The Great Debate 2020 - Rabbi Manis Friedman vs Rabbi Shais Taub

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[@manisfriedman]

Thank you for watching. What did you think? Let me know

[@NathanHanokaee]

All your videos are amazing, but I think this video deserves a spot on the top 3. Please make more videos like this. Having two different angles/perspectives on a topic really allows the viewer to find their personal truth.

[@LiteralHitter]

How do you say Jewish in Hebrew?

[@LiteralHitter]

One negative overrules every previous wrong done positive command.

[@manisfriedman]

@@NathanHanokaee Thank you. Stay tuned ;)

[@altinokz]

As a pledged Noahide, I watch and learn from all your lectures and learning sessions. This debate was very powerful and made me become more aware of the mitzvas. Even though not all 613 apply to us I feel that it’s extremely important for us to learn and understand because we are with you supporting you, being guided by you, and striving to be a better observants. I would love to watch many more debates like this. And also a couple of people should learn from you on how to properly and respectfully debate. Thank you both and thanks to the facilitators.

[@bitcoinmining6361]

I'm cheering for the Rabbi ;) x

[@manisfriedman]

lol

[@beegood1215]

I loved this, not only did I learn from both Rabbis but it made me think. I love it when something is so interesting that it makes me think.

[@cartersal1693]

When you described why the shofar isn’t blown on Shabbos, your previous points made so much sense, it was really well said and super convincing. It connected incredibly well with everything you said before it, I was amazed and impressed! Both sides were incredible and I understand the commandments on general level much better now thanks to both of you Rabbis. Thank you very much for this!!! PS: your ending statement was absolutely beautiful!

[@joeluna7729]

Each time one of the Rabbis spoke I said "Wow. He is right!" And I went back and forth until my head hurt, and I yelled "Teiku already! Tishbi got this!" 🤣

[@altinokz]

I’m rooting for the Rabbi! 😉

[@grannykiminalaska]

I saw this and based on my limited experience with Jewish ppl thought "WHAT?" OMG this exceeded my expectations ❤ Such a polite debate

[@dannycohn8512]

Welcome to the truth

[@grannykiminalaska]

@@dannycohn8512 but a day later I saw a rabbi saying the point of circumcision is the pain. The pain is the gift to god. The pain is the mitzvah Yep, I found the truth all right. All religion is crap.

[@elanleonard4772]

@@grannykiminalaska Ah yes. A singular opinion from an unnamed source who might not even really be knowledgeable on the subject is representative of the whole, right?

[@grannykiminalaska]

@@elanleonard4772 To which opinion are you referring?

[@crzymonkey64]

@@grannykiminalaska There is a reason 20% of noble prize winners are Jewish. There is something to their teachings, and if you look, you will find a fountain of wisdom. It does not mean you will agree with everything you hear, but as Bruce Lee changed martial arts with his phrase. Take the good and discard the bad. There is much good to take from Judiasm Granny Kim.

[@hayetzerhara8571]

When HaShem is saying don’t,then he is pruning. He is saying cut off this yourself and I promise you will grow somewhere else so that you will be grateful. When he says do, he is saying what you need to grow! HaShem is the God of Life, not Death!

[@myopinon74]

👏🏼Beautifully and simply put.

[@westar1234]

That’s real good

[@dinushblau4247]

Incredible ❤️❤️❤️ I'm speechless. Rabbi Manis is SUCH a Chossid!!!

[@DrKaii]

Two angels debating, it will be as sweet as watching the amoraim debate in Gemara, like menschen full of ahavah

[@ejpla3591]

Indeed

[@marcs8395]

Small problem one has a history of being a heretic

[@balurmoshiyakgova2261]

May Hashem bless you!!!

[@AlexanderBor670]

Yes ,one is certainly heretic

[@hdonstraight]

Lol thats stretching it...

[@levitauber7781]

Thank You. The debate was very entertaining and informative. Looking forward to seeing you in Costa Rica. I’d like to add a point that I heard from the Skulener Rebbe (R’ Yisroel Avrohom) Z”L a number of times. The posuk says “Because there should be his fear (of hashem) on your faces, so you wouldn’t sin”. The main battle with the Yetzer Hora is on the don’ts. most people have no issue with Tfilin, Esrog, sukko etc. but the real challenge and test is with the don’ts. Another point that relates to your closing arguments. For several weeks in March - April, I davn’ed without a minyan, missed Krias Hatorah and had my phone open on Shabbos (I was instructed by a Rov to do so). Based on your closing arguments, the focus is not on whatever you do or doesn’t do, the focus is, what does hashem want from me now? It’s not about me doing mitzvas, it’s about living in hashem’s world and do as he says. If this is his will, than I am happy to do so.

