The Grim Story Of Kenia Monge

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@BeyondEvill
@BeyondEvill 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! We just reached 500K subscribers on KZbin! That's crazy! Thank you so much to each and everyone ❤️
@DignityDC
@DignityDC 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@amenwalton
@amenwalton 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! You deserve it!
@seanmadison6360
@seanmadison6360 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, good job stealing a murder case that's already been done a few times. Very original.
@lishag658
@lishag658 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats!! Thank you for what you provide for us listeners!!
@Dinmaogueme
@Dinmaogueme 2 жыл бұрын
Yeahhh. Cheers to 1million soon🥰
@libertyjewellery8432
@libertyjewellery8432 2 жыл бұрын
The bouncers who saw a young woman that drunk, without her phone or bag, and threw her out onto the streets...were partly responsible for this crime.
@numberone5680
@numberone5680 2 жыл бұрын
We have to look out for each other and learn to be thoughtful and responsive in all situations. Our impersonal lives have fomented paranoia, disinterest and unreasonable violence. Lack of humanity is leading to a harsh, robotic society.
@mrq2044
@mrq2044 2 жыл бұрын
She was underage so she shouldn't have been there in the first place
@Flamsterette
@Flamsterette 2 жыл бұрын
She should have stayed with her friends.
@vickiekasafirek9096
@vickiekasafirek9096 2 жыл бұрын
My brother was a bouncer. And he always made sure that if he had to remove someone they had all of their belongings. Plus a safe ride home especially women even if he had to pay for a cab himself. I have the BEST brother ever💖.
@JM_Smith1
@JM_Smith1 2 жыл бұрын
Ik..wtf..dumbasses
@tiffanyjackson3979
@tiffanyjackson3979 2 жыл бұрын
That father worked harder than the police. I hope their family is doing okay. My condolences to her family and friends.
@andrewchapman5659
@andrewchapman5659 2 жыл бұрын
Why could they not get involved right away might have had her hostage, Police needed to realize that the text he sent about the van was his way of supporting his made up story... Makes no sense, they could at least, look at the phone and the numbers etc. Even if they dont have to actively go out and look, why not go see whats up with Travis.
@alteredcatscyprus
@alteredcatscyprus 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewchapman5659 Odd that he texted her when he knew she was dead. He was basically telling the police and family who he was. Why did he do that?
@Germania72
@Germania72 2 жыл бұрын
@@alteredcatscyprus Psychopathic tendencies? I mean, he wanted to play with the police a bit and the family? I've watched quite a few documentaries in which the perpetrator put himself in the case. It's like rubbing it their faces.
@alteredcatscyprus
@alteredcatscyprus 2 жыл бұрын
@@Germania72 Yes, that could be.
@AutumnBRreeze
@AutumnBRreeze 2 жыл бұрын
The police LET HIM GO...does not seem like they did any investigating to solve Kenias case. Lydia Tillman is the ONLY reason this monster was finally removed from society.
@emileelamica7701
@emileelamica7701 2 жыл бұрын
First, Tony is the best. He's the type of dad every daughter should have. I cannot express how much respect I have for him. Second, can we acknowledge what a badass Lydia is? She fought like hell, survived a burning building, then jumped out of a BUILDING, made it out of a coma, AND helped solve a murder. Incredible.
@simonsteven1427
@simonsteven1427 Жыл бұрын
Lydia is a true hero
@donandreas0209
@donandreas0209 Жыл бұрын
I dont know this, she had a dangerous behavier by going around by night drunk and intoxicated. I dont know if her education was so perfect
@doemiller
@doemiller Жыл бұрын
​​@@donandreas0209Lydia is the second lady he attacked in Ft. Collins, not Kenya.
@mmm-ie5ws
@mmm-ie5ws Жыл бұрын
Seriously! I replayed the part about Lydia. Like wow! awesome person!
@JSchaffer214
@JSchaffer214 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, in this day and age Hollywood is always looking for a female super hero and here we have a real life heroine in Lydia! Her story deserves to be told to the masses.
@mclovinlife4018
@mclovinlife4018 2 жыл бұрын
Tony is a real one. I hope more daughters have a father like Tony.
@adrianaevseev7655
@adrianaevseev7655 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, he is a good person ❤
@kiddtwist5036
@kiddtwist5036 2 жыл бұрын
I would move the heavens and earth to find my daughter respect for her father
@BeneGesseritSaya
@BeneGesseritSaya 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda did! Was raised by my step dad from age 2. Typical boomer mentality but a good guy 😂
@richardbaker_0086
@richardbaker_0086 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeneGesseritSaya The world would be better off if everyone had “boomer mentality”.
@gritsNgravy-fn5ic
@gritsNgravy-fn5ic Жыл бұрын
@@richardbaker_0086 ABSOLUTELY !!
@alexisconlon5613
@alexisconlon5613 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many upsetting aspects about this case. The bouncers, the “friends”, the officers denying a missing person report, and letting that cruel man walk the streets freely.
@proudmen1220
@proudmen1220 2 жыл бұрын
Also her bad choices.
@js2702
@js2702 2 жыл бұрын
The “parents”.
@gingersmith2888
@gingersmith2888 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like police would have done a background check on Travis early on also and they would have found out about his previous arrests and being on probation. That makes no sense whatsoever.
@stephaniechampion7260
@stephaniechampion7260 2 жыл бұрын
@@proudmen1220 yes young people sometimes make poor choices. Older people running the bars and clubs can help forsee the dangers the young people they want populating their bars may face. A drunk stumbling woman shouldn’t be kicked into the street with nothing, that’s common sense if you want repeat customers.
@pslinky
@pslinky 2 жыл бұрын
@@proudmen1220 let's not victim blame here. Her "bad choices" shouldn't equal a death sentence ffs. She used a fake id, got drunk and went to the bathroom. Her "friends" suck for not checking on her, the bouncers suck for throwing her out without alerting her friends or giving her her personal items left inside, the cops suck for making the family wait 72 hours to report her missing, but mostly Travis sucks for his crimes. You know who doesn't suck in this case? Kenia. Stop blaming the victim it's ridiculous.
@juliainzerillo
@juliainzerillo 2 жыл бұрын
the fact that kenia's family gave lydia one of her rings and she wears it in her honor is so freaking heartbreaking but wholesome
@TooHooWrong
@TooHooWrong 2 жыл бұрын
Kenia’s family are probably one of the people that are the most happy that Lydia survived
@breezeways
@breezeways 11 ай бұрын
I agree, that was astonishing!! She is so proud to wear that ring!! Brings her so much courage I am sure ❤️
@davisevier1162
@davisevier1162 6 ай бұрын
I've never burst into tears so fast..
@michelerenem
@michelerenem 3 ай бұрын
This made me cry when I heard it..
@PULAG
@PULAG 2 ай бұрын
They share a bond from this terrible situation. It's a very rare unique feeling.
@Lady1974M
@Lady1974M 2 жыл бұрын
Lydia Tillman is the bravest, strongest woman. I wish her all the best in her recovery. One disturbing thing about Travis Forbes that was missed in this video is that when he was interviewed about the disappearance of Kenia Monge and he was crying his crocodile tears about not seeing her home safely, he actually stopped and said to the reporter, "sorry but what was her name again?" Red flag? The police thought so - once they'd bothered to get up and actually investigate the case, that is.
@dianeandrzejak2221
@dianeandrzejak2221 2 жыл бұрын
YES, she is!!
@newpocahontas1
@newpocahontas1 2 жыл бұрын
They literally played that interview in this video, so yes, it was mentioned...
@arkhamkillzone
@arkhamkillzone 2 жыл бұрын
They won't investigate the case. They won't even get up off the couch. They just want to find ways to give us tickets and revenue raise. Not all of them but many of them.
@MelissaNicoleYT
@MelissaNicoleYT 2 жыл бұрын
@@newpocahontas1 they played a portion but not the part where he says he forgot her name. I saw it on another channel that covered it. Regardless, that whole interview screams guilty to me. It was the most odd interview with the most strange behavior. His stuttering and movements.... gave me the creeps
@Lady1974M
@Lady1974M 2 жыл бұрын
@@newpocahontas1 Well they literally didn't play the entire interview which literally mentions part I literally referenced above so you might literally want to go back and literally review that for yourself - literally!
@Sotryn_Fox
@Sotryn_Fox Жыл бұрын
That officer that refused to fill out that missing persons report should've gotten a complaint filed against him. There is no state where you have to wait 72 hours or even 48 hours to file a missing persons report. He just didn't want to do his job. Disgusting.
