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Buy Trouble right now! amzn.to/2ETc83O It's one of the most controversial stories Marvel has ever produced! When friends May and Mary take on a summer job after high school, they meet brothers Ben and Richard--and summer lovin' ensues! Prepare for sand, sun...and lots of sex! High drama, infidelity and a pregancy! Innovative work by Mark Millar and Terry Dodson! Never miss an update by subscribing! bit.ly/2WYvgkt #spiderman
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@GitShiddy
@GitShiddy 3 жыл бұрын
Kudos to Sal for being able to bury the lede for the entirety of this episode. Seeing Ben & Ethan get so close to figuring it out and whiffing it was hilarious.
@dekkitout
@dekkitout 3 жыл бұрын
This story started on ABC Family, moved to The CW, and then switched lanes to Lifetime...
@kronemerj
@kronemerj 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know why this makes sense but it does.
@idongesitusen5764
@idongesitusen5764 4 ай бұрын
That says a lot about Millar’s thought process for this imo.
@n00bextraordinaire92
@n00bextraordinaire92 3 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard when Sal winked. "They don't know yet."
@AnarchicArachnid
@AnarchicArachnid 3 жыл бұрын
saved by the bell
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ 3 жыл бұрын
When does he wink?
@JetZV
@JetZV 3 жыл бұрын
@@HOTD108_ The moment is 30:33. And 55:13 is the name reveal.
@Ohmargod
@Ohmargod 3 жыл бұрын
It felt like old Back Issues when Ben and Ethan didn't know anything about comics.
@Jay_D_Generate
@Jay_D_Generate 3 жыл бұрын
What Peter failed to understand is the iconic with great power comes great responsibility speech Uncle Ben gave was actually a sex talk and he was referring to the importance of condoms. 😂
@nerdking1019
@nerdking1019 3 жыл бұрын
This would be a retcon! Ben was talking about some random shit
@morganrobinson8042
@morganrobinson8042 2 жыл бұрын
He was bleeding out. A lack of topical focus does track with that.
@TupocalypseShakur
@TupocalypseShakur 2 жыл бұрын
@@morganrobinson8042 Peter wasn't there when Ben died
@dante_0962
@dante_0962 6 ай бұрын
@@TupocalypseShakurand why he think of that moment?
@NerdGeniusSNES
@NerdGeniusSNES Ай бұрын
Uncle Ben wasn't even the one who sayed that quote.
@toqkaizogou1636
@toqkaizogou1636 3 жыл бұрын
I think Linkara put it best saying that the Bucky Barnes cameo in the last issue was Marvel basically saying "WE'RE SORRY! IT'S NOT CANON!". Like they originally were going to make it canon to 616, but then in the last couple of issues realised what a mistake they were making, so quickly popped in this undeniable contradiction just so they could say it wasn't.
@fearloathingingeneral2877
@fearloathingingeneral2877 3 жыл бұрын
Me: walks in, removes hat Sal: "MARVILLE was..." Me: puts on hat, walks out
@NilFox
@NilFox 3 жыл бұрын
It's literally that Squidward meme
@thomasfredrickson6298
@thomasfredrickson6298 3 жыл бұрын
@@NilFox I think the joke also refers to the Simpsons one where Bart worked the burlesque house and Grandpa comes in whistling and takes off his hat and is about to enter the lounge area, only to see Bart at the front and immediately takes a U-turn to the door he just came from.
@stevenguitink5947
@stevenguitink5947 3 жыл бұрын
Is your name Bart?
@fearloathingingeneral2877
@fearloathingingeneral2877 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasfredrickson6298 you GOT IT!
@fearloathingingeneral2877
@fearloathingingeneral2877 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenguitink5947 LMFAO
@jermox
@jermox 3 жыл бұрын
30:34 Ah man, that wink was great.
@AnarchicArachnid
@AnarchicArachnid 3 жыл бұрын
literally some mid 90s sitcom "wink"
@AzCrX2
@AzCrX2 3 жыл бұрын
When you know Sal knows and then there is that wink. Hahaha great detail.
@owendean907
@owendean907 3 жыл бұрын
Marvel: it's not peodophilia, the photographers french
@donb7519
@donb7519 3 жыл бұрын
thats netflix now with cutie
@donb7519
@donb7519 3 жыл бұрын
@@aaronbood1999 no no its ok cause the movie tries to criticize child sexualization
@idongesitusen5764
@idongesitusen5764 3 жыл бұрын
I think that's the kind of excuse some animation companies used to get anime over to the U.S. in the old days.
@jayjayx5x1
@jayjayx5x1 3 жыл бұрын
Netflix: hold my dignity *cuties* Everyone: what dignity?
@rewrose2838
@rewrose2838 3 жыл бұрын
What part of the video is that a reference to?