[@tamirudejene3725]

speechless...I'm humbled by their way of keeping balance between respect for each other and push against the point.

[@ishalocke1123]

Awe! Your intro 7 minutes remind me of a fabulous talk on the Shema - how much love and heart are mentioned in the first couple verses. Where it all starts, and ends. About the debate - so true that we all can have different angles/views on any subject, and all be correct. What a gift to discuss, share, disagree, and laugh. Toda raba. BH

[@ketherwhale6126]

This was so very much fun to watch! Both Rabbis had great points and really know their Torah upside down and backwards. But entertaining as it was, R. Friedman won me over in the end. But a great and wonderful debate. Think of another contentious topic and I’ll be there.

[@stevenkoenig4218]

Rabbi Friedman is amazing, WADR the other Rabbi does not touch me...

[@jonkomatsu8192]

Wow. This was even better than I expected! And I was all prepared to be Team R' Friedman. But R' Taub rocked his arguments wonderfully! Thanks so much for posting this. Baruch Hashem! Mahalo shalom! ✡️🤙

[@eli2443]

Both very knowledgeable rabbis..i like rabbi shais taub though on this one ..he took to the challenge

[@franchise.licensing.institute]

Rabbi Mani's summation is extraordinary! Particularly that King David analogy and how it intercepted with the people in the temple. That was beautifully and wisely said!

[@claywithers523]

Fascinatingly polite debate, thank you all for the experience.

[@lizgichora6472]

Don'ts give a deeper understanding of the why not, whilst the do's complement them by what makes it relevant. The answer in the question.This is so revealing and beautifully taught, thank you very much.

[@manisfriedman]

Thank you for watching and for the very kind words! God bless you

[@vivianclaiborne7653]

@Liz Gichora, It truly is beautiful, awesome!! I found Revelation 2:9, and 3:9, great, you'll find them just as beautiful. Liz, I found Deuteronomy 28:15-68, absolutely mind blowing. Genesis 15:13-14, these are connected, see if you can make sense of them. Bless you Liz.

[@herbcody9667]

Dissecting positive and negative into daily human existence Ahhhh! How refreshing and obviously a pre-requisite

[@RevRichard3rdJD]

I love these guys so much. When I'm hurting even their voices bring hope. As a lawyer I really enjoyed the debate.

[@suninapawaroo3024]

I just love Rabbi Friedman he is awesome

[@bitcoinmining6361]

A great debate, respectful and coherent.......a bit like Trump v Biden OMG lol...:)

[@phillanderdatsons4625]

Thank you for NOT sitting 6 feet apart.

[@sarakaplan3396]

I think the debate took place last summer!

[@ris2914]

Thank you both Rabbis! Very inspiring! ‏בשורות טובות

[@manisfriedman]

You're very welcome! Thank you so much for watching

[@lipazdotan4021]

Sitting home, recovering from Covid19, gave me a great gift of listening to wise words! Thank you, Kvod HaRav!

[@vivianclaiborne7653]

@Lipaz Dotan, read these words of wisdom. Revelation 2:9, and 3:9. The ""Torah,"" is what we live by, from Genesis, to Revelation. Deuteronomy 28:15-68, God is speaking to his people, who will be slaves in a Strange Land. God told Abraham, in Genesis 15:13-14, He's was going to punish His people, for their disobedience. Where are these people God is telling Abraham is talking about? Are they the lost tribes of Israel? Are they in Israel, but no one knows who they are? I have many questions, hope some one can help. Thanks Lipaz.

[@naomistarlight6178]

@@vivianclaiborne7653 Revelation is a Christian book

[@gilbertbloomer586]

Such an interesting and civil discussion/debate. This is dispute for the kingdom's sake.

[@moilyas2817]

Rabbi Friedman is clear winner in this debate because his explanation goes in the publics mind quickly and easily, he is cool relaxed and funny with jokes, the debate do not overwhelm him, with respect the other rabbi with numbers will make great sense to People like him but me jeo public none Jewish,none religious, etc, you have to make us understand,it's was love at first site to the wisdom and the way explained by Rabbi Friedman, hours of his lectures are ok and good, enjoyed by me, but five minutes of lectures by other greats are pain and to much, hence I turn off lectures👍🌹💞🌠

[@YishakFetllwork]

all three are amazing!

