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The Greatest Overdrive Of All Time? (it's not a Klon)

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Rhett Shull

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@danielsheehan3783
@danielsheehan3783 2 жыл бұрын
Not calling this “The Greatest Overdrive of All Tim” was a huge missed opportunity
@clintwhite3021
@clintwhite3021 2 жыл бұрын
Missed opportunit "E"?
@MrBossei
@MrBossei 2 жыл бұрын
@@clintwhite3021 😆😆✌️
@prendelalumbreofficial714
@prendelalumbreofficial714 2 жыл бұрын
For reaaal
@sugatooth
@sugatooth 2 жыл бұрын
like dis if u cry ever Tim
@jacobhartmann1050
@jacobhartmann1050 2 жыл бұрын
Disappointing really
@potatomcfetus1205
@potatomcfetus1205 2 жыл бұрын
In 2012 I wanted Tim but couldn’t find where to order one. Finally I found a number to call to place the order and I actually spoke with Paul himself. I was astounded. He told me the Tim was designed for slightly dirtier amps and not really Fenders. Thought that was interesting.
@dlaroe
@dlaroe 2 жыл бұрын
The v3 came out in 2019 and the EQ controls are still cut only. The V3 and MXR are just reversed so no cut is fully clockwise instead of fully counter-clockwise. Humbucker has a good description of the v3 Timmy on their site.
@cluap
@cluap 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid - loved it! I do want to address some things about my V3. The tone controls are the same controls doing the same thing - they only cut and never boost. You mentioned the cut controls were counterintuitive in the original, so in this version ,as well as the MXR, I used reverse audio pots to flip the rotation to what seemed "normal". Everything is still there, but just at different knob settings - all the sounds are there. The boost toggle switch is pretty much the boost mode of the Tim cranked.
@brianhayes8076
@brianhayes8076 2 жыл бұрын
It was an interesting video, I guess, but he definitely lost me for a few reasons. First, he criticized the V3 for the EQ while not even taking the time to look up, or experiment with, how the controls work. Noon is not "null." It's the same cut knob, just turned the opposite way. Second he stated how the clipping switch didn't make a huge difference to his sound in the V2 but criticized the V3 for moving it inside to a dip switch. Lastly he recommended the MXR more than once while admitting he's never actually played one. It was kind of a lazy characterization of the V3, and an unwarranted recommendation for the MXR (which he had never played).
@matthewmoroney1258
@matthewmoroney1258 2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking when he was going over the v3. That’s the version that I have and I love it!
@CC-fi3pp
@CC-fi3pp 2 жыл бұрын
The V3 is arguably the best Timmy.
@JoelCaseyJonesMusic
@JoelCaseyJonesMusic Жыл бұрын
@@brianhayes8076 agreed
@averagemike7554
@averagemike7554 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't played a "real" timmy... But I picked up the MXR version a while back and have been really digging it. From light grit, to more drivey tones, the Timmy gets it done!
@maleekevans
@maleekevans 2 жыл бұрын
Same here I love mine
@djpgreek
@djpgreek 2 жыл бұрын
Ive had Tim, Timmy V2, V3 and now have MXR. All fantastic. The MXR is ust as great as V2…but smaller. I like that it still supports Paul C by purchasing
@chipsterb4946
@chipsterb4946 2 жыл бұрын
I like the MXR Timmy a LOT. It’s the last of 4 overdrives on my board, which tells you how much I like the EQ. It also adds a bit of compression that works really nicely for me.
@thaddeusfields4360
@thaddeusfields4360 2 жыл бұрын
@@djpgreek which version do you prefer?
@djpgreek
@djpgreek 2 жыл бұрын
@@thaddeusfields4360 I like the MXR
@Grant_Ferstat
@Grant_Ferstat 2 жыл бұрын
Full disclosure. Paul Cochrane is a dear friend of mine, but, with all of the many styles of pedals I have been through, I have still had a TIM or Timmy on my pedalboard constantly since 2005. Oh also. You're not completely understanding the V3 mode switch. It's more than a gain switch it also changes the way the EQ controls work somewhat. Radically changes what the bass control does.
@PeteMinda
@PeteMinda 2 жыл бұрын
For those on a budget, the Caline Pure Sky is a great clone of the Timmy. I actually like it better!
@BrianLeverett
@BrianLeverett 2 жыл бұрын
I have one and love it!
@clintwhite3021
@clintwhite3021 2 жыл бұрын
100% sooo good!!
@benink5690
@benink5690 2 жыл бұрын
Looked it up. So cheap $40!
@Stikbomz
@Stikbomz 2 жыл бұрын
Love mine. Wouldn't be without it
@justinhowell3527
@justinhowell3527 2 жыл бұрын
So good, For a while I kept trying other more expensive OD pedals thinking they must sound better because the Pure Sky was so cheap but I keep gong back to it because its really good. As far as build quality, I've had mine for 3-4 years now, its been on multiple boards, lugged back and forth weekly to my practice space for a couple years and its completely fine.