@dripfromthecrypt5607
@dripfromthecrypt5607 2 жыл бұрын
Travis’ story was bonkers! “A homeless man named dan”. “She met an asian man and they were speaking spanish”
@teresawester5770
@teresawester5770 2 жыл бұрын
Right? Ridiculous!
@namelesswolf2625
@namelesswolf2625 2 жыл бұрын
and then blaming the scratches on a homeless man like....you couldn't have chosen something more realistic like a cat or dog or even a fishhook, car door, anything?
@tonyprice2256
@tonyprice2256 2 жыл бұрын
I know right?
@dripfromthecrypt5607
@dripfromthecrypt5607 2 жыл бұрын
@@namelesswolf2625 Seriously!
@eggchin9721
@eggchin9721 2 жыл бұрын
What's so crazy about that.
@BSJ-Unparalleled
@BSJ-Unparalleled 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that people are forced to wait 72 hours before reporting someone missing is ridiculous. It’s like the law was created specifically for criminals to give them time to get rid of evidence.
@pickledragonrebel
@pickledragonrebel 2 жыл бұрын
There is no law, in any state that I'm aware of that exists. It's more of a policy of certain police depts. Each case should be based on Individual circumstances, not some blanket policy for every situation.
@dmrukifellth
@dmrukifellth 2 жыл бұрын
@@pickledragonrebel I believe I remember hearing on this, or a similar channel, that in an absolutely necessary situation, FBI can overrule such department policies. So, the 72 hour thing should never be simply accepted. If someone is missing, they're missing. Period.
@kitfisto1827
@kitfisto1827 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know how often concerned parents call the police about their poorly raised, poorly behaved underaged kids who didn't come home the night before? If cops had to investigate every one, just for 99.9% of them to be passed out drunk on someone's sofa, or in their bed, they would get nothing else done.
@christophermarston4491
@christophermarston4491 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly there already dead within 24 hours it boggles the mind
@Janadu
@Janadu 2 жыл бұрын
After 48 hours, trails go cold. These cops are pathetic.
@jamesruffolo4680
@jamesruffolo4680 2 жыл бұрын
If Travis hadn't texted Kenia's phone to see if she made it home safely (as a disguise that he's innocent), I don't know that Travis would have come up at all in the investigation.
@BettyHorrid
@BettyHorrid 2 жыл бұрын
He's stupid right lol
@DizziDiz92
@DizziDiz92 2 жыл бұрын
That's the scary part to
@niaag537
@niaag537 2 жыл бұрын
He gave himself away by texting her phone saying “ remember me with the creepy white van?” Like what?
@thiswayup2263
@thiswayup2263 2 жыл бұрын
Why he did message her tho so weird
@dishdog215
@dishdog215 2 жыл бұрын
And his DNA would not have been in the system to match with the Tillman DNA
@nicknacks9309
@nicknacks9309 Жыл бұрын
Lydia is a real champ. When I heard she opened the window and jumped out I thought she was a goner. And seriously, picturing something like that is horror movie/ nightmare inducing stuff. But she lived. Amazing. Absolutely amazing.
@tephrafalls6321
@tephrafalls6321 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. For Travis to request "not being put on a sex offender list", after what she endured, is awful though. But at least they managed, because of Lydia's fight for survival, to get to the truth of what happened. She's so strong.
@JW-wn2oo
@JW-wn2oo Жыл бұрын
And the rest of his life should be a horror movie/nightmare 👹 ..!
@MsMichigan
@MsMichigan 2 жыл бұрын
I understand you don't want to serve a really drunk person any longer, but to kick a girl out, especially with no way to contact someone to come get her, is RIDICULOUS. I get that the clubs/bars are not babysitters, but come on. Hire a bouncer to navigate those that got kicked out. Charge 5 bucks more to patrons to pay for this bouncer. It's not rocket science. People failed her MANY times 🥺
@2lefThumbs
@2lefThumbs 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@perfectlyyoubeauty
@perfectlyyoubeauty 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! How was she supposed to even get home or make a call? They are culpable in her disappearance imo
@mark7831
@mark7831 2 жыл бұрын
I seen this case years ago absolutely 💯 terrible 😳
@URdead2
@URdead2 2 жыл бұрын
Or how about put your big girl pants 👖on and know your limits 🙄
@Christine-jz5nk
@Christine-jz5nk 2 жыл бұрын
I worked at bartending most of my life. I'd have paid her cab ride home. This was the policy at Canadian bars I worked at.It doesn't happen often but sometimes it does. Bar pays for the cab, they had an account with the local cab company. Pay it forward you'll probably get a return customer. Such a shame.
@busylawbee
@busylawbee 2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing dad Tony is. Such a shame literally everyone involved that night failed her.
@trueCrimeGuruYes
@trueCrimeGuruYes 2 жыл бұрын
They did more than fail her. Security cards threw a drunk 4 foot 11 woman out on the street without het phone or purse or keys or friends because she was stumbling. The security guards killed her too. How were police in the USA still doing that "can't report for 72 hours in 2011? Are they still doing that. Amd if you're not in the USA don't assume that's a thing.
@slaymarie_rdh_2B
@slaymarie_rdh_2B 2 жыл бұрын
@@trueCrimeGuruYes no they don’t do this anymore I’m in Ohio and they do amber alerts for children (0-18yrs) they pop up on hour phones immediately after a police are informed.
@slaymarie_rdh_2B
@slaymarie_rdh_2B 2 жыл бұрын
@@trueCrimeGuruYes just looked it up these are only done in the case of abduction.
@socialmediademigod1496
@socialmediademigod1496 2 жыл бұрын
@@trueCrimeGuruYes bitch shouldn’t have gotten drunk
@slaymarie_rdh_2B
@slaymarie_rdh_2B 2 жыл бұрын
The f
@andreahailey7399
@andreahailey7399 2 жыл бұрын
Tony and Lydia are truly heroes and they have saved many women without them even knowing it. I wish them all the best.
@Astral-up
@Astral-up 2 жыл бұрын
The way ppl just lie and go on living with themselves after murdering someone is so scary
@adambane1719
@adambane1719 2 жыл бұрын
How's the weight thing going?
@NikkiC777
@NikkiC777 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, like when he was talking about how he wanted to bury her under a tree, or near water, because he would want to be buried in a beautiful place if someone murdered him. Like that somehow makes what he did better in any way. He felt like he would be absolved somehow by giving her a f'd up funeral like that. Wtf? He is a total psycho.
@camvin575
@camvin575 2 жыл бұрын
@@NikkiC777 Exactly. He makes me so f-ing angry it's untrue.
@AntnyXO
@AntnyXO 2 жыл бұрын
Literally not people/human But those are Monsters in human form.
@jokesonyou1373
@jokesonyou1373 2 жыл бұрын
@@adambane1719 🤣🤣🤣
@ShelleyBean1808
@ShelleyBean1808 2 жыл бұрын
FYI: You do NOT have to wait 72 hours to file a missing person report! You do not take no for an answer and file one right away! 💯
@rullmourn1142
@rullmourn1142 2 жыл бұрын
Yarp, i commented the same thing.
@GeOsmomGina
@GeOsmomGina 2 жыл бұрын
You don't even have to wait 24 hours.
@nicholasagnew2792
@nicholasagnew2792 2 жыл бұрын
@@rullmourn1142 yarp indeed
@rocketta.chique5761
@rocketta.chique5761 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! And if one department doesn’t take you seriously, take it to another department and/or threaten to take it to the state level. The first 48 hours are the most critical in missing persons cases.
@Darkvirgo88xx
@Darkvirgo88xx 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an Officer in Oklahoma. If someone wants to report someone missing I have to take that report right then and there. Then get it to dispatch so the alert goes out. All that waiting so many hours stuff is crazy.
@jenniferjuneau7329
@jenniferjuneau7329 2 жыл бұрын
Let's go back to the beginning: they should never have kicked her out of the club without bringing her over to her friends, collecting her items, and maybe call an Uber for her. This is a terrible case of an apathetic society.