@benchrobakprince
@benchrobakprince 3 жыл бұрын
"One time I got kidnapped in the Dominican Republic" I'm sorry WHAT
@90johnmorrison
@90johnmorrison 3 жыл бұрын
you know, as one does
@radicalraddish6292
@radicalraddish6292 3 жыл бұрын
This is why you don't leave the resort
@stanleyzapata
@stanleyzapata 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from the DR and I was kind of shocked that's one of the craziest things I've heard
@diegoyerse593
@diegoyerse593 3 жыл бұрын
eh it happens. He looks fine. Probably set him back 100 bucks or a couple thousand pesos. Or nothing maybe they were cool kidnappers.
@paulofernandesroberto9336
@paulofernandesroberto9336 3 жыл бұрын
This thread is gold, man... 🤣
@kurtpryor6334
@kurtpryor6334 3 жыл бұрын
Heard there are two brothers named Richard and Ben and immediately thought "This won't end well."
@DGuptaCassidy
@DGuptaCassidy 3 жыл бұрын
You can almost see the shovel that Sal buried the lead with!
@AnarchicArachnid
@AnarchicArachnid 3 жыл бұрын
I'm watching their faces for any hints they're picking up on it
@idongesitusen5764
@idongesitusen5764 3 жыл бұрын
I thought Ethan & Ben would've caught it after the hookups were mentioned- *May & Ben* *Richard & Mary* it's so obvious, you may as well shine a flashlight.
@akap
@akap 3 жыл бұрын
I had a moment like 15 minutes in, when Ben and May and Richard and Mary clicked. Dear god.
@AnarchicArachnid
@AnarchicArachnid 3 жыл бұрын
lmao
@MrEnKaye
@MrEnKaye Жыл бұрын
Man, watching Ben and Ethan get SO CLOSE to realizing who these characters are the ENTIRE episode made my night. You guys are fantastic.
@Manus7100
@Manus7100 3 жыл бұрын
The moment Sal whips out that cover, those faces are the best thing ever
@WannabeWryter
@WannabeWryter 3 жыл бұрын
6:55 wow
@chrisosterhoudt7809
@chrisosterhoudt7809 3 жыл бұрын
True. But watching Ben slowly put everything together was a close second to me.
@nintomdo6472
@nintomdo6472 3 жыл бұрын
“WHAT THE *FUCK* IS *THAT* “
@flashtheshapeshafter
@flashtheshapeshafter 4 ай бұрын
*" IT'S CALLED TROUBLE, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT, AND IT'S BAD!"* 😂😂😂
@Shoub-kb9sk
@Shoub-kb9sk 3 жыл бұрын
They did it. They finally did it. I’m so sorry.
@therealmanos
@therealmanos 3 жыл бұрын
Bill Jemas: "We need to appeal to teenage girls more! CALL MARK MILLAR!"
@owendean907
@owendean907 3 жыл бұрын
I know right! Should have got Alan or Frank
@jwm1444
@jwm1444 2 жыл бұрын
Some Intern Who's About to Get Fired: Sir shouldn't we hire a woman to write a book meant to appeal to young women? Bill Jemas then throws him out of a window.
@Tamaki742
@Tamaki742 3 ай бұрын
​@@jwm1444 Or threw a comic book at him.
@Cylyria
@Cylyria 3 жыл бұрын
Another thing to note: May's life has serious parallells to MJ's. Viewed as promiscuous, abusive dad, shirks responsibilities for a long time until growing into being responsible... I've spent a decade and a half avoiding this book because the more I learn, the creepier it sounds with its implications for Peter and aunt May.
@ksolesky2
@ksolesky2 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention his mom being drawn to deliberately invoke Gwen Stacy....
@idongesitusen5764
@idongesitusen5764 Жыл бұрын
Mary Jane had a tough home life, so does this May Reily. May is made to look like MJ. Pete's easily manicured when either is put in peril- coincidence I THINK NOT
@jtverland7224
@jtverland7224 Жыл бұрын
@chandllerburse737 Damn it, Freud!
@pinstripe4254
@pinstripe4254 8 ай бұрын
@chandllerburse737well that’s generally understood to be not true whatsoever, the one who made is Sigmind Freud was basically just like “Hey I’m not weird! Everyone wants to bang their parents!”
@dante_0962
@dante_0962 6 ай бұрын
At least MJ was fun and had a good character.
@ItsOver9000Productions
@ItsOver9000Productions 3 жыл бұрын
I've said it before and I'll say it again, when the book is garbage or Sal hates it, its gonna be a LEGENDARILY hilarious episode.
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ 3 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda new to the channel, would you help a brother out and direct me to some other examples of said legendary episodes?