@BenCaffrey
@BenCaffrey 2 жыл бұрын
Rhett: “It’s just too saturated after this point, that’s too much gain for me” Me: “this is where I start” 🤷🏻‍♂️
@mattc5025
@mattc5025 2 жыл бұрын
I bought mine and it also came in the plain white box packed with a paper towel. If I had to sell all pedals and only have one for all time it would be the Timmy. Great review and demo as to why it's the GOAT imo.
@pauldigirolamo600
@pauldigirolamo600 2 жыл бұрын
I've owned a Tim since 2001 and agree it's one of the best ODs ever made. It was the original "transparent" overdrive, filling a big need at a time when you could really only get clean boosts or very colored overdrives like the TS/Klon/BB/OD-1/etc. I've also got the Timmy V1 which is incredibly useful and I've done more gigs with it than any other pedal I own. One of the coolest things about them that I don't think was mentioned is that the bass rolloff is pre-dirt to keep the low end tight and the treble rolloff is after the clipping to get rid of any added fizz. Also with gain at 9 and bass/treble full CCW it's basically just a flat clean boost. Brilliant design and totally unique at the time it came out. One measure of how great it is is how many builders have copied it since then (Lovepedal OD11, Vemuram Jan Ray, all the cheap MIC clones, etc) FWIW I think the bass/treble knob function was changed on the V3 b/c so many people seemed to have trouble understanding that the knobs on the original cut bass/treble as you move CW, like a high/low pass filter. Personally I found it very intuitive after 5 minutes and prefer the original setup but can understand why he went with a more traditional knob function. Also the gain switch was added to make it more like the Tim, which had less gain than the Timmy with the boost off and quite a bit more with the boost on. The toggle basically replaces the boost switch on the Tim. It also expands the range of low gain settings available on the gain pot with the switch off, again more like the original TIM.
@alexworle148
@alexworle148 2 жыл бұрын
I have the V3, and the EQ knobs are still cut controls like in the V2, they just work in the opposite direction.
@arn999
@arn999 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he really didn't get that right. No wonder he's a bit perplexed by the tone. The V3 sounds basically the same as the V2, you just have to eq it differently, obviously. As demonstrated in other KZbin vids.
@CC-fi3pp
@CC-fi3pp 2 жыл бұрын
The V3 is probably the best but they always all good.
@ElektroCuration
@ElektroCuration Жыл бұрын
The only difference between the tone pots from Timmy V2 to V3 is the earlier versions had reversed pots. The V3 has standard (non-reversed) pots, but other than that the tone stack is functionally identical between both versions.
@mdmusic2130
@mdmusic2130 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree:I don’t think the mini MXR is better than the Timmy V3…did you try the MXR?Well I did…I and it’s an ok pedal but it lacks of headroom and note clarity…so you can’t say that the MXR is better than the V3if you didn’t try yet…Please try it before say it and then comment on it… I use the V3 at 18 volts and it’s a fantastic overdrive…Paul didn’t do anything wrong with it…I can see the Timmy V2(I own one too)is a little darker but can match them easily and the extra gain in the V3 altered the EQ section and bass…Paul will never gonna make a new Timmy V3 and make it sounds bad…🤷🏻‍♂️
@CC-fi3pp
@CC-fi3pp 2 жыл бұрын
It's actually in some situations the 2nd best (if you use Vox amps the Hot Cake is the "best"). The Timmy V3 is the best of the bunch because it needs that extra gain to be used alone and not stacked to push a tube amp.
@lichen8855
@lichen8855 2 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration! They really do sound great! The vast majority of drive and distortion pedals, including the Timmy, have passive tone controls meaning, there is no boosting, only cutting. Boosting requires active circuitry (extra transistors/opamps) which can add a lot of complexity to a circuit. This active circuitry also adds noise so for most purposes, passive tone controls are completely sufficient.
@arn999
@arn999 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't understand how the eq controls work on the V3 and then you suggest instead a pedal you haven't tried? I mean...
@mickizzo
@mickizzo 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a Klon, Tim, Timmy, Lightspeed, Blackstone, Boiling Point, and just about everything in between. I tried the Nobels ODR-1 and hated it. Then for kicks I picked up a Nobels ODR-1 Mini used for $65 and it absolutely blew me away. If you haven’t already checked out the Mini I highly recommend it.
@wibblegorm
@wibblegorm 2 жыл бұрын
The mini is literally the same circuit as the ODR-1, lmao
@mickizzo
@mickizzo 2 жыл бұрын
You can laugh your ass off all you want wibblegorm, the mini sounds better.
@D1TemplarKnight
@D1TemplarKnight 2 жыл бұрын
No thanks...
@m0j0b0ne
@m0j0b0ne 2 жыл бұрын
I'm told that the only difference between the ODR1 and ODR Mini is a lo-cut defeat switch on newer ODR1s, so how do you explain your preference?
