The Greatest Low Elo Black Forest Ever! (Low Elo Legends)

Black Forest is one of the most nostalgic AoE2 maps for many, and in this game we have two lower ranked players facing off on it. I've seen a lot of games but this right here might be one of the best BF games I've seen. Just wild!
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[@The76Malibu]

Did I make it to the 2 hour mark? This game DEMANDED it. Blue's micro is unbelievable. The legend of Lil-Onager.

[@EpitomeProductionz]

yesss

[@dach829]

I never make it this long in a video lol

[@Andythrax]

Ron-ager* tyvm

[@kR-qj7rw]

The smol onager that could !! (Flatten fucking hundreds of units )

[@alexdrockhound9497]

same

[@Clairvoire]

This is 100% the reason I bought this game as a kid. Loved playing 3 hour long black forest games in the age of kings demo where you could only reach castle age

[@aalexandromoreno]

Is that the key to getting those really long slug it out games against AI, limiting the game to castle age? The way it is now for me is EITHER I crush them with minimal resistance or they catch me way too early with a gigantic army I'm not prepared to fight. So game don't tend to go past the hour mark. It's just one long battle. I want a long ass game like when I was a kid, when the AI gave me time to warm up, but wouldn't skimp on the army/vill production 40 minutes into the game. Sorry I'm high.

[@solorollo9756]

@@aalexandromoreno that’s what I do. Once bombards and trebs enter the game, defensives become less of a hinderance, and thusly the game ends more quickly

[@inseerlink3511]

lmao same 😂

[@saltrocklamp199]

@@aalexandromoreno I have the same experience and memory. I remember playing arena games against the AI that would last hours and hours and hours, sometimes I'd have saved games that I never finished. I had the full game so I got to Imperial, but I just didn't understand how to set up enough military production to take their huge bases, and if I made any progress, they would rebuild by the time I had more army up. In HD I just get archer rushed and die. I think they changed the AI since the original version. Then again, I haven't been playing arena on HD either.

[@aalexandromoreno]

@@saltrocklamp199 evolved AI is what it is, but perhaps the key is extra big maps with enough space and resources to expand and limiting the population to 75 like it used to be or not allowing imperial? Wasn't the pop limit only about 50 in AOE 1? That's what I got stuck on the idea of having 6 villagers on each resource. And the game just moved much more slowly. But I too remember games so long I'd save them and then forget to come back to them.

[@spyrosp8350]

Played AoE when it was released back in 1998, i was 12 . Played for years but never online and mainly created custom maps to demolish AI.My last game should be around 2005. I found your vids and , my god, they took me back .. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I bought the AoE2 and I am trying to brush the rust off. Thank you for that gift, hope we will meet around the "black forest".

[@ihmpall]

Yes it’s a refuge for us aging millennials

[@joel_seth_media]

You're not alone

[@samtheman1893]

T90s vids brought me back to AOE2 some years ago, definitely pick it back up, it's worth it.

[@tysondog843]

Same, though I was a little older than 12. I would struggle against 2 AI, even on easy, so I stopped playing. I found this channel, realized there's 'build orders', 'match up's' etc. Dusted off the old Original game, and Smashed the AI (on easy though), but still a Marked improvement. Dave AOE also does great vids. Hera, a Top player does great strategy breakdowns on his channel. I'll be giving myself AoE2 for Christmas this year. Hope to get high enough Elo to have a battle with you in the future... Good luck.

[@crownofglory1264]

when producing vils or units form buildings, dont forget to hold shift when clicking so you create 5 at a time, more efficient. Also, if you're in apinch, hold alt then press f4 if you need to create units from ALL military buildings. Peace.

[@zinic53000]

This is peak aoe2. Amazing game. RIP Ronoger.

[@shino4242]

His son Ronager II tried to live up to his fathers legacy, but the shoes were too big to fill. But his grandson, Ronager III had the spirit of his grandfather in him. He came down on the malian bastards like a force of nature. An avalache of death. His grandfather merely held the lines. Ronager III took the fight to them.

[@seth9829]

Some of those Ronager shots were killing 25 at a time, what a game

[@MLandriganReid]

can we possibly keep an eye on blues career and see how far he goes?

[@dearestcomrade8638]

Yeah, would love to see what this mad man does to keep him at 550. God, those onager shots were sick!

[@Arkangel630]

@@dearestcomrade8638 he has really weak eco game, can't macro at all, but god he's a micro god

[@Ryzot]

i don't understand where he is finding these people. the level of stupid things that happens is crazy.