@ItsOver9000Productions
@ItsOver9000Productions 3 жыл бұрын
@@HOTD108_ One More Day, Clone Saga, All Star Batman and Robin, Daredevil Shadowland, Ghost Rider, Spiderman Reign, Superman Grounded, Daredevil Fall from Grace, Ultimatum, Identity Crisis, theres a few more i cant remember. Thats not to say that good books dont have hilarious moments. Secret Wars 1984, Spiderman Blue, Death and Return, any daredevil episode besides the ones i mentioned. Every Ultimate Spiderman episode is peak back issues. Theres like 300 of them and I've rewatched them all numerous times.
@makisdimakis333
@makisdimakis333 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to ComicPop where bad comics burn.... Sal's gonna teach you all a lesson you ll learn......
@infernaldisdain8051
@infernaldisdain8051 3 жыл бұрын
For me it was torture. I already knew how it was going to end and it's... very disturbing to think that someone thought this was a good idea.
@aisnota5192
@aisnota5192 3 жыл бұрын
Wish there were more of them.
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 3 жыл бұрын
20:26 Ben used the right formula, but got the wrong answer...
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 3 жыл бұрын
"Hey, wait a minute..." That's THAT face.
@lebeaumuni6247
@lebeaumuni6247 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the mute out the other two while we get to focus on ben’s face.
@AnarchicArachnid
@AnarchicArachnid 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just like "oh he almost got it"
@trmahama6447
@trmahama6447 Жыл бұрын
I'm watching this directly after the Marville episode
@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038
@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038 3 жыл бұрын
Don't tell Peter. His guilt complex will never stop spiralling
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ 3 жыл бұрын
"AUNT MAY IN A CHARITY WARD!?!?!?"
@learn2draw716
@learn2draw716 3 жыл бұрын
Why does he have a guilt complex? I thought he stopped feeling sorry for himself after Issue 200
@arw1985
@arw1985 3 жыл бұрын
@@learn2draw716 Because folk keep writing him like that for some reason.
@kingjonstarkgeryan8573
@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 2 жыл бұрын
@@arw1985 you misspelled Quesda
@cipher2016
@cipher2016 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 You misspelled Quesada.
@coyoteink
@coyoteink 3 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to ask Mark Millar, if May gave birth to Peter at 17 why the heck is she 80 when he’s 15?? Is she really in her 40’s? Is she a closet alcoholic and looks 40 YEARS older?
@alexandreturcotte6411
@alexandreturcotte6411 3 жыл бұрын
that could be the MCU Spidey head-cannon ;-)
@yolanda8563
@yolanda8563 3 жыл бұрын
Comic books 🤷‍♂️ lol
@Shaitanic13
@Shaitanic13 3 жыл бұрын
Mark Millar: "Oh, this is an amazing idea! Aunt May was so depressed about her failed marriage with Ben - and she became an alcoholic! I have to write a story..."
@Xtra_Medium
@Xtra_Medium 3 жыл бұрын
Mark Millar: *furiously writing*"This is gonna be my best work since Nemesis!"
@colbartus5273
@colbartus5273 3 жыл бұрын
@@Xtra_Medium Aunt May: Demon in a bottle
@whiskeystone6188
@whiskeystone6188 3 жыл бұрын
Should be noted that “Trouble” was a euphemism for teenage pregnancies back then, so despite everything else, they didn’t bury the lede.
@idongesitusen5764
@idongesitusen5764 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that. Ironically, Millar said that he hoped the story would be helpful to girls going through a situation like that.
@kingjonstarkgeryan8573
@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 2 жыл бұрын
@@idongesitusen5764 freely admit I have never understood women but somehow I doubt they get into drunken orgies 18
2 жыл бұрын
@@idongesitusen5764 honest question: when and where did he say that? I want to see how hes rationalising this.
@theangryholmesian4556
@theangryholmesian4556 2 жыл бұрын
"3 months later I'm a gal in trouble..."
@cherch222
@cherch222 3 жыл бұрын
Me having forgotten the title: “Hmmm, these characters have the same name as Spider-Man’s parents, aunt and uncle.” Me realizing Spider-Man is the product of a weird love square: “......what!?”
@Night221Shadow
@Night221Shadow 3 жыл бұрын
My reaction when I saw the notification for this was “Oooooh noooooo”
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 3 жыл бұрын
Make it happen in the MCU you cowards! 😂😂😂 In all seriousness, seeing the title gave me flashbacks to Linkaras videos on this story.
@JoJoTalksTooMuch
@JoJoTalksTooMuch 3 жыл бұрын
"Let Linkara do that for you" 😲😂
@ChristopherZubin
@ChristopherZubin 3 жыл бұрын
7:56 "No! It"s for research!" great save Sal...
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, "research" huh?
@graveyardbeard9028
@graveyardbeard9028 3 жыл бұрын
The Pete Townshend defense
@zeroligerx
@zeroligerx 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to how to catch a comic predator
@tjjohnson1796
@tjjohnson1796 3 жыл бұрын
The clerk : wtf is wrong with you Sal: it's for research The clerk: research...okay" dials 911 The clerk: yeah police we got another "researcher"
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ 3 жыл бұрын
By "police" you mean the Dominican Republic...
