The Great Debate 2020 - Rabbi Manis Friedman vs Rabbi Shais Taub

[@manisfriedman]

Thank you for watching. What did you think? Let me know

[@NathanHanokaee]

All your videos are amazing, but I think this video deserves a spot on the top 3. Please make more videos like this. Having two different angles/perspectives on a topic really allows the viewer to find their personal truth.

[@LiteralHitter]

How do you say Jewish in Hebrew?

[@LiteralHitter]

One negative overrules every previous wrong done positive command.

[@manisfriedman]

@@NathanHanokaee Thank you. Stay tuned ;)

[@altinokz]

As a pledged Noahide, I watch and learn from all your lectures and learning sessions. This debate was very powerful and made me become more aware of the mitzvas. Even though not all 613 apply to us I feel that it’s extremely important for us to learn and understand because we are with you supporting you, being guided by you, and striving to be a better observants. I would love to watch many more debates like this. And also a couple of people should learn from you on how to properly and respectfully debate. Thank you both and thanks to the facilitators.

[@cartersal1693]

When you described why the shofar isn’t blown on Shabbos, your previous points made so much sense, it was really well said and super convincing. It connected incredibly well with everything you said before it, I was amazed and impressed! Both sides were incredible and I understand the commandments on general level much better now thanks to both of you Rabbis. Thank you very much for this!!! PS: your ending statement was absolutely beautiful!

[@lipazdotan4021]

Sitting home, recovering from Covid19, gave me a great gift of listening to wise words! Thank you, Kvod HaRav!

[@vivianclaiborne7653]

@Lipaz Dotan, read these words of wisdom. Revelation 2:9, and 3:9. The ""Torah,"" is what we live by, from Genesis, to Revelation. Deuteronomy 28:15-68, God is speaking to his people, who will be slaves in a Strange Land. God told Abraham, in Genesis 15:13-14, He's was going to punish His people, for their disobedience. Where are these people God is telling Abraham is talking about? Are they the lost tribes of Israel? Are they in Israel, but no one knows who they are? I have many questions, hope some one can help. Thanks Lipaz.

[@naomistarlight6178]

@@vivianclaiborne7653 Revelation is a Christian book

[@tamirudejene3725]

speechless...I'm humbled by their way of keeping balance between respect for each other and push against the point.

[@dinushblau4247]

Incredible ❤️❤️❤️ I'm speechless. Rabbi Manis is SUCH a Chossid!!!

[@RevRichard3rdJD]

I love these guys so much. When I'm hurting even their voices bring hope. As a lawyer I really enjoyed the debate.

[@bitcoinmining6361]

I'm cheering for the Rabbi ;) x

[@manisfriedman]

lol

[@hayetzerhara8571]

When HaShem is saying don’t,then he is pruning. He is saying cut off this yourself and I promise you will grow somewhere else so that you will be grateful. When he says do, he is saying what you need to grow! HaShem is the God of Life, not Death!

[@myopinon74]

👏🏼Beautifully and simply put.

[@westar1234]

That’s real good

[@beegood1215]

I loved this, not only did I learn from both Rabbis but it made me think. I love it when something is so interesting that it makes me think.

[@franchise.licensing.institute]

Rabbi Mani's summation is extraordinary! Particularly that King David analogy and how it intercepted with the people in the temple. That was beautifully and wisely said!

[@ishalocke1123]

Awe! Your intro 7 minutes remind me of a fabulous talk on the Shema - how much love and heart are mentioned in the first couple verses. Where it all starts, and ends. About the debate - so true that we all can have different angles/views on any subject, and all be correct. What a gift to discuss, share, disagree, and laugh. Toda raba. BH

[@grannykiminalaska]

I saw this and based on my limited experience with Jewish ppl thought "WHAT?" OMG this exceeded my expectations ❤ Such a polite debate

[@dannycohn8512]

Welcome to the truth

[@grannykiminalaska]

@@dannycohn8512 but a day later I saw a rabbi saying the point of circumcision is the pain. The pain is the gift to god. The pain is the mitzvah Yep, I found the truth all right. All religion is crap.