@capo4ever334
@capo4ever334 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, bouncers from places I go, get their friends if they have to kick them out. I've never seen someone get kicked out without their belongings either
@florl.delgado4093
@florl.delgado4093 2 жыл бұрын
Agree 💯
@johngreen5089
@johngreen5089 2 жыл бұрын
Uber didn't exist in 2011.. and denver didn't really have cabs then either... there's things they could have done. But realistically they were doing their job. And that does not include being a bodyguard. It's frowned on in this situation. But they say drink responsibly too.. and for good reason
@GhostRider-eq3ki
@GhostRider-eq3ki 2 жыл бұрын
I think that is their job to bounce drunks not sure finding them a hotel or a ride home is part of a standard bounce ! Plus it is important to get them out off the property fast ! serving teens with fake ID can get your club shutdown and fines maybe even jail !
@22leggedsasquatch
@22leggedsasquatch 2 жыл бұрын
My very first thought. The security are culpable and they and that club should be sued.
@Nellyb15
@Nellyb15 Жыл бұрын
I hope the security that kicked her out of the club feel absolutely disgusted with themselves, why would you do that to a highly intoxicated women and just leave her knowing what kind of people are out there or even that she could of walked into traffic or fall in a ditch 😢
@wagashi9440
@wagashi9440 Жыл бұрын
The security are just doing their job, they certainly aren't the ones that started this chain of events. It was travis and only travis.
@cikosphysicaltherapist6017
@cikosphysicaltherapist6017 Жыл бұрын
Nah. They need to shoulder some of the responsibility as well. Putting a drunk woman out with no purse, phone etc. She became easy prey.
@aneececolt
@aneececolt Жыл бұрын
the pirates didn't kill those people. the sharks under the gangplank killed them.
@tropistan7735
@tropistan7735 10 ай бұрын
How about we stop telling young women that it should be their right to get as drunk as they want and other people should be responsible for them when we ALL know that not only is this not true, but it is also not reality? In no world would I be given any grace for leaving my car unlocked with the key inside and my car got stolen. It is my right to have my possession not stolen but everyone and their dog understands that high risk behaviour leads to undesirable outcomes. But somehow we are now encouraging young girls to not mitigate risks because your friends, the bars, the bouncers and strangers should take care of you? "Your actions are other people's responsibility because we don't victim blame" has become the dumbest and most dangerous slogan of the past few years. If anything, these stories seem to be happening more often. And alcohol-related deaths are increasing for women, faster than for men. So keep up the good job.
@jk7713
@jk7713 10 ай бұрын
It’s not their problem once they are out of the club. Their duty of care is for those inside the club. She should have been smarter and made better decisions. Sneaking into a club, underage drinking, going back to a random guys apartment, talking to another random man on the street, getting into a van with another man she didn’t know. She could have asked the bouncers to go get her bag and phone, or tell her friends and she didn’t. She didn’t even try to get back in.
@JackieMartin1974
@JackieMartin1974 2 жыл бұрын
Parents need to INSIST on filing a report. There is no rule to wait to file. Makes me so mad when police convinces people to wait. Cops need to trust that the family knows the individual and take their word for it. Lydia's story is so inspiring. Great job on this video. Well done.
@fc7307
@fc7307 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is most adults (she was above 18)turn up sometimes that is why the cops always say that. Its either that the cops are swamped with cases or they are lazy.
@hana_maru22
@hana_maru22 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! You ask to speak to a supervisor and don’t leave until you do, and there is no wait period to file a missing person report!
@camvin575
@camvin575 2 жыл бұрын
Their needs to be more information out there that tells people they don't have to actually wait 24/48 hours to file a report. I'm so gutted for everybody here. Lydia is such a soldier as well.
@karendavis3275
@karendavis3275 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think they make you wait anymore....I think so many people fought to change this waiting period because the first hours are crucial.
@HeyIwasaValedictorian
@HeyIwasaValedictorian 2 жыл бұрын
Idk... I suspect if one were "too insistent" they may be occupying a cell or getting lumped up. Can't MAKE cops act even if it is prudent AND their job. Maybe plead & cajole a bit, & go to the news or radio if cops refuse. How terribly frustrating.
@sachyas
@sachyas 2 жыл бұрын
" my daughter is missing " , " sorry she hasn't been missing for long enough. give it a few more hours and we'll start looking " annoys and makes my blood boil to no end.
@bertdistefano6850
@bertdistefano6850 2 жыл бұрын
He basically gave himself up with that initial text message. Chances were, with the lack of concern to the police, Travis would never had been caught. Police can be as equally useless as they are helpful.
@AKayfabe
@AKayfabe 2 жыл бұрын
he sent it to try and make it seem like he had left her alive and wanted to make sure she’s ok, to appear innocent and if he had never tried that or texted at all they may never have linked him to her murder at all
@aaminahakhtar6168
@aaminahakhtar6168 2 жыл бұрын
His friend was with him when he saw her offered to drive her home so maybe he was scared that his friend would tell the police so he did it before.
@MileyMaxineFam
@MileyMaxineFam 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaminahakhtar6168 yup that’s the only real why he texted her phone. At first I was wondering why. But then I realized is cause a friend was with him
@mikemcmike6427
@mikemcmike6427 2 жыл бұрын
@@MileyMaxineFam that is true about the friend but I believe he was overthinking it trying to play 4dimensional chess. Maybe thinking “if someone else saw my van and identified me so it’s better to play it off as being helpful and unsuspicious.” Kinda reminds me of the Edgar Allen Poe story with the guy who had the dead person under his floor boards: and when the investigators showed up was acting so hard in his own mind to appeal normal and innocent but his insanity couldn’t let him see from and outside perspective that it was bizarre and suspicious.
@bullettomy7thheart
@bullettomy7thheart 6 ай бұрын
@@mikemcmike6427 the tell tale heart
@seanellis4878
@seanellis4878 Жыл бұрын
I watch hours of true crime a week and I thought I was pretty desensitized...but this one broke me pretty bad. Lydia's story had me so emotional. The things she experienced, her strength is unfathomable. Rest in Peace to Kenia and to Lyida, I wish you have the most blessed life possible.
@Jay-n262
@Jay-n262 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard several cases of peoples who were abducted, after being thrown out of club's for being intoxicated. Without their phones, and purses. People prey on intoxicated people. If they're going to throw them out at least tell their friends so they're not outside vulnerable.
@nickasap9498
@nickasap9498 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah atleast they tell they friends b4 the kick them out
@huzcer
@huzcer 2 жыл бұрын
The family should sue the club. She would be still alive if she'd had her phone
@TheThora17
@TheThora17 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! This should be put on the club's bouncers! If it wasn't for them putting her in that position, none of this would have happened...
@MattCollisMusic
@MattCollisMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I played in bars for years and one thing that is consistent - bouncers aren't the sharpest tools in the shed...
@HeidiAndScots
@HeidiAndScots 2 жыл бұрын
How is that the bouncer's responsibility
@swillieplays
@swillieplays 2 жыл бұрын
So glad I found this channel, love the narrator . Some of these channels have narrators that just can't keep me interested and that alone is detrimental
@amymichelle282
@amymichelle282 2 жыл бұрын
Amen…in total agreeance 😊
@wendymagnuson6069
@wendymagnuson6069 2 жыл бұрын
@@amymichelle282 Me too!!!
@Relationship-advice1805
@Relationship-advice1805 2 жыл бұрын
The story might be good/not buh it depends on who's telling it to keep the listeners glued
@markzieg3593
@markzieg3593 2 жыл бұрын
My sympathies go out to Kenia’s family. I am so sorry for your loss. Such a beautiful family.
@azulcrema1O
@azulcrema1O Жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for Tony. He shook hands with his daughters killer. The same hands he used to end her life 😢
@annettedailey6743
@annettedailey6743 2 жыл бұрын
I understand her being escorted but those bouncers should have let her get her things or told her friends the situation
@MsMichigan
@MsMichigan 2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@TheAzureKnight25
@TheAzureKnight25 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they found out she was a minor? Idk, but yeah just throwing out an obviously intoxicated woman is insanity
@registeredjopper
@registeredjopper 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAzureKnight25 finding out she's a minor and doing that is even worse..? if they knew she was a minor, they should at least call the police to pick her up and bring her home.
@nickyblue4866
@nickyblue4866 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAzureKnight25 if they knew she was a minor and using a fake ID they should have called the cops or her parents.
@thetgwarrior
@thetgwarrior 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't get that part
@kit2130
@kit2130 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good reminder that you can’t always tell someone is bad from how they look. Even clean cut, nice looking people have criminal intent.
