The Greatest Ever Doctor Who Finale?

Doctor Who Series 10 is considered one of the best, and a big part of that is because of the epic two-part finale World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls. Does it still hold up? Well, that's what I'm here to find out!
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[@HarboWholmes]

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[@Meep805]

In regards to Missy's death I think it's very fitting that she does decide to stand with the Doctor in exactly the way the quote "Good is good in the final hour. In the deepest pit-without hope, without witness, without reward" says. The Doctor will never know she chose to stand with him at the very end, and ultimately because of that fact, she genuinely did prove she could be good. It's honestly perfect.

[@fenthomas2733]

I think about this at least once every couple of months, it’s heartbreaking but it’s so well written, I think it made it so much harder to love sacha dhawan’s iteration because where did all of the growth go! I don’t accept that he’s somehow before missy as an explanation and just have to choose to accept that because of what happened in this ep that the hopelessness of being good meant they regressed if anything

[@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg]

The Doctor references Extremis in this speech, but he also references Clara's last words In Face the Raven.

[@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg]

​@@fenthomas2733and Missy HAS to die without the Doctor knowing - she has to turn her back on her past without any hope she can survive, without any witnesses to her change, and without any rewards. Without hope. Without witness. Without reward. Good is only good in extremis.

[@througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914]

let not your right hand know what the left does... Missy doing the bddings of Jesus. (I'm atheist by the way)

[@legobi_wan_kenobi]

Never forget that it was The Sun who ruined the reveal of Simm by leaking his appearance. Just another reason to hate that rag

[@joelwilliams9636]

Could have been one of the best twists in the whole show genuinely

[@topmandog1]

god i hate the sun

[@sketchesbyboze]

It feels weird to say about a show that's been on the air for sixty years, but this would've been a great finale for the whole show. That character beat where the two Masters laugh together as they realize they've killed each other is just so perfect. I can't imagine bringing the Master back after that. It's such a fitting end to their arc.

[@noahjohnson5603]

I’ve been saying for a few years now that, if the whole of Doctor Who ended here, while the fandom would have been upset to see a good thing go, it would retrospectively be seen as the perfect finale.

[@megarotom1590]

I feel like they should have either retired the master or had a roundabout timeline thing... I hate the explanation they gave so much

[@strosiemead4242]

@@noahjohnson5603totally agree 👍🏻

[@dracrorasco4907]

I actually used the where I Fall speech in my monologue class and did my best to copy Capaldi’s vocal inflections perfectly and I got a 92 so clearly my teacher wasn’t a DW fan

[@Squashedelica]

I did that in my acting class in highschool, I used the song "fire coming out of the monkeys head" for my 2 minite monologue lol can't remember what I got but I know she was impressed 😂

[@Lordgrayson]

In fairness Speeches are less about the words and more about the delivery in a lot of ways

[@DinoBoy26]

I did the zygon inversion speech, and got an A+, so clearly my teacher was! 😂

[@CineScarborough]

That's so cool. When I did drama at college, I wanted to do the Stonehenge speech from The Pandorica Opens but my drama teacher wouldn't allow it because it's not from a theatre play.

[@nairrdlairrd]

One time I was between three Doctor Who monologues for a low-key audition (it was basically a class because you got in no matter what), the Listen monologue, the Bootstrap Paradox monologue, and another one I don’t remember. I’d chosen the Bootstrap Paradox, but after watching some of the other students perform theirs, I got worried my pick wasn’t what my director was looking for, so I switched to Listen at the last minute. Well, I skipped over some important lines, didn’t give any characterization, and was told flat out that it was a bad monologue😂

[@linksbro1]

I will say, The Master flirting with Missy was the only hint at selfcest Moffat did that makes sense, because The Master has only ever loved one person and one person only; himself.

[@SparklyGooch]

/herself

[@qinjikofoxx5580]

​@@SparklyGooch Both are correct. The Master (he) and the Mistress (Missy, she) were both in this episode.

[@SparklyGooch]

@@qinjikofoxx5580 that’s why I did the “/“ because you should be using both no just one which is what they did

[@purplef0xx]

Answer to the video title: yes.