[@elanleonard4772]

@@grannykiminalaska Ah yes. A singular opinion from an unnamed source who might not even really be knowledgeable on the subject is representative of the whole, right?

[@grannykiminalaska]

@@elanleonard4772 To which opinion are you referring?

[@crzymonkey64]

@@grannykiminalaska There is a reason 20% of noble prize winners are Jewish. There is something to their teachings, and if you look, you will find a fountain of wisdom. It does not mean you will agree with everything you hear, but as Bruce Lee changed martial arts with his phrase. Take the good and discard the bad. There is much good to take from Judiasm Granny Kim.

[@joeluna7729]

Each time one of the Rabbis spoke I said "Wow. He is right!" And I went back and forth until my head hurt, and I yelled "Teiku already! Tishbi got this!" 🤣

[@altinokz]

I’m rooting for the Rabbi! 😉

[@chuki6545]

IT IS A JOY LISTENING TO YOU BOTH...and the irony and the sweetness between you Rabbies is beautiful. Anyway I am with Friedman Rabbi

[@xpelian]

I watched this yesterday , and hearing it again today . ThAnkyou for this , very eye opening !

[@ris2914]

Thank you both Rabbis! Very inspiring! ‏בשורות טובות

[@manisfriedman]

You're very welcome! Thank you so much for watching

[@claywithers523]

Fascinatingly polite debate, thank you all for the experience.

[@dagmawitnegussie737]

Great teaching as always Thann you rabi Friedman

[@levitauber7781]

Thank You. The debate was very entertaining and informative. Looking forward to seeing you in Costa Rica. I’d like to add a point that I heard from the Skulener Rebbe (R’ Yisroel Avrohom) Z”L a number of times. The posuk says “Because there should be his fear (of hashem) on your faces, so you wouldn’t sin”. The main battle with the Yetzer Hora is on the don’ts. most people have no issue with Tfilin, Esrog, sukko etc. but the real challenge and test is with the don’ts. Another point that relates to your closing arguments. For several weeks in March - April, I davn’ed without a minyan, missed Krias Hatorah and had my phone open on Shabbos (I was instructed by a Rov to do so). Based on your closing arguments, the focus is not on whatever you do or doesn’t do, the focus is, what does hashem want from me now? It’s not about me doing mitzvas, it’s about living in hashem’s world and do as he says. If this is his will, than I am happy to do so.

[@jonkomatsu8192]

Wow. This was even better than I expected! And I was all prepared to be Team R' Friedman. But R' Taub rocked his arguments wonderfully! Thanks so much for posting this. Baruch Hashem! Mahalo shalom! ✡️🤙

[@lizgichora6472]

Don'ts give a deeper understanding of the why not, whilst the do's complement them by what makes it relevant. The answer in the question.This is so revealing and beautifully taught, thank you very much.

[@manisfriedman]

Thank you for watching and for the very kind words! God bless you

[@vivianclaiborne7653]

@Liz Gichora, It truly is beautiful, awesome!! I found Revelation 2:9, and 3:9, great, you'll find them just as beautiful. Liz, I found Deuteronomy 28:15-68, absolutely mind blowing. Genesis 15:13-14, these are connected, see if you can make sense of them. Bless you Liz.

[@lillianyuan1469]

Thanks to the two Rabbis for bringing up this interesting and important theme for debate. I am for Rabbi Friedman for sure. The reason is that, when we don't do what we don't do, we already DO what we don`t do. When we Do good, we are not doing what is bad. DO is always greater than Dont, for DO covers "Don't" , which means positive covers negative. When we keep Shabbat, we are doing "Don't break the Shabbat Day". When a car is driven forward (positive), it already includes the resistance force =backward = negative. The negative always serve the positive.

