The grindset has left us depressed. Here’s one thing that can save us. | Lisa Miller

Excessive goal-setting has made us depressed. Lisa Miller, a Columbia psychology professor, explains what could save us.
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What if our innate spirituality was the antidote to the escalating rates of mental health issues in the world? Dr. Lisa Miller, a Columbia University professor, studies the profound interplay between spirituality and mental health. She argues that our modern obsession with achievement has led to neglect of our spiritual side, contributing to increased depression and despair. In contrast, "awakened awareness," a state where we are receptive to life's signals and guidance, can serve as a neuroprotective mechanism against such issues. Emphasizing the universality of spirituality, irrespective of religiosity, she suggests altruistic acts as a means to strengthen our spiritual core. Such acts, according to her, could ignite a journey of recovery and holistic wellness.
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About Lisa Miller:
Lisa Miller, Ph.D., is a professor in the Clinical Psychology Program at Teachers College, Columbia University. She is the Founder and Director of the Spirituality Mind Body Institute, the first Ivy League graduate program and research institute in spirituality and psychology, and has held over a decade of joint appointments in the Department of Psychiatry at Columbia University Medical School.
Her innovative research has been published in more than one hundred peer-reviewed articles in leading journals, including Cerebral Cortex, The American Journal of Psychiatry, and the Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry. She is the New York Times bestselling author of The Spiritual Child.
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[@abhaabha7850]

My mother always taught me to be nice to everyone around, look at them and smile, greet them with warmth, help the elderly even if they don’t ask, and offer and share with people around you… I did not realise how it has become an involuntary trait in me, and its probably what has kept me so sane and fulfilled. Even on rainy days, it always feels like i will get through it, and even those days don’t stop me from smiling at strangers & caring for the people around me. Thanks for the video ! Really made sense

[@hwway4488]

It’s not a spiritual decline it’s a social decline. Modern society is isolating individuals and alienating fellow human beings, usually for social economic reasons

[@toyotaprius79]

Our spirit is the human animal. The social animal. And animal that lets be honest is racked, colonised and brainwashed by some 400 years of capitalism. Definitely the last 40s years of extreme productivity and extreme poverty for the many. Those socioeconomic factors. Which lets be honest, the politics (neoliberalism) behaves more like a religion (that insists what is truth, sacrifice and debt) than it does a relative ideology

[@toyotaprius79]

And I find it interesting the reactions of some when I say that the sins that Jesus meant were the debts of sins and monetary debts included. Jesus preached for the forgiveness of all debts. He was crucified or politically assassinated for threatening the forgive debts of people. The Silver Jubilee existed generations prior to him as a 49 year celebration that cancelled all non commercial debts Makes sense how our world today has ended up in this fan +💩 situation.

[@Paramitacdewi]

Humans have been doing that for ages, not only modern society

[@dm-hn2wt]

It's both

[@newagain9964]

Thank you capitalism for replacing monarchs with another kind of tyranny. And one that can’t is virtually impossible to hold accountable or removed ❤.

[@ivanl.6797]

As an atheist, I've found spirituality. Not in the form of a "higher magical thing", but in a combination of these few things: - Meditation, to better control my emotional and thought patterns. Learning how to suspend overthinking. Self-reflection and questioning my notions, to find better suited ones for ongoing situations. - Connect, to others in a meaningful way, pursue hobbies and interests that build a community around you. Find what you couldn't find within. What a "higher magical thing", as the ambiguous idea that "the universe" does something magical for me (like the Secret), did not do for me as a skeptic. I found a way in the deeper purpose, and found pride in a good willed narrative, because it can drive me through hard times. I know there might be a few skeptics out there like me, so I share this in hopes that it reaches them. We do not need to -suspend- our critical thinking, we just need to understand why/how these things work, and use them in a way that better align to our beliefs.

[@warrensabastienanderson]

I explored atheism once, I still enjoy some content from some KZbinrs. I also identified as agnostic. What I've come to learn is that by trying to escape Religion, all we do is create a religion of our own. Religion is about pursuing our higher spiritual self...religiously. Realizing this, I started to explore religion again with an open mind. It is clear that ancient people had less distractions and more time to figure out some things about this place. I have come to respect that and learn from it. I agree with your sentiments wholeheartedly. It is in the doing that we find our answers, and this applies to everything. I think the tacit knowledge that comes through practice can never really be transferred to someone looking for spirituality in brick, mortar, pages, or gemstones.

[@ivanl.6797]

@@warrensabastienanderson Atheists are not trying to "escape religion", that's a serious misunderstanding of what religion means. Even it might be a serious misunderstanding of what an atheist and a skeptic really can be. Excuse me. I appreciate you taking your time to write up a response, and understand the point. But religion has no monopoly and ownership over good ideas, nor it has a leg up based on how long it's been around. Everything religion offers, we can separate from myth and superstition.

[@i_accept_all_cookies]

@@ivanl.6797 what is your definition of religion? The dictionary definition is a belief in and devotion to a deity (or deities). What you described above sounds closer to stoicism. Or perhaps you've created your own philosophy.