@mickizzo
@mickizzo 2 жыл бұрын
A very good question Mojo Bone. I haven’t de-engineered either so I don’t know the nuts & bolts. But after 40 years of live shows and untold studio time I do trust my ears and to my ears, the mini outshines the ODR-1. You should check them both out if you have the opportunity.
@GuitarSwan
@GuitarSwan 2 жыл бұрын
Picked up my Timmy used at the old Rock Block guitars in Nashville around 2014. Was like 130 bucks. Sales guy said the one thing about those is that they wouldn’t go down in value. That’s proven true. Though my switch went bad a couple times so there’s that. Paul fixed it himself the first time and the second time I took it to Eastside Music Supply. He may just use cheap switches. It’s a great pedal though. The only overdrive I’ve had that just always “works” with my hand wired AC15 in a live setting. I can see how bedroom guitarists may get them and be unimpressed though. To me the thing it’s great at is giving you more of your amp, and giving you that sound in the mix live.
@paulcowart3174
@paulcowart3174 2 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a LP from them if that's Nashville
@GuitarSwan
@GuitarSwan 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulcowart3174 Yep, cool spot.
@paulcowart3174
@paulcowart3174 2 жыл бұрын
@@GuitarSwan Indeed I'm thinking about sending my old Gibson 12 string for a neck reset
@GuitarSwan
@GuitarSwan 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulcowart3174 They have great techs there, I've had a headstock break repair done there.
@philipbrister
@philipbrister 2 жыл бұрын
Eventually Rhett will figure out the V3. It has so much more fidelity. I own both. Love both. If I had to sell one it would be the V2.
@mdmusic2130
@mdmusic2130 Жыл бұрын
Agree. The V3 it’s phenomenal.
@halfbakedschemes
@halfbakedschemes 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought a v3 during one of paul's drops and they still come parked with paper towels! Love it!
@valuedhumanoid6574
@valuedhumanoid6574 2 жыл бұрын
I am playing mine through a Blackstar HT Studio 20 1x12 Combo and it sounds fabulous. I have the MXR version from Sweetwater and it ran about $130 new. I have seen used and refurbished going for under $80. I was a Tube Screamer guy for years until I seen the light. Got rid of all 4 flavors. I play mostly classic metal (Iron Maiden, Priest, Ozzy) and this pedal gets you very close to that vibe. It is dependent on the pedals around it and the amp, but any decent tube amp will work well with it.
@ubertwerpify
@ubertwerpify 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! This was the info i was looking for…
@JoeMama410
@JoeMama410 2 жыл бұрын
My Fulldrive was on the fritz. I just opened up the TPDT switch and cleaned it out and it works like new. Glad it was an easy fix for you.
@westernrider100
@westernrider100 2 жыл бұрын
The Fulldrive [ I like the older blue FD2 and the JOYO version over the newer versions ] is a very under appreciated OD, and the two toggle switches make that pedal worth its weight in gold.
@Stratisfied22
@Stratisfied22 Жыл бұрын
I've used a ridiculous amount of OD pedals and the Timmy is definitely one of the best in my opinion. Klone, Morning Glory, TS808, always on my board as well.
@melodicshredder5834
@melodicshredder5834 Жыл бұрын
I have got all of these except the morning glory I have a rat. Timmy-Rat-808-Klon into modulation. How's your chain? Don't know if I should swap the Timmy and Klon as some people use klon as first stage drive pedal. I use Timmy as pre EQ to shape pickup tones when I connect different guitars and Klon for the solo boost. Correct me if I'm doing it wrong. Thank you.
@carveywright5770
@carveywright5770 2 жыл бұрын
I have a/b’d an mxr Timmy and a Timmy v2. I could not tell any difference between the 2 except the Timmy v2 had a “pop” when you engaged it. The mxr Timmy still has the bass/treble cut controls as well BUT they reversed them so as you turn up either you reducing the amount of cut which I like. It’s more like other eqs but maintains the character and uniqueness of the pedal. They did a stand up job with the mxr, and it’s mini so you can fit it on almost any board.
@altonwelch4991
@altonwelch4991 2 жыл бұрын
A Timmy has been on my board permanently since 2008 or so. I play both an American Tele and an older Korean Epi Casino in natural finish through either a Vox AC-15 or a 90's Matchless Lightning 2x10 combo and it sounds killer. I don't like a lot of overdrive, I set my amps to run edge of breakup and use the Timmy to push it over the edge! Glad to see you playing a Casino! Great guitars!!
