The Guitars of Napalm Death: Harmony Corruption Suffer The Children

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

Just got confirmation from Mitch that is was a MKIV and the RAT pedal so that's cool. Later on he used a boss turbo distortion then just a straight up recto. Thanks to the Napalm Death facebook group: facebook.com/groups/157867557593854/

[@TheGarageRecordingSC]

It would be cool to hear something like maybe Prong from the Cleansing era, or Helmet from either Meantime or Betty !!!

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

@@TheGarageRecordingSC both are on my radar.

[@TheWayneChannel]

I'd love to know the guitar and bass tone to Terrorizer: World Downfall. That's a mean grinder of an album. My guess is a Rat into a JCM800 2203 and the bass is a gain-cranked Ampeg with some boost and/or compression. Hopefully someone could reveal the secret of that album. Even more fascinating is the album was recorded and mixed in about 8 hours. I know that was recorded around the same time Altars of Madness was recorded;

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

If anyone knows what gear they used let me know. Guitar wise I presume he used the Flying V you see at the end of my playing.

[@EverettDudgeon138]

CIRCLE OF TONE. Jesse I believe used a BC Rich Mockingbird with EMG pickups into a JCM 900.

[@WildChildMcCloud]

@@EverettDudgeon138 Jcm900 amps weren't released until 1990

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Waiting for this one! I wonder if you could experiment with the mic selection or position a bit? The album seems to have more room tone in it, like a condenser back off from the cab a decent amount?

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

Yep good points. I tried that. I even took the back off my cab for micing the back in a big room and not my booth. With the amps I had I was just not getting close freq wise. Plus my pickup is too tight. I threw in the towel and went all fredman technique on its ass. I tried in the past too and failed.

[@FuzzImp]

Also. Cheers to Finn being in the house!

[@alejandromartinezmontes6700]

What is this? A crossover episode?

[@brazilianmegaman258]

Absolutely sick as always Owen. One of the coolest production/gear channels on KZbin by a mile.

[@69vrana]

One of my first concerts was seeing Napalm Death and talking outside the venue with Mitch Harris before the gig :)

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

That's a hell of a first gig!

[@adamr2684]

I would love to see a circle of tone on the band helmet

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

Good shout.

[@elpupogriton]

totally fucking second that! HELMET (anything from Strap It On or Meantime, definitely...)

[@d-humanofficial5255]

Yeah, killer tones especially on the "aftertaste" album

[@archangelofcoffee922]

Eh, do you like Demolition Hammer? I know they did "Tortured Existence" at Morrisound. The drums sounded almost identical to what was on "Harmony Corruption". The somewhat thin/muddy guitar tone too.

[@donsmith5385]

Terrorizer was Jesse Pintado’s 1st time out! It’s amazing!

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

Like he was shot out of a cannon.

[@luckylicks3497]

Dude, you pretty much nailed that tone! Those riffs still have all the energy in them.

[@TheGreatBaronOBeefDip]

I'd love for you to talk about the importance of the Ampeg solid state series of amps a lot of the brutal bands were using, specifically Suffocation. The Ampeg VH and SS series in particular are devastating.

[@plaguelordrapture]

THIS! Never have I heard a tone quite like Suffocation's in Effigy, or Dying Fetus' in Killing On Andrenaline.

[@WildChildMcCloud]

They're great as long as you don't have a 50 watt + tube amp playing along side of it. The tube amp will overpower.

[@10000rambos]

I think the DS-1 tone you did was closer to the harmony corruption than anything. I’m not a fan of that, but the Inside town apart tone was great. I saw them live in 97’ in Cleveland, Ohio and both Jesse and Mitch both used blackface duel recs, maybe triples with the recto cabs, and both of them had emgs (81s I assume) in their guitars. I’m not sure about boost pedals, but regardless- it sounded fucking great.

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

I half suspect they used that or a metalzone. The metalzone got closer than the DS1 but the recto was just way off in general.

[@NateThunder]

@@helixplane1494 If you like Metallica, Lamb of God, and/or Chevelle.. youve heard a MKIV.

[@thefriendlyfinger69]

I also can't stand PRS but love the sound of the first Danzig album.