[@VenomGamingCenter]

Blue is a smurf

[@sephyrias883]

According to Age II: DE Stats, the user who played blue here climbed up to 886 ELO with 108 wins.

[@bedviere]

this was so awesome, that micro for 550 elo was legendary. We even got to a point where red had less gold than blue despite taking half of his too 11

[@MakerDavid]

Blue's micro deserves a medal

[@DavidSmith-mt7tb]

This should have been the legend of Ronager or something. Dang, there were some truly punishing onager shots in this game.

[@737smartin]

Ronager was AMAZING! One unit with over 90 kills. 😳 I expected more of a "life celebration" moment from T-900 over that one. Other than that, his commentary was SO GOOD (as usual). Love his ability to balance humor, sarcasm, coaching, and respect for the effort in his reviews. 👍

[@DavidSmith-mt7tb]

@@737smartin He had good KDs on most the onagers. Yet his KD lead wasn't that high. So the onagers must have made up a huge percentage of his damage for how few there actually were.

[@TheVerrm]

Exactly, he should change nickname to Lil-Ronager :)

[@phili.6241]

Sheeeeesh... Started playing ranked games recently and have been sliding down to my Elo thinking I may settle around 700, but watching blues micro I think I may have a few more games to lose.... That Oneger micro was nuts!

[@basicboomer519]

But micro, I don’t even do that and I’m 1k elo now. Macro will overcome micro though.

[@BrentTJo]

Nah, Blue is a 550 player with 1550 mico skill.

[@VenomGamingCenter]

He's a smurf just stomping newbies

[@themachine9366]

Nah. I think although blue micro was good (and I rooted for blue all game), he did not lose because of red passivity and refusal to raid. If red decided at any point to just send calv and attack villagers constantly while running away from the onagers, Blue would have lost. Red tried to just charge a player with superior micro head on instead of using the mobility advantage of its unit composition and avoid the micro all together.

[@Ryoushi_Akanagi]

I usually make it through the videos no matter their length by just leaving them open while I do stuff on blender or Photoshop. I tab out during breaks and meals to watch, then pause it to continue working. It's pretty relaxing.

[@davidwatson9073]

Those onager shots gave him the game, GG!

[@tomsbondars]

How is blue at 550ELO?! Like a year ago that ELO would be all SimCity in there.

[@gothia6515]

His eco needs to improve alot and he needs more experience with establishing map-control in the early-mid game. But yeah, if he improves that, he could rise alot. Little micro god there :)

[@GamingBT]

I'd say it's because you need a good balance between micro and macro. His micro is great, especially with mangos, but his macro needs a lot of work! Awesome game though

[@VenomGamingCenter]

Blue is a smurf. Doing bad things on purpose to get his elo low enough to stomp newbies at the bottom of the ladder

[@tomsbondars]

@@VenomGamingCenter don't think so. He's obviously good a micro, but lacks elsewhere. If he can improve a thing or two, he can definitely go up a lot

[@Sids1192]

Even when Red had 10k+ more gold through most of the game, Blue still maintained a really good K/D. Trash rarely trade well on numbers, but Blue managed it.

[@phoenix3992]

1:24:42 Absolute favorite Onager shot of all time.

[@737smartin]

It’s like red’s army units started looking for somewhere to lie down whenever blue’s onagers came on scene. Dude killed FIFTEEN arbalests in that one epic shot!

[@johnjackson3349]

Ditto. That was painful and awesome to watch at the same time. I've never seen so many sick onager shots in one game. And he only used one at a time! Like a boss...

[@Oberon4278]

That was basically a trick shot. I bet the onager crew was posing for a selfie while they lined it up.

[@spiralphoenix9839]

Mine is the 1:29:00 shots. Two shots with massive casualties.

[@spanzotab]

@@spiralphoenix9839 Yeah that second one was red paint

[@tambow44]

Onager, MVP. Honestly, this was more exciting than a lot of the RBWL matches.

[@samwisegamgee8318]

This game is a certified banger, one of the best I've seen.

[@readsomebooks666]

You know what drove me mental? The fact that Blue was doing all that with just scale mail on infantry.

[@michaelwarkentin8163]

Joooo nice awareness

[@rizrizriz]

Can we have a moment of silence for Ronager and his sons. RIP. The siege. The Legend.