@jewsaregenocidalhores
@jewsaregenocidalhores 2 жыл бұрын
It’s cause he’s white. I promise you if that was a black man he would have been arrested and never let go from the first arrest.
@JohnM-sw4sc
@JohnM-sw4sc 2 жыл бұрын
He has spiked hair and an earring. Not clean cut at all
@ddl4374
@ddl4374 2 жыл бұрын
Oh many who have been through rough stuff look extra sharp hard at the creepy fakery church boy choir boy nasties! They trigger those switches THE WORST! they might fool suckers..but I BET experienced cops immediately smelled a pos scumbag LOWEST OF GHE LOW.
@morganc.m1830
@morganc.m1830 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnM-sw4sc they didn't say he did.
@JohnM-sw4sc
@JohnM-sw4sc 2 жыл бұрын
@@morganc.m1830 they didn’t say he had an earring g and spiked hair or they didn’t say he was clean cut? Because for the former I used my eyes And for the latter it was certainly inferred
@Naz-Ali
@Naz-Ali 2 жыл бұрын
That last scene where Linda is learning how to live, all over again, is so heartbreaking. It takes years to rehabilitate yourself after some gruesome experience. She didn't deserve this. Just few seconds of pleasure for a psycho man, cost her so much.
@robynsmith4164
@robynsmith4164 11 ай бұрын
Lydia didn’t let him in. Go to 22:42 to see what happened. She didn’t even know him. Travis followed her to her apartment and stood back and waited for her to unlock her door to jump her and shove her inside to SA her. After the SA, he beat her so hard with his fists that he broke her jaw and gave her severe head trauma. He then poured bleach on her and around her apartment then set her on fire to cover up his crimes! I think you may have mixed Lydia up with one of the girls he kept trying to pick up from a bar. Have a great evening! 😄
@ardenereid2157
@ardenereid2157 2 жыл бұрын
Lydia solved kenia murder and she may have saved other women life as well. She is so strong and brave and I just get this sense she's a beautiful person inside out. May God bless her!
@samsngdevice5103
@samsngdevice5103 2 жыл бұрын
27:01 Travis makes a deal to not be reported as a sex offender; anyone living near his prison should go visit other inmates, put money on their canteen if they spread the word.
@aqua-mina
@aqua-mina 2 жыл бұрын
Always amazes me when murderers involve themselves so much into the investigation. Such attention-seeking psychopaths…
@EllaHayaTV
@EllaHayaTV 2 жыл бұрын
Like Jodi Arias
@goldenlass9488
@goldenlass9488 2 жыл бұрын
The police didn’t look into Travis’ background when he was under suspicion for Kenia’s disappearance?! WTF!! 🤯
@1beefybroad
@1beefybroad 2 жыл бұрын
RIGHT?!! They had his name!
@thokongwenya9552
@thokongwenya9552 2 жыл бұрын
White privilege
@arcray12
@arcray12 2 жыл бұрын
He was on damn probation on the police did not know this?
@WorldArtzLLC
@WorldArtzLLC 2 жыл бұрын
White privilege at its finest. He didn't look suspicious.
@lulumoon6942
@lulumoon6942 2 жыл бұрын
@@arcray12 bUt hE wAs bLoNd hAiReD aNd bLuE eYeD! 👀
@mariasozinyu381
@mariasozinyu381 Жыл бұрын
I usually try not to be emotional when watching these but the ending just left me in tears. Praying for their family
@CieraMychele
@CieraMychele 2 жыл бұрын
Literally just screamed "WHY" at my phone after the "bouncers saw her stumbling and kicked her out for being too intoxicated" part. Just... WHAT?? WTF....
@jk7713
@jk7713 10 ай бұрын
Because that’s what bouncers do 😂 she was too drunk and a liability.
@SharpieTheBlack
@SharpieTheBlack 2 жыл бұрын
When I was 18/19/20 I would get so annoyed at my parents from harassing me when I’d go out at night with friends. Life is so dangerous for women regardless of age. RIP Kenia. & bless her amazing father.
@mariancounsellor
@mariancounsellor 2 жыл бұрын
Millions of men and women go to clubs, bars and restaurants every night and get home safely. The issue is being alone late at night whilst drunk. I’ve been on nights out from the age of 15 onwards without incident because me and my friends look out for each other and someone drives or we get an Uber together.
@texasktea
@texasktea 2 жыл бұрын
Drunk or not. No matter where you go. We are constantly in danger.
@JayG1911
@JayG1911 2 жыл бұрын
@@texaskteathis is an unfortunate truth and many people think just because they’ve been safe for years they will continue to be safe. After working in security I see women that try to be careful are still attacked all the time, even in broad daylight. I think women should carry a gun on them now more than ever, and not be afraid to shoot guys like this predator without hesitation. Always stay safe and remember to practice good situational awareness!
@Aribbonofsoundmen
@Aribbonofsoundmen 2 жыл бұрын
@@texasktea more men are vicitms of violent crime, actually
@BeneGesseritSaya
@BeneGesseritSaya 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t allowed to stay out even at 18-20 😂
@leahngesa791
@leahngesa791 2 жыл бұрын
You are right “you’ll never know what’s lacking in the shadows” the stories are really alerting and thanks for always helping the world not to ignore the small red flags
@peachesnmulder
@peachesnmulder 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that the condolences are given before the story is told. I watch a lot of these type of videos and I have never seen any other channel do it. Well done.
@curtissmith5469
@curtissmith5469 2 жыл бұрын
I had first seen this case on a show called "See No Evil" but this one was more detailed than their version.R.I.P. Kenia,the words your younger sister wrote for you broke my heart.Someday I hope I get to meet you too in paradise ✝️
@partakeofthefruit
@partakeofthefruit 2 жыл бұрын
No matter how close you are , always make sure you leave with all the same people you came with unless you KNOW they're safe going somewhere else
@tristan583
@tristan583 Жыл бұрын
That’s pretty unrealistic anybody has a busy life and minding there business most of time , anyone has things going on
@nadinejackson3740
@nadinejackson3740 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard this story before, and I'm always struck by how many amazing people there are in this case. Kenya and her family, with her awesome step-dad, and especially Lydia Tillman. She's an inspiration to us all. I just adore her ❤️
@graemespringer4643
@graemespringer4643 2 жыл бұрын
Beyond Evil You guys are the best documentary series I have seen in a long time. Investigation discovery is good but seems like every single show is the same. This series is very very well done and does NOT seem like one big show or whatever. All of these so far are absolutely perfect 🥰💞 Thank you so much for your time helping to entertain us and warn us!! ❤
@clod148
@clod148 2 жыл бұрын
What a man her father is! He worked harder than the police
@adrianaevseev7655
@adrianaevseev7655 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this Father is great ❤
@Timmeh_The_tyrant
@Timmeh_The_tyrant 2 жыл бұрын
The people that work at the club that put her outside knowing she was drunk by herself with no ID no personal anything should be brought up on charges if they weren’t
@trustworthydan
@trustworthydan 2 жыл бұрын
Why? If you go to a bar and you know you have to figure out a way back home, then don't get trashed... That's no one's responsibility except yours. I don't understand why people keep posting this non sense.
@lindaarrington9397
@lindaarrington9397 2 жыл бұрын
Agree completely
@lindaarrington9397
@lindaarrington9397 2 жыл бұрын
@@trustworthydan you don't get it Right over your head. She had all tht worked out....!!!! Those idiots wouldn't let her get to her ride. Her friends ,, that had her personal items. I feel sad 4 you
@trustworthydan
@trustworthydan 2 жыл бұрын
@@lindaarrington9397 that's not their problem. The vanishing of personal responsibility is the real crime. If you ever think you don't have to be personally responsible for yourself then I feel sorry for you bud.
@proudmen1220
@proudmen1220 2 жыл бұрын
@@lindaarrington9397 it's her fault as well
@robertgrosser7279
@robertgrosser7279 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a cruel and heartbreaking story, much of which could have been prevented if the police were more interested in their jobs. I am so happy that Lydia escaped the monster and lived to tell the story. Lydia is a very brave and incredibly strong young woman and I wish her all the best in her second chance of life ❤
@QuinnMakeUp
@QuinnMakeUp 2 жыл бұрын
The clip of the nurses and doctor hugging Lydia… so beautiful! What an amazing woman
@Naomi-pq6tv
@Naomi-pq6tv 2 жыл бұрын
The bouncers should have made sure Kenia had her personal belongings.