[@ivanl.6797]

@@i_accept_all_cookies I understand that a religion is a set of -positive- beliefs about the supernatural and the divine. Some people might define it differently, in an attempt to rebrand their particular religion as a "no-religion" due to the negative connotations attached to the word. I appreciate stoicism, some of my ideals align to it. Have a cookie 🍪

[@warrensabastienanderson]

@@ivanl.6797 I meant escape in the sense of not subscribing to (edit: or even avoiding bombardment). I didn't mean to indicate that religion has a monopoly over anything or is authoritative in that sense. I meant to convey that for me at the heart of religion is a system and method of pursuing a higher self by the pursuit of certain tasks daily (Religiously). Unfortunately, religion is often confused for religious institutions. All the best to you on your journey.

[@VoiceForTheSilenced]

My daughter is almost 16… I try to share things like this with her. Things that will improve her mental, spiritual, and emotional health. She says to me “you’re just old and can’t hang anymore.” I’m 40. Sadly she is going to experience the brute force of the world and be blind sided. I hope I’m still around to help her through those times, since I’m so old and all.

[@AyushreeBag]

Don't worry you are a great parent and your prayer will protect her from harm

[@goattttttt954]

I hope the best for your daughter. I'm 23 and there are times in the day where I feel so lost and disoriented and the worst part is I can't understand why. It's the times we're living in, the pace at which the world is going on about nothing really makes sense somehow. I don't know how my generation and coming ones could ever deal with all of this :(

[@jJust_NO_]

you just cant unless they initiate and seek for it themselves. no matter they wouldnt understand and youd just be deemed as a nuisance. i was once lost, meaning superficially absorbing wordly views and i was preyed and influenced by these forces. it was not an easy life. too many highs and lows, too much noise and much more impulsive than intuitive but i was guided when i became receptive and opened. still needs a fune tuning and brain refinement though. these days, i just know for a fact that i can get the thoughts of others instantaneously. im able to read their thoughts and moods and see their emotions. im so sensitive of others energies

[@keysersoze5032]

@@goattttttt954 stop being soft then

[@minirock000]

@@jJust_NO_ You are sensitive to other people's emotions, we call that "empathy". There is no such thing as ESP. There has been no evidence collected to show it exists in the natural world. Since there is no way to test for the 'super-natural', because it doesn't exist. It seems someone has you convinced about something that isn't real. You became "receptive and opened", take it easy with the innuendos already.

[@sophiaisabelle01]

Grinding can be overused. Let's face it: we've all hustled ourselves to the point where we feel mentally and physically drained. As much as I don't particularly feel the need to call out some people who may have abused their bodies to the point of exhaustion, I do, in some way, understand where they're coming from. They must always conform to their goal-driven mindsets if that's what it takes to propel them to success.

[@kevintewey1157]

They face a brutal system shows no mercy and encourages psychopathy. Yeah that's where the workers are at

[@DanielDavis-kl5cl]

@@kevintewey1157 Being a phycopath is Aryan.

[@kevintewey1157]

@@DanielDavis-kl5cl are you trying to tell me that capitalism encourages good morals? I'll bet you $1,000 I can prove the opposite

[@thaiduonghe2805]

Wow it's so true in my area

[@ZoeLateNight]

I wish everyone could make a living by utilizing unique abilities and talents we had as children. What did you enjoy creating when you were little? What activities made you happy and brought happiness to others around you? It goes hand-in-hand with spirituality and could heal the world.

[@VoiceForTheSilenced]

I became a massage therapist. It’s been an amazing journey!

[@mgasparywriter]

As a child, I love creating stories in my head. The adults in my life often saw me playing the classic Tetris while murmuring stories for hours. As a result, I became an author as an adult. True, going back to my childhood hobbies helped me survive suicide and overcome depression (though I still deal with anxiety and all that, it's under control). :)

[@ZoeLateNight]

@@VoiceForTheSilenced 🤗

[@ZoeLateNight]

@@mgasparywriter 🤗

[@JesusRodriguez-fo2br]

I like how more of this topic is being talked about. Our spiritual essence in creation is not religious. The spirit has exisisted long before any religion took control of the mind, body, and spirit. Its amazing when you realize that it doesn't matter what you believe, it doesnt negate the spiritual essence inside you, if only it just wants to be acknowledged for its existence and help its given you by becoming a part of you during development. Without acknowledging it, you're less aware.

[@sophiemandese6989]

I used to be atheist and non-spiritual because no one else around me was and religion always rubbed me the wrong way. By chance I can across videos about eastern spirituality, namely non-duality/advaita vedanta, and my whole perspective on life has changed dramatically. I went from believing there's no god to believing/knowing everything is god, everything is one and everything is peace. And the way it was explained was surprisingly so logical and intuitive, not like other 'spiritual things' that require blind faith (chakras, crystal healing, etc). I've never been so happy, hopeful and fulfilled in my life!