@rikkousa
@rikkousa 2 жыл бұрын
@alton Welch, I did not know they made them in Korea!, I have a MIJ Epi Casino Elitist in natural finish…sold my 325 Ric Miami 64….play my casino through an AC 30 head and a variety of Fender cabs….love to get an AC-15 or 10….glad to see Rhett with a Casino too
@altonwelch4991
@altonwelch4991 2 жыл бұрын
@@rikkousa Yeah they made them in Korea from the late 90's until the mid 2000's before they moved production to China. Mine is just a regular late 90's Casino in Natural finish and I bought it used, but the previous owner put the black ring around the switch ala Lennon. And I found a strap that looks like his on the Rooftop concert. It's a great guitar. I've played it through a Fender DRRI, an Orange Tiny Terror, and my current amps, a Vox AC-15CC and a 90's Matchless Lightning. Sounds great through all of those amps. It will feed back in very loud settings but it's manageable.
@Grindstaff09
@Grindstaff09 11 ай бұрын
Congrats on the original Tim. I've got one too. Someone offered me 500...too low? Love it but could use the cash
@matthewgurlitz3514
@matthewgurlitz3514 6 ай бұрын
Anytime any builder puts what was an internal dip switch on the outside, I just love it. I do not like internal dip switches. I realize you can't always put everything on the top, but I don't like having to unscrew a pedal to change a sound.
@halbvaras5002
@halbvaras5002 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Drivin n Cryin demo riff - was in a band that opened for them yeeeeaaaaarrrrrssss ago!
@tl6058
@tl6058 2 жыл бұрын
YES!!!
@charleschezhyan2498
@charleschezhyan2498 2 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the song?
@bradswanson6788
@bradswanson6788 2 жыл бұрын
@@charleschezhyan2498 Honeysuckle Blue, covered recently by Jason Isbell, who happened to be in Atlanta last week, sooo….
@extendedlines
@extendedlines 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rhett- great video! I love the Timmy and have 3 of them. It’s super inspiring to play. You got one detail wrong about the V3 Timmy, though. The EQ controls are still ‘cut’ controls. You mentioned that flat EQ is in the middle and you can add or cut bass or treble. That isn’t accurate- they just cut. He just reversed the physical sweep of the knobs to function in a more maybe intuitive way. I just reviewed the manual page of my V3 to be certain. But thanks for all your great work!
@tjFalcon91
@tjFalcon91 2 жыл бұрын
I looked at my manual because I also thought Rhett was incorrect on that. So I can confirm your suspicion, same exact eq controls just reversed pots. And I never use the boost switch. Iv never played any of the previous models but the v3 sounds great to me
@timwhite5562
@timwhite5562 2 жыл бұрын
I've owned literally over a dozen Timmy's and a couple Tims. I wasn't eating them or anything, people would find out I had one and want to buy it (I never sold one) or trade me something that was a no brainer from my perspective. It wasn't a really long wait. Im going to be putting an order in at some point in the next week. Ive been using an old V2 that I put into an enclosure I made with a Zendrive. I sold that pedal a few years ago. I haven't tried to order one in 9-10 years. I remember having to go through Myspace. They used to be a couple weeks you had to wait, it wasn't bad. I liked the Tim, but the enclosure was way too high for my board. I never quite figured a use for the FX loop. I haven't played a V3 at all.
@m0j0b0ne
@m0j0b0ne 2 жыл бұрын
The best use is to stack a Danelectro French Toast Octave distortion in the loop, to negate that pedal's tone suck in bypass.
@rylieriley
@rylieriley 2 жыл бұрын
I have an orange Timmy with the clipping switch and a slightly modified circuit, and I love it. When you find the sweet spot, it instantly captures your heart, mind and soul. Someone would have to pry my orange Timmy out of my cold, dead hands to get it, because I'll never give it up😄.
@jossetishauser2040
@jossetishauser2040 6 ай бұрын
The difference between the clipping settings depends heavily on your amp settings and wether your amp clips symmetrically or asymmetrically. The bottom version is a bit grittier.
@stephenbedford1395
@stephenbedford1395 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to own Timmy but the cost here in the Land DownUnder is astronomical. So I'm content to use the Timmy model on my Line 6 HX Effects which sounds pretty good to my ears. I'm not a boutique purist (no offence) so I'm happy...
@thejonathandoan
@thejonathandoan 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Timmy V3 and I love it. I only bought it because Todd Nichols of Toad The Wet Sprocket (my favorite band of ALL TIME) uses one - the V1 and V2, I think. If it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me! I bought the V3 because it was actually available (though I had to get on Humbucker Music's email list for it) and wasn't super expensive. It sounds wonderful in my modest rig.
@arn999
@arn999 2 жыл бұрын
I have the V3 too and it's great. Rhett didn't get how the eq actually works on the V3. He mentions the neutral position is at 12 o'clock. It's not, obviously. Full on to the right is neutral, then you cut. The inverse from the V2. No wonder he's confused by the tone.
@trintdaddylandis
@trintdaddylandis 2 жыл бұрын
@@arn999 hahaha
@CC-fi3pp
@CC-fi3pp 2 жыл бұрын
The V3 is better then people like to admit. It is imho the bes.
@maxwolfe7194
@maxwolfe7194 2 жыл бұрын
I use a Behringer Vamp Pro which seems to have all the effects in one unit. But no body seems to rate them for some unknown reason.
