrelated concepts. The further you advance in the order, the more complex and/or abstract the symbols become in order to relate more complex or abstract ideas. In a sense, yes, it is a heretic question because as much as we want all people to enjoy and benefit from the knowledge that we have, the harsh reality is that there are still people who simply are not ready to accept or handle the very real responsibility that comes with this kind of power. The orders of the world maintained strict silence because of this. However we live in a world today wherein each day more and more people come to understand the basic ideas which lead one to these orders. I, personally, feel that silence is no longer necessary but I also KNOW that if i just rambling about these very abstract concepts to your average Joe he isnt going to understand a word of it. The mazes and labyrinths serve a dual purpose in the modern era: firstly they screen out the dabblers and secondly they provide a framework of symbology from which even a small child can learn. Idk if that made any sense but it's how it was explained to me when I was a member and asking the same questions.

[@derekk2732]

@@thedevilsadvocate8766 Thanks for the response, I understand what you're saying, it feels much like painting the fence like in the movie "karate kid", perhaps the purpose of it isn't known until later on.

[@omnihuntress208128]

I was really trying not to buy no books but this one looks interesting and a few others I noticed on your platform. ❣️IJS❣️FACTS❣️🕊️✌🏾⛲❣️ 💯🕊️✌🏾💖💪🏽🙏🏾❣️

[@FoolishFishBooks]

It's a great one, for sure! and hey, thanks for the support! :D Greatly appreciated!

[@themarecool]

Hi Fish, I'm wondering if I should get the Golden Dawn by Israel Regardie or the self initiation into the golden dawn by the Cicero's. I'm looking for the most 'dictionary' one, if you understand my meaning

[@gacera2520]

Hello there! Thank you so much for your beautiful videos and energy! If you would recommend me one book to buy, which in your opinion is the best and most inclusive book of magic, one that I would be self initiating with and learning from my whole life. what would it be? The golden dawn? Or you think of another one?

[@FoolishFishBooks]

It's a great encyclopaedic resource. But check out my very latest video (at the timre of writing) called 10 Desert Island Esoteric Books.

[@magusthemage4411]

Heard there where a lot of error made in this edition. Like ashim being swapped with kerubim and raphael swapped with michael. Plus many more errors

[@longshorts5154]

I don’t know if this is a silly question. But i haven’t read or researched enough in ocult to say anything for certain but what I believe is if there is any truly powerful magick or works of occult I doubt it would be open to the public and I doubt any of us would ever know about it. Does that make sense. Saying that the “highest” forms of magick would be hidden by some hidden cults or groups

[@FoolishFishBooks]

Think about the "general public" and how much attention they would pay to a book like this... The usual two reactions are either "uh! soft-brained nonsense!", or just not registering at all based on it not being a 7 second celebrity video. The secrets are safe ;P

[@carver6794]

The best hiding spots can be out in the open

[@AnchoringHighFrequency]

Carver our money has black magic curses all over it not to mention the teLIEvision which channels programming. Pretty much all science fiction Hollywood puts out is based on truth from The Matrix to Star Wars to Predator to Terminator. Sky net is real. Trump unveiled the secret space program flag (which has been around since at least WWII when nazis started making deals in Antarctica) which has the freakin Star Trek emblem. This is how they get around galactic disclosure by putting it right in our faces while the sheep keep sleeping... The planes that flew into the World Trade Center were a hologram... that was a satanic sacrifice.

[@carver6794]

@@AnchoringHighFrequency truth is stranger than fiction

[@AnchoringHighFrequency]

Carver cuz fiction is based on truth 💯🖖😎

[@eclass_1]

I really like your videos.. thank you!

[@MarianaCrystal]

Guys, I'm new in esoteric. Is it good for me to read it ?

[@FoolishFishBooks]

It's not "especially designed" for a newcommer, but it's not inaccessible either. It's a book you will learn from no matter what your experience is, and one you will pick off your shelf year after year looking for new levels of understanding. So... Is there anything in here for a beginner? Absolutely. Is it only for beginners? Absolutely not :)

[@MarianaCrystal]

@@FoolishFishBooks wow , thank you! Its because I read a commentary saying that its hard for begginers to do the exercises or its not for a solitary student. But I'm very interested about this book, if I can learn something, etc.