[@naturalinstinct4950]

I went through a very similar journey

[@naturalinstinct4950]

@@Dimitris_Half lol take your issue elsewhere

[@sophiemandese6989]

@@Dimitris_Half Technically all is one so you just triggered yourself 😂 Look past ego and the mind and you'll see that they're the true copium

[@sophiemandese6989]

@@Dimitris_Half Hope you find peace 🙏

[@sophiemandese6989]

@@Dimitris_Half And what would 'coming back to my senses' entail to you? Going back to an ego-centric life of desires, futility and suffering? I'd rather be happy, thanks.

[@Mackcolak-xf5bk]

By this logic, the more religious the population is the less depressed people will have mental health problems. The US is one of the most religious countries, yet it is one of the leaders in the amount of depressed people, and antidepressant consumption. At the same time, many European countries have a significant decline in religion's popularity, yet it does not correlate with the rise of amount of depressed people. Can someone explain to me what I am missing here?

[@toyotaprius79]

And obviously, the correlation of happiness is more attributed to the levels of good socioeconomic, of healthy biological and material conditions One that does not serve only to create wealth only for investors and speculators at the expense of all habitats and life on earth - and workers.

[@Gobbldeegoo1]

You’re not missing anything. This video is just flat out wrong. Spirituality is definitely not the solution for burnout or grinding too much. There are economic solutions that can be implemented by governments to solve the issue of working too much for too little. She’s just wrong… and deflecting from the root issue that causes depression and burnout, which is bad socioeconomics.

[@raiisbox3371]

@@Gobbldeegoo1 yeah... This is more subjective, and I'm really disappointed why it was posted here...

[@beruga]

This video is a great demonstration as to why the field of Psychology is undergoing a major replication crisis.

[@othervideos4002]

Religion and spirituality are two completely separate things. Most if not all religions are mind-based dogmas, not spiritual practices. Most spiritual practices do not have anything to do with religion, but focus on a shared higher power that transcends the logical/psychological mind. If you read the Power of Now from Eckhart Tolle you will see he is not preaching any religion. He doesn't even like the term "god" because it is so often misused to conjure up the image of a man in the sky. I don't know of any organized religions that are spiritual, other than perhaps some original forms of Taoism and Buddhism.

[@tw06le1]

I just came off anti depressants after cVid knocked me & business on my ass. I still wake up feeling like I have wasted my entire life, yet everyone says I should change my mindset. Easiest words to say, exactly what to do is the billion dollar question. It's hard to see different when you are broke, destitute, hot, miserable, with more problems than solutions. Rising inflation on everything, money having less worth everyday. I can't pretend, but I could forget for a short while, then reality hits you like a tonne of bricks

[@toyotaprius79]

The inevitability of Capitalism that we're all entirely made reliant on material success. Whereas indigenous populations had weather in stories and knowledge that made them able to sustain off the land.

[@toyotaprius79]

Then there's yknow climate collapse

[@zakarylittle6767]

You may have considered these things and I really hope they don't trigger any further existential dread if you haven't but I think they are worth taking a reasonable amount of time to introspect on if you haven't. I think you have a loss of purpose not spirituality (which is just one means to a purpose, the lady in this video is terrible at getting this point across). I'm going to use the word purpose a lot but try not to conflate it with goal. The big distinction : a goal is an ending/result; purpose goes on forever and is proven through goals. 1) Do you need to be happy to have purpose? 2) Do you feel happier when you have purpose? It seems to me you had what you feel like was your purpose in life taken away from you. That really sucks. I've found these questions when introspected upon help one understand that they can be sad and in a shitty situation and still work towards purpose; through that purpose then happiness grows. 3) If you don't have a purpose anymore then what do you want your achievable purpose to be? 4) Don't do this one first. It will make it more challenging to answer the others as they will be corrupted by goals rather then proper self reflection. What goals can you set that work towards your purpose? #3 is a difficult question for some people. If you struggle with it I would suggest looking to your passions. Passion combined with purpose is how greatness is achieved (I'm sure as a business owner you know that). So what better place to find a purpose then through your passions. While you don't have to make those passions you can turn into work it seem to me likely better if you can (as we do spend ~30% of our waking life there); if not then you just need to make sure you don't let work impede the time spent working on what you think matters (purpose). Finally if you ever feel that itch again just go through the process again. You might be at the top of the field in something you once loved and get the same existential dread creeping in. Same questions will give you new purpose and direction once meditated.

[@DevonVeyron]

@@zakarylittle6767I needed to read this. Thank you!

[@method341]

@@toyotaprius79 why don't you go and live with the indigenous folk and tell us what it's like instead of engaging in idealistic anti-capitalist rhetoric. Let's see some action and less keyboard. Thanks.

[@Rooftopaccessorizer]

my problem is that I find the 9-5 dayjob to be so soul destroying that my only other option is to grind and try to find an alternative method of income.

[@MadsNordholm]

Simplify your life and realise that you don’t really need much money to be happy, which means you don’t need a 9-5. You don’t even need to grind, as long as you are able to redefine what success means to you instead of letting others define it for you

[@goemonishikawa3755]

​@@MadsNordholmI agree, but I can't help but grind 9-5 jobs and other side hustles because I live in a third world country with worst inflation that's eating up all my money.