@DodongoManoof
@DodongoManoof 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and kept her somewhat safe or notified her friends 8[
@lindaarrington9397
@lindaarrington9397 2 жыл бұрын
I know they are guilty 2
@jazzyg6298
@jazzyg6298 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I know they aren’t responsible for making sure she’s okay after they kick her out as part of their job, but I feel like it would have been anyone’s moral obligation to at least help her get an Uber or make sure she had her phone with her to call for a ride. I’m sure they deal with stupid drunk people every day, but kicking her to the curb when she was so young and all alone, with none of her belongings is fucked up. It’s also fucked up that the girls she was there with were not concerned whatsoever. They had all of her means of transportation and communication with them. The least they could have done is try calling her family or a different friend to drop her items off with, and actually tell someone that she had disappeared that night. Lastly, I hate that cops don’t take it seriously right when someone goes missing. I understand that It’s hard when the missing person is an adult because they very well could have disappeared intentionally. But given the fact that she was wasted and had no means of communication the night she went missing, and everyone who knew her saying this was unlike her, I think they should have at least made an effort. If they found her and she told them she didn’t want to be found, they could have just told the parents they made contact and that would be that. Unfortunately, in so many cases it’s the 72 hour waiting period that fucks someone over.
@tonyprice2256
@tonyprice2256 2 жыл бұрын
@@jazzyg6298 I agree 100%. It would have only taken a few seconds for those bouncers to let her get her stuff and let her friends know what was going on.
@geejb5166
@geejb5166 2 жыл бұрын
Was strong all throughout but absolutely lost it at Kenia’s ring being worn 😢 and her sister’s words. May she Rest In Peace.
@ellenicoletv4095
@ellenicoletv4095 2 жыл бұрын
Her sister’s words were so sweet and sad
@geejb5166
@geejb5166 2 жыл бұрын
@@ellenicoletv4095 agreed 🕊💔
@kblade08
@kblade08 2 жыл бұрын
I always genuinely appreciate when I get updates on the surviving victims of these tragedies. Thanks for sharing Lydia's inspiring story during this.
@carolmoreno9314
@carolmoreno9314 2 жыл бұрын
Your shows on BeyondEvil are the best crime shows I ever watched.
@JanJan-gy7qp
@JanJan-gy7qp 2 жыл бұрын
She radiates happiness, kindness n is also absolutely beautiful. I’m over in Europe, Scotland, I’ve watched a documentary about this young woman. My heart goes onto her loving family. I don’t like the fact that bouncers don’t allow drunk vulnerable young women back into whether it’s under the help of the security. They need to think if this was their sister, their daughter even what would they want for their loved one? Heartbreaking. Not having answers must be horrific. Lydia is a rock star!
@FallenAngel9979
@FallenAngel9979 2 жыл бұрын
Scotland is part of Britain. Not Europe.
@JanJan-gy7qp
@JanJan-gy7qp 2 жыл бұрын
@@FallenAngel9979 I was referring to the continent. Scotland hasn't moved, mibby no in European Union but its still a country in northern Europe.
@miriamvolker1088
@miriamvolker1088 2 жыл бұрын
This "Travis-guy" in my opinion hits perfectly the traits of a typical serial offender.Who knows,how many woman he had assaulted or worse. The world is a crazy place-big time! Please look after each other and trust your instincts! Stay safe everybody! 🌠
@suzymanville232
@suzymanville232 2 жыл бұрын
I've worked with sex offenders and they mostly fall into two camps: filthy and disgusting or compliant, clean cut, and articulate. The sex offenders I supervised were rarely late for appointments, never failed to appear for court, attended all their ordered classes, groups, and U/A tests. They were clean and well-dressed and generally easy to supervise. It was often hard to reconcile them with their crimes. That is, until they re-offended.
@miriamvolker1088
@miriamvolker1088 2 жыл бұрын
@@suzymanville232 That's very interesting!Thank you for giving us an inside glimpse into your experience. These types of dangerous offenders have to be charming,clean-cut,on time....-you name it. I guess,that's their way to wear these "mask of sanity" and blend into society,without being detected. It's such an uneasy feeling thinking how many of these predators may moving along our streets. No matter if it's in the 🇺🇸 or here in 🇩🇪 or elsewhere. Please stay safe and sending you my best wishes!
@alexthedeal1827
@alexthedeal1827 2 жыл бұрын
Psychopaths are very good at seeing feelings with others and taking advantage. An average guy talks ti a woman she is half interested half nit listening. Psychopath smiles at her, says the rihht things and she's very interested. You saw how easily he got woman after woman after woman to come with him, crazy.
@ddl4374
@ddl4374 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexthedeal1827 omg. because they were stumbling self-conscious incapacitated sitting DUCKS! IT WASNY ANY MAGICAL 'GIFT OF GAB'
@alexthedeal1827
@alexthedeal1827 2 жыл бұрын
@@ddl4374 you're saying they were drunk wobbling over the street for anybody to grab, take home and do with as you please? Why did I never see such lottery ticket candy anywhere? It's never sooo easy, come on.
@AntnyXO
@AntnyXO 2 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine how Kenia’s father felt when he found out that the “man” who murdered his daughter was the “man” whom he was speaking to at the gas station with the cop. 🤬
@ddl4374
@ddl4374 2 жыл бұрын
With the BLEACH
@trueCrimeGuruYes
@trueCrimeGuruYes 2 жыл бұрын
He had strong suspicion he was from the beginning.
@talesoftheblueeyedindian2412
@talesoftheblueeyedindian2412 2 жыл бұрын
Even shook his hand!
@sarahjane8949
@sarahjane8949 2 жыл бұрын
Someone tell me how he got a mobile number
@jaycurry5593
@jaycurry5593 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarahjane8949 you sound sympathetic to Travis 👀
@gritsNgravy-fn5ic
@gritsNgravy-fn5ic Жыл бұрын
I read that Kenia's mother & Step-Father, ended up divorcing. Which is a REAL shame. Kenia's Step-Father fought to get Keni the justice she deserved !! He seemed to fight for Kenia better than some "real" fathers do. Tony is a REALLY decent father, that many of us wish we had had such a father. I KNOW I do !!
@cjrun2422
@cjrun2422 2 жыл бұрын
No one should EVER be kicked out of a club without their belongings, that right there is just down right stupid. Makes me furious man, they kicked that poor girl out without her phone or purse ? How is she supposed to get home
@ddl4374
@ddl4374 2 жыл бұрын
I ALWAYS HAD survival essentials IN A STASH ON MY BODY STRAPOED TO MY LEG AND IN MY BRa!
@jazzsimmons8370
@jazzsimmons8370 2 жыл бұрын
Lydia is a shining beacon of light in the darkness of depraved humanity.
@BluMoonDust
@BluMoonDust 2 жыл бұрын
Thank u for this video, I have seen this case many times and hands-down you have done the best job so far representing her case. Thank you tremendously again 💜💙💜💙
@terryford7459
@terryford7459 2 жыл бұрын
I TOTALLY AGREE, I WAS THINKING THE SAME!! 💯
@nancyrzez
@nancyrzez Жыл бұрын
If Travis had never sent that text asking Kenia “if she had made it home”, he would’ve never gotten charged with Kenia’s murder 😢. It makes me wonder why he sent a text to her phone after he had already buried her..
@jaysonteixeria195
@jaysonteixeria195 7 ай бұрын
Pretty wild, he would have got away with it. He obviously over thought it and I guess thought if he sends that text it makes him look less guilty. Really dumb, happy he's a stupid idiot and got himself caught.
@MelDamgaard
@MelDamgaard 5 ай бұрын
Criminals are not the smartest people!! He made himself a suspect to Tony, and eventually, the police by sending that text!!
@merrisl6685
@merrisl6685 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this story blew me away. So sad to lose Kenia, so bright and beautiful. As soon as I heard something like, Travis looked respectable with blonde hair and blue eyes, I knew he did it. A few weeks ago whilst sitting in a bar in Holland, I overheard a middle-aged woman telling her friends about what a ghastly thing someone she knew did. She added, you would never believe someone with such bright blonde hair and blue eyes would do such a terrible thing. I'm a black, middle-aged woman, and thought WTF!