[@slavesforging5361]

Just wanna say i recently treated myself to a set of Circle of Tone pickups for my BC Rich Bich... and they are fucking amazeballs! put them on a blend pot and i'm effortlessly getting some of the best clean and distorted tones i've ever gotten from any pickup in 20 years of playing guitar. I have different seymour duncans in all my guitars (except this one), so i've tried a lot of pickups. I would say these are the perfect thrash metal pickup. the clarity and musiciality of these pickups is just phenomenally impressive! Thanks OWEN!!!!! and for those that care, they arrived in Denver super quick. less than a week. for a base reference my favorite duncan pickups are the Distortion and Invader. and i play a lot of Megadeth, In Flames, and Alice in Chains style riffage.

[@Xplora213]

More sorcery for Hexmass. Young man, you’re insane. Well done 👍

[@Xplora213]

Just a follow up point. I have no particular love of Napalm Death, but it’s funny how you thought the DS1 sounded like shit, and all these other issues in that section, yet I thought it sounded fine. If you aren’t wedded to a sound, then it is so much easier to be productive. I had a Triaxis etc. I’m really enjoying a Line6 Shuriken with the stock Helix 5150 patch these days. If you can control your sound, so much can sound good, and I actually liked the ‘bad’ versions. Why not? Napalm Death was never supposed to be listenable LOL 😂 Horns up 🤘

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

@@Xplora213 Yep I'm just not a ds1 guy.

[@SEugeniusz]

I don't know much but Napalm Death lived in my town for a while (Wallasey) as I think Bill Steer was too young to move to Brum, so everyone moved here. I think you can see the Napalm House in the BBC's "Heavy Metal Heaven" from the 80s!

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

Yep I remember watching that back in the day.

[@SawWaveSurfer]

Converge. Jane Doe. Can you make that happen? :D

[@countvlogula]

Harmony Corruption was about the time I saw Napalm Death. I couldn't recommend a good salad for Barney in Seattle at that time. I did get to talk with Shane Embury. He said part of the sound he had was playing along with a Moog Taurus Bass pedal. He said it gave a chopper sound. Like a helicopter. I am not sure if that was part of your bass video of Scum. Thought I'd share that with you .

[@waskozoids]

lokkich nijjier! Happy newyear! Luv the sounds and hope for more vids to come>

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

Happy new year to you too!

[@freq9939]

Awesome!! Hey how bout Doom or Death/Doom and Sludge?

[@archangelofcoffee922]

It's those damn drums. I swear, Morrisound drums are IMPOSSIBLE to re-create and that's why I love them. Fun fact: Iced Earth recorded a majority of their 90's work at Morrisound and were close friends with Nocturnus and Death. Power metal that sounded a bit "death metally" at times. The drums for "Burnt Offerings" were a nightmare to work with according to Tom Morris. Jon Schaffer HATES the original production and other things of them album and that's why we got those remasters. I for one, love the original. I would love to see a video for "Night of the Stormrider" or "Burnt Offerings" era.

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

I think it got kinda trendy to hate on morrisound production. Shame.

[@anticop76]

Could not stop laughing after the pic of Fabio and you in the roller coaster. lol. Great edit Owen. The video ruled as well. Horns up 🤘

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

Cheers Sean!

[@Hoscitt]

Welcome back Owen! Gonna enjoy this one 🤘👍

[@hankatstricklandpropane]

Love these videos man, keep grindin'. I loved your coverage on Godflesh, really thinking outside of the box there. One thing I must point out, however, is the overwhelming treble on the guitars in this vid, and it really leaves me scratching my head as to why you didn't go with the Carvin crackle this time around. Thanks man, merry Hexxmas.

[@alrecks619]

Scott Burns basically be like : pull 750Hz back and push around 4KHz forward

[@ZoniaTV]

One of my all-time favorite bands!

[@TheGarageRecordingSC]

Great video brother and I couldn’t agree more about re-thinking what Gear I think is good and what is not good !!! In the last year, I’ve tracked a bunch of guitar, and it’s been really amazing to see how different you can make something sound just by moving the mics 4 inches off the cab, and swapping out different types of mics that maybe aren’t the normal go to mics !!! And of course as you said, the difference a great player can make as opposed to someone who is not !!🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@dingdong6069]

Oooh this brings back memories. First time I saw ND was at Adam & Eve's in Leeds about '87 maybe? Then saw them maybe year after at Queens Hall in Bradford but both of those gigs were the 'FETO' line up and the moshpits back then were just insane! Loved it! I kinda 'got' why they ended up doing Harmony Corruption as suddenly the UK hardcore scene exploded with plenty of ND and Carcass clones materialising seemingly out of nowhere (some good but many just awful) but it's personally my least fave ND era (although I still like it and this vid oc course) as the whole Morrisound / Scott Burns thing just seemed - to me and HUGE amount of fans at the time - a step too far really. It was with the processed drums, death metal vocals and super-scooped guitar tone too - I can't think of a better word - tame. I really like the stuff they've done after The Code Is Red onwards especially Apex Predator but - and I guess its cos I was wide eyed teen back then - nothing will ever beat the absolute lunacy of the Dorian/Steer/Embury/Harris live chaos!