[@emperorholocron8278]

This episode is the culmination to an arc that’s been taking place for the last 12 years and 4 incarnations. From stories of Time War guilt and finding love and Time Lord victoriousness, Childlike wonder, loss of wonder, finding forgiveness in the mind of Clara Oswald, marriage and acceptance and now the main arc of the revival comes to an end. The Doctor is a good man. In the final hour. Without hope, Without witness, Without reward.

[@vullord666]

This finale honestly could've been played in theaters, with both parts fused together, for an anniversary. The fact that it has such a tight story and keeps the focus on 12 and Bill despite having 3 generations of Cybermen, 2 Masters/Mistresses, and even a first Doctor cameo. What always stood out to me the most was how 12 died in the first Cybermen attack at the very start of the episode and has been refusing to regenerate for over two weeks, and we even see him get shot point blank and die again and he once again refuses to regenerate when his body is barely holding on. Then there's the scene in the TARDIS when his body is Kickstarted from the tear and given another chance to regenerate and he still refuses. I love it because it's such a callback to the very start of Capaldi's era, "Deep Breath", and how 12 has felt being the Doctor overall. He's grown a LOT since series 8, but the Doctor is still tired and more than 12 was consistently having existential crisises regarding his regeneration being the 13th that broke past the cycle. In his very first proper episode he made the comment about if the broom is still the same broom when you've changed all the parts many times over, and he made it clear that he didn't think so. At every crucial moment 12 have been so cavalier not just with his life, but with all his lives. He wasted regeneration energy tricking Davros, in the virtual reality world he was going to steal from future regenerations to get his sight back only for a moment, and he wasted regeneration energy again to pull a prank on Bill (or like test her or whatever). And in response to his resolute attitude on being the final Incarnation of the Doctor, I have that its the TARDIS who ultimately answers his question in the biggest way. She takes him to the first Doctor who in "Twice Upon a Time" serves to both remind him of who he was and more importantly show him that he hasn't changed all that much (well he's changed a lot, but his core is still the same). The First Doctor even has the same fears of changing as Twelve and I love that. I love it all! My only real major complaint is how much Chibnall tainted this finale. 13 was meant to have a new lease on life after 12 was resolute in being the last, but we never even got "that" much of a character for her (she has great moment but umm... yeah... it could be better). Then we have Sacha's Master, who I love in terms of performance btw, which just kinda immediately both confuses and taints the Master's ending here. And I mean immediately with this being the Series 10 finale and them being back in series 12's opener. Like I expected the Master to return, but not that fast and not without any explanation or mention to Missy's character arc. Heck, I was expecting incarnations before Missy but I'd still need an explanation. Oh and they destroyed present day Gallifrey... again... great 😅.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

cinemas*; and every single thing you’ve said about the effects of Jodie’s era is blatantly false.

[@Comicbroe405]

I always loved that Capaldi got his wish of interacting with the Mondasian Cybermen this ep. Hits harder for me.

[@MaxAutoAttack]

I love the Doctor's explanation of the Cybermen's parallel evolution, it subtly drives the idea that they aren't monsters, but a race of people actively making a choice, and explains the large amount of changes in their designs in the classic era. (and it gives them an excuse to use the modern suits to save budget in the finale)

[@vullord666]

Do the modern suits save budget? Would've expected the classic era suits to be the cheapest.

[@BlueSparxLPs]

@@vullord666 Classic suits cost more because they have to be remade and/or repaired, whereas they would already have a large stock of the newer ones ready to go at a moment's notice.

[@dalekbumps]

28:32 I've always contested the idea that Asylum of the Daleks should have been 'Asylum of the Cybermen'. Even if you ignore the fact that Cybermen, as inherently emotionless creatures dependent on pure logic, would have no reason whatsoever to lock up malfunctioning units in an Asylum (with Attack of the Cybermen showing that they simply destroy units that malfunction, and The Silver Turk illustrating how the parts from these Cybermen are then recycled to make more Cybermen) - the twist of Oswin's conversion would have been much easier to see coming if it was a Cyberman story. We hadn't seen the idea of Humans being converted into Daleks since 1986's Revelation of the Daleks, so that reveal came as much more of a surprise. If the Asylum had been filled with Cybermen instead of Daleks, Oswin's fate would have been a foregone conclusion to anyone who had seen a Cyberman story before

[@LULU-animate]

I think the idea of an Asylum of the Cybermen maybe could’ve worked if it wasn’t made by Cybermen for Cybermen, but was made by humans for Cybermen. Like maybe it was somewhere to put your family members or friends (if they were converted) to either regain parts of their humanity or as a way to hold Cybermen as test subjects for research for a way to potentially find a reverse for the conversion process The Oswin reveal would still be obvious, but the idea of an Asylum for Cybermen would make a bit more sense.