@newgunguy4176
@newgunguy4176 2 жыл бұрын
Dylan Pickups P-90 is beautiful!!!!!!
@BrianLeverett
@BrianLeverett 2 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a Casino. Ordered in it February and got it six months later. I’ve been playing ever since. Actually, I’ve been playing it tonight. Enjoy yours!
@dylanmackay1657
@dylanmackay1657 2 жыл бұрын
Ive got a V3 and it completely changed how I play guitar. If you get a chance to play/buy one, definitely do it! Listening in from Calgary AB!
@JeffStrickland
@JeffStrickland Жыл бұрын
Good to hear! I'm picking up a used one tomorrow for a great price. Like others have mentioned, I found it almost a little comical how quickly Rhett dismissed the V3, was not well informed on the features, nor even interested enough to turn the knobs to experiment with the tones. Clearly he loves the one he bought.😆Looking forward to getting my V3.
@charlesbecker101
@charlesbecker101 2 жыл бұрын
They all sound good but, the Revv Generator series has them all beat for natural tube sound and tight response.
@crownjewelmusicgearreview9430
@crownjewelmusicgearreview9430 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 1st version of the breadboard Timmy, and can verify it's my favorite pedal in existence. The one pedal I have had for about 10 years and that I won't ever get rid of🌠
@evanredel
@evanredel 2 жыл бұрын
Same here man! Couldn’t agree more.
@slick51
@slick51 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto. The earliest font is different from the one shown here, too. Mine ain't going anywhere.
@braydenjones603
@braydenjones603 2 жыл бұрын
I have an PCA Timmy in dark blue sparkle. I think it was an exclusive color for a local specialist store. It's a great pedal, especially for the price. Not on my board right now, but it's a keeper.
@willcraig6421
@willcraig6421 2 жыл бұрын
A couple of things; First off,the Casinos’ stock pickups are highly microphonic,which you’ll soon discover.Replacing is fine,but they can be potted to help w/the unwanted feedback,while keeping the hollow-body liveliness. In my experience,the Casino loves a Klon circuit.They just do. A Gain Changer replaced my Timmy.Ask your pal Josh about the Gain Changer.
@strangequark420
@strangequark420 2 жыл бұрын
The other reason to use an overdrive, besides getting breakup without being too loud, is if you have modulation in your chain. Unless you've got an effects loop, you're going to go modulation->drive with your amp as the drive. You might prefer to modulate the driven sound instead of distorting the modulated sound. So a drive pedal into modulation into a clean amp is great. Forget the amp doing the drive, if you only play at home.
@IamMusicNerd
@IamMusicNerd Жыл бұрын
The Timmy has always been one of my favorites, but the Protein replaced it at the top of my list last year, and the Hot Cake is not far behind, followed by the KoT and the Tumnus Deluxe.
@flick8583
@flick8583 Жыл бұрын
Where do you use it in your chain?
@stoneysdead689
@stoneysdead689 Жыл бұрын
The Caline Pure Sky is a 40$ clone of this pedal but, I prefer it to the MXR Timmy. I've never had a chance to A-B it against a real Timmy but, lots of ppl who have say they prefer the Pure Sky as well. I'm sure it was pure accident, but Caline hit the jackpot on this drive- the perfect combination of transistors, diodes, pots, etc.- and it just came out sounding amazing. There's a natural compression once you get the gain past a certain stage that really makes it sound smooth. It sounds like it's already been through the studio treatment- no idea what those guys do but you know how they make everything you play just sound better- this pedal does that same thing for you while you're playing live.
@triplelindys
@triplelindys 2 жыл бұрын
Nice little Honeysuckle Blue riff when you fired up the Tim.
@jimamsden
@jimamsden 2 жыл бұрын
The Timmy has a 3-way toggle switch which gives the same two settings as the Tim plus a third asymmetrical clipping setting based on switching on or off one or two extra diodes in the feedback loop. * Up: Asymmetric clipping, one diode on * Center: The middle position is the least compressed symmetrical setting, both diodes are off. * Down: is a more compressed symmetrical setting, both diodes are on.
@skyemoz6559
@skyemoz6559 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Timmy I bought around 10 years ago. It’s great running into a amp already clipping a bit. Really more a true OD pedal. Think I paid $129 from Humbucker Music Maybe one day I can get a Klon price for it 😉
@charlesbolton8471
@charlesbolton8471 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a Timmy at Carter Vintage in 2017 and $129 is what I paid for mine.
@leegollin4417
@leegollin4417 2 жыл бұрын
The Tim is totally my favorite pedal ever. It's great up front, but it's also a great last dirt pedal in the chain too. It classes up all the other pedals run into it.
@lazvt8469
@lazvt8469 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too....the Tube Screamer seems screamier to me...clearer....nicer highs.
@leegollin4417
@leegollin4417 2 жыл бұрын
@@lazvt8469 I tend to like the TS with Strats and the Tim with everything.