[@promeow1127]

Plz do bolt thrower again and buy that preamp they used I know you said you weren’t gonna buy it because you didn’t have a kahler bridge but plzzz Owen 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 (:

[@jmanitowabi]

Do cannibal corpse’s tone. Emgs into a metal zone setup as a boost into a dual/triple rec.

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

That's on its way.

[@jmanitowabi]

CIRCLE OF TONE. Sweet. I’ll give it a watch and a like for sure. 👍

[@EverettDudgeon138]

J Original lineup used solid state Crate amps with Ibanez guitars with EMG pickups.

[@zanmato86]

The tone on ‘time waits for no slave’ is amazing. Deffo a recto and emg pickups on that

[@clintn6677]

Thanks man. I play suffer the children every few days. Been wondering the tone aspects

[@pinoyako4347]

The best Napalm death album hands down! fuck yeah! love the grooves!! just subs btw!

[@noahtysonhighlonesome8117]

Great video, as always!! Love your channel!

[@timharding6618]

Yes yes yes!! Thank you!! Merry Hexmas!

[@desertedxmind315]

Great video, I like how much effort you put into tracking down the specific gear they used! I would love to see you tackle something from the first two Deicide albums. Also, what do you mean when you're talking about vanilla sausages?

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

It's modern metal music. Everything snapped to a grid, quantized, fake drums, game amps, one guy in charge etc etc. Also it's the coffee shop atmosphere with guitars on KZbin instead of spit and sawdust. Glad you like the vids man.

[@sergiosethss]

Hey man those infos are great good job 👍.. I've tried figure out what kind of effect have onguitars of Diatribe album? Do you know what is that? cheers

[@swordandstone]

Thanks for this video! I'm wondering if theirs any information on guitar picks Mitch or Jesse used. When playing Vision Conquest. I'm experimenting with different gauges and shapes. And found a rounded 1.14mm works best for me, and I know it's personal preference and what works best for the individual player. But It would definitely be cool to know!

[@ianthompson7996]

just logged onto your channel.....lovin it matey. Any idea's on any pedals I could possibly use to put through my Marshall jtm 30 to get sum Napalm flavour......mebe string gauge too, 10/52 on my KH esp and Gibson at the moment. Keep up the great work 💪

[@jefflyon2020]

AWESOME!, love this record, everything about it, always have ,always will. It is so good to hear other people play this kind of amazing form of music. Napalm death epitomized the sound of death metal, THE BEST!...from mentally murdered to mass appeal madness-eats your brain! Fookin killer keep making videos please, Chuffed to hear and see.

[@mandeep3445]

Yes, Mitch responds in facebook if the message is genuine, he has responded to me couple of times. And I am just a fan, not a journalist or an Artist....

[@CharlieWinterTV]

This album has more muffled guitar tone, pretty sure they used EMG 81 and this bass sounds kinda off but overall it's quite there.

[@mattjohn4731]

Hi from USA. ND has become a fav of mine. Not only the pummeling but the lyrics!! Protect Earth, welcome refugees, fuck the war pigs and love people and animals🐖🌍🕉

[@NateThunder]

Great video, as always, Owen. Im a little curious to know if youve played a proper MKIV or MK amp. I have a MKIV Rev A and the range on it is insane. It may not be a straight plug and play, but it can sound like a Fender, Marshall, and my favorite, The MKIIC+. I also loved Pete Loeflers tone growing up and it was big inspiration to buy one.

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

Yep I've owned MK amps. My fav was the mkiii purple stripe. The mkiii had better tone for my style but live they got complaints that the best clean and distortion were not switchable live due to the shared eq etc. So IMO while the Mkiv was more functional live, it lost the vibe and warmth of the previous model. IMO the more options inside an amp, the more it suffers tonally.

[@gerrydaly5409]

One of the best grind/death metal albums ever- Mick Harris drumming is unbelievable on this album. Bass drum has that famous click sound from that era, Scott Burns must have triggered a sample from Mick’s live bass drum and blended it into the mix as it has the exact same sound as other albums he produced. Would love to get hold of Scott Burns drum samples if anyone happens to have them...