@aileenj8180
@aileenj8180 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a weird thing to say
@crazydaisyog3984
@crazydaisyog3984 2 жыл бұрын
What a stupid thing to say!! Hair & eye color doesn't exempt someone from being a psycho monster.. 😡
@milannoelle1576
@milannoelle1576 2 жыл бұрын
right bc it's so dumb to ascribe a specific look to evil or exempt people from being thought of as evil based on perceived looks. "blonde hair and blue eyes, he cant have done anything wrong!" like ??? HUH? are these people still stuck in the days of the holocaust or something? does that mean they see someone with dark features as more likely to commit evil acts? such a ass backwards way of thinking.
@dianeandrzejak2221
@dianeandrzejak2221 2 жыл бұрын
@@crazydaisyog3984 Couldn’t agree with you more!! Ted Bundy was a respectable, good looking white guy too! Oh yeah! Aren’t MOST serial killers white men?!?! I STILL think the police need to be retrained & leave ALL the profiling stuff to the FBI!
@cdes1776
@cdes1776 2 жыл бұрын
A husband/wife duo who were brutal killers/rapists about 20 years ago in Ontario were both clean cut and attractive. They were monsters. It's prejudiced and ignorant to imply that only certain 'looks' are evil.
@kal69
@kal69 2 жыл бұрын
What a terrible tragedy. As a father of a 20yo daughter at university,this kind of psycho is every father's bogeyman,but unfortunately,apart from instilling vigilance toward possible threats there's not much more that we can do. As this father illustrated twice,he believed that in no way would she have gotten into a stranger's van and that he was shocked to discover that she was clubbing with the aid of a fake ID. The point that I want to make is that rules and restrictions that you,as a young adult,may have flaunted,it's quite possible that your kids will also,so educate in them all the possible outcomes of their actions and to be vigilant.
@pamelamorris3148
@pamelamorris3148 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely best comment on this thread.
@alteredcatscyprus
@alteredcatscyprus 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Minimize their risk! Minimize your own risk!
@LilyAmongThorns
@LilyAmongThorns 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely 🎯 I see everyone in the comments blaming the police, the new friends, the bouncer, but the fact is that Kenia made many unfortunate choices that night. Not blaming the victim, Travis is a monster. But alerting your young adults to this situation might be a good deterrent for them to not make the mistakes that got Kenia into a situation that made her easy prey for a monster.
@steveperreira5850
@steveperreira5850 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got some ideas because you don’t seem to have been able to figure out anything. How about teaching your children not to become derelict drunks on the weekends. Now I am not a perfect parent, but I have never drank or use any drugs, and because of that I believe that my children have emulated my behavior, without me drilling it into them. Another thing we can do is arm our children with non-lethal weapons, and the more effective the better. Multiple weapons is probably ideal.
@bidoon_makyaj
@bidoon_makyaj 2 жыл бұрын
As Steve mentioned, why does drinking become a norm that people cannot even question it?!!!! Alcohol is wrong, no matter how much people try to intentionally avoid discussing it as a destroyer. Destroyer of individuals, families and societies.
@robertcaffrey6097
@robertcaffrey6097 2 жыл бұрын
The nightclub didnt mind serving her drink until she got drunk and then kicked her out on to the street alone, shameful. They are just as responsible for her not getting home safe.
@nora4981
@nora4981 2 жыл бұрын
Those drinks were definitely not free. And although this is not an excuse for her unfortunate demise, she was just as responsible for her own safety. I’m a small woman like her and most of my life I had to be hyper aware of my surroundings just to be safe.
@robertcaffrey6097
@robertcaffrey6097 2 жыл бұрын
@@nora4981 Yeah I meant they didnt mind selling her drinks until she got drunk. Stay safe.
@stand777
@stand777 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertcaffrey6097 she didn't mind ordering drinks till she got drunk. Stay safe.
@texasktea
@texasktea 2 жыл бұрын
Supposedly she may have been drugged. Someone else said she didn't even drink that much.
@robertcaffrey6097
@robertcaffrey6097 2 жыл бұрын
@@texasktea Yeah it seems very likely that she had her drink spiked or was drugged somehow. Take care.
@ianpatricklee
@ianpatricklee Жыл бұрын
Was in tears when Lydia started talking and trying so hard! No lady should experience and go through that ordeal That is so unfair!! I wish I can talk to Lydia and gave her some comforting and inspiring words personally
@petitmorte2186
@petitmorte2186 2 жыл бұрын
always go to the bathroom TOGETHER. leave together. stay together.
@mariancounsellor
@mariancounsellor 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! That’s always happened when my friends and I go out. We also go to the bar together and don’t accept drinks from strangers.
@angelicaridgeway4318
@angelicaridgeway4318 2 жыл бұрын
Watching her father and her mother was absolutely heart breaking. I felt so sorry for the parents. Her poor father did everything he could do to find out what happen to his beautiful daughter. This was such a sad sad case.
@johnnywalker4857
@johnnywalker4857 2 жыл бұрын
When bouncers feel it necessary to remove an intoxicated person from their club, especially a woman in a vulnerable state, they should at least show some empathy and do what they can to ensure that the person gets home safely.
@roderickcortez138
@roderickcortez138 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously. At least make sure she has her purse and a way home. Ugh.
@iamV10010
@iamV10010 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think every club should have a separate "sober up" location nearby or attached to the building to take anyone in that situation. They could have free water, phone access, and an attendant whose job it is to locate any missing belongings in the club and get them back to their owners. Is doesn't seem hard to do something lie that to me. Especially if your entire business model is to intoxicate people. Sounds like they over served her as well. Bars and clubs should have more safe practices since they literally serve patrons poison. Ya know?
@nadien3320
@nadien3320 2 жыл бұрын
I knew some bouncers personally that would call a taxi. That's literally the LEAST you can do
@picklesmccoy7796
@picklesmccoy7796 2 жыл бұрын
@@iamV10010 🙄🙄🙄
@brendabailey4319
@brendabailey4319 2 жыл бұрын
@@picklesmccoy7796 You got some kind of problem if you are making a face like that about having empathy for others Maybe you will get no empathy since you don't have any for anyone else
@Telekinetic01
@Telekinetic01 Жыл бұрын
Lydia girl you are unbelievable. What a woman! Fierce and powerful, you set such an amazing example with your spirit and tenacity. God bless and thank you!
@mariachristinatkm
@mariachristinatkm 2 жыл бұрын
How could a club throw a young girl out of the establishment WITHOUT her wallet, phone or keys to her place in the middle of the night? Not letting her get her belongings is a crime itself.
@teresawester5770
@teresawester5770 2 жыл бұрын
You are 100% correct!
@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826
@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826 2 жыл бұрын
How could someone drink themselves into oblivion in public and expect everyone else to look after them?
@amandabelrose6171
@amandabelrose6171 2 жыл бұрын
It has been well documented that she didn’t have more than any of her friends. She didn’t have enough to be drunk yet. They believe she had been drugged. Seeing as how she only had at the most 4 drinks. Which made sense to the questionable actions made after she was kicked out of the bar. How a bar can kick someone out without their belongings to insure safety is beyond me. I hope they all have guilty consciences. NEVER send a woman out without her belongings. ALWAYS insure she has contact with someone. Or at least don’t send her alone. Let her grab a friend. 😢
@tonyprice2256
@tonyprice2256 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. It would have only taken a few seconds to make sure she had her stuff and let her friends know what was going on. There was absolutely no reason to evict that girl from the place with such urgency. They were just complete A-Holes. There is no other explanation.
@flower5396
@flower5396 2 жыл бұрын
NEVER fake an ID to go clubbing and drink irresponsibly. She as 19, she had no business getting drunk at a club.
@humblefloat
@humblefloat 2 жыл бұрын
4 drinks as a skinny girl on an empty stomach can for sure black some out someone
@Su-mx7ix
@Su-mx7ix 2 жыл бұрын
Some people are very lightweights, I’ve seen people get mad drunk from less than 4 drinks; I’ve also seen people down 3/4 of a vodka bottle and be well enough that you’d think they’re sober.
@ddl4374
@ddl4374 2 жыл бұрын
One of my friends was roofied at a bar! But we got home! That said thos girl was child-sized! At under 5" as nd a hundred pounds 4 drinks can take you OUT!