@CDMBill
@CDMBill 2 жыл бұрын
My Tim pedal has the external clipping switch. In the instruction sheet that came with it the functions of the tone controls are explained as well as the two stage boost function that is part of the additional effects loop, DRIVE and TONE knobs on back panel. I use a Wampler eQuator (parametric EQ/boost) as a tone shaper + additional boost/cut as a kind of poor man's amp simulator. The Tim's with the asymmetrical clipping switch are considered V2 although there is no formal label as such.
@benspinks342
@benspinks342 2 жыл бұрын
The Eq controls on the V3 are exactly the same in what they do, just reversed.
@johnhardiman8199
@johnhardiman8199 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this video is really going to confuse people.
@timmyroark47031
@timmyroark47031 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Rhett knows about v3
@timmyroark47031
@timmyroark47031 2 жыл бұрын
And he said he really can’t tell about the clipping switch. But then while he talks down the v3 says it don’t have the cool clipping switch on exterior. Which he don’t really care for earlier in the video. The v3 is awesome with a kick when you flip that switch
@CC-fi3pp
@CC-fi3pp 2 жыл бұрын
He's dumb - the V3 is better - it needed the extra gain and everyone left the clip switch in the V2 centre anyway.
@LOFIGSD
@LOFIGSD 2 жыл бұрын
Got the Caline Blue Sky, which many say is a clone, dunno, what I do know, is that it is great on every amp I have stuck it in front, I rarely use pedals, and this being one of the few.
@flux1968
@flux1968 2 жыл бұрын
It's basically a Timmy clone without the clipping switch. I love mine.
@BrianLeverett
@BrianLeverett 2 жыл бұрын
Me too! Love it!
@clintwhite3021
@clintwhite3021 2 жыл бұрын
Another massive fan of the Pure Sky!! Best $40 I've spent on a pedal. Very "transparent". I've got an OCD, BD-2, Wampler Belle, jhs meat an 3 modded soul food next to it and I can get almost identical tones of each of those on it just by dialing in the bass and treble properly. I had a Catalinbread Formula 55 that wasn't worth keeping because with the bass and treble at 3 o'clock on the PS it's sounds nicer. Definitely would be unbelievable if it had a smooth to hard clipping switch.
@LOFIGSD
@LOFIGSD 2 жыл бұрын
@@clintwhite3021 for those watching this video, I would definitely say, try the blue sky, if you don't have the bucks, for the original, if you do, have the money and you like the sound, then sell the blue sky after trying it and buy the original to support the innovators.
@clintwhite3021
@clintwhite3021 2 жыл бұрын
@@LOFIGSD yea for sure maybe one day I'll grab the original also.
@MarcG28
@MarcG28 2 жыл бұрын
I just installed Fralin P90s in my Les Paul.... definitely made a big improvement
@nigelwilliams3311
@nigelwilliams3311 2 жыл бұрын
I know the feeling with the Casino - after 9 hours of watching John Lennon play his in the Beatles documentary, and him saying it was his favourite guitar, the G A S became irresistible! And I am just as impressed with them as you are.
@ryanhdmc
@ryanhdmc 2 жыл бұрын
lol seriously, it reinvigorated my need for a 330. I played one years ago, but after get back i couldn’t resist the temptation anymore
@jambajoby32
@jambajoby32 2 жыл бұрын
Timmys reply are the best! I gave mine away but he’s a world touring musician & I’m just a small town cat so it worked out
@evenstephen2000
@evenstephen2000 25 күн бұрын
I feel like the V3 criticisms are inaccurate. I think it sounds FANTASTIC…
@scottmoreau5630
@scottmoreau5630 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the TIM probably about 8 years ago now and it’s been my favourite OD ever since. There’s just something magical about it.
@fredmanteghian5913
@fredmanteghian5913 2 жыл бұрын
I love my 66 ES-330! Lollar P90s would be a nice upgrade to consider on the Casino.
@craiglizt8074
@craiglizt8074 10 ай бұрын
The Tim/Timmy is my favorite drive pedal, bar non, especially into the front of a Marshall-style amp. I own the Tim v3, which I cannot see ever being topped, and the MXR Timmy. The MXR definitely holds its own and is a superb value. Neither of these pedals disappoint.
@robertraflik3433
@robertraflik3433 2 жыл бұрын
I 1000% agree, a Timmy is like an enhancing overdrive….takes the amp and gives you more of it!
@davidkieltyka9
@davidkieltyka9 2 жыл бұрын
My old DOD 250 always ends up back in my pedal chain after I mess around with other stuff. For a harder-edged sound I use an old Rat or a Power Boost variant. For a clean-ish boost placed after those pedals I use a Klon KTR. Fuzz is where I like to have lotsa options…no such thing as too many!