[@TheApothecaryAus]

Bro, check out Blood Incantation & Tomb Mold. You'll probably just say it's Gorguts & Immolation though, but that's okay, it's genuinely good and enticing.

[@nicoguarini28]

When you kicked on the DS-1,it almost sounded like the ghost of Chuck from Death and the tone on Scream bloody Gore.

[@riffsnoleads]

I actually thought the DS1 take sounded the closest. The Rat one sounded to mid heavy, to me anyway. Now I guess I am gonna have to experiment.

[@seanc2280]

This is interesting. If you can find Guitar World’s interview with them back in the early 90’s they said what they used in an interview. Any live footage of them playing any songs from Harmony Corruption showed them playing Marshall JCM 900’s with 900 cabinets, various guitars: Charvels, B.C. Rich Mockingbird (Jessie) in a video for “If thee truth be known.” as for pedals I dunno.

[@daveethridge7342]

Just what I needed after a 12 hour long day of being a Mailman.

[@whatwedointheshadows3349]

fenris is that you?

[@sunnohh]

So when is that the locust video going to come out?

[@sebbityseb]

Okay so I love the DS1 tone at 15:35. Call me what you will!

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

Haha. Yeah it's filthy. It's not just the tone for me. It's the feel when I'm playing where I don't hear my attack and nuances etc. So it's a whole experience thing with me.

[@gus26_77]

Their absolute best effort, and one of the best death metal records ever!

[@despew4716]

Coded smears and more uncommon slurs

[@daveethridge7342]

How about a Saint Vitus video?

[@bbtb785]

F@cking great man! That song lifted me out of office ennui.

[@jasonsimmons7479]

Still have my DC-5 to this day. Love it! Wouldn't take any amount of money for it. The gain stage seems so different from most Boogie amps. Just my input. Don't care for the Boogie rectifier amps myself. 👍

[@NateThunder]

Ugh. I had the ability to pick up a DC5 for $550 a few years ago, but I had just bought a MKIV. I love the MKIV, but I love the simplicity of a DC5.

[@jasonsimmons7479]

@@NateThunder good price on that amp.

[@FuzzImp]

Do a Finn collab and it’s the Circle of Punk MBA

[@thechannelforeverything2170]

I'm excited for Venom

[@gvtshorts2024]

Sounds mean as Owen. I lost at "vanilla sausage on a roller coaster"

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

Hehe

[@JMBell]

Always ever thus: where an original appears, vanilla sausage follows.

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

Amen.

[@stephanevanstaen4088]

I loved the carcass one, i do love that one too !!!!!! Next time : Dismember ? Entombed ?

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

I've done both of those in the past. Check out my studio recreation playlist for all the bands I've done. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGjWdZR4l7OYZrs

[@stephanevanstaen4088]

@@CIRCLEOFTONE oops, i will check out !!!!! thanx for all !!!!!

[@AliJr_MetalGames_MetalGuitar]

What happened to your video about Gibson and the endangered woods they used?

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

I took down a few of my videos that I got bored of the comments. I figure I can do a second channel on other issues that don't involve playing etc. It will get uploaded in some shape or form in the future.

[@mooferoo]

Suffer The Children, one of the most epic breakdowns ever in metal. When i watch live videos of it, the band and crowd reaction to that moment gives me goosebumps.

[@wizardtooth666]

Do between the buried and me silent circus or dillinger escape plan calculating infinity

[@turaly0n]

@@CIRCLEOFTONE need some possessed seven churches at some point

[@Doomlord777]

I can vouch that mitch had a rat on the harmoney corruption show as i jumped off that stage about 10 times that night and saw it and thought "cool..i have a rat".sadly i was and still am lacking mitch's talent! Still one of the best shows ive ever been to, we hung out with the band after becouse we had no way of getting home til the morning, they gave us a couple of cans of beer and were super nice guys! R.i.p Jesse

[@denialoflife666]

What were your settings on the ds1

[@MrShitfire420]

Check out Scott hull tones from Pig destroyer .

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

Awesome band live. Blew my balls off.

[@MrShitfire420]

@@CIRCLEOFTONE the terrifer album.

[@brade42069]

From the horse's mouth: Terrifiyer is a Crate Tidalwave amp. A lot of it came to the miking of it. Was likely a graphic in the loop.

[@baphomick]

love it

[@INTOTHEPIT]

Wow I always thought those albums were done with Marshalls and Mesas on the later albums

[@INTOTHEPIT]

Tried and got sort of there 😂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3fdc5-errNsm9E

[@mattmurray517]

I actually much prefer this tone to the album one. It's a bit different, in a fantastic way

[@underpressureman]

dude killer!!!