[@hatterson]

I absolutely love when the video is at a point where I'm watching and think "well, looks like this is just about wrapped up" and then see that it's only 1/3 of the way through. Means there's some content to come!

[@impartingsea429]

I never played or seen this game before, but I recently got recommended your videos for some reason and even when I don't know the technicalities of how its played I can still piece together what's going on and find it very entertaining. I might buy the game because if watching is this much fun maybe playing is as well.

[@XZellTheBest]

Age of Empires 2: DEFINITIVE EDITION (is important this edition if you want to easily play with other people online)

[@Earnie8]

It's a lot of fun, the GOAT of RTS games but, yeah, it can be stressful.

[@BillyBlaze6907]

Go for it!

[@GamingBT]

100% recommend it. The game is more alive than ever - loads of people playing it. High elo, low elo, doesn't matter. You'll find an opponent who's on your level and every game is unique in its own way. Good luck!

[@Ltulrich]

Playing it is definitely not as much fun as watching it.

[@TheJim9191]

Honestly, red will jump up by 100 ELO and blue by 200 ELO if they just discover what the market does.

[@sandmaenchen]

Watched without skipping from start to finish. This game truly was worthy of the word 'legend' in its title.

[@muroderepolho69]

I love low elo boyfriend

[@spoody4789]

i think the reason i can watch a 2h t90 bf video is that ive never clicked on a "clickbaity title" t90 video that was not 100% worth it love this stuff after work

[@gnalter]

well the title says it all. let's lean back and enjoy T90's commentary on that one :D

[@Addictivemeh]

Blue reminds me so much of me when I started playing ranked games. You practice the micro for hours and hours and actually get pretty decent for your elo but it comes at the expense of forgetting your eco Going to be such a level up moment for him when he remembers to just spam create units on top of his strategy

[@marc6851]

I have never played the game and barely understand it but geez dude the way you are giving commentary makes it so damm enjoying

[@DautFromX]

What a game! And the BEST thing about is that chat said that blue was gonna resign when red started his attack

[@charlesmarlowstanfield]

I made it the two hours. What an insane game.

[@HabitualLineStepperrr]

"Koyuncu" is what the villagers say when you task them to sheep when playing as Turks

[@okanu.407]

Koyun means *Sheep* in turkish.

[@TaranAlvein]

Holy crap, what an amazing game. THIS is low-ELO these days? That's terrifying! I feel like after a game like this, Blue could teach a masterclass on unit micro and asymmetrical warfare! I sent this video to a friend, calling it "Shades of Ace Combat 04" for its storyline. What an amazing play by Lil-CurryMuncha! I'll be surprised if he's not either a smurf, or a future solid mid-ELO player at least.

[@toku_fox]

Love the vids man, long ones like this I use almost like podcasts while I work my data entry jobs, looking up to get a break from the monotony whenever something exciting happens in the gameplay

[@Zarren_Redacted]

RIP Ronager.

[@ageofstrange657]

Nice back and forth fighting with solid army control, eco and production are decent as well to back it up. Not perfect of course but for that elo this seems very good. Very fun to watch. Props to both players.

[@isoaxe]

1:29:13 The most satisfying 10 seconds of the game starts here.

[@PM-lz8cy]

how are these guys ~500 elo? they played so smart! maybe sth with the early game macro?

[@johann3769]

Thx. Im not 550 anymore tho. Im at 700 now

[@ivanstrydom8417]

I love "Nomads". It is such a fitting tech for the Mongols and comes in clutch especially in Nomad maps where you use your mobile cavalry to outflank and harras enemy forces/eco when you are heavily outnumbered and overrun. I have won numerous battles as the Mongols just because I did not have to worry about building houses anywhere and when they get taken down, slowing the enemies advance as I hit them from different angles. This brilliant Mongol victory all started with the Nomads tech ,freeing the player from worrying about being housed and focussing on his superb battlefield command.

[@rsurish377]

If you would have told me at 50:00 that blue was going to win this game, I would've 11 in your face. What a game.

[@nicholaswoollhead6830]

This was insane. I'm 1k Elo and have 1/10th of Blues onager skill

[@mr_hwe3796]

The wait paid off

[@NikkoJT]

What a game. What an onager play. WHAT AN ONAGER PLAY! Oh my god. Splat after splat. Incredible.

[@colinsandstrom8030]

This one took me about a week of 20 minute stints between work and sleep... but I finished it. Worth it.