[@theresefournier3269]

I concur Lillian.

[@ElmwoodParkHulk]

These are two wonderful master debaters .

[@musicman1770]

I love the story about Zeidy Friedman. Wow! Thank you Manis.

[@DrKaii]

Two angels debating, it will be as sweet as watching the amoraim debate in Gemara, like menschen full of ahavah

[@ejpla3591]

Indeed

[@marcs8395]

Small problem one has a history of being a heretic

[@balurmoshiyakgova2261]

May Hashem bless you!!!

[@AlexanderBor670]

Yes ,one is certainly heretic

[@hdonstraight]

Lol thats stretching it...

[@mitchellacollado]

such a blessing to be able to hear something so amazing like these two Rabbis it fills your hart with joy and makes you think its not really about you its about something even greater amazing lecture

[@soniapb7456]

This is so lovely! The first debate I have ever enjoyed!

[@YishakFetllwork]

all three are amazing!

[@qmydee1481]

Excited ♡

[@ketherwhale6126]

This was so very much fun to watch! Both Rabbis had great points and really know their Torah upside down and backwards. But entertaining as it was, R. Friedman won me over in the end. But a great and wonderful debate. Think of another contentious topic and I’ll be there.

[@MARCIA.ZZZZZZ]

Wonderful and thought provoking. I loved this. Thank you.

[@herbcody9667]

Dissecting positive and negative into daily human existence Ahhhh! How refreshing and obviously a pre-requisite

[@ezras7997]

We love you both well, really great

[@ReggiD]

Superior and humble debating. I loved the synthesis and concluding remarks by rabbi Friedman.

[@maj27]

made me cry at the end! Beautiful ❤️

[@JRock1900]

The ENDING is the best part. But one cannot appreciate the END unless they listen to the entire “debate”. Rabbi Friedman sums it up very well. I was very impressed by the humbleness of these two brilliant people. Both made TRUE arguments and Rabbi Friedman summed it up very well

[@suninapawaroo3024]

I just love Rabbi Friedman he is awesome

[@phillanderdatsons4625]

Thank you for NOT sitting 6 feet apart.

[@sarakaplan3396]

I think the debate took place last summer!

[@moilyas2817]

Rabbi Friedman is clear winner in this debate because his explanation goes in the publics mind quickly and easily, he is cool relaxed and funny with jokes, the debate do not overwhelm him, with respect the other rabbi with numbers will make great sense to People like him but me jeo public none Jewish,none religious, etc, you have to make us understand,it's was love at first site to the wisdom and the way explained by Rabbi Friedman, hours of his lectures are ok and good, enjoyed by me, but five minutes of lectures by other greats are pain and to much, hence I turn off lectures👍🌹💞🌠

[@meatballjerrow]

So simple yet so profound

[@jeffreyrwilliams9345]

thank you. superb

[@eli2443]

Both very knowledgeable rabbis..i like rabbi shais taub though on this one ..he took to the challenge

[@kimanthonyvitug3863]

Thank u for the knowledge and wisdom.. Am yisrael chai.

[@AV-nq8zn]

The best debate of the season :)

[@janwallisa6877]

I absolutey loved this and shared it with many. Shalom

[@soyadaracondios129]

Excelente!!!! Un Abrazo from Puerto Rico!! Where’s the link to join the Wednesday conversations??

[@tyme4chaim]

That was super! There are two Giants in Torah and Chasidus ! Todah Rabbah!

[@OscarPalet]

Wow it's amazing teacher, thanks so much..

[@i8dpie]

It's amazing-they are both 100% correct!

[@dhannt5875]

Baruch Hashem Toda for both amazing Rabbis with Do and Don’t session as non Jew I have learnt from both side where is not important about me rather how to create a meaning life that matter first, He is a needy ONE ☝️ and I am needed on my Mitzvah connection with the creator. שלום Yom Tov 🌈

[@foxosama5646]

May adonai bless you and keep you and have his shechinah shine up you rabbi. Shalom

[@dannyrosenberg4175]

love it. more of these things.

