The golf ball that made golfers too good

Golf's distance debate, explained.
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These days, pro golfers are hitting the ball far. Really far. And it's creating a problem: because modern golfers can reach the hole with fewer shots than before, older courses -- like Augusta National Golf Club, Oakmont Country Club, and others -- are becoming obsolete. Now, professional organizations, like the United States Golf Association, are struggling to find a solution for big powerful golfers like Dustin Johnson, Bubba Watson, and Tiger Woods. While the jump in distance is due to lots of factors, conversation is centering on the controversial possibility of redesigning the golf ball to reduce distance. It'd be the latest turn in the ball's long history: Golf balls have evolved from "featheries," to gutties, to balata balls, and eventually dimpled modern balls. But the biggest, and most recent change? The almost-instantaneous switch from wound balls to solid core multilayer balls like the Titleist Pro V1.
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You are welcome

[@tobitobi2493]

golf is a waste of space, can you not promote the sport?

[@tospsy]

It fwiday!

[@thetayterminator1436]

EYYY MY CITY!!!! AUGUSTA!!!

[@tuckercook7426]

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[@chezmix64]

Golfer: performs insane shot Other golfers: “we need to do something to stop this” This is why golf is a boring sport

[@pessimisticpianist582]

Golf is NOT boring....

[@harrylane4]

@@pessimisticpianist582 every sport whose major league association insists on quashing any innovation within their sport is boring.

[@teovinokur9362]

golf could be less boring, is the point

[@jrddino]

@@harrylane4 No steel bats are allowed in the MLB?

[@tombstonejones9581]

@@pessimisticpianist582 Golf is the most boring major sport.

[@Keely7060]

Have they tried installing a windmill? or perhaps a small moat with castle?

[@NapaCat]

Minigolf vs. normal golf. They're different.

[@svis6888]

@@NapaCat But what about a looping?

[@Turk380]

@@NapaCat much like a golf ball.. that one went right over year head.

[@NoNameAtAll2]

@@NapaCat they don't have to be

[@nickevershedmusic8927]

@@NapaCat nahhhh really?!

[@ilikegamestoo9]

100 years later... Golfer: **taps ball** Ball: **Flies 400 yards** Golfer: Oh god dammit!

[@T3m0ur]

ILikeGamesToo - King of Discord I DIED WHEN I SAW THIS 😂

[@adamduerwachter2596]

“Can you throw it back? It’s only like four hundred yards!”

[@theaveragejoe___]

**hits ball over Pacific ocean**

[@arthas640]

that's how it feels in some sports now. You've got athletes pumped up on creatine using their space age, nanofilament diamond edged clubs firing a carbon fiber, depleted uranium core golf ball at Mach 2 into the next zip code. I wish more sports would only allow basic equipment to keep it more interesting.

[@cherrylemon2940]

Golfer: **hits hard** Ball: **Ceases to exist** Golfer:

[@personalemail1632]

This is only really a problem for elite golfers. Average golfers have more flaws and the obstacle have more of an effect

[@SpaghettiKillah]

Well those are the *ONLY* golfers who actually matter. PGA Tour level. That's the big $ Who tf cares about amateur hour or some doctors playing golf on weekends? 😂

[@personalemail1632]

@@SpaghettiKillah Thats who most golfers are, so those golfers care. This just sounds like elitism. The average golfer paying for a round of golf isnt elite

[@ivankrushensky]

I can see both sides of the argument. Why not just make a rule that a ball has to meet certain specifications in tournament play? Most (if not all) other sports have rules like this. Golf has all kinds of silly rules, but they don't have any specifications/requirements a ball must meet? Seems like they overlooked something in the rule book.

[@PassTheSnails]

Trickle-down Balancing dictates that the sport should be balanced around the highest level of play no matter what, since top players are the most likely to break the game. The sport will automatically be balanced for all skill levels below that.

[@personalemail1632]

@@PassTheSnails Fewer will want to play courses that are super long and designed for the elite golfers though. It just wouldn’t be as fun. Regardless of if it is balanced.

[@Cornwall1888]

That hole is also a bit easier for Bubba because he’s left handed

[@jaredponmakha9564]

Cornwall1888 I would disagree because playing a slice usually makes the ball go a bit shorter

[@Cornwall1888]

Jared Ponmakha yes but a slice is easier to control and bubba doesn’t lack distance

[@justanother6595]

Disagree, a draw is easier to control. A slice tends to fly farther awry on a golf hole.

[@campkira]

They make it longer now so it don't matter anymore.

[@trip4osu]

@@Cornwall1888 yes, easier to control and promotes a high ball flight which would be needed to get it over the trees so quickly

[@graafixzgaming6652]

The 13th hole at Augusta national golf club is just that wii sports golf course why has nobody noticed

[@runarandersen878]

I thought this was similar to something I had seen before, and I don’t watch golf on TV.

[@Benjy52]

Runar Andersen Same!!

[@amirabudubai2279]

Pretty sure it was in Mario golf on the gamecube as well.

[@therealestsavage]

I live in Augusta and live close to that golf club, they already making preparations for the masters. Making temporary parking spots, home owners renting out their yards as parking space. I hate it. Washington Rd backs up. Takes forever to get down it. Cops park in the center lane every few yards to prevent people from riding in it. Will buy/selling golf ticket people everywhere. I hope the masters fly by.

[@crusherconi]

Wii sports is the pinnacle of sporting

[@javagoblin1585]

I've never picked up a golf club in my life, and yet, I'm here. idek.

[@xavierxavier3610]

Me too. Now I want to play golf

[@wcurty336]

So you come onto KZbin with the sole purpose of watching things you already completely know about?

[@KurokoShirai]

Give it a try! It's a lot of fun!

[@theboybrutus9894]

saaaame😂 how does this happen

[@theboybrutus9894]

AND i watched the whole thing..like

[@devvydoesstuff]

Imagine getting kicked out of a championship for being too good

[@TechSupportDave]

@Chicken Creator to be fair, i can see how anyone can be "too good" at something. it's all about technique and practise and sometimes equipment. if you invent your own technique for something then that can put you in the lead, in other things practise may be what puts you at the top, in other things it's equipment that makes a big difference. Sometimes it's all of them, sometimes only one or two. But I think that very often it's inventing a more efficient technique that has the biggest chance of putting you ahead of everyone else. There are a lot of examples in the history of sports alone, nevermind all the current competitive "sports" such as gaming, speedsolving a rubiks cube, balisong knife tricks, ect. All it takes is one innovative mind.

[@alexpotts6520]

That's what casinos do...

[@tentacle8148]

In my country (Ukraine) i have been discualified because i have played too good for my hcp. It was sad because could be on the first place in a big tournament.

[@extendedreal]

@@TechSupportDave me when im trying to reach the minimum word count.

[@criticallyconk4944]

Cannot relate

[@HaitianHero48]

That Bubba shot was the shot everyone would try to hit on Wii Sports Golf.

[@soppoi123]

5 times, even more.

[@TheKBrosTech]

This hurts.

[@toasti3s]

@@TheKBrosTech ⁹⁹u⁸⁸88y6yy

[@UKrulesSaysMe]

Where do you think he got the idea

[@markgoldbridge6828]

3rd hole

[@mlg_lame]

Graphic designer: what kind of thumbnail would you like? Vox: Yes

[@SoarDr]

Nice one

[@karl7567]

OH YEAH YEAH

[@okie9025]

Graphic Designer* Web designers make websites

[@yes-gs2rd]

It's not even really a meme, it's the same type of people that think you use photoshop for anything everything

[@imstupidbut]

@@yes-gs2rd exactly, I hate people like these

[@shakotanstyle7409]

Lmao bruh at 0:49 they use a sound clip of a driver hitting a ball, but the club that Bubba Watson is using is an iron

[@LordVader1094]

fukn exposed

[@travislazenby6797]

I saw that and thought damn ping goes all out on their irons.

[@Joseph-rx9tp]

soy boys don't know anything about golf.

[@quasicroissant]

Absolutely unwatchable

[@lvl9001Troll]

Women watch these videos too u kno

[@Lcwtex]

I was a caddy In Michigan when the prov1 was released. These balls were five dollars a ball in a sleeve. I thought it was absolutely crazy that people would spend five dollars on a golf ball. But when I saw the difference in flight and distance this golf ball could provide. I saw my golfers handicap drop a little

[@deerkeyproductions3268]

Man I sure do love Wii golf

[@julianachille3406]

Antler Coco so do Wii

[@antiseth3964]

Yo I shot par playing Wii Golf for the first time in years. Absolute professional here.

[@cricket12ish]

I hear the music

[@johnsherfey3675]

Speed run of Wii golf

[@MidnightFox2189]

Where's my Nintendo switch golf

[@RickShielsPGA]

My favourite part of this video is at 3:16 🤣🧔🏻

[@adambentley5425]

Agreed

[@qamarulikhwan6281]

Hahahahha rick in this video 🤣

[@creounity]

After he finished cutting the golf ball, he did cut by half his own BALLS :)

[@syedfayzan2]

SCSA wants to know your location

[@alannavarrete5092]

Never though I would see you here #disapointment

[@MXdemex]

Buff the courses instead of nerfing the balls. Slowly but surely thatll even it out. Edit: Note to self... Don't comment until the end of the video

[@ajschroetlin2196]

Is it easier to change every course on the planet, or just limit the technology available?

[@LG-xg8fw]

@@ajschroetlin2196 maybe just, do nothing, and just accept the fact people are hitting ball further?

[@DK4Code]

Or change the scoring system

[@qvd3533]

@@LG-xg8fw That just ruins the whole experience

[@bread5251]

Lol golf is so boring and they just want to keep it that way ig

[@seanpark5239]

4:32 “Players are overpowering golf courses made in another era” The par 5 is 615 yards Bruh

[@DanTwigGolf]

But notice how the ball has flown over all the bunkers either side of that fairway. Probably wasn’t the best example to use but the drive has eliminated all the obstacles simply because it’s flown over them all.

[@niggy730]

@@DanTwigGolf Also notice how it was Dustin Johnson who hit the ball... There's a difference between "pro golfer" and world #1 known for hitting it miles. I get what you're saying, but I think this "debate" is a bit flawed when players who have dedicated themselves to gain an advantage by hitting it far are being portrayed as if all pros are like that

[@omaoileoinb9]

@@niggy730 exactly. 95% of all golfers cant hit it 300 yards.

[@Andyp12]

5:29 "With the advent of even more efficient golf ball manufacturing techniques after 2020, Augusta eventually had to buy up the entire surrounding area for the 13th hole. This included a local hospital, a Denny's, a small wicker chair manufacturers, a military testing ground for nuclear weapons, 5 different branches of Starbucks, an independent clothing store known as 'The Only Fit', a park bench, a hot dog stand near by the bench who could not get out of the way fast enough for the course expansion, a millenial 'minamalist' condo, three square feet of sidewalk & half the front door step of one Mrs S Arnall, of 14 biggins street."

[@writwits5826]

Sounds like some satire news show lol

[@2beJT]

Don't tell them about what had to happen to get that shed with all the lawn tractors to fit on the property.

[@LaidBackGolf]

u made me go from :( to :) so thanks dude. funny comment. im glad u spent the time on it. now i go to sleep, thinking of ur silly comment, g thnx k bye

[@TheSultan1470]

Wuut

[@couldbeanybody2508]

Graphic designer: how would you like the thumbnail? Vox: *yes.*

[@petitblackriver]

lame

[@saltysoysauce954]

lame, doesn't make sense, not how the joke works.

[@majiki5473]

lame

[@nayeonstan1463]

Lame. Get a life.

[@randalejetmagalit1198]

Lame

[@EsculatedPingu]

How do you go about finding random news articles about golf from 1936?

[@AskMiko]

Newspapers.com. The have every archived newspaper. The content in archived papers from the early 1900s are rather interesting. Go back to the 1800s and readers today would be amazed at what was printed.

[@jonf6509]

just google it duh

[@campkira]

Same as anyone who need news article from 1936.

[@haha69sexnumber]

Ancestry.com

[@whaterfoo]

Now it's newspaper.com before that there was a thing called a library

[@Andrew-sv3ck]

Worker at a PGA course here. We recently fixed an issue like this on one of the holes by moving the tees up about 40 yards and making it a par 4 instead of 5. Much harder hole now.

[@jinsooked]

So it became a par 71 course and shortened total yardage?

[@Andrew-sv3ck]

@@jinsooked nope, another hole got bumped back (had the space) and got bumped up to 5.

[@jinsooked]

@@Andrew-sv3ck i see. Thanks for replying after your two year old comment!

[@DeathnoteBB]

This sort of logic is why gymnastics went from walking to a whole circus act

[@JaydonTobler]

Idk how you make Golf more exciting, but making the ball slower and not hit as far, seems like the opposite.

[@Keen3]

No one is trying to make it more exciting. Golf is doing just fine as it is. Probably the best it's ever been.

[@danielliao749]

Well it probably would be because it would force golfers to lay up and sometimes play high risk shots. Good shots from tough conditions are what’s fun to watch. Honestly not many care about how far they hit it

[@jko8888]

@@danielliao749 Yep. I'd much rather watch pros hit skilled shots rather than long drives.

[@yukiamijochi]

I often wonder ... The only goal in Golf is to play less golf ... heh

[@edgaryh]

That's the point of every sport? The point is to win and end the game? If it's too even then a game takes longer

[@yukiamijochi]

@@edgaryh Mhhh ... Never thought about that thy ... Not every sport tho ... but it took me a while to find one ^^

[@icaroomdigital]

@@edgaryh most sports have a set time, 90min for soccer, 40min basketball

[@edgaryh]

@@icaroomdigital yeah, exta time and penalty shootouts are just a myth

[@icaroomdigital]

@@edgaryh they are exceptions

[@davidbuschhorn6539]

My golf instructor said, "If you can hit a 250 yard drive, you can compete with the pros *_IF_* you never more than two-putt." I spent more time on the practice green than on the driving range and my game improved a *_lot._*

[@nickcivetta2]

David Buschhorn no shot you can compete with 250 yard drives. You’d encounter par 4s where you’d be left with another 230+ for an approach shot

[@davidbuschhorn6539]

@@nickcivetta2 Right. Two 250-ish yard drives and two putt for par. You should never more than 2-putt (ideally ;)). First putt gets you within three feet, second putt sinks it.

[@RecklessRusty]

If you can putt and drive you can scratch a lot of municipal courses. Chip and putt well and you can go whole rounds without doubles.

[@gomjabbar6246]

@@nickcivetta2 The lesson is correct, putting has more of an impact on scoring than drives, given you reach a certain skill floor. That being said, the only modern pro to rely solely on their putting was Jordan Speith and even he hit the ball 300 if he wanted to.

[@PsychedellicaMitch]

i can drive 250 yards right into the trees and 2 put though, takes me a couple to get out of trees

[@Johnniewalker78]

I wish I had the problem of hitting it too far.

[@commonsense2156]

I know right I havent noticed this distance increase

[@FirstLast-ie3kq]

Ikr I average 250 off the tee

[@FirstLast-ie3kq]

@DVN *sympathy laugh

[@jazzabighits4473]

Play a par 3 and use a driver and you'll hit well past the hole

[@nickdisalvo7625]

2:35 ; The sound guy falls asleep on the board

[@NCbassfishing24]

Actually, he was hit with a Titleist Pro V1 golf ball.

[@blahbleh5671]

I don;'t get it, what's wrong with the audio? The whoosh sound?

[@freddiemercury6808]

@@blahbleh5671 The audio on the right side spiked in volume for a second

[@blahbleh5671]

@@freddiemercury6808 so weird I didn't hear that the first time I was on this video and I repeated the part like 5 times, all I heard was a whoosh sound but now when I return I can hear what you're talking about.

[@thefantorangster2491]

I dont hear it, maybe they have edited the video. You can edit after posting now btw of you didnt know.

[@chilling-boy]

Bubba Watson sounds like a new star wars villain

[@alexm.s4000]

IVE GOT TO FIND BUUUUBBBBAAAA

[@fedup1940]

I've heard that Bubba never took a golf lesson when he first got into the game. He just did things his own way.

[@Fierywell]

Maybe because it sounds like Boba Fett

[@Fierywell]

@@nick.4.yeah I know what i meant is that your subconscious would make you think that bubba sounds like the name boba Fett which is a star Wars villain

[@matt_l2003]

OKAY KZbin, YOU WIN, YOU HAVE RECOMMENDED ME THIS VIDEO FOR LITERALLY 3 WHOLE YEARS NONSTOP ON 5 DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS, I WILL WATCH IT NOW JUST TO MAKE YOU HAPPY AND JUST TO GET IT OFF MY RECOMMENDED FOR THE LAST TIME

[@C33Z]

what am i doing here i dont even play golf

[@RewindOfficialDoesMusic]

None of us do 😂

[@polong99]

It doesn't hurt to add some knowledge on something

[@perennialistperspective]

its a fascinating video haha. i was big into golf when the pro v1 not only flew great but it felt softer off the club face. this doesn't seem like a big deal but the market loved that soft feel.

[@youngthug5889]

Mr. Rewind I do

[@CosmiaNebula]

3:39 that chart is very misleading. It seemed as if the multi-layered ball is medium on both Distance and Accuracy. You should have drawn it like a square, with axes being Distance and Accuracy.

[@mysticduck7846]

Ayoo "I don't even play golf but this in my recommended" squad

[@purifyings8314]

Its because of the YoUtuBE aLGorITHm

[@wiggitywombatgang1803]

Me

[@americangirlforever6195]

Not part of your squad. Sorry 😛

[@StuartMawdsley]

Squad meeting this Friday on that other recommended video.

[@SilverCraft15987]

Yes

[@jheckerman]

"a heavier ball would fall out of the air more quickly" guess we're back to the 1500s

[@ihsaryan]

With no air resistance that would be the case. But there is, making drag more pronounced if there is more mass

[@MateusSFigueiredo]

You mistake launching a projectile with letting it free fall.

[@kevinshen9391]

It's just harder to hit far

[@justinc2633]

@@macaddict1337 that isnt because its heavier though, thats because its going slower, and its going slower because its heavier, it isnt falling faster because it's heavier

[@CarlosAM1]

Ever heard of air ressistance?

[@ExoTony]

this is really interesting as it shows an irl example of a sport having what games usually refer to as power creep edit: ah of course nice nerf at the end of the video

[@fangk.7367]

It’s like Yu-Gi-Oh/Cardfight Vanguard/Overwatch but for middle aged men.

[@SiveenO]

inb4 a temporary solution to a years old problem gj

[@werock2002]

Football and basketball are having offensive power creep

[@ECGProductions092]

They balanced the power creep by adjusting the map

[@YukonHexsun]

At least the meta's less complicated, you just use the better ball. No real arguments about it, it's just what you use. Then it becomes more skill based. Can't say I'd mind that kind of thing in games more often, even though I know the different rules and variability is what makes the game more fun for people like me who don't sit around practicing League of Legends for 12 hours a day. I don't know, competitive gaming is rough.

[@Pdawg12314]

0:50 the sound of a driver but he’s using an iron?

[@miniMEGA29]

look at the guy who actually plays this sport. I am too deep into different vox's videos to even go outside!

[@leonsutram]

True

[@-Siwel-]

Saw it too, made me unreasonably mad lol

[@alexgandy2488]

It’s what American shows like the pga tour do a lot

[@Asentro76]

@@alexgandy2488 PGA Tour definitely doesn't do that, and I see no reason as to why they even would. I'm guessing Vox added it

[@dave1927p]

The further we hit the ball, the more expensive the game becomes

[@RewindOfficialDoesMusic]

FORE!!!!!

[@Chizzle69420]

Hahaha, you say that as though golf has ever been cheap

[@gemstonegynoid7475]

I'm not exactly supportive of tending to miles of greenery all for the purpose of being flown over by golf balls

[@adamduerwachter2596]

Too true

[@lau6438]

then there were haires me: ok then there were featheries me: ok then there were gutteries me: ok.... WAT WHAT

[@ailahmashod]

Fewdastrongone tbh me when I’ve read that the first time

[@28russ]

I'd heard of em but I thought they were like wound cat gut or something not a solid bit of sap from like a rubber tree.

[@TheSidwysDrftr]

This is cool but you guys also forgot stuff. The technique Also has changed over time. Another thing is that tour players don't got the farthest in terms of distance but the longest drive players do. For example Mike Austin holds the world record for the longest drive in professional play, driving 515 yards at the Winterwood Golf Course in Las Vegas, Nevada in 1974.

[@adrianredodo]

The end is the best: when you go to the newspaper library, the same thing always happens. You may not remember it, but almost always the debates are the same;)

[@JoeCoughlin]

I'm a huge advocate for golden era golf course design (courses like Augusta National and Oakmont CC). The problem with solutions like Augusta's making holes longer is that it costs A LOT of money, not only when it comes to buying extra property, but also in watering and maintaining that land. Golf already has a sustainability problem that could easily be solved with better allocation of water and fertilizer resources and if the ball were rolled back to the technology of the 1990s, golf courses would be a lot better off. Sure, manufacturers would have to spend a lot of money, but the barrier of entry to playing great golf courses would be much more accessible and golf would have much lesser of a negative impact on the environment.

[@freekbassa]

How would rolling back technology make extremely exclusive and expensive country clubs more accessible?

[@JoeCoughlin]

It doesn't necessarily but there are hundreds of public municipal and public courses around the country that have really good architectural bones and a roll back of technology lays the groundwork for restoration efforts on these courses.

[@xpelta6478]

Golf is one of the only sports that modifies the projectile . Why haven't they changed the puck , football , baseball , tennis ball . The equipment always changes but not the projectile .

[@mtb416]

That Stock News You’re comparing a truly individual sport, golf, to sports that require you to actually square off against an opponent, whereas golf is a game against the course. Considering golfers don’t directly square off with one another as do hockey players, it’s pretty easy to understand why golf is unique in its love of new technologies.

[@xpelta6478]

@@mtb416 Well then the course owners are to blame they should just have to compete against the sport . Every year they should buy 5 yards of land for each hole and compete against engineering firms pumping 10's of millions a year into the golf ball technology alone ..

[@jessehodgesgolf]

Nobody gives Tiger credit for his ability to adapt to the huge change and still rack victories without a gap in that time. He was still that far ahead

[@Kuhiria.]

OK KZbin I CLICKED THE VIDEO NOW STOP PLS

[@claudearchary8600]

KZbin: Feel the algoRhythm

[@TechSupportDave]

right. i hate when i get recommended old videos. I'm a programmer and if there's one thing I can do better than these so called "professionals" is STOPPING SOMETHING FROM HAPPENING IF IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN; no repeat recommendations please omg no annoying.

[@megaagentj2248]

This

[@cheesecake4204]

Man, I love it when you guys avoid politics. This was a great video.

[@dreamonline1996]

I live in Augusta, and can concur that they buy everything around that damn course. Truly a fascinating company

[@kevinmael3862]

Augusta will soon be one big golf course.

[@AndyDickDanny]

Have you heard the news about The National wanting to buy Washington Road all the way down to I-20?!

[@PoloSupreme706]

you guys ever worked for the Masters?

[@dreamonline1996]

Supreme Polo yeah, way back when I was in high school. I worked there 2 years in a row. (junior and senior)

[@shize9ine]

Man the editors at Vox are on point. I had to take a second look at the 0:49 iron swing audio that had a driver swing audio dubbed over. Noticeable to golfers, but not many others will realize.

[@tylerbeal8541]

I noticed IMMEDIATELY and couldn’t get over it the whole video

[@mogwix]

Neat video, but it ended really abruptly. The whole video describes the problem and doesn't really explore solutions, other than "make the course longer". Some courses are extending tee blocks out, while others are just reducing par on some of the holes. It's a little sickening playing a 300 yard par 3. The technology is improving but I'm finding that you don't need to spend top dollar to get some really high performing equipment. I would be really upset if most of the really advanced stuff was behind a pay wall that was outside the budget of the average golfer. Clubs are getting a lot more expensive these days, though, so hopefully things don't trend that way.

[@weir-t7y]

Because it's not actually a problem

[@partygames9288]

That’s why you can choose between different tee boxes like White -The longest Yellow Red And sometimes even orange Wich is for beginners

[@ariavachier-lagravech.6910]

The easiest one in my opinion if all the pros just start playing wii golf instead or any VR golf if it ever come

[@unextro]

What's with the audio? (2:35 etc.)

[@BatteredWalrus]

Glad I'm not going mad i thought i was the only one XD

[@Wimbold]

Subtle signals for brainwashing.

[@sumitgpatil]

I thought that was to tingle the brain so that you can catch something which is more important in the video??

[@nanyabiznus4738]

Which song is it?

[@juch3]

@@Wimbold almost forgot to wear my tinfoil hat, thanks for the reminder

[@WAYAWAYWithAsh]

I'm having audio issues and 2:36 made me think I was going crazy! haha

[@limitedlistener6460]

I thought my headphones were malfunctioning because of that.

[@nanyabiznus4738]

Which song is it?

[@FaizanKhan-dj6pu]

I'm so confused what are people talking about? Whats going on at 2:35

[@sankofax8082]

@@FaizanKhan-dj6pu they prob fixed it.

[@nanyabiznus4738]

They did. It doesn't sound like that any more.

[@theanarchist9733]

"hairries made with hair, featheriess, made with feathers, gutties..." **sweats**

[@lunarservant6781]

“Made with sap provided by the gutta percha” **phew**

[@kmb5707]

It's made with your guts to see how hard you can hit the nut

[@forgottenbasement]

I live in a small city of Russia. There's only mud and asphalt everywhere. Never even saw a proper lawn. But now i know what makes a golf ball fly farther.

[@emptyshirt]

Don't feel bad, lawns are a waste anyway.

[@MadMenPlays]

FearMann I think I would kill myself if I lived in Russia

[@Highhook1818]

If you're in Russia simply drink moar...fear go away.

[@peterpumpkineater5927]

Even with a V1, I can’t hit a solid drive to save my life

[@fedup1940]

It's all in the lag and the lower body torque. That's where the power comes from. Once I learned that I can now drive the ball further!

[@peterpumpkineater5927]

Robert Stone aye. Pretty cool advice

[@DenudationCS]

i capped out at 322 yards with pro V1 and an M1 driver. without that set-up im hitting 280

[@mynameisjeff1446]

The only golf I've ever played is Wii sports golf

[@ArlanKels]

I've always been of the opinion that golf is a sport that's best played, not watched. It's one man against himself, basically, and that doesn't make for exciting watching.

[@hei524]

The only golf I have played is golf gti.

[@duncanmichie1164]

3:18 sounds like they hired the joker for the laugh

[@jackmckeough3052]

Good way to end your video by saying "in the end maybe it just doesn't even matter" lol

[@mcarbeitstitel2673]

Spoiler alert

[@lakshitdagar]

"The club just bought the land behind the tee box to solve the problem." Well that was a waste of time.

[@joesmith389]

The distance argument (balls go too far) only relates to pros. The weekend hackers (99% of all golfers) still skunk it only around 180-220 yards, regardless of any new equipment. Also, there are already rules to limit the distance of both golf balls and clubs (compression/etc).

[@dorkmax7073]

2:55 Thank you for finally teaching me how to say Titleist. I had no idea my pronunciation was so off

[@user-cg9vp9bf5d]

“tittle-east”

[@td1138]

If the ball was the reason why professional golfers are driving it farther, then us recreational golfers would be seeing similar results. If fact, most recreational golfers are driving the ball about the same or maybe a little less than before the ProV1. Do not underestimate the superior training and superior talent of today’s tour players. They drive it farther because they have access to the best trainers, the best coaches, the best launch monitors and the best club fitters.

[@TheNYgolfer]

2 things blow my mind 1. That titleist didn't sponsor this video 2. That Mike Austin hit the longest drive in tournament play at the 1974 U.S. National Seniors Tournament .The drive was done on level ground, using a persimmon wood driver with 10 degrees of loft and a 43.5" extra-stiff steel shaft, the ball was a soft balata and Mike Austin was 64 years old. Chew on that Titleist

[@amosjsoma]

The USGA is responsible for the degradation of the game and the fact that some of the greatest courses in the world are no longer suitable for tournament play. They are supposed to protect the integrity of the game but instead they have allowed equipment manufacturers to destroy the integrity of the game.

[@falahati]

Well, that's the problem with the rules of the game, isn't it? If players can bring their own ball to the tournaments, they sure gonna use the best ball they can find and it's going to be better every year because we make better staff every year. The rule should enforce all players to use a specific ball just like football, basketball or any other professional game.

[@supmojo]

@0:49 that iron shot sounded like a driver shot. Nice audio editing !!!!

[@davidonfim2381]

Easy, just change the rules. Make certain zones, like those above some stands of trees or whatnot, no-fly zones. No need to buy new land, no need to change the course itself, no need to force people to use certain kinds of balls, etc.

[@brianbethea3069]

There's a rule for this in disc golf called a mandatory. A point like a tree is marked, and your path to the basket must at some point pass to whatever side is indicated as mandatory. Multiple different types of penalties--like re-teeing, drop zones, or placing your lie at the point where the flight of the disc past the mandatory--can be used, but that's defined on a hole-to-hole basis.

[@caseysmith544]

So just more ob on the course? That makes sense, It can restrict a players line of choice then.

[@HueyPPLong]

But all those things you mentioned are easier and better than changing the rules of golf. Like pushing the tee back, simple. Then the game itself isn't effected. Because having the balls and skill to take a risky line is a big part of the game right? Just getting to the hole however.

[@jessehodgesgolf]

Oakmont obsolete? It remains one of the hardest courses in golf. Dustin Johnson won the US Open at -4 and Paula Creamer at -3 and Angel Cabrera at +5 in 2007. 😂 come on man. Ever watched golf?

[@grizzlixx]

No one cares about golf

[@rushrush1209]

Spot on. Everybody with some knowledge about golf courses knows that Oakmont is a beast. Not even removing all their trees changed that.

[@RecklessRusty]

@@grizzlixx I do

[@colteasterling]

2021: Now let me introduce you to Bryson DeChambeau

[@wendigo6667]

*Hits ball across lake at Bay Hill.*

[@glytchmeister9856]

Been seeing this kind of thing in lots of sports lately, with equipment innovations making people freak out. Like with swimmers using the synthetic shark skin suits, or with the new Nike running shoes. I get the concern about equipment inequality messing with competitiveness, so banning super duper expensive equipment makes sense, but if everyone has fair access to better equipment, then the sport needs to evolve to accommodate that, instead of arbitrarily restricting the players so they can’t actually achieve greater performance.

[@iscrewy]

I love that even the 1930s article made the "does it go too far?" pun.

[@smeghead666]

4:35 "A heavier ball would fall out of the air more quickly" Now I ain't no physimatrician son, but that right there is wrong.

[@skipeveryday7282]

It would lose momentum more quickly due to the increased force required to make it cover the same distance and so while it would accelerate towards the ground at the same speed as any other ball it would still spend less time in the air all other things equal and so it would "fall more quickly".

[@jamesordner1368]

That’s not how this works That’s not how any of this works

[@tmass1]

i had the same thought here. he means denser. picture a ping pong balls ability to float in the air vs a rock.

[@nicksundstrom7341]

I was thinking the same thing...

[@ninjafruitchilled]

Yeah that was odd phrasing. It will just go less far because it takes more energy to accelerate it in the first place.

[@koshinpillay2046]

The only problem with making courses longer is it adds time to each round. And longer holes would probably only make the game harder for amateurs not pro's.

[@GeoJesse]

The difference would be negligible. Over an 18 hole course you might add 350-400 yards of course at most which might add 10 minutes

[@GeoJesse]

Plus we are only talking about doing these extensions on PGA courses, where anyone playing on those courses aren’t the kind of people who are bothered about a course being hard or not. Half the time PGA courses are more popular the harder they are.

[@malthuswasright]

Amateurs don't tend to play from those back tees that PGA pros use. Or they shouldn't be at least. That's why there are multiple tee positions for different abilities.

[@circleuppclips8784]

as a person that played golf once, i can assure you that 'gutties' were indeed made of stones from the red sea

[@kirbs0001]

4:35 No. A heavier ball would have less velocity imparted on impact with a golf club. it falls at EXACTLY the same rate as a lighter golfball of the same size and shape.

[@EcoDimension]

a heavier ball has a higher terminal velocity...

[@oof-ih8ok]

@@EcoDimension proven by astronauts on the moon. I'm sure that Sasha is right

[@oof-ih8ok]

@@EcoDimension but... i think you're both right i dont study physics

[@michaelstephenson4755]

They aren’t falling far enough to get near falling terminal velocity.

[@eminglewood4593]

This information goes along great with that joint I just smoked. Thanks.

[@localgames1]

No it doesn't.

[@edledskal9147]

@@localgames1 What? It was a subjective comment, not one with a yes or no answer.

[@localgames1]

@@edledskal9147 and I am giving my subjective answer.

[@1pumps]

@@localgames1 he wasn't asking for your opinion, he just wanted to say what he felt, leave him alone

[@localgames1]

@@1pumps And no one asked for his opinion. I'm also saying what I feel. Stupid people everywhere.

[@Forgan_Mreeman]

This sounds like the dirty work of Shooter McGavin

[@jaredpena7543]

FrogLungs see*!! I'm betting every golfer that watched happy Gilmore wanted to try hitting the ball further

[@aoife-oh9si]

Can we all agree the best part of this video is the thumbnail?

[@Pqow-v3y]

You win, KZbin. I’ll watch this video.

[@Thomas-sg4iz]

Vox, did you actually use the Apple Notes app to make the thumbnail?

[@Jadinass]

"that's 20 yards farther than what he was hitting when he was 30" is what really got me in this video

[@_j5126]

Me:Wait it was Kinda pay to win? Them: Always have been

[@100kcameron]

I think the balls and the new technology do help with distance, but as of recent there have been so many courses that just have longer holes. I like the idea of just lengthening courses/adding obstacles rather than trying to change part of the game.

[@penguinlord2837]

Me who is too poor to even think about playing golf: *sees random golf video at 12:00 at night Also me: interesting...

[@supernt7852]

Old golf courses: nooooooo! you can't just cut the corner with a hybrid golf ball! Bubba: haha hybrid ball go piiiing Edit: fixed misspelling

[@JohnDoe-wj1kx]

God forbid the sport should evolve... Probably all these rich golf course owners not wanting to pay so much more in building new courses and the property tax on top of that

[@Alerosme]

I Think i clicked the video because of that sexy thumbnail. I mean why would anyone ever watch a golf video otherwise?

[@fiire_stormm7279]

Albin Meurk tiger woods hitting it pure for 5 min straight.

[@glitchysquid1137]

"Are golf balls going too far?" Me: "Y not just make the green longer?" "They just bought the land behind the field to add to the existing one."

[@hillkillr]

I was about to make a very similar comment.

[@cokeabuser1319]

“The green”

[@FirstLast-ie3kq]

You meant make the holes longer

[@rutger4272]

@@FirstLast-ie3kq no that'd just make it easier to get the ball in.

[@herzog2604]

@@rutger4272 r/wooosh

[@patw.6567]

if you can control it with a remote like a drone then yes.

[@aerodynamicist4]

I can barely hit a 180 yard drive even if I count the ball rolling, it is mind-blowing to see that pros are doing 280. I would think they could hit 400 all day long. Why does it make a difference if they hit the ball "too far?" Isn't that a demonstration of how much the players and materials have improved? I can't believe there was a player that advocated for reduced flight ball. I'm dying to hit 180 on my driver, I need every single yard I can possibly get.

[@c_span]

it matters because its not sustainable for courses to increase their length indefinitely for the rest of time

[@jahreebarber]

Thats just pythagorean theorem that Bubba did, he just chose c squared, quick maths loool

[@sajanpatel4956]

You mean the hypotenuse.

[@GoodCookinAquarius]

Back in my day there was a failed hockey player turned golfer, who could drive the ball 400 yards. One of the biggest underdog stories out there. His name is Happy Gilmore. Not everybody is a fan.

[@wmmiles00]

This is the type of thing I would’ve never been interested in but since it’s in my sub box I’m intrigued. Great video

[@strider029]

The problem is the ball adapts to the course but the course doesn't adapt to the ball, they should redesign golf courses so it doesnt get repetitive and familiar to the players.

[@hurfdurfy8167]

It takes skill to be able to hit that far accurately. I'm not sure why people look down on it.

[@a_real_one2000]

This is a problem with every competitive sport. There will always be science, revolutionary training etc. That aids in the modern athlete in giant tips/tricks. Leaps that those that came before never had. Better science & athletic ability are coming to nexus point. The question is how can one regulate competitive edge vs exporting science for easier gains. We’ll getting to a point where when we compare players from different eras. We need to understand the game is drastically different.

[@justanother6595]

Companies like Titleist also have an incentive to innovate. Therefore, when private companies are making competing products, the technology tends to push forward for profits. And everyone loves new, helpful technology.

[@campkira]

What they did just make the game which is know to be difficult to play already more difficult. I don't golf as much as I used to since it just wear you our. Today is good, tomorrow might be suck.

[@brancheret]

When a golf ad comes in before the actual golf video

[@asmodeojung]

I have never played Gold neither have ever watched a Golf tournament. But this video narration and editing quality made me sit through it. Good job, Vox.

[@10kfloww]

Not interested in golf at all but I watched this entire video

[@hassancohmdan9851]

4:34 heavier balls dont fall out of the air more quickly. It only takes more force to get them as high as light balls.

[@kellymcgregor4759]

Around 1998 callaway came out with big Bertha, the first titanium golf club that was bigger. I believe this also had a effect.

[@strokenumber3]

That was Great Big Bertha, the original Big Bertha was a steel head and came out before that.

[@LTR1420]

For sure. The modern driver plays a much bigger part in this "problem" than the golf ball. Dumbing down the golf ball will do nothing but make the sport less appealing to casual viewers and give even more of an advantage to players that hit it far.

[@scd603]

Golf ball innovation is not only distance. Feel and more importantly spin have been dramatically improved. Spin is especially important for short shots, allowing golfers to stop the ball on the green

[@rushrush1209]

The ball and club technology has improved so much. Also many years ago, it didn't seem like the best athletes chose golf. Now they have stud athletes like Koepka, Dustin Johnson and Woodland.

[@neopolitandotexe]

No matter how the golf ball changes.... Happy Gilmore will always make it in

[@doingmoms3483]

I just watched a video about “Golf Balls”

[@jaclpz]

OilyDumplings - same, and I don’t even play golf

[@brice0403]

This may not be a problem in the future as golf ball technology is reaching its peak. I'd argue most of the distance improvements over the last 4-5 years is due to the newer generation of players training for strength. Golfers used to focus a lot more time on technique rather than fitness, but that's changing due to the sport's new demands for power.