[@MadsNordholm]

@@goemonishikawa3755 I understand your situation so well. But the irony is that when we grind and continue to ‘play the game,’ we only worsen the effect of inflation. The system is rigged against those at the bottom. The only solution is to radically change your mindset and shed the shackles of consumerism. No easy task, but if you succeed you may just find true happiness

[@adammorra3813]

​@MadsNordholm and how do you do that? Especially when you have a family.

[@JadBourji]

You can't NOT have some sort of job or income. How else are you going to EAT and keep a roof over your head? Believe me, I know. I am in this position where I really hate soul crushing 9-5 and have tried going without it for a while and freelancing but that didn't work out so well with the crushing competition out there. And I think of multiple things I can do as business projects to get better off financially but those require money (capital). I have gone without food for days, had to walk for a few hours to get somewhere. Believe me, it is not easy. Now I'm taking a 9-5 again to supplement my income, ans then the only way is to save up some money IN ORDER to afford putting money in your financial freedom.. But financial freedom nowadays really could mean FOOD ON THE TABLE. It's that crucial. How else are you gonna eat???

[@Jessicatorres_768]

Building wealth involves developing good habits like regularly putting money away in intervals for solid investments. Instead of trying to predict and prognosticate the stability of the market and precisely when the change is going to happen, a better strategy is simply having a portfolio that’s well prepared for any eventually, that’s how some folks' been averaging 150K every 7week these past 4months according to Bloomberg.😊

[@SophiaBint-wj8wn]

That’s crazy, I’m just doing everything wrong with my portfolio.

[@philipcollen482]

The US-Stock Mrkt had been on it’s longest bull-run in history, so the mass hysteria and panic is relatable considering we’re not accustomed to such troubled mrkts, but there are avenues lurking around if you know where to look. My wife and I are retiring this year with over $7,000,000 in tax deferred investments. up until 3 years ago we were 100% in the S&P. During bear markets we had a perfect plan. We got an investment manager in our corner and didn’t look at our portfolio for nearly a year.

[@blessingpaul5484]

Same here, 75% of my portfolio is in the red and I really don’t know how long I can stomach the losses. I’m beginning to reach a breaking point.

[@alicebenard5713]

Patience patience patience. It's a cycle.... a sucky point in the cycle, but a cycle nonetheless.

[@brittanynicolette9473]

Hello, I am new when it comes to investing and i would really appreciate if I could get some tips about where it is worth to invest in (ETFs, Stocks, Growth stocks, Dividend stock etc.)

[@EasilyAmused42]

Our ultimate goal, daily should be Happiness. It's not a competition. We are all headed for the same destination, it's the journey that matters. What is depressing about that journey is the drudgery. The myth that we must get a job no matter how empty and soul sucking it might be and then slave away for at least 40 hours if not twice that a week. It's the mindset the soul sucking company has instilled into society. It's all BS, but until enough people call BS, it will not change. Be Happy on Purpose. Be Grateful for every Breath. Relish in and be grateful for the beauty all around you. Thank You.

[@davids_d3246]

AMEN! Agree but... do you have other concrete options?

[@5hydroxyT]

I also generally agree with this as an idea, but i think it is a sociological and ethnocentric point of view. "Slaving away for at least 40 hours a week" is an inescapable reality for those in the global South (and for many living in the North as well), and it is a reality that supports our way of living, whether that be for the purpose of grinding or finding spiritual enlightenment

[@andrewsmith3257]

I just can't wait for my life to be over

[@joepond769]

Happiness should not be a goal! How do you become happy? Life is filled with highs and lows and pretending there is no suffering or difficulty in life is completely denying the human experience. Having meaning or satisfaction in our life can bring about feelings of contentment. I think that may be where you are aiming but just saying “be happy” is so unrealistic. There are lots of videos about why aiming for happiness is unhealthy. Check them out.

[@EasilyAmused42]

@@joepond769If Happiness isn't the goal of life, what is. Please explain your vision.

[@proprgent]

It might help if you can occasionally attempt these 3 things: - breathe through nose steadily and fully to provide oxygen to the brain - exercise focus instead of getting attached to idle thoughts - allow yourself to feel the physical sensation of any emotion you have until it runs it's course

[@Jhawk_2k]

Meditation in a nutshell. It's truly possible to meditate without even realizing it!

[@proprgent]

@@Jhawk_2k do you think it's possible that meditation basically boils down to exercising deep focus?

[@Jhawk_2k]

@@proprgent focus is critical to meditation. Without focus meditation can still be calming, but it's unlikely to foster spiritual growth imo

[@itzhakbentov6572]

I was an atheist since age 13. I was also depressed and intermittently preoccupied with suicidal ideation. I went on an ayahuasca journey at 45. I was never that depressed again. I’m 63 now and very spiritual. Life can be tough, but my spirituality keeps it from going to depression.