[@jollygreenjeff2640]

Make the obviousness of Oswin’s condition part of it. Have the Doctor, companions, and audience know what she’s become the whole time, but have that sense of dread building as they try to keep the secret until she finally puts it together herself.

[@hued2542]

Technically 🤓 the last human daleks were in parting of the ways

[@dalekbumps]

@@hued2542 technically, those were Dalek mutants grown from Human cells, not individual Humans being transformed into Daleks as we see in Revelation and Asylum 😉

[@lucypreece7581]

Capaldi's monologue is just stunning. When you give that man a big speech and big monologue moment like in here and Zygon Inversion, the man just sparkles. he glitters and I love it so much. I don't mean this as an insult to the other modern era Doctors cus they are all great in their own ways but with the breadth and experience and gravitas that Capaldi has from being essentially a veteran actor only he could pull of moments like these. He his every beat and every moment so perfectly. It's just perfection. You can tell in these moments that this man eats, sleeps, beaths and shits acting. It lives in his bones and his veins. It's his life's calling. It is what he was put on this earth to do. These are the moments where we see that. okay gushing ramble over. carry on with your lives.

[@saenz7947]

Oh boy, am I glad that I watched series 10 only after it concluded and didn't see any trailers. The way I experienced these two episodes, not knowing that Mondasian Cybermen and the Master would be in them, was just pure excitement and bliss. I get shivers just thinking about it. Since then I've seen it like a dozen times and the experience is still fantastic every time.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

The trailers are part of the episodes.

[@saenz7947]

@@DrWhoFanJ I don't watch those and it's very rewarding.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@ idiotic*. They’re an integral part of the episodes. It is not possible for you to have seen the episodes without having seen the next time trailers.

[@saenz7947]

@@DrWhoFanJ What are you talking about? Just press stop, or if you watch on TV switch the channel?

[@DrWhoFanJ]

@ Neither. That question makes no sense whatsoever.

[@syesmyc]

45:37 i understand the frustration with moffat's character deaths that aren't really deaths as he's done this several times in a row (amy and rory die but they get to live out their lives in new york, clara dies but she gets to have an unspecified time being a doctor-like figure with her own companion, bill gets converted into a cyberman but gets saved and brought back to life by heather) but in bill's case i actually prefer how moffat reversed what would have otherwise been another "bury your gays" trope and i love that it was bill's love interest who saved her

[@mayotango1317]

What about Danny Pink?

[@dh-ck2om]

@@mayotango1317he seems straight so we can bury him

[@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg]

I love the fact the Toymaker revisits their deaths.

[@theKtransmission]

@@mayotango1317 The permanence of his death fueled my absolute favorite Christmas story "Last Christmas," and also fueled Clara's downward spiral of increased recklessness which meaningfully deepened her character arc in series 9 and lead to the epic "Face the Raven," "Heaven Sent," "Hell Bent" trilogy finale (even though the ending of that incorporates Clara's un-death). Permadeath definitely makes for better drama, no doubt.

[@satyathota9546]

Yeah Moffat would have been screwed if the one time he broke his "no real deaths" rule was to kill off a gay character. All the work he did the whole season to try to redeem his image as a good liberal would have gone down the drain and the media would never say anything positive about him ever again.

[@squid9882]

I've never been very clued in to Dr who trailers and background stuff. As a result, I was lucky enough to be totally blind to the Masters inclusion. Truly one of the most impactful twists I've experienced in the show

[@armin0427]

35:03 about this line, i see it frequently misunderstood as "a weird line", while it's a sweet line about Bill trying to say that she love the doctor, not in a romantical way, but she can't manage to find the words to express it

[@BlueSparxLPs]

Exactly this. It really hit for me because I find it so weird and difficult to understand the idea of non-romantic love. I cannot say "I love you" to someone platonically because it's incredibly uncomfortable to me, so Bill trying to talk around it and find another way to show her appreciation resonated heavily with me.

