The Great Wall Of China Touches The Sea - So This MUST Be IMBA! | Is It IMBA Or Do I Suck?

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[@hainsay]

"History is usually written by the winners, but somehow Jerry got his hands on a pen." ahahaha

[@jerubaal101]

Such a Jerry.

[@Jordan-Ramses]

I think this proves that history written by the losers would be a lot worse. We only lost because Russian winter is OP. Nevermind the fact that our logistics were terrible and we had a huge oil deficit. We're smaller than Texas and without oil but we should have taken over the world. Not talking about any losers in particular :)

[@jerubaal101]

@@Jordan-Ramses Well this got weird.

[@jamaneee]

@@Jordan-Ramses I mean you could be talking about the French or the Germans, as the Oil deficit is more of a thing I'm gonna go with Germans. Interestingly the German invasion of Russia does have an element of the losers writing it, because The Americans interviewed the German general post WW" as they were the "Russian fighting experts" and wanted to know how to fight the Russians. The Germans actually did start their invasion in the Summer but couldn't achieve all their objectives before winter, and if you ask me that is the much bigger failing.

[@Jordan-Ramses]

@@jamaneee I agree about the losers writing the eastern front narrative. That's why it's so wrong. Hitler wasn't a madman and his generals weren't geniuses. There weren't an inexhaustible supply of Soviet troops. The Germans exaggerated Soviet numbers by a great deal. They would say like our division faced 5 Soviet divisions. But Soviet divisions were much smaller and they weren't anywhere near full strength. Not that that isn't understandable. I'm sure it feels like that when you are being shot at :)

[@MrSpleenface]

Possibly if english isn't a first language, he thought the form was asking "what race do you think is imba/what race is the complaint about", hence why he answered zerg.

[@yugioh00Master00]

I can speak proper english and even I was confused about the form the first time I have seen it. I just decided to take a look at the report card of the Iodis episodes to make sure I dont screw it up.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

Yup, that's what I guessed their thought process was, too.

[@Kaefer1973]

I'd assume that you'd have to name both races, but your own first.

[@thearchives2691]

The zerg player heard macro game and built 102 drones. Jerry said macro game and peaked at like 55 scvs. Seems like Jerry is missing some fundamental concepts here. Like... "What is a macro game?"

[@contentiouscritic]

I noticed that in his initial report, where he demands the Zerg play a macro game and then attacks him with 4 hellions and a reaper. Like yeah, that's technically a macro opening, but it isn't exactly "no rush".

[@AntiDoctor-cx2jd]

@@contentiouscritic I think his zerg friend was better than him so he asked him to hold back. I think they had a deal that Jerry could still do whatever.

[@damedley75]

4:00 You're wrong about this one, Harmstem. This is great practice. All he needs to do on ladder is chat his opponent "I'm building 3 CC please don't attack."

[@redeye7443]

Can we talk about Jerry's wall? Or rather lack there-of. Those engi-bays kill me every time I see them.

[@HelloQro]

You don't get it, it's not a wall, it's a labyrinth, Jerry was playing tower defense, trying to maximize the surface area for his firebat tower

[@Facesforce]

Listen, as a former professional magician, the Svengali is a all time classic trick. Your classmate's problem was that his presentation was poor at that time, trust me, it takes time to learn how to dictate to the audience how to take a action. A much better way to do that trick is to split the deck in half, and then set both on the table. Then tell them to choose the top card from one of the two decks. This way, you give them the illusion of choice and the magic is established. A few florishes later, and your set. That being said, a Svengali deck only works for 4-6 uses in my experience. So a better solution is to move into a levitating trick, or if you are asked to repeat the trick, palm the deck into a pocket with a joke, and pull out a identical deck with a different key card. Thus, the perfect toolkit for a begining magician. BTW, I'll only give one hint on how to make things levitate. Women's pantyhose, perferably black and sheer. Figure out the rest for yourself. XD

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

My friend does magic tricks with cards sometimes. He tried to impress my dad once. It worked but not the way you'd think: he was dumbfounded when none of the cards he showed were "it"... That's because my dad kept the picked card somehow.

[@nahruz.w3044]

I wonder if his zerg friend was holding back.....