[@lucasgust7720]

29:42 that point made Rabbi Shais Taub win the debate to me. Even Rabbi Friedman simply said "I'm impressed".

[@julsalon1435]

I love Rabi Manis so much. Thank you

[@UncleJake81]

This blew my mind! I loved it so much because both sides are right and I learned so much! Thank you very much

[@mehdi3580]

Hi i am muslim, i didn’t understand the debate. What are they debating about?

[@user-oi6gw4xw3p]

@19:45 the answer is that the positive commandment overrides a negative one only during the time/ act of doing the positive commandment ["b'idna " simultaneously]. not before or after. [ similar to what rabbi friedman himself said earlier]

[@ambassadorsam6619]

This should have been rather a discussion not necessarily a debate. I'm a Nigerian, I just got to know less than 5days and I must say am very much interested on every word you have said.

[@dinushblau4247]

איזה עונג להקשיב לרב פרידמן ❤😊

[@nanabubbie8713]

I loved it!

[@elianiisrael414]

I want to do teshuvah in positivo and negative and so on....what to do?

[@gilbertbloomer586]

Such an interesting and civil discussion/debate. This is dispute for the kingdom's sake.

[@Nuka0915]

A cogent and fascinating debate. I honestly agree with both on most of the part, but I in the end went with R. Friedman because he won the first argument, and it was an excellent closing, of course in my opinion. 👏☺️😇

[@tenaktalk]

Love this! Miss you Rabbi.

[@maurlaughter2914]

It's so Important that I have my motza and wine finally getting it together for a good shabbat 🙏😃

[@jayphyllissisk4565]

christ

[@SonnyShalom-sz7ge]

Hi rabbi how come the 365 don't dues the consequences for them in the Torah are much more significant like all the misos bes din Malkus etc ty

[@StMyles]

🤔🤔... I would have to take Jewish language studies to understand the finer details of this debate. But, the core of the presentation allowed me to comprehend some of the details. This was enlightening. Thank you for sharing.

[@dhardy6654]

Days Of Awe!❤️

[@Lorenzoselas]

A debate is a bad word when u can both be right. A debate deems a winner and loser but sometimes there is no loser.

[@rebeccaramrajkar3546]

Awesome debate. Great dimensions and depths added to my thinking.

[@williamschall9124]

Rabbi.... remember it is easier to ask for forgiveness, than to ask for permission...!!... love your debate... The Episcopalian in Boca.... come to South Florida and Speak....

[@bitcoinmining6361]

Does and don'ts.....is another paradox of life.....If you do good, more often than not, you will not see see, unless very astute, the result of the positive action. But usually you will see direct result of don't do good...A simple example....We teach our children all these ways to live....In modern day life an example can be seen in teaching a child how to cross the road.....If you 'do' teach them well, you will never know the crossing where they get knocked over, but you will know about it, if you 'don't' teach them sufficiently of the dangers

[@_deut6.9]

I love people. who they are and how they are for no reason. i find people fascinating. we meet so many people over the course of our lives, we build relationship and memories, love and kindred connection... then there comes a bizarre collective arragements and circumstance : two people are put in a disagreement/conflict. Act of self ambition and thoughts arise within that specific time in order to protect their cognitive understanding of living (comfort). a the tunnel vision of self serving as a way of regulating their nervous system is what breaks the connection usually in forms of slander to validate themselves. the ability to discern between God's direction vs personal desire. We're often wedged between complex scenarios. Without consequence of action we take for ourselves to solve an emotional/mental/physical state in that specific situation... there would be no end to things we grab for to make decisions to protect our "lives". We grow and learn that not all things we want and love are good for us. God designed us to love as the essence of who HE is but its the fruit of good and evil that sin which separated us from Him that make judgement on what is good and not good. He created the don't so we see the fruit of what He had in mind later. He's trying to babysit baby tornados everywhere constantly taking because we cant hear from Him unless we have a relationship with Him. Love and faithfulness despite the differences/preferences/temperance and long suffering for another person and being able to die to ourselves for love in action rather than feeling, regarding another above ourselves understanding "boundaries" honors God because He reasoned with us like this (Yeshayahu 1:18). He didn't have to show us anything in all His glory and wisdom but He helps us to see not all things are beneficial. To learn to live by faith and to lean in to hear Him makes a marriage like compromise to stay the path. He makes a way, not our personal fleshly desires. Love not out of obligation, and love has plenty "don'ts" because we learn to reason with wisdom and understanding. It reciprocal in that " I respect and love you" despite our differences. I don't do things I want because I love you more than this this conflict and the emotion of discomfort is temporary"... I loved this debate.

