The Grimm's Model Hiding in Plain Sight [Nikke Theory]

[@Velcan90]

Still mad Shift Up forgot that Alice overheats.

[@TakenaShin]

Yeah, I would've been satisfied with a simple explanation. Like maybe say that Alice is using a non combat body, or that her bunny outfit is made from the material as her cooling suit.

[@gigaslave]

The 2024 Famitsu interview reveals that her waste heat isn't dangerous to humans, but her thermal suit is meant to hide her heat signature in the frozen North.

[@Lazytoday-x2m]

Something I wanted to note in winter Ludmilla story, she mentions "Once I encountered the frist Nikkes, the Goddesses". I think with her noble title and stuff, she might of pulled some strings. Now I am kinda revisting all storys she is in, I think she may have a bigger rule, same for helm...

[@TakenaShin]

Yeah, it makes sense that she might've done something like that to meet them. I also agree that the both of might play a bigger role in the future. Specially since we're probably going to need the Admire in the fight against Liberalio and Leviathan.

[@animenut69]

I'm curious if the ark will build more ships since a lone ship is weak by itself. Maybe support destroyers or a missle sub

[@zahylon5993]

on a note, Helm and Ludmilla are also friends. In advice sessions Helm references Ludmilla. And also states that they both descend from Royalty. seeing the type of women selected to become Fairy Tale models (Dorothy was daughter of a politician, Rapunzel was a popess candidate, Lilith was an Air Force Ace...) it's likely than both Alice and Ludmilla are Fairy Tale models that Andersen kept as Back Up, they also serve under TETRA , and we've seen plenty of times Mustang helping people out of sheer goodwill.

[@Atomysk]

Every Pilgrim: serious Alice:WAAAHAAAAAAA!

[@TakenaShin]

@@Atomysk I read that in her JP voice.

[@SpeechlessWolf]

Rapunzel: Lusting over anything with a pulse Snow White: Treat? Scarlet: Let's imbibe spirits together Dorothy: Hate-love boner for humanity Crown: Emotionally smart but idiot in most other things Chime: Kisamaaaaaaa! Noah: A gremlin Isabel: Don't let her in, ever Harran: Thinks she's a witch Modernia: Stolen innocence Cinderella: I'm beautiful, you're beautiful, everyone is beautiful Only Grave is very serious and determined~

[@leoniemartin3440]

​@@SpeechlessWolf perfect description

[@thesenate3627]

​@@SpeechlessWolfNo treat

[@IodizedNaCL]

​@@SpeechlessWolf i still want Snow White gaining access to the super food Crown has and retire to become a farmer 😂

[@Aluren00]

That behemot reaction/quotes were ADORABLE as f! Earned a suscriber on that alone

[@Garyse]

Notice that BGMs OSTs that often plays when Anderson appears on screen are named Fairy Tale, not to mention that he is the voice that we hear in the Pilgrim tower.

[@dereklyma6310]

Good video Let's not forget that Ennik is producing two Super Nikkes that will probably be more powerful than most if not all Grimm's Models 🔥

[@TakenaShin]

Yes! I'm very excited for the Enikk Models.

[@dereklyma6310]

@@TakenaShin me too! 😁

[@Don_DeMarco]

I been interested in those two NIKKE ever since. I wonder if they will be NIKKE versions of her and Inekk? Or when they are made, will they belong to Missilis or Elysion? Or will there be a whole new manufacturer be created just for them?

[@animenut69]

Betting the 2 special nikke will be pilgrims

[@dereklyma6310]

@@Don_DeMarco good questions, the fact that it is a project that I assume is top secret perhaps meant that these two Nikke could be manufactured by something new. As for them being Nikke versions of Ark's two AI's, it's possible, but if I'm not mistaken, the rumor was that they would be Ennik's "daughters".

[@Kuro_Archive]

Banger video, I really loved that mirror segment, and it seems too close thematically to elements of the story to be a coincidence. also ur foul ash for 11:42 😭😭

[@TakenaShin]

@@Kuro_Archive yeah, initially the video was only supposed to be about Ludmilla = Snow Queen. But the moment I read the first chapter of the story, I immediately thought of Mirror Mirror and the NIMPH. There's also some details about the Snow Queen being compared to a Queen Bee and going into dark clouds. It kinda reminded me of Modernia descending from Dark Clouds while wearing her Rapture armor, since people compared that armor to a Queen Bee.

[@Kuro_Archive]

@@TakenaShin if modernia is modeled after a queen bee, then I wonder what factors led Marian to envisioning herself as such if Nihilister spoke the truth about the creation of Heretics. From what we know so far, she wasn't characterized as someone who wanted that kind of power or status, and was more or less just loyal to the commander to a fault. I've also seen others suggest she looks similar to a wasp, when talking about her rapture form.

[@TakenaShin]

@@Kuro_Archive I've seen an interesting theory about that. Stating that since she's wearing an armor and not a transformation she might be wearing the rapture form of another Heretic or the rapture Queen before her. And I think that the Queen Bee/ Queen Wasp form fits with the maternal instinct theme of the queen. So I honestly like that theory.

[@Kuro_Archive]

@@TakenaShin that actually makes sense, since indivillia pointed out that Marian is something separate from a Heretic, since she was unable to sense Marian's birth, time alive, and death. Being separate from a heretic, not entirely fully rapture or nikke, led to that identity crisis we saw in the last kingdom. So if she was using the form of the or a queen before her, I'm intrigued as to why they chose that to fit the motherly theme. While yeah, queen bees are the mother of all bees, the term itself when referring to things outside of bees has never really been positive, and has been used to describe popular women in positions of power who aren't particularly kind but rule with an iron fist or even cruelty. It's a spin on that trope I hope will be explained more. For Marian specifically though, it does fit, since she feels immense guilt killing raptures. Thinking about it from that angle though, killing her children is immensely messed up. But considering the story, not entirely surprising.