[@ilikefishandpotatoes]

Felt like he was trolling in the end. He knew he was so far ahead he could do whatever he wanted so he just threw units away for free

[@nahruz.w3044]

@@ilikefishandpotatoes yeah look at those ultra, thats a legit campagin enemy waves haha.... For me the red flag was his bane with no speed. Seeing that would pain me to no end, the fact that he still use no speed banelings in 9 minute mark and have a lot bank to just go upgrade centrifugal hooks is a big indication he is giving his friend a chance and was holding back

[@jamesn.5721]

Two IODIS in less than a week? Damn

[@MrTubeStuck]

The whole game was lost when Jerry thought he was ahead with his decent early game. He coasted thinking he is got it already and just tried practicing his micro

[@Fummy007]

"First of all its a very British and American name" - Kevin

[@ZAWARUD00]

Kevin is Irish, and it's been exported to the USA, but definitely not British.

[@danielskrivan6921]

The complaint form - he put Zerg because that's what he thinks is imba.

[@Dr.M.VincentCurley]

I ordered a pizza delivered to work, therefore, I watched Harstem tear apart another student.

[@redfish337]

Orange zerg looks great, especially those banelings. I really do hate how it's almost always red versus blue at the professional level. Red is a particularly bad choice because of the nukes.

[@Kilesfactor]

the default colours sadly are red and blue. I wish they would allow for custom colors for ... diverseness lol

[@alltat]

Red and blue have been the default colors for players 1 and 2 in Blizzard games since at least Warcraft II, possibly even the first Warcraft game. By this point it's basically tradition. It looks good for terran, but I always liked yellow protoss and purple zerg more.

[@xuyifan3703]

Red and blue are only for the observers tho right? I think players can set their colors. For example I think the Chinese player Cyan picks cyan every time so he named himself after that

[@Kilesfactor]

@@xuyifan3703 Yes, you can color yourself in your own game however you like, but it won't be set for observers. To set colours officially, it'll have to be a custom game where you set those colors beforehand.

[@chikendoodle1628]

I think stacking the deck and preparing is part of the magic trick.

[@Facesforce]

The key is to have several decks, each with a different key card. Know how many times you can use it, and then pocket it, thus keeping up the magic. Stack it when you get home. It's better that way.

[@2Stepzupp]

Glad to see the series title returning in the video names but you should use the shortened series title like IODIS at the end, combined with an episode number! For example "The Great Wall Of China Touches The Sea - So This MUST Be IMBA! | IODIS #55 The reasoning being something called Search Engine Optimisation, which is knowing what your viewers will type into a search bar when looking for this series, which is most likely "Harstem IODIS", by putting the term IODIS in the title the engine is much more likely to recommend these videos to searchers, which trains the algorithm to promote the series more often to starcraft viewers. Also the space between the IODIS #55 is important to not interfere with that. The episode number is also really helpful as it allows viewers to skip around episodes, and again promotes each video more often in the search function. The episode numbers will also let the viewers know there's a tonne more episodes like this, and the link to the playlist in the description should be promoted more so they know it's there. Binge watchers are a big part of revenue, entire streaming services like Netflix base their entire business model off knowing people like to binge watch an entire series in a few sittings.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

8:35 This seems to be a recurring theme in lower level replays. People start winning but then instead of keeping their lead they start to get cheeky, trying to win harder and losing big chunks of their lead.

[@damedley75]

8:02 I'd take these busted cars back for repairs, but that may be the wrong move.

[@hatecrewblaze]

When you read the title and know that this is going to be an absolute banger

[@blocklandia1770]

Am I wrong, or if Jerry just rallied his mines to his natural and burrowed them before the bane attack he holds? They were just derping in his main. Always force a Zerg to micro from your mines.

[@damedley75]

19:22 my five base opponent is remaxing faster than I can on two mined out bases. Help, Captain!

[@yohell]

Ahem, he was actually playing against his fiend.

[@brendanadams6910]

No no pick the top card. epic .

[@similartracks]

"with his FIEND"

[@danielskrivan6921]

F2 is the 11th control group.

[@adamhubbert8896]

I sometimes wonder if people watch the replays before they send it in.

[@dew9103]

25:07 laugh in brood war Terran vs protoss

[@mareksicinski3726]

3:50 I mean it’s an ok trick, that’s not a bad thing It’s not terrible

[@tlynch001]

Harstem's grasp of English is really good.

[@Wateryy]

I love your videos Harstem great content as always!

[@Hopeman__TM]

nice videos love your content!

