The Gozney Arc VS Gozney Roccbox | Pizza Oven Showdown

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[@somedadscook]

Please allow me to clarify: If during the video, either of the pizza stands out to you as a good choice, Please take away from this video that that oven is the one for you. I hope you rely on the data and not just my opinion. In my decision making, when purchasing something, I rely heavily on price and feel like the Roccbox is a big bang for your buck. Again, I get no financial benefit from you buying either. I just want to give you as much info as possible to help with your decision.

[@dejandejan903]

Roccobox vs Arc XL? 😎

[@mechmat12345]

Yes. As a value proposition, the Roccbox still reigns supreme. But if you want more room and the experience of a side mounted flame, the Arc is about the cheapest thing out there (Ooni Koda is cheaper, but the burner is L shaped, not completely side mounted).

[@jo_aut2090]

Fabulous review! I think I have never seen a review that says everything I was thinking about what I want to know! That's top-notch.👏

[@paulgutzke348]

The roccbox is my favorite outdoor cooking tool. I make 10-11" pizzas, many times we will do up to 12 pizzas. The extra space of the Arc would really be nice for launch and rotate. Thanks for the comparison, you put a load of work into it.

[@beebees4680]

Absolutely fantastic, very orofessional honest and very thorough review. Amazing! Thank you so much for taking the time to do this.

[@somedadscook]

Glad it was helpful!

[@danemmerich6775]

Great information! I like the Roccbox. Can you do a video on the cheaper Amazon ones like for 150 bucks to see how they compare to the best brands.

[@mattrittman]

Thanks for the comparison man! I’m still trying to decide between the Roccbox and the Arc XL. Do you plan on doing that comparison, or would that be too similar to this one?

[@somedadscook]

Might be worth it. There at things about the XL that are better then the Arc

[@dejandejan903]

​@@somedadscookGozney roccobox vs Gozney Arc XL?

[@samoborbeno1462]

Roccobox vs Arc XL!

[@samoborbeno1462]

Fantastic video, detailed, thorough, the best on KZbin. I would love to see a comparison between Roccobox and Arch 16. You have both, why not do it.

[@somedadscook]

Great suggestion!

[@sergio6134]

I had the Roockox oven and honestly didn't like it because of the following reasons: 1. Limited cooking space. 2. Inconvenient to transport. You have to remove the burner, store it separately, and be very careful not to damage or ruin the igniter. 3. The silicone surface is very dirty and stains adhere to it and don't come off with anything. 4. Fresh out of the box it looks great, but with the first baking it's already covered in soot and its front is ruined from being burnt. If you love design and want it to look good at your events, this will disappoint you. You'll have to clean it every time you finish using it. I have an Ooni Koda 16 and I think that because of the cooking space, how easy it is to transport, the stone can be removed and changed, its appearance, and its look, I've always leaned towards the Ooni Koda 16. I'm waiting for the Arc vs Koda 16 comparison. I was excited to buy the Arc but with this comprehensive review I've gradually become disillusioned with the Gozney Arc 🥲 they didn't even include a peel 🫣

[@paulford1249]

Great video content! I have had my roccbox for 4 yrs , I LOVE it( hundreds of pizza cooked!) and have, personally, never had temp results such as this the fastest it has ever got to 850 for me was like 55min. I ordered my arc XL, it is 3 weeks late so far to ship, but I hope you numbers hold true as it would mean no difference from my experience with Roccbox. Thanks for doing what you do!

[@viperlt86]

My theory for the Arc is that it exists not to actually sell, but to push people to the higher price point of the XL. $800 on its own sounds like a ton of money for a casual home cook to spend to make a few pizzas a month, especially when you can get a Roccbox or Ooni for $400-500. But, a 16” pizza oven that is better in every way than a 14” one and is way bigger than the cheap 12” ones on the market, for only $100 more than something that looks the same, sounds like a steal.