[@ZafOsophy]

You can only call yourself a spiritual being, when you wish the same for every living creature, that you wish for yourself. Therefore, I wish every living creature, joy, peace, success and happiness 🙏

[@Kazkira]

This is such a quality video and can help so many young one's understand the importance of spiritual health and understanding depression.

[@toyotaprius79]

And how we create and share wealth?

[@TheBillhimer346]

What is spiritual health lol

[@MadsNordholm]

The idea of focusing on altruism and neighbourly love is at the core of quite a few schools of thought. Interesting that her scientific approach has also led her to the conclusion that it’s the ultimate path to happiness. Couldn’t agree more

[@5hydroxyT]

A follow up study done by Dr Miller found that religiousity/spirituality INCREASED depression later in life...I wonder if that's because as one starts to invest in the "awakened awareness", we are confronted with the harsh reality of modernity/coloniality?

[@kiran8852]

Where can i find this study?

[@5hydroxyT]

@@kiran8852 search the author's name + religious + depression on google scholar

[@seeknohonours4710]

She's got to define spirituality from the bat.

[@toyotaprius79]

Does she have to define ignorance and density too?

[@sotvrno93]

​@@toyotaprius79Calm down, Einstein.

[@beruga]

She eventually says that it means connecting to a higher power, whether that's God, Nature, the Universe or whatever. But then she conflates spirituality with altruism, so in the end I have no idea what she's talking about.

[@xiwi2]

She defined traits of awakened conciousness, spirituality would be defined by a path reinforcing those. That's my reading. So she actually did define it, IMHO. You can use the transcript to help with following the video :) Does that help?

[@seeknohonours4710]

​@@xiwi2yes, her definition of awakened consciousness resonated with me quite a lot.

[@Gobbldeegoo1]

Imagine thinking spiritualism is the answer to the grind… and not changing the economic factors that lead to it like working 40+ hours a week, making less then a living wage on top of it, not being able to afford starting a family or buying a starter home, no universal healthcare or government benefits so can’t leave your job, can’t get help because you make just enough to cross the threshold of getting help. This lady just wants you you to get back to work already… take a 10 min breather and re-center yourself, imagine your connected to the entire universe, then get back to work.

[@WookieChewie13]

Well she cant change reality cant she, do you want her to tell you to quit your job? Shes giving us something doable, what exactly are you looking for?

[@bupnstuff1818]

Well said.

[@Bigbrothersinsight]

Technically not really considering you can sustain yourself living off the grid if you educate your self what your describing is dependency to modern society. And that you my friend are a product of government programing. Refocus your life in a way that you can balance both

[@SideB1984]

Medical trauma pushed me into an extreme existential crisis. I left my corporate career and lost my network of friends from hobbies, divorced, relocated to a new state. After a decade of crisis, I started making art and sending it or giving it to people. I figure it's the best I can do in these circumstances, and it's leading me to my true north, all while showing me my painful parts that need integration and rest. The simple slow life is balm.

[@DearProfessorRF]

Every living being, in essence is, or has, a spiritual aspect of their existence. Being spiritual is not a choice. Everything in the cosmos has a spiritual and a material aspect. Carrying out a spiritual practice is a choice.

[@maltedmilk6888]

Don't underestimate the smart well-established people who know how to enslave everyone else

[@charliestein9350]

A) The term 'spirituality' is ill-defined here. In what way is altruism a form of spirituality? B) We are depressed because we work too hard, regardless of our spiritual standing. No amount of meditation can fix that. C) Most people confuse spirituality with supernatural thinking. They console themselves with stories about an afterlife etc. Of course, this can help with depression, only it's false.

[@gregpastic6910]

I agree wholeheartedly. I'd like to add that spiritual practices or rituals have historically taken place within a community, i.e. people sharing the experience with you. We have never in human history been so isolated from a sense of community, yet so tightly packed together. How many of your neighbours do you know? Practices and rituals serve to keep us grounded and aware, and serve as markers of our important life events like birth, graduation, marriage, and so on. Yes, individual practices and rituals are important too. But we humans are social animals. Many studies have shown that people who participate in regular social activities including all forms of worship, social clubs, charities, volunteer work, church involvement, public service, golf, etc., live longer, healthier lives than socially isolated people. Random Acts of Kindness - practice it as often as you can.

[@Jim-rv7qv]

Spiritually without proactivity is like that biblical passage that states that faith without deeds is dead. Some say faith is "personal but not private". It may be the result of mistaken semantics, but sometimes it seems like it's the other way around.

[@Life_42]

I strongly agree with effective altruism!

[@vadersgoldfish]

Awesome! I’ve always wanted a thicker cortex!

[@InspiringKeynoteSpeakers]

The idea that we all have a natural spiritual capacity and that acts of kindness can pave the way to our awakened brain is thought-provoking.

[@gravestone4840]

Spirituality prevents depression because it is you lying to yourself to protect yourself from truth. It is just as unhealthy as embracing nihilistic viewpoints. The truth is that we're depressed because we're worked to the point of snapping. On top of that, we're obsessed with ourselves and can't handle when we don't live up to the lie we sell others.