[@LisaRichards_123]

I saw the photo, and it was like Tzadik versus Tzadik!!!!!!!

[@Jay-tr3px]

Shalom shalom! What are positive mitzvah and what are the negatives? Please explain simple terms because I’m new

[@Jay-tr3px]

Thank you Michael F. Shalom.

[@rossanderson5243]

Don’t has more self control. Do can show self control but also lack of.

[@vieiracoracao]

On the other hand, someone could don't do something merely for lack of courage.

[@rossanderson5243]

@@vieiracoracao if you are doing the negative commandment for lack of courage, then you have to get your courage back so you are doing it for the right reason. That the commandment was given so you have to face it and then comply to it’s don’t.. In other words, put the strength of your soul into the commandment and if your soul is weak, strengthen it. I think the do IS for the positive and don’t IS for the negative and they both can look at each other and say we’re commandments, we’re good for the soul.

[@vieiracoracao]

@@rossanderson5243 That's correct. My point is: the "Do "does not necessarily implies self control, but the same applies to the "Don't". Therefore, self control, as important as it may be, cannot solve the question.

[@rossanderson5243]

@@vieiracoracao You are right too, so maybe we can see self control as one component we use

[@vieiracoracao]

@@rossanderson5243 Just to make myself clear, yes, self control is one of the fundamental matters of human life. But if we really _Do_ good, we will not even have the desires forbidden by the Don't. Let me give you one example. I'm not shy and I certainly can seduce women; but I love my wife so much that I no longer see any woman with the eyes of seduction. That's why, in this matter, I totally agree with Rabbi Friedman. But I think understand your point. Most men need the D'ont most that anything, so the D'ont is utterly important too. It can be even considered a more realistic position, considering all the difficulties of the human nature, which, of course, I also know very well. So this is a really good subject and I thank you for this conversation.

[@davidbernstein-realtor310]

This was great.

[@DjoleBravo]

In all fairness, bringing home flowers to your spouse just because you like bringing flowers, all the while you forgot the birthday, is still a don't, because you forgot about the birthday. And the spouse not bringing flowers but still remembering the birthday... How does that work, how did the spouse actually remember and not brought anything, in what way did the spouse show appreciation by simply remembering? So, both are don'ts in different ways.

[@Jorge-mg7or]

Why can't a person start doing both Mitzvahs at the same time as they learn how to do them or simply learn about them?

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture6080]

They can and should, the debate format Is just satire in order to teach about the mitzvos

[@stevenkoenig4218]

...I was ignorant, he brought it all around, I stand corrected...

[@daniomdt3660]

Wonderful "debate" between two ribbis, I know of great rabbi who answered this way - the greatest of the 613 laws is this : Shema uzrael Adonay Elehinu Adonay Echad! thus love Adonay with all your heart mind and soul ! This is the greatest commandment of them all, the second close to it is : love your neighbor as yourself! On these two laws hang all other laws. So since both of them are "positive laws" the DOS are greater than the don'ts . This answers the question sufficiently since the 365 don'ts and the 248 do's are derivatives of the most holy name of Hashem , they are truly One compound , one can not do without the other. But one can point out the greatest as being one with the highest ideal of the law.