[@G3NX3SiS]

I always saw it as Bill saying she is attracted to women, but makes an exception for the doctor

[@sycaccino8533]

It's still out of nowhere and could have been written far better to express what she actually meant to say.

[@througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914]

they brought back the BiL simplicity in Joy to the world 2024, the lesbian woman in the train affirms her love of a woman vocally to a man. The Doctor helped he affirm her lesbianism firmly and vocally. Yes Ncuti helped sa he says and as most won't understand

[@darlig.ulv.bakhjerne]

Am I the only one who actually likes the fact that Chibnall brought The Master back as *The Master* and not Missy 2.0? It solidifies how unique Missy was as an incarnation, and I really like that her attempts to change are somewhat reflected in the Spy Master's defining trait of self-loathing. Every episode he features in, he's trying to cast off his Time Lord heritage or outright become someone or something else. He knows he doesn't have the same sense of self that his previous incarnation has, and he reacts to that with intense self-hate and an even greater bitterness towards the Doctor and everything they stand for

[@Jackson-ub1uv]

23:15 The Cybermen weren't given the ability to convert Time Lords, they were just made to consider them "humans" and thus targets.

[@througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914]

well it'd explain how the dawn ones became cybermasters a little more easily, do you really know what 12 programmed 100% ? o r only what you think you saw?

[@Jackson-ub1uv]

@@througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914 Twelve quite literally stated that he only changed one thing: the number of hearts a "human" can have. The CyberMasters were made by the Master with the knowledge of the Cyberium, adapting the conversion process to work on Time Lords.

[@aeloswindrunner]

John Simm's reveal was already incredible, but then if they hadn't spoiled it in the trailers. I also love the differences between the multi doctor and multi master stories. The Doctor bickers with themselves but ultimately comes together to get the job done. The Master gets along like a house on fire to the point of flirting, and ultimately kill each other

[@angelrising8589]

i think this was the last time I liked Doctor Who

[@patchodraws9200]

honest to goodness, this would have been a fantastic finale to the series, at least for a while. i understand no one could really see the future when renewing the show, but i've found it overall losing a bit of steam and in need of a break (very much like 14, ironically). this would have been the perfect end to the show while still leaving room in the future for its return, with Bill's insistence that the universe will one day really really need him. truly a magical, epic episode. (also thank you for pointing out the soviet aesthetic, i've been trying for YEARS to put a name to the vibe of the first part but could never pin it down!)

[@RoyalKingOliver]

It took Doctor Who 9 series 9 SERIES to capture the glory and perfection of a Series Finale. With the Exception of Series 1, Doctor Who’s finales have always been fumbled, only saved by Christmas Specials or the 50th anniversary. But Series 10 manages to end on the highest note possible to man. The 1-2 punch of this finale is so gut wrenching that I’m left in genuine tears. I’ve never really cried much in a Doctor Who story, but this one takes the cake due to how tragic it is. AND I DONT CARE HOW THEY WROTE TWICE UPON A TIME, Peter Capaldi’s send off is legendary and everybody needs to relish it now because after this… the show is never the same again.

[@Comicbroe405]

Wait what's with the Doomsday disrespect? That was a good finale too tho obviously not on Parting of the Ways level.

[@Astropine]

@@Comicbroe405 plus stolen earth/journey's end makes for a banger finale

[@Comicbroe405]

@Astropine Yeah I love those too.

[@BlueSparxLPs]

Imagine how unbearable a showerunner is gonna be if they actually manage to write a better finale. I cannot imagine a world where it's even possible to top this. It's genuinely my favorite finale of any show I've ever watched.

[@killianobrien2007]

Pamdorica opens/big bang too

[@Polar-Guard]

NO!!! That Torchwood spoiler was uncalled for (I'm still watching it)...

[@DuncanJMcMillan]

If it makes you feel any better I edited that section and haven't made it to that episode either 😢

[@RobbieMartin745]

All may not be as it seems...

[@aloysiusthefish7076]

When Cyber-Bill tells the Doctor she's usually into girls, and people her own age, it's her playfully telling him that she loves him... platonically of course, but that his heroism and bravery in this moment is everything that she loves about him.