[@akatoshgaming1737]

T90, I watch 100% of all your videos... but on 2x speed 🤣your normal voice sounds so deep whenever its not sped up so much LOL

[@aliasanonym9778]

24:21 ah yes, way too realistic. Who doesn't remember the Malian folklore story where a peaceful boar in an enemy village has been crushed by a freaking trebuchet shot :D It's a classic and childrens bedtime favourite.

[@ROHIT-kx4kz]

Even Genghis Khan would not have used Onagers so effectively in battles like Blue did today. GG.

[@WelcomeToTheGooniverse]

Made it to two hour mark. NGL I saw the title and thought, "Ok, suuuuure...." But this has honestly been an epic game. Blue's micro is amazing for this elo.

[@uzukiltd.4133]

So sad to see red lose when all they had to do was capitalize on their early pushes. RIP

[@eoghan7949]

Blue is a legend, we need more of him

[@torqueblue]

I made it through the whole video man, You getting excited and trash talking around 1:17:00 was funny as hell.

[@bacitisful]

I love how T90 is generally so supportive of the low-elo players, but that comment at the end > I'd love to see the gg but I'm not even sure players at this elo know how to type Absolutely savage, just because they're new to the game doesn't mean haven't made it out of grade school yet

[@SignatureEdits]

This was a very low quality Low Elo! Bring back the ones that are truly legends :)

[@ryanp0342]

How did I not I realize shift clicking could be used for producing units when I use it to sell resources in the market all the time. No wonder I can’t keep up late game.

[@nathan_aus]

Great viedo, watched the whole thing from start to finish.

[@matousmalinsky9543]

Sitting thru lot of the games you put out here for a long time here

[@Dorfjunge]

I never saw units with that many kills as blues onagers!!!

[@callanbrown8571]

You have to cast curry muncha again. Loved watching him. Made it the whole video btw

[@DavidLayM]

wow, great game, made it to the end in one sitting too :)

[@waylandertheslayer3259]

Absolutely amazing game. Red should have won so many times but Blue’s onager micro was incredible. GG

[@TenkaEmpiresFFA]

2h mark? Yeah every minute, beautiful onager shots all over the game

[@aangtonio5570]

I recently discovered T90's LEL videos and they quickly became my favorite (and addictive) things to watch on YT. 👌 How to get featured on LEL, btw? (apart from being low elo, of course)

[@matthardy301]

Never saw you before, Love this format , players and retro feel. Easy sub

[@antelope6826]

Watched this entire game (shout out to T90's 2-hour mark ;) ) and loved every second of it. This was possibly the most impressive micro ever from a LEL. Blue was a powerhouse and just kept pushing through every challenge to win this

[@RolfStones]

T90 at 2 hour mark: thanks for staying this long! T90 at 2 hour 1 min mark: people with high retention rate watch ads more often... so... runs ad Or is this just coincidence? I think not 😂

[@historytim]

Damn it, why did I have to re-discover the T90 ELO legends videos. Made me think, HEY I can do this....nope....reminded how terrible I am at ranked matches hahaha. "Guys....plez....I am just trying to make a nice town...how is your score so high already?!" *confused screaming as bombard cannons appear on the hilltop*

[@zeroharp507]

In this game we see how much micro does for you. Red so much res. and units = blue's micro

[@stankozubenko8520]

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[@sigilbreaker2628]

I think what made this game amazing is that it started out almost comical with stuff like Ron, the trebuchet shot hitting a boar, the mills instead of houses etc and then it turned into a nailbiting match between a guy with clearly superior macro and a guy with clearly superior micro. Also the necessary white knuckle comeback.

[@Dorfjunge]

How is someone with this insane micro only 550 ELO? I'm in shock! He micros so much better than me and I am 900!

[@JimCullen]

I’ll admit my focus wasn’t 100% on it the whole time, but I’m at the 2 hour (in-game time) now and have made it the whole way so far, and probably paying more attention than I do to most long vids. It’s been worth it.

[@donsmith2046]

How old do you think these players are? And do you have stats on if we have new players that are below the age of 20

[@timothy6687]

Sick game. I was really rooting for red but the micro from blue was fantastic. gg

[@TheAstraios]

T90 we totally have to watch another one of Curry Munchers games just encase we get another Ronager. The mans a god. Best game I've watched all year xD

[@gildeddrake1479]

I don't think it's right to call this low elo. they obvisouly both know a lot about the game. and they try so hard. i'm like 900 elo but this 500 elo is intimidating me. also i watched the whole thing because i love your vids

[@volodask]

Oh shift + click to queue 5 units??? My life has now changed forever!