[@soniapb7456]

This is so lovely! The first debate I have ever enjoyed!

[@soyadaracondios129]

Excelente!!!! Un Abrazo from Puerto Rico!! Where’s the link to join the Wednesday conversations??

[@user-oi6gw4xw3p]

you can NOT clean your boots before you walk out of the mud. get it?

[@papilephoto4901]

It depends who's looking at it. One can say you stop doing bad by stepping out of the mud. And on the other hand one can say you start doing good by stepping out of the mud.

[@user-oi6gw4xw3p]

@@papilephoto4901 the mud = the bad .

[@mehdi3580]

What does that mean? Can you clarify it please.

[@user-oi6gw4xw3p]

@@mehdi3580 just a thought. a parable. the mud is likened to bad . you can not clean your muddy boots until after you stop walking in the mud. [If you continue walking in the mud theres not much use in cleaning and shining them]. first you need to stop doing the bad. Of course this is not always true in life. the parable doesnt always apply. sometimes doing good/positive things will help a person to stop doing bad/ negative things

[@mehdi3580]

@@user-oi6gw4xw3p Ahh ok i understand now, this is true yes. You must change in order to become a holy person, we all know this.

[@musicman1770]

I love the story about Zeidy Friedman. Wow! Thank you Manis.

[@pinedastaglio6500]

The moderator is obviously biased on Rabbi Friedman!

[@lillianyuan1469]

Thanks to the two Rabbis for bringing up this interesting and important theme for debate. I am for Rabbi Friedman for sure. The reason is that, when we don't do what we don't do, we already DO what we don`t do. When we Do good, we are not doing what is bad. DO is always greater than Dont, for DO covers "Don't" , which means positive covers negative. When we keep Shabbat, we are doing "Don't break the Shabbat Day". When a car is driven forward (positive), it already includes the resistance force =backward = negative. The negative always serve the positive.

[@theresefournier3269]

I concur Lillian.

[@dagmawitnegussie737]

Great teaching as always Thann you rabi Friedman

[@ElmwoodParkHulk]

These are two wonderful master debaters .

[@bitcoinmining6361]

Does and don'ts.....is another paradox of life.....If you do good, more often than not, you will not see see, unless very astute, the result of the positive action. But usually you will see direct result of don't do good...A simple example....We teach our children all these ways to live....In modern day life an example can be seen in teaching a child how to cross the road.....If you 'do' teach them well, you will never know the crossing where they get knocked over, but you will know about it, if you 'don't' teach them sufficiently of the dangers

[@UncleJake81]

This blew my mind! I loved it so much because both sides are right and I learned so much! Thank you very much

[@mehdi3580]

Hi i am muslim, i didn’t understand the debate. What are they debating about?

[@ReggiD]

Superior and humble debating. I loved the synthesis and concluding remarks by rabbi Friedman.

[@dhannt5875]

Baruch Hashem Toda for both amazing Rabbis with Do and Don’t session as non Jew I have learnt from both side where is not important about me rather how to create a meaning life that matter first, He is a needy ONE ☝️ and I am needed on my Mitzvah connection with the creator. שלום Yom Tov 🌈

[@williamschall9124]

Rabbi.... remember it is easier to ask for forgiveness, than to ask for permission...!!... love your debate... The Episcopalian in Boca.... come to South Florida and Speak....

[@angbandart]

Taug changes the framework though.. There are no negative things, that is a misconception. The negative is a lack of Godliness. Right Rabbi Manis?

[@Nuka0915]

A cogent and fascinating debate. I honestly agree with both on most of the part, but I in the end went with R. Friedman because he won the first argument, and it was an excellent closing, of course in my opinion. 👏☺️😇

[@chuki6545]

IT IS A JOY LISTENING TO YOU BOTH...and the irony and the sweetness between you Rabbies is beautiful. Anyway I am with Friedman Rabbi

[@zenodotusofathens2122]

These types of approaches to Judaism drive me nuts. With the mystical numerology and splitting of hairs makes me want to run to Christianity, Buddhism, or Hinduism. After thousands of years even Jews of the same Hassidic group cant agree. Rabbi Taub with his numerology just sounded so off the derech.