[@callumhaigh8233]

I also feel like 12 refusing to regenerate was because this incarnation had failed to live up to his promise of being a good man what with bill, nardole and the two masters having to leave to their deaths. He felt like he’d failed and couldn’t bear to live as a result

[@jbfangirl]

This finale was incredible. I always place it in 2nd place right behind Heaven Sent/Hell Bent. It truly was the perfect end for the Master. As for Bill and that one line. It wasn't about reminding the Doctor she was into girls and people her own age. She was communicating that she loved that he knew that about her. He was probably the only adult in her life that really knew her and saw her for who she was. The scene of Bill crying over 12's body with that music in the background never ceases to break my heart.

[@DrWhoFanJ]

So third place, then, since you’ve put it behind two stories.

[@jbfangirl]

@@DrWhoFanJ I tend to count 2-parters as 1 story a lot of the time.

[@unorthodoxbox]

Iirc this is when VFX artist John Smith began to be involved with Doctor Who starting with the black hole. You see their work a lot throughout the Jodie Whittaker era.

[@Yickerd]

Yeah it does look similar to the VFX used during the Chibnal era

[@nickloschen2717]

After Heaven Sent, I didn't think Moffat could write another masterpiece but he did and boy is this two part finale good. World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls is not only the best, or one of the best, Cybermen stories in the history of the show but one of the best stories period!

[@neilcoatham]

I like to think that Simm regenerated into Sacha Master that's why he was still a madman

[@vullord666]

That can certainly be a retcon, but this episode has Missy confirm that Simm regenerates into Missy next. The regeneration itself was missing details because it occurred during a timeline crossing event where Missy kills her past self, but after that she seems pretty clear on the matter. And it's not like Chibnall's era established a mind wipe of any kind, so that Missy doesn't remember being the Sacha Master and can make the mistake of thinking she's next. Chibnall just made it a mess and couldn't even be bothered to fix his mess.

[@AdamRosevear-l3b]

Thank you Harbo

[@beauvogames]

I had actually forgotten (or missed) that Simm was gonna be in the series, so the reveal was actually a nice, genuine surprise for me back in the day haha and yeah I think I liked Simm's Master the most during this finale 😊

[@bodhithemetahuman2531]

You know the sad thing about Missy? She would ultimately be responsible for making The Lumiat (a good version of The Master) go bad again.

[@unitedstatesofamericareal]

i'm really lucky that reveal wasn't spoiled for me, i had no idea it was revealed in the trailers. it was an amazing reveal in the episode, and one of my favourite dr who moments of all time

[@DrWhoFanJ]

The trailers are part of the episodes.

[@unitedstatesofamericareal]

@@DrWhoFanJ if you're talking about the preview for the "next time on" then i don't watch them

[@JamesBa08]

I’ve been really excited to see this one!!

[@LexTan]

35:00 - I actually really like this line and it fits well because not only does it refer back to their first episode where Bill becomes the companion, but it also shows that even as a Cyberman, The Doctor actually sees her for the person that she is. In her first episode, it did seem a little bit weird to bring that up because even though the audience knows that the modern Doctors have a penchant for exploring romances, Bill doesn't know that, and it sort of comes across like she's a bit full of herself. Especially how we've already seen instances such as how 12 sees the elderly Clara no differently than when she was young and beautiful, it comes as no surprise to me that 12 would also see Bill as the human she once was and continues to treat her as such. And I'm glad to see that Bill does see the Doctor for who he is as well.

[@rhodrage]

Of the 3 Master/Cybermen Finales we got between Series 8 and 12, this was the best. The Master must really love Cybermen...

[@dylanburton4955]

The Master been flirty towards Missy always made sense to me more then when Moffat did it in other characters Cuz the master is so egotistical and full of himself that it makes sense he’d be into his female counterpart Capaldi absolutely knocks it out of the park in these episodes, he always does but these episodes really hammer home just how fantastic he is in the role His monologue is probably my favourite from the entire show and particularly my favourite 12th Doctor speech

[@pokemaniacalex8031]

I love that they gave The Master back his beard.