[@potapotapotapotapotapota]

If these guys worked on their early game they would easily be 1000 ELO... maybe they are smurfing

[@asummerday4448]

I was expecting something different with low ELO BF

[@kyleg7727]

Thought for sure that the title was hyperbolic/clickbait; turns out that the title “lowest elo ever” does indeed check out.

[@rickbiessman6084]

At the 1h mark I skipped ahead a bit - right to where T90 talks about people skipping ahead.

[@praevasc4299]

Wow, I never expected such strong game-play at 550 ELO! I thought it would be still sim city around that range! Is it because nowadays only seasoned players stay, and everyone else drops out, or fears playing ranged? If this continues, in a year or two there will be ELO 300 players who follow perfect build orders...

[@lloydlejack-official]

Jesus Christ, Blue's micro was insane ngl

[@indraallian6371]

Oh dear! What a feast: A great game with two great players. And T90´is really excelling in commenting LEL. Really funny and also giving some usefull tips (Shift-click) Well done T90! And FYI I never skip timelines in LEL games. I may some time glance at how much time is left but thats it. A benefit of watching on KZbin is that you can allways take a brake and watch the rest later if the game goes on very long😎

[@tambow44]

IDK if it was a mod, or I'm misremembering, but I'm pretty sure the OG Age of Kings had a delete button showing on units/buildings (whereas now, where it's a specifically a hotkey).

[@keithberwanger6595]

My brain remembers a delete icon and then another confirm delete button that was a skull. Either I am misremembering or it was in the original game because we didn't have no internet in the boonies back then.

[@KilgorGaming]

I made it! I was looking for a new strategy game to get into, saw a couple of your videos, and am hooked! Bought the game and am watching your videos like crazy to learn strategy and common mistakes :) love that you don't time-lapse and give good commentary

[@Kubinda12345]

A great competition between Red's macro and Blue's micro. This game is a perfect example why it's great to watch a Black Forest game and also why it's sometimes annoying to play. Also sometimes it's really shame that AoE doesn't have the mechanism where units level up based on the number of their kills.

[@dominickhadaroo4399]

Don't normally comment but this game was amazing I actually laughed out loud at some of those onager shots 😅

[@TheBdougs]

I think the shift + queue thing flew over us back in the day since we sucked so much our macro was never good enough to produce that many anyways. That and the campaigns usually had like criminally low population caps.

[@Niveous23]

Elo this low should never put up such a savage game. Holy smokes. These players are absolute units. I'd prolly uninstall the game if these two were my first match ups.

[@JGPlunder]

Around 6 minutes and 45 seconds he misses the opportunity to say Genghis Ron

[@Isaac-un4cn]

Ronager is a legend

[@DudeStone]

Those onagers were game changers for blue but damn what a back and forth game GG

[@nickyreynolds3326]

Two hours, yes. I have to go to class, but I’m going to finish this anyway.

[@meatwig]

this is sub 600 elo? fml. great game

[@WellBehavedLad]

Legendary siege onagers over there! gg!

[@sonofskeletor33]

Thank you for this game, T90. Just, thank you. Amazing.

[@LiteralyRealRyanGosling]

bring back 3 exploding kings where each player had 3 kings!

[@shanerooney7288]

How many videos have you commented this on so far?

[@GrumblezProductions]

@@shanerooney7288 not enough lol and I completely agree

[@LiteralyRealRyanGosling]

@@shanerooney7288 the last 3 videos I got this to be the first comment

[@LiteralyRealRyanGosling]

@@GrumblezProductions for you me and gammer kind I shall continue to do so until he makes anther one

[@TM-wm7om]

I couldn't stop watching this. You could make a video just showing blue's onager shots. I would like to see how blue does on other maps.

[@raiko995]

That was a fun game to watch.

[@RossPawley]

This game has an insane amount of twists and turns. I'm not even done watching it either.

[@TheBalthassar]

Does heated shot still affect camels, or did that stop when they split the camel/ship armour type?

[@Uraim]

A got AOE 2DE and i didn know how to play after like 5years (played classic way back, but the classic bots was piss poor bots :DD) im a gud low elo legend? i think about 550elo myself :D. I am now 800elo cuz im dropping somewhere :))) Those so low elos :)))