[@DjoleBravo]

In all fairness, bringing home flowers to your spouse just because you like bringing flowers, all the while you forgot the birthday, is still a don't, because you forgot about the birthday. And the spouse not bringing flowers but still remembering the birthday... How does that work, how did the spouse actually remember and not brought anything, in what way did the spouse show appreciation by simply remembering? So, both are don'ts in different ways.

[@DxmimundobizarroxD]

Great great debate. I've been reading everyone's comments and I agree with what I've read so far. I'm gonna make a comment from a different perspective. I feel like this is the "elephant in the room." I know the political climate we live in, so I do not at all mean to be offensive. Does the mediator come across a bit snippy, "sassy," or a bit bossy? The two rabbis, I feel, are a lot more gentlemanly/kind/relaxed. In case someone mentions that it's because she's the mediator, I don't see that as an excuse. The Rabbis are Orthodox Rabbi Jews, and a lady seems to be leading them, or holding power over them, which I thought was a no no. I am super new to Judaism (currently a Noahide), and I'm likely missing something. If you respond, please be kind; I promise I mean no offense nor do I desire to cause strife. I'm very ignorant to many things, and like to ask questions. Thank you. I won't get into a debate, since we just saw one. :-)

[@supershmueli]

Women aren’t subservient to men in Judaism. There are many who believe it, but it’s not. A woman can be a moderator , just not sing in front of them (kol isha). She can be a moderator

[@_deut6.9]

I love people. who they are and how they are for no reason. i find people fascinating. we meet so many people over the course of our lives, we build relationship and memories, love and kindred connection... then there comes a bizarre collective arragements and circumstance : two people are put in a disagreement/conflict. Act of self ambition and thoughts arise within that specific time in order to protect their cognitive understanding of living (comfort). a the tunnel vision of self serving as a way of regulating their nervous system is what breaks the connection usually in forms of slander to validate themselves. the ability to discern between God's direction vs personal desire. We're often wedged between complex scenarios. Without consequence of action we take for ourselves to solve an emotional/mental/physical state in that specific situation... there would be no end to things we grab for to make decisions to protect our "lives". We grow and learn that not all things we want and love are good for us. God designed us to love as the essence of who HE is but its the fruit of good and evil that sin which separated us from Him that make judgement on what is good and not good. He created the don't so we see the fruit of what He had in mind later. He's trying to babysit baby tornados everywhere constantly taking because we cant hear from Him unless we have a relationship with Him. Love and faithfulness despite the differences/preferences/temperance and long suffering for another person and being able to die to ourselves for love in action rather than feeling, regarding another above ourselves understanding "boundaries" honors God because He reasoned with us like this (Yeshayahu 1:18). He didn't have to show us anything in all His glory and wisdom but He helps us to see not all things are beneficial. To learn to live by faith and to lean in to hear Him makes a marriage like compromise to stay the path. He makes a way, not our personal fleshly desires. Love not out of obligation, and love has plenty "don'ts" because we learn to reason with wisdom and understanding. It reciprocal in that " I respect and love you" despite our differences. I don't do things I want because I love you more than this this conflict and the emotion of discomfort is temporary"... I loved this debate.

[@carolynreeves475]

Sounds to me it’s about having a sense of balance between the the two. And using our G*d given freedom of choice in a godly fashion. That’s true freedom from bondage of self!😊

[@naomistarlight6178]

Idk if you map it onto human relationships, it's like, you have to have both, they're like the two wheels of a bicycle. But isn't it true that what you do will always have a greater impact on the other person's feelings than what you refrain from doing? I mean in all relationships between people, it will almost always be necessary to remember to refrain from doing certain things they don't like. And refraining from specific things you know they don't like on an individual level that are highly unique to them? Yes that might be a nice romantic gesture? But most people are not going to notice a romantic gesture in the form of not doing something. Most romantic gestures that matter to the recipient are deeds. And I feel like if following religion is about showing God how much we care, then isn't it more important to do positive deeds? I mean how much would you be impressed with a suitor who merely refrained from doing things you didn't like? Where are the love stories where the women are like "he showed up at my apartment and it was so romantic how he did not call my sister a bitch the whole night"? XD

[@haemeth42]

I see two great Rabbis, Mishna Avot says anything that is not for the sake of heaven will not last . Both Rabbis have the wisdom of God.