[@Sizzlor1337]

Yo this series is hilarious and informative! gg

[@samalmo]

Loved this video and the other one when you were going for sub 100 APM, so happy you continued to upload videos after your last, you were acting like you peaked after defeating that guy with carriers lol 😂

[@Kaefer1973]

Well instead he peaked two month ago with defeating that Finish guy with Phoenix.

[@maartenromkes353]

Nice helmet you got there Captain! Now I'm left with some jealous stormtroopers

[@blazethefaith]

Minor nitpick: the new IMBA form has a typo in the fine print on the right side (validwithout)

[@DFGdanger]

nitpick* :)

[@blazethefaith]

@@DFGdanger I'll knit you a pick

[@sasugashogun]

He started widow mines before losing the hellions.

[@olivander65]

I laugh so much at these. Good stuff.

[@apoth90]

What confuses me most is that Jerry didn't switch army composition. He plays Bio, and his opponent throws Banelings and Ultralisk at him, that take out half his army with two or three hits...

[@benjaminleisure1744]

Harstem, because of you I have started to play starcraft. you make it look very fun

[@ErenisRanitos]

imagine Harstem is actually roasting a lactose intolerant Chinese guy for not willing to participate in any cheese.

[@junweihe8229]

there's barely lactose in most kinds of cheese just so you know

[@ErenisRanitos]

@@junweihe8229 THAT'S WHY IT'S NO CHEESE NOT SOME CHEESE

[@junweihe8229]

@@ErenisRanitos yeah but there's nothing to do with lactose intolerance

[@dfsdsfsdfsadfdsfa223]

Those slow banes are triggering me so much rn

[@amhm8664]

thank you for this, I've missed it

[@monkeyaround2066]

The great Wall of China bans the song "Fragile" by Namewee

[@Gman791991]

Its my dearest wish to be the opponent in the IODIS series!!

[@mareksicinski3726]

2:28 I mean the complaint against whom and what he’s playing is different no need to insult

[@fireeye6762]

My favorite part of the form is when he says "I killed seven drones so I assumed my opponents economy was trash"

[@tiberiu_nicolae]

What a wholesome story about his friend who became a magician

[@light1914]

could you talk about some transitions from two gate blink openers maybe to colossus or something

[@ErenisRanitos]

window mines xD

[@axe1_b563]

Shhh, they don't need to know

[@MrMcMuggel]

thank you, i really needed to know

[@ErenisRanitos]

@@MrMcMuggel it's written on the IMBA complaint, Harstem just didn't notice.

[@ErenisRanitos]

@@axe1_b563 it's written on the IMBA complaint, Harstem just didn't notice.

[@christopheranno146]

His name is Jerry and all I can visualize is the seal in Finding Dory who doesn't get to sit on the rock. Zerg are the other two seals that bully him.

[@Zafarium]

has Harmstem done the F2-only challenge for beating gm with stupid stuff?

[@lelouchvibritannia7809]

This game is a perfect example of why Macro heavy players are better than micro heavy players

[@patrickcampbell957]

Every other IODIS is the complete opposite tho lol

[@WarbossFraka]

Which is a very sad thing, Micro should be the crown jewel of RTS, but SC2 warped that so heavily.

[@incognitonotsure909]

@@WarbossFraka lol a strategy game should be based on how fast you smash your keyboard?

[@WarbossFraka]

@@incognitonotsure909 Should be based on Micro instead of Macro. Macro isn't that impressive of a skill as apposed to micro.

[@redeye7443]

@@WarbossFraka couldn't agree less. Macro is what separates RTS from a moba.

[@SquintyGears]

Has there ever been a it is imba stamp?

[@danielskrivan6921]

I heard a song about this guy once. Wasn't he a racecar driver?

[@jonsolo32]

Jerry.... where were your siege tanks at home???

[@repit5014]

He thought he needs to put in the race that is imbalanced.

[@SuperMastermindx]

Is it just me or is there some flashing lights behind the captain

[@AntiDoctor-cx2jd]

I love how people who suck keep playing and keep the energy up. I know that most players would beat me and I just don't have the energy for that.

[@glowyboi7175]

Lean beef & lamb are a great source of protein for high yield dividends, but if day trading is your thing stick with chicken.

[@danielskrivan6921]

Kevin sounds like an American name, too.

[@technomusicaddicted]

And Americans started out as European settlers importing their european names.

[@john.mathews]

savage intro.