[@ambersalert]

For anyone who's listened to Neville Goddard, I would like to point out how in his speeches he says that all the comnandments boil down to love of thy neighbor, and this is being backed up here when she explains that the bare minimum for turning around feelings of depression is altruism.

[@Ljmaticz7]

I feel so blessed that I stumbled on to your site....Thank you....and Peace.

[@LauradeVasconcelos]

Hi Lisa, I warmly recommend reading the books by professor and scientist Allan Kardec if you haven't yet. The Spirits Book and Genesis specially, they're dense, but worth every word. Thanks for spreading the light✨

[@danielkoloff3245]

So I’m genuinely curious.. does the fact that spirituality and religion has helped our species become who we are today mean that we should still be spiritual/religious? I know a lot of people who are depressed because of their religious beliefs. I just want to see people find community, be their authentic selves, and act with kindness. I just don’t think religion should be the primary way of finding those things anymore. I would love to hear thoughts on this

[@JohnColorado3811]

choose to explore your spirituality with meditation , gratitude prayer ( non religious ) , volunteering, solitude, long walks in nature, read philosophy and religious texts as they contain great wisdom interleaved with mythology poetry and history

[@jamesdahmer5027]

I can't help but query though... I have spent the last 15 years of my life helping people either as a paramedic, firefighter, or in search and rescue... much of that time completely as a volunteer. How is it that those experiences of "helping my neighbour" has only exacerbated my burnout?

[@WillyJunior]

Because you need to balance helping others with doing things just for yourself. Both are as important as each other. It's often easier to tackle other's problems than to truly address our own problems.

[@quintessenceSL]

Because the core to any of these "solutions" is not to ask why you feel burned out, but instead put your salvation in some nebulous "helping others". While the Patch Adams approach does allow you to get outside of your head, it doesn't resolve (or even give you space to question) the why. To wit- nurses have some of the greatest burnout rates. They are quite vocal about the why (monetary interests always putting pressure to do more with less).

[@DearSX]

I have used spirituality for 20 years to help with my Bi-Polar disorder and mental health recovery. I have not had an episode in over 15 years, no major depression over 15 years, outside of some sad days, like when my car breaks down, dog died etc. I work a hybrid remote job and work at my own pace most of the time, no need to go "crazy" for work or feel ashamed of it, but urgency is needed for a job sometimes. I incorporate some of spirituality with my counselor, at home with my family, some with my church, from from meditation, etc.

[@rajanghosh5757]

Thank you for sharing 😊

[@horstfleischmann10]

0:28 since the worlds population is growing you always want relative numbers instead of absolute ones. The population grew from 5,3 billion in 1990 to 7,6 billion in 2017. That alone could explain the rise in these cases.

[@DY2784]

Wisdom which continues on... "There's more happiness in giving than in receiving"... (Acts 20:35)

[@findmestudios]

As much as spirituality helps I think more work life balance is essential: 4 day work week, stronger unions better vacation days etc.

[@peterkulczycki6244]

This is a word soup and conflates a lot of different matters. If it can’t be explained simply and all that.

[@workingtoseethelight8244]

I am currently being broken trying to keep my misguided family alive. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Lisa! And to any loving higher powers, as I am praying!

[@emanuelherreraalvarez1312]

Keep going! Don't give up

[@KedarKanekar]

I might just be religious, the way I've been hiding behind altruism and atheism at the same time, while lying that I'm not a spiritual being. When in fact, my innate will to do good onto others, has been protecting me, my family, and my life. ❤️😁

[@emanuelherreraalvarez1312]

Almost two years ago, I unintentionally killed my spiritual beliefs and religious beliefs and so on, and as my whole life was built on religion. So on, I felt rocking bottom and heading and entered into a profound depression :'( and it's been really hard to get out of there

[@9loyt9]

that must have felt really confusing and frustrating, although I may not know you I genuinely wish you the very best and hope you can go where you want to go in life ❤ keep going!

[@DoleyLama]

Once our survival needs are met, spiritual evolution should be the only focus. Anything else will cause disharmony.

[@timelapsephotography6650]

Fantastic!

[@RabiRose]

I don't know how I feel about this train of thought.. but the video imagery was done well!

[@folu12]

Beautifully presented, thank you.

[@Motivation-gz7gy]

Well explained. Thank you

[@trx3264]

I totally agree about psychology. Learn to connect with spirit.

[@i.care.about.you.podcast]

This is incredible! I watched it twice in a row. So deeply resonates. Thank you so much for this work it’s life changing ❤

[@gmenezesdea]

"it is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society"

[@sunnyrays2281]

Excellent points. Thank you.

[@vandalpaulius]

I feel that's just a long winded: "humans need distraction from the innate meaninglessness of their existence"

[@Azazello243]

The Templeton sponsorship is showing more and more in the videos. Used to love them

[@leanbiera]

Beautiful beautiful beautiful video ❤❤ Honestly

[@rownrown]

That was extremely insightful thank you

[@dasbroose]

"It's critically important that you do this thing, but I won't tell you how in this video." This is why short-form content isn't always appropriate for all topics. This discussion cannot be contained in a six minute edit.