[@SonnyShalom-sz7ge]

Hi rabbi how come the 365 don't dues the consequences for them in the Torah are much more significant like all the misos bes din Malkus etc ty

[@houseofraministry5291]

This debate sounds interesting but the Jewish terminology on ceremony I'm lost.

[@sectmg9203]

One side is don't that's a sin conscious, the other side is due this is a Mitzvah conscious color I love both of you rabbis I love you both Rabbi Friedman is my brother by I love you both I choose not one apple for the next

[@jeffreyrwilliams9345]

thank you. superb

[@Jorge-mg7or]

Why can't a person start doing both Mitzvahs at the same time as they learn how to do them or simply learn about them?

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture6080]

They can and should, the debate format Is just satire in order to teach about the mitzvos

[@PURPLEHAZE30000]

Wonderful and thought provoking. I loved this. Thank you.

[@LisaRichards_123]

I saw the photo, and it was like Tzadik versus Tzadik!!!!!!!

[@qmydee1481]

Excited ♡

[@ezras7997]

We love you both well, really great

[@truemanrep3267]

who can they be called commandments when God gave you guys grace with animal sacrifices?

[@chanaglanstein4689]

I can't believe that both of these rabbis did not learn the gamara in Shabbos. A positive commandment pushes away a negative commandment only when it is exactly at the same time and when there is a lack of other factors. For instance. Shabbos is a positive and a negative commandment. The Gamara acknowledges this and reverts to the verse "b'yom" of B'yom Hashmeenie." The word "yom" is extra and is there to tell us yom, even if that yom is Shabbos. So, Rabbi Friedman the premise for your argument is false from the beginning. You have to use a different approach.

[@shhiknopfler3912]

Was about to write this.

[@joross6679]

Rashi and toisfos always argued but still on the same page

[@panagiotiskostastheoktisto6709]

Lol Everything god said has happened so why would you take the shall not as negative we should thank him for god said it and we cannot do it

[@kimanthonyvitug3863]

Thank u for the knowledge and wisdom.. Am yisrael chai.

[@duttiandjoyce]

Rabbi 1000%❤️

[@AV-nq8zn]

The best debate of the season :)

[@pinedastaglio6500]

Taub is biblical than Friedman

[@i8dpie]

It's amazing-they are both 100% correct!

[@EinSofQuester]

I think a negative mitzvah is more important than a positive mitzvah. Do not kill is more important than keep the Shabbat

[@chaimmneiman3567]

The fact that you post it even if rabbi taub won the vote lol

[@dinushblau4247]

איזה עונג להקשיב לרב פרידמן ❤😊

[@naomistarlight6178]

Now I'm just trying to imagine the shenanigans that would lead one to steal a sukkah

[@OscarPalet]

Wow it's amazing teacher, thanks so much..

[@GigiAbbi-cu9qn]

Since the universe does exist and there is reality, not doing is doing there for rabbi taub is right

[@AngelLPena]

Rabbi Friedman is very charismatic, but Rabbi Taub is right.

[@dannyrosenberg4175]

love it. more of these things.

[@janwallisa6877]

I absolutey loved this and shared it with many. Shalom

[@oliverkellum3429]

I think the Rabbi won to be honest.

[@simchargoldish]

If negative mitzvahs are more important than why should the neshama bother to come down here?

[@yankykahana6304]

That was Rabbi Friedman’s ending argument

[@simchargoldish]

@@yankykahana6304 i thought more about this and have come to the conclusion that there are three levels in negative commandments 1. up in heaven where it isn" t even possible. 2.down here if it isn' t a test 3. when it is a test and you have to prevail over it..the third,even though it is a negative mitzvoh, requires motivation just like a positive mitzvoh. now that can only be in a low place like this world where G-dliness is hidden.who in their rignt mind would do anything that G-d doesn,t want if you see him standing there?

[@jeannshimiyimana2319]

If I was Rabbi Shais, I would say that you can do something that yiu should DO, DOs only when you are not doing what you supposed not to do, DON'Ts which means Don'ts are greater. Hhhh but I love the connection made. Personally, I think they are altogether greater.

[@myopinions1]

Shais is good.

[@abbaashourzadeh2084]

if shabbos is holy enough that you dont need to blow shofar how come the gemara in succah says if we have a beit din we do blow and the Rif himself would blow?