@SpiralSine6
@SpiralSine6 2 жыл бұрын
Little did. Sal know that those Trouble issues are actually sting operation traps
@Qolumbo926
@Qolumbo926 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't clock the "Ben"-"May" "Richard"-"Mary" connection.
@99jmaster
@99jmaster 3 жыл бұрын
I think its because they are pretty normal names and Peter's parents names haven't been brought up often
@baileytollison5877
@baileytollison5877 3 жыл бұрын
They also mention that they don’t talk about Richard and Mary Parker often
@creed8712
@creed8712 3 жыл бұрын
Bailey Tollison but like...Ben and may...in a marvel book
@baileytollison5877
@baileytollison5877 3 жыл бұрын
Creed I mean they did make that connection early on but I think to make the leap in logic like “oh it’s the parkers, oh it’s aunt may, oh no this is a secret origin for the conception of Peter Parker.” Is a lot to ask
@flywheelshyster6549
@flywheelshyster6549 3 жыл бұрын
I forgot the title by the end and just didnt expect it when the shoe dropped
@marioacosta-warren921
@marioacosta-warren921 3 жыл бұрын
I'd heard it be suggested that Trouble takes place in the Ultimate Universe. Not confirmed but Bucky Barnes survives WWII and becomes an old man in both continuities.
@angelofdeathgabriel1610
@angelofdeathgabriel1610 3 жыл бұрын
With how horrible the Ultimate universe can be, I can 100% see this being the case.
@TheWazzoGames
@TheWazzoGames 3 жыл бұрын
Mark Millar also wrote the Ultimates, and Aunt May grew up in the 60's in the Ultimate Universe. Though Peter's father looks a great deal younger than uncle Ben and aunt may in that universe
@john.doe.845
@john.doe.845 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWazzoGames yeah but he also does younger....
@alucardprinceofgayvampires8526
@alucardprinceofgayvampires8526 2 жыл бұрын
I actually wouldn't mind that as much, they do imply ben and may were like chill hippies for awhile
@PatLund
@PatLund Жыл бұрын
It can't be. If Peter was born in the 60s he would be in his 40s when Ultimate Spider-Man takes place.
@FloorTankMain
@FloorTankMain 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not a huge Spider-Man fan, but when they were talking about their names and Ben and Ethan were like “oh so Richard and Mary aren’t anyone” I was like “oh... I thought that was Peter’s parents’ names...” and then Sal’s WINK LMAO THANKS SAL
@dwise23710
@dwise23710 3 жыл бұрын
“Yeah but May was already old!!!” “What?”
@owendean907
@owendean907 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't it weird that May gave up Peter because she didn't want to raise a kid and ends up rasiing the kid she gave away
@mackybell14
@mackybell14 3 жыл бұрын
"It's like poetry it rhymes." - Star Wars Guy
@Shaitanic13
@Shaitanic13 3 жыл бұрын
"You've always been a trouble for me, Peter ..."
@sergioruiz733
@sergioruiz733 3 жыл бұрын
"Let Linkara do that for you." I laughed louder then I should have at that. Edit also Ethan's face at 55:21 lmao
@TheMorlun
@TheMorlun 3 жыл бұрын
Sal, no! There's faster and less painful ways to break friendships!
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ 3 жыл бұрын
Alternate costume 6th Doctor is best Doctor
@rennythespaceguy7285
@rennythespaceguy7285 Жыл бұрын
​@@HOTD108_ Fair point, though worth noting Sixie never had an adorable decapitated cyberman head as his companion
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 3 жыл бұрын
Aunt May: I never did tell you what happened to your mother. Peter Parker: What else is there to say? She died in a plane crash with dad. Aunt May: No... I am your mother. Peter Parker: No... No... That's not true. That's impossible!
@owendean907
@owendean907 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this story was made up as May when Peter threatened to move out
@kronemerj
@kronemerj 3 жыл бұрын
Search this trade paperback you know it to be true
@living8605
@living8605 3 жыл бұрын
Search your feelings Peter, I made you wheatcakes.
@Shaitanic13
@Shaitanic13 3 жыл бұрын
"- But who is my father? - Well, I think it's Richard... Or maybe one of those twelve pocker-guys ..."
@EyeoftheU
@EyeoftheU 2 жыл бұрын
Peter: No, it's quite _literally_ impossible. You said all this stuff happened when you were, what, 18? But you're, like, 40 years older than me.
@spencerainsworth269
@spencerainsworth269 3 жыл бұрын
Sal got kidnapped in the Dominican Republic? Please share more
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ 3 жыл бұрын
When does he say that?