[@haemeth42]

I see two great Rabbis, Mishna Avot says anything that is not for the sake of heaven will not last . Both Rabbis have the wisdom of God.

[@helderchimbalandongohelder7475]

Very interesting debate

[@Powerfulenergy9]

I loved!

[@nemabubunigeoffrey4842]

The conclusion speaks it all... Rabi manis took back the debate... indeed, gray hair is wisdom...

[@hayetzerhara8571]

The world of HaShem is about growth. And growth always starts from inside. So if you once decide to understand and align with the creator, this doesn’t guarantee happiness, but might fulfil your purpose?

[@stevenkoenig4218]

Positivity requires blind faithful forward motion, Negativity requires the despair and restraint of past iniquities... one is slavery, while one is be the Modern Adam in the Field of The Lord.

[@Jorge-mg7or]

23:15 - the generations between Adam and Noah were sinners. The generations between Noah and Abraham were sinners. Abraham collected all of the rewards from the previous 20 generations. Torah described Noah as a righteous man who walked with G_d (Gen 6:9). Question: why didn't Noah get any of those rewards that Rabbi Taub spoke about? Wonderful video Rabbis!

[@yaakovtheyid]

You guys need to run for President.

[@duttiandjoyce]

Rabbi 1000%❤️

[@houseofraministry5291]

This debate sounds interesting but the Jewish terminology on ceremony I'm lost.

[@lukasfilipsky31]

Even though I am an atheist, I enjoyed this debate. Both of you are wrong and both of you have clever arguments. People with totaly oposit opinions can discuse peacefuly. That's a great message.

[@chuki6545]

I agree with the statement that the sin is not necessary and without any meaning

[@sectmg9203]

One side is don't that's a sin conscious, the other side is due this is a Mitzvah conscious color I love both of you rabbis I love you both Rabbi Friedman is my brother by I love you both I choose not one apple for the next

[@user-oi6gw4xw3p]

you can NOT clean your boots before you walk out of the mud. get it?

[@papilephoto4901]

It depends who's looking at it. One can say you stop doing bad by stepping out of the mud. And on the other hand one can say you start doing good by stepping out of the mud.

[@user-oi6gw4xw3p]

@@papilephoto4901 the mud = the bad .

[@mehdi3580]

What does that mean? Can you clarify it please.

[@user-oi6gw4xw3p]

@@mehdi3580 just a thought. a parable. the mud is likened to bad . you can not clean your muddy boots until after you stop walking in the mud. [If you continue walking in the mud theres not much use in cleaning and shining them]. first you need to stop doing the bad. Of course this is not always true in life. the parable doesnt always apply. sometimes doing good/positive things will help a person to stop doing bad/ negative things

[@mehdi3580]

@@user-oi6gw4xw3p Ahh ok i understand now, this is true yes. You must change in order to become a holy person, we all know this.

[@triciafeld8897]

Clear as a blue sky with no humidity! Did you second guess a woman’s response? I am one. So here ‘tis. In the example of the husband coming home with a dozen roses and three hours late, I’ll wonder about why she wouldn’t say, “Busy day, dear?”, if it happened as an odd occurrence. I think trust is very important. Hurt feelings stemming from insecurity and lack of trust is the assumed norm in the explanations. I perceived what was said as his guilt. I don’t see the seriousness or assumed guilt. There is a reality and we need to be present and focused to see it.

[@EinSofQuester]

I think a negative mitzvah is more important than a positive mitzvah. Do not kill is more important than keep the Shabbat

[@joeasuncion7854]

Rabbi Friedman showed modesty. He knew he was right so he conceded to the other Rabbi. Class Act!!

[@Lorenzoselas]

Are u high?

[@sibtezehra7910]

Enjoyable debate. 💖

[@danijelgoldberg9667]

Schachmatt,Respekt!🕎