[@jamesayers1481]

This is exactly right, although $800 for a home pizza oven isn’t unheard of. Ooni volt is $900

[@mechmat12345]

​@@jamesayers1481lol. Before ooni, you couldn't get a home oven for less than $1500. These are all cheap.

[@myinlawsitsupport972]

And ordering pizza has become quite expensive. We do pizza night every Friday. Will typically spend about $60 each week on pizza. So even if you factor in the cost of supplies to make your own an $800 pizza oven will pay for itself in less than half a year.

[@jamesayers1481]

@@myinlawsitsupport972so 14% of all of your dinners are pizza? That’s dedication

[@badger305]

Aha! ......you've figured out their marketing ploy. Good job.

[@seymourbutts2010]

Great video. These are the honest not bought reviews consumers need. Thanks for the video 🔥🔥

[@somedadscook]

Thank you

[@JPclf1]

Hi! Great reviews, really it's what everybody in the community is waiting for! I preorder a arc xl here in Canada, and waiting for it to get in stock. I have a small cathering bussiness where I use my roccbox for neapolitan pizza for at least 5 years now. The arc xl was for home to replace the roccbox in the backyard. After seeing this and looking at other comment on the community I think I'm gonna cancel my order. I cook great pizza in my roccbox and if I want bigger/NY style the home oven whit a pizza steel is plenty. I'm a bit disappointed I was excited about it! Thanks again for your great work!

[@somedadscook]

Thank you

[@maurogpsvjs]

Greats video my friend. Honest opinión, great graphs to compare multiple aspects that most dont do (heat up time, gas consumption, real cocking Space etc) and you make the comparations that someone like me that want to buy a oven needs. Keep going like this. Of course i suscribe after this video. Regards.

[@somedadscook]

Thank you

[@compprufus]

I love the video. So thorough and with aspects tested that are actually useful. I don't have an pizza oven but before the arc came out, I wanted Roccbox especially for portability (so I thought). And eventhough Roccbox apparently wins all the tests, I am more inclined toward Arc. Or XL rather. I don't need twelve pizzas made at a session, two three tops for me. I don't mind waiting. Arc looks great in my opinion.

[@jancko995]

Man, thanks for giving Celsius!!❤

[@SalvaGian47]

i think that the door on the roccbox helps a lot

[@alex.baskin]

Great comparison! I wish they released a little wider Roccbox instead of the Arcs.

[@Pinkyspizzamccall]

Great video!

[@somedadscook]

Thanks!

[@samoborbeno1462]

The real test for pizza ceteting popup is Roccobox vs Arc XL! We're waiting for the video 😎 This video is amazing!!!

[@somedadscook]

Working on it

[@akaimon3]

Excellent AND HONEST😻review‼️ own a Rockbox, tempted to move up to Src xl solely for the extra room, maneuverability. A fun review would be Arc XL vs Everdure Kiln. Thank you for all you do‼️

[@somedadscook]

Great idea.

[@rcquintanilla06]

I was also having issues with the flame blowing out On the Gozney on a windy day when I had it on Low

[@nedtheprotist]

Thanks!

[@somedadscook]

Thank you

[@nedtheprotist]

@@somedadscook You relieved me of the temptation to buy a new pizza oven. 😅 The side flame of the Arc *does* look pretty cool though!

[@bstreetbistro]

1/3 more time to get to 850 to cook a max pizza 1/3 larger. Seems fair.

[@denoftools]

"Why Gozney released the Arc"? My guess is that it's the replacement for the Roccbox. The RB looks like an Ooni clone and looks nothing like what Gozney is going for with the newer models. The Arc is nearly the same size and weight, it has built in handles and is serviceable, not to mentions looks better.

[@WayneFenton]

Hi Some Dad! I have had a Roccbox since the Kickstarter and recently got an Arc. I cooked on the Arc this weekend and found that it was very similar to the Roccbox in the final result (or so my family told me!). What I really enjoyed was the extra space to launch my pizza. I've had too many disasters in the Roccbox over the years, especially when launched too far to the back and folded up. Time will tell but so far so good. Thanks for this comparison and look forward to some more content.