[@lucidmetta]

Thanks!

Beautifully explained 👏🏻😃

[@tinyrocks7549]

Religion and spiritualism are two separate concepts in my opinion, but as I understand it she's talking about altruism and belief processes that release the "feeling safe and cared for" neurochemicals.

[@Mackcolak-xf5bk]

Could that be that the increase of substance use disorders is because of opioid prescriptions, but not because of a "sharp decline in spirituality"?

[@toyotaprius79]

Any critique of capitalism can do that. Honestly there's more than enough explainers of the damage created in the rust belt, by corporate negligence, of backbreaking work and overly creating a reliance on pain killers Stuff nobody is allowed to talk about on msm

[@marchlopez9934]

Dr. Lisa Miller, a professor of psychology and education at Columbia University, explains in a TED Talk that spirituality is an essential component of mental health. She argues that as we have become more disconnected from our spiritual selves, there has been an increase in addiction, depression, and suicide rates. Achieving awareness, which is tactical thinking, and awakened awareness, which is our deeper purpose and direction in life, are both necessary for mental health. The awakened brain has three major networks: the frontotemporal, the bonding network, the attention network, and the parietal. Dr. Miller suggests that everyone is born with the neuro-docking station for awakened awareness, but we need to engage our awakened brain to get there. Altruism, or love for our neighbor, is the form of spiritual life that most correlates with a strong cortex. If we are feeling stuck or trapped in despair or depression, we should step out of our comfort zone and do something nice for someone else. The act of giving can help renew our sense of purpose and direction in life.

[@d4rkh4l34]

we need alot more research into spirituality

[@melonydee]

Thank goodness for this! Just bought your book! This (awakening) saved me.

[@yessumify]

This is beautiful. I'm thankful to know God and to be set free by His Son, my Savior, Jesus. I hope you know Him, too.

[@kathypetty8996]

Thank you! For this!

[@nickelgruss9374]

Mindblowing

[@Lynn-yd9ze]

This is so fascinating. I have a dear person in my life who has Asperger's and he is incredibly intelligent and a very logical thinker. One thing he has difficulty with is connecting to his spirituality. I'm just wondering how the difference in brain wiring has effected access to this 'docking' station we are all born with and how to connect with that for improved feelings of connectedness. There is a strong sense of misanthrope there that impedes feeling connected to humanity as a whole.

[@danieltjaraujo]

It seems another positive psycology speeach, that in my opinion, is for privileged mid class western chrystian people with relatively stable lifes trying to get a sense in life to keep working. Does not work for extremmely poor people, that are just trying not to dye, or extremmely rich people, that can make their own reality.

[@charleslungu5148]

Thank you for sharing ❤️❤️❤️

[@russelsurya9296]

Gojo Satoru has overcome this problem by destroying the part of the brain that is connected to burnout and heal it with RCT. Pretty neat but only he can do it.

[@hemanjalimary4812]

Indeed Christianity commands love for neighbours as you love yourself...

[@aarrvindmbd1974]

"Mindfulness is powerful but keep religion out of it" Sam Harris

[@kastenolsen9577]

Being spiritual and not religious is freedom! Religion is the control through dogma and ritual. Be righteous and serve others and you will find others will serve you.

[@AstroAri504]

There should be studies on what happens when spirituality, jobs, and freedom is stripped away in hopes that someone has a nervous break. If you have a nervous break, you won't be any use to the Science community and they won't look into how you got framed and why you live in the street. I call it, when the scapegoat gets away. Could bring a whole city to its knees.

[@andreadiaz6630]

ALTRUISM 👏🏻

[@ghazanfarabbas4536]

Worked 80 hours last week, praying as muslim to Allah helps.

[@Mackcolak-xf5bk]

"we are part of one field of life, one sacred consciousness" - what does that even mean?

[@potrebitel3]

I like the clarification Sam Harris makes (e.g., in his books) on what it means to be awaken or spiritual. As most of the religious approaches contradicts both.

[@Faz_Plays]

This video upsets me. It's not the goal setting that makes us depressed. It's the fact that we all can see the atrocities of the world first hand now. We are all connected and can see the problems in all parts of the world that were blind to us before. Combine that with the increase in the economic divide (CEOs getting literally thousands of times more wealth than their average employees), the constant corruption in our leaders, and the fact that we just went through a pandemic, people are going to be pretty depressed. Spirituality is an excuse to stick your head in the sand and pretend like nothing is happening. Ignorance is bliss I guess...

[@scoodler]

"We are addicted to goals. We don't even see it. Our lives are about extending goals and achieving it, to the expense of being in relationships." If two of those main goals you are describing includes keeping a roof over your head and food on the table, I would agree with you, but I have to say, most Americans and people in general right now, are not living the life seen in the video wearing expensive suits in high rise buildings and traveling on jet planes. Most people are not as money driven as all that. We're just trying to get by, but the current economy requires working constantly. You can't fix the problem with spiritual beliefs if we don't address the extreme economic disparity that has been going on for the past few decades and has worsened over the last ten years with extreme inflation.