@Misadventures_85
@Misadventures_85 3 жыл бұрын
36:19
@Sqoobthedude
@Sqoobthedude 3 жыл бұрын
I almost think its a reference
@Misadventures_85
@Misadventures_85 3 жыл бұрын
^ If you remember or find it, please share. Jejeje
@owendean907
@owendean907 3 жыл бұрын
It was by Marvels in house French photographer
@protochris5287
@protochris5287 3 жыл бұрын
You know I really think it really says a lot about Sal that not only did he read this comic, but spent money on it, and then went onto the internet where he admitted to such a thing for 87K fans, and then talk about this for over an hour. His is truly a sacrifice we could never understand. May God have mercy on his soul.
@IzzysIssues
@IzzysIssues Жыл бұрын
His deal with Mephisto is finally complete
@Benm701
@Benm701 3 жыл бұрын
"No..... it is for research."
@andreac4757
@andreac4757 3 жыл бұрын
May and Ben’s love story could’ve been a very sweet idea for a comic if the people who did it weren’t so clueless about the genre they tried to tackle
@andreac4757
@andreac4757 3 жыл бұрын
They are Marvel’s Kents after all
@angel7661
@angel7661 3 жыл бұрын
May did tell peter how she and Ben got together in the proper universe.
@andreac4757
@andreac4757 3 жыл бұрын
angel7661 i meant a cute little miniseries, literally what this was supposed to be but good
@lebeaumuni6247
@lebeaumuni6247 3 жыл бұрын
Well sal loves Spider-Man. I’m sure sal will have a glowing endorsement of this story. It’s the secret origin of Peter Paker after all, most Spider-Man recons are great! Nothing to worry about here, I’m sure I’m in for a great time. Uh based on the covers of the book by the French photographer ....uh no I’m sure this will be fine.
@youtubeaccount4970
@youtubeaccount4970 3 жыл бұрын
The whole time I was just screaming "RICHARD AND MARY PARKER! BEN AND MAY PARKER!"
@mcpics4448
@mcpics4448 3 жыл бұрын
This story is nothing but “TROUBLE”
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 3 жыл бұрын
*rimshot*
@flywheelshyster6549
@flywheelshyster6549 3 жыл бұрын
I give up I just wanted to nake a reference joke to the film nothing but trouble but they all sucked! So im writing this instead plus whom other than I even remwmbers tbat atrocity of a film
@ChadCRed
@ChadCRed 3 жыл бұрын
I'm only surprised they held back from somehow including a Black Cat stand-in. Though I guess this now proves Felicia is the best choice because it's the only choice where Peter doesn't secretly wanna bang his mom
@Cubelarooso
@Cubelarooso 3 жыл бұрын
Well, May does currently have white hair.
@TheMorlun
@TheMorlun 3 жыл бұрын
Bucky Barnes' appearance, I think was the last minute decision. Because Bucky did survive WW2 and aged...in Ultimate Universe. I really think Millar just chickened out in the end.
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 3 жыл бұрын
So this is the unofficial retcon of Ultimate Spider-Man. That's just horrible.
@AkiDave
@AkiDave 3 жыл бұрын
“Let Linkara do that for you” 🤣
@alexandreturcotte6411
@alexandreturcotte6411 3 жыл бұрын
Wise words mister :-)
@HollowGolem
@HollowGolem 3 жыл бұрын
I lost it at the second camera wink.
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ 3 жыл бұрын
When does that happen?
@HollowGolem
@HollowGolem 3 жыл бұрын
@@HOTD108_ 30:30 -ish
@evangriffith7234
@evangriffith7234 3 жыл бұрын
This comic book sounds alot like a cross between Dirty Dancing and the American Pie movies. In other words old recycled teen movies in a comic book format. Nothing like those old Romance comics.
@SpiralSine6
@SpiralSine6 2 жыл бұрын
7:00 is still one of my favorite reactions from Ben and Ethan. You get Ethan’s stunned, shocked silence, and Ben’s “What the FUCK is THAT?”
@Ib10.
@Ib10. 3 жыл бұрын
*(LOUD SCREAM OF ANGUISH)* Add this to the list of cursed Spider-Man Stories!: One More Day Sins Past The Clone Saga And Now Trouble 🥶YAAAAY......
@Ib10.
@Ib10. 3 жыл бұрын
Mikhail G, yeah, God Help Us!
@fostertalks2327
@fostertalks2327 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Clone Saga isn't as bad compared to the rest of that list
@toqkaizogou1636
@toqkaizogou1636 3 жыл бұрын
@@fostertalks2327 The Clone Saga can be separated because it *at least* had good stuff spawn from it, and had good ideas involved. The other three were purely bad ideas from the start, nothing could save them and nothing good spawned from them.