[@mareksicinski3726]

0:40 well playing specifically macro wld also improve one aspect no

[@MyPlaylists22]

the east taiwanese server always brings great content

[@Leeroy49]

In card magic a lot of tricks actually need preparation and you don't always know with just seeing the effect because there might be different methods. Tricks without prep (in promptu) are cooler :).

[@dsds51621]

(Unrelated to this video in particular) It’d be funny if someone submits a Maru video and says the fourth race is imba.

[@andrebrodbeck384]

16:49 i would like to know why the zerg loses 14 drones here. And Kevin does not even notice it.

[@Dumbastic]

You are supposed to do every magic trick just once to be fair, it's an unwritten magician rule! Doing a prepared trick as an opener is totally fine captain!

[@D3cyanide]

dis·in·gen·u·ous* 19:04 liked and subscribed. so now that you've taken out maru, who's next on your list?!

[@seri-ously8591]

The issues you see with CN iodis (other than the exaggerated hilarious imba forms) is that some have practiced standard openers on point but then after the first few minutes fall off, because they don’t know follow-ups. So many are lost and end up throwing the game. On top of weird and questionable player choice.

[@Kotaztrafee]

They are WiNdow Mines not Widow Mines.

[@howzany6832]

YKHD @23:57 ends the game with 1337 minerals...

[@alimoorad5998]

Bwahahaha 🤣 Love it! 🤣

[@Sara_Feingold]

~MaGiCaL bAnElInGs~ XD

[@Mglunafh]

Thanks to Jerry for the sharing a replay and this episode! What I would like to mention is that ofc i know nothing about jerry and his friend and what they agreed on exactly (funnily enough the complaint form says "...I had this replay with my *_FIEND_* ...") but when I saw the phrase that zerg promised the macro game I instantly thought: hey, actually you dont want Zerg to play a macro game. That deal to have a macro game was kind of a double-edged sword for poor Jerry, his friend went full "ayy lets build as many drones as possible" which naturally sets the countdown for the opponent; unless terran is Clem/Maru or performs a commited push/all-in in a timely fashion there is simply no way to beat Zerg later in the game. What I'm trying to say is that experiment doesn't look clean to me, Jerry unintentionally gave away too much info to his friend because generally (in a macro game scenario) you either want to strike fear into a zerg so he doesnt build drones OR punish him hard for his greed, and neither option took a place in the game :)

[@zbyszanna]

Was the video title supposed to be at another video?

[@theOrkinman09]

Harstem, you complimenting his early build is like complimenting a painter who can only trace from pictures they've already seen or have in front of them.

[@damienpoblete]

Tbh it's hard to trace a picture you don't have in front of you :P

[@Freeze-WJ]

@harstem and @hamster, you might want to pay a bit more attention to your patreon, remember the ask me anything from over 2 months back?

[@LasseLundster]

This Z is just much better than the Terran lol, he knew he could just wait on 100 workers and save up for mass ultra since the 4 minute mark and the T had no clue, it's like he's getting smurfed on

[@hermeticinstrumentalist6804]

Harstem being very generous with the suck this game.

[@heybroy0747]

The one dislike on this video 😏 I think jerry didn’t like being called suck.

[@nd7915]

Anyone else just here for the analogies? xD

[@Nex123]

football - american soccer

[@TrueThanny]

Soccer is a British term that's still used in some parts of the UK.

[@cyryl3827]

Why was the APM occasionally jumping to 300 for terran and 800 for zerg? I don't think I've ever seen such APM done by pro-players. Are they using some sorts of bots, or APM counter broke?

[@jerry1679]

😟

[@lallarolle]

Why did he check zerg when he's T? Are you supposed to check the race you think is imba and not the race you play? Also why can't you check random?

[@JJokerMoreau]

Bad look for Harstem, in my opinion. I know 'E-Sports' wants to be regarded as a 'real sport', but this is just a wonderful take on the absolute lack of understanding on how to train for something. Bouts, or real fights give you experience; they also cause bad habits. Be it martial arts, boxing, or in my personal experience, Fencing, bouts are NOT the best way to learn or train. Targeted sparing and practice have always been far superior to experience, the entire rant about 'stacking the deck' is absolutely absurd and a waste of several minutes of time in this video. This Chinese players is LUCKY to have a friend willing to help him get better. Sure, I could join circuits and just fight opponents in hopes of gaining experience needed to win. But if I am poor at using flicks, or defending against them, I'll learn absolutely NOTHING from an opponent that never uses them in a real bout. Sparing and practice are extremely important and vastly superior, though because most 'e-sport' players (see all) are self taught/learned, I can understand their limited understanding.