[@toyotaprius79]

Revive a blocked or polluted well Plant trees for a watershed

[@kastenolsen9577]

The only goal worth having is to live the best life and help others!!!

[@lvjungle2840]

I think ALL CEO needs to take this type of class, care so much about profit after profit, no matter how much they make or brake record. Will never going to be content and happy. At the end it’s about paying people fair wage, helping community and give back as much as they get 😊. If they all die tomorrow, no one cares so why not do stuff to community that can change their life in a way

[@Darwin_is_my_copilot]

Sounds promising so long as "awakening" doesn't result in relying on the superstitious. We need to move past that as a species already.

[@az55544]

Right? Let's keep it scientific and individual this time around and learn from the errors of spiritual power mongers.

[@toyotaprius79]

Decolonise you mind. Would you know that so much of what Science is learning in the last 20 years about interconnected ecology in the land is actually the exact knowledge that indigenous people have known for thousands of years preserved in their culture? Knowledge that has helped generations survive with the regenerative boundaries of nature. So enough of that supremacist superstitious analiscous crap outta you

[@toyotaprius79]

​@@az55544speak for yourself, literally

[@DearProfessorRF]

Awakening is simply a state of realization, a new state of awareness. But at a spiritual level is what we buddhist would call enlightenment.

[@MicahScottPnD]

Lisa, im quite sure you and I could have quite a fun and fruitful discussion about spirituality. I don't foresee that happening, but if it does, i shall fully embrace it 😊

[@Mackcolak-xf5bk]

"Scientists can not define spirituality"... "I study the science on spirituality"

[@toyotaprius79]

They're not allowed because it puts their career at risk. Such as studying indigenous spirituality and culture, which is connects to geology, biology, astronomy, anthropology, all academic fields that are separated and never enough funding

[@mabi9731]

This videos comes at a perfect time.

[@AnonymousWon-uu5yn]

Recently I lost respect for myself and others and that has made it extremely difficult to have fun because I don't care about things like I used to. And now I'm just an unwanted burden to myself and others. Please help prevent suffering, become an antinatalist.

[@Cryptic_Chai]

Astonishing how people in the comments have degraded processing capacities that they are misinterpreting this simple video or giving their own version of explaination / conclusion in order to satisfy their ego that has been directly attacked by this very video.

[@ShakraShakra]

Ok this is great and I think the points made were great- but, the gigantic plot hole, if you will, is that people still have to engage in the "grindset" just to SURVIVE. The corrupt institutions all across the world have literally enslaved the majority of humanity so that they don't even have the ability or time to engage in their spirituality. Things are more expensive and progress and profit never go back to the common person. This video may be great for someone who doesn't have to work for a living, which is barely anyone, so I'm genuinely confused as to why they framed this as some sort of fix to the grindset- there genuinely needs to be a revolution of the common people to take back what's ours so we can experience community, spirituality, wealth and health once again, because there is far too much in far too little (and greedy) hands.

[@ariyowalker2968]

This is dangerous for mental health. Life is not a journey or a path. To some, that can be considered autistic thinking, a narrowing of the mind to paths and journeys (detaching from the larger scope of our life). Life is a space of possibilities, and in that space of possibilities, we have life priorities that work like buckets. Once your life is a purpose, a path, or journey, your life’s space of possibilities shrinks and narrows to wrap around them. Think about a car. A full tank of gas can gives you a radius of around 400+ miles all around you. You have a space of so many possibilities to where you can travel with that car. Once that car has a purpose, such as only going back and forth to a work location, has a path to travel on, or has a specific journey to stay on, then that space of possibilities disappears to a narrow focus, taking away your freedom. Though life is not a dead car, we do have a space of possibilities with life. In that space of possibilities, we have to (1) prevent our life from getting worse, (2) take care of life priorities that maintain our life and keep it from falling apart (keep it stable), (3) when we have space, time, and resources open up, we can add to our life and grow it, and (4) be vigilant at watching the problems others face in life so that we can change our lives so that we don't ruin our lives like others. Once we get our life priorities done, we have play time in our space of possibilities where we can enjoy experiences, develop hobbies, have fun, and do things with others, using a space of possibilities 😉😉 , that others minds have never... experienced... before... Ohhh-h-h-h YeaaaaAAAaaahhhh! 😋… Life is beautiful!

[@franciscocampos7197]

Lars von Trier should make a film about these ideas...

[@soubhagyaranjanswain5514]

Profound

[@JamesG2fo7]

In short, the bible has always been the truth! Forgive us father!🙏✌❤

[@petermoxham]

Wonderful ❤

[@alexandraovcharova]

Powerful ❤

[@mato7773]

Thank you for this content, this helps some of us realise the true power of our innate being on a scientific level, thank you again, keep up 👍❤️

I loved the correlation of spirituality and altruism. Makes so much sense and it is beautiful.❤