[@matty5489]

Wayne, You got the Arc14 after just mainly using the roccbox? Even after these reviews, I am still tempted to get the Arc14, instead of the xl for portability and just slightly larger pizzas. Have only owned a roccbox so far, myself. Thoughts on durability of the Arc base, and whether you like the size have second thoughts towards the xl?

[@somedadscook]

Great to hear feedback from those with the arc

[@WayneFenton]

@@matty5489 HI Matty. I did wonder if I'd made a mistake with not getting the XL, but I tried a larger pizza (>12") and that was good in the Arc. I can't see me ever needing to do a 16" so I think the Arc is just right. The extra 'wiggle' room is appreciated for sure. My initial view is that the arc base is good and I felt it got to higher temps than the Roccbox. It certainly cooked my pizzas quicker it seemed. For the extra cash the XL is certainly attractive but the Arc is awkward to move (I have a permanent position for it), so the XL would be difficult. My 2-pence worth.

[@TommysTube]

same to me, i have just received my arc today, the roccbox will stay for always as the perfect outdoor garden/holiday/take away to visit friends pizza oven. For me there was no reason to choose the xl version, most time i will stay with the 12 inch pizzas and enjoy the extra room. The arc looks absolutly stunning, gozney ist simply doing a brilliant job.

[@maurogpsvjs]

My opinión is that the arc is for those who want a portable oven but with some extra space to turn de pizza or make it a little bit bigger without pay 800 dolar. And add the gas control in the front. The digital thermometer is just not as stable because is digital...analog thermometer like the roccbox will be always more stable because dont "feel" every single change of temperature around them.

[@mechmat12345]

I think the point he was trying to make is that the XL is clearly much better and only $100 more. That's a couple nights out at your favorite pizza joint, one if you have kids. There are surely some who will prefer it, but it's a niche within a niche.

[@Nima-sn8bj]

Nice review man, appreciate the content. I think maybe the point of the arcs is to have a product that closes the gap between the roccbox and dome in terms of price, usable cooking space, and design. The XL + stand is a little over 1k, that kinda falls between the roccbox and dome

[@palgarfjell3227]

I feel this is mainly a design thing.. And that is probably why they launched the xl as a more affordable option to the Dome

[@afreaklikemejustneeds]

interesting review! the results of the back to back pizzas in the arc feels weird considering the thicc stone as you said. the more i listen and learn the more i am unsure what to buy. would love to be able to make 3-4 good pizzas in less then 25miutes after heating up the oven. i hope the arc xl with an extra door can handle it. for 16“ is there any oven you would prefere over the arc xl to this date? maybe excluding the dome its just to big. thanks for the awesome videos back to back!

[@somedadscook]

I think Koda 16 is a contender. I am hoping to have that video out Friday

[@dougal6569]

More good work, well done and thanks! 1/ About the Arc thermometer weirdness - if you are seeing it on both models, I wonder whether it might be due to imperfect contact between stone and sensor? Though if turning off and then on again gives a different reading, that points to an error in the digital electronics. From a production perspective, I would expect the Arc and XL display modules to be identical and interchangeable… do your two modules read the same? 2/ I would suggest you hesitate to change any test methodology. Running the same tests allows you to compare Roccbox and XL (like the voices call for) without rerunning the tests on the Roccbox. Same thing when the next hype wave lands, you have the half the comparison done! Of course adding other tests is a different matter…! 3/ Love that you have doors on your house and car…! I think Gozney are reluctant to go along with doors for gas-only ovens, though with enough ventilation for combustion and flame visibility (as well as that flameout gas cutoff) any risk is surely minimal. 4/ I know you think both the Arcs’ gas knobs are kinda loose and clunky, BUT if that is the price to pay for having it at the front (and it nevertheless works OK) then it’ll do. Front flame control is definitely a PRO for the Arcs, back control a CON for the Roccbox (and so many others!) Again - well done! Added - 5/ Here in the UK, where Gozney originates, our domestic gas safety regulations want solidly connected appliances, only to be connected by a certificated technician. It may be as simple as Gozney HQ not recognising the market potential of a natural gas option in the USA. I would think the market was big enough for a “localised” option - just as long as they can make it deliver enough heat (it doesn’t burn as hot as propane). Because Gozney isn’t a massive company, we shouldn’t expect them to deliver a complete ecosystem at launch. Maybe they will in future offer a natural gas Arc version, and don’t want to kill today’s sales by pre-announcing tomorrow’s version? (Though they have had plenty enough time for the Roccbox!)