@MintStiles
@MintStiles 5 ай бұрын
The best overdrive is your tube amp, which works great if you push it with the proper boost that matches that particular amp for your sound. All overdrives really impart their own sound (no such thing as transparent - in fact it's stupid to want a particular pedal just to have it do nothing to the sound). They are all good in their own way, but the warmth and complexity isn't there.
@jaker.4863
@jaker.4863 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with this vid. When I was in high school, a 30something gigging friend had a Tim and the tone was magic to me. I bought one and literally a few months after they were discontinued, and I've had mine for about 12 years now at least. It's always on whether for boost or lead tone and I will never take it off my board. I get quasi D style tone and throw a fuzz in front to get a nice distorted sound. It does everything!
@antoonhermans8953
@antoonhermans8953 2 жыл бұрын
yep , for me the thinline full hollow ES 330 or casino design is the perfect guitar design , and a good set off P 90 pu's in this type off guitar is always a good thing , and offcourse a bigsby has to be added : )
@dr_tomK
@dr_tomK 2 жыл бұрын
I put a Bigsby on my Casino. So much better with it than without.
@iamkennymartin
@iamkennymartin 2 жыл бұрын
Lovepedal Amp11 is similar to the Timmy and usually not that pricey. Really under-rated as well.
@MrHelstr
@MrHelstr 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! I asked Josh at JHS about the Amp 11 circuit and he said it's a Timmy.(or pretty close sonically) But the added COT50 boost circuit makes it sing beautifully. Doesn't add a ton of volume but lots of great harmonics. Lovepedal Amp11 doesn't get mentioned enough. I've had it on my board for 9 years and it works like a champ. Thanks for giving it a shout!
@paulmatulevich3623
@paulmatulevich3623 2 жыл бұрын
Quick retraction. Checked real quick, it was actually Lollar Dogear P90's
@jerrymartinez2160
@jerrymartinez2160 2 жыл бұрын
You definitely have to check out the duelist by kingtone. You’re welcome.
@matroid4996
@matroid4996 2 жыл бұрын
Could not agree more. I had no idea just how amazing that pedal was until I saw Ariel posen using it on a pedalboard showcase video.
@JosePineda-jn8jk
@JosePineda-jn8jk 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I can’t get enough of the Wampler Belle for my more transparent OD sounds. Is an ODR1 copy with a couple extra features.
@jsk8et
@jsk8et 2 жыл бұрын
Tim seems to be your style. I have the MXR one I use it with a Wampler Belle (ODR-1 clone with some nice updates) and a Boss GE-7. Those 3 get most tones I’d go for outside of Metal.
@ericwarrington6650
@ericwarrington6650 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 2020 inspired by Gibson es-339 I paid 590+150 for nice epi hard case...killer guitar 750 or so in
@evanredel
@evanredel 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you’re loving the Tim! I fully tested it and honestly had no idea about the switches prior to sending it your way. As I hoped and expected… you make that circuitry sing! Great stuff man.
@arn999
@arn999 2 жыл бұрын
The eq controls on the v3 are just inverted vs the v2. All the way clockwise is full, then you cut by turning counterclockwise. They’re not at their neutral position at 12 o’clock. You don’t seem to have gotten that correctly? I don’t see what’s the issue really on the eq front? Besides that they’re the exact same eq controls and you get the exact same tones. Of course they’re not going to sound the same at the exact same positions.
@thisdyingsoul76
@thisdyingsoul76 2 ай бұрын
I had one in seafoam green a while back and sold it due to financial issues. I will buy another someday. I habe a clone to hold me over until I can find one at a price I can manage.
@DGoetz26
@DGoetz26 2 жыл бұрын
What is the Casino sound? Feedback. And nothing in higher registers.
@MoveUpMedia
@MoveUpMedia 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, thanks for the reminder about how great this pedal is! Hard to say if there’s a better transparent od out there. Your video made me realize I have mine sitting in a drawer in the studio. Someone else needs to put it to good use! Off to Reverb you go, trusty Tim pedal. Hope you make somebody happy!
@mikeoxley4458
@mikeoxley4458 8 ай бұрын
MXR version is $149 list, and sounds great!
@haloskater24
@haloskater24 2 жыл бұрын
The Fairfield Circuitry Barbershop is Top 10 if not top 5 Transparent OD’s
@buzzfretwear2906
@buzzfretwear2906 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a Timmy on my board since about 2007, and it’s unlikely it will ever leave.
@rockstardr
@rockstardr 2 жыл бұрын
I got a Tim pedal a couple of years ago for a steal. Along with my g&l asat and Comanche it made 75% of my tones.....I will always use it
@shoegazeforever8810
@shoegazeforever8810 2 жыл бұрын
It all depends on your setup. For a Strat into a Marshall an OCD or a Klon will work better than a Tubescreamer.
@soundknight
@soundknight 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer boost as a sound but they tend to really much with your output levels...
@bmcash3411
@bmcash3411 2 жыл бұрын
After thousands of dollars spent and countless overdrives, I can say that most overdrives sound the same. There’s not a whole lot of difference between the various transparent overdrives and the various mid-hump based overdrives. The audience does not give a flying fartsicle if you’re using a klon centaur or a boss metal zone; however, us musicians know :).