[@througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914]

@23:08 - So the 12th Doctor made the cybermen on mondas able to convert timelords to attack the master & missy... BUT this means they were able to be cybermasters (cybermen timelords) when the crazy Dawan Master went to Gallifrey vs the 13th Doctor... brilliant return to capaldi lore in the chibnall era in hindsight

[@rileymartin2202]

The reason for Bill making sure he knew about her liking girls was there because the whole reason bill loved the doctor was because he was basically the parent she never had who just accepted her for who she was and didn’t judge her because of it and when adding in he whole 10 years she spent and her fighting against the cyberman brain it’s no wonder that when she believed she was dying she wanted to make sure their bond was pure. The whole theme of series 10 was about judgement, the judgement of missy, the judgement of the villains being misunderstood, how capitalism doesn’t value the people behind the jobs, how the monks wrongly judged love, how the ice warriors weren’t in the wrong, how both the romans and celts could be together instead of judging each other because they couldn’t understand each other before the translation and then how bill misplaces her judgement in razon before she finds out he’s the master and then how the doctor judges himself finally as a good man and missy is able to judge herself morally different than the master

[@abookishdragon4691]

Nine seconds ago. Right in the middle of lunch. The timing could not be better. Thanks Harbo!

[@herbivarsawus4359]

The BF audio Spare Parts has a TODDLER getting Cyber-converted!

[@mattevans4377]

I know Twice Upon a Time is looked down upon as the final episode of Capaldi, compared to this, but I think the end message of Twice Upon a Time more than makes up for it. Can't wait to see the review of that special

[@xGOKOPx]

I think that Dhawn's Master being evil again is perfectly understandable in context of the whole timeless child thing. The place where Missy is coming from is that she and the Doctor are *equals*. They're old friends who fell off but they're really like each other, they're both very clever time lords who ran away from Gallifrey, just with a bit of a different concept of what to do out there. When Dhawn's Master finds out about the timeless child, he realizes that he's never been, and never will be equal to the Doctor. That the Doctor is inherently something superior to him. And he can't accept that; it drives him into insanity. This idea fits well into the self-loathing that this Master displays all the time

[@sycaccino8533]

It certainly has a case for being best. I like s1 and s2's finale a bit more but s10's is a close 3rd. I think the only real flaws are CyberBill being revealed twice, some strange out of nowhhere lines from Bill, lack of development of the village residents and the doctor somehow not being turned into paste by the massive explosion.

[@vinyllloyd5259]

Honestly, I would love to see you move on to reviewing the classic series after this. Whenever I'm in the mood to watch Doctor Who, I always find that my constant rewatching the series has made it a bit stail. However, a youtube series like this gives me the same dr who content but in a different way, that I never get bored of!! :)

[@emmiannon1266]

Heather doesnt really "uncybetman" bill, she effectiveley becomes a ghost. her body dies and she gets to live forever with her girlfriend. She dies and goes to heaven.

[@ThisTrainIsLost]

(At the c. 28min mark) When the topic is the Cybermen, the narrator's use of the term "body horror" is both fitting and accurate. This prompted an idea that may be ideal. If it's body horror that you're hunting, see if you can get David Cronenberg to direct a Dr. Who episode that features the Cybermen. It may be too tight a stereotype but many do conflate Cronenberg and said body horror. An easily understood conceptual equivalence.

[@rivwilson9330]

Genuinely curious if you're going to re-review the chibnall era. Thank you for doing this one. I have been looking forward to your review of this story for so long. Worth it.

[@acanimations1223]

As someone who hasn’t finished torchwood that was not something I needed to hear 😭, obviously not blaming you for spoiling something 16 years old, just, what a spoiler

[@R.senals_Arsenal]

This should have been the Master's ultimate fate OR a pivotal step in character development for them. But then we got a return to mustache twirling 80s style Master - yawn. The lost potential still irks me endlessly. As for Bill's end being undone... "Well That's Alright Then!"

[@nairrdlairrd]

I don’t remember where I first saw this suggested, but I recently had my mind blown when someone pointed out that Missy could have been showing the Doctor her hidden blade when they grabbed arms before she left. It would explain the look of shock on the Doctor’s face and give some closure to her anonymous death, allowing for headcanons of the Doctor knowing what she did and being able to guess what might have resulted.