@ginger7344
@ginger7344 2 жыл бұрын
I hope to hear they sued tf out of that bar. WTH did the idiot think was going to happen throwing out a ridiculously drunk YOUNG lady with none of her belongings smdh
@Ghetto-toaster22
@Ghetto-toaster22 9 ай бұрын
Tony, I doubt you ever see this but incase you do I have something I want to tell you. You are one fine father figure sir! You don’t have to be the blood father just to be their actual father. Any girl would be lucky to have a fine gentleman like yourself as their father. If only all fathers were like you this world would be a much much better place. Her mom was lucky to have you as well. Im sorry for her mother and fathers (you) loss and I hope yall are coping as good as you can. You did everything possible you could do. You put in more effort than those worthless “police officers” if you wanna even call them that. Just wanted you to know what an awesome father figure you are incase enough ppl dont tell you that. Thats a fact! Cant argue with a fact can we? NOPE! Great man Tony is and I am sure always will be. Don’t make many men like that these days!
@bGzzzzz
@bGzzzzz 2 жыл бұрын
Where I live, we have a system called “Responsible Service of Alcohol” - if you’re serving a person who is clearly intoxicated, it is the responsibility of the bar/Club to ensure that they have a means to GET HOME
@oooni
@oooni 2 жыл бұрын
I think this should be a law every where. I’ve been at a bar in downtown LA & kicked out cause the bartender was telling me I was too drunk after 2 cocktails & refused to service me after I tried to explain I’m not saying I was aggressive & argumentative & called security to kick me out. I could only imagine if I were actually drunk being separated from my friends aka my ride.
@sofascialistadankulamegado1781
@sofascialistadankulamegado1781 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Australia. Theres a lot of dumb laws we have because of a few dumb people, but we also have a lot of laws that protect innocent people from these dumb and selfish people.
@bGzzzzz
@bGzzzzz 2 жыл бұрын
@@oooni - I’ve been to clubs in the US, there’s no responsibility whatsoever, you could be served drinks til you’re blind drunk. That would not be possible where I am, the bartender would’ve stopped serving well before you’re drunk and if you appear to be not handling your drinks well the security team will make sure you have someone to look out for you or they can arrange a taxi.
@pamelamorris3148
@pamelamorris3148 2 жыл бұрын
Really, where is this & exactly when wae this law passed?? Did it also include minors with fake ID's & how to handle this situation??? Like contact the police immediately & have them handle the entire situation with the underage female and her parent's?
@whitneyhesmer6648
@whitneyhesmer6648 2 жыл бұрын
@@pamelamorris3148 How about just letting her go get her stuff or letting her friends know she was outside? Jesus Christ.
@davidlancaster8152
@davidlancaster8152 2 жыл бұрын
I know this case very well. Happened right by me. Thank you for covering her case with dignity and respect. Justice came slow but it came. May the Lord grant her loved ones comfort in their grieving. Appreciate your work.
@nmarkert01
@nmarkert01 2 жыл бұрын
Unreal how well the one victim recovered. Such a strong women to be smiling through all of what she went through. Hero is definitely the right word.
@teresaintexas
@teresaintexas 2 жыл бұрын
This story was very emotional for me. When I was in my early teens, I too was in a club with a fake ID with some friends. Got super drunk & on my way to the bathroom, was approached by a random man who put his arm around me & led me straight out of the club. He then proceeded to take me to a hotel, where he took my clothes off & raped me. I remember him being so soft spoken & being very gentle with me. When it was over, he drove me around for well over an hour, trying to help me find out where I stayed. Finally, I was able to remember the street & he dropped me off. The next day, I found a note in my back pocket that read, “Let’s do lunch…Andrew” with his phone #. I thank God that I got home safe because I know it could’ve ended way differently. Prayers for her family & also, for the other brave woman who survived.🙏🏽
@isiartdotcom1044
@isiartdotcom1044 2 жыл бұрын
I feel that the person who kicked a young intoxicated person out of a bar without her possessions is partially responsible for her vulnerability. Am surprised they can do this in clubs. Shameful
@tonyprice2256
@tonyprice2256 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. It would have only taken a few seconds to let her get her stuff and let her friends know what was going on.
@twinkle3026
@twinkle3026 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonyprice2256 Yes!!! Sadly, this was too much hassle for those incompetent idiots!
@hooajo
@hooajo 2 жыл бұрын
We dont know what happened. Maybe she was offensiv or attacking sb while she was drunk
@edt5976
@edt5976 2 жыл бұрын
Lidia is such a strong and inspirational woman, my heart goes out to the families.
@lindaarrington9397
@lindaarrington9397 2 жыл бұрын
I think the bouncers should be ashamed at the least Prosecuted to the fullest They are at fault without helping her It's awful
@proudmen1220
@proudmen1220 2 жыл бұрын
She made also bad choices
@princesssolace4337
@princesssolace4337 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Their job is club security including to bounce unruly male patrons and provide security for the ladies. Used to work in entertainment industry. Twice in my life the girls dad request to meet me up personaly to thank me for making sure of their drunk daughter safety. One even flew all the way from Sweden . For me it was a right thing to do having teenage daughters and a younger sister myself. RIP 😢
@lindaarrington9397
@lindaarrington9397 2 жыл бұрын
@@princesssolace4337 awww that's an awsome thing to happen 4 you I'm glad there are still men like you around. ..... REAL MEN
@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826
@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826 2 жыл бұрын
If she hadn't drunk so much she wouldn't have been tossed out.
@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826
@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826 2 жыл бұрын
@Linda Arrington Travis did exactly the same thing lol.
@sashagarcia6205
@sashagarcia6205 Жыл бұрын
gives me chills she is so beautiful, her face trigggers a memory for me idk why but feels like i know her i thnk because i know a girl who looks just like her this is so sad God rest her sweet soul
@tacob69
@tacob69 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so against people who sue for stupid reasons but I would sue those bouncers and the bar for a ton of money.You put a woman you say is to drunk to be in your bar and send he out without the means to safely make it home.Shame on those bouncers I hope they feel guilty.
@Audrey_650
@Audrey_650 2 жыл бұрын
I agree! And she was using a fake id too. I had a fake id as a kid and I’ve seen a lot of them, they are usually pretty jacked up in some type of way. My 16 yr old had one I confiscated and it said her hair was hazel and her eyes were black- things like that are always detectable on a fake id
@patriotsdaughter3414
@patriotsdaughter3414 2 жыл бұрын
Yep agreed.
@patriotsdaughter3414
@patriotsdaughter3414 2 жыл бұрын
Yep I agree she may have been “Acting the fool” and making bad decisions (dont we all!) but there has to be an element of humanity in this. The bouncers so could have easily got her friends and chucked them all out together or even they could have rang her a taxi but no they didn’t. They chucked a vulnerable young woman out alone in the middle of the night, acting like the big men they usually think they are. Come on people! We all know there’s predators out there. Where’s the lookin out for one another. Nahh that wouldn’t have happened on my watch. Stay safe friends and look out for each other. Especially the vulnerable. Too many people turn their backs. What a shame.
@tonyprice2256
@tonyprice2256 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrucknGame All three were responsible for what happened - her being drunk, the bouncers kicking her out without her stuff, and Travis himself. Take any one of those things out of the equation, and she might still be alive today.
@rainydayjane8257
@rainydayjane8257 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrucknGame That doesn’t justify a young woman being killed. We all lack judgement in our younger years….but we don’t deserve to die.
@0808_x
@0808_x 2 жыл бұрын
im so proud of lydia, she managed to get herself out of that burning apartment, survive it and live a somehow normal life again ! its so upsetting that the security/bouncedr kicked a drunk girl out without anyone watching over her or getting her purse/someone to contact for safety. this should never happen, even if someone is drunk, atleast they should make sure they get home safe. maybe call them a taxi home and make them pay the ride home the next day (a check or fee). rip kenia..
@pamelamorris3148
@pamelamorris3148 2 жыл бұрын
That's not their job. Quit making excuses for someone who was so irresponsible she couldn't hold hee drink or tongue along with obtaining a fake ID.
@Closereveryday
@Closereveryday 2 жыл бұрын
Stay in your right mind. Problem solved
@shannontimoney5901
@shannontimoney5901 2 жыл бұрын
@@pamelamorris3148 that’s why the bar shouldn’t have been serving a minor alcohol in the first place 🤷🏻‍♀️ they’re supposed to be able to spot fake ID’s, that alone is negligence. Please stop acting like they did nothing wrong, it’s ridiculous.
@melissamccleary9611
@melissamccleary9611 2 жыл бұрын
Fake ID is different from fraudulent ID. My sister is 3 years older than me and when I went to the DMV I just got one but with my photo. I got lucky to not get caught, raped, or killed. Idk how.