@brettpower6508
@brettpower6508 2 жыл бұрын
Exackly it's all become a total wankoff! 😂
@leftchicago
@leftchicago 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Get a few you like and your good to go for years.
@tjFalcon91
@tjFalcon91 2 жыл бұрын
Ya well the audience that can’t tell tone differences is the same audience that wants to hear the same 40 covers till they die. There are so many awesome and different overdrives that It can be overwhelming for sure but the hunt is part of the fun. And the little bit of money spend over a long period of time is pretty cheap entertainment.
@mikejamieson419
@mikejamieson419 2 жыл бұрын
Must be 🧏‍♂️
@themchangesband
@themchangesband Жыл бұрын
I have a Tim I bought from Paul. It looks like yours. I use it to boost a plexi...gain low and volume up.
@Dizzydre21
@Dizzydre21 Жыл бұрын
I also see OD pedals the same way as your friend. I use an always-on boost right at breakup on smaller amps. Then I use another dirt pedal set mostly clean for that extra push during solos or more prominent lead work.
@liontone
@liontone 2 жыл бұрын
Nobels ODR-1, Kingsley Minstrel, Dover Drive. All great for me.
@scottdavidson9584
@scottdavidson9584 2 жыл бұрын
I totally ripped off your Timmy settings and dialed into my helix and it really woke up the guitar. Gonna have to jump on those presets now I guess. Thx for the lesson.
@vkelly1975
@vkelly1975 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Tim version 2,I have it about 5 years got it second hand fantastic overdrive.
@chopper4484
@chopper4484 2 жыл бұрын
Missed this and will watch later, wanted to suggest a topic for future discussion in his Fender Play lesson, Tom Morello says on a scale of 0-100% tone matters 0%, furthermore he’s played his Marshall half stack on the same settings for all his recordings and his live shows. I understand he’s also had the same pedals on his pedal board. Is he right? and is playing around with your amp setting not necessary?
@mrcoatsworth429
@mrcoatsworth429 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, he is neither right nor wrong. Whatever works for him.
@rabidgoon
@rabidgoon 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think tone matters that much for the kind of music he does.
@flux1968
@flux1968 2 жыл бұрын
Put that in context, he meant it shouldn't stop people from playing music, not that it doesn't matter AT ALL. He was talking about obsession with getting the right gear being a stumbling block for people who want to start playing.
@Newnodrogbob
@Newnodrogbob 2 жыл бұрын
@@flux1968 that sounds more plausible
@roscius6204
@roscius6204 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rhett my Tim just went up another 10%... Stacks well with a BluesBreaker, 2 big peddles but 5 usable combinations
@gwcjr2102
@gwcjr2102 2 жыл бұрын
Love the drivin’ and crying riff! Nice pedal as well!!!
@TheWelhaven
@TheWelhaven 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a KoT, but sold it because it was too expensive. Then I bought a second one, sold that one too. Now I have a third KoT, but this time I don’t care. It’s a keeper. Run my Beano Boost into it.
@oldmate86
@oldmate86 Жыл бұрын
I have the same Tim pedal. Didn’t realise it was worth so much
@skye7690
@skye7690 Жыл бұрын
That's why the John chose the Casino, so he could practice even without the amp anywhere.
@jr0706
@jr0706 2 жыл бұрын
I had one I got on trade years ago. It was great, and I regret selling it.
@Earlvis
@Earlvis 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve played tons of OD pedals and the clear winner for me it the Marshall Guvnor Made in England Black Box.
@BarryOdom63
@BarryOdom63 2 жыл бұрын
Picked up a USA Casino last week at the Gibson Garage. Sounds great with my 64 Epiphone Pathfinder amp!
@gregmock6808
@gregmock6808 2 жыл бұрын
I use a BD 2 boss blues driver after a DS 1 distortion pedal for and a GE7 eq pedal in front of those two...between my Casino and those pedals I'm a happy guy....you're going to love the Casino Rhett!!!!!!!!1
@grahamnunn8998
@grahamnunn8998 2 жыл бұрын
I had Charlie Chandler fit a Bigsby to my 90s one and really preffered the difference in tone. I swapped to lower output pickups and played with magnets (the 90s ones were 11k!) but going for some Lollars further down the line.
@bungalowbill3409
@bungalowbill3409 2 жыл бұрын
You can probably touch up that blemish on your strat with some nail polish, not like there aren't enough colors to pull a match from
@duncanboyle244
@duncanboyle244 2 жыл бұрын
Inclined to agree with you, I have owned a Timmy for a while now and not so long ago bought a Highly regarded Klon clone (because you always read it’s the holy grail of overdrives) and I barely used it because I always gravitated back to the Timmy.
@daviddoane6534
@daviddoane6534 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Drivin and Cryin Honey Suckle Blue lick!!
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