@morganrobinson8042
@morganrobinson8042 2 жыл бұрын
@@toqkaizogou1636 The Clone Saga is on there for being bad, and inescapable. The rest are there for being harmful to both the readers and characters, to one extent or another. Of those One More Day is likewise unavoidable, but more saddening. The last two should just never have been allowed to exist.
@ItsMichaelReid
@ItsMichaelReid 3 жыл бұрын
The cover of the Trouble comic looks like it was trying to replicate those Olsen Twins girl books and movies that were very popular at the time but instead came off as creepy.
@Grievousish
@Grievousish 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the thing I needed to improve my morning. Time to laugh at a terrible story
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 3 жыл бұрын
Lol indeed
@captainvimes6079
@captainvimes6079 3 жыл бұрын
Love waking up in quarantine to new episodes!
@afternoonmeshes
@afternoonmeshes 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, Griev
@juk3boxh3r0
@juk3boxh3r0 3 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised that Ben and Ethan didn’t immediately recognize the names 😂
@TheRealZubes
@TheRealZubes 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that Ben and Ethan don't read books outside of GBU!
@donb7519
@donb7519 3 жыл бұрын
i mean they did recognize the names just didnt make the leap to its those may and ben
@jonfedien8637
@jonfedien8637 3 жыл бұрын
I can see the purpose of this story, if written well, aunt May being Peter's mother and always maintaining that distance whilst knowing that Peter is Spiderman could lead to a great story about secrets, but realistically it adds nothing to Spiderman because regardless of who his biological mother is aunt May and Ben are ultimately his parents.
@Sqoobthedude
@Sqoobthedude 3 жыл бұрын
20:27 *kill bill sirens*
@thomasjohnson1885
@thomasjohnson1885 3 жыл бұрын
It sucks that Terry Dodson’s beautiful art that could work for this 60s pin up type romance book is wasted for this gross, vomit inducing story.
@PowerPackers90
@PowerPackers90 3 жыл бұрын
The fact Bucky and Mrs.Grey are named dropped. I was always saw it as Millar got cold feet on this book, and was like "shit i got to get out of this." There Bucky is a living eldery man so its a different universes. Whoa dodged a bullet"
@Deadpoolzilla
@Deadpoolzilla 3 жыл бұрын
Somewhere out there Linkara is laughing at the guy's pain
@SpedeVesku
@SpedeVesku 3 жыл бұрын
Remember that JMS' story where Peter met an old friend of his dad and learned that he was a real stand up guy, with strong morals? Mark Millar clearly didn't.
@owendean907
@owendean907 3 жыл бұрын
Does Mark Miller actually read comics? Because I know he doesn't really read his own
@AnarchicArachnid
@AnarchicArachnid 3 жыл бұрын
this was released in 2003 this actually would be during the JMS run, and depending on when that specific issue was released, trouble may have been written before that issue they mentioned Richard or JMS Wrote that issue IN RESPONSE to trouble
@mrtable2861
@mrtable2861 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, he also forgot that aunt May is supposed to be a super old woman yet according to this, since she gave birth to Peter in her late teens, she should be in her early 40s. Obviously, he didn't quite think this through.
@g-mandacomicfan350
@g-mandacomicfan350 3 жыл бұрын
You know is gonna be good when Sal looks utterly defeated, Ben looks like a bird flew off with his hot dog and Ethan is staring at the camera like he just heard an awful joke.
@DomovoiJr
@DomovoiJr 3 жыл бұрын
I looked at my phone, saw this week's Back Issues thumbnail, and out loud in the middle of my workplace said, "Ooooh, nooooooooo..."
@joefayant6143
@joefayant6143 3 жыл бұрын
The wink Is perfect at 30:34 sal
@Hulkzilla0
@Hulkzilla0 2 жыл бұрын
Also, I think Peter was named after the manager of the resort (The Dean). I think that's pretty interesting, and would have made for a decent character development, but it just barely gets alluded to in a single panel that states The Dean and his wife helped the girls out with the pregnancy.
@benhramiak8781
@benhramiak8781 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the title and started laughing. This is gonna be good
@matty-mattmatt8318
@matty-mattmatt8318 Жыл бұрын
The reactions of the two homies on either side to the cover was amazing
@henriquez199
@henriquez199 3 жыл бұрын
36:20 that better be a tangent! You can’t throw a bombshell like that and just walk away from it!
@wilbertrobinson205
@wilbertrobinson205 3 жыл бұрын
20:27 the moment Ben realized this story was about Spider-Man's Aunt & Uncle
@kylehinojosa1814
@kylehinojosa1814 2 жыл бұрын
Ben was SO close to figuring it out at 20:30 😂
@TheKingOfRooks
@TheKingOfRooks 10 ай бұрын
55:16 the way their faces just drop right here is so fucking hilarious
@dennisssmith430
@dennisssmith430 3 жыл бұрын
Yooo that Linkara one-liner had me dying 😂😂😂
@NovastarDoughnut
@NovastarDoughnut 4 ай бұрын
What was the timestamp for that?