@seahog1911
@seahog1911 2 жыл бұрын
@@shannontimoney5901 there’s a very easy way for aliens to obtain very authentic looking I.D’s. The networks in the U.S that make money from illegals or anyone connected are amazing. Why do you think 3 million in a year and a half can walk in and disappear. They obtain documentation by lying because they bring none and go invisible. It’s American citizens living on the streets not illegals except for a few.
@Ms.Brightside77
@Ms.Brightside77 2 жыл бұрын
That 72 hour rule is bullshit. I know it wouldn’t change her fate, but dammit, a parent or loved one knows when something is wrong. They know that she wouldn’t just be hungover somewhere.
@psn2660
@psn2660 2 жыл бұрын
There are no such laws. The first 24 hours of a missing person are the most important. So no. This is just laziness by the police. There are No waiting periods if you are concerned for someone’s welfare call and insist calmly and escalate to a senior officer or ask for missing persons unit/detective/section. Don’t take No for an answer.
@Ms.Brightside77
@Ms.Brightside77 2 жыл бұрын
@@psn2660 I pray I never have to do this. But if I do, like I said, a family member knows. I will never let someone tell me to wait.
@lauriekester4602
@lauriekester4602 2 жыл бұрын
Just a made up thing, IMO.
@MrsK976
@MrsK976 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not a real law. It’s not true.
@tonyprice2256
@tonyprice2256 2 жыл бұрын
You are right. It is BS - literally BS.
@FullTimePatient37
@FullTimePatient37 Жыл бұрын
The stepfather is a legend ❤ deepest condolences 🙏🏼
@julieoelker1865
@julieoelker1865 2 жыл бұрын
Ladies, this tragic case is a warning to limit the amount you drink when you're in public. And no, this does not mean she is at fault in any way. RIP Kenia.
@Mamadukee1
@Mamadukee1 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you,you should be safe in this world,but you have to be on your guard unfortunate!!!!😑🇬🇧
@tomorrowisanotherday12
@tomorrowisanotherday12 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. It is never the drunk woman's fault but that makes them an easy target. I don't drink and i also never date or give my time to men who drink.
@elizabethjarvie4472
@elizabethjarvie4472 2 жыл бұрын
And don't go to clubs that are run by bullying, thug bouncers! Go to a class establishment that would either let you back or go with you or go for you, to get your purse! Have S O M E concern for your clients, or do not patronize these establishments! I did a lot of clubbing when I was her age & never had anyone be so heartless that they wouldn't retrieve my purse if I left it.
@laracroft9079
@laracroft9079 2 жыл бұрын
She was at fault.
@wtaff16
@wtaff16 2 жыл бұрын
You’re so right Julie, it doesn’t get spoken about enough, Thanks for spreading the word. I for one will only drink water from now on! I’ll be well hydrated and safe at all times, I wish I’d have came Across your warnings sooner. Only drunk women get r@ped and murdered, how did we not see it? Stay sober and you too could be rewarded with just a vicious SA, a broken jaw, stroke and, eh, being set on fire - just like the second victim in this short video who you’ve apparently forgotten about. While I’ve go you Jules, if women who haven’t seen your groundbreaking research on the number of glasses of wine you recklessly enjoy with other targets (some people call them women) being a direct signal to men they’ve never met that they wish to to be brutally murdered, where can they find more of your top tips to help these poor guys stay out of prison? Any insight on what to do if you walk home sober like a human being in society, you have no idea there’s a young gentleman following you who fancies a bit of murdering, when he attacks you in your doorway, what’s the best way to tell him there’s been a huge misunderstanding, you’re sober and this would be an unprecedented attack as you never gave that stranger the signal, when he’s already broken your jaw? He must have felt so bad when he realized the girl he attacked - who again, then suffered a stroke after hurling herself, naked and ablaze, out of a window to try and avoid excruciating certain death - hadn’t even asked for it via tequila like them other gals. imagine the poor man who had to break the news to him that he messed up, she wasn’t even drunk, and now she’s only gone and lived and this time what he did was wrong - for once, they didn’t deserve it. It was July 4th, There was no doubt so many women in that town on that night who’d drank the rapable amount and just went home and kept being alive, I hope they feel responsible too. Just so many women at fault here, the system failed and now he has to go to prison for executing his god given right to women’s lives and bodies. Again Julie, can’t thank you enough for your advocacy work, few women are brave enough to fight for these rapists rights to viable excuses #Brave
@MrsRobinson0741
@MrsRobinson0741 2 жыл бұрын
I have 2 daughters & 3 grandkids and I cannot fathom what the parents of murdered and/or missing children go thru!! My heart goes out to every one of them & hope they find peace one day!! 😔😔
@jesterr7133
@jesterr7133 2 жыл бұрын
Kenia was a beautiful young woman. I will never understand how one person can do that to another. I am happy that Lydia survived her ordeal, but I can't imagine what life must be like for her, having to live every second of her life dealing with the results of what happened to her. She is truly a courageous woman.
@heidiklipp693
@heidiklipp693 2 жыл бұрын
You tell the story so well. Keep up the great work!
@MacBobby1408
@MacBobby1408 2 жыл бұрын
I have always hated the “wait 72 hours before we can let you file a missing persons report.” Especially because there have been so many cases where if they would have allowed the report to be filed when the family first called then a murder could have been stopped from happening.
@joeymims5852
@joeymims5852 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen this story before. Very sad! The one thing I just never understood, was why the heck did this guy text her phone. If he wouldn't have done that, he may have never gotten caught. They probably would have never come up with him as a suspect. Makes you think he subconsciencaly wanted to get caught. Sick F...!
@pickledragonrebel
@pickledragonrebel 2 жыл бұрын
He couldn't help himself . Part of the thrill for him is watching the reaction of the family and the police investigation. (Also a way to figure out what the police know)
@storyvault7
@storyvault7 2 жыл бұрын
People always do the stupidest stuff and get caught…….. makes me think of how many horrifying things happen and no one dose somthing stupid to get caught….
@debrarow1933
@debrarow1933 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same , must have been a thrill for the sicko
@400_billion_suns
@400_billion_suns 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he was worried about his friend saying something, and he wanted to get ahead of it. He drove a friend home with her, who he dropped off first. Just a guess. Glad he’s behind bars regardless.
@prettybaby80
@prettybaby80 Жыл бұрын
I’m familiar with this case , but this video provided information that I hadn’t heard of from other sources. Thank you 🙏🏽
@Runzwitscizzors
@Runzwitscizzors 2 жыл бұрын
omg my favorite channel!!!!! your amazing and so empathetic to the family's🥰
@brandonjohnson3558
@brandonjohnson3558 2 жыл бұрын
Usually I’m pretty numb to these stories, the ending made me tear up. I’m a father of two girls and I cannot imagine having my babies go through this.
@DrLuke49
@DrLuke49 2 жыл бұрын
The bouncers are perfect examples of how everyone is mortified of getting involved due to liability. How needlessly tragic.
@jk7713
@jk7713 10 ай бұрын
The bouncers are in no way to blame for this.
@jenniferstewart99
@jenniferstewart99 2 жыл бұрын
My dad would of soooo done the same thing! The cool thing is, my dad was black and named Tony. He passed away in January and this story makes me miss him soooo much because this dad and my dad are sooo much alike!! 😢 I feel soooo sorry for this family! 😞
@bepowerification
@bepowerification 2 жыл бұрын
*would have
@bhumphries1360
@bhumphries1360 2 жыл бұрын
My heart is completely broken for Lydia. That woman is the textbook definition of a warrior.
@amenwalton
@amenwalton 2 жыл бұрын
The sisters speech gave me goosebumps.
@azcowboy1963
@azcowboy1963 2 жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to the victims and their families. There can never be an excuse for heinous crimes such as this and the deal struck by this POS is disturbing.
@Chris_N_
@Chris_N_ 2 жыл бұрын
The only part of that deal that happened is the no death penalty part. I guarantee every inmate at whatever prison he went to knew exactly what he was there for.
@retr0gra3de
@retr0gra3de 2 жыл бұрын
the words of Kenia’s sister at the end were seriously so beautiful. what a loving person. so sad she lost her sister. she really loved her. breaks my heart for her and her family.
@courtneymsx
@courtneymsx 2 жыл бұрын
Her sisters words made me cry 🥺 RIP beautiful, and how inspiring of the woman who survived. Glad she has such a positive outlook and can inspire others!
@karlhans6678
@karlhans6678 2 жыл бұрын
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