[@klarthkoken1925]

a) Harstem's analogies are not to be taken altogether seriously. b) This is a bad form of practice because if you learn to build your macro around not worrying about early aggression, you are acquiring habits that are all wrong for an unrestricted game.

[@JJokerMoreau]

@@klarthkoken1925 You won't build a bad habit. And even if you 'do', (which you won't), you'll have improved massively in every other field, so that you'll be able to then start focusing on that aspect of your play. Having to worry about everything at once, and every build order, and every matchup, and every troll strategy. All at once. Just makes you sloppy everywhere.

[@liampree]

hahahaha

[@williambrinkmeier1772]

Well the imbalance really is if terran ever lost 1300 and got nothing the games just over .

[@aresagathos2075]

But was that Zerg player realy the better player ?

[@urkeksi4490]

In terms of Micro? big no In terms of Macro? very big yes If your opponent can maintain double your Eco no Micro will help you and that´s how it should be imo.

[@aresagathos2075]

@@urkeksi4490 But had the terran at this skill level really the chance to deny the eco ? Did he had a chance to improve his ico or would every expo just been bane busted?

[@ilikefishandpotatoes]

@@aresagathos2075 lol of course

[@urkeksi4490]

@@aresagathos2075 if he wouldn´t be able to deny the eco it would just be a skill difference. That´s what the whole ranking system is there for :D The first Bane runby was a simple move order with SLOW Banelings with no Micro whatsoever. The Terran just completely overextended his Micro play and forgot what expanding or even remotely protecting his base was.

[@HienNguyen-fg4do]

clearly zerg is imba. All he had to do is press ZZZZ UUUUUUUUU and then A move while terran had to press AAAAA DDDDD TAB MM NNN(for liberators) and GGGG for ghost. Then he had to press SHIFT eeeeeeeeeeeeee to set up the liberators and press Q and right click and then press A then left click while press shift then EEE for steady targeting...... WTF why terran has to do so many steps?????????? This is balance my asssss

[@Jolbulka]

first

[@RichardRichardman]

imbalance card marked zerg, not terran

[@henryviiifake8244]

Jerry clicked the wrong race 🤣 (I think he thought it was for the race you're complaining about and not the one you're playing)

[@xii600]

just build mines vs ling bane ez game in low mmr

[@junweihe8229]

this guy is 3300 something in China???? I know the game is pretty dead in China but wtf??? this is like 2200 something in EU for sure

[@joe7380]

Harstem your a zoomer.

[@imi___]

15:46 Wrong logic! When the enemy plays badly and you still can't beat him, that IS an indication that his race/units might be imba. It still is possible that the complainer is EVEN WORSE, but that is than harder to prove as if the enemy would play good. See it this way: If the enemy would play perfect, then yea... nothing here is imba, the complainer just isn't good enough. But if the enemy is not good, it is more likely that something is imba. The burden is on you to show that the complainer is really terrible - even worse than his opponent.

[@hairmachine1284]

Hmm, nope. Lower level play, by definition, will contain a number of errors. Therefore, any player oustide of God-tier is certain to be losing to opponents who are making mistakes. The lower the level, the more egregious the mistakes you can expect to find in both players, including the winner. It follows that merely observing that you have lost to an opponent making a mistake tells you progressively less and less the further you get down the ladder. Another way to see this: imagine simulating 1000 games between two perfect AIs, vs 1000 games between two monkes who move randomly. Any imba will show up clearly in the distribution for the AIs, but the monkes will 100% of the time show an even distribution between all three races regardless of any balance (that's how random works). I see no reason to presume this relationship is anything other than linear. In an inblanced game the bad players start off as basically monkes and will show an even (random) distribution, and as the MMR advances the imba would begin to exert a progressively greater effect on the distribution. At perfect play, any imba would become crystal clear.

[@magerius]

Terran was always the weakest race of all 3 since the begining of SC.

[@ElGoogKO]

I would not have watch any replay video but reply to the person. Dear Jerry, Stop playing starcraft or any other competitive video game. Resume yourself to some sandbox type of game. Also don't work in the private sector. Try to focus your career to public worker sector, you know simple life, working with some papers, saying to the people "neeeext" when they come with their documentation for you to file into specific folders.