@jaketylenol
@jaketylenol 3 жыл бұрын
30:30 best Sal wink ever
@jamesc2889
@jamesc2889 3 жыл бұрын
36:19 WAIT WAIT WAIT WHAT
@MrNewguy456
@MrNewguy456 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear Mark Millar talk about this book in retrospect.
@bacsilva
@bacsilva 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think he remembers writing this.
@MrNewguy456
@MrNewguy456 3 жыл бұрын
@@bacsilva like a bad fever dream 😂 not sure of what is real.
@TheWazzoGames
@TheWazzoGames 3 жыл бұрын
@@bacsilva Probably not 😂
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 3 жыл бұрын
According to the triva section on the tv tropes page of “trouble” Mark has gone on the record to say this was one of the worst things he’s ever written. And considering his career and record that's saying a lot. So take that with a grain of salt.
@Iceteague1
@Iceteague1 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for Mar Ville Back Issue episode when that happens because it’s so awful it’s worth a episode!
@idongesitusen5764
@idongesitusen5764 3 жыл бұрын
The show’s over if he covers Marville.
@jtverland7224
@jtverland7224 Жыл бұрын
@@idongesitusen5764 Well, now they did.
@bottlecap7533
@bottlecap7533 Жыл бұрын
Boy do we have news for you
@Danial_Duval
@Danial_Duval 3 жыл бұрын
At first, I was like why are they doing Trouble? But as the video went on it dawned on me: Ben and Ethan don't know the "twist." Well sirs, at first you have my curiosity, now you have my attention. P.S. Good job Sal on that humdrum way to reveal the twist. Really let me feel the pointlessness of that revelation.
@InsanityFor3
@InsanityFor3 3 жыл бұрын
Insanity I have to assume that since they talk about Bucky Barnes being a war photographer, that trouble was intended to be set in the Ultimate Universe. Millar’s already tangential connection to that universe (and setting up Bucky as a war photographer in The Ultimates) makes it even more likely. The timelines would match up better too, since as Ethan pointed out, Aunt May in the regular universe was already old in the 60’s.
@zz2730
@zz2730 3 жыл бұрын
"one time i got kidnapped in the dominican republic" ... I want a Back Issues about that Sal!
@creed8712
@creed8712 3 жыл бұрын
When Sal said Marville had iron man and black panther talk about race i Immediately thought oh this is where the thing where Iron man says the N-Word and black panther basically says “that’s not cool bro” in as uncaring as the wordage implies Also I hope we get a tangent about that time Sal got kidnapped in the Dominican Republic cause I don’t want that to be something that’s never brought up and never explaind
@ridge825
@ridge825 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no 🤦🏻‍♂️
@captainvimes6079
@captainvimes6079 3 жыл бұрын
Or that time Kitty Pryde says it to Stevie Hunter in God Loves Man Kills. Maybe not the same but as a black dude it was still uncomfortable. I guess that was the point tho.
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 3 жыл бұрын
@@captainvimes6079 Thats not the only time she said it. Kitty Pryde in the 80's did not give a fuck. She said N-word two other times.
@rodney2x48
@rodney2x48 3 жыл бұрын
ComiXProvider FTW_02 Tbf, Kitty Pryde said that towards a guy who was calling her a Mutie. Yeah, it’s a fictional slur and it’s not AT ALL the same as an actual slur, but in-universe it makes sense as to why she would use that word towards someone nonchalantly calling her a slur. Like, it’s still very YIKES, but... I kinda get what they were going for.
@creed8712
@creed8712 3 жыл бұрын
Chandler Burse literally Tony is about to say something really bad about black people and then instead of saying that’s untrue T’Challa says “don’t use that word, it would make you look bad”
@TheKingOfRooks
@TheKingOfRooks 10 ай бұрын
All the little hints Sal throws out to hint towards what it really is keep sending me, best one yet is when he says Ben isn't "Spectacular." Lol
@matthewschmitt9805
@matthewschmitt9805 3 жыл бұрын
I was on the edge of a seat the moment I realized Sal was gonna bury the lead and not tell Ben and Ethan about the Spiderman connection until the end and I absolutely loved it!
@caboose3708
@caboose3708 3 жыл бұрын
The look on Ben’s face when he heard Ben and May I thought oh man he figured it out to early! But the best was saved for last when both he and Ethan heard the truth, priceless!!
@williamgazca6641
@williamgazca6641 3 жыл бұрын
"Pool bar" has become the primary goal of my life now...an olympic style high dive..then straight to being fed shrimps one at a time. Thats the life...
@thelastlahofe
@thelastlahofe 3 жыл бұрын
I need sal's kidnap story.
@EliDEVITTSpeaks
@EliDEVITTSpeaks 3 жыл бұрын
We've entered the darkest timeline.