[@chaimmneiman3567]

He said before that it's from chasidus

[@abbaashourzadeh2084]

@@chaimmneiman3567 but he said that you dont NEED to blow but we clearly see you DO need to, just not allowed to

[@chaimmneiman3567]

Listen to the closing remark he says over there something from the rabbi about it

[@abbaashourzadeh2084]

@@chaimmneiman3567 didnt help

[@JehudaEwert]

If from a house the walls are negative (limiting the size of the house) and the roof is positive (protecting the limited space and connecting the walls, like in the most rudimentary house, like a sukka) indeed the s'chach seems to be more important. But without walls, the roof is the floor. In the entrance of Friedmann (the missed tehilim), why was the neder lost? Because in the Shil apparently, some didn't respect the negative commandments.If I support a mitsve, or I even only open the door to a mitsve .(e.g. positive 202 includes not only to help, but also to see. Originally we say, to wait for being asked to help, as smothering with what you think might help means not to watch, not to care what the other needs and only to care to show off virtue.But many tsadik im pels first oblige others to only speak positive, thus never report a problem. That is equal to demand you next to blindfold you before asking if you see a person in need, it simply means you prevent the fulfillment of the command.), if I make the necessary for a mitsve to happen, it is known that I'll get the equal reward as the person I enabled. Every shabbos you have is enabled by being born and taught Yiddishkeit to those that taught you, your saba taught your tate, who therefore can teach you, which results in shabbatot observed several generations after the first mitsve. Equally goes the chain from an avere (as Mishna Sanhedrin concludes from bereshis "damim" of Abel, that Cain killed potential offspring that Abel might have had, concluding that saving one life is saving one world, but also extinguishing one life is destroying a whole world).HOw many tehilim might have been said if Cain had observed the negative command (not to do), the prohibition of murder? It's like the absurdity to think of our generation worse as we are the heel. Without a heel, the body falls on the forehead. The negative commandments enable the positives, never the other way around.

[@elianiisrael414]

I want to do teshuvah in positivo and negative and so on....what to do?

[@deniskiendrebeogo8596]

Hello guys, can anyone recommend me an exorcist in USA ? Thank you in advance .

[@minhashamayim4824]

You do not need an exorcist. Nobody needs an exorcist anymore, for Inferno is empty נאם יהוה. What you need is the Almighty to heal you from whatever needs healing. Be patient, all in יהוה time, for now endure what you need to endure.

[@JRock1900]

The ENDING is the best part. But one cannot appreciate the END unless they listen to the entire “debate”. Rabbi Friedman sums it up very well. I was very impressed by the humbleness of these two brilliant people. Both made TRUE arguments and Rabbi Friedman summed it up very well

[@trevorsanimereleases1207]

I want ask something that might sound logically stupid and impossible about GOD. Now the question is do you believe that GOD is infinitely powerful and can do anything? and if you do believe that GOD is infinitely powerful and can do anything, can he therefore do the logically impossible like make it rain and not rain at the same place st the same time?🧐

[@diedonner299]

I thought you were heading toward “can G-d make something more powerful than himself?”.... but your question is just as thought provoking. I think .... Of course he can. Certainly the human mind does this similarly all the time. Think about when you recall dreams, and then try to describe them to someone else. “I was in a car but it wasn’t a car it was actually a horse but still it was a car....” “I was walking with you in the park but it wasn’t you it was your sister, yet it was you and not your sister...and while we were walking it was raining but it really wasn’t raining....” See? Whatever conceptions the mind is capable of producing certainly G-d is capable of infinitely more.

[@trevorsanimereleases1207]

@@diedonner299 well your example is quite practical and somewhat rational. 😁

[@trevorsanimereleases1207]

@@diedonner299 well your example is quite practical and somewhat rational. 😁

[@victoriapapesh6892]

The 10 COMMANDMENTS are EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.... but even greater than the 10 COMMANDMENTS is LOVE ONE ANOTHER.... for if you love one another then you won't do anything bad to anyone and break the commandments.... I am not religious... I was raised Catholic but do not believe everything all religions say... After reading everything about different religions I have found some TRUTHS in ALL.... Everything is based on LOVING ONE ANOTHER..

[@meatballjerrow]

So simple yet so profound

[@hellwithit]

First man made sense. Second man- not so much!

[@triciafeld8897]

Clear as a blue sky with no humidity! Did you second guess a woman’s response? I am one. So here ‘tis. In the example of the husband coming home with a dozen roses and three hours late, I’ll wonder about why she wouldn’t say, “Busy day, dear?”, if it happened as an odd occurrence. I think trust is very important. Hurt feelings stemming from insecurity and lack of trust is the assumed norm in the explanations. I perceived what was said as his guilt. I don’t see the seriousness or assumed guilt. There is a reality and we need to be present and focused to see it.