[@FoolishFishBooks]

@@MarianaCrystal Have a look at the books I recommend here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5rZnIdrprCrftk While I'd say that you'd never regret getting this, you might find something else that sounds even better in this video depending on what you're after. I'd also say that depite not being designed with a solo practitioner in mind This particular volume is nevertheless full of great material for the solo practitioner, and most solo practitioner manuals you'll find out there will be based on this.

[@JiandiP]

Esoteric Path by Luc Benoist. The Elements of Qabalah by Will Parfitt. What is Occultism by Dion Fortune.

[@ctuagent247]

Natasha, I would direct you to Mark Passio. He does a great job of introducing people to the occult. He has a ton of lectures on YT and a podcast called What On Earth Is Happening.

[@lastunctives2095]

Got the official Essential Golden Dawn 2004 and the Tarot Deck . Largely unread and the Tarot Deck isn't a favourite . However think I will be more receptive in 22 should be a useful winter read along with the Book of Thoth .The decline of Occult Churches is an interesting sign of the spiritual miss match between today's individual and the rejection of systematic occultism in favour of a chaos cannibal approach which should be valid - since the acausal is outside of time and space ? If only one had the time for these magisterial tomes of other ages but alas the reaper cometh . Wonder if their numerology says anything useful in terms of probability the dice of chance ?

[@straiph]

What came first for the lady who drew the riderwait tarot? Had she already made the drawings before joining?

[@arcadealchemist]

i'm kinda gonna need to decipher this book so it's on my wish list.

[@hardusoberholzer4778]

Loving the content man.💪

[@michaelmcloughlinmcloughli4023]

Thank you very interesting I like the book and golden dawn

[@robertrydlewski9538]

I am just concern that all three most prominent religions, like Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, strictly forbid this practice. There has to be a reason why all those religion forbids this knowledge.

[@mikuspalmis]

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[@itsfort]

Becouse a lot of folk particles (folk magick) in Europe was very deeply pagan. All these religions have demonized many practices and people, and religions. There is no reasons other than ignorant. So many had died over "Witchcraft" and "Devil worship."

[@lisah1909]

Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me. My brother in law has asked for 'The complete golden dawn by Israel Regardie' for his birthday. I saw 'The golden dawn' on a website for around £40 but I've noticed 'the complete golden dawn system of magic' is a lot more expensive. Is there any chance someone in the know could tell me the difference between the two? Thank you 😊

[@lisah1909]

@Chris101 Gray aww thanks very much for getting back to me. I agree. I went with 'the complete golden dawn system of magic portable version' in the end and he loved it 😊

[@Ep0pteia]

The 6th edition, is it too different from this one?

[@philiproy189]

Funny you ask, I just answered your question in another comment. The short answer: yes.

[@jonathanallen2560]

So where should I start if I want to begin deciphering this book?

[@JiandiP]

What's the difference between this and Complete Golden Dawn System of Magic?

[@joshprice9143]

This book is a collection rites, grade initiations and all topics studied and practiced within the Stella Matutina Lodge, a daughter based in Bristol whereas The Complete Golden Dawn System Of Magic, which focuses on the covers the Isis-Urania Temple and its rites, lectures, grade initations ect...both equally essential works for Golden Dawn initaltiates

[@JiandiP]

Thanks. I've been using studying Portable Complete System for the past year. I recently acquired this version (but the 1969 2nd Edition) and look forward to integrating it into my work. Thanks again for sharing.

[@sofiasten637]

I have this book and want to understand it, but it is so hard! Can you maybe do an video for us beginners in tje Golden dawn book? ❤️ 🙏

[@dvtxrose]

Very nice review.

[@johnco6789]

Please review the books of Franz Bardon.

[@DLlynaLaRei]

I love your videos. Finding them has fostered a very lovely relationship with reading esoterica. You mention a couple of books (I believe) Higmantia/Hygmanschia and Pig of Tricks. I couldn’t quite figure it out. Would you mind pointing me in the right direction? Thanks!

[@FoolishFishBooks]

Hygromanteia and Picatrix 🙏

[@DLlynaLaRei]

@@FoolishFishBooks Thank you!!! I felt so lost and dumb.😅

[@FoolishFishBooks]

@@DLlynaLaRei 😄 now you know how I and all other students of esoteric subjects feel most of the time! 😂 Welcome among our ranks!

[@moonrose4922]

Is this book comparable to the secret teachings of all ages by Manly P Hall? Or does it have different information in it?