[@TakenaShin]

@@Kuro_Archive I mean it's the Rapture Queen, so her maternal love is probably twisted in some way. But yeah I agree that it fits Marian better.

[@Garyse]

Same so I wasn't the only one who noticed that they use Grimm instead of Fairy Tail model. While playing in KR dub I kept hearing Fairy Tail model and I thought that it made more sense than Grimm given the name of those models. And I also forgot that Chatterbox used the term Fairy Tail, sometimes the translations are a bit weird?

[@Blue50919]

I think that Alice is pretty much secretly a Pilgrim.

[@Velcan90]

You mean a Grimms model? A Pilgrim is only a Nikke that has abandoned or is not in contact with the Ark.

[@9NoobTuber5]

Man those BGMs... CosmoGod... i need a Nikke anime series...

[@Least_mystical]

After watching this, i hope devs don't forget about the other two second generation fairy tale models. They have a perfect setup to tease or show us them in the second anniversary, since it going to be Cinderella related event. It be really cool if we got to see that they didn't get destroyed but was transferred to another site while Cinderella fought off the raptures, and Cinderella sacrificed herself to save the other two fairy tale models. That would be such a good cliff hanger for her event, and shows that there still two fairy tale models that are either in cryo sleep like Cinderella or just isn't fully built yet. Which would be really nice with stronger and stronger heretics showing up, plus dorothy going off the deep end and trying to destroy the ark, which would probably mean she would try to manipulate eden into a war with the ark. Which ark is nowhere near strong enough for that war. So having Cinderella plus her two sisters in away would be nice for both of those scenarios lol.

[@TakenaShin]

Yeah, hopefully Shift Up would at least give us a hint in the event.

[@toyue4201]

Yeah, the western localization is so inconsistent, it's weird. Sometimes I wonder if they talk with the Game devs before making changes. I say western, because the french and german official translation are based on the english translation and localizaton. However, even these have difference from the english due their localization. Anyway, interesting theory on Ludmilla. Personally, I also don't believe Ludmilla to be a Grimms Model. While NIKKE does make many references and connection, they also take a lot of artistic liberty in designing the characters. Example are Scarlet and Rose (Hongryeon and Janghwa) who also turned out to be mass-produced models and not Grimms models. Likewise Alice turned out to be no Grimms Model.

[@TakenaShin]

@@toyue4201 yeah there are even times when the dub is completely different from what's written in the dialogue box for the localization. As for the Janghwa Hongryeon jeon the only thing I've read about it is the Wikipedia article so I might be wrong. But I think it lacks the fantasy element often associated with fairy tales, so it makes sense that they're not classified as a Grimm's model. But yeah I agree with you.

[@tiggerbane4325]

I think Ludmilla having the energy sapping powers actually points to the fact that she is NOT a Grimm (fairytale) model. Much like it does with Alice. These were clearly things done to try and make the models stronger than they would be without side effects and the only Grimm(fairytale) model produced at that time that has a side effect was Liliewiess who isn’t really a Grimm as she’s the prototype model (Siren/Little Mermaid and the voice thing might also fall in that category now if you want though.) Further Ludmilla may have been a sovereign but before she became a Nikke stuff was going on so as to likely have lowered her position though if we can extrapolate from Red Hood just being high ranking wouldn’t necessarily mean one would become a Grimm model. Ludmilla is likely one of the first Non-Grimm special models as opposed to Grave who is an abnormal mass produced model.

[@AshenDivine]

Ok so I have a baseless theory, Neon is the failed clone of Lilith😅

[@TakenaShin]

@@AshenDivine imagine if she's actually created using Lilith's body. 😂😂

[@justsomeguywithlasereyes9920]

The music is a banger as usual from NIkke but I could barely hear you over it at times and outright went over your voice in others, try lowering the volume.

[@TakenaShin]

Thanks for the tip, I'll make sure to do that.

[@dlarenceparks2211]

Would explain why Alice is so busted and not just in the chest area

[@SAMTheKingslayer]

W eng Dub makes this watchable And very W content creator he have here

[@Garyse]

I love your music choises for this video but sometimes it was too loud and I couldn't hear what you were saying 😅

[@KnightDogNamedBuns]

I do wish to question it, there is a fairytale model and there is a fairytale grimms model. I think alice is a fairytale model also pretty should be beauty as per translation they said.

[@TakenaShin]

Oh yeah, Pretty actually being named Beauty makes perfect sense.

[@leoniemartin3440]

I'm more curious on when did the ark have the time to make second gen fairy tale models by the way Cinderella so casually mentions it like they were made and she met them before and I think Rose might come back as fairy tale model Briar Rose it's not unlike as second gens would be made around that time If your last theory on her is right on the money

[@TakenaShin]

yup I also think that Rose is going to become Briar Rose if they really turned her into a Fairy Tale Model.

[@BurghezulDjentilom]

Grimms is just the in-universe designation, it's pointless to nitpick that wizard of oz etc aren't written by Grimm bros specifically.

[@orcel3000]

Alice is not a fairytale?

[@TakenaShin]

@@orcel3000 yup Alice in Wonderland is a children's novel.

[@tarnishedStruggler]

L eng dub makes this unwatchable

[@peachy_exe.]

yea..the eng dub is really bad