[@somedadscook]

Great feedback. Thank you for all of that

[@dejandejan903]

I'm contemplating between Roccobox and Arch 16!? Pizza catering, small business vibe? Could you please provide a detailed comparison between these two small ovens?

[@somedadscook]

Will do

[@juancervantes313]

Cool video. Ive been indecisive for so long on my first oven. Was thinking ooni first then i saw roccbox now the arc looks like the way to go. But all the add ons end up costing so much more. Also would any of these 2 be suitable for a condo balcony?

[@somedadscook]

I think any of them would be suitable for a balcony.

[@F.H.-un1oo]

Great review as always! Are you still planning on comparing the Arc XL to the Koda 16? Feel like those are the competing models from each brand.

[@somedadscook]

Yes I am. Should be out Friday

[@P.EVA1]

@@somedadscook Perfect! Those are the 2 I'm comparing and choosing between at the moment.

[@sergio6134]

@@somedadscookhola. Espero con ansias esa comparación. Arc Xl o Arc v/s Onni Koda 16 👏🏻👏🏻🙌🏼❤️

[@sergio6134]

@@P.EVA1yo tengo actualmente el pino koda 16. Quiero saber si invierto en otro koda o si me cambio al arc o arc xl

[@filiphennie7348]

@somedadscook Is it still coming out today? Looking forward to it!

[@JWWW111]

@somedadscook - which one do you think is more versatile for cooking NY and other pizza at a lower temp? Size of the pizza is not something I'm as concerned about vs. the ability to control for a lower temp more easily.

[@rcquintanilla06]

Do you think if you had a door for the Gozney XL Arch will the pizza is cooking will help hold the heat more

[@christopherng2088]

Hey man thanks for doing this review - very timely as I was tossing up against these two. Just a question - did you do the door test on the Arc for getting back up to temp? I know you did it for the Roccbox and you saw the reheat time halved - just wondering if that's the same for the Arc? I would assume so?

[@somedadscook]

We will see. I worked with nu2u on a door but it didn't have enough air flow. So we revised and I should get the new one soon.

[@christopherng2088]

@@somedadscook thanks - I see they just released one a few days ago is this the revised version and have you done any real time tests? i ended up getting an XL

[@somedadscook]

Yes I have. Working on the video now. It cut the time down pretty drastically. Still testing the recovery time on it though.

[@christopherng2088]

@@somedadscook Looking forward to it! Hoping that I can get back-to-back repeatability that's close to the Roccbox

[@dwightking6992]

Which one would you recommend between the Roccbox and Arc XL if someone is really looking to get into pizza making? I understand the XL is $300 more but would it be worth moving up. The inside of the Roccbox just looks so tight to learn to turn pizzas. Thanks, love the videos!!

[@somedadscook]

If the Arc XL is in your budget, I would go with it

[@matty5489]

It's not the turning that tight space will matter on, it's the launch, if you want to do the maximum size pizza Otherwise roccbox has plenty of space, and would be a great way to start out. You might wanna get the roccbox on sale, if you're not in a rush, and decide whether to go all the way to the dome. Or the Arc for portability. But, if you think you'll stop at one single oven, don't need more versatility, or portability, then the XL could make the most sense,

[@samoborbeno1462]

Why Arc XL > roccobox??