[@mirawest8510]

I don't know why people consider Missy's death a conclusive end to The Master's character arc. We've seen over and over that the circumstances of a Time Lord's death will influence the next form they will take (10 being pretty for Rose, 11 being dissociated because he barely dodged regenerating outside Rose's house and being defined by her AGAIN, 12 being honest and raw because 11 aged to death and was tired of running from himself). The Master saw his future, was confronted by Missy's need for friendship with the Doctor and it forced him to change into her in another Bootstrap Paradox. But in Missy's case, she tried to be friends with the Doctor, even trying to change who she was as a person for him, and was sabotaged and killed by her past just when it was starting to work. The next regeneration would be formed under the conditions of knowing they want and need the Doctor's friendship AND feeling like that friendship isn't possible because of who they are as a person. The next Master under a competent writer (womp womp) could've gotten so much narrative meat out of what happened to Missy

[@tomhibbert6486]

Probably the best season finale for doctor who ever and a great final battle for the 12th doctor Love this review

[@superkid801]

It is so good! What a finale it was! I love the Doctor's speech about kindness. Two Masters was so much fun! It is a great finale! Love the Cyberman! Excellent video!

[@lunaeclipse4304]

26:30 as a trans person, im shocked i've never thought of that comparison before. that's a brilliant comparison

[@IK-11-l1m]

I strongly agree with you on everything except Bill's death. If she were gone for good, that would have been un-doctor who and my heart would have shattered. The Missy's storyline was painful enough for two.

[@AnythingMachine]

The last episode of Doctor Who

[@DrWhoFanJ]

Wrong.

[@blindnerd4871]

23:13 The only thing he changed was a variable for what parameters in the Cyberman's mainframe was for humans. He changed one variable so instead of looking for any lifeform resembling humans with one heart, they would be looking for any with two hearts.

[@emmiannon1266]

Twice upon a time is a good followup from this. 12s death is already assured, this is just his "final tour" "victory lap" is you will.

[@spamhands6993]

I really wished I watched more of Capaldi's Era during its run, but the anecdote of the series 10 trailer and this episode spoiling the Master's return makes me a little glad I didn't, so I didn't get spoiled. I knew the Master was in this 2 parter, thanks clips of Capaldi's amazing speech, "Without witness, without reward", but it genuinely surprised me, seeing the wacky homeless man in the hospital was actually the Saxon master, especially since this was when I was watching the revived era I didn't see and revisit the episodes I did see.

[@JRHainsworth]

32:00 He's at the top, it would be the opposite. It would probably have been an hour or so.

[@jackbasley]

i personally love Bill’s ending. it’s one of my favourite moments of queer joy on TV and i’m so glad it happened on my favourite show of all places.

[@dw7704]

Stuff like this is why Capaldi is my favourite Doctor

[@tbcDavben]

This is my favorite story of all of Who. It just gets better every rewatch

[@througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914]

they brought back the BiL simplicity in Joy to the world 2024, the lesbian woman in the train affirms her love of a woman vocally to a man. The Doctor helped he affirm her lesbianism firmly and vocally. Yes Ncuti helped sa he says and as most won't understand

[@CartoonPostYT]

I love this finale so much

[@deanemayer466]

Strongly agree

[@Tommacbaker]

52 minutes? we’re in for a trip 😁

[@Sigurd-r5]

The music is great in this episode. One of Golds' best.

[@rhysdehaan]

World enough and time is THE BEST EPISODE EVER

[@guypainter]

DW has had its LAST finale because all that's left is the title. Chibnall killed it and RTD pissed all over its corpse.

[@edoardoprevelato6577]

I fought for 1 hour and 4 minutes in the last mission of Halo Reach.

[@BarioIDL]

45:00 would be neat for testimony to stop bill's time and extract her memories here, maybe heather is the ship's oil or something

[@slumdogjay]

Outstanding finale. Also my favourite 2 parter of the modern era.

[@Jayforeman3047]

If I could go back in time and give one piece of advice to the Series 10 trailers it would be to NOT feature John Simm because as soon as we see/hear Razor we can quite easily work it out.

[@bexly96]

The Missy/Master death scene was the perfect culmination of "without hope, without witness, without reward"

[@andrewcross5290]

I don't think Series 10, as a whole, had the highest quality episodes compared to S8-9, but I can't argue that the finale was incredible! Capaldi's arc coming to an end as the gentle professor who chooses to be good despite it costing his life, compared to who he was in S8, is Moffat & Capaldi's Magnus opus of the Doctor Who world. Twice Upon A Time worked surprisingly well considering it was never the original intention for Capaldi's exit. Is it the best finale of the show, no, I think either Series 1 or 4 still takes the biscuit for me, but Capaldi's acting range alone made this one of the best, undoubtedly.