[@UnearthlyViking]

Hell yes.

[@letournomaks9756]

Speaking of silence is deafning i ´m not quit sur but i Think i can see Mich playing a 12 strings in their video its kinda weird maybe not 12 strings but a lot of strings lol let me know what you think of that🤟☠️🤟

[@tyschuby]

Darkethrone or Emperor makes me think of Christmas and pretty lights! hahah

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

Lol.

[@zanmato86]

My favourite napalm album.

[@amyhelie6061]

A CRATE Les Paul? Where in the hell did you acquire that beast? As far as I knew, CRATE only made some junk guitars.. Can we have some more info on that LP?

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

It's a colab Crate did with Electra. Electra had roots in Japan and made great guitars. I have about 5 to use for different pickups etc. I upgrade tuners, nut and electronics. They are my brand pickups.

[@angrytroll27]

Deicide?

[@HivernaalChannel]

Still love this album !

[@AlistairMaxwell77]

what channel and settings did you use for your single recto ? im kinda struggling with mine....

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

I think you can see in the vid but check my Instagram for my settings via the description links.

[@Scaberino]

Try the first Bathory. That would be interesting!

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

That's on the cards.

[@Scaberino]

@@CIRCLEOFTONE Very wise of you!

[@xplanet2112]

Thanks man, keep your content coming! Let’s beat the vanilla sausage together 🤪

[@Eddboy33]

Hay why do you always pick your bass close to the neck?

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

A lot of bass players have a bad habit of picking and clanking against the pickups. Often pushing the strings onto the pickup which produces a pop etc. Picking closer to the bridge also results in more audible string scrape on the strings.

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

BTW if I need more defenition I pick closer to the bridge.

[@madgangster69]

Morbid angel please

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

Here you go. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5a3hY2maNF6mdE

[@brianb4877]

Hell yeah!

[@deathmetalmachine]

So basically the napalm death thrash era

[@hedonisticmisanthrope]

TYPE O NEGATIVE - LOVE YOU TO DEATH

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

I did one on Type O but I need to do other eras kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZmofqNmr72omc0

[@nicoguarini28]

The rat is probably what Shawn and Jesse used, but when I saw them in 91,Mitch was only using the dirty channel on his old ass Marshall. No pedals except for channel switch pedal.

[@notfbi673]

For fuck sake Matt Pike HIGH ON FIRE Tone please!!!!!!! I think this is my 100th request

[@superalex1988]

Rat pedal huh? Do morbid angel covenant/domination era.

[@johndevitt2164]

bloody amazing album :)

[@hugejobbie]

i wanna call my sound apple core

[@cosmicsman666]

Vanilla sausage lol. My first band was called Toilet slave .

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

So romantic.

[@princeofcupspoc9073]

Is it time for CoT to jump on the Band Maid wagon of domination?

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

I can match the outfits for sure.

[@finlandmetalsquadron3661]

Bodom early era

[@kongandbasses8732]

Nice to see you, Owen, on St. Nikolaus eve, where nasty children not only get a piece of coal instead of chocolate, but also get stuffed into a sack and are carried to St. Nikolaus House, where they have to work all day. The good children on the other hand get chocolate. And maybe some oranges, gingerbread and walnuts. You deserve chocolate. Because you have been a good boy all year.

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

Lol. I'm on Keto diet so chocolate would be a sin.

[@whatwedointheshadows3349]

do bolt thrower and his hero is gone!

[@colelewis9940]

Looking forward to necrophagist, I love engl amps and know Muhammad used them.

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

He is an INSANE player

[@colelewis9940]

@@CIRCLEOFTONE Like mozart for death metal

[@despew4716]

Grind father's = Repulsion

[@hankatstricklandpropane]

17 Chapman fans dislike this video, lol

[@5tnblnkt]

The constant belittling of modern metal from this damn boomer is so offputing i barely can finish the videos.

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

Fuck modern metal. My previous job was a software test tech and most of my vids talk about bleeding edge recording methods. Plus saying Boomer is so last year. Please get a more modern putdown.

[@5tnblnkt]

@@CIRCLEOFTONE I'll find another term if it suits you better, but no term suits you better than boomer. You can't do even one video without complaining about modern metal, you are the dictionary definition of a boomer

[@whssy]

They were better with Bill Steer when they were more punk than metal.