[@daniomdt3660]

Wonderful "debate" between two ribbis, I know of great rabbi who answered this way - the greatest of the 613 laws is this : Shema uzrael Adonay Elehinu Adonay Echad! thus love Adonay with all your heart mind and soul ! This is the greatest commandment of them all, the second close to it is : love your neighbor as yourself! On these two laws hang all other laws. So since both of them are "positive laws" the DOS are greater than the don'ts . This answers the question sufficiently since the 365 don'ts and the 248 do's are derivatives of the most holy name of Hashem , they are truly One compound , one can not do without the other. But one can point out the greatest as being one with the highest ideal of the law.

[@minhashamayim4824]

The bulk of our relationship with ADONAI is what we shall not do simply because the Almighty told us a lot of things that we are not to do? How many thing is that? 7/10 = 0.7. As for quantitative and qualitative, is not the same thing. You cannot imply that the abundant impurities make the actual chemical product qualitatively pure. Same with the ore of gold, it is impure in itself and men use fire and sulphur to remove the impurities from gold to purify gold and silver, so that what by mass was quanitaviley 2 tons of impurity for 8 kg of gold, qualitatevly no chemist that is purifying gold is concerned with what number of different impurities there are in the gold, the whole point of purification is to remove everything, except gold, same with the Law of Love, remove everything that is not required, so that all that shall remain is LOVE. So how many thing thou shalt DO? Love your God, hhhmmm, how can you love That what you do not know? Love your neighbour, that's something you can do for sure, so how many DO's are in Thou shalt love thy neighbour as yourself? Buy roses for your wife, tell her you gonna be late from work tonight, steal from the Nazis to feed the hungry children in the concentration camps, lie to the Gestappo to save human lives, don't keep the Shabbat to climb a mountain to save another human life, when people are killing you ask the Almighty to forgive them, when people are persecuting you, pray for them, when they curse you, bless them, when someone is thirsty give him/her some water, when someone is blind and cannot see, open their eyes, so they can see the light, when someone is deaf, open their ears, so they can actually hear the message of the Truth. The best one after the Anointed One that put it is Moshe himself, he said "Bless ye the God of heaven, give glory to him in the sight of all that live, because he hath shewn his mercy to you. For it is good to hide the secret of a king: but honourable to reveal and confess the works of God. Prayer is good with fasting and alms more than to lay up treasures of gold: For alms delivereth from death, and the same is that which purgeth away sins, and maketh to find mercy and life everlasting. But they that commit sin and iniquity, are enemies to their own soul. I discover then the truth unto you, and I will not hide the secret from you. When thou didst pray with tears, and didst bury the dead, and didst leave thy dinner, and hide the dead by day in thy house, and bury them by night, I offered thy prayer to יהוה. And because thou wast acceptable to God, it was necessary that temptation should prove thee. And now יהוה hath sent me to heal thee, and to deliver Sara thy son's wife from the devil. Peace be to you, fear not. For when I was with you, I was there by the will of God: bless ye Him, and sing praises to Him. I seemed indeed to eat and to drink with you: but I use an invisible meat and drink, which cannot be seen by men. It is time therefore that I return to him that sent me: but bless ye God, and publish all his wonderful works."

[@DHSplate]

You can do whatever you want for your spouse, what you can NOT do is cheating on her. She will NOT forgive you ever. Same for Hashem, do NOT worship idols, Hashem does not tolerate that, regardless all the positive mitzvot you would do. The DONT outweighs the do.

[@mariespeaksg-dsgrace]

Wonderful Wonderful Wonderful 😊

[@shhiknopfler3912]

Great discussion. Both sides can have some truth. עשה דוחה לא תעשה. From the other hand שב ואל תעשה... Rabbi Friedman brings up the Creation to prove his side but Chazal have discussed it already טוב שלא נברא משנברא. Sabbath is a עשה ולא תעשה. And Circumcision is allowed for different reason it's from an Extra word in the Verse. But it's still true עשה דוחה לא תעשה. כה לחי. כל טוב.

[@lukasfilipsky31]

Even though I am an atheist, I enjoyed this debate. Both of you are wrong and both of you have clever arguments. People with totaly oposit opinions can discuse peacefuly. That's a great message.