[@scifigeek14]

I watched this late so i didn't get any spoilers and i was soooo jazzed when i made the cyberman connection. This one is a top tier cyberman AND dr who story.

[@thekandyman.]

This is the best doctor who story

[@robert2108]

I didn't watch capaldis era until last year and I had ZERO idea that John Simm was coming back. He's genuinely one of my favourite actors of all time so I lost it.

[@nomohakon6257]

The Doctor died when Clara erased herself from his memory.

[@CJ-qp7hi]

12 convincing his past self to regenerate with knowledge of future events trapped 1 to become 12. He had to save Galifray to create the cracks to live to become 12th doctor. If 12 is the reason for his first regeneration after this point makes the doctor a fixed event.. As 1 and 12 regenerated. The Tardis reacted by dropping 13 to earth. An immortal Time-lord, unknowingly heading to become the timless child to rewrite the past, creating the division timeline where the doctor becomes the fugitive. 13s Tardis saved fugitive as 13 fell. 13 found the Tardis after fugitive at ghost Monument after the fugitive, leading 13 to the rewritten past Spy master, then the division and flux.

[@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502]

This would have been the perfect send-off for Capaldis doctor, and im still kinda bummed it wasn't his last episode.

[@jessicaable5095]

Might be a silly question but, at the end when you said "and, as always, I'll see you in the next one... For the penultimate time", are you just refurring to our time with the Twelth doctor, or are you planning on avoiding the thirtheenth? Or maybe you've already covered her episodes. That might be the case (though I can't see it in your playlists), I think I started watching you after falling off Jodie's second season so I have no clue 😅

[@olived9560]

He reviewed 13’s episodes live!

[@jessicaable5095]

@olived9560 Oooooh, OK 😊

[@sanddagger36]

immortality is nothing new for science fiction, but Doctor Who's phoenix style immortality makes his story of never dying slightly more sad. He gets to taste death but never actually get there. He can't even lay down and rest because his body is brand new a moment later.

[@selatidos]

i loved and still love 12,it's a shame his true finale ended being twice upon a time, because everyone outside Moffat and chibs are right and the doctor falls is a good season finale

[@gamercore7833]

Love your vids man

[@Dalekscientist]

36:56 *mavitas

[@lewisward7956]

I stopped watching doctor who at the end of Matt Smiths run as a kid and I watched all of the revival for the 60th anniversary including going through Capaldis run without any knowledge of how it goes and this finale had my jaw on the floor for the entire 2 parts and I’m one of the very few who were blessed to see this without any spoilers

[@DrWhoFanJ]

Said no-one with a brain ever.

[@leshiy_nd]

I wish I could act so brilliantly at the last moment as Moffat does χD Had to change 9 for a War Doctor => had put 11 at the last life => knowing, that everybody counts that, puts two future Doctors in within 10 min span => 12, being right after finishing up the regeneration cycle but still being alive, doubting in his own nature => 12 accepting himself but almost immediately loosing everyone and being tired of the whole Who Am I cycle => 12 being reassured that he's good and there's still good in this silly old universe. AND I JUST LOVE THIS SHIT 😂 P.S. When the hell the TARDIS' gonna throw in Doctor's face the shoes of the Flesh Doctor (aka clone of 11)??!?

[@MrExplosion449]

It’s such a shame that John Simm was leaked beforehand because the cliffhanger would have been so much better if it had been a surprise

[@DeedeeDirt]

wow i did not remember the master putting on eyeliner scene

[@guerintueno2066]

The ending shows how well Davies knew the Doctor - Compassion then. It grows strong in you like a cancer. It will kill you in the end. 12: I wouldn’t die any other way.

[@cactusisez3505]

Greatest Ever Doctor Who Finale? Yes, I'd say it's THE finale, if there ever was to be a "final episode" of Doctor Who, this would be my pick 1000x over

[@mUbase]

Fantastic synopsis and review of yet another stone cold classic of the Capaldi era ! x

[@chriso5507]

I will never forgive them for spoiling the ENTIRE episode in the trailer. If that hadn't happened it would've been damn near perfect

[@warrenny1168]

The greatest ever episodes imo. Ive been waiting for this review

[@warrenny1168]

The speech is-one of my fav moments of doctor who. Describes what the doctor should be

[@LittleWeekendWarriors]

Absolutely. The show should have ended here, although twice upon a time was pretty good as a special.