@jamesc2889
@jamesc2889 3 жыл бұрын
Goatees, now
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ 3 жыл бұрын
This is why the multiverse sucks and I'm thankful it probably doesn't exist.
@jamesc2889
@jamesc2889 3 жыл бұрын
Linkara · 12 Years Ago but all we have to so if we’re the darkest timeline is enter the prime one and replace ourselves
@kronemerj
@kronemerj 3 жыл бұрын
We weren't there already?
@EliDEVITTSpeaks
@EliDEVITTSpeaks 3 жыл бұрын
@@kronemerj All Star Batman, Year Two, and Clone Saga were the peak of shitty mainstream comics tho..
@loganshirley9058
@loganshirley9058 3 жыл бұрын
I love the way you unpacked this story. Burying the lede and letting Ben and Ethan work it out (and then pulling it off so seamlessly) is a testament to how hard you work on each episode. I really appreciate how you think about the ways in which the story you tell has to be adapted for first the couch, then us the viewer. 👏👏👏
@kanborne
@kanborne 3 жыл бұрын
My jaw dropped when Sal said Richard and Ben
@ChristopherZubin
@ChristopherZubin 3 жыл бұрын
The infamous "Trouble". I'm pretty sure whenever this book came up before, Sal has only ever said it would never be on the show...so you know we're in for quite a ride.
@oldusernamewasbadlol
@oldusernamewasbadlol 2 ай бұрын
My fingertips gripped the arms of my chair at the 20 minute mark. "Ha ha ha almost like uncle ben ha ha." I died.
@batfreeze56
@batfreeze56 3 жыл бұрын
Listen to Ethan grunt at 10:54 as he grabs the book. He's like, "Aw, Sal, don't make me do this."
@Omar-wq9dz
@Omar-wq9dz 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, first of all, Gwen Stacy and Norman Osborn once had an affair in Sins Past, and now this
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 3 жыл бұрын
Peter Parkers life is a mess.
@NathanielWinkelmann
@NathanielWinkelmann 3 жыл бұрын
I though Trouble came out first.
@captainvimes6079
@captainvimes6079 3 жыл бұрын
They always act like characters arent allowed to get pissed off about anything, if this happened to me I would uppercut the entire earth
@liverusrock6789
@liverusrock6789 3 жыл бұрын
Sal's wink halfway through killed me! LMAO
@peterbparker5524
@peterbparker5524 3 жыл бұрын
20:12 I love the realization there😊
@dariooben9
@dariooben9 3 жыл бұрын
A french photographer, being kidnapped in the Dominican Republic, a comic book about teenage sex in the 60s, Sal burying the lead like a champ, the wink, the reveal... can I go back in time to experience this episode again for the first time?
@dariooben9
@dariooben9 3 жыл бұрын
And let's not forget "Peter wants to bang his mooooom..." --- that was amazing
@DiarrheaIsUnbreakable
@DiarrheaIsUnbreakable 3 жыл бұрын
When I watched Linkara’s review, I was hoping for you guys to cover Trouble as well. Looks like I got my wish!
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ 3 жыл бұрын
DON'T YOU TALK ABOUT ME YOU SON OF A BITCH!
@glassofgas8631
@glassofgas8631 2 жыл бұрын
@@HOTD108_ OH LOOK IT'S LIGHTBRINGER
@theangryholmesian4556
@theangryholmesian4556 2 жыл бұрын
@@glassofgas8631 Y'all still going with that tired old joke? Let it go.
@glassofgas8631
@glassofgas8631 2 жыл бұрын
@@theangryholmesian4556 i still find it funny, so no
@djlionheart2791
@djlionheart2791 3 жыл бұрын
Sal be winking like I’ll save this for later
@Deadpoolio47
@Deadpoolio47 3 жыл бұрын
Remember when Peter was from a simple house in Queens with his aunt and uncle? Now even before he’s born, his aunt is his mother, his dad and aunt/mother were spies for Shield and knew Wolverine and he also has a sister that is actually his half sister instead. The Parkers family tree is looking more like tumble weed at this point.
@Insane-Howl-Cowl
@Insane-Howl-Cowl 3 жыл бұрын
How to know it's a good day? ComicPop posts a Back Issues.
@alexberg4029
@alexberg4029 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that sal didn’t tell them.
@JamesCPotter13
@JamesCPotter13 3 жыл бұрын
I was talking to my brother about which film series did aspects of Spider-Man best, and we were discussing Rosemary Harris as Aunt May. I decided to look her up and found out she has a daughter named Jennifer...who looks like her mom BUT WITH RED HAIR. My immediate thought was “oh Aunt May as a young red he-NO NOT AGAIN!!!!”
@RoboFreakxr8
@RoboFreakxr8 3 жыл бұрын
The reaction to the cover on Ethan and Ben its priceless
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