[@christerhammarborg2605]

Thank you for testing, i have the same experience about time, but what was the temp outside? all the best // Christer from Sweden

[@somedadscook]

Was about 45 F

[@mlg_olly9293]

Great review, you need to have your son do a camio in every video 😆 the look on your face priceless.

[@somedadscook]

Ha ha ha. I should. Best part was I had no idea he was in it that much until I started editing.

[@Ecohen52784]

Have you tried the Solo Pi Prime?

[@somedadscook]

No I have not.

[@Grumbo1]

+1, I'm stuck between Arc XL and Solo Pi Prime. Great work at usual boss👏👏

[@TheRoughcutvideo]

Really struggling to make my mind up on getting an arc or a roccbox, does anyone feel like they are missing out only having gas on the arc, and not the option for woodfired?

[@somedadscook]

I have the roccbox wood attachment and don't love it.

[@rcquintanilla06]

I just got my Gozney XL Arch and was having issues with ash. What do you recommend I use to clean the oven between pizzas ? Thanks

[@somedadscook]

I will usually use a peel to scrape it toward the back.

[@JPclf1]

Will the nu2u roccbox door will work well whit gozney original mantel or it's a better fit whit nu2u mantel? Thanks

[@somedadscook]

Let me check. I have the original as well

[@somedadscook]

I can't seem to attach pictures here. So I posted it on FB so you can see. facebook.com/share/68s3SDUjjJ9pedPH/?mibextid=xfxF2i

[@YulRun]

Have you tried using Natural Gas with the Arc? I contacted their support and they said it’s not tested for natural gas and that they cannot recommend using it. Which is a bummer, I too have a natural gas hookup at home. I like the arc way more than the ooni from build to aesthetic. But idk if it’s worth going back to propane.

[@somedadscook]

I haven't. I want to really bad

[@YulRun]

@@somedadscook I just ordered to Roccbox, didn't want to pull the trigger on the arc/arcxl til I know I'll use it enough to justify the cost. Hoping someone tests it with Natural Gas, then I won't need to use a propane tank.

[@AMHK1024]

Do you like the Arc XL more than the Roccbox?

[@somedadscook]

For the most part yes. Price and portability are the main draw backs in that comparison.

[@Traumatix685]

Hi, which would out of the two, roccbox and arc be best for Detroit pizza?

[@somedadscook]

The arc could cook a bigger Detroit but temp wise they are very similar

[@AriesSupertramp]

Remember gozney saying it only takes 25 min for the roccbox to be ready? yeah..

[@DirtyDrummer]

Great review. After watching it, I think I will hold off on the Arc XL. I have 2 Roccbox’s, an Ooni Karu16, and a Brevillle Pizzaiolo so I don’t really need it.

[@ditto1958]

Door seems like no brained

[@sjiwork]

Transport the roccbox with the strap it comes with in the box! Not sure if the Ark comes with a strap?

[@Stevo8013]

Your Back to Back test doesn't reflect "real world" usage I've had a Roccbox for 5 years and imagine that most people would use it as i do. Allow it to get to temp, cook pizza, turn roccbox down to low flame, eat pizza, open dough for second pizza top it, turn roccbox back up to high flame and launch, eat, repeat. when used like this the thing is amazing. the only true differenvr seen to be space in the oven.

[@somedadscook]

The test is to reflect how much heat is stored in the stone. So when it's compare to a pizza oven with a thinner stone that would shine thru. Many have also asked if there is an oven that can cook 2-3 in a row really quick when they are cooking for more than just themselves.

[@Nima-sn8bj]

Nice review man, appreciate the content. I think maybe the point of the arcs is to have a product that closes the gap between the roccbox and dome in terms of price, usable cooking space, and design. The XL + stand is a little over 1k, that kinda falls between the roccbox and dome

